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Isis 'orders female genital mutilation' for women in Mosul

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:10 AM

GEEZER

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Quote:

The UN says militant Islamist group Isis has ordered all women and girls in Mosul, northern Iraq, to undergo female genital mutilation (FGM).

UN official Jacqueline Badcock said the fatwa, or religious edict, applied to females between the ages of 11 and 46.

She said the unprecedented decree issued by the Islamists in control of the city was of grave concern.

Iraq is facing a radical Isis-led Sunni insurgency, with cities in the north-west under militant control.

The ritual cutting of girls' genitals is practised by some African, Middle Eastern and Asian communities in the belief it prepares them for adulthood or marriage.

FGM poses many health risks to women, including severe bleeding, problems urinating, infections, infertility and increased risk of newborn deaths in childbirth.

'Four million'

The UN General Assembly approved a resolution in December 2012 calling for all member states to ban the practice.

The Isis edict could affect nearly four million women and girls in and around the northern Iraqi city of Mosul, the UN warns.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28466434

Hard to find the words to describe how absolutely bat-shit crazy these Islamists are.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:42 AM

JONGSSTRAW


So what. The ungrateful Iraqis are getting what they deserve. They hated Saddam. They hated us more. They wanted their barbaric Sharia, now they got it, so fuck 'em.


Allah said there'd be days like this, there'd be days like this their Allah said.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:49 AM

CHRISISALL


Now now Geeze, it's politically incorrect to judge or label other cultures because of some small differences between theirs and ours.


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Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:13 PM

AURAPTOR

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Isis = actual jihad against women.

But what makes headlines & drives Dem fund raisers here in the USA ? Phonied up ' war on women ' cries & mock indignation towards ' binders full of women ', which actually is an extremely positive & pro woman thing for Romney to have said.

Frelling humans.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:31 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Isis = actual jihad against women.

But what makes headlines & drives Dem fund raisers here in the USA ? Phonied up ' war on women ' cries & mock indignation towards ' binders full of women ', which actually is an extremely positive & pro woman thing for Romney to have said.

Frelling humans.



For crying out loud Rap, do you always have to go there? In this case it shows you as not being able to differentiate between female mutilation and the Democrat Party. Jeezzzz...it just feeds into what the Dems claim about the Republicans. They just don't' get it when it comes to women.


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Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:34 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


There isn't a single news story/human tragedy that Rap can't spin into a partisan talking point.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:01 PM

AURAPTOR

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Just keeping it real. Yo.

My point is to show how shrill & absurd the Left are, for purely political reasons, in the face of true violence & injustice towards women,

They're all silent about the sentencing of women to death , or mutilating them, but raise holy hell about Sandra Fluke or free cintraception.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:05 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Well here's another "partisan" tidbit for ya ...

A year ago ..

BEFORE ISIS occupied Mosul
BEFORE ISIS occupied Fallujah
BEFORE ISIS occupied Tikrit

.. when they were just another group of ragtag ragheads going back and forth between Syria and Iraq, Maliki asked, no begged Obama to bomb ISIS convoys and staging areas with drones and jets. Obama absolutely refused.

So now, the civilian slaughter, the female mutilations, the Christian beheadings, and the systematic destruction of Islamic shrines and mosques are ALL courtesy of Obama.

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2014/07/obama-refused-repeated-requests-since
-august-2013-for-drone-strikes-against-isis
/

http://weaselzippers.us/189488-iraq-asked-u-s-to-bomb-isis-staging-are
as-before-they-took-mosul-obama-said-no
/


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Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:06 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just keeping it real. Yo.

My point is to show how shrill & absurd the Left are, for purely political reasons, in the face of true violence & injustice towards women,

They're all silent about the sentencing of women to death , or mutilating them, but raise holy hell about Sandra Fluke or free cintraception.



It's just as ridicules as a Dem. placing Republicans in the same category as ISIS when it comes to women.


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Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:16 PM

MAL4PREZ


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
My point is to show how shrill & absurd the Left are, for purely political reasons, in the face of true violence & injustice towards women,

They're all silent about the sentencing of women to death , or mutilating them, but raise holy hell about Sandra Fluke or free cintraception.



That's right, ladies of America. No one's cutting your privates off so shut up and be happy that you've got it so good!

Yeah, Rap does have a talent for turning the topic of a thread. Resist, resist!


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Thursday, July 24, 2014 2:14 PM

GEEZER

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Now now Geeze, it's politically incorrect to judge or label other cultures because of some small differences between theirs and ours.




And it takes an asshat like you to make a joke out of it.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 2:57 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by MAL4PREZ:

That's right, ladies of America. No one's cutting your privates off so shut up and be happy that you've got it so good!

Yeah, Rap does have a talent for turning the topic of a thread. Resist, resist!





Not turning the topic in the least. Just a justifiable compare and contrast by showing the reality of the world that is.

I get that you don't like it.

I really do.

But that changes nothing. Dems try to make mole hills into mountains, while ignoring Mt Everest , as it looms directly in front of them.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:26 PM

AGENTROUKA


The story is more than likely fake.

I'm hugely relieved. It seemed absurdly evil, and I'm so glad it's apparently not true.

Also: Bad BBC for posting the headline before fully confirming the story. Geez.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:29 PM

AURAPTOR

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So, ordering Christians to convert, or die, totally believable.

But FGM is a fake story, meant to 'discredit' ISIS.


Because they're not doing a good enough job of that on their own.


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Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:31 PM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
So, ordering Christians to convert, or die, totally believable.

But FGM is a fake story.



BBC is reporting that it's most likely a hoax.

What IS your deal?

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:55 PM

AURAPTOR

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It's not confirmed, but still very believable, based on the practices of the uber religious nut jobs in charge.

I'd not be surprised if they want to implement this, but realize they don't have the ability to fully enforce it - yet.


Give them a few more months. I bet it's not so hoaxy then.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:02 PM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

It's not confirmed, but still very believable, based on the practices of the uber religious nut jobs in charge.

I'd not be surprised if they want to implement this, but realize they don't have the ability to fully enforce it - yet.


Give them a few more months. I bet it's not so hoaxy then.



I'm not saying I don't think they are capable of immense cruelty.

But this story came out of nowhere and it is likely a hoax and we are probably all happier for it.

I do consider it fairly unlikely they would pull that move, though, since it's a cultural rather than a religious practice (i.e. why WOULD they) and it probably would erode the support they do have. Basically, this shit isn't mandated by Islam even in theory, unlike the other crap they so viciously try to enforce.

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Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:32 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
And it takes an asshat like you to make a joke out of it.




"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Funny or crying. But crying won't ever heal. Only funny can do that."

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Friday, July 25, 2014 3:58 AM

AGENTROUKA


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Thank you. It's not out of the realm as you say, but, timing?



I'm no expert on ISIS, Islam or anything important at all.

But I would be highly confused if they did do this. Unlike most of the other stuff they do, this is barely enforceable.

Patrol the streets to see if everyone is praying on time, burn all the cigarettes, destroy historical sites, oppress the religious minorities, viciously punish individual crimes.. all can be done by an occupying force even with minimal local support. All it requires is terrified obedience.

But to widely demand a dangerous (barbaric, horrifying) surgical procedure where it is not widely accepted already, tying up medical resources (in the BEST of conditions) or spelling death and chronic illness for a large number of the population (in the worst circumstances)... that is not easily done by an occupying force.

How would they even verify that without breaking their own tough stance on modesty? How would this not spell huge backlash even from their supporters?


FGM is practiced in places where is has wide cultural support. In spite of some entanglement it is not actually tied to Islam, or demanded in the Koran.

I just really don't see why they would do that. I don't expect them to.

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Friday, July 25, 2014 7:01 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


ISIS Torches 1800-Year-Old Mosul Church After Expelling Christians



Then, matters got worse. From the Daily Beast:

Friday at noon was the deadline for Christian families to meet ISIS’s demands:

Convert to Islam, pay an anachronistic Islamic tax for non-Muslims known as jizya, leave Mosul, or be killed. But the day before the final exodus, Christians were informed jizya was no longer an option. The order came to convert, leave, or die.

On the way out of town last week, the final 1500 families of Mosul's Christian population were reportedly robbed at ISIS checkpoints. And following Friday's deadline, ISIS reportedly set fire to a 1800-year-old church.



http://news.msn.com/world/isis-torches-1800-year-old-mosul-church-afte
r-expelling-christians-1

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Friday, July 25, 2014 9:13 AM

GEEZER

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
And it takes an asshat like you to make a joke out of it.




"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Funny or crying. But crying won't ever heal. Only funny can do that."



If your jokes were actually funny, that might have some currency. Mostly you just belittle other people's pain and suffering.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Friday, July 25, 2014 9:18 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:

If your jokes were actually funny, that might have some currency. Mostly you just belittle other people's pain and suffering.




And that really does fly in the face of his whole Zen Buddhism act, don't it ?

But if you get mad at him, it only shows you're not wise/smart/clever enough to GET his humor, so the fault ultimately lies w/ you, not him.

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Friday, July 25, 2014 12:53 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by AgentRouka:
The story is more than likely fake.

I'm hugely relieved. It seemed absurdly evil, and I'm so glad it's apparently not true.

Also: Bad BBC for posting the headline before fully confirming the story. Geez.



Story About Mandatory Female Genital Mutilation in Iraq May Not Be True
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By Ben Mathis-Lilley

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/07/24/isis_female_genital_
mutilation_in_iraq_maybe_not.html

Quote:


The BBC now looks to be backing off its report.


"
BBC News (World) ? @BBCWorld
Follow

Doubts emerge as to the authenticity of UN claim that Isis is seeking to impose #FGM on women in Mosul, Iraq http://bbc.in/1AbFyhK
9:06 AM - 24 Jul 2014"






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Friday, July 25, 2014 2:28 PM

AURAPTOR

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So the butchering of 1000's by ISIS should be put on the back burner because they're not SO bad as to actually enforce FGM .

Yet.

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Friday, July 25, 2014 2:37 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
So the butchering of 1000's by ISIS should be put on the back burner because they're not SO bad as to actually enforce FGM .

Yet.



I know many like to credit Bushes surge with the change of direction in Iraq, but Al Queda was behind the success of what is know as the spring awakening. The Sunnis had, had enough so they worked with us to kick them out. ISIS is much worse. The same will happen again.


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Friday, July 25, 2014 5:02 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
If your jokes were actually funny, that might have some currency. Mostly you just belittle other people's pain and suffering.

The joke is that you buy into anything that works for you. 4 million women gonna get FGM'd? How long do you think that would take? If they could do a thousand a day it would take 110 years.
Be sensible.

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Friday, July 25, 2014 6:54 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
So the butchering of 1000's by ISIS should be put on the back burner because they're not SO bad as to actually enforce FGM .

Yet.

Yet. Hahahahah, you are such a stupid butthole, you learned NOTHING from my dragging up that Iran Nuke thread you posted. Geezer apparently hasn't either, because this is his version of your gullible partisan bandwagon-hopping.

Notice when I posted the Malaysian airliner thread I didn't just title it as IF I knew what happened & who did it, as you and Geezer would have..."Putin shoots down flight" or some such crap.
Heh, losers.

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Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:17 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!




Quote:

you learned NOTHING...



Never post a thread on ANYTHING unless it's been 100% verified as true and never have an opinion that differs from yours ?

Where's the fun in that ?


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Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:35 AM

GEEZER

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
If your jokes were actually funny, that might have some currency. Mostly you just belittle other people's pain and suffering.

The joke is that you buy into anything that works for you. 4 million women gonna get FGM'd? How long do you think that would take? If they could do a thousand a day it would take 110 years.
Be sensible.



Actually, around 10 years. Your computer probably has a calculator function on it. Give it a try.

How would you feel if you were an Iraqi-American with family left in Mosul? Since it might take a while for your female relatives to be mutilated, or punished for not covering every part of their bodies, or otherwise victimized by the ISIS loonies, would you be okay with folks making jokes about it?




"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Saturday, July 26, 2014 9:37 AM

GEEZER

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Geezer apparently hasn't either, because this is his version of your gullible partisan bandwagon-hopping.



Please go back to the Ukraine threads and run cover for SignyM some more, White Knight.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:22 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
How would you feel if you were an Iraqi-American with family left in Mosul? Since it might take a while for your female relatives to be mutilated, or punished for not covering every part of their bodies, or otherwise victimized by the ISIS loonies, would you be okay with folks making jokes about it?



The problem w/ Chrissy, as with most proggies, is that he can't possibly conceive anyone actually doing stuff like that, so reports of it happening are clearly open to ridicule. Disregarding the map I posted above, where some Muslim controlled countries where FGM is the law have 90% compliance or more, some just have 70%, it's so beyond Chrissy's ability to comprehend that such evil still does exist, outside of the GOP, he simply will not accept it. He'll mock and ridicule anyone who dares to suggest otherwise though.

It's not hard to imagine that the higher ups of ISIS , if asked, would be in full favor of such a new law, but understand the list of priorities they face in trying to set up a new Islamic caliphate. So it may not be a day 1 or even a year 1 thing on their ' to do ' list.

These zealots will saw off heads of 1000's, destroy ancient statues of Buddha, and burn 1800 year old churches. But FGM ? Chrissy is quick to point out THAT story JUST MIGHT be suspect, and point fingers at anyone who is fool enough to even report it.

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Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:04 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
The joke is that you buy into anything that works for you. 4 million women gonna get FGM'd? How long do you think that would take? If they could do a thousand a day it would take 110 years.
Be sensible.



Actually, around 10 years. Your computer probably has a calculator function on it. Give it a try.


Chris - 110 years?
Geezer- 10 years?

Seems you both didn't consider that all the women's own FATHERS, UNCLES, HUSBANDS, and BROTHERS will eagerly participate and facilitate the process. Wouldn't even take 10 HOURS, unless they gang rape their female property first. Then it might take a bit longer.

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Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Isis = actual jihad against women.

But what makes headlines & drives Dem fund raisers here in the USA ? Phonied up ' war on women ' cries & mock indignation towards ' binders full of women ', which actually is an extremely positive & pro woman thing for Romney to have said.

Frelling humans.



For crying out loud Rap, do you always have to go there? In this case it shows you as not being able to differentiate between female mutilation and the Democrat Party. Jeezzzz...it just feeds into what the Dems claim about the Republicans. They just don't' get it when it comes to women.


For crying out loud libtard, do you really have to go there? In this case it shows you as not being able to differentiate between a real war on women, supported by Obamination and Democraps, and a fake war on women, which is further propaganda from the Democrap Party. Are you just a whore for the libtards and their parties, or what?

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Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:47 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
The joke is that you buy into anything that works for you. 4 million women gonna get FGM'd? How long do you think that would take? If they could do a thousand a day it would take 110 years.
Be sensible.



Actually, around 10 years. Your computer probably has a calculator function on it. Give it a try.


Chris - 110 years?
Geezer- 10 years?

Seems you both didn't consider that all the women's own FATHERS, UNCLES, HUSBANDS, and BROTHERS will eagerly participate and facilitate the process. Wouldn't even take 10 HOURS, unless they gang rape their female property first. Then it might take a bit longer.


They don't seem like the 10 hour types. Even gang raping for what, a few minutes for every male relative, the whole thing is done in an hour, and that is likely after they invite every male in the village/tribe to take a turn - but those guys are already spent from their own daughters and sisters. I don't see where 10 hours is even close, except that they might not have enough knives or rusty blades to do every single female at the same time, they might need to schedule a rotation of using the blades. That way, they could also extend the gang raping for a few days - but if all the guys are spent and sleeping, might be a good time to attack, or for the females to exact retaliation.
But hey, maybe Obamination is planning a relief effort to provide supplies of new sharp knifes and scalpels to help out.

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Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:13 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by Geezer:
Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Geezer apparently hasn't either, because this is his version of your gullible partisan bandwagon-hopping.



Please go back to the Ukraine threads and run cover for SignyM some more, White Knight.

Translation: You're right Chrissy, but I can't exactly say it in those words.

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Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:44 PM

AURAPTOR

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Chrissy and Siggy ,
sittin' in a tree...



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Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:47 PM

CHRISISALL


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Chrissy and Siggy ,
sittin' in a tree...


...slappin' the dumb shit
out of thee...

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Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:52 AM

GEEZER

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:


Translation: You're right Chrissy, but I can't exactly say it in those words.


Nope. your opinion is a wrong as your math.


"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

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Sunday, July 27, 2014 9:53 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, all I can say is... Saudi Arabia armed ISIS. But instead of calling Saudi Arabia a terrorist sponsor (which is has been for 40 years) the NSA helps the Royal Family quash dissent.

YIPPEE FOR US! Enslaving women everywhere!

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Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:04 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, all I can say is... Saudi Arabia armed ISIS. But instead of calling Saudi Arabia a terrorist sponsor (which is has been for 40 years) the NSA helps the Royal Family quash dissent.

YIPPEE FOR US! Enslaving women everywhere!

When it come to denouncing or approving abuses, it really does matter what we're getting out of it.

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Sunday, July 27, 2014 12:41 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Chrissy and Siggy ,
sittin' in a tree...


...slappin' the dumb shit
out of thee...




Oh, now we see the violence inherent in the system !!

No so Zen after all, are we?

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Sunday, July 27, 2014 12:47 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, all I can say is... Saudi Arabia armed ISIS. But instead of calling Saudi Arabia a terrorist sponsor (which is has been for 40 years) the NSA helps the Royal Family quash dissent.

YIPPEE FOR US! Enslaving women everywhere!



What's your problem? They have food and free education. Their standard of living is pretty high in terms of the Middle East. Why would the women want equal rights, they have free medical?

There is absolutely no symmetry in yours posts at all.

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Wednesday, July 30, 2014 6:45 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, all I can say is... Saudi Arabia armed ISIS. But instead of calling Saudi Arabia a terrorist sponsor (which is has been for 40 years) the NSA helps the Royal Family quash dissent.

YIPPEE FOR US! Enslaving women everywhere!


News alert: Obamination was elected 6 years ago! Yes, he has been supporting the enslavement of women property everywhere, as is the Democrap mantra.

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Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:59 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, all I can say is... Saudi Arabia armed ISIS. But instead of calling Saudi Arabia a terrorist sponsor (which is has been for 40 years) the NSA helps the Royal Family quash dissent.

YIPPEE FOR US! Enslaving women everywhere!



What's your problem? They have food and free education. Their standard of living is pretty high in terms of the Middle East. Why would the women want equal rights, they have free medical?

There is absolutely no symmetry in yours posts at all.


Yeah, just think how great it would be if American women wanted to go back to being property and not having the responsibility of voting - we would never have been saddled with Carter, Clinton, or Obamination -- our worst 3 Presidents in history.

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Sunday, December 4, 2022 11:51 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


The Taliban and Isis are in a battle for control

https://spectator.com.au/2022/12/war-of-ideas/

I’m furious that my parents had me circumcised as a child

https://www.thesun.co.uk/dear-deidre/20396889/furious-parents-had-me-c
ircumcised-as-a-child
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