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Enterovirus 68 - One of the hidden surprises in Obama's open border policy ?

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Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:43 AM

AURAPTOR

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What is Enterovirus 68, the mysterious illness that may be sickening hundreds of children?


Health officials in at least 10 states have reported hundreds of cases of a respiratory illness that has sent scores of children to emergency rooms and, in some cases, even to intensive care units.

The culprit is believed to be Enterovirus 68 (also known as EVD-68 or Eentrovirus D68), a fairly rare viral infection that can cause symptoms such as coughing, wheezing and low blood oxygen levels (also known as hypoxemia). In some cases, however, the symptoms can be severe — particularly for children who already suffer from asthma or other respiratory problems.

Jennifer Cornejo of Colorado told Denver's ABC affiliate that her 13-year-old son, William, had cold symptoms that developed overnight into a life-threatening illness. "He was in really bad shape," she told the station. "He came really close to death. He was unconscious at our house and white as a ghost with blue lips — he just passed out."

Here is how William Cornejo described it: "My head started hurting. And after that my lungs started closing up. It felt different."

Until recently, Enterovirus 68 was only thought to cause sporadic infections, but there have been reports of more widespread outbreaks in Georgia, Pennsylvania and Arizona between 2008 and 2010.

Only Missouri and Illinois have confirmed cases of EV-D68, but cases with similar symptoms have been reported in Colorado, Georgia, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, Ohio and Oklahoma as well.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2014/09/08/what-i
s-enterovirus-68-the-mysterious-illness-that-is-sickening-hundreds-of-children

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Friday, October 10, 2014 8:18 PM

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4-year-old’s death in September was caused by Enterovirus 68, which is sweeping U.S.

Since August, the virus has hit nearly 600 people, most of them children, across 43 states and District of Columbia, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Four others who died were infected with the disease, but it’s not clear what role it played in their deaths. Eli’s pink eye was unrelated.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/07/4-year-ol
ds-death-in-september-was-caused-by-enterovirus-68-which-is-sweeping-country
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Gee, when did the Obama administration start relocating 1000's of illegals coming in from south of the border ??

huh.

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Friday, October 10, 2014 9:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Apparently the border Obama should have closed was the one between California and the rest of the country, in 1962:



http://www.decodedscience.com/hev-68/43151

68: Where Did The Polio-like Enterovirus Come From?

March 3, 2014 by Janelle Vaesa, MPH

Parents in California and around the United States are on high alert over the news of children being paralyzed by a virus. The symptoms range from mild illness to polio-like symptoms.

To date there have been 20 cases, with five of the children paralyzed; no recovery evident. While researchers and medical professionals are trying to figure out the exact cause, many experts believe that an enterovirus could be responsible for this illness.

History and Background of the Eneterovirus 68

A California lab first discovered this strain of enterovirus in 1962 after four children developed a severe respiratory illness. Between 1970 and 2005, there were only 26 reports of enterovirus 68 to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Since the year 2000, officials have placed a closer watch on this virus, and there have been 47 cases.

The enterovirus in general typically peaks during the summer months during July, August, and September, causing cold symptoms. Fever, headache, runny nose, cough, skin rash, and body aches are common symptoms of people who have one of the mild strains of the enterovirus.
Enterovirus 71

In 1969, the same California lab discovered another strain of the enterovirus; enterovirus 71. Enterovirus 71 is more common than enterovirus 68 and according to CNN, health officials are more concerned about enterovirus 71, as it is associated with severe neurological problems.

Neurological problems include aseptic meningitis, paralysis, and encephalitis (swelling in the brain). According to the CDC, there were several outbreaks of paralysis due to enterovirus 71 in Europe during the 1960's and 1970's. Here in the United States, enterovirus wasn’t reported to the National Enterovirus Surveillance System (NESS) until 1983 – between then and 2005, there were 270 reported cases of enterovirus 71.

In a study entitled, “Antigenic Diversity of Enteroviruses Associated with Nonpolio Acute Flaccid Paralysis, India, 2007–2009” researchers discovered that enterovirus 71 was the most prevalent cause among non-polio paralysis, followed by enterovirus 13, and then the coxsackievirus B5. Researchers commented that the challenging part is with a wide range of serotypes that stem from the enterovirus, this makes a “challenging problem” as they try to develop anti-enteroviral strategies.




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Friday, October 10, 2014 9:48 PM

ELVISCHRIST


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Ssshhhhhhh!!! You'll just confuse him if you start using facts!

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Friday, October 10, 2014 9:57 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


You know what I don't understand? It takes SO LITTLE to find out basic information. Rappy is pissing his pants about Obama because of something discovered in 1962, rapSF is pissing his pants about supposed Ebola cases that tested out negative nearly a week ago --- really? REALLY?

They have the internet and can't run a basic search to check out if these things are even remotely valid?

It's mind boggling.




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Friday, October 10, 2014 9:58 PM

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Since August, the virus has hit nearly 600 people, most of them children, across 43 states and District of Columbia , according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.




Yeah. Facts.


You can ignore reality and continue parroting the administration's line all day long. No one is buying it.


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Friday, October 10, 2014 10:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Enterovirus 68 - One of the hidden surprises in Obama's open border policy ?



But the virus has nothing to do with the border or Obama.




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Friday, October 10, 2014 10:19 PM

AURAPTOR

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Cases erupted after Obama's open door policy , and after the administration secretly started shipping illegal immigrants all across the country.


Gibbs Rule # 39

There is no such thing as coincidence.

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Friday, October 10, 2014 10:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


logical fallacies

To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine The American Crisis




Now see EC, this is where rappy goes from being a nitwit to a troll. Because he didn't get the facts he ended up looking stupid. THAT CAN'T BE. So he'll double down on his stupidity just so he can provoke a response. That'll makes him feel in control. No matter how silly and irrelevant he makes reputation.




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Friday, October 10, 2014 11:01 PM

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Friday, October 10, 2014 11:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


See what I mean? He'll do ANYTHING to avoid admitting he was wrong, even though that is the only route to a productive discussion OF THE ACTUAL TOPIC.




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Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:12 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I'll just think out loud here.


The first thing that caught my attention is that polio is also an enterovirus. And polio primarily manifests as a flu-type illness. Could they be related? So of course I googled it. Indeed, polioviruses, Coxsackie A viruses (CA), Coxsackie B viruses (CB), and echoviruses are all related and often overlapping in characteristics in a large family called enteroviruses. Rhinoviruses which cause the common cold also belong to this large family.

So, OK, they're related.

The next thing I was curious about is the timeline and global distribution of outbreaks of the enteroviruses. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3542132/ Worldwide emergence of multiple clades of enterovirus 68

This paper was published in 2012 and says "Over the past 3 years, however, outbreaks in Japan, the Philippines and the Netherlands, as well as several clusters in the USA, have implicated EV-D68 as an emerging respiratory pathogen." So their history of global outbreaks goes back to 2009.

But the outbreaks belong to different 'clades' - groups that resemble each other more closely than they resemble other versions of the virus. So these outbreaks aren't due to a single source rapidly spreading through the population, they're due to pockets of particular viral strains that have become simultaneously activated around the globe. "Our analysis indicates that several recently emerged distinct clades are circulating globally."

These variations or clades all relate to the original sample from California in 1962. "Based on the data currently available, the USA appears to have been a source for much of the EV-D68 diversity that we have sampled." Between the early 1960s and the mid 1990s, the original virus underwent significant genetic changes. And then "The virus then underwent a large diversification in the mid-1990s that culminated in a division into clades A and C. Not long after this division, the genomes of clade C-type viruses underwent further rearrangements, resulting in an additional 11 nt deletion in the spacer region." Clade A appears to have split "from clades C-B, sometime between 1997 and 2000. ... Clade B appears to have diverged from clade C around 2007."

In terms of global incidence though, the authors note that surveillance has improved dramatically. Analysis of historical samples as well as improved surveillance in the future will help determine if this is truly a new phenomenon, or merely a newly noticed one. "Although there appears to be a global upsurge of EV-D68-associated respiratory disease, we cannot ignore the possibility that this increase merely reflects improved case ascertainment. In previous studies of respiratory disease, EV-D68 may have been misidentified as a rhinovirus, which would lead to underestimation of its prevalence and importance (CDC, 2011)."





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Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:50 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Hey Rap, I didn't get my marching orders from the Administration. Would you mind terribly if I asked you what they were, since you know what those are?

I don't want to be ridiculed and shamed by you if I were to follow the "line" and I don't know what it is? Could you help me out!?


SGG


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Since August, the virus has hit nearly 600 people, most of them children, across 43 states and District of Columbia , according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.




Yeah. Facts.


You can ignore reality and continue parroting the administration's line all day long. No one is buying it.



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Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:58 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


It's no use Kiki, Fox and friends have spoken. The Ultra-Right's new attack policy is "Everything is Obama's fault."

Solar flares - Obama's fault
A Beached Whale - Obama's fault
Shark attack - you guessed it!
Ebola - The president
Enterovirus - well, since the president was born in 1961..........he had a whole year to plan this one, so obviously it's his fault

See you can't escape that logic!!!

Everything's coming up Obama! (sang to the tune Everything's Coming Up Roses)


SGG


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Enterovirus 68 - One of the hidden surprises in Obama's open border policy ?



But the virus has nothing to do with the border or Obama.




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Sunday, October 12, 2014 10:28 AM

ELVISCHRIST


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Cases erupted after Obama's open door policy , and after the administration secretly started shipping illegal immigrants all across the country.


Gibbs Rule # 39

There is no such thing as coincidence.




Post hoc, ergo propter hoc - After the fact, therefore because of the fact.


You've shown no causal link and no evidence. You're as rational as a flat-earther on this subject, as well as a host of others.

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Sunday, October 12, 2014 10:44 AM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
It's no use Kiki, Fox and friends have spoken. The Ultra-Right's new attack policy is "Everything is Obama's fault."



I guess those deaths from Enterovirus 68 are actually just FOX NEWS propaganda, huh ?

Obama let ( invited ) 1000's of unscreened illegals across the border, then scurried them all over the country, so as to avoid any bad press ( hell, even members of Congress weren't allowed to see the illegals ), and lo and behold, an epidemic just HAPPENS to start spreading, in every part of the country.


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Sunday, October 12, 2014 5:46 PM

ELVISCHRIST


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
It's no use Kiki, Fox and friends have spoken. The Ultra-Right's new attack policy is "Everything is Obama's fault."



I guess those deaths from Enterovirus 68 are actually just FOX NEWS propaganda, huh ?

Obama let ( invited ) 1000's of unscreened illegals across the border, then scurried them all over the country, so as to avoid any bad press ( hell, even members of Congress weren't allowed to see the illegals ), and lo and behold, an epidemic just HAPPENS to start spreading, in every part of the country.





Post hoc, ergo propter hoc - After the fact, therefore because of the fact.


You've shown no causal link and no evidence. You're as rational as a flat-earther on this subject, as well as a host of others.

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Sunday, October 12, 2014 7:07 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
It's no use Kiki, Fox and friends have spoken. The Ultra-Right's new attack policy is "Everything is Obama's fault."

Solar flares - Obama's fault
A Beached Whale - Obama's fault
Shark attack - you guessed it!
Ebola - The president
Enterovirus - well, since the president was born in 1961..........he had a whole year to plan this one, so obviously it's his fault

See you can't escape that logic!!!

Everything's coming up Obama! (sang to the tune Everything's Coming Up Roses)


SGG





Yeah, I've picked this up as well. Ludicrous.

I wonder what solutions the Anti Obamaites suggest. Close all airports? Build a Korean style wall between US and Mexico.

Speaking of which, saw a great film recently. Monsters. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mreply.aspx?q=y&mid=986049

Didn't get any publicity here at all, but was actually a fairly low budget film, well put together and clever, sparse use of CGI for brilliant effect. Some great shots of a massive wall between USA and Mexico. It didn't keep the monsters out either.


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Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:29 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


The funny part? All the problematic strains are FROM THE UNITED STATES! And they spread from the US to the rest of the globe during dumbya's reign. So I guess I can say - BUT BUSH!




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Monday, October 13, 2014 2:01 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


You have received your marching orders, now go forth and spread the news (pardon the pun, couldn't be helped).

No matter what I say, you are convinced that it's Obama's fault. So let it be, I will not debate this further as it will serve no purpose. Here's a funny thought.
Will you guys blame everything bad on Romney when he wins in 2016?

I'm curious!


SGG


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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
It's no use Kiki, Fox and friends have spoken. The Ultra-Right's new attack policy is "Everything is Obama's fault."



I guess those deaths from Enterovirus 68 are actually just FOX NEWS propaganda, huh ?

Obama let ( invited ) 1000's of unscreened illegals across the border, then scurried them all over the country, so as to avoid any bad press ( hell, even members of Congress weren't allowed to see the illegals ), and lo and behold, an epidemic just HAPPENS to start spreading, in every part of the country.



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Monday, October 13, 2014 11:19 AM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
See what I mean? He'll do ANYTHING to avoid admitting he was wrong, even though that is the only route to a productive discussion OF THE ACTUAL TOPIC.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.


And this is news? Rappy is a cowardly piece of shit that deserves nothing but mockery - and has been for the entire decade plus this site has existed.



“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov

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Monday, October 13, 2014 7:26 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
The funny part? All the problematic strains are FROM THE UNITED STATES! And they spread from the US to the rest of the globe during dumbya's reign. So I guess I can say - BUT BUSH!



Maybe if you read the original linked story, and stopped making up shit, you'd not sound so completely stupid.

Naw, I doubt it.

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Monday, October 13, 2014 7:57 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Maybe if YOU read the news story YOU linked, you'd see enterovirus didn't come across the border.

Maybe if you read the study I linked you'd learn something real.

But I suspect both are far, far beyond your comprehension.




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Monday, October 13, 2014 8:18 PM

AURAPTOR

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Origins of the virus from 1962 aren't germane to matter at hand today.

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Monday, October 13, 2014 8:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Enterovirus 68 - One of the hidden surprises in Obama's open border policy ?



Didn't come across the border, 'Einstein'.




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Monday, October 13, 2014 9:12 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Enterovirus 68 - One of the hidden surprises in Obama's open border policy ?



Didn't come across the border, 'Einstein'.



No where in the linked piece does it say where THIS outbreak originated.

California, 50 years ago, which is really really close to ...oh, MEXICO ?

But the fact that it cropped up, all over the US, just after Obama sent illegals where ?

ALL OVER THE US.

Dingbat.

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Monday, October 13, 2014 9:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Hmmm - you know how they can tell where your ancestry is from by doing genetic tests? Well, they did genetic tests of the clades that are causing problems and found they originated in the US in the 1990's. Which is what I posted earlier, in simple, layman's terms. Which you failed to either read or understand. The problematic clades are from the US.

Is THIS post simple enough?




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Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:04 AM

ELVISCHRIST


Today the stock market is at record highs, unemployment is at 6% (which Mitt Romney promised he'd reach by 2016 if he were President), and all of this happened *AFTER* Obama was elected President, so it's all obviously his fault, right?

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Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:07 AM

ELVISCHRIST


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Enterovirus 68 - One of the hidden surprises in Obama's open border policy ?



Didn't come across the border, 'Einstein'.



No where in the linked piece does it say where THIS outbreak originated.

California, 50 years ago, which is really really close to ...oh, MEXICO ?

But the fact that it cropped up, all over the US, just after Obama sent illegals where ?

ALL OVER THE US.

Dingbat.






He's so dumb he doesn't even realize that those "illegals" weren't Mexicans.

He heard some dipshit pose this deep thought on right-wing talk radio, and being the mindless drone he's always been, he couldn't wait to go around and repeat it as if it were fact. It literally never occurred to him to try to subject it to any kind of critical thinking - or any thinking at all.


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Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:22 AM

AURAPTOR

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Never said the illegals were " Mexicans ", did I ?

But unlike YOU, I think for myself. You assume that others, like you, wait patiently for orders to come down from high command, and then react.

What makes talk radio so popular isn't that it mimics the Left wing's M.O. of spewing propaganda to the mindless , obedient, dumb masses, but that we think for ourselves. Folks listen to talk radio because it finally says much of what the Right is ALREADY thinking, instead of the homogenized , processed go-se that so often gets shoveled down our throats by the " MSM ".


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Tuesday, October 14, 2014 12:03 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Today the stock market is at record highs, unemployment is at 6% (which Mitt Romney promised he'd reach by 2016 if he were President), and all of this happened *AFTER* Obama was elected President, so it's all obviously his fault, right?



Thurs - down 336
Friday - down 115
Monday - down 223

Worker participation is down too, which makes the phony unemployment # all that more suspect and discouraging.

yes, it's Obama's fault. Own it.

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Tuesday, October 14, 2014 1:32 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
But unlike YOU, I think for myself.





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“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov

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Tuesday, October 14, 2014 2:21 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Thurs - down 336
Friday - down 115
Monday - down 223

Worker participation is down too, which makes the phony unemployment # all that more suspect and discouraging.

yes, it's Obama's fault. Own it.

When people claim to have an understanding of how a President moves the stock market up or down, what, exactly, would they ever regard as evidence that their understanding is, you know, wrong?

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Tuesday, October 14, 2014 3:35 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
But unlike YOU, I think for myself.





HAHAHAHAHA...




Perfect example of a how a myrmidon from the Left views the world. You can't possibly imagine others thinking independently, so you react in such a childish manner, as is your nature.

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Tuesday, October 14, 2014 11:33 PM

ELVISCHRIST


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Never said the illegals were " Mexicans ", did I ?



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California, 50 years ago, which is really really close to ...oh, MEXICO ?



You fail at thinking for yourself.

Quote:

. Folks listen to talk radio because it finally says much of what the Right is ALREADY thinking...





Look up "confirmation bias."

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Wednesday, October 15, 2014 12:31 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


So the answer to my question I asked you is " NO ", i never did claim the illegals were " Mexicans ".

Thanks.

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Wednesday, October 15, 2014 9:28 AM

ELVISCHRIST




You've also never shown any kind of causal link between "illegals" and the enterovirus.

Thanks for confirming that.

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Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:41 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisChrist:

You've also never shown any kind of causal link between "illegals" and the enterovirus.

Thanks for confirming that.



I guess I'm not the only one who sees the connection.


Quote:



Is CDC Hiding Enterovirus Link To Illegal Alien Kids?



It is true that EV-D68 has been in the U.S. at least since 1962. But according to a study done by doctors from the Division of Viral Diseases at the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases published on the CDC's own website, EV-D68 "is one of the most rarely reported serotypes, with only 26 reports throughout the 36-year study period (1970 through 2006)."

There's often a disconnect between coincidence and correlation. But we suspect that the jump in cases from 26 in 36 years to nearly 700 in one year coming at the same time as the open-border influx of improperly screened illegal aliens is more than just a coincidence.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/101714-722387-enterovirus-out
break-illegal-alien-kids.htm
#





So, that's 26 known cases in over the past 3 1/2 decades, to 700 cases in one year.

Nope. No link there, what so ever.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"But we suspect ..."

And you ASSUME that it's FACT because the EDITORS of an INVESTMENT blog have so much expertise in VIRAL EPIDEMIOLOGY on which to base their OPINION.

How many leaps of logic did it take to create THAT RapFact® ?




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Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:36 PM

AURAPTOR

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Hey Kiki , it's a fact if you jump off a 10 story building into a swimming pool that's 6 feet deep you won't get hurt. Try if & prove me wrong.

I double dog dare you.

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Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:46 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


How very pointless you are.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, October 19, 2014 8:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
How very pointless you are.




Said the pointy headed princess herself.


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Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Anything OT? No, of course not.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Monday, October 20, 2014 3:47 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Okay, you got me. I admit it, Obama created the virus to rid the world of all Republicans. He's the mad scientist in all this and should be drawn and quartered for crimes against humanity.

It couldn't be kept secret any longer.................

I just had to tell the truth.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Origins of the virus from 1962 aren't germane to matter at hand today.


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Monday, October 20, 2014 5:05 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


SGG there are so MANY problems with little rappy's notions it's hard to know where to start. For example - they've only started monitoring for the virus in a major way recently - what if it's been around all this time, causing problems that were misattributed to other viruses? Now the way to check for that is go back and test historical samples - and try to work some statistics magic on the data - but that hasn't been done yet. What if there's a high carrier rate in the US? But, like the possibility above, the testing hasn't been done. What if the illegal immigrants have varieties of the virus (clades) different from the ones causing the problems here? Now, that testing HAS been done, but the news sources rappy credits didn't put that in their story. And I have to say, when I KNOW information was gathered but isn't made available it always makes me wonder what they're hiding.

There are so many ways for rappy to be wrong it's amazing he just plows ahead like he doesn't see the problems. Well, I guess he can't.




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Monday, October 20, 2014 5:37 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Okay, you got me. I admit it, Obama created the virus to rid the world of all Republicans. He's the mad scientist in all this and should be drawn and quartered for crimes against humanity.

It couldn't be kept secret any longer.................

I just had to tell the truth.


SGG





Actually, this is just a byproduct of Obama's incompetence. Of course, allowing the influx of illegals who came here mostly on his invite, Obama's over all goal is to crash the US welfare system, Cloward and Piven style.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy

You see, the particular means aren't really all that matters, when its the bigger objective he's after.

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Sunday, November 2, 2014 1:27 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Obama’s Border Policy Fueled Epidemic, Evidence Shows

NEIL MUNRO
White House Correspondent

The deadly EV-D68 enterovirus epidemic, which struck thousands of kids this fall, was likely propelled through America by President Barack Obama’s decision to allow tens of thousands of Central Americans across the Texas border, according to a growing body of genetic and statistical evidence.

The evidence includes admissions from top health officials that the epidemic included multiple strains of the virus, and that it appeared simultaneously in multiple independent locations.

The question can be settled if federal researchers study the genetic fingerprint of the EV-D68 viruses that first hit kids in Colorado, Missouri and Illinois to see if they are close relatives to the EV-D68 viruses found in Central America.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/31/obamas-border-policy-fueled-epidemic
-evidence-shows
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Sunday, November 2, 2014 3:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine The American Crisis




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:45 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


blah blah blah, RCMP knew him to be mentally ill...


Just shove that head further in the dirt so you don't have to deal w/ reality, precious.

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Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I'm sure you have actual honest to goodness studies that show what you want us all to believe - rather than some jerk-off talking-ass whose poop you shovel into your head like it's information.

I won't be checking back because yanno - I know it doesn't exist.




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