National Shoplifting Day by JO753

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National Shoplifting Day

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Thursday, November 26, 2015 2:27 PM

rezident owtsidr

Plajerized from Daily Kos:

I just watched the Jon Stewart takedown of Fox over their ‘parasitic poor people’ stance and it gave me an idea for a way to even things up a little.

To elaborate on the title — National Shoplifting Day would be 1 day out of the year when ordinary people would be allowed the privilege of unquestioned, open theft enjoyed year-round by the rich. You would only need to show a card provided by the IRS as proof that you earn less than some specific amount, lets say 80,000$ per year, and you could walk into any big box store and fill your shopping cart till the wheels start squealing. The stores would simply ‘write it off’ and the total gets payed in tax by the top 10%.

To keep it from getting too crazy, you’d be limited to 1 visit per franchise, so a diversified portfolio would be the way to go. You don’t want to end up with a living room full of TVs but be wearing rags and eating Ramen Noodles all year.

Sounds nuts, doesn’t it? Yet it’s just 1/365th of a real solution to the problem of gross inequality in our economy. 1 day out of the year when you get to grab more than you can possibly use for yourself; a way-the-hell out of whack greedy beyond all reason hogathon, just like all those CEOs, hedge fund managers, celebrities, etc. take for granted year round.

Here’s another idea:

What if someone creates a comprehensive set of laws to actually level the playing field — make it so that everybody is getting a fair share of the wealth being generated all year round. Make it something that will work even when, in the not to distant future, the entire labor for money thing dries up due to automation and droids. Have Robert Reich and a team of like minded economic geniuses draw up some legislation. Then we let the rich people and corporations vote on it; either National Shoplifting Day or a complete and permanent level playing field.

I bet they go for the Shoplifting. As a nonrich citizen of this great nation, what would you pick?

Thursday, Nov 26, 2015 · 12:16:14 AM CST · JO 753
Just had a great idea! You have my permission to plagerize this article. Copy & paste it anywhere you like & put your name on it! A plagerized with permission article about legalized shoplifting! PERFECT!

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Thursday, November 26, 2015 3:18 PM

REAVERFAN

We've arrived at socialism for the rich, and capitalism for everyone else.

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Saturday, November 28, 2015 12:16 AM

JO753

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I'm wondering wut will win out - a Hunger Gamez future or Idiocrasy. Maybe a combination uv both!

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 12:00 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Idocracy all the way my friend....

I made about 4k this year, including unemployment. I just about doubled that with food stamps and energy assistance.

If it wasn't for my teeth falling out of my mouth and how much that's going to cost me, I just about broke even.

I wouldn't mind a shopping spree day. I'd probably save a big screen TV or two, but I'd sell the rest to pay for all the dental work I need. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 12:06 AM

WISHIMAY

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I made about 4k this year, including unemployment. I just about doubled that with food stamps and energy assistance.

What I wanna know is "Why?" There's no reason you shouldn't have a decent paying job, there's many people here that have no teeth and still work 60 hr weeks.

Do you not have a resume together or something? You obviously know how to type and use a computer, so what gives???

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 12:10 AM

WISHIMAY

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Originally posted by JO753:
... a Hunger Gamez future...

BTW, went and saw that today out of sheer boredom....It has a nice ending message of "Everything will be hunky dory if you just breed a few times, everything can be fixed by BABIES."

It was very disturbing, thinking of all these girls out there watching THAT...

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 12:30 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I made about 4k this year, including unemployment. I just about doubled that with food stamps and energy assistance.

What I wanna know is "Why?" There's no reason you shouldn't have a decent paying job, there's many people here that have no teeth and still work 60 hr weeks.

Do you not have a resume together or something? You obviously know how to type and use a computer, so what gives???

Hey Wish :)

I just had a long convo with my old man about that today. I've been in one of my "funks" again for about 3 weeks and I didn't go to any of the family Thanksgiving parties. Thanksgiving hasn't been something I did with my Dad's side of the family for years, but he still knew about it... probably from one or both of my brothers.

He was just going to keep calling me until I picked up today, so I finally did. I told him something that I never told anyone I know personally. I'm damn near agoraphobic now. In the last 45-60 days, I've been outside of my home maybe 10 hours tops. That includes yard work.

I never got a proper college education, but with my extremely versatile work experience and the 6 months mechatronics training and the certs I've got, I can't give you one single good reason why I'm not at least working part time at Family Dollar now....

It's really bad actually. The few times I leave my house to pick up necessities I am so full of anxiety it actually physically hurts.

I've always not really liked people I don't know or being around them, but now that my teeth are falling out of my face and I've put on 30lbs and can barely cram my fat ass into my largest pair of jeans, my self esteem is so low i can barely get out of bed in the morning to pick up eggs, let alone try to survive a job interview.

I've probably got a 145-160 IQ. As you know, I can do almost anything necessary to keep a house working in tip-top shape as well as full bathroom/kitchen remodels. I'm great at customer service and walking customers through technical procedures over the phone without having to be there, and doing so with people all across the globe. My organizational skills are second to none. I could manage a warehouse. I can drive a forklift and other machines. I even know enough basic Spanish to get the point across to the employees that didn't speak English. Now I know so much about repairing machines and electrical relays that I'd be able to keep up with Kaylee...

Yet.... anything short of a cattle-prod or the idea of starving because there is no food left in my house is the only thing that can seem to get me out the door.

Honestly? When I'm awake, I really don't think I want to live anymore, to tell the truth.

I do have amazing dreams though. Really, Truly Amazing Dreams.

The last three weeks I've easily slept 18 hours or more everyday. I hate being awake and sober. I hate having to think about anything anymore. I just want to sleep and dream.

I'm not at all trying to justify my position here. I know how pathetic it is. I'm not even asking for your sympathy. You asked a question, and I answered it.

I'm my only friend and my own worst enemy at the same time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 1:14 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
... a Hunger Gamez future...

BTW, went and saw that today out of sheer boredom....It has a nice ending message of "Everything will be hunky dory if you just breed a few times, everything can be fixed by BABIES."

It was very disturbing, thinking of all these girls out there watching THAT...

Which Hunger Games movie did you see today?

I only saw the first two movies, but that's not the message I got out of it.

There is something to say about having kids though, at least if you're a decent person. I envy even my most messed up family that has kids because I know they're good people deep down. Even though it's hard, they get over themselves and put the kids first.

My old man said to me today that out of all of his kids that I'm the one most like him. That wasn't a revelation for either of us. We both knew that....

I told him that the difference between me and him, and something he should be applauded for is that he always had somebody to care about and help out to keep his mind off of himself like he would if he wasn't otherwise preoccupied. For better or worse, he had three kids from a terrible first marriage that he cared dearly for and the youngest is still childlike in many ways after the brain hemmorahge. When he was 40 he married a 20 year old with a 4 year old of her own. That 4 year old has grown up to be one of the nicest and respectable and well-rounded 26 year olds I've ever known. My half brother, my father's last son, is riddled with OCD but has a beautiful mind that I could never comprehend. The type of mind that understands string theory. The type of mind that recently turned down a job offering 80k a year..... Not because it wasn't enough money, but because he'd kill himself from the boredom of being one of the best insurance actuaries in the business....

I don't even own a dog. I have zero responsibilities.

"You asked for it? You Got It. Toyota!"

As appealing as a life without responsibility might have been to a 20 year old me, it's everything except the actual death sentence to me today.

Every Single Day I Live I tell myself "I'll do better Tomorrow".

Then the sun rises, as it always does, and I don't do any better.

I wake up at 6:30AM and somehow fill my mind with excueses and my belly with food and just lay around watching TV shows or sleeping and eventually it's dark outside again.

And I tell myself again "I'll do better Tomorrow"....

My life has become a sad loop of mediocrity and complacency. Without the will to break the chain, I feel like I have no idea how to move forward.

Everyday is exactly the same.

And I have no one to blame but myself.

At least I have that...

As long as you blame other people for your problems you can never hope to heal yourself.

I've forgiven my parents and anyone I used to be mad at before about all of my bruises. Believe it or not, I'm a lot more "happier" overall now that I'm free from that anger towards others I care about.

I feel like I've just moved all of that baggage on myself now though. I didn't set myself free of all of that anger and hate. I just moved it off the shoulders of my family and added it to the weight I already carried on my back.

I'm like a black hole for every piece of shit and negative thought anyone I care about has. An emptathatic lightning rod... a way to alleviate your pain and set you free from any of those guilty feelings you harbor...

Nobody asks where all that bullshit goes when it's gone from them.

As much as I'd love to, I don't cast them out into the great beyond...

i Crystallize them. i entomb them inside my head and my heart. The more pain I take away from others I care about, the less human I become as I internalize their own pain and suffering. The walls I was capable of erecting to keeping others out when I was in High School don't hold a candle to the walls I can make today with the mortar and stone provided by the alleviation of their guilt...

"Right Where it Belongs"? Probably not... but that's where I allow it all to land...

Why don't I have at least a semi-decent paying job?

I'm obviously much more capable of it than a majority of the people living on the low end of the money spectrum.....

It's because at the end of any day, even the darkest days, I'm nothing more than a Daydream Believer in a world of grey....

THE INTERNET is my Shithouse. I purge whatever I can here and elsewhere when the tank gets full, so I can go on helping others I care about by taking more of their Neverending Pile of Shit....

even in my BEST dreams I don't even dream of the woman who will make it all make it all go away anymore....

I wouldn't wish that job on my worst enemy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 1:34 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

For my own sanity, i have to at least put a somewhat positive spin on all of this. I've listened to all of those NIN songs 3 times and re-read the message as many times now, and I can't keep doing that.....

This isn't any different in the end, but at least it puts a happy vernier on everything..

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 2:48 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Just a song I hope our Spider Overlords appreicate when the time comes...

It's no less true because I'm placating our potential future Spider Overlords.... ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 3:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Maybe I lose a little cred because it wasn't the original Pixies version but somebody has to keep things somewhat "modern" here....

Nobody who is young enough to matter now even remembers Audioslave or the Great History behind them...

If there was one single song that explained where I was "stuck", this would be it....

At the end of the day, my old man is right. I'm here because I want to punish myself. Part of me wants to be miserable. Part of me believes that it is what I deserve.

....

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Maybe one day somebody will breathe new life into me before it's too late? Make me really believe that THIS should be my theme song....

Thats' my "Prince trying to put on the slipper"....

Whatever Girl makes me believe in this song is my Cinderella.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 3:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Am I somehow inferior to the "Rich" who knew better when I thought Chriss said "Girls and Swine" and not "Pearls and Swine" that were bereft...?

Soundgarden was the first American band invited to Cuba in decades. They must have been doing something right.

Here's me loving Chriss and Soundarden and Temple of the Dog, wearing my Che Guevara wearing a Che Guevera t-shirt....

My favorite song of all time is still Say Hello To Heaven :)

EDIT: Yes... that's Eddie Vedder singing backup before Pearl Jam :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 3:29 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

No matter what decade we're living in, there's always that Big Hard Sun beating us down.

May we all one day find that other special person who put up with our shit and laugh and take their bruise back again :)

"when I go to cross that river, She is comfort by my side"

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 3:37 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr

4,000? Thats virtually zilch, but I think you got me beat. I made 0 last month, sumthing like 100 the month befor and I think 600 the month befor that, but I may hav lost track and there wuz another 0 month in between. Been this way all yir!

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.nooalf.com

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 4:19 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
4,000? Thats virtually zilch, but I think you got me beat. I made 0 last month, sumthing like 100 the month befor and I think 600 the month befor that, but I may hav lost track and there wuz another 0 month in between. Been this way all yir!

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.nooalf.com

If not for unemployment and "benefits", my only income ended in early March and totaled around 1100 bucks.

I'm a seriously fucked up dude, even though I speak proper English MOST of the time.

What's your issue JO? You're like 10 times smarter than I am and 20 times better with People than I am! :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 1:04 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr

I'm not smarter than you and, going by the rezults, I am horrible with peepl.

The core problem iz a world class talent in anti-salez ability. If I coud find a company that wants to notsell a product for sum reazon, I coud make a fortune. The catch 22 iz that I woud hav to sell them on the idea that I coud do it.

The only way around this that I can think uv iz to find another lojik-only thinking alien like me who duznt hav this talent to act az an intermediary.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.nooalf.com

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 6:38 PM

WISHIMAY

Dude... Prozac... Get some...

Hubbs can't function without his. It's brain chemistry, and it needs fixin.

It's the first step, everything else will fall in line after.

Promise.

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 7:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Oh dear. Jack, I feel for you.

Are you drinking less? Your amped up dreams and anxiety may be alcohol withdrawal.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:14 PM

WISHIMAY

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I don't even own a dog. I have zero responsibilities.

Actually, that's not a totally bad idea. Dogs are great for getting you off your ass and socially coherent again.
http://news.yahoo.com/hiv-positive-doctor-says-dog-saved-life-17424079
8.html

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Monday, November 30, 2015 1:09 AM

WISHIMAY

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Which Hunger Games movie did you see today?

I only saw the first two movies, but that's not the message I got out of it.

The last one ends with babies...Not saying who, but yeah...babies...

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Tuesday, April 4, 2023 8:52 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Police track down 3 suspects in $5,000 perfume theft from California store

https://www.siliconvalley.com/2023/04/04/redlands-police-track-down-3-
suspects-in-5000-perfumes-theft/

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I wouldn't mind a shopping spree day.

I've been around all types but think some older users I ignored, maybe I mostly ignored you in the past and probably would have hated you.

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Tuesday, April 4, 2023 10:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

That's called sarcasm. Even in my drinking days I wasn't going to go looting.

There are no free lunches.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

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Saturday, June 17, 2023 8:30 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

What crime? Calif. advances bill barring retailers from confronting thieves.

https://sjvsun.com/business/what-crime-calif-advances-bill-barring-ret
ailers-from-confronting-thieves/

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Saturday, June 17, 2023 9:02 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
What crime? Calif. advances bill barring retailers from confronting thieves.

https://sjvsun.com/business/what-crime-calif-advances-bill-barring-ret
ailers-from-confronting-thieves/

Store owners are enraged that they cannot order their cashiers to attack shoplifters. The bill is focused on protecting employees and does not prohibit them from stopping theft. It only prevents employers from asking non-security personnel to confront someone involved in criminal activity.

The California bill does not affect trained security guards and highlights the need for dedicated safety personnel.

"[At] Safeways, Home Depots, it just seems to be happening every other day [unarmed, untrained employees killed by shoplifter] People get hurt and often killed that way.” – State Senator Dave Cortese

Workplace violence is the second leading cause of fatal occupational injury, according to a statement from Cortese’s office.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, August 8, 2023 2:38 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Democrats discover retail theft is a problem
https://www.oleantimesherald.com/commentary/democrats-discover-retail-
theft-is-a-problem/article_7ca5e83a-3612-11ee-b710-b30d39c7c985.html
Congressional Democrats returned home last week to tout new federal legislation intended to stop a surge in retail theft.

$US3 Million Auto Theft Ring Caught Bragging About Their Crimes Online
https://gizmodo.com.au/2023/08/us3-million-auto-theft-ring-caught-brag
ging-about-their-crimes-online/

Kekistan?

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Tuesday, August 8, 2023 2:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Democrats discover retail theft is a problem

Better late than never. I guess?

No. Democrats are the problem. Retail theft is just a symptom.

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How you do anything is how you do everything.

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