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Saturday, October 29, 2016 1:58 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Wikileaks released 13-page memo from Doug Band, Bill Clinton's loyal protector, justifying (or attempting to justify) his multiple roles as head of Teneo and shill for both the Clinton Foundation AND Bill Clinton personally.

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In doing so, Band also detailed a circle of enrichment in which he raised money for the Clinton Foundation from top-tier corporations such as Dow Chemical and Coca-Cola that were clients of his firm, Teneo, while pressing many of those same donors to provide personal income to the former president...

The memo, made public Wednesday by the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks, lays out the aggressive strategy behind lining up the consulting contracts and paid speaking engagements for Bill Clinton that added tens of millions of dollars to the family’s fortune, including during the years that Hillary Clinton led the State Department. It describes how Band helped run what he called “Bill Clinton Inc.,” obtaining “in-kind services for the President and his family— for personal travel, hospitality, vacation and the like.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-bill-clinton-inc-hacked
-memo-reveals-intersection-of-charity-and-personal-income/2016/10/26/3bf84bba-9b92-11e6-b3c9-f662adaa0048_story.html


The revelations got so messy that even the WSJ wrote an article "Grifters-in-Chief:
The Clintons don’t draw lines between their ‘charity’ and personal enrichment"

http://www.wsj.com/articles/grifters-in-chief-1477610771

In the memo, he tells about lining up $66 million for Bill Clinton, plus over a hundred-million more. Connections between the Foundation and the State Department (aside from the Bill-Hillary connection) thread through the story.

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Cheryl Mills, who at the time was serving as Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff at the State Department, was deeply involved in the foundation’s proceedings. ...Band outlined that Kelly, his Teneo co-founder, had served simultaneously between 2009 and 2011 as an unpaid economic envoy to Northern Ireland appointed by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and as head of a separate consulting company whose clients included Coke, UBS and Dow. Kelly’s multiple roles came together during one State Department event in 2010, when then-Secretary Clinton recognized Dow, among other companies, for creating jobs in Northern Ireland and thanked Kelly for his work on the issue. ...


Aside from that, FBI head Comey has re-opened the investigation into Hillary's State Department emails. It seems that "the device" owned by either Huma Abedin, Hillary's faithful aid, or Anthony Wiener her unfaithful husband, was discovered while the FBI was investigating Wiener's sexting allegations. This device contains some possibly-State=Department related emails.

I always thought that Hillary was hiding some deep policy emails, like deals between the CIA, State Department, and Saudi jihadists in Libya or some such. But at this point, I wonder if she deleted the "personal" emails between Hillary State Department and Bill Clinton Inc.



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Saturday, October 29, 2016 8:23 AM

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In July, Comey had testified under oath before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that the FBI was finished investigating the Clinton email matter and that there would be no criminal charges.

Comey was asked at the hearing whether, if the FBI came across new information, he would review it. “My first question is this, would you reopen the Clinton investigation if you discovered new information that was both relevant and substantial?” Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Tex.) asked Comey.

“It’s hard for me to answer in the abstract,” Comey replied. “We would certainly look at any new and substantial information.”

Read Comey’s letter to FBI employees below.

To all:

This morning I sent a letter to Congress in connection with the Secretary Clinton email investigation. Yesterday, the investigative team briefed me on their recommendation with respect to seeking access to emails that have recently been found in an unrelated case. Because those emails appear to be pertinent to our investigation, I agreed that we should take appropriate steps to obtain and review them.

Of course, we don’t ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations, but here I feel an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed. I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record. At the same time, however, given that we don’t know the significance of this newly discovered collection of emails, I don’t want to create a misleading impression. In trying to strike that balance, in a brief letter and in the middle of an election season, there is significant risk of being misunderstood, but I wanted you to hear directly from me about it.

Jim Comey
www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/10/28/read-the-letter-
comey-sent-to-fbi-employees-explaining-his-controversial-decision-on-the-clinton-email-investigation/?utm_term=.00c3ae733393


The emails were not to or from Clinton, and contained information that appeared to be more of what agents had already uncovered, the official said, but in an abundance of caution, they felt they needed to further scrutinize them.
www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-fbi-clinton-email-probe-20161028-st
ory.html


Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Tex.) asked Comey, “My first question is this, would you reopen the Clinton investigation if you discovered new information that was both relevant and substantial?”

Why did Comey decide this is "relevant and substantial" without reading the mail? President Trump would keep Comey as head of the FBI. Hillary would fire him because he is a Republican, except Comey was confirmed by the Senate on July 29, 2013, for a full ten-year term. The FBI has not read the emails yet and has no idea what they're about. At first glance—presumably from scanning the subject lines and names of recipients—they appear to be duplicates of stuff we've already seen. And it will likely take several weeks before we know anything more.

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 9:04 AM

THGRRI


People have made up their minds on Hillary's private server. Nothing to see here minus a bombshell.

President: National poll results

Averages for Fri Oct 28 2016


Hillary Clinton (D) 46% (+6.00)

Donald Trump (R) 40%

Gary Johnson (L) 4%


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Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:20 AM

SIGNYM

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FBI Found "Tens Of Thousands Of Emails" Belonging To Huma Abedin On Weiner's Laptop

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With furious Democrats - and the Clinton Campaign - now openly blasting the FBI's reopened investigation (as Republicans take delight for once in having a government agency reinforce their side of events), the question turns to just what emails were found on Weiner's laptop, and how damaging their contents are for the FBI to take the unprecedented step of "intervening" in a major political event just days before the national election.

We first laid what was the most likely explanation yesterday, when we showed several examples of Huma Abedin emails being sent from her work email account to her personal account at humaabedin@yahoo.com, courtesy of a Judicial Watch FOIA release. Of the more than 160 emails in the latest Judicial Watch release, some 110 emails – two-thirds of the total – were forwarded by Abedin to two personal addresses she controlled. The Washington Times reported in August 2015 that the State Department had admitted to a federal judge that Abedin and Mills used personal email accounts to conduct government business in addition to Clinton’s private clintonemail.com to transact State Department business.

One email from May 15, 2009, was sent by Abedin from her State Department email to her personal email. Abedin was archiving in her personal email account an email Hillary Clinton sent her from Clinton’s private email server at HDR22@clintonemail.com. Abedin was asked to print out attachments to an email Mills sent via a private address the previous day to Clinton involving “timetables and deliverables” for her review via Alec Ross, a technology policy expert who then held the title of senior adviser for innovation to Secretary Clinton.

However, while forwarding Hillary's emails to her personal email server for "convenience" is one thing, what is more troubling is the amount of redaction involved in these emails which migrated to the open email account, which as we now know ended up in Anthony Weiner's computer: in the above example, the two pages of timetables and deliverables attached to the email were 100 percent redacted, with “PAGE DENIED” stamped across the first redacted page.

An argument can be made that the extensive redaction confirms confidential material was part of the transmission.

This is a nuanced point being pushed by Hillary Clinton supporters such as Newsweek's Kurt Eichenwald, who in an article yesterday tried to make a case citing "sources" (even though the FBI said that nobody has seen the content of the Weiner/Abedin emails), that "no emails being examined by FBI were to or from Clinton."

No emails being examined by FBI were to or from Clinton. All of this has to do with procedures followed by an aide. https://t.co/mcsBi7j7XU
— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) October 29, 2016


It remains to be seen just what is in the emails, although whether Hillary sent emails with confidential content herself, or directed, or simply allowed her closest aide, Huma Abedin to forward such emails to her outside unsecured email address (where they subsequently ended up on Anthony Weiner's notebook), is what this latest case will be all about and how it will be defended and prosecuted in the media, by the water coolers and perhaps, in court.

However, we do know one thing: according to the NYT, the number of Huma emails that made their way to Weiner's PC was staggering:

The F.B.I. is investigating illicit text messages that Mr. Weiner, a former Democratic congressman from New York, sent to a 15-year-old girl in North Carolina. The bureau told Congress on Friday that it had uncovered new emails related to the Clinton case — one federal official said they numbered in the tens of thousand

Which brings up two more critical questions: i) when she was questioned by the FBI over the summer, did Huma reveal and admit the existence of these "thousands" of emails located on a personal, home computer, and ii) will the FBI be able to comb through everything in the next 10 days ahead of the election? If the answer to the second question is no, will the US presidential election really take place with one candidate currently under FBI investigation, one which could potentially lead to impeachment proceedings within weeks or days of her being elected president?

Still, the biggest irony in this latest debacle is that it was largely predicted by Donald Trump himself back in August of 2015.

It came out that Huma Abedin knows all about Hillary’s private illegal emails. Huma’s PR husband, Anthony Weiner, will tell the world.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 3, 2015



Yanno, I think that the FBI tried mightily to sweep the emails under the rug. With the unprecedented number of criminal immunities given out for a crime that supposedly nobody would ever prosecute, and the allowance that these protected witnesses could destroy evidence (literally take a hammer to hard drives and thumb drives, if necessary) that the FBI hadn't even seen, Comey MADE SURE that it would be impossible to prosecute Hillary for mishandling evidence, or prosecute for ... what are those words, again?... "conspiracy" and "obstruction of justice"?

By god, he did his best. He stood up in front of the nation, and after laying out an extremely strong case for how Hillary dealt with classified emails extremely carelessly ... the word "negligence" springs to mind ... he laid his reputation on the chopping block and protected her reputation by sacrificing his. Wow, whatta guy. One could hardly ask for more.

And BTW, I think that the reason why Bill Clinton spoke privately with DOJ Attorney General Loretta Lynch is not because he tried to work out a deal with her ahead of time, but because he knew that Lynch would do an honest job and he WANTED to throw the case to Comey, whom the Clinton's appear to have some hold over. That is literally the only explanation that makes sense for Bill to abort his plane's takeoff and hike over to Loretta's just-landed plane, and pop in for a chat about the grandkids. In this plan, it didn't matter what he talked about ... it could have been bubblegum ... just the mere fact that they were together privately for 20 minutes, talking about ... well, nothing ... was enough.

But be that as it may, the Clintons have made a career out of illegally getting rid of inconvenient evidence (and some say, inconvenient people) to hide their illegal dealings. This might be the day they they found that they didn't bury everything deep enough.





Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 4:11 PM

SIGNYM

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MSNBC and Morning Joe take a dump on Hillary





Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:11 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
FBI Found "Tens Of Thousands Of Emails" Belonging To Huma Abedin On Weiner's Laptop



News flash, FBI finds thousands of emails from wife to her husband.

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:15 PM

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Signym, you can't seriously believe any of this will change the inevitable election outcome.

As the song says, it's too late:



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Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:22 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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FBI Found "Tens Of Thousands Of Emails" Belonging To Huma Abedin On Weiner's Laptop = ZH
News flash, FBI finds thousands of emails from wife to her husband. = DUMBO



Newflash, wives don't send "tens of thousands" of emails to their husbands. And if you were married or even had any sort of relationship with/ experience with women, you would know that.





Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Just laying the groundwork for all the 'I TOLD YOU SO, you idiots!" posts after her corona ... election.

And I have to say, after all the personal shit thrown at us by the junior high bullies, and after all the adamant refusal to take an honest look at their candidate and even discuss her shortcomings, I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:25 PM

SIGNYM

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Signym, you can't seriously believe any of this will change the inevitable election outcome.
As the song says, it's too late:



Well, you never know. This is what they were saying about Remain before Brexit took the vote:

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The final update of our poll tracker is similar to the first. As the public head off to vote, opinion is split evenly and a tenth still say they have not decided. While Wales wavers, most other components of our tracker have stayed persistently stubborn in their relative positions. For all the campaigning neither the Remain nor the Leave camps have convinced voters of their cause. A high overall turnout will likely benefit Remain, as young people and richer old folk are keener on the union, but a big turnout is far from guaranteed

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2016/06/britain-s-eu-refe
rendum




Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:31 PM

THGRRI


SIG you're dumb beyond belief. To act surprised that the Clintons and their aids are political is sad. The fact that you are the only one who doesn't known this to be true about all politicians and their aids again, is sad. The fact that you don't understand that all politicians practice pay to play is sad. The fact that you can't refrain from hate in these threads is the saddest thing of all.

With the republicans it is always the end of the world. The private email server was stupid. Clinton has said as much. It's the only reason the republicans can say she shouldn't be president. There are a million reasons why Trump shouldn't be.

It never ceases to amaze me how you're always on the wrong side of an argument, always taking the side of the most reprehensible. It's got to be a record. It certainly shows a flaw in your character.

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.




Correct, an example would be the invasion of Ukraine being engineered by the Kremlin comrade. The email hack of Putin's top aid is proving that.

I TOLD YOU SO, opps, WE TOLD YOU SO

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:41 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Signym, you can't seriously believe any of this will change the inevitable election outcome.
As the song says, it's too late:



Well, you never know. This is what they were saying about Remain before Brexit took the vote:

The final update of our poll tracker is similar to the first. As the public head off to vote, opinion is split evenly and a tenth still say they have not decided. While Wales wavers, most other components of our tracker have stayed persistently stubborn in their relative positions. For all the campaigning neither the Remain nor the Leave camps have convinced voters of their cause. A high overall turnout will likely benefit Remain, as young people and richer old folk are keener on the union, but a big turnout is far from guaranteed



Interesting. A few questions

Why do you think Brexit has anything to do with our presidential election?

What do you think about AG Lynch taking the 5th when asked by Congress what she knows about Obama's Iran ransom payments?

What do you think about Comey's unprecedented election eve stunt?

What do you think of this?




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Saturday, October 29, 2016 5:44 PM

SIGNYM

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It never ceases to amaze me how you're always on the wrong side of an argument, always taking the side of the most reprehensible.
It never ceases to amaze me how you're always reprehensible. Here you are, arguing FOR corruption, non-democratic decision-making, and the elites.

Why is that?

You can't aspire to anything better?





Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:36 PM

SIGNYM

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Interesting. A few questions
Why do you think Brexit has anything to do with our presidential election?



Well, it's a useful comparison. The UK "establishment" - made of the London banking center and other large banks like RBS, government financiers, the BBC in lockstep with government, and Eurocrats - were all sucking pretty heavily on the teat of international integration. They removed almost all decision-making power from the British national government, making it impossible for the government to develop a separate policy on anything from fishing rights to immigration.

The "establishment" here is also backing Hillary. Hillary herself in a self-admitted "open border" person, and she represents the interests of big international banks like Goldman Sachs and JPMChase, international elites and their "wealth management" firms, international pharma, international activists like George Soros (promoter of "color revolutions" everywhere), and IP-rentiers (Silicon Valley elite and international agribusiness) who are looking to use international trade agreements like TTP and TTIP to enforce their monopolies and expand their markets. (And no, she will not significantly oppose TTP and TTIP. They'll just put lipstick on that pig and pass it later.) So she does not represent the national interests of the USA any more than the EU represents the national interests of Britain.

Also, it was a terrible surprise when Brexit passed, because all expectations were that it would fail.

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What do you think about AG Lynch taking the 5th when asked by Congress what she knows about Obama's Iran ransom payments?
Well, probably because Obama paid ransom payments.

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What do you think about Comey's unprecedented election eve stunt?
That's a good question! Also, what do I think about MSNBC, which has been so Hillary-friendly, doing such an about face? No idea. Will speculation do?

1) They have found out something about Hillary that is so godawful that even if she is elected she will be indicted as the first event of her Presidency and so the DNC is strategizing how to dump Hillary.

2) Or they have found out something about Hillary that is so godawful that Comey himself is worried about being indicted.

3) Despite all of the poll-rigging and vote-rigging, Trump is winning and Comey is looking to ensure his future job.

4) Or ETA: Comey is facing a revolt by the rank-an-file FBI who are getting to the point of leaking even more damaging information, and he's trying to get ahead of it.

5) OR ....?

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What do you think of this? [drain the swamp]


If Obama really wanted to make a difference, he would have needed to fire about 2,000 people out of the various agencies that he supposedly heads.

Same with Trump. IF Trump wins the election, he would need to appoint a seriously loyal and smart Cabinet, who would then go about firing the corrupt officials that have exposed themselves. And then appoint a whole 'nother group of hopefully less corrupt people. I work in a government agency; the corruption - where it occurs- happens at the top. There are probably some really sharp people who could be promoted.

Also, he would need some awesome security people to protect him from "suicide", "lone gunmen", "heart attacks" and "plane accidents". (Yanno, the CIA specialties.)



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


When all else fails, BLAME RUSSIA!

"Howard Dean: Comey Is Now Siding With Putin"

"Social media mocks Senator claiming Russia may be behind new Clinton FBI probe"

hahahahahaha!



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 7:41 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


The email hack of Putin's top aid is proving that.

Is this your usual dog-whistle crap with no links and no evidence?

Why, YES! It IS!




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 8:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Yanno, I think that the FBI tried mightily to sweep the emails under the rug. With the unprecedented number of criminal immunities given out for a crime that supposedly nobody would ever prosecute, and the allowance that these protected witnesses could destroy evidence (literally take a hammer to hard drives and thumb drives, if necessary) that the FBI hadn't even seen, Comey MADE SURE that it would be impossible to prosecute Hillary for mishandling evidence, or prosecute for ... what are those words, again?... "conspiracy" and "obstruction of justice"?

By god, he did his best. He stood up in front of the nation, and after laying out an extremely strong case for how Hillary dealt with classified emails extremely carelessly ... the word "negligence" springs to mind ... he laid his reputation on the chopping block and protected her reputation by sacrificing his. Wow, whatta guy. One could hardly ask for more.

I am asking for more from Mr. Comey:

Senior Justice Department officials, career prosecutors and even some in the F.B.I. were at a loss Saturday as to what would happen next. Would Mr. Comey provide a blow-by-blow accounting of the F.B.I.’s steps until Election Day? Did he plan further announcements? Or did he intend, after shaking up the election with his letter, to remain silent about the facts until the presidential votes had been tallied? The F.B.I. offered no comment, and Justice Department officials said they had no idea what Mr. Comey saw as his next move.

Under Justice Department policy, restated each election cycle, politics should play no role in any investigative decisions. In Democratic and Republican administrations, Justice Department officials have interpreted that policy broadly, to cover any steps that might give even an impression of partisanship.

“We must be particularly sensitive to safeguarding the department’s reputation for fairness, neutrality and nonpartisanship,” the deputy attorney general, Sally Q. Yates, wrote in a memo this year offering the latest statement of the policy.
www.newssniffer.co.uk/articles/1258576/diff/2/3

Mr. Comey had alerted Congress — and by extension, the public — before agents even began reading the newly discovered emails to determine whether they contained classified information or added new facts to the case.

Law enforcement officials have begun the process to get court authority to read the emails, officials said. How soon they will get that is unclear, but there is no chance that the review will be completed before Election Day, several law enforcement officials said.
www.newssniffer.co.uk/articles/1258576/diff/3/4



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:29 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I think that the reason why Bill Clinton spoke privately with DOJ Attorney General Loretta Lynch is not because he tried to work out a deal with her ahead of time, but because he knew that Lynch would do an honest job and he WANTED to throw the case to Comey

The very first (and only) thing I posted about this was that it was Bill's plan to so taint Lynch with an appearance of partiality that she would have to step aside and hand it off to someone else. But if she was at all concerned about preserving her career, this would have been a good move on her behalf as well.

But as I think about it, I suspect it's that they see Lynch as potentiality useful in the future.






I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.

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Sunday, October 30, 2016 2:30 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND

Not too long ago, the Democrats and liberal media stood should-to-shoulder and called Comey honest, and a man of unimpeachable integrity, with a strong sense of right and wrong, without fear or favor, a straight shooter.

Now they're all in a lather because they want to know... RIGHT NOW ... what dirt he might have on their hand-picked candidate, the one that they rigged to primaries to elect.

My, how times and opinions have changed!

One possibility is that this is simply a man doing an honest job: There he is, with new unlooked-for evidence on a case that he said was closed, and that he felt, in all honesty, that he couldn't "secretly" re-open the investigation given the political situation. The one thing that I find ... unusual... is that have gave notice to House Republicans only.

In any case, you need to keep your shirt on. If they did indeed find "tens of thousands" of emails on Weiner's laptop, they need to read through them and create a timeline of who and when, especially in relation to the other emails in their possession, perhps even to the Wikileaks releases, and also look for classified emails, IN ADDITION to any emails and sexts in relation to the Weiner case.

They can't just dump them out on the inet, and given the potential amount of emails, it may be difficult to come up with a timeline for when they would be through evaluating the information. I'm sure they'll have a timeline in a week or so.

Since they can neither clear Hillary nor can they develop the evidence for prosecution in the time available, and providing INCOMPLETE information is even worse, I think a timetable would be the most that can be expected between now and the election.

I can imagine the strategizing going on in the DNC right now. Will they dump Hillary and substitute someone else?

Doubtful, now that early voting has already started.

My guess is that they'll bull their way through this, encouraging people to VOTE EARLY! before even more damaging information comes out from somewhere. The DNC doesn't mind early voters experiencing "buyer's remorse" as long as "their" candidate gets in.



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Sunday, October 30, 2016 3:13 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I know it's too early for I TOLD YOU SO, but I've been saying all along that as far as ethics are concerned,

Hillary and Trump are a wash, but I give an edge to Trump because he doesn't have a policy history of advocating bombing hundreds of thousands of brown people (including women and children) in faraway nations.

Hillary has you bamboozled into believing that she's a progressive. That she's seriously interested in "women's rights" even as she supports Saudi Arabia and Qatar, who are funding and arming repressive Wahhabists everywhere. That she's seriously concerned about "migrants" even as she creates millions more by destabilizing or bombing the snot out of their home nations. That she's for "the middle class" even as she promotes the interests of the international elites. If Hillary (and Obama) were REALLY representing you, do you think we would be in this clusterfuck that we are now?

I stick by that, and my "I TOLD YOU SO"s are at the ready.



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Sunday, October 30, 2016 3:35 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Here's a few key phrases:

Criminal enterprise.

Money laundering.

RICOH








Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:57 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


650,000 Emails Found On Anthony Weiner's Laptop: FBI Expects "Weeks Of Work Ahead"

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Yesterday, we reported that the FBI has found "tens of thousands of emails" belonging to Huma Adein on Anthony Weiner's computer, raising questions how practical it is that any conclusive finding will be available or made by the FBI in the few days left before the elections

Now, according to the WSJ, it appears that Federal agents are preparing to scour roughly 650,000 emails that, as we reported moments ago were discovered weeks ago on the laptop of Anthony Weiner, to see how many relate to a prior probe of Hillary Clinton’s email use, as metadata on the device suggests there may be thousands sent to or from the private server that the Democratic nominee used while she was secretary of state, according to people familiar with the matter.

As the WSJ adds, the review will take weeks at a minimum to determine whether those messages are work-related emails between Huma Abedin, a close Clinton aide and the estranged wife of Mr. Weiner, and State Department officials; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe, which FBI officials call “Midyear.”

And, as we further reported earlier today, the FBI has had to await a court order to begin reviewing the emails, because they were uncovered in an unrelated probe of Mr. Weiner, and that order was delayed for reasons that remain unclear.

More stunning is just how many emails were found on Weiner's computer. And while one can only imagine the content of some of the more persona ones, the WSJ writes that the latest development began in early October when New York-based FBI officials notified Andrew McCabe, the bureau’s second-in-command, that while investigating Mr. Weiner for possibly sending sexually charged messages to a minor, they had recovered a laptop with 650,000 emails. Many, they said, were from the accounts of Ms. Abedin, according to people familiar with the matter.



Wow, that's a lot of love letters, Huma!



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Sunday, October 30, 2016 6:02 PM

SIGNYM

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Doug Band To John Podesta: "If This Story Gets Out, We Are Screwed"

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Need get this asap to them although I'm sure cvc [Chelsea Clinton] won't believe it to be true bc she doesn't want to Even though the facts speak for themselves.

John, I would appreciate your feedback and any suggestions I'm also starting to worry that if this story [hustling funds WJC] for gets out, we are screwed. Dk [Declan Kelly] and I built a business. 65 people work for us who have wives and husbands and kids, they all depend on us. Our business has almost nothing to do with the clintons, the foundation or cgi in any way. The chairman of ubs could care a less about cgi. Our fund clients who we do restructuring and m and a advising the same just as bhp nor tivo do. These are real companies who we provide real advice to through very serious people. Comm head for goldman, dep press secretary to bloomberg, former head of banking, and his team, from morgan stanley for asia and latin am.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-30/doug-band-john-podesta-if-sto
ry-gets-out-we-are-screwed




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Yes SIG I too am excited about Hillary winning. We have a lot to look forward to. I am sure she appreciates all your support. You are a real Clinton trooper.

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid wrote a letter to Comey of the FBI:

In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government — a foreign interest openly hostile to the United States, which Trump praises at every opportunity. The public has a right to know this information. I wrote to you months ago calling for this information to be released to the public. There is no danger to American interests from releasing it. And yet, you continue to resist calls to inform the public of this critical information.

By contrast, as soon as you came into possession of the slightest innuendo related to Secretary Clinton, you rushed to publicize it in the most negative light possible.
www.reid.senate.gov/press_releases/2016-10-30-in-letter-reid-says-come
y-may-have-broken-the-law#.WBbDiCRbc13


I wouldn't count on any explosive news emerging about Trump's bromance with Vladimir Putin, but this is A+ trolling from Reid. The only surprise is that Reid wrote a letter to Comey instead of a tweetstorm. But Reid is old school.

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Monday, October 31, 2016 12:56 AM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So you consider mere accusations - very obviously made for political gain - to be evidence?

Yeah, well, we all know your brain was eaten away by syphilis years ago.

Happy fantasies, tootsie.




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Thanks for your responses.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Well, it's a useful comparison. The UK "establishment" - made of the London banking center and other large banks like RBS, government financiers, the BBC in lockstep with government, and Eurocrats - were all sucking pretty heavily on the teat of international integration. They removed almost all decision-making power from the British national government, making it impossible for the government to develop a separate policy on anything from fishing rights to immigration.

The "establishment" here is also backing Hillary. Hillary herself in a self-admitted "open border" person, and she represents the interests of big international banks like Goldman Sachs and JPMChase, international elites and their "wealth management" firms, international pharma, international activists like George Soros (promoter of "color revolutions" everywhere), and IP-rentiers (Silicon Valley elite and international agribusiness) who are looking to use international trade agreements like TTP and TTIP to enforce their monopolies and expand their markets. (And no, she will not significantly oppose TTP and TTIP. They'll just put lipstick on that pig and pass it later.) So she does not represent the national interests of the USA any more than the EU represents the national interests of Britain.


I've heard 'pundits' say basically the same. I'd like to believe that voters are sick and tired of the 'system' and want real change, but with half of all Americans receiving some form of Govt. assistance, it doesn't seem likely that they want anything to change.

Quote:

Well, probably because Obama paid ransom payments.

How can a US Attorney General under oath plead the Fifth? The highest law enforcement officer in the land won't testify because she fears she will incriminate herself? That, along with the Bill Clinton meeting during his wife's investigation seem like grounds for immediate impeachment.

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1) They have found out something about Hillary that is so godawful that even if she is elected she will be indicted as the first event of her Presidency and so the DNC is strategizing how to dump Hillary.

2) Or they have found out something about Hillary that is so godawful that Comey himself is worried about being indicted.

3) Despite all of the poll-rigging and vote-rigging, Trump is winning and Comey is looking to ensure his future job.

4) Or ETA: Comey is facing a revolt by the rank-an-file FBI who are getting to the point of leaking even more damaging information, and he's trying to get ahead of it.

5) OR ....?


As much as I am pleased about this development I think it's not in the best interest of democracy. It's fundamentally un-American to perpetrate a stunt like this on any candidate so close to an election.

Quote:

If Obama really wanted to make a difference, he would have needed to fire about 2,000 people out of the various agencies that he supposedly heads.

Same with Trump. IF Trump wins the election, he would need to appoint a seriously loyal and smart Cabinet, who would then go about firing the corrupt officials that have exposed themselves. And then appoint a whole 'nother group of hopefully less corrupt people. I work in a government agency; the corruption - where it occurs- happens at the top. There are probably some really sharp people who could be promoted.

Also, he would need some awesome security people to protect him from "suicide", "lone gunmen", "heart attacks" and "plane accidents". (Yanno, the CIA specialties.)


2,000 people? How'd you come up with that number? That's sounds like a Stalin-esque purge. Replacing 200 top officials seems more reasonable.

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Monday, October 31, 2016 10:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Here's a few key phrases:

Criminal enterprise.

Money laundering.

RICOH


RICO, not RICOH

Clinton’s State Department: A RICO Enterprise

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441573/hillary-clinton-corruptio
n-foundation



I've seen this movie somewhere before.

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Monday, October 31, 2016 10:44 AM

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Quote:

Well, it's a useful comparison. The UK "establishment" - made of the London banking center and other large banks like RBS, government financiers, the BBC in lockstep with government, and Eurocrats - were all sucking pretty heavily on the teat of international integration. They removed almost all decision-making power from the British national government, making it impossible for the government to develop a separate policy on anything from fishing rights to immigration.

The "establishment" here is also backing Hillary. Hillary herself in a self-admitted "open border" person, and she represents the interests of big international banks like Goldman Sachs and JPMChase, international elites and their "wealth management" firms, international pharma, international activists like George Soros (promoter of "color revolutions" everywhere), and IP-rentiers (Silicon Valley elite and international agribusiness) who are looking to use international trade agreements like TTP and TTIP to enforce their monopolies and expand their markets. (And no, she will not significantly oppose TTP and TTIP. They'll just put lipstick on that pig and pass it later.) So she does not represent the national interests of the USA any more than the EU represents the national interests of Britain. - SIGNY

I've heard 'pundits' say basically the same. I'd like to believe that voters are sick and tired of the 'system' and want real change, but with half of all Americans receiving some form of Govt. assistance, it doesn't seem likely that they want anything to change. - RIVER



They're voting identity politics, not policy.

Quote:

Well, probably because Obama paid ransom payments - SIGNY

How can a US Attorney General under oath plead the Fifth? The highest law enforcement officer in the land won't testify because she fears she will incriminate herself? That, along with the Bill Clinton meeting during his wife's investigation seem like grounds for immediate impeachment.- RIVER



Agreed. As I read more about the whole email investigation, it became clear that Lynch was not a honest broker, that she has been protecting the Clintons all along.

Quote:

1) They have found out something about Hillary that is so godawful that even if she is elected she will be indicted as the first event of her Presidency and so the DNC is strategizing how to dump Hillary.

2) Or they have found out something about Hillary that is so godawful that Comey himself is worried about being indicted.

3) Despite all of the poll-rigging and vote-rigging, Trump is winning and Comey is looking to ensure his future job.

4) Or ETA: Comey is facing a revolt by the rank-an-file FBI who are getting to the point of leaking even more damaging information, and he's trying to get ahead of it.

5) OR ....? - SIGNY

As much as I am pleased about this development I think it's not in the best interests of democracy. It's very un-American to perpetrate a stunt like this on any candidate so close to an election.- RIVER

I don't see this as a "stunt". If Comey had NOT indicated that the investigation was being re-opened, then he could also have been accused of covering up for the Clintons. It's more important to me that voters go to the polls with full knowledge, instead of voting on a lie.

Quote:

If Obama really wanted to make a difference, he would have needed to fire about 2,000 people out of the various agencies that he supposedly heads. Same with Trump. IF Trump wins the election, he would need to appoint a seriously loyal and smart Cabinet, who would then go about firing the corrupt officials that have exposed themselves. And then appoint a whole 'nother group of hopefully less corrupt people. I work in a government agency; the corruption - where it occurs- happens at the top. There are probably some really sharp people who could be promoted. Also, he would need some awesome security people to protect him from "suicide", "lone gunmen", "heart attacks" and "plane accidents". (Yanno, the CIA specialties.)- SIGNY
2,000 people? How'd you come up with that number? That's sounds like a Stalin-esque purge. Replacing 200 top officials seems more reasonable.- RIVER



No, Stalin-esque would have been 2 million.

Okay, maybe 2000 was too generous. How abut 1000? There are about 20 Cabinet-level plus "other important" positions. If each Department had 50 people in it that needed to be fired, that would make up the total. I would start with the 50 staffers in the State Department who wrote an open letter of protest thumping for "more war" in Syria, and concentrate pretty heavily on the CIA, NSA, FBI, Justice, State Department, and Joint Chiefs. A lot of very good people quit in disgust over the shenanigans and politics; maybe they should be called back into service - if they'll come.



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Monday, October 31, 2016 12:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I don't see this as a "stunt". If Comey had NOT indicated that the investigation was being re-opened, then he could also have been accused of covering up for the Clintons. It's more important to me that voters go to the polls with full knowledge, instead of voting on a lie.

It’s only when you step outside the circle of madness that you can see how ridiculous this is. If nobody had ever seen a Hillary email before, uncovering a trove of them on the laptop of the estranged husband of one of her key aides might be a big deal. But Hillary’s email has already been exhaustively investigated from multiple different angles and it shows no wrongdoing whatsoever. If you assume there is wrongdoing then, yes, maybe all evidence of the wrongdoing was suppressed from what was turned over and Weiner’s computer contains secret new damning emails.

But what if all previous investigations have shown no wrongdoing because there was no wrongdoing? Network news has devoted more minutes of coverage to Clinton’s emails than to all policy issues combined even as email investigations have not uncovered any wrongdoing.
https://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/10/26/study-confirms-network-evenin
g-newscasts-have-abandoned-policy-coverage-2016-campaign/214120


Hillary haters know she’s guilty, they're just trying to decide what she's guilty of and when will we find the evidence? An investigation that once upon a time was about a terrorist attack on an American consulate becomes an inquiry into FOIA compliance which shifts into a question about handling email. And if the emails turn out not to be new at all it will morph into some new questions about Huma Abedin’s choice of which computers to use to check her email.

The Prime Directive compels Hillary haters to always look under a new rock and likewise compels cable television and many major newspapers to treat the barest hint of the possibility of new evidence that might be damning as a major development.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 31, 2016 1:00 PM

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Hatch Act of 1939

The Hatch Act of 1939, officially An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities, is a United States federal law whose main provision prohibits employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president, vice-president, and certain designated high-level officials of that branch, from engaging in some forms of political activity.


I quote the FBI director testifying before Congress.

"Mr. Chairman, I respectfully say that’s one I’m not going to comment on. As you also know about the FBI, we don’t talk about our investigations while we’re doing them."

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Monday, October 31, 2016 3:43 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

from engaging in some forms of political activity.
So, what is a "political activity"?

Manning a phone bank, or requiring your staffers to do so; or providing other campaign services in a way unrelated to the performance of your job (which would be providing security to all legitimate candidates).

Collecting contributions for a candidate or party, requiring your staff to contribute, etc.

"Snooping" on one candidate to provide information to another.

Endorsing or publicly supporting a specific candidate or party. (Yes, it inhibits a person's First Amendment rights.)

---

Now, as far as I can tell, Comey would have been delinquent in his duty as an even-handed Director, if he re-opened the investigation secretly. Eventually, people need to vote on the truth. The more truth, the better.











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Monday, October 31, 2016 4:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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“The main reason behind successful immigration should be painfully obvious to even the most dimwitted of observers: Some groups of people are almost always highly successful given only half of a chance (Jews*, Hindus/Sikhs and Chinese people, for example), while others (Muslims, blacks** and Roma***, for instance) fare badly almost irrespective of circumstances. The biggest group of humanity can be found somewhere between these two extremes – the perennial overachievers and the professional never-do-wells.”- HRC

http://usapoliticsnow.com/wikileaks-bombshell-wikileaks-reveals-hillar
ys-racist-remarks-blacks
/



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Monday, October 31, 2016 4:11 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

It’s only when you step outside the circle of madness that you can see how ridiculous this is. If nobody had ever seen a Hillary email before, uncovering a trove of them on the laptop of the estranged husband of one of her key aides might be a big deal.

But Hillary’s email has already been exhaustively investigated from multiple different angles and it shows no wrongdoing whatsoever.

Well, since Hillary deleted 30,000 "personal" emails from her server, it would be hard to make any sort of judgment on what Hillary did. Or didn't do.

We already know from the emails that were recovered that she mis-handled classified documents. It would be interesting to know if those deleted emails revealed collusion between Bill Clinton Inc and the State Department.

The circle of madness is in your brain, which appears to be ... if anything ... circling the drain.



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Monday, October 31, 2016 4:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


As much as I am pleased about this development I think it's not in the best interest of democracy. It's fundamentally un-American to perpetrate a stunt like this on any candidate so close to an election.

When did government acting in secrecy from its citizens, to dupe ad propagandize them, become a democratic value? When did aiding and abetting that become patriotic? When did exposing government corruption become treason?

* I * think that truth can only improve the democratic process. People need to vote freely on facts, not be stampeded by carefully crafted and constantly repeated propaganda.




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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Clinton Owns It All

By A.B. Stoddard
October 31, 2016

James Comey now tops Vladimir Putin and Julian Assange as the Hillary-harmer-in-chief, but the truth is Hillary Clinton’s once strong lead in the presidential race started shrinking before the Friday afternoon massacre, as the former secretary of state’s jaw-dropping misdeeds had caught up with her via Assange’s stinging WikiLeaks email dumps. No matter how unorthodox the conduct of FBI Director Comey, should Clinton lose to Donald Trump on Nov. 8, it’s her own fault.

News that the FBI is re-opening the investigation into Clinton’s handling of classified information on an unsecured private server is a potentially fatal blow to her hopes of winning the White House. Comey’s decision to inform Congress of the new chapter in the probe 11 days before the election has made him the target of Democrats furious that the FBI broke protocol by first speaking publicly about an ongoing investigation, and secondly by influencing an election in its final stretch. It’s likely that Democrats will spend the remaining days of the campaign running against Comey instead of Trump, but it’s hard to see backlash against the FBI director buoying her.

Clinton fatigue -- a 1990s syndrome -- is back and voters aren’t inclined to give Clinton much benefit of the doubt. Pollster Peter Hart conducted a focus group of undecided voters in North Carolina last week for the Annenberg Public Policy Center. Participants there summed it up: Not only did many describe her as a liar but almost universally, when asked her reason for running, said it was for “power” or to satisfy personal ambition.

It couldn’t have been easy for Michelle Obama to warn a cheering crowd in the same state last week that if Clinton loses “it’s on us.” Nope. The first lady knows that the fresh-faced millennials -- who likely lined up to see her rather than Clinton at their joint appearance -- can’t be blamed if they don't turn out for Clinton and her decades of odorous baggage. No -- #itsonher.

While Clinton was once “likable enough,” as then-Sen. Barack Obama so stupidly put it during their contentious primary race in 2008, she isn’t anymore. Since then she has stowed government records belonging to taxpayers on an unsecured server, likely exposing them to our enemies and adversaries, in an apparent attempt to subvert the Freedom of Information Act, or deflect subpoenas from the U.S. Congress in what could amount to obstruction of justice. Since then she has lied to the public many, many times. Congress has asked the FBI to investigate whether she perjured herself before a select committee in her 11 hours of testimony on the Benghazi attacks.

In her years as secretary of state she engaged in actions that defied the ethical agreement President Obama required when she joined his administration to clearly separate her government work from that of the Clinton Foundation. Instead no walls or boundaries were ever erected as Clinton and her top State Department staff had a hand in foundation business, as well as the for-profit work that made former President Bill Clinton rich. Clinton herself saw no problem, upon leaving the State Department and preparing to run for president again, with speaking to Wall Street interests for $250,000 an hour, since -- as she said in 2014 -- when she and her husband left the White House they were “dead broke.”

The WikiLeaks trove illustrates the singular universe the Clinton family and staff operated in, one without ethical guard rails to divide government service from personal enrichment. But there’s plenty more to turn voters’ stomach as well.

One of Clinton’s worst lies (among her many documented ones) was to a grieving Pat Smith, who lost her son Sean in the Benghazi attack. In what Florida Sen. Marco Rubio said should forever disqualify Clinton from the job of commander-in-chief, we all now know Clinton told her daughter in an email on September 11, 2012 that an “al Qaeda-like group” had killed four men there including the U.S. ambassador, yet days later she told Pat Smith it was the fault of an anti-Islamic video.

Emails show the campaign believed there was an opportunity to confuse voters by attempting to merge the issues of the Benghazi attack with Clinton’s use of a private server. “If the objective is to connect emails-Benghazi and conflate the two in voters’ minds (which consultants feel is an imperative here), I’m not sure we know whether we can credibly do that - we’ll get a read from [focus] groups.”

This tactic, which assumes voters’ ignorance, was employed more than once -- Clinton repeated countless times that she regretted using “personal email,” which she often insisted was allowed, instead of expressing regret for the glaring transgression of placing government records on a rogue server.

The decision to use her own server startled even Clinton’s most trusted aides, and the WikiLeaks revelations expose a potential leader whose own top staffers and confidantes don't trust her decisions or judgment.

In July of 2015, months after the email server story exploded, Clinton ally Neera Tanden asked Campaign Chairman John Podesta in an email: “Do we actually know who told Hillary she could use a private email? And has that person been drawn and quartered?” Two months later Podesta acknowledged the damage the scandal had wrought, writing, “We’ve taken on a lot of water that won’t be easy to pump out of the boat ... a lot has to do with her instincts.”

Clinton is counting on all of this being pre-baked into the election cake. Strong opposition to Trump will drive many voters to support her, their noses held. Maybe no new emails in the reopened investigation will be released or leaked by the FBI before the polls close on Election Day, and maybe voters are just shrugging off another email probe.

But even then Clinton still better hope that WikiLeaks isn’t saving the best for last.

A.B. Stoddard is associate editor of RealClearPolitics and a columnist.




I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.

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Monday, October 31, 2016 5:18 PM

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fwiw my strongest personal objections are to hillary's history of unmitigated failure of US policy - Iraq, Libya, Ukraine and Syria, and to her deeply insane provocation of Russia, which weren't mentioned in the article above. But her failures would be acceptable to me IF SHE HAD LEARNED FROM THEM. But she hasn't and she won't due to a PERSONAL failure to admit - ever - that she was wrong. And also, because she has no moral compass and her job is to cover this up so tptb, whom she serves, can continue to operate as usual.

But despite all the new information about just how phenomenally corrupt hillary is, how corrupt the government is, and how corrupt the media is, I predict she'll win, one way or another. tptb absolutely can NOT afford to let her lose.




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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I don't see this as a "stunt".


It's absolutely a "stunt", a stunt to cover his own discredited derriere after his unfathomable exoneration of Clinton in July. There's nothing else it can be called but a stunt, especially when he tosses in a nebulous connection to the investigation of sexting pedophile Anthony Weiner.

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If Comey had NOT indicated that the investigation was being re-opened, then he could also have been accused of covering up for the Clintons.

He's already been accused of that for months by half the country. I mean really, playing the Anthony Weiner card a week before the presidential election is a low blow worthy of The Jerry Springer Show.

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It's more important to me that voters go to the polls with full knowledge, instead of voting on a lie.

What "full knowledge"? Voters won't know anything that they don't already know now, except that the FBI is looking at more e-mails. The only "lie" here is that Comey's recklessness has created a media circus of unsubstantiated speculation that may unfairly and unjustifiably influence this election.

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Monday, October 31, 2016 6:31 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yes, they know the investigation has been re-opened. That's knowing more than going to the polls thinking that the investigation was closed, which would be a mis-impression of the current state of affairs.

I'm trying to put myself in the position that a candidate that I strongly support is under an investigative cloud at the time of the vote. Say, Jill is under a cloud for treason. Given the body of her work over the past few years, I don't think it wold sway my vote. Because if I really support this candidate, then I would be confident in their innocence. The only time it would sway my vote would be if I was truly undecided. But if I'm undecided, it seems to me that the doubt would have been planted a long time ago, and not just because of some late-released statement.

Yanno, it seems disingenuous for Hillary to be demanding to know what is on Huma's computer, because Hillary herself should know.




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Monday, October 31, 2016 8:34 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


As much as I am pleased about this development I think it's not in the best interest of democracy. It's fundamentally un-American to perpetrate a stunt like this on any candidate so close to an election.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/29/us/politics/fbi-hillary-clinton-emai
l.html?_r=0

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-fbi-james-c
omey-hillary-clinton-emails-0161029-story.html


I would say that whatever ordinarily is the standard public disclosure practice for opening an investigation is the one to be followed. The theory says that the FBI shouldn't comment. But I sure remember MANY investigations being made public knowledge from the start, for example Ted Kennedy's and Chappaquiddick, and Nixon's and Watergate.

In terms of internal policy or usual practice, it looks like there are two compelling dictats. One is to remain honest and the other is to not interfere with an election. But what if those come into conflict? If not interfering with an election requires dishonesty, or if honesty influences an election.

I prefer honesty. The people thought the investigation was closed. But then it reverted and is now open again. That in itself is relevant information, not because it means hillary is guilty, but because it legitimately clouds her future.




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Tuesday, November 1, 2016 2:47 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


RIVER, so you think what Comey did was a stunt?

That's not a stunt. THIS is a stunt!

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FBI Mutiny? Bureau Unexpectedly Releases Documents Related To 2001 Probe Into Clinton Foundation

In what appears to be an unexpected, and very surprising, disclosure, moments ago the FBI released 129 pages of heavily redacted records from its 15-year-old investigation into the Clinton Foundation and Bill Clinton's 11th hour pardon of financier Marc Rich (less than a week before the election).

William J. Clinton Foundation: This initial release consists of material from the FBI's files related to the Will... https://t.co/Y4nz3aRSmG

— FBI Records Vault (@FBIRecordsVault) November 1, 2016

According to the FBI, "this initial release consists of material from the FBI's files related to the William J. Clinton Foundation, a non-profit 501(c)(3) organization. The bulk of these records come from a 2001 FBI investigation into the pardon of Marc Rich (1934-2013), aka Marcell David Reich, by President Clinton in 2001; it was closed in 2005. The material is heavily redacted due to personal privacy protections and grand jury secrecy rules."

The commentariat is, in a word, shocked by what this symbolic, and impromptu release means, with some wondering if it is payback for Clinton’s blasting of the FBI.

A day after #HillaryClinton blasted the @FBI, the bureau releases 129 documents from it's 2001 probe into #BillClinton's Marc Rich pardon https://t.co/HacetE5OY0

— Tom Fitzgerald (@FitzFox5DC) November 1, 2016

A cookie for anyone who can offer a cogent defense of the timing here. https://t.co/paRuAQePTf

— Dara Lind (@DLind) November 1, 2016

Some are even calling it the first November surprise:

November surprise https://t.co/F3aTy1IEoe

— Nick Riccardi (@NickRiccardi) November 1, 2016

As the Washington Examiner notes, it was not immediately clear what prompted the FBI to publish the files Tuesday. However, the bureau posted the documents on the section of its website dedicated to records released through the Freedom of Information Act.

Is this the FBI engaging in a covert mutiny against the Clintons and the political affiliated Department of Justice? We hope to find out soon.







Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Tuesday, November 1, 2016 10:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"However, the bureau posted the documents on the section of its website dedicated to records released through the Freedom of Information Act.

Is this the FBI engaging in a covert mutiny against the Clintons and the political affiliated Department of Justice? We hope to find out soon."


Or, it could just be a FOI release. Time will tell.




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Friday, November 4, 2016 1:29 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


FBI Finds Previously Unseen Hillary Clinton Emails On Weiner's Laptop

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Crushing the hope-filled "it's just a backup of what they have already seen" narrative of a campaign clutching at straws to defend their candidate, and confirming Fox News Bret Baier's earlier reporting, CBS News reports that the FBI has found new, non-duplicate emails related to Hilary Clinton's tenure as Secretary of State on Anthony Weiner's laptop.
Sources earlier described to Fox News' Bret Baier as an "avalanche of evidence..."
And tonight we are getting further clarification, from US Officials, as to what that evidence consists of (via CBS News)

These emails, CBS News’ Andres Triay reports, are not duplicates of emails found on Secretary Clinton’s private server. At this point, however, it remains to be seen whether these emails are significant to the FBI’s investigation into Clinton. It is also not known how many relevant emails there are.

This is a major problem for the surrogates, lawyers, life-long friends, and defenders of the status quo as it destroys the narrative that has been painted suggesting these emails found on Weiner's laptop are merely backups of what law enforcement officials have already seen (and found no intent in).

But what is most intriguing is the question of whether the missing 33,000 'personal' emails 'deleted' by Bryan Pagliano in the full knowledge of Hillary Clinton (according to Wikileaks emails), are also on the estranged husband of Clinton right-hand-lady Huma Abedin's laptop.

As Federal law enforcement officials concluded to CBS News tonight: "These emails have never been seen before"

Fox's Bret Baier summed up what happens next... "I pressed again and again on this very issue... The investigations will continue, there is a lot of evidence. And barring some obstruction in some way, they believe they will continue to likely an indictment."





Well, one thing that will be interesting: IF Hillary is elected, she'll probably be indicted. And even if the Justice Dept chickens out, I'm sure the House will be willing to impeach her!



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

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Friday, November 4, 2016 4:22 AM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I was going to organize these by topic, and link and cite them, but I don't have time.

Ladies and gentlemen, straight from dnc/ Wikileaks (which didn't come from Russia), hillary's server (and evidence indicates hillary's private server may have been hacked by up to 5 separate entities), and the Weiner docs - for you perusing pleasure:



An internal investigation has reportedly been launched by the FBI into one of its automated Twitter accounts after a series of documents were released.
The Twitter bot ‘FBI Records Vault’ had not been in use for over a year, but suddenly released several documents on October 30.
The FBI is now investigating the account, according to Judd Legum, editor of Think Progress. TP is a project of the Center for American Progress, the Democratic think tank founded by John Podesta, campaign chairman for Hillary Clinton.
The account’s puzzling activation was referred to the FBI’s Inspection Division for an “investigation” by Candice Will, the assistant director for the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility. Following the investigation, it will then be referred back to Will’s department for “adjudication,” according to Legum.
A complaint is said to have been filed by Jonathan Hutson, a former employee of the Center for American Progress and a public-relations consultant, leading to the investigation.
Another FBI official, Nancy McNamara was said to have confirmed receiving Hutson’s complaint, the Think Progress report said. Legum also stated that the investigation contradicts the FBI’s official position on the Twitter bot’s activity.
“Per the standard procedure for FOIA, these materials became available for release and were posted automatically and electronically to the FBI’s public reading room in accordance with the law and established procedures,” said the FBI statement.
Documents leaked included a 129-page report on Bill Clinton’s financier Marc Rich, who the former president pardoned despite Rich’s corrupt past, as well as Donald Trump’s father, Fred, who was described as a “philanthropist.”
The disclosures happened after FBI Director James Comey released a letter to Congress last week, confirming that emails found on a computer owned by Clinton aide Huma Abedin and her husband Anthony Weiner could be linked to the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server.



“it is almost unprecedented to see a cover-up as extensive as Hillary’s. A secret meeting between Bill Clinton and the Attorney General; the FBI ignoring all evidence and initially clearing Hillary to near rebellion of the whole of the FBI, attested to by Rudolf Giuliani whose reputation as a federal prosecutor is unquestioned; the Clinton “pay for play” foundation. The Masters are troubled that this is getting out of hand.” The record shows that “the Masters do not usually have to go to such lengths to protect their own. They did manage to save Bill Clinton from the Monica Lewinsky perjury and keep him in the presidency. The Masters were not attacked in this case. They even got away with the 1987 cash settlement crash and the theft surrounding the Lehman debacle. In all these cases there were no overarching challenges to their control, as we see now open to the public by Trump. They antagonized and insulted the wrong man.”



However, in a leaked document from the latest round of Podesta emails, we learn that the Clinton campaign may have been strategizing how to "rig" the primaries as early as 2014.
In a March 2014 email from Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook to Cheryl Mills, David Plouffe and John Podesta, the democrat recounts a conversation he had with Jeffery Berman, Barack Obama's 2008 delegate guru, who would later be hired by the Clinton campaign to run the math for her primary campaign.
A quick reminder on Jeffrey Berman: as Mother Jones wrote in July 2015, when news of his hire by Clinton first emerged, "Berman brings expertise on the byzantine rules of caucus delegate counting, but he's also known as a prominent lobbyist for a project fiercely opposed by environmentalists: the Keystone pipeline."
"Hillary Clinton has hired a former lobbyist for the company behind the Keystone XL pipeline," The New Republic's Rebecca Leber wrote, "further upsetting environmentalists who have long been wary of her commitment to fighting climate change." As the Huffington Post noted, the firm Berman worked for, Bryan Cave, received $980,000 from TransCanada for lobbying work from 2009 to 2011. Berman was part of the team lobbying for the pipeline, and TransCanada paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for his share of the work.



In the Podesta email, Mook explains how Berman planned to coordinate the schedule for Democratic primaries to maximize benefit for Hillary Clinton "if she gets a significant primary challenger." In such a case, Mook writes, “we need to consider changing course and getting N.Y., N.J. and maybe others to move their dates earlier to give her hefty early wins,” Mook wrote.
And the punchline of the proposed strategy:
“We may need allies to help in this process but we’re going to look at each state one step at a time, limiting as much as possible the perception of direct intervention by the principals.” As the Observer further notes, other emails released by WikiLeaks confirmed the debate schedule was coordinated to the Clinton campaign’s preference. A recent thread revealed then-DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz was directed to hold phony meetings with other Democratic candidates to provide the Clinton campaign and DNC with plausible deniability that they were coordinating with one another.



With countless hours of media, and Clinton campaign, speculation and accusations that the source of hacked Wikileaks Democratic emails including the Podesta files, is none other than Russian president Vladimir Putin, either directly or indirectly, Julian Assange has decided to close the book on that particular loose end, and as RT reports, in a John Pilger Special, to be broadcast by RT on Saturday courtesy of Dartmouth Films, Assange categorically denied that the troves of US Democratic Party and Clinton work and staff emails released this year have come from the Russian government.
“The Clinton camp has been able to project a neo-McCarthyist hysteria that Russia is responsible for everything. Hillary Clinton has stated multiple times, falsely, that 17 US intelligence agencies had assessed that Russia was the source of our publications. That’s false – we can say that the Russian government is not the source,” Assange told the veteran Australian broadcaster as part of a 25-minute interview.



It's looking increasingly like there is an ongoing mutiny underway within the FBI as the Wall Street Journal is reporting that, according to "officials at multiple agencies", FBI agents felt they had adequate evidence, including "secret recordings of a suspect talking about the Clinton Foundation", to pursue an investigation of the Clinton Foundation but were repeatedly obstructed by officials at the Department of Justice.



Donna Brazile has drawn a lot of heat in recent weeks after WikiLeaks posted her now infamous email in which she revealed that "from time to time" she received debate questions in advance that she was seemingly happy to share with the Hillary campaign. Although there don't appear to be any new leaked debate questions in today's WikiLeaks dump, there is this response from Hillary's Director of Media Planning, Betsaida Alcantara, who seemingly shared Hillary's canned "Death Penalty" response with Donna for help on how to craft the answer.
Of course it only seems reasonable for the campaign to seek Donna's input given that she noted when she originally leaked the debate question that the "death penalty" question was one that "worries me about HRC."



Among the more prominent exchanges released in the latest, 27th, Wikileaks release of Podesta emails is a thread from March 2016 which discusses a Politico article tilted "Clintonites: How we beat Bernie on trade", and which reports that “Clinton faced internal pressure from her Brooklyn headquarters to oppose the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal she helped craft as secretary of State.”
Senior Clinton strategist, Joel Benenson, is quoted in the piece as saying:
“Voters agree that we have to compete and win in a global economy and that means we have to make things in the United States that we can sell to 95 percent of the world’s consumers who happen to live outside of the United States. What the data from the exit polls says is these voters were more aligned with her fundamental view of trade.” Clinton instead pushed back on Sanders’ opposition to the Export-Import Bank, and doubled down on the idea that America needs to compete and win in the global economy."We engaged with him on trade more forcefully," Benenson said. In the end, "I guess he came off as an economic isolationist.”
“Is Joel off reservation? Does he not get that this story makes Hillary seem politically craven at best or a liar at worse? Or if this is campaign position, can I object?”



Roughly at the same time that the WSJ reported of what is now a clear "civil war" between (and within) the FBI and the DOJ, Fox News anchor Bret Baier reported that the FBI's investigation into the Clinton Foundation that has been going on for more than a year has now taken a "very high priority." He added that FBI agents have interviewed and re-interviewed multiple people on the foundation case, which is looking into possible pay for play interaction between then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.
The FBI's White Collar Crime Division is handling the investigation, which will continue, as "there is a lot of evidence. And barring some obstruction in some way, they believe they will continue to likely an indictment."



Let's set aside Hillary Clinton as an individual and consider her as the perfection of a corrupt political system. As I noted yesterday, Politics As Usual Is Dead, and Hillary Clinton is the ultimate product of the political system that is disintegrating before our eyes.
The corruption of pay-to-play and the commingling of public and private influence is not the failing of an individual--it is the logical conclusion of a thoroughly corrupt political system.



Authorities now believe there is about a 99 percent chance that up to five foreign intelligence agencies may have accessed and taken emails from Hillary Clinton’s private server, two separate sources with intimate knowledge of the FBI investigations told Fox News.
The revelation led House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Michael McCaul to describe Clinton’s handling of her email system during her tenure as secretary of state as “treason.”
“She exposed [information] to our enemies,” McCaul said on “Fox & Friends” Thursday morning. “Our adversaries have this very sensitive information. … In my opinion, quite frankly, it’s treason.”



As far as the Clinton machine is concerned, an interlocking influence peddling pile up is the norm. John Podesta also happens to be the founder of the Center for American Progress – a George Soros operation and prime recruiting ground for Obama administration officials, including US Treasury operatives who decided which elite Too Big To Fail (TBTF) financial giants would be spared after the 2008 crisis. DCLeaks.com, for its part, has connected Soros Open Society foundations to global funding rackets directly leading to subversion of governments and outright regime change (obviously sparing Clinton Foundation donors.)
Exhibit A is this WikiLeaks bombshell; Peter Kadzik, who’s now in charge of the Department of Justice (DOJ) probe into the 650,000 emails found on the laptop shared by Clinton’s right-hand woman Huma Abedin and her estranged, pervert husband Anthony Wiener, is a Clinton asset.
Not only Kadzik was an attorney for Marc Rich when he was pardoned by Bill Clinton; Podesta – as also revealed by WikiLeaks - thanked Kadzik for keeping him “out of jail”; and it was Kadzik who gave Podesta a secret heads up on the Clinton email investigation.



It's looking increasingly like there is an ongoing mutiny underway within the FBI as the Wall Street Journal is reporting that, according to "officials at multiple agencies", FBI agents felt they had adequate evidence, including "secret recordings of a suspect talking about the Clinton Foundation", to pursue an investigation of the Clinton Foundation but were repeatedly obstructed by officials at the Department of Justice.
Secret recordings of a suspect talking about the Clinton Foundation fueled an internal battle between FBI agents who wanted to pursue the case and corruption prosecutors who viewed the statements as worthless hearsay, people familiar with the matter said.
The roots of the dispute lie in a disagreement over the strength of the case, these people said, which broadly centered on whether Clinton Foundation contributors received favorable treatment from the State Department under Hillary Clinton.
Senior officials in the Justice Department and the FBI didn’t think much of the evidence, while investigators believed they had promising leads their bosses wouldn’t let them pursue, they said.
Despite clear signals from the Justice Department to abandon the Clinton Foundation inquiries, many FBI agents refused to stand down. Then, earlier this year in February 2016, the FBI presented initial evidence at a meeting with Leslie Caldwell, the head of the DOJ's criminal division, after which agents were delivered a clear message that "we're done here." But, as the WSJ points out, DOJ became increasing frustrated with FBI agents that were "disregarding or disobeying their instructions" which subsequently prompted an emphatic "stand down" message from the DOJ to "all the offices involved."
As 2015 came to a close, the FBI and Justice Department had a general understanding that neither side would take major action on Clinton Foundation matters without meeting and discussing it first. In February, a meeting was held in Washington among FBI officials, public-integrity prosecutors and Leslie Caldwell, the head of the Justice Department’s criminal division. Prosecutors from the Eastern District of New York—Mr. Capers’ office—didn’t attend, these people said.
The public-integrity prosecutors weren’t impressed with the FBI presentation, people familiar with the discussion said. “The message was, ‘We’re done here,’ ” a person familiar with the matter said.
Justice Department officials became increasingly frustrated that the agents seemed to be disregarding or disobeying their instructions.
Following the February meeting, officials at Justice Department headquarters sent a message to all the offices involved to “stand down,’’ a person familiar with the matter said.
The FBI had secretly recorded conversations of a suspect in a public-corruption case talking about alleged deals the Clintons made, these people said. The agents listening to the recordings couldn’t tell from the conversations if what the suspect was describing was accurate, but it was, they thought, worth checking out.
Despite the warnings, FBI agents continued to press forward leading to a tense August 12th call between a "senior DOJ official" and the FBI deputy director, Andrew McCabe, which ended abruptly when McCabe bluntly asked "are you telling me that I need to shut down a validly predicated investigation?"
In subsequent conversations with the Justice Department, Mr. Capers told officials in Washington that the FBI agents on the case “won’t let it go,” these people said.
As a result of those complaints, these people said, a senior Justice Department official called the FBI deputy director, Mr. McCabe, on Aug. 12 to say the agents in New York seemed to be disregarding or disobeying their instructions, these people said. The conversation was a tense one, they said, and at one point Mr. McCabe asked, “Are you telling me that I need to shut down a validly predicated investigation?’’ The senior Justice Department official replied: ”Of course not.”
With that, it seems that we're starting to get a little more insight into why the FBI didn't "follow protocol" by alerting the DOJ before sending their most recent letter to Congress announcing the re-opening of Hillary's email investigation.
Meanwhile, Fox News reported earlier this evening that "sources" claim to have an "avalanche of evidence" in their case against Hillary and that "barring obstruction" they would continue to push for an indictment. The next 5 days should be very interesting.




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Friday, November 4, 2016 4:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

I was going to organize these by topic, and link and cite them, but I don't have time.

Ladies and gentlemen, straight from dnc/ Wikileaks (which didn't come from Russia), hillary's server (and evidence indicates hillary's private server may have been hacked by up to 5 separate entities), and the Weiner docs - for you perusing pleasure:



An internal investigation has reportedly been launched by the FBI into one of its automated Twitter accounts after a series of documents were released.
The Twitter bot ‘FBI Records Vault’ had not been in use for over a year, but suddenly released several documents on October 30.
The FBI is now investigating the account, according to Judd Legum, editor of Think Progress. TP is a project of the Center for American Progress, the Democratic think tank founded by John Podesta, campaign chairman for Hillary Clinton.
The account’s puzzling activation was referred to the FBI’s Inspection Division for an “investigation” by Candice Will, the assistant director for the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility. Following the investigation, it will then be referred back to Will’s department for “adjudication,” according to Legum.
A complaint is said to have been filed by Jonathan Hutson, a former employee of the Center for American Progress and a public-relations consultant, leading to the investigation.
Another FBI official, Nancy McNamara was said to have confirmed receiving Hutson’s complaint, the Think Progress report said. Legum also stated that the investigation contradicts the FBI’s official position on the Twitter bot’s activity.
“Per the standard procedure for FOIA, these materials became available for release and were posted automatically and electronically to the FBI’s public reading room in accordance with the law and established procedures,” said the FBI statement.
Documents leaked included a 129-page report on Bill Clinton’s financier Marc Rich, who the former president pardoned despite Rich’s corrupt past, as well as Donald Trump’s father, Fred, who was described as a “philanthropist.”
The disclosures happened after FBI Director James Comey released a letter to Congress last week, confirming that emails found on a computer owned by Clinton aide Huma Abedin and her husband Anthony Weiner could be linked to the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server.


“it is almost unprecedented to see a cover-up as extensive as Hillary’s. A secret meeting between Bill Clinton and the Attorney General; the FBI ignoring all evidence and initially clearing Hillary to near rebellion of the whole of the FBI, attested to by Rudolf Giuliani whose reputation as a federal prosecutor is unquestioned; the Clinton “pay for play” foundation. The Masters are troubled that this is getting out of hand.” The record shows that “the Masters do not usually have to go to such lengths to protect their own. They did manage to save Bill Clinton from the Monica Lewinsky perjury and keep him in the presidency. The Masters were not attacked in this case. They even got away with the 1987 cash settlement crash and the theft surrounding the Lehman debacle. In all these cases there were no overarching challenges to their control, as we see now open to the public by Trump. They antagonized and insulted the wrong man.”


However, in a leaked document from the latest round of Podesta emails, we learn that the Clinton campaign may have been strategizing how to "rig" the primaries as early as 2014.
In a March 2014 email from Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook to Cheryl Mills, David Plouffe and John Podesta, the democrat recounts a conversation he had with Jeffery Berman, Barack Obama's 2008 delegate guru, who would later be hired by the Clinton campaign to run the math for her primary campaign.
A quick reminder on Jeffrey Berman: as Mother Jones wrote in July 2015, when news of his hire by Clinton first emerged, "Berman brings expertise on the byzantine rules of caucus delegate counting, but he's also known as a prominent lobbyist for a project fiercely opposed by environmentalists: the Keystone pipeline."
"Hillary Clinton has hired a former lobbyist for the company behind the Keystone XL pipeline," The New Republic's Rebecca Leber wrote, "further upsetting environmentalists who have long been wary of her commitment to fighting climate change." As the Huffington Post noted, the firm Berman worked for, Bryan Cave, received $980,000 from TransCanada for lobbying work from 2009 to 2011. Berman was part of the team lobbying for the pipeline, and TransCanada paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for his share of the work.


In the Podesta email, Mook explains how Berman planned to coordinate the schedule for Democratic primaries to maximize benefit for Hillary Clinton "if she gets a significant primary challenger." In such a case, Mook writes, “we need to consider changing course and getting N.Y., N.J. and maybe others to move their dates earlier to give her hefty early wins,” Mook wrote.
And the punchline of the proposed strategy:
“We may need allies to help in this process but we’re going to look at each state one step at a time, limiting as much as possible the perception of direct intervention by the principals.” As the Observer further notes, other emails released by WikiLeaks confirmed the debate schedule was coordinated to the Clinton campaign’s preference. A recent thread revealed then-DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz was directed to hold phony meetings with other Democratic candidates to provide the Clinton campaign and DNC with plausible deniability that they were coordinating with one another.


With countless hours of media, and Clinton campaign, speculation and accusations that the source of hacked Wikileaks Democratic emails including the Podesta files, is none other than Russian president Vladimir Putin, either directly or indirectly, Julian Assange has decided to close the book on that particular loose end, and as RT reports, in a John Pilger Special, to be broadcast by RT on Saturday courtesy of Dartmouth Films, Assange categorically denied that the troves of US Democratic Party and Clinton work and staff emails released this year have come from the Russian government.
“The Clinton camp has been able to project a neo-McCarthyist hysteria that Russia is responsible for everything. Hillary Clinton has stated multiple times, falsely, that 17 US intelligence agencies had assessed that Russia was the source of our publications. That’s false – we can say that the Russian government is not the source,” Assange told the veteran Australian broadcaster as part of a 25-minute interview.


It's looking increasingly like there is an ongoing mutiny underway within the FBI as the Wall Street Journal is reporting that, according to "officials at multiple agencies", FBI agents felt they had adequate evidence, including "secret recordings of a suspect talking about the Clinton Foundation", to pursue an investigation of the Clinton Foundation but were repeatedly obstructed by officials at the Department of Justice.


Donna Brazile has drawn a lot of heat in recent weeks after WikiLeaks posted her now infamous email in which she revealed that "from time to time" she received debate questions in advance that she was seemingly happy to share with the Hillary campaign. Although there don't appear to be any new leaked debate questions in today's WikiLeaks dump, there is this response from Hillary's Director of Media Planning, Betsaida Alcantara, who seemingly shared Hillary's canned "Death Penalty" response with Donna for help on how to craft the answer.
Of course it only seems reasonable for the campaign to seek Donna's input given that she noted when she originally leaked the debate question that the "death penalty" question was one that "worries me about HRC."


Among the more prominent exchanges released in the latest, 27th, Wikileaks release of Podesta emails is a thread from March 2016 which discusses a Politico article tilted "Clintonites: How we beat Bernie on trade", and which reports that “Clinton faced internal pressure from her Brooklyn headquarters to oppose the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal she helped craft as secretary of State.”
Senior Clinton strategist, Joel Benenson, is quoted in the piece as saying:
“Voters agree that we have to compete and win in a global economy and that means we have to make things in the United States that we can sell to 95 percent of the world’s consumers who happen to live outside of the United States. What the data from the exit polls says is these voters were more aligned with her fundamental view of trade.” Clinton instead pushed back on Sanders’ opposition to the Export-Import Bank, and doubled down on the idea that America needs to compete and win in the global economy."We engaged with him on trade more forcefully," Benenson said. In the end, "I guess he came off as an economic isolationist.”
“Is Joel off reservation? Does he not get that this story makes Hillary seem politically craven at best or a liar at worse? Or if this is campaign position, can I object?”


Roughly at the same time that the WSJ reported of what is now a clear "civil war" between (and within) the FBI and the DOJ, Fox News anchor Bret Baier reported that the FBI's investigation into the Clinton Foundation that has been going on for more than a year has now taken a "very high priority." He added that FBI agents have interviewed and re-interviewed multiple people on the foundation case, which is looking into possible pay for play interaction between then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.
The FBI's White Collar Crime Division is handling the investigation, which will continue, as "there is a lot of evidence. And barring some obstruction in some way, they believe they will continue to likely an indictment."


Let's set aside Hillary Clinton as an individual and consider her as the perfection of a corrupt political system. As I noted yesterday, Politics As Usual Is Dead, and Hillary Clinton is the ultimate product of the political system that is disintegrating before our eyes.
The corruption of pay-to-play and the commingling of public and private influence is not the failing of an individual--it is the logical conclusion of a thoroughly corrupt political system.


Authorities now believe there is about a 99 percent chance that up to five foreign intelligence agencies may have accessed and taken emails from Hillary Clinton’s private server, two separate sources with intimate knowledge of the FBI investigations told Fox News.
The revelation led House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Michael McCaul to describe Clinton’s handling of her email system during her tenure as secretary of state as “treason.”
“She exposed [information] to our enemies,” McCaul said on “Fox & Friends” Thursday morning. “Our adversaries have this very sensitive information. … In my opinion, quite frankly, it’s treason.”


As far as the Clinton machine is concerned, an interlocking influence peddling pile up is the norm. John Podesta also happens to be the founder of the Center for American Progress – a George Soros operation and prime recruiting ground for Obama administration officials, including US Treasury operatives who decided which elite Too Big To Fail (TBTF) financial giants would be spared after the 2008 crisis. DCLeaks.com, for its part, has connected Soros Open Society foundations to global funding rackets directly leading to subversion of governments and outright regime change (obviously sparing Clinton Foundation donors.)
Exhibit A is this WikiLeaks bombshell; Peter Kadzik, who’s now in charge of the Department of Justice (DOJ) probe into the 650,000 emails found on the laptop shared by Clinton’s right-hand woman Huma Abedin and her estranged, pervert husband Anthony Wiener, is a Clinton asset.
Not only Kadzik was an attorney for Marc Rich when he was pardoned by Bill Clinton; Podesta – as also revealed by WikiLeaks - thanked Kadzik for keeping him “out of jail”; and it was Kadzik who gave Podesta a secret heads up on the Clinton email investigation.


It's looking increasingly like there is an ongoing mutiny underway within the FBI as the Wall Street Journal is reporting that, according to "officials at multiple agencies", FBI agents felt they had adequate evidence, including "secret recordings of a suspect talking about the Clinton Foundation", to pursue an investigation of the Clinton Foundation but were repeatedly obstructed by officials at the Department of Justice.
Secret recordings of a suspect talking about the Clinton Foundation fueled an internal battle between FBI agents who wanted to pursue the case and corruption prosecutors who viewed the statements as worthless hearsay, people familiar with the matter said.
The roots of the dispute lie in a disagreement over the strength of the case, these people said, which broadly centered on whether Clinton Foundation contributors received favorable treatment from the State Department under Hillary Clinton.
Senior officials in the Justice Department and the FBI didn’t think much of the evidence, while investigators believed they had promising leads their bosses wouldn’t let them pursue, they said.
Despite clear signals from the Justice Department to abandon the Clinton Foundation inquiries, many FBI agents refused to stand down. Then, earlier this year in February 2016, the FBI presented initial evidence at a meeting with Leslie Caldwell, the head of the DOJ's criminal division, after which agents were delivered a clear message that "we're done here." But, as the WSJ points out, DOJ became increasing frustrated with FBI agents that were "disregarding or disobeying their instructions" which subsequently prompted an emphatic "stand down" message from the DOJ to "all the offices involved."
As 2015 came to a close, the FBI and Justice Department had a general understanding that neither side would take major action on Clinton Foundation matters without meeting and discussing it first. In February, a meeting was held in Washington among FBI officials, public-integrity prosecutors and Leslie Caldwell, the head of the Justice Department’s criminal division. Prosecutors from the Eastern District of New York—Mr. Capers’ office—didn’t attend, these people said.
The public-integrity prosecutors weren’t impressed with the FBI presentation, people familiar with the discussion said. “The message was, ‘We’re done here,’ ” a person familiar with the matter said.
Justice Department officials became increasingly frustrated that the agents seemed to be disregarding or disobeying their instructions.
Following the February meeting, officials at Justice Department headquarters sent a message to all the offices involved to “stand down,’’ a person familiar with the matter said.
The FBI had secretly recorded conversations of a suspect in a public-corruption case talking about alleged deals the Clintons made, these people said. The agents listening to the recordings couldn’t tell from the conversations if what the suspect was describing was accurate, but it was, they thought, worth checking out.
Despite the warnings, FBI agents continued to press forward leading to a tense August 12th call between a "senior DOJ official" and the FBI deputy director, Andrew McCabe, which ended abruptly when McCabe bluntly asked "are you telling me that I need to shut down a validly predicated investigation?"
In subsequent conversations with the Justice Department, Mr. Capers told officials in Washington that the FBI agents on the case “won’t let it go,” these people said.
As a result of those complaints, these people said, a senior Justice Department official called the FBI deputy director, Mr. McCabe, on Aug. 12 to say the agents in New York seemed to be disregarding or disobeying their instructions, these people said. The conversation was a tense one, they said, and at one point Mr. McCabe asked, “Are you telling me that I need to shut down a validly predicated investigation?’’ The senior Justice Department official replied: ”Of course not.”
With that, it seems that we're starting to get a little more insight into why the FBI didn't "follow protocol" by alerting the DOJ before sending their most recent letter to Congress announcing the re-opening of Hillary's email investigation.
Meanwhile, Fox News reported earlier this evening that "sources" claim to have an "avalanche of evidence" in their case against Hillary and that "barring obstruction" they would continue to push for an indictment. The next 5 days should be very interesting.


Yeah ok, but like yanno, like she's a WOMAN, and like she's a DEMOCRAT.

All that silly stuff Kiki and Signy report here didn't happen, and even if some or all of it did happen, so what, she's like HISTORIC, yanno?

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Yeah ok, but like yanno, like she's a WOMAN, and she's a DEMOCRAT.

All that silly stuff Kiki and Signy report here didn't happen, and even if some or all of it did happen, so what, she's like HISTORIC, yanno?



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