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The media's role: altright and mainstream

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Monday, November 14, 2016 2:28 PM

SIGNYM

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STEFAN MOLYNEUX INTERVIEWS ROGER STONE

I know- two people that you know nothing about, but well-worth listening to. First of all, I have to caveat that I don't agree with Stefan Molyneux 95% of the time. But he does interview Roger Stone, who is an extremely experienced political consultant who has supported mostly Republican - but also Libertarian- candidates, WELL known for his campaign "dirty tricks". (But then, since the DNC hired provocateurs to incite violence at Trump campaigns and demonstrators are currently being bussed in, I guess dirty tricks occur on both sides.)

He was an early Trump advisor for this campaign, and although he dropped out of the campaign team in late 2015, he continued - and still continues - to be a very vocal Trump supporter. Because Roger Stone is such a "dirty tricks" afficionado, he's very good at spotting and predicting them.


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Monday, November 14, 2016 2:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


NEW YORK TIMES

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To our readers,

When the biggest political story of the year reached a dramatic and unexpected climax late Tuesday night, our newsroom turned on a dime and did what it has done for nearly two years — cover the 2016 election with agility and creativity.

After such an erratic and unpredictable election there are inevitable questions: Did Donald Trump’s sheer unconventionality lead us and other news outlets to underestimate his support among American voters? What forces and strains in America drove this divisive election and outcome? Most important, how will a president who remains a largely enigmatic figure actually govern when he takes office?

As we reflect on this week’s momentous result, and the months of reporting and polling that preceded it, we aim to rededicate ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor, striving always to understand and reflect all political perspectives and life experiences in the stories that we bring to you. It is also to hold power to account, impartially and unflinchingly. We believe we reported on both candidates fairly during the presidential campaign. You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team.

We cannot deliver the independent, original journalism for which we are known without the loyalty of our subscribers. We want to take this opportunity, on behalf of all Times journalists, to thank you for that loyalty.

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Monday, November 14, 2016 6:47 PM

RIVERLOVE


It's a little too late and way too absurd for the NY Times to do their mea culpa dance of shame. Of course they favored Clinton, not just in the editorial page, but also in their so-called hard news articles and their polling. They did the same to McCain and Romney in past elections, and they would have done no different for any Republican candidate not named Trump. It's no wonder their circulation has plummeted and their financial status teeters on bankruptcy .. again.

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Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
STEFAN MOLYNEUX INTERVIEWS ROGER STONE



See Sigs. I find this very interesting, TBH.

Though I have a degree of respect for both men, I actually find Stefan Moleneux to be very agreeable to my sensibilities and put little stock into what Roger Stone has to say.

I never knew who either one of them were before I started watching Youtube in mid-summer. I am a subscriber to both Stefan and InfoWars, although I don't bother subscribing to Roger Stone.

I won't say that Roger is full of shit, but I can think of at least 3 things he told Alex Jones was going to happen before the election from his "inside sources" that never materialized.

1. He said at one point there was no way the Establishment was going to allow a Trump victory.

2. He said that several weeks before the election there was going to be a new Hillary Attack on Trump that involved a scandal where he molested a minor.

3. He said on more than one occasion that Julian Assange was about to release a Wikileaks dump that not only would ruin Hillary's campaign, but it would land both her and her husband in jail. (That was right before his infamous "release" party where a lot of us stayed up all night and absolutely nothing happened).

4. He said several times the DNC was planning to not only ruin Trump and make him drop out, but also throw Hillary out because of her health issues. Because of this, so close to the election, Barack Obama would remain our president until at least through 2017.

5. He then changed his "prediction" about Obama reamaining in office for a 3rd term after Trump miraculously saved his campaign after the Billy Bush tape to the DNC throwing Hillary out because of her health problems and instead running an Equally-Inexperienced-As-Trump Michelle Obama in her place on the Democratic Ticket.



I just don't believe shit Roger Stone has to say. It's always interesting to hear him speak for sure, but you can't just throw everything at the wall and hope something sticks and think anybody is still going to be left to hear you when something finally does and you say "See!!!! I Told You So!!!!!!"


In my recollection, the only Good Intel he shared on InfoWars at least, was that Hillary wasn't going to shake Trumps hand in the 2nd debate. The plan was for Trump to go out and try to shake her hand and get snubbed. Anderson Cooper was then supposed to ask Hillary "spontaneously" why she didn't shake Trump's hand, and she would start the debate off by bringing up the Access Hollywood tape and painting Trump as a potential rapist out of the gates.

Was that even true? I don't know. But no doubt Trump believed that to be a possibility and they both walked out and to their podium as if neither one of them had any intention of shaking each other's hands. If it was true, who knows? Maybe of all the bad info Roger Stone spread that One Thing is what saved Trump?




On the other hand, I really like Stephan Moleneux. I trust him. I don't believe he speaks about anything without thoroughly researching the issues first, and when he does speak he comes off as very intelligent and charismatic. I've since watched many of his older videos before even the primary elections on issues that had little to nothing to do with politics at all and I rarely find things I disagree with him on.

My only gripe about Stefan really? He talks too much and his videos are too long. I can honestly watch 2 or 3 of them in a row these days rather than watch TV shows, but it's hard posting his videos here for people to watch. They're very hard to post anywhere and expect other people to listen to them. The video you posted here was over 45 minutes long, for instance. How many people do you think are going to watch it?





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Sunday, December 4, 2016 10:18 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Another MSM mea culpa, this time from Newsweek. It's about their accidental release of the "Madam President" commemorative issue, but .... even more damning... the terrible, awful writing attached to it, and how it went out without even having been reviewed by Newsweek!

The chief editor's explanation? "We subcontract out to a company ... we subcontract out these commemorative issues ... it's very common"

Very common? Which explains, of course, why the editor-in-chief didn't have anyone reviewing it? Kind of an indictment of the entire industry, sounds like to me.






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