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Dow @ 20K. Time to jump off!

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Wednesday, July 25, 2018 4:14 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Dow closed at 25,414. This is the highest close since 26 February. The 2nd highest close since January. Outside of January, the 2nd highest close in the entire history of the Dow.

This is the 9th day in a row over 25K. Which is the most, outside January.

This is 4.5% off the Record All-Time High.

Reports are that Trump won the Tariff/Trade war, EU caved in on their unfair and unbalanced trade rape of US.

NASDAQ closed at a Record All-Time High of 7,932.

S&P 500 closed at 1,846. It's highest since January.

Despite the persistent delusions of some folk, the GDP report, to be released this week, usually has an effect on the Market. The Market which anybody can partake in.
So if we knew the Market would gain in value in the next week, we could ride that gain and increase our personal funds.

Thursday the Jobless Claims are reported.

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Wednesday, July 25, 2018 4:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Although a lot of people would be relieved if it drops to 22,623 before rebounding.


Perhaps I should point out, here in the moment: these are the days of making the largest gains in funds. Buying at a discount of 6% can get an easy gain on bounce back, in a matter of days instead of the 55 days it recently took to scale this mountain of stock value.
And if it can drop to 22,623 then the rebound can only be reasonably expected to be 5% to 10% of the all-time high, so buying at the end of Monday could still result in a loss.
But regardless, whenever the market hits the best bargain price, that is when the common trader has the greatest opportunity to grow their funds. Although this volatility is just noise, the potential for growth is far greater than days of a couple hundred point gains.

This was posted on 6 Feb. I should try to post it at top of page for convenience, since a lot of noise has been posted since then.

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Wednesday, July 25, 2018 4:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Alright, so let's take a moment to explore the scenario if the Libtard view actually wasn't a delusion.

Their premise is that the real actual value of the Market is represented by Dow 15,000.
So then 26,616 is an actual overevaluation of 11,616 - or 177% of the true value. That may well be a historical record.
So if Dow goes no higher than that during this cycle, then a drop to 22,623 will signal onset of a Bear Market cycle. The rebound will go to about 23,954 - 25,285 range and then drop. A Bear Market drop always bottoms far below the true value of a stock, so the Dow would at this point bottom out around 8,000 - 12,000. The would represent a drop of 55% - 70%. Such a large drop gives investors plenty of time or range to recognize the drop and exit their stocks, before the bottom price is available to buy back in for massive gains - doubling or tripling your fund value. Unless the Libtard duplicates 2008 and keeps all their money in the Market until they've lost 60% of their life savings. So what are the Libtards panicking about? Their scenario provides the best possible outcome for their funds!

By comparison OTOH, if the Libtards are delusional and the Stock Market is the Real World, then a couple extreme possibilities can be presented.
One is that, for no reason, the current high of 26,616 remains the peak of this cycle. The drop to trigger remains the same as above, as well as the rebound range. But then the bottom would be more like 17,740 (67%) or we could hope for 13,300 (50%). The discount price for buying back in would not be as big of a bargain, plus the time of range of drop would be more brief, so exiting the fund would be more time critical, allowing for less dilly-dallying. And then the recovery gains would only be 30 - 50%.
The other possibility would be that the explanation for Obamanomics which I posted earlier in this thread are correct. The Market will continue to climb, for up to 8 years, before moving to Bear Market.
By that time most folk would have forgotten about Libtard delusional theories.

Another repost, for convenience. From 8 Feb.

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Wednesday, July 25, 2018 4:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Top-of-the-Page reposting, from 22 May:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Dow closed today at 23,533. A drop of 1.7% today. This is 11.6% off the Record All-Time High. Hard to beat a discount price like this to buy in at. Buffet must be buying like crazy about now.
The Dow closed at 23,860 on 8 February.
Dow closed at 23,539 on 4 November 2017.
Dow closed at 23,516 on 3 November 2017.

Today Trump signed the Cramnibus Spendaholic bill, largest spending bill in history, to last until September if this year, 6 months from now.


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Although a lot of people would be relieved if it drops to 22,623 before rebounding.


Perhaps I should point out, here in the moment: these are the days of making the largest gains in funds. Buying at a discount of 6% can get an easy gain on bounce back, in a matter of days instead of the 55 days it recently took to scale this mountain of stock value.
And if it can drop to 22,623 then the rebound can only be reasonably expected to be 5% to 10% of the all-time high, so buying at the end of Monday could still result in a loss.
But regardless, whenever the market hits the best bargain price, that is when the common trader has the greatest opportunity to grow their funds. Although this volatility is just noise, the potential for growth is far greater than days of a couple hundred point gains.



This was posted 23 March, with the lowest close of the Dow in 2018, at 23,533.
Prior to 4 November 2017 the Dow had never closed higher than 23,516.

Today Dow closed at 24,834.


The within quote was from 6 Feb. Folk can't say I didn't provide the recipe in time.

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Wednesday, July 25, 2018 7:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I should probably post my own thread about the bullshit GDP numbers since you worked so hard to get that data buried today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 26, 2018 4:15 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed at 25,527. This is the 10th day in a row over 25K.

This is 4.2% off the Record All-Time High.

Tomorrow is the Economy report with GDP.

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Saturday, July 28, 2018 9:58 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed Friday at 25,451. This is the second day in a row over 25,450, for the first time since January.

And 11th day in a row over 25K, again the most since January.


The first time Dow closed over 25K was in January. It remained over 25K for 21 trading days in a row.
The first 9 days it remained under 26K.

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Monday, July 30, 2018 9:35 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,306. 12th day in a row over 25K.

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Monday, July 30, 2018 10:40 PM

JO753

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Putin iz dumping Russia'z stake in America. Probably kuz he knowz sumthing.

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Monday, July 30, 2018 11:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Putin iz dumping Russia'z stake in America. Probably kuz he knowz sumthing.

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That's a good thing, right?

Citations?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:20 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed at 25,415 today. The 13th day in a row over 25K.

This is the 4th highest close since January.

The Jobs Report is released on Friday.

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Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:03 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,333. This is the 14th day in a row over 25K.

Tomorrow Jobless Claims are reported.

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Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed at 25,327 today. The 15th day in a row over 25K. Which is the 2nd longest streak in the history of the Dow.

This is also the 8th day in a row closing over 25,300.

NASDAQ closed over 7,800 again.

S&P 500 closed at 2,826. It's 3rd highest close since January.

Tomorrow is the Jobs Report, expected to be even better than last month.

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Thursday, August 2, 2018 9:11 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by Riverlove:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Should we still jump off?
Yesterday's close was about 21,454.
Looks like all time high of 21,535 was on June 19.


I'm not. My stock portfolio is up about 18% since Trump was elected. Corporate earnings remain strong, but as we've seen before, things can turn ugly real fast. Best way to protect your investment and your profits is with stop-sell orders. If prices rise you can adjust the threshold upwards. If prices drop, your sell order kicks in and your loss is minimized.




You guys are so full of shit. Your investments my ass. You act as though Trump saved us all. He's riding on Obamas' success. When President Obama took office on Jan. 20, 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was 7,949.09. As of the end of Obama's term on January 20, 2017, the Dow was 19,732.40




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Friday, August 3, 2018 9:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,462. This is 16th day in a row over 25K, and the 9th in a row over 25,300. And the 3rd highest close since January.

S&P 500 closed at 2,840. The 2nd highest since January.


Also, CBO issues Monthly Review on 7 August.

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Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:26 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Should we still jump off?
Yesterday's close was about 21,454.
Looks like all time high of 21,535 was on June 19.


I'm not. My stock portfolio is up about 18% since Trump was elected. Corporate earnings remain strong, but as we've seen before, things can turn ugly real fast. Best way to protect your investment and your profits is with stop-sell orders. If prices rise you can adjust the threshold upwards. If prices drop, your sell order kicks in and your loss is minimized.




You guys are so full of shit. Your investments my ass. You act as though Trump saved us all. He's riding on Obamas' success. When President Obama took office on Jan. 20, 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was 7,949.09. As of the end of Obama's term on January 20, 2017, the Dow was 19,732.40




T



Obama didn't have any success. The DOW has been doing very well for quite a long time because of quantitative easing, and continues to do well under Trump.

The disconnect of the DOW's success alongside the bad economy and job market is directly attributed to the terrible FED decisions that were made during the Obama Administration and will only continue to get worse.




And what do you mean by "you guys" anyhow?

JSF is the only one rallying around the DOW and how great Trump is here. I've argued him every step of the way, J0 pops in to say something every once in a while and nobody else pretty much posts in this thread.

Do Right, Be Right. :)




EDIT: Oh.... I see.

You're referencing a discussion made during the middle of 2017 on the first page of this thread. lol

I don't think Riverfan has even posted here for over a year now.

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Saturday, August 4, 2018 9:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by Riverlove:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Should we still jump off?
Yesterday's close was about 21,454.
Looks like all time high of 21,535 was on June 19.

I'm not. My stock portfolio is up about 18% since Trump was elected.

You guys are so full of shit. Your investments my ass. You act as though Trump saved us all.


Obama didn't have any success. The DOW has been doing very well for quite a long time because of quantitative easing, and continues to do well under Trump.


JSF is the only one rallying around the DOW and how great Trump is here.

I'm not sure if you are merely oversimplifying in your summary by intent, or if you really do not comprehend the purpose of my posts in this thread started with the premise that you should sell when prices are low, meaning you will buy when prices are high.

I have indicated, consistently, that you should buy at the low point of a rising Market. You should not sell at the low point, such as 20K Dow. You should wait until the high point to sell, as I have done in the past.

I am not trumpeting the greatness of Trump, exactly. I am pointing out the vast benefits of NOT Obamanomics. Trump is merely breeding success by following known and proven practices and policies, such as those from the example of Reaganomics.

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Sunday, August 5, 2018 7:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I'm not sure if you are merely oversimplifying in your summary by intent, or if you really do not comprehend the purpose of my posts in this thread started with the premise that you should sell when prices are low, meaning you will buy when prices are high.

I have indicated, consistently, that you should buy at the low point of a rising Market. You should not sell at the low point, such as 20K Dow. You should wait until the high point to sell, as I have done in the past.

I am not trumpeting the greatness of Trump, exactly. I am pointing out the vast benefits of NOT Obamanomics. Trump is merely breeding success by following known and proven practices and policies, such as those from the example of Reaganomics.



The continued success of the DOW has little to do with anything that Trump has done. As T correctly stated, the DOW increased 11,000 pts in Obama's 8 years.

I'm sure that things like the tax cuts that did disproportionaly benefit the rich and just the fact that the GOP is running the White House currently is helping the DOW go up even quicker in only 2 years, but most of the continued increase is because FED rates are still next to nothing, and quantative easing is the proverbial shit that can't be put back into the horse.

Eventually, the DOW will crash again, and I don't know if there are many tricks are left to save everything at this point.

My prediction is the next DOW crash will result in the death of the Petrodollar, and if you think gas prices are expensive now, just wait until that happens.

I'm hoping that it doesn't happen during Trump's administration because that will be the end of Republican presidents for a very long time.




I will state, that other than the fact that Trump stopped being honest about the economy when he was elected, he won't be directly to blame if it does crash during his presidency any more than Obama or GWB or even Bill Clinton were.... but with all the negative anti-Trump stuff out here today you know that he's going to shoulder 100% of the blame when the MSM gets their hands on that story.

At least in public opinion.... the arena where perception of reality is a lot more powerful and important than actual reality.


If I were Trump, that would keep me up every night worrying about when the bottom's going to fall out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 5, 2018 11:07 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I'm not sure if you are merely oversimplifying in your summary by intent, or if you really do not comprehend the purpose of my posts in this thread started with the premise that you should sell when prices are low, meaning you will buy when prices are high.

I have indicated, consistently, that you should buy at the low point of a rising Market. You should not sell at the low point, such as 20K Dow. You should wait until the high point to sell, as I have done in the past.

I am not trumpeting the greatness of Trump, exactly. I am pointing out the vast benefits of NOT Obamanomics. Trump is merely breeding success by following known and proven practices and policies, such as those from the example of Reaganomics.


The continued success of the DOW has little to do with anything that Trump has done. As T correctly stated, the DOW increased 11,000 pts in Obama's 8 years.

I don't know why you persist in selectively plucking numbers out of context. Just because the Troll you quoted selectively plucked the middle part of an exchange that he lost does not mean you must follow suit, unless you are a lemming.
The Democraps allowed the Dow to increase from 14,000 to the 18,332 on the day Doom was Defeated in the 2016 Election. They drove it down from 14,000 to 6,547 in March 2009 - I don't know why you consider that such a great accomplishment. That Obama can take credit for driving it down from 9,625 after Rock-The-Vote Democraps started the ball rolling, and got it down to 6,547 is the pink elephant you seem to ignore. They didn't even allow it to return, until Democraps were Expelled from Congressional majority in the 2010 Election.

That is a gain of 4,300 in 9 years. A feat which only took part of a year under Trump (3 Oct was 4,300 higher than Election Day - less than 11 months, 30 November was 4,500 higher that Inauguration - 10 months and 10 days). Dow gained 8,284 from Trump's Election to Jan 26, 2018 - less than 15 months.

From 9,625 on Election Day 2008 to 18,332 on Election Day 2016 is a gain of 8,707 in 8 years. 7,144 of which occurred under GOP control of Congress.

Clearly, your perspective is induced by something illegal.


Bear Markets are part of the market cycle, always have been.

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Sunday, August 5, 2018 11:14 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by Riverlove:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Should we still jump off?
Yesterday's close was about 21,454.
Looks like all time high of 21,535 was on June 19.


I'm not. My stock portfolio is up about 18% since Trump was elected. Corporate earnings remain strong, but as we've seen before, things can turn ugly real fast. Best way to protect your investment and your profits is with stop-sell orders. If prices rise you can adjust the threshold upwards. If prices drop, your sell order kicks in and your loss is minimized.


You guys are so full of shit. Your investments my ass. You act as though Trump saved us all. He's riding on Obamas' success. When President Obama took office on Jan. 20, 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was 7,949.09. As of the end of Obama's term on January 20, 2017, the Dow was 19,732.40

Obama's "success" - for koolaid drinkers.

On Oct 12, 2007 - just before the Rock The Vote Democraps who took majority of the House had their disastrous first budget take full effect (FY2008) - Dow closed 14,093. Bush had been in office for 6 years.
On Nov 4, 2008 - Election Day - Dow closed at 9,625. A drop of 32% in 13 months that the Rock The Vote Democraps can take credit for.
On Nov 5, 2008 - Black Wednesday, when the results were learned (American voters chose the path of further economic disaster) - Dow closed at 9,139. A drop of 5% in one day which Bobo can take credit for.
By Jan 19, 2009 the impending doom had driven the Dow to 8,279 at close - a drop of another 9.5% since Nov 5 (76 days). Bobo can take credit for this.
On Jan 20, 2009 the Dow dropped another 4% in this single day. A drop of 17.5% since the day of the election. Bobo can take credit for this also.
On Mar 9, 2009 the Dow closed at 6,547. A drop of 21% in Bobo's first 48 days in office. Yep, Obama can take credit for this also. Total of 32% loss since Election Day, matching the loss of a whole year of Democraps in charge (with only Bush43 to reign them in). And a loss of 53% in only 1 year, 4 months since Democraps took control of the Fed Budget.

On November 2, 2010 - Election Day - the Dow closed at 11,188. It had crept up 1,563 points since Obama was elected. Or 16% in 2 years. This is the rate of growth that Bobo could take credit for. Still 2,905 less than before Democraps had taken control of the Federal Budget.
On 27 Jan, 2011 - when the new Congress had taken their seats, discharging the Democrap majorities - Dow closed at 11,989. A gain of 801 points in only 3 months since the election, and only a few weeks in office - despite Bobo still occupying the White House. Can't see Bobo taking credit for the GOP's gains - oops, that's right, Bobo did take credit where not due.

By Jan 20, 2017 - with 6 years of GOP control of Congress, the Dow had gained 76%, despite Bobo still occupying the White House.
By Jun 19, 2017 the Dow achieved 21,535. A gain of 1,803 point and over 9% in only the first 5 months of Trump taking office.

Apparently memories need to be refreshed.

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Monday, August 6, 2018 6:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,502. This is the 17th day in a row over 25K, and 10th in a row over 25,300.

This is the 3rd highest Dow close since January. This is 4.2% off the Record All-Time High.

NASDAQ had the 2nd highest close in history at 7,859.

S&P 500 also had it's 2nd highest close in history at 2,850 - only topped by the peak in January.

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Tuesday, August 7, 2018 5:57 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,628. That is the highest close since 26 February, and the 2nd highest close since January.

That is the 18th day in a row over 25k, and the 11th day in a row over 25,300.

That is 3.7% off the Record All-Time High.


NASDAQ closed at 7,883. Yet again the 2nd highest close in history, after the peak in recent weeks.

S&P 500 closed at 2,858. Yet again the 2nd highest close in history, and the highest since January.

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Thursday, August 9, 2018 2:07 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed at 25,583 on Wednesday. That is the 19th day in a row above 25K and the 12th day in a row over 25,300.

NASDAQ closed at 7,888. Again the 2nd highest close in history.

Tomorrow the Jobless Claims come out.

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Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed at 25,509 today. That is the 20th day in a row over 25K and the 13th over 25,300.
The other time Dow had a streak over 25K wasc January, when the streak lasted 21 days.

NASDAQ closed at 7,891. Again, the 2nd highest close in history.

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Friday, August 10, 2018 4:24 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,313. That is the 21st day in a row over 25K, which is tied for the most in history.
It is also the 14th in a row closing over 25,300.



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Monday, August 13, 2018 7:11 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,187. That is the 22nd trading day in a row over 25K. That is the longest period over 25K in the entire history of the Dow.

Perhaps your chance to lose money by Jumping Off at less than 80% of the Market Value, aka 20K, has passed by. Opportunities to fail to earn 25% via this method have maybe expired.

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Tuesday, August 14, 2018 6:47 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,299. This is the 23rd day in a row over 25K.

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Wednesday, August 15, 2018 7:01 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,162. This is the 24th day in a row above 25K, starting with 13 July.

Tomorrow the Jobless Claims are reported.

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Thursday, August 16, 2018 5:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,558. That is the 25th close in a row over 25K.

This is the 2nd highest since February.

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Friday, August 17, 2018 5:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,669. That is the 26th day in a row over 25K.

This is about the 17th highest close in the entire history of the Dow. This is the 2nd highest close since January, and the highest since 26 February.

About an hour before close Dow was trading at 25,728. This was about 20 higher than the 26 February close, which is the highest since January.


S&P 500 closed at 2,850. That is it's 5th highest close in history, and the highest since 9 August.


Maybe the Chicken Littles should Jump Jump Jump Off and run for the hills.

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Monday, August 20, 2018 8:10 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,758. This is 3.2% off the Record All-Time High. This is the 27th day in a row over 26K.

This is the 15th highest Close in the entire history of the Dow, and the highest since January. Outside of January, this is the highest close in Dow history.

We should probably panic now, obviously the Market will crash when the Dow gets up to 20K.

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Monday, August 20, 2018 8:20 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
A gy hoo uzed to hav a seat on the Chicago Stock Exchanje told me he'd be doing indexez if he wuz still a trader.

Yup, this was 17 July with Dow at 25,121.

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Tuesday, August 21, 2018 12:15 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
This opinionator sez take your winningz and leave the table.

This is 13 February when Nostradoofus struck again. Dow was at 24,601.

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Tuesday, August 21, 2018 7:35 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,822. This is 3% off the Record All-Time High. This is the 28th day in a row over 25K.

This is the 13th highest Close in the entire history of the Dow. The only Closes higher than this were over 26K, in January.

S&P 500 closed at 2,862. This is 2nd only to the Record All-Time High in January. During the trading session, it traded at 2,873 - which is the highest ever.

NASDAQ closed at 7,859. This is the 6th highest in the history of the index, all of the other 5 in the past month.


We should probably all Jump Off for fear that we might make too much income as the Market continues to gain.

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Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

We should probably all Jump Off for fear that we might make too much income as the Market continues to gain.

Would you be interested in an indicator with more 100 years of history, an excellent record at calling multi-generational tops in the U.S. stock market, and which has just flashed only its sixth sell signal since 1895?
www.marketwatch.com/story/the-stock-markets-latest-sell-signal-has-hap
pened-only-5-other-times-since-1895-2018-08-21


To be sure, this risk indicator is not a short-term market timing tool. In the wake of past occasions when it rose above 2.0, equities stayed high or even continued rising for many months. However, in all cases, a major decline or crash followed, pulling down stock prices by 50% or more.

Are you willing and able to stick with your current equity exposure through the next bear market?
www.marketwatch.com/story/what-the-next-bear-market-will-look-like-201
8-08-21



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, August 22, 2018 6:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,733. This is the 29th trading day in a row above 25K.
This is the 3rd highest Close since January, just behind the last 2 days. And the 17th highest Close in history.


NASDAQ closed at 7,889. This is the 3rd highest Close in history.

S&P 500 closed at 2,861. This is the 3rd highest Close in history.


Tomorrow the Jobless Claims are reported. Next Tuesday the Economic Report is released.

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Wednesday, August 22, 2018 7:30 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
We should probably all Jump Off for fear that we might make too much income as the Market continues to gain.

Would you be interested in an indicator with more 100 years of history, an excellent record at calling multi-generational tops in the U.S. stock market, and which has just flashed only its sixth sell signal since 1895?
www.marketwatch.com/story/the-stock-markets-latest-sell-signal-has-hap
pened-only-5-other-times-since-1895-2018-08-21


To be sure, this risk indicator is not a short-term market timing tool. In the wake of past occasions when it rose above 2.0, equities stayed high or even continued rising for many months. However, in all cases, a major decline or crash followed, pulling down stock prices by 50% or more.

Are you willing and able to stick with your current equity exposure through the next bear market?
www.marketwatch.com/story/what-the-next-bear-market-will-look-like-201
8-08-21


Do you even bother to make a pretense of reading any of the Manure that you post? Are you illiterate? Or you just hope the rest of us are retarded enough to fall for your useless lying drivel?

That chart shows that there was no signal during the Jiminy Cotta disastrous economy of the late 70s. And after the 60s, the only sell signal started around 1997, when the Dow was around 7,000. The next (and only) drop of 50% following the 1960s was the Rock-The-Vote Democrap Recession starting with FY2008 (October 2007, at 14,000) and completing the Bear slide on 9 March 2009, at under 6,000.
In between 1997 and 2007 the Dow went from 7,000 to the verge of 12,000 (gain of 70%) by April 2000, then after April 2001 down to about 7,400 (still above the 7,000 level of 1997) by around 2002/2003, and then back up to 14,000 (another gain of almost 100% since 2003, or a gain of 100% since 1997) in October 2007 before the Rock-The-Vote Democraps placed their very first Federal Budget into effect.

By the time 2005 rolled around, that chart was not even signalling to sell anymore.

What kind of retard would consider this pile of manure to be useful? What sort of Institution of Mental Defectives does this Cardiff clown work at? Oh, golly, he pretends to be Employed at a College? How shocking!

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Wednesday, August 22, 2018 8:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

What kind of retard would consider this pile of manure to be useful? What sort of Institution of Mental Defectives does this Cardiff clown work at? Oh, golly, he pretends to be Employed at a College? How shocking!

I see you are pretty damn sure there won't be a bear market. Good luck with that conviction! But you completely missed that Mark Hulbert, who has been publishing a newsletter since 1980 that looks at the track record of all stock market advisers, knows that there will be a bear market, just not right now. http://hulbertratings.com/

What happened the last time the indicator rose above the 2.0 level, which was in 1998? That market bubble burst in March 2000. I made a ton of money buying all those cheap stocks from desperate sellers and I am looking forward to doing it again in a couple of years from the optimistic owners of today's high priced stocks who will be the fearful sellers of the future's low priced stocks.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:41 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
We should probably all Jump Off for fear that we might make too much income as the Market continues to gain.

Would you be interested in an indicator with more 100 years of history, an excellent record at calling multi-generational tops in the U.S. stock market, and which has just flashed only its sixth sell signal since 1895?
www.marketwatch.com/story/the-stock-markets-latest-sell-signal-has-hap
pened-only-5-other-times-since-1895-2018-08-21


To be sure, this risk indicator is not a short-term market timing tool. In the wake of past occasions when it rose above 2.0, equities stayed high or even continued rising for many months. However, in all cases, a major decline or crash followed, pulling down stock prices by 50% or more.

Are you willing and able to stick with your current equity exposure through the next bear market?
www.marketwatch.com/story/what-the-next-bear-market-will-look-like-201
8-08-21


Do you even bother to make a pretense of reading any of the Manure that you post? Are you illiterate? Or you just hope the rest of us are retarded enough to fall for your useless lying drivel?

That chart shows that there was no signal during the Jiminy Cotta disastrous economy of the late 70s. And after the 60s, the only sell signal started around 1997, when the Dow was around 7,000. The next (and only) drop of 50% following the 1960s was the Rock-The-Vote Democrap Recession starting with FY2008 (October 2007, at 14,000) and completing the Bear slide on 9 March 2009, at under 6,000.
In between 1997 and 2007 the Dow went from 7,000 to the verge of 12,000 (gain of 70%) by April 2000, then after April 2001 down to about 7,400 (still above the 7,000 level of 1997) by around 2002/2003, and then back up to 14,000 (another gain of almost 100% since 2003, or a gain of 100% since 1997) in October 2007 before the Rock-The-Vote Democraps placed their very first Federal Budget into effect.

By the time 2005 rolled around, that chart was not even signalling to sell anymore.

What kind of retard would consider this pile of manure to be useful? What sort of Institution of Mental Defectives does this Cardiff clown work at? Oh, golly, he pretends to be Employed at a College? How shocking!

One version of second's delusion.

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Wednesday, August 22, 2018 9:42 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
What kind of retard would consider this pile of manure to be useful? What sort of Institution of Mental Defectives does this Cardiff clown work at? Oh, golly, he pretends to be Employed at a College? How shocking!

I see you are pretty damn sure there won't be a bear market. Good luck with that conviction! But you completely missed that Mark Hulbert, who has been publishing a newsletter since 1980 that looks at the track record of all stock market advisers, knows that there will be a bear market, just not right now. http://hulbertratings.com/

What happened the last time the indicator rose above the 2.0 level, which was in 1998? That market bubble burst in March 2000. I made a ton of money buying all those cheap stocks from desperate sellers and I am looking forward to doing it again in a couple of years from the optimistic owners of today's high priced stocks who will be the fearful sellers of the future's low priced stocks.

And the other, opposite version.

Unless a Libtard can believe that a loss of 38.3% from the Record All-Time High is equal to "at least 50%" that is.

Or, allowing us to swerve into reality for a brief moment, dropping from about 12,000 in March 2000 to about 11,500 in May 2001 (a drop of a whopping 4%) is what second considers a "burst" of the Market.

How insipid must somebody be to think a 4% loss is a burst, or is equal to "at least 50%" as he stipulated.

Most adults understand that a 4% dip after 1270% gain is a minor blip, merely noise.

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Thursday, August 23, 2018 6:08 AM

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JewelStaiteFan, despite this thread being titled "Dow @ 20K", use the S&P 500, not the Dow Jones, which only losers use for measuring the market. Berkshire Hathaway, which is not run by losers, measures its performance versus the S&P, not the Dow.
www.berkshirehathaway.com/reports.html

Do you notice any peaks and troughs in the numbers for the S&P?

3/24/2000 1527.46
10/9/2002 776.76
10/9/2007 1565.15
3/9/2009 676.53
Yesterday 2861.82
www.yardeni.com/pub/sp500corrbeartables.pdf

Are you certain the market can’t drop to 1400 from yesterday’s closing?

JewelStaiteFan, I never know who is buying high and selling low, who bought near the peak and sold near the trough when I purchase cheap stocks. But during the next bear market, it could be you, especially if you get your politics confused with the stock market. The stock market can be in a bear market even when Trump is in the White House.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

One version of second's delusion.

Trump shares the delusion. He warns, in an exclusive interview with Fox News' Ainsley Earhardt:
“If I ever got impeached, I think the market would crash, I think everybody would be very poor, because without this thinking, you would see — you would see numbers that you wouldn’t believe in reverse.”

www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/23/trump-declares-market-would-crash-
if-democrats-impeached-him.html


I like the idea of Trump being impeached; the market crashes; I buy cheap stocks sold in a panic by Republicans; I make a fortune when the stocks go up again. Make America Great Again!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 23, 2018 7:08 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,656. This is the 30th trading day in a row over 25K.

This is the 6th highest close since January.

S&P 500 closed at 2,856. This is the 7th highest in history.

NASDAQ closed at 7,878. This is the 5th highest in history.

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Thursday, August 23, 2018 7:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
One version of second's delusion.

Trump shares the delusion. He warns, in an exclusive interview with Fox News' Ainsley Earhardt:
“If I ever got impeached, I think the market would crash, I think everybody would be very poor, because without this thinking, you would see — you would see numbers that you wouldn’t believe in reverse.”

www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/23/trump-declares-market-would-crash-
if-democrats-impeached-him.html


I like the idea of Trump being impeached; the market crashes; I buy cheap stocks sold in a panic by Republicans; I make a fortune when the stocks go up again. Make America Great Again!

Here second displays his logic failure.
Second claims that Trump shares second's delusion that the Market will crash regardless of whatever Trump does, because a useless chart indicates it will.
The facts, however, show that Trump actually said that the Market will crash if Trump is impeached, which makes clear that if Trump suffers any delusion, it is not the same as this delusion of second's.

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Thursday, August 23, 2018 8:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Here second displays his logic failure.
Second claims that Trump shares second's delusion that the Market will crash regardless of whatever Trump does, because a useless chart indicates it will.
The facts, however, show that Trump actually said that the Market will crash if Trump is impeached, which makes clear that if Trump suffers any delusion, it is not the same as this delusion of second's.

Hey, JSF, I showed that the market has crashed landed in 2002 and 2009. Can you prove it can’t happen to Trump?

Trump can also be wrong about the market crashing when he is impeached. As proved by Clinton’s impeachment and Nixon’s Watergate, the President can be in deep trouble without the stock market crashing. The fate of a President and the crashing of a market are not connected.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, August 23, 2018 9:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Here second displays his logic failure.
Second claims that Trump shares second's delusion that the Market will crash regardless of whatever Trump does, because a useless chart indicates it will.
The facts, however, show that Trump actually said that the Market will crash if Trump is impeached, which makes clear that if Trump suffers any delusion, it is not the same as this delusion of second's.

Hey, JSF, I showed that the market has crashed landed in 2002 and 2009. Can you prove it can’t happen to Trump?

Trump can also be wrong about the market crashing when he is impeached. As proved by Clinton’s impeachment and Nixon’s Watergate, the President can be in deep trouble without the stock market crashing. The fate of a President and the crashing of a market are not connected.

Geez, are you easily confused. A removal from office of either Clinton or Obama would have been a boon to the Market. At least until the reality of POTUS algore or Joe BiteMe sunk in.

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Thursday, August 23, 2018 10:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
JewelStaiteFan, despite this thread being titled "Dow @ 20K", use the S&P 500, not the Dow Jones, which only losers use for measuring the market. Berkshire Hathaway, which is not run by losers, measures its performance versus the S&P, not the Dow.
www.berkshirehathaway.com/reports.html

Do you notice any peaks and troughs in the numbers for the S&P?

3/24/2000 1527.46
10/9/2002 776.76
10/9/2007 1565.15
3/9/2009 676.53
Yesterday 2861.82
www.yardeni.com/pub/sp500corrbeartables.pdf

Are you certain the market can’t drop to 1400 from yesterday’s closing?

JewelStaiteFan, I never know who is buying high and selling low, who bought near the peak and sold near the trough when I purchase cheap stocks. But during the next bear market, it could be you, especially if you get your politics confused with the stock market. The stock market can be in a bear market even when Trump is in the White House.

Why do you insist upon displaying how incompetent your math is?
Look, we get it.
We understand you are stupid enough to be a Libtard.
You don't need to detail every day that your Libtard Maths are up to the standard of failure.
You may rest assured that we fully comprehend that if you skip a day of displaying the depths of your incompetence, we can still conjure that you really did continue to be a Libtard on that interim day.
We already understand all this.
You don't need to show us how moronic you are every day.
The non-Libtards can easily cypher that a drop from 1527 to 776 is not "at least 50%" as you have claimed.
Avoiding Libtard Maths can show that a drop of 50% would be less than 764.
Maybe when you get over your aversion to facts, or your adoration of Libtardism, you can suss out the possibility of not being so insipid.


Looks like it was around 1,000 in 1998. So this useless indicator would help anybody avoid a gain of 52% from 1998 to 2000, and help avoid a loss of 23% over 4 years from 1K down to 776.
But it completely missed the far greater loss of October 2007 to March 2009.

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Friday, August 24, 2018 7:49 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Why do you insist upon displaying how incompetent your math is?
Look, we get it.
We understand you are stupid enough to be a Libtard.
You don't need to detail every day that your Libtard Maths are up to the standard of failure.
You may rest assured that we fully comprehend that if you skip a day of displaying the depths of your incompetence, we can still conjure that you really did continue to be a Libtard on that interim day.
We already understand all this.

Trump declared himself the Sun whose light makes the stock prices grow. Without him, the stock market would shrivel and die:

Trump declares 'market would crash' if Democrats impeached him.

“Had Hillary and the Democrats gotten in, had she been president, you would have had negative growth. We picked up $10 trillion in worth.”

www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/23/trump-declares-market-would-crash-
if-democrats-impeached-him.html


All credit for the bull run goes to Trump, the hero of Wall Street! It must be true because he rates himself an “A plus.” So modest is Trump because there are higher bond ratings than A+. There is AA and AAA, which is Trump's true rating. He is that good.

“I don’t know how you can impeach somebody who’s done a great job,” Trump said, in the interview which aired Thursday on "Fox & Friends."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, August 24, 2018 7:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Dow closed today at 25,790. This is the 31st day in a row over 25K, more than 6 weeks. This is the 2nd highest close since January, and the 16th highest in the history of the Dow. This is the 7th trading day in a row over 25,500.

This is 3.1% off the Record All-Time High.

S&P500 closed at 2,874. That is a new Record All-Time High.

NASDAQ closed at 7,945. That is a new Record All-Time High.


We should all probably Jump Off, because every Libtard and Chicken Little knows the only way to go now is down.

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Saturday, August 25, 2018 1:43 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
What kind of retard would consider this pile of manure to be useful? What sort of Institution of Mental Defectives does this Cardiff clown work at? Oh, golly, he pretends to be Employed at a College? How shocking!

I see you are pretty damn sure there won't be a bear market. Good luck with that conviction! But you completely missed that Mark Hulbert, who has been publishing a newsletter since 1980 that looks at the track record of all stock market advisers, knows that there will be a bear market, just not right now. http://hulbertratings.com/

What happened the last time the indicator rose above the 2.0 level, which was in 1998? That market bubble burst in March 2000. I made a ton of money buying all those cheap stocks from desperate sellers and I am looking forward to doing it again in a couple of years from the optimistic owners of today's high priced stocks who will be the fearful sellers of the future's low priced stocks.

BTW, I predict there will be a Bear Market in the next 12 years. But not in the next 4 months. If Trump is President for 6 more years, it is very possible that the next Bear occurs when he is in office.
But Dow will have a new Record All-Time High before the next Bear.

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