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Dow @ 20K. Time to jump off!

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Sunday, February 4, 2018 12:52 AM

JO753

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Odd. My JSF report haz alwayz been very reliable. Gess I'll haf to get the old ticker tape machine out to see wuts going on.

Takes a wile to warm up. Its actually a classic steam powered model. Wile I'm waiting, I'll hav a look at this Wiki paje about the greatest 1 fluctuationz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_daily_changes_in_the_Dow
_Jones_Industrial_Average


Interesting chart! Green on the good side, red on the drop side.

The 2 greatest ever, by far, are rite wen thingz were falling apart in 08! And the worst ever wuz a few weeks befor the best ever.

I can imajin the paniky investorz pooping their pants thinking "O NO! McCain iz going to win! Dump it! Dump it all!" But nobodyz buying. Then 2 weeks later it looks like Obamaz going to win and "I can get all that crap cheap now! Start buying godamit! BUY BUY BUY!" But its no good. A few daze later The Herd hirz sumthing on Fox and panicks agen.

Note that 8 uv the top 20 good dayz are during the Obama Admin, and another 5 in the 4th quarter uv 08 that coud possibly be attributed to investorz betting that the smart guy (Obama) wuz going to save us from falling off the cliff. (wich he did)

Nothing in the top 20 best ever for Trump, but he duz hav the 6th worst. so far.

OK, the machine iz running now and - O GOD! WUT THE HELL HAPPENED LAST WEEK?! Its like 1000 points down! Just notist the date on Trumps #6 entry wuz FRIDAY!
Ships sinking! Rats diving overboard into the flaming crude oil! Stampeding terror! Volcanoz spewing magma and noxious cloudz!


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Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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All I've got to say is that it's nice sitting on the sidelines and not worrying about it one way or another.

I just have to keep from getting too emotional when things like Bitcoin happen. I really contemplated buying up about $5k worth back when I watched a few videos about it before most people even knew what it was and it was selling for under $50. I wasn't working though, and you got to stick by your rules.

Rule number 1 for me is don't gamble with money you can't afford to lose.

Sure would have been nice though, turning 100 $50 bills into $10,000 bills.

Sigh....

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, February 4, 2018 1:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Odd. My JSF report haz alwayz been very reliable. Gess I'll haf to get the old ticker tape machine out to see wuts going on.

Takes a wile to warm up. Its actually a classic steam powered model. Wile I'm waiting, I'll hav a look at this Wiki paje about the greatest 1 fluctuationz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_daily_changes_in_the_Dow
_Jones_Industrial_Average


Interesting chart! Green on the good side, red on the drop side.

The 2 greatest ever, by far, are rite wen thingz were falling apart in 08! And the worst ever wuz a few weeks befor the best ever.

I can imajin the paniky investorz pooping their pants thinking "O NO! McCain iz going to win! Dump it! Dump it all!" But nobodyz buying. Then 2 weeks later it looks like Obamaz going to win and "I can get all that crap cheap now! Start buying godamit! BUY BUY BUY!" But its no good. A few daze later The Herd hirz sumthing on Fox and panicks agen.

Note that 8 uv the top 20 good dayz are during the Obama Admin, and another 5 in the 4th quarter uv 08 that coud possibly be attributed to investorz betting that the smart guy (Obama) wuz going to save us from falling off the cliff. (wich he did)

Nothing in the top 20 best ever for Trump, but he duz hav the 6th worst. so far.

OK, the machine iz running now and - O GOD! WUT THE HELL HAPPENED LAST WEEK?! Its like 1000 points down! Just notist the date on Trumps #6 entry wuz FRIDAY!
Ships sinking! Rats diving overboard into the flaming crude oil! Stampeding terror! Volcanoz spewing magma and noxious cloudz!

Is the sky falling? Is it time to panic? Has our resident Chicken Little posted a timely ode?

Poor interpretation of the table of Largest Percentage Changes at that wiki linky. Of the 20 greatest losses, 1987's Black Monday tops the list with over 22%. The only entries in the past 16 years are in the Fall of 2008, after McCain's campaign started sabotaging Sarah Palin, and folks started to see he was trying desperately to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - and what the resulting disaster would be in Obama. 2 of them in October, 1 in December, each about 1/3 the change of Black Monday. Although the Market had dropped >5,000 points for more than a year (since the Rock-The-Vote Democrap's first Budget - for FY08 - took effect), MSM Libtards continued to clamor that everybody should keep losing their money by staying in the Market. Another big loss was in September 2001. Couple more from Clinton. None since Obamination squashed the Market down on March 2009.
Of the 20 greatest gains, 3 are after 1940. 1 is from 1987, a quick recovery following Black Monday. The other 2 are from October 2008, each following the 2 greatest loss days, when Sarah Palin would speak and provide Americans with our last days of hope. There was no top-20 gain day following the December 2008 great drop.
Not a single great gain day since Obama's Election Day. And now after Obama devaluating the dollar to half, these tables might never again change.
Those tables show a completely different and factual picture than what Jump Off is dreaming of in his delusional post.


Looks like Dow closed at 25,520 on Friday. That is 1,096 less than the all-time High, or 4.1% off the record. That means 95.9% of the record high. Is the sky falling? Is it time to panic?
Apparently it has not closed lower than 25,520 since 10 January, 23 days ago. That was 16 trading days ago. The sky must certainly be falling. Perhaps it is time to panic.
In the entire history of the Stock Market and Dow Jones Industrial Average, it never, ever closed above 25,520 prior to 11 January, 2018. Obviously, the sky is falling. Libtards from East Coast to Left Coast must immediately rush to panic. Sell us your shares at these discount prices.

A one-day drop of 665, or 2.5% of the prior day close. Compared to the 8% drops when the Market realized Obama would occupy the White House, this is less than 1/3 of each of those 3 days in October 2008.

I do have a minor regret. Instead of buying in on Tuesday, I could have bought in on Friday, getting another easy 2% discount on the price.
Some would term this "a gift horse buying opportunity" but I have no spare funds to buy with. IIRC, most "gift horse" opportunities have a 10% discount, rather than merely 4%. Dow would need to pull back to 23,940 for that to be the case.

I saw somewhere that Apple had a large correction, first in many months. Not sure if accurate, or how much it affected Dow.

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Sunday, February 4, 2018 2:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
For people who doubt it, remember this: Trump never planned his days as a businessman. As he explains on the first page of "The Art of the Deal," he liked to let the day come to him -- no planned meetings, no set agendas. Just let the day unfold and sort of wing it.




RapKnight, whatever this is, I see an error icon. Says you need to enable 3rd party hosting. Look at it from a computer not your own.

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Sunday, February 4, 2018 4:18 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:....after McCain's campaign started sabotaging Sarah Palin,...


Let me make sure I'm reading that rite.

Are you saying you think Sarah Palin wuz a good choise for VP?

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Sunday, February 4, 2018 5:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Btw, I believe today's radio broadcast marks the 30th Anniversary of Bob Brinker's Money Talk. His newsletter is Market Timer. I think the show also has podcast, streaming, etc.

Be interesting to see what he has to say.

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Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:08 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:....after McCain's campaign started sabotaging Sarah Palin,...
Let me make sure I'm reading that rite.

Are you saying you think Sarah Palin wuz a good choise for VP?

Certainly. Upon announcement of Palin as his VP, McCain got the biggest bump in the polls of his campaign. Palin kept boosting the poll numbers whenever McCain's Libtard campaign Director wasn't sabotaging her. Palin was selected the last week of August. The Market bumped up and the drop of the Rock-The-Vote Democrap Bear Market slowed and wallowed until Election Day, when all hope was lost. The period of her VP candidacy had the Dow marked by ups when she stumped and down when McCain gave his Libtard speeches or sabotaged her.
If she had been the top of the ticket, I would have certainly voted GOP. But I couldn't convince myself that he would expire within a few years, so I couldn't vote for another RINO. More than 8 years later, he's still not dead.

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Sunday, February 4, 2018 10:49 PM

JO753

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Assuming you arent joking, here'z a quote from the blog on my corporate website from August 2011:

Quote:

I'm seriously considering making another website. The ME TOO! campayn for prezident. Seriously, they keep
blabbing about Sarah Palin running for prezident, so why not me? The dummest drug addled zombiez in my
least coherent dreamz make more sense than her!



The last part uv your post contradicts the 1st part. If McCain kikt the bucket az Prez, your hero woud automaticly bekum Prez.

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Monday, February 5, 2018 12:30 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by second:
For people who doubt it, remember this: Trump never planned his days as a businessman. As he explains on the first page of "The Art of the Deal," he liked to let the day come to him -- no planned meetings, no set agendas. Just let the day unfold and sort of wing it.




RapKnight, whatever this is, I see an error icon. Says you need to enable 3rd party hosting. Look at it from a computer not your own.




Photobucket is crap. They recently went from a long-time free service to a pay service and this happens all over the internet now on any photos that non-paying members ever posted using the service.

I suggest using tinypic.com

They make you type in an answer every other pic upload to a stupid advertisement that you can't even block with adblock plus, but that's the price to pay for "free". Will hopefully ensure that the pics stay visible for years to come without charging uploaders for an account.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 5, 2018 4:58 AM

JO753

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Shame on them for trying to get paid for their servis! (sarcazm)

(nonsarcastic)
It wuz a foolishly synical and sneaky way to try to fors payment. I'v seen several forumz that are defased by their trick.

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Monday, February 5, 2018 4:46 PM

JO753

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MoLoKo! MoLoKo! (greek swear word)



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Monday, February 5, 2018 9:07 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Heard reports that the Job Data Report was released on Friday, indicating excessive inflation, causing a Market pullback.

A good time to increase Minimum Wage, to push inflation higher.

If this is true, then this all needs to be blamed on Trump. Creating all those dang jobs every month. How inconsiderate of him.

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Monday, February 5, 2018 11:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


For those curious, Dow closed at 24,345. This is 2,271 off the all-time record high. That is 8.5% away from the all-time high.

Dow has not closed that low since December 12, which was 55 calendar days ago. In the entire history of the Stock Market and Dow Jones Industrial Average it never closed higher than this before 12 December, 2017.

This one day drop of 4.6% is about half of each of the 3 separate drops when the impending doom of Obama occupying the White House was becoming apparent in Fall 2008.

The 20th greatest loss in one day is listed as 6.98% in October 2008. So Monday's correction likely has no chance of getting within the top 40 losses of the Dow.
Although Obamanomics set off Exchange Circuit Breakers constantly with Market losses, this might be the first one under Trump. Looks like a Stage One Trading Curb may have been engaged when a 7% drop was detected.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:28 AM

JO753

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It wuz 1,172 points, the biggest drop in history. Quit being stinjy and give Trump hiz trofy!

But maybe wait a wile and see if he can beat it.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
It wuz 1,172 points, the biggest drop in history. Quit being stinjy and give Trump hiz trofy!

But maybe wait a wile and see if he can beat it.

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Well, to be fair, that's like claiming any blockbuster movie that comes out today is the largest grossing movie when we all know it's bullshit and ticket prices were cheaper back in the day. But nobody deals in the actual factual numbers anymore.

What I mean to say is that although it's the largest point total lost in a single day, it's not the largest percentage total. Stuff like this is easily confused when inflation is part of the equation, especially when bubbles occur.

That being said, this obviously comes as no surprise to me.

My prediction is that the scared ones that jump ship now are going to lose a lot when it goes temporarily back up, then they'll buy high again and get hit double time when it crashes back down.


... and the Rich get Richer....

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Heard reports that the Job Data Report was released on Friday, indicating excessive inflation, causing a Market pullback.

A good time to increase Minimum Wage, to push inflation higher.

If this is true, then this all needs to be blamed on Trump. Creating all those dang jobs every month. How inconsiderate of him.



What jobs?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:49 AM

JO753

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Correction - it went down 1,175 points. It had dropped more than 1,500 but roze back up before the clozing bell.

Similar to that roller coaster video!

Therez a misconseption about points vs persentaj.

The stocks that the Dow number iz based on hav actually increased in value over the yearz, so you cant just say 'persentaj' and attribute it to inflation. The actual real assets are BIGGER than they were in 2008, 1987 or other historical points uv interest.

Yes, alot uv the market iz pure speculation, but there iz a reality buried sumwhere under it all that iz the rezult uv productiv work creating fizikl products, corporate infrastructurez that serve customerz getting bigger and better, new tek being developed. Actual useful value.

Like my brother sed sum yirz ago wen there wuz fear that the dollar woud crash due to the trade defisit with China - "China got the dollarz, but now I got all this stuff".

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 3:17 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Heard reports that the Job Data Report was released on Friday, indicating excessive inflation, causing a Market pullback.

A good time to increase Minimum Wage, to push inflation higher.

If this is true, then this all needs to be blamed on Trump. Creating all those dang jobs every month. How inconsiderate of him.

What jobs?

Are you not reading what was posted?
The jobs in the Job Report, which cause the excessive inflation, and the fallback in the Market.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 7:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

What jobs?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Those jobs, but maybe those jobs aren't where you are in Indiana:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=i747


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:38 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Market crashing - grab your go bag.

Ass always, G panicking in his delusions.



Um, yeah. What's your pucker factor this am JSF?

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 9:41 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

What jobs?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Those jobs, but maybe those jobs aren't where you are in Indiana:



6ix needs to hold onto the belief that those numbers are totally false to rationalize his long term unemployment. It's ok, Jack, not working is much better than working for douche nozzles - been there, done that.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:11 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I should have asked:
Who thinks which day this week will have the biggest gain?

I conjure the day or 2 after its done falling back.
So, I'll conjure Monday was the big dropback, then maybe biggest gain on Wednesday. I don't have money to wager on that, my money was already in the market before this discount buying opportunity.

Although a lot of people would be relieved if it drops to 22,623 before rebounding.


Perhaps I should point out, here in the moment: these are the days of making the largest gains in funds. Buying at a discount of 6% can get an easy gain on bounce back, in a matter of days instead of the 55 days it recently took to scale this mountain of stock value.
And if it can drop to 22,623 then the rebound can only be reasonably expected to be 5% to 10% of the all-time high, so buying at the end of Monday could still result in a loss.
But regardless, whenever the market hits the best bargain price, that is when the common trader has the greatest opportunity to grow their funds. Although this volatility is just noise, the potential for growth is far greater than days of a couple hundred point gains.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 1:16 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
It wuz 1,172 points, the biggest drop in history. Quit being stinjy and give Trump hiz trofy!

But maybe wait a wile and see if he can beat it.

Just how insipid are you? Are you a complete and absolute moron, pretending to have a fiscal or mathematical clue?

If I tell you that we'll take the entirety of your life savings (or 10% of your life earnings) and you will now lose either 10 jiggers or 10 siggers worth, your choice - which do you choose?

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 2:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_daily_changes_in_the_Dow
_Jones_Industrial_Average


Interesting chart! Green on the good side, red on the drop side.

The 2 greatest ever, by far, are rite wen thingz were falling apart in 08! And the worst ever wuz a few weeks befor the best ever.

Nothing in the top 20 best ever for Trump

Is the sky falling? Is it time to panic? Has our resident Chicken Little posted a timely ode?

Poor interpretation of the table of Largest Percentage Changes at that wiki linky. Of the 20 greatest losses, 1987's Black Monday tops the list with over 22%. The only entries in the past 16 years are in the Fall of 2008, after McCain's campaign started sabotaging Sarah Palin, and folks started to see he was trying desperately to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - and what the resulting disaster would be in Obama. 2 of them in October, 1 in December, each about 1/3 the change of Black Monday. Although the Market had dropped >5,000 points for more than a year (since the Rock-The-Vote Democrap's first Budget - for FY08 - took effect), MSM Libtards continued to clamor that everybody should keep losing their money by staying in the Market. Another big loss was in September 2001. Couple more from Clinton. None since Obamination squashed the Market down on March 2009.
Of the 20 greatest gains, 3 are after 1940. 1 is from 1987, a quick recovery following Black Monday. The other 2 are from October 2008, each following the 2 greatest loss days, when Sarah Palin would speak and provide Americans with our last days of hope. There was no top-20 gain day following the December 2008 great drop.
Not a single great gain day since Obama's Election Day. And now after Obama devaluating the dollar to half, these tables might never again change.
Those tables show a completely different and factual picture than what Jump Off is dreaming of in his delusional post.


Looks like Dow closed at 25,520 on Friday. That is 1,096 less than the all-time High, or 4.1% off the record.

A one-day drop of 665, or 2.5% of the prior day close. Compared to the 8% drops when the Market realized Obama would occupy the White House, this is less than 1/3 of each of those 3 days in October 2008.


I have been looking for the list of Stock Market Exchange Circuit Breakers, or Trading Curbs, or "Curb-ins" which is supposed to be maintained by the SEC. Haven't had luck finding it yet.
Reportedly Obama set record numbers of Circuit Breaker trips, sometimes several per day. Since 1987, Bush41, BJ Clinton, Bush43, and Trump have had the opportunity to trip more Circuit Breakers with devastating Market losses due to horrific Economies than Obamanomics, but none of them have.

In order to hide the poor performance of Obamanomics, in 2013 the SEC Rule 80b was changed, in its triggering criteria.
From 1998-2013, the Level 1, 2, and 3 Circuit Breakers were set for a DJIA loss of 10%, 20%, 30% respectively of the average daily close of the last month of the prior Quarter - and those figures remained for the whole quarter.
Since 2013, the triggers for the levels are 7%, 13%, 20% of the prior day's close of the S&P500.

So, with 7% drops tripping the Circuit Breakers to Halt Trading, it was fairly more difficult to reach the same level as the drops that Obama and Rock-The-Vote Democraps achieved in 2008.
Those tables might never again change, on the negative or red side.
Maybe more useful to look at the list of Trading Curbs.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 3:39 PM

JO753

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You keep trying to blame Obama for ruining the economy. Nobody outside uv the Fox eko chamber can be fooled into considering that for a second.

The only blame to be credited iz the suppozedly slow recovery and that goez to Mitch McConnel, John Boehner and the entire GoP for obstructionizm.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 4:20 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by Riverlove:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Should we still jump off?
Yesterday's close was about 21,454.
Looks like all time high of 21,535 was on June 19.

I'm not. My stock portfolio is up about 18% since Trump was elected. Corporate earnings remain strong, but as we've seen before, things can turn ugly real fast. Best way to protect your investment and your profits is with stop-sell orders. If prices rise you can adjust the threshold upwards. If prices drop, your sell order kicks in and your loss is minimized.

You guys are so full of shit. Your investments my ass. You act as though Trump saved us all. He's riding on Obamas' success. When President Obama took office on Jan. 20, 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was 7,949.09. As of the end of Obama's term on January 20, 2017, the Dow was 19,732.40

Obama's "success" - for koolaid drinkers.

On Oct 12, 2007 - just before the Rock The Vote Democraps who took majority of the House had their disastrous first budget take full effect (FY2008) - Dow closed 14,093. Bush had been in office for 6 years.
On Nov 4, 2008 - Election Day - Dow closed at 9,625. A drop of 32% in 13 months that the Rock The Vote Democraps can take credit for.
On Nov 5, 2008 - Black Wednesday, when the results were learned (American voters chose the path of further economic disaster) - Dow closed at 9,139. A drop of 5% in one day which Bobo can take credit for.
By Jan 19, 2009 the impending doom had driven the Dow to 8,279 at close - a drop of another 9.5% since Nov 5 (76 days). Bobo can take credit for this.
On Jan 20, 2009 the Dow dropped another 4% in this single day. A drop of 17.5% since the day of the election. Bobo can take credit for this also.
On Mar 9, 2009 the Dow closed at 6,547. A drop of 21% in Bobo's first 48 days in office. Yep, Obama can take credit for this also. Total of 32% loss since Election Day, matching the loss of a whole year of Democraps in charge (with only Bush43 to reign them in). And a loss of 53% in only 1 year, 4 months since Democraps took control of the Fed Budget.

On November 2, 2010 - Election Day - the Dow closed at 11,188. It had crept up 1,563 points since Obama was elected. Or 16% in 2 years. This is the rate of growth that Bobo could take credit for. Still 2,905 less than before Democraps had taken control of the Federal Budget.
On 27 Jan, 2011 - when the new Congress had taken their seats, discharging the Democrap majorities - Dow closed at 11,989. A gain of 801 points in only 3 months since the election, and only a few weeks in office - despite Bobo still occupying the White House. Can't see Bobo taking credit for the GOP's gains - oops, that's right, Bobo did take credit where not due.

By Jan 20, 2017 - with 6 years of GOP control of Congress, the Dow had gained 76%, despite Bobo still occupying the White House.
By Jun 19, 2017 the Dow achieved 21,535. A gain of 1,803 point and over 9% in only the first 5 months of Trump taking office.

JO, Real World Facts don't lie like your Libtard Fake "facts" do.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 4:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I should have asked:
Who thinks which day this week will have the biggest gain?

I conjure the day or 2 after its done falling back.
So, I'll conjure Monday was the big dropback, then maybe biggest gain on Wednesday. I don't have money to wager on that, my money was already in the market before this discount buying opportunity.

Dow closed at 24,912.
Only 2.33% gain. Room enough to gain more tomorrow.

Perhaps the bargain pricing is over.

Note: thus far, nobody else has weighed in.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 5:07 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
It wuz 1,172 points, the biggest drop in history. Quit being stinjy and give Trump hiz trofy!

But maybe wait a wile and see if he can beat it.

Just how insipid are you? Are you a complete and absolute moron, pretending to have a fiscal or mathematical clue?

If I tell you that we'll take the entirety of your life savings (or 10% of your life earnings) and you will now lose either 10 jiggers or 10 siggers worth, your choice - which do you choose?

What's wrong? You can't make a simple decision?
Each one is just 10, do it's not like there's a difference!

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:42 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Need a few loops and verticle drop with corkscrew twists. The next shutdown iz Thurzday and Trump haz to do hiz weekly stoopid crazy thing. Lets see were its at on Friday 5 pm.

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Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
It wuz 1,172 points, the biggest drop in history. Quit being stinjy and give Trump hiz trofy!

But maybe wait a wile and see if he can beat it.

Just how insipid are you? Are you a complete and absolute moron, pretending to have a fiscal or mathematical clue?

If I tell you that we'll take the entirety of your life savings (or 10% of your life earnings) and you will now lose either 10 jiggers or 10 siggers worth, your choice - which do you choose?

What's wrong? You can't make a simple decision?
Each one is just 10, do it's not like there's a difference!

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Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:14 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


I may hav a talent for insipidity. Shoud I enter the contest for most insipid in the world?

Herez a Q for you: Shoud peepl who work get paid more for their product or servis than sumwun who did nothing but buy sum stock with their exess money?

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Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:51 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
If I tell you that we'll take the entirety of your life savings (or 10% of your life earnings) and you will now lose either 10 jiggers or 10 siggers worth, your choice - which do you choose?

What's wrong? You can't make a simple decision?
Each one is just 10, do it's not like there's a difference!

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Wednesday, February 7, 2018 5:01 AM

JO753

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I'll go with the life savingz.

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Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:34 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
If I tell you that we'll take the entirety of your life savings and you will now lose either 10 jiggers or 10 siggers worth, your choice - which do you choose?

What's wrong? You can't make a simple decision?
Each one is just 10, do it's not like there's a difference!

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Wednesday, February 7, 2018 5:49 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


This is for a little glance into the Libtard delusions:

From 25 January 2017, Dow up to 20,000:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Time for a bust, so if youv got alot in a 401k and stock in anything that generally followz the Dow number, time to cash out.

It's artificially hi and the walez know that Trump iz going to be like Bush on steroidz. The minit wun uv them starts selling, the little guyz will follow and then its a rase for the life boats.

Translation: Dow at 20,000 is artificially high, everybody should get out at 20,000. Bear Market is imminent, and the selloff will be a stampede.


From 20 March, Dow up to 21,169:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
We certainly wouldn't want anybody to see a gain of 5% of their worth in only a month, right?
Dow hit 21,169 at the beginning of March. About 5 weeks after this thread's OP.

I missed in fact, but not prinsipal.

How hi do you think it will go? Wut event are you keeping an eye out for that will presipitate a big drop?

Despite the obvious evidence, clinging to the comfy delusion.


From 5 October, Dow up to 22,775:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Thats not proof that the market iznt delusional.

Here the delusional Libtard sees the real world and envisions the real world Market as being delusional.


From 18 October, Dow up to 22,997:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
OK. Jump off wen it gets to 25K.

Delusion slightly modified, an increase of 25% signals imminent downturn to Bear Market.


From 21 October, Dow up to 23,328:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Keep your eyez on the big guyz. There will be sum event sumwhere that nobody notisez and a wale will start selling. He will probably hav sum reazonable boring explanation ready in case anybody asks - 'tranzitioning to unrelated opportunityz' bloated to a few hundred obfuscating wordz with the purpose uv making everybody think therez nothing going on. But woc how fast he tryz to sell, the prise getting lower & lower at an akselerating rate.

And its not like the orijinal reazon haz to be truly important. All that haz to happen iz investorz start to notis that the wale iz moving, then the smaller fish will follow and in a flash its a stampede, then an avalanche that takes down everything.

A possible trigger just happened. The Senate passed Trump's debt exploder bujet. Hoo cannot see the parallel to Bush jr'z wakadoodle financial poliseez?

The delusion that the first reasonable Federal Budget in 9 years will cause Market collapse. In the next 99 calendar days Dow will gain 14.9%, or 55% APR.


From 4 January, Dow up to 25,000:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
The Dow will probably exeed 25,000 today and if the bubble duznt pop now, maybe it never will! 30, 40 50 .... 100 thouzand!!! Just keep rizing till we break the planet.

A Libtard views a solid gain of 25% as being "a bubble"


From 7 January, Dow up to 25,295:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Okay, but does that explain the dramatic record breaking increases?

The Dow Jonez Industrial Averaj wuz well into fantasy land long befor Trump won.

Its speculation based on optimizm, fear and greed,

Dow was 18,332 on Trump's Election Day. The delusion is that it was into fantasyland long before that. Fantasyland implies a 20% overvalue, possibly only 15%. Long before Election Day, so perhaps around 18,000 Dow.
So the delusion defines the real market value as about 15,000 Dow, and anything above that as Investor overvaluation.


From 19 January, Dow up to 26,115:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I dont see why anybody takes thoze prognosticatorz seriously after the 2008 colaps. I never did.

People who understand the Stock Market shouldn't be taken seriously. Only listen to Libtards who gave been proven wrong endlessly.


Also from 19 January:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Sure. All those people who warned that 2008 would happen, and why

There were a few. Everybody els wuz cheering on the rizing numberz, especially the big investment firmz.

Now you are cheering on the rizing numberz.

Confusing understanding of the Market while still reaping the gains during Bull Market (because, again, they understood the Market ) as unrelated concepts.


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Wednesday, February 7, 2018 6:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I should have asked:
Who thinks which day this week will have the biggest gain?

I conjure the day or 2 after its done falling back.
So, I'll conjure Monday was the big dropback, then maybe biggest gain on Wednesday. I don't have money to wager on that, my money was already in the market before this discount buying opportunity.

Dow closed at 24,912.
Only 2.33% gain. Room enough to gain more tomorrow.

Perhaps the bargain pricing is over.

Note: thus far, nobody else has weighed in.

I was off, not on Wednesday. NASDAQ dragged the indices down at the end. In the first 2 hours Dow gained over half of Tuesday's gain.

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Wednesday, February 7, 2018 6:35 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

What jobs?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Those jobs, but maybe those jobs aren't where you are in Indiana:



6ix needs to hold onto the belief that those numbers are totally false to rationalize his long term unemployment. It's ok, Jack, not working is much better than working for douche nozzles - been there, done that.



The numbers are fake. Half jobs aren't jobs. I'm working one. I'm not unemployed, but I'm underemployed.

Instead of chasing after Russian Ghosts with the Trump administration, why don't you do something useful like calling Trump out on the same bullshit numbers that Obama was touting.

Trump said the jobs numbers were bullshit when Obama said it. He was right. But now all of the sudden they're valid? I don't think you believe that. You just want to take a dig at me.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:17 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
This is for a little glance into the Libtard delusions:

From 25 January 2017, Dow up to 20,000:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Time for a bust, so if youv got alot in a 401k and stock in anything that generally followz the Dow number, time to cash out.

It's artificially hi and the walez know that Trump iz going to be like Bush on steroidz. The minit wun uv them starts selling, the little guyz will follow and then its a rase for the life boats.

Translation: Dow at 20,000 is artificially high, everybody should get out at 20,000. Bear Market is imminent, and the selloff will be a stampede.


From 20 March, Dow up to 21,169:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
We certainly wouldn't want anybody to see a gain of 5% of their worth in only a month, right?
Dow hit 21,169 at the beginning of March. About 5 weeks after this thread's OP.

I missed in fact, but not prinsipal.

How hi do you think it will go? Wut event are you keeping an eye out for that will presipitate a big drop?

Despite the obvious evidence, clinging to the comfy delusion.


From 5 October, Dow up to 22,775:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Thats not proof that the market iznt delusional.

Here the delusional Libtard sees the real world and envisions the real world Market as being delusional.


From 18 October, Dow up to 22,997:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
OK. Jump off wen it gets to 25K.

Delusion slightly modified, an increase of 25% signals imminent downturn to Bear Market.


From 21 October, Dow up to 23,328:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Keep your eyez on the big guyz. There will be sum event sumwhere that nobody notisez and a wale will start selling. He will probably hav sum reazonable boring explanation ready in case anybody asks - 'tranzitioning to unrelated opportunityz' bloated to a few hundred obfuscating wordz with the purpose uv making everybody think therez nothing going on. But woc how fast he tryz to sell, the prise getting lower & lower at an akselerating rate.

And its not like the orijinal reazon haz to be truly important. All that haz to happen iz investorz start to notis that the wale iz moving, then the smaller fish will follow and in a flash its a stampede, then an avalanche that takes down everything.

A possible trigger just happened. The Senate passed Trump's debt exploder bujet. Hoo cannot see the parallel to Bush jr'z wakadoodle financial poliseez?

The delusion that the first reasonable Federal Budget in 9 years will cause Market collapse. In the next 99 calendar days Dow will gain 14.9%, or 55% APR.


From 4 January, Dow up to 25,000:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
The Dow will probably exeed 25,000 today and if the bubble duznt pop now, maybe it never will! 30, 40 50 .... 100 thouzand!!! Just keep rizing till we break the planet.

A Libtard views a solid gain of 25% as being "a bubble"


From 7 January, Dow up to 25,295:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Okay, but does that explain the dramatic record breaking increases?

The Dow Jonez Industrial Averaj wuz well into fantasy land long befor Trump won.

Its speculation based on optimizm, fear and greed,

Dow was 18,332 on Trump's Election Day. The delusion is that it was into fantasyland long before that. Fantasyland implies a 20% overvalue, possibly only 15%. Long before Election Day, so perhaps around 18,000 Dow.
So the delusion defines the real market value as about 15,000 Dow, and anything above that as Investor overvaluation.


From 19 January, Dow up to 26,115:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I dont see why anybody takes thoze prognosticatorz seriously after the 2008 colaps. I never did.

People who understand the Stock Market shouldn't be taken seriously. Only listen to Libtards who gave been proven wrong endlessly.


Also from 19 January:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Sure. All those people who warned that 2008 would happen, and why

There were a few. Everybody els wuz cheering on the rizing numberz, especially the big investment firmz.

Now you are cheering on the rizing numberz.

Confusing understanding of the Market while still reaping the gains during Bull Market (because, again, they understood the Market ) as unrelated concepts.


Alright, so let's take a moment to explore the scenario if the Libtard view actually wasn't a delusion.

Their premise is that the real actual value of the Market is represented by Dow 15,000.
So then 26,616 is an actual overevaluation of 11,616 - or 177% of the true value. That may well be a historical record.
So if Dow goes no higher than that during this cycle, then a drop to 22,623 will signal onset of a Bear Market cycle. The rebound will go to about 23,954 - 25,285 range and then drop. A Bear Market drop always bottoms far below the true value of a stock, so the Dow would at this point bottom out around 8,000 - 12,000. The would represent a drop of 55% - 70%. Such a large drop gives investors plenty of time or range to recognize the drop and exit their stocks, before the bottom price is available to buy back in for massive gains - doubling or tripling your fund value. Unless the Libtard duplicates 2008 and keeps all their money in the Market until they've lost 60% of their life savings. So what are the Libtards panicking about? Their scenario provides the best possible outcome for their funds!

By comparison OTOH, if the Libtards are delusional and the Stock Market is the Real World, then a couple extreme possibilities can be presented.
One is that, for no reason, the current high of 26,616 remains the peak of this cycle. The drop to trigger remains the same as above, as well as the rebound range. But then the bottom would be more like 17,740 (67%) or we could hope for 13,300 (50%). The discount price for buying back in would not be as big of a bargain, plus the time of range of drop would be more brief, so exiting the fund would be more time critical, allowing for less dilly-dallying. And then the recovery gains would only be 30 - 50%.
The other possibility would be that the explanation for Obamanomics which I posted earlier in this thread are correct. The Market will continue to climb, for up to 8 years, before moving to Bear Market.
By that time most folk would have forgotten about Libtard delusional theories.

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Thursday, February 8, 2018 9:49 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Alright, so let's take a moment to explore the scenario if the Libtard view actually wasn't a delusion.

Their premise is that the real actual value of the Market is represented by Dow 15,000.
So then 26,616 is an actual overevaluation of 11,616 - or 177% of the true value. That may well be a historical record.
So if Dow goes no higher than that during this cycle, then a drop to 22,623 will signal onset of a Bear Market cycle. The rebound will go to about 23,954 - 25,285 range and then drop. A Bear Market drop always bottoms far below the true value of a stock, so the Dow would at this point bottom out around 8,000 - 12,000. The would represent a drop of 55% - 70%. Such a large drop gives investors plenty of time or range to recognize the drop and exit their stocks, before the bottom price is available to buy back in for massive gains - doubling or tripling your fund value. Unless the Libtard duplicates 2008 and keeps all their money in the Market until they've lost 60% of their life savings. So what are the Libtards panicking about? Their scenario provides the best possible outcome for their funds!

By comparison OTOH, if the Libtards are delusional and the Stock Market is the Real World, then a couple extreme possibilities can be presented.
One us that, for no reason, the current high of 26,616 remains the peak of this cycle. The drop to trigger remains the same as above, as well as the rebound range. But then the bottom would be more like 17,740 or we could hope for 13,300. The discount price for buying back in would not be as big of a bargain, plus the time of range of drop would be more brief, so exiting the fund would be more time critical, allowing for less dilly-dallying. And then the recovery gains would only be 30 - 50%.
The other possibility would be that the explanation for Obamanomics which I posted earlier in this thread are correct. The Market will continue to climb, for up to 8 years, before moving to Bear Market.
By that time most folk would have forgotten about Libtard delusional theories.



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Thursday, February 8, 2018 11:56 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Alright, so let's take a moment to explore the scenario if the Libtard view actually wasn't a delusion.

Their premise is that the real actual value of the Market is represented by Dow 15,000.
So then 26,616 is an actual overevaluation of 11,616 - or 177% of the true value. That may well be a historical record.
So if Dow goes no higher than that during this cycle, then a drop to 22,623 will signal onset of a Bear Market cycle. The rebound will go to about 23,954 - 25,285 range and then drop. A Bear Market drop always bottoms far below the true value of a stock, so the Dow would at this point bottom out around 8,000 - 12,000. The would represent a drop of 55% - 70%. Such a large drop gives investors plenty of time or range to recognize the drop and exit their stocks, before the bottom price is available to buy back in for massive gains - doubling or tripling your fund value. Unless the Libtard duplicates 2008 and keeps all their money in the Market until they've lost 60% of their life savings. So what are the Libtards panicking about? Their scenario provides the best possible outcome for their funds!

By comparison OTOH, if the Libtards are delusional and the Stock Market is the Real World, then a couple extreme possibilities can be presented.
One us that, for no reason, the current high of 26,616 remains the peak of this cycle. The drop to trigger remains the same as above, as well as the rebound range. But then the bottom would be more like 17,740 (67%) or we could hope for 13,300 (50%). The discount price for buying back in would not be as big of a bargain, plus the time of range of drop would be more brief, so exiting the fund would be more time critical, allowing for less dilly-dallying. And then the recovery gains would only be 30 - 50%.
The other possibility would be that the explanation for Obamanomics which I posted earlier in this thread are correct. The Market will continue to climb, for up to 8 years, before moving to Bear Market.
By that time most folk would have forgotten about Libtard delusional theories.

Sorry, but there were 2 somewhat key points which I neglected to mention in that post.
Actually, both follow from another point which I didn't focus upon enough. When a Market Timing trade is Profit taking, it rarely, practically never, occurs at the precise moment, the specific day, of the all-time high. So the sell-out is never at 100% peak of the cycle. As I did point out above, usually the best that one could hope for is selling on the Rebound at between 90% - 95%. So right there is the inherent loss of 5% - 10% of the all-time high mark, when Bear Market is onset. This is a loss that most investors must accept as par for the course, and another reason a fallback of only 10% total is largely ignored by the long-term investor (like retirement funds such as 401K).

A Bear Market is generally expected to drop at least 30% from the all-time high. If this minimal Bear occurs, the best buy-in discount price would be at that 70% mark (of the all-time high). If the 30% loss mark is missed, then at least a buy-in at the 25% loss mark should be expected (or 75% of all-time high). The worst of these possibilities are getting out at 90% and buying in at 75%, garnering a 20% gain overall. The best of these possibilities is getting out at 95% and buying back in at 70%, garnering a 37% gain overall. So the expected Market Timing gain in a 30% Fall Bear Market is a meager 20% - 37%. This is a point that applies above to (1) the Stock Market is Real plus (2) Dow 26,616 is the peak of this cycle.

For the scenario of the Libtard delusion is actually Real, then the bottom would be around 12,000 Dow (55% Fall) to 8,000 Dow (70% Fall).
If it is 12,000 then the bargain buy-in would be at 45% - 50% (of all-time high). The WORST possibility would be selling on Rebound at 90% and buy-in at 50%, garnering an 80% gain overall. The best would be selling at 95% and buy-in at 45%, garnering a 111% gain overall.
If the bottom is 8,000 then the bargain buy-in would be at 30% - 35% (of all-time high). The worst possibility would be selling on Rebound at 90% and buy-in at 35%, garnering a 157% gain overall. The BEST possibility would be selling at 95% and buying in at 30%, garnering a 217% gain overall.
So this point, further clarifying what I posted before, is that the Libtard viewpoint, if it is Real, provides the greatest opportunity for gains - from about 80% to 217% - so what are they whining about so much?

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Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_daily_changes_in_the_Dow
_Jones_Industrial_Average


Interesting chart! Green on the good side, red on the drop side.

OK, the machine iz running now and - O GOD! WUT THE HELL HAPPENED LAST WEEK?! Its like 1000 points down!
Ships sinking! Rats diving overboard into the flaming crude oil! Stampeding terror! Volcanoz spewing magma and noxious cloudz!

Is the sky falling? Is it time to panic? Has our resident Chicken Little posted a timely ode?

Poor interpretation of the table of Largest Percentage Changes at that wiki linky. Of the 20 greatest losses, 1987's Black Monday tops the list with over 22%. The only entries in the past 16 years are in the Fall of 2008, after McCain's campaign started sabotaging Sarah Palin, and folks started to see he was trying desperately to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - and what the resulting disaster would be in Obama. 2 of them in October, 1 in December, each about 1/3 the change of Black Monday. Although the Market had dropped >5,000 points for more than a year (since the Rock-The-Vote Democrap's first Budget - for FY08 - took effect), MSM Libtards continued to clamor that everybody should keep losing their money by staying in the Market. Another big loss was in September 2001. Couple more from Clinton. None since Obamination squashed the Market down on March 2009.
Of the 20 greatest gains, 3 are after 1940. 1 is from 1987, a quick recovery following Black Monday. The other 2 are from October 2008, each following the 2 greatest loss days, when Sarah Palin would speak and provide Americans with our last days of hope. There was no top-20 gain day following the December 2008 great drop.
Not a single great gain day since Obama's Election Day. And now after Obama devaluating the dollar to half, these tables might never again change.
Those tables show a completely different and factual picture than what Jump Off is dreaming of in his delusional post.


Looks like Dow closed at 25,520 on Friday. That is 1,096 less than the all-time High, or 4.1% off the record. That means 95.9% of the record high. Is the sky falling? Is it time to panic?
Apparently it has not closed lower than 25,520 since 10 January, 23 days ago. That was 16 trading days ago. The sky must certainly be falling. Perhaps it is time to panic.
In the entire history of the Stock Market and Dow Jones Industrial Average, it never, ever closed above 25,520 prior to 11 January, 2018. Obviously, the sky is falling. Libtards from East Coast to Left Coast must immediately rush to panic. Sell us your shares at these discount prices.

A one-day drop of 665, or 2.5% of the prior day close. Compared to the 8% drops when the Market realized Obama would occupy the White House, this is less than 1/3 of each of those 3 days in October 2008.

I do have a minor regret. Instead of buying in on Tuesday, I could have bought in on Friday, getting another easy 2% discount on the price.
Some would term this "a gift horse buying opportunity" but I have no spare funds to buy with. IIRC, most "gift horse" opportunities have a 10% discount, rather than merely 4%. Dow would need to pull back to 23,940 for that to be the case.

Dow closed today at 23,860. A drop of 4.15% for the day. About half of what the impending doom of Obama generated 4 times in Fall 2008.
So it is now in "gift horse" buying opportunity territory. A total of 10% off the all-time Record High.
Even if the Dow drops to 22,623, the rebound is almost certain to close above today's closing prices. Practically a guaranteed gain.

Dow hasn't closed this low since 29 November. A whopping 71 days ago. In the entire history of the Stock Market and Dow Jones Industrial Average there was never ever a close higher than this prior to 30 November 2017.

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Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:27 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
If I tell you that we'll take the entirety of your life savings and you will now lose either 10 jiggers or 10 siggers worth, your choice - which do you choose?

What's wrong? You can't make a simple decision?
Each one is just 10, do it's not like there's a difference!

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Thursday, February 8, 2018 5:47 PM

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Wel SeD, KaPTIN! & YOR LaTIN IZ IMPeKUBL.

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Thursday, February 8, 2018 6:04 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
If I tell you that we'll take the entirety of your life savings and you will now lose either 10 jiggers or 10 siggers worth, your choice - which do you choose?



Youv posted that obvious nonsens 5 or 6 timez alredy. A sine uv fear.

Your 2 lengthy posts are actually attempts to reliev your fear. The lojik iz flawed and you put forth a stratejy thats entirely dependent on attributing The Herd with good lojik and nolej they do not hav.

I dont no why you keep shoehorning insults agenst "libtards" into discussionz about the stock market. Libertarianz may be naive starry eyed idealists, but they are the same az everybody els wen it kumz to gambling with their spare money.

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Thursday, February 8, 2018 6:07 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
If I tell you that we'll take the entirety of your life savings and you will now lose either 10 jiggers or 10 siggers worth, your choice - which do you choose?

Youv posted that obvious nonsens 5 or 6 timez alredy. A sine uv fear.

Your 2 lengthy posts are actually attempts to reliev your fear. The lojik iz flawed and you put forth a stratejy thats entirely dependent on attributing The Herd with good lojik and nolej they do not hav.

I dont no why you keep shoehorning insults agenst "libtards" into discussionz about the stock market. Libertarianz may be naive starry eyed idealists, but they are the same az everybody els wen it kumz to gambling with their spare money.

You are so clueless that you don't know the difference between Liberals and Libertarians?
Good grief!

Kindly return to a thread where you can comprehend the concepts being discussed, which is clearly not this one.


OTOH, if somebody has a question, or can point out a logic failure, or wants better explanation or clarification, post up.

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Friday, February 9, 2018 6:50 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Dow closes 22,118 today.

That is up 2,386 since taking office. 6 1/2 months ago.

That is a gain of over 12% so far, and over 22% per annum so far.

For those not so clued on the math concept, that is more than the 8% per year Obama did in his first 2 years - without GOP control of Congress.
And that is more than the 12% per year for Bobo's 6 years with GOP control of Congress, despite Bobo having the absolutely easiest period for economic recuperation. Now Trump is adding on top of already historic highs, a much more difficult feat.

To the contrary, the past has thousands of different days when the market hit a new historical high.

There is a chart at "Even the Stock Market Likes Obama Better Than Trump"
KEVIN DRUM, FEB. 8, 2018 6:41 PM

Drum writes, "I have no good reason to post this chart. I’m just taunting Donald Trump, I guess."
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/02/even-the-stock-market-likes-oba
ma-better-than-trump
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Friday, February 9, 2018 7:13 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Kindly return to a thread where you can comprehend the concepts being discussed, which is clearly not this one.


OTOH, if somebody has a question, or can point out a logic failure, or wants better explanation or clarification, post up.

Please clarify: "Savaged global stocks head for worst week since 2011" Why is this not Trump's fault?

www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets/savaged-global-stocks-head-f
or-worst-week-since-2011-idUSKBN1FT01T


A 4 percent drop in Chinese shares dealt reeling world stock markets a fresh blow on Friday, as nerves about rising borrowing costs and soaring volatility put them on course for their worst week since the height of euro zone crisis.

China’s overnight plunge had gouged at confidence again after the second 1,000 point loss of the week for the U.S. Dow Jones Industrial had sent it into official correction territory.

Capital flow figures also showed a record $30 billion had already been yanked out of stocks during the rout, though even after that, Bank of America’s closely followed “Bull & Bear” indicator was still flashing red and warning investors to sell.

“After the moves earlier this week market investor sentiment is fragile and because of this we aren’t expecting the markets to immediately start moving higher once again,” said J.P. Morgan Asset Management Global Market Strategist Kerry Craig.

The U.S. government staggered into another shutdown after lawmakers failed to meet a funding deal deadline, but it did play into many of the overarching market concerns that have taken hold this month.

The yield on benchmark 10-year U.S. Treasuries, which tends to be the driver of global borrowing costs, was hovering at 2.86 percent just short of Monday’s four-year high of 2.885 percent.

Higher bond yields are seen hurting equities as they increase loan costs for companies and ultimately consumers. They also present an alternative to investors who may reallocate some funds to bonds from equities.

For MSCI’s broadest index of world shares, the 47-country ACWI the slump was 6.2 percent, which as long as it is still more than 6.1 percent when U.S. markets close later will be the biggest loss since September 2011.

Much more at www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets/savaged-global-stocks-head-f
or-worst-week-since-2011-idUSKBN1FT01T

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Friday, February 9, 2018 7:31 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
To contrary, the past has thousands of different days when the market hit a new historical high.

There is a chart at "Even the Stock Market Likes Obama Better Than Trump"
KEVIN DRUM, FEB. 8, 2018 6:41 PM

Drum writes, "I have no good reason to post this chart. I’m just taunting Donald Trump, I guess."



Apparently "taunting Trump" is all this post is good for. It gives nothing but two squiggly lines, dumbed down to a meaningless "100" with no context surrounding it, such as the fact that the market had already been on an overall upward trajectory for 8 years after the terrible crash of 2008 that Obama was able to benefit from once it leveled out. On top of that, it's the only time the S&P 500 has come into this thread's conversation about the DOW, as far as I know.


S&P 500 by year: http://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-historical-prices/table/by-year

Jan 1, 2009 865.58
Jan 1, 2010 1,123.58 +23%

Jan 1, 2017 2,275.12
Jan 1, 2018 2,683.73 +16%

Nobody ever talks about the S&P 500. Makes me wonder why the MSM isn't making it a household name right now since they could rub Trumps face in these stats everyday.


Here's the DOW figures for the same years: http://www.1stock1.com/1stock1_139.htm

Jan 1, 2009: 8776.39
Jan 1, 2010: 10428.05 +18.82% (After a -33.84% year in 2008)

Jan 1, 2017: 19762.60
Jan 1, 2018: 24719.22 +25.08% (After a +13.42% year in 2016 and 7 of the previous 8 years with gains as much as 26.50%, and only a single year of losses at -2.23%.)

Which also makes me wonder why aren't the MSM dismissing claims of Trumps record gains by comparing 2017 to 2013?

Or go back to 1975: 38.32%

Or 1985: 27.66%

Or 1989: 26.96%

Or 1995: 33.45%

Or 1996: 26.01%

Or 1999: 25.22%

Or 2003: 25.32%

Jesus Christ MSM... so many legitimate things you can be going after Trump for, yet you always drop the fucking ball and make shit up when you don't even have to.

Most retards that read your news aren't even going to realize that the S&P 500 chart was used in Kevin Drum's "quirky" little graph, but they don't even know the difference between the DOW and the S&P in the first place.

Why not just come out and say that the DJIA percentage gain under 2013 Obama administration was almost 1.5% more than Trump's 2017 gains?


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 9, 2018 8:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Apparently "taunting Trump" is all this post is good for. It gives nothing but two squiggly lines, dumbed down to a meaningless "100" with no context surrounding it

Jesus Christ MSM... so many legitimate things you can be going after Trump for, yet you always drop the fucking ball and make shit up when you don't even have to.

Most retards that read your news aren't even going to realize that the S&P 500 chart was used in Kevin Drum's "quirky" little graph, but they don't even know the difference between the DOW and the S&P in the first place.

6ixStringJack, this took one minute for me to do. I timed it:

Take the stock market index and re-scale it so that the value on inauguration day is 100. That makes it easy for a comparison by percent change in stock market for the first months of Obama and Trump.

Economists use that re-scaling to 100 all the time. This graph from the Federal Reserve is scaled to 100 on inauguration day 2009, but you can make another for Trump 2017 to see if Kevin Drum got that one right.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=ih6v


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Friday, February 9, 2018 9:06 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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No shit. I'm not a fucking idiot. I know what it means. I'm speaking for the majority of idiots out there that can't Math well enough to balance their own checkbook.

I actually show that I know this in the large portion of the post that you didn't quote. You'll find that I didn't even argue the specific data in the graph, but I proved it accurate and even elaborated on it.

You either already knew that I did and ignored it when making your idiot reply, or you just ignored it in the first place.

Nothing to say about anything relevant in the rest of the post?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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