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Russia wants to upend Western democracy

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Monday, January 30, 2017 6:10 PM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


Former Ukraine finance minister:

Russia's interference in the U.S. election was but the latest and most audacious episode in Moscow's ongoing effort to destroy liberal democracy and the Trans-Atlantic partnership, says a top Ukrainian leader. "The information attacks, the propaganda, the cyberattacks. We've lived through all the things they tested first in Ukraine," Natalie Jaresko, the country's former finance minister told David Axelrod on The Axe Files podcast, a joint production of CNN and the University of Chicago's Institute of Politics.

"It's shocking that they would take the risk of doing that in the United States. And now it appears -- I've seen reports -- Germany, France and elsewhere. "

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/natalie-jaresko-axe-files/index
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And Trump is his best ally in this.

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Monday, January 30, 2017 11:56 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


I also want to upend ' liberal democracy '.

Too much honesty about our leaders and their corruption!! Oh no!!


Spare me.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, January 31, 2017 7:26 AM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I also want to upend ' liberal democracy '.

Too much honesty about our leaders and their corruption!! Oh no!!


Spare me.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen




I have issues with extreme points of view myself rap. Many of those points of view come from you. However, Patton would roll over in his grave if he saw what you posted instead of coming together to push Putin back. What he represents in not democracy.

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Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


What you represent isn't Democracy either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 1, 2017 5:29 PM

THGRRI

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Democracy is all encompassing rap or it's not a democracy. What you describe is hate.

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Sunday, February 12, 2017 10:29 AM

THGRRI

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NATO: Russian Propaganda Up Since Crimea Offensive

NATO and EU officials are increasingly worried about Russia's ability to spread disinformation via TV and internet.

By Reuters On 2/11/17

NATO accused Russia of escalating a disinformation campaign since the Kremlin's 2014 seizure of Ukraine's Crimea region, saying Russian websites such as Sputnik and RT had posted false stories, the alliance's spokeswoman said on Saturday.

There is increasing concern among senior NATO and European Union officials over Russia's ability to use television and the Internet to spread what they say is fake news.

The defense alliance of 28 democracies says it has recorded more than a score of Russian myths in the last two years which it has attempted to knock down with factsheets, interviews, rebuttals and videos.

http://europe.newsweek.com/nato-russian-propaganda-crimea-offensive-55
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http://ps.ibt.com/2016/12/12/top-tips-1481539254.mp4


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Monday, February 13, 2017 6:47 PM

1KIKI



Now I know you're not supposed to feed trolls - but maybe baiting them is OK. HEY THUGGER! I just called you a troll over here! http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61366




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, February 13, 2017 7:03 PM

THGRRI

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Gone fishing, back later.



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Monday, February 13, 2017 7:35 PM

1KIKI


Too humiliated to deny being a troll? Well - I guess that proves it! By his own inability to say he's not a troll, THUGGER has called himself one!




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:40 AM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Too humiliated to deny being a troll? Well - I guess that proves it! By his own inability to say he's not a troll, THUGGER has called himself one!




Speaking of Russia Trolls. See ya, bye



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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 11:02 AM

THGRRI

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This is only the pulling of the first string. His top advisors are a joke and a danger to this country's well being. It only took three weeks. You guys loved to kill Hillary for not taking national security seriously. So now I want to hear you give Trump equal time. Besides the Flynn scandal, he had an open air security briefing at his key largo golf course. He was surrounded by the general public as he was being briefed on his cell phone ( his cell phone ) about North Korea. Big mistake, big mistake.

Lets hear it SIG. Your guy is turning out to be a disaster. Come on 1kiki, SIG. let's hear the outrage.

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Tuesday, February 14, 2017 4:30 PM

THGRRI

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ISIS Doesn't Stand A Chance, Unless America 'Engages' Russia

The proposal that America engage Russia to fight Islamic terrorism is beyond folly. Russia’s recent intrusion into America’s electoral process may flag caution. But that is woefully insufficient. The proposal is either willed ignorance or studied reality reversal.

First, the proposal dismisses Russia as the overarching existential threat to our existence, both as a free democratic society and physically. For all its savagery, ISIS is not an existential threat, whether to the U.S. or to Europe. ISIS beheads individuals. The Kremlin decapitates entire democratic processes. Russia has and is everything ISIS does not and is not. Russia remains, as was the Soviet Union, the largest country on earth, including an entire third of Asia. It seamlessly projects its power across 11 times zones, from Europe to the Sea of Japan to miles within the U.S. border. Its combined nuclear/conventional/chemical/biological arsenal transcends anything we can muster.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2017/02/14/isis-doesnt-stand-a-ch
ance-unless-america-engages-russia/#2a74b13f5fc1



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Monday, February 27, 2017 8:44 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I also want to upend ' liberal democracy '.

Too much honesty about our leaders and their corruption!! Oh no!!


Spare me.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall


Rap,

Would be ironic if Russia upended our own socialism by telling the truth about it.

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Monday, February 27, 2017 9:12 AM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I also want to upend ' liberal democracy '.

Too much honesty about our leaders and their corruption!! Oh no!!


Spare me.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall


Rap,

Would be ironic if Russia upended our own socialism by telling the truth about it.



Ok, I see. Where you from dreamtrove?

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Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:16 AM

DREAMTROVE


New York, you?

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Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:19 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just a couple of comments

Quote:

I have issues with extreme points of view myself rap. Many of those points of view come from you. However, Patton would roll over in his grave if he saw what you posted instead of coming together to push Putin back. - THUGR
"Back" to where? Russia? That's where he is!

Quote:

This is only the pulling of the first string. His top advisors are a joke and a danger to this country's well being. It only took three weeks. You guys loved to kill Hillary for not taking national security seriously- THUGR
No, I was busting Hillary's chops for being more invested in representing Saudi Arabia's interests than ours.



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Friday, March 10, 2017 8:44 PM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


Julian Assange and Russia

During the press conference, Assange tried to back away from accusations linking him to Russia and said the WikiLeaks operation was “a neutral, digital Switzerland.”

However, some experts question the organization’s motives, pointing to alleged ties between WikiLeaks and Russia.

"Everything they have done over the last few months suggests they are operating as a front for a different leaker [Russia],” Ryan Kalember, SVP of Cybersecurity Strategy at Proofpoint, told the Guardian .

Kalember added the apparent ties to the Kremlin and WikiLeaks’ record of publishing identifying information about individuals has dwindled trust in the organization.

“No one in the information security community really trusts him and his motives,” he said. “I think at this point Assange is effectively acting in the service of the Russian government, whether intentionally or not,” said Kalember.

Assange has been viewed as favoring Trump after WikiLeaks released hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman John Podesta last year. Top U.S. intel officials believe Russia hacked Democrats to help President Donald Trump win the election last November. A Russian state-backed group called Cozy Bear is believed to be behind the DNC hacks last year. The release of hacked documents had a major impact on Clinton’s presidency bid, leading her to lose the election to Trump.

http://www.ibtimes.com/wikileaks-cia-news-tech-companies-question-assa
nges-help-ties-russia-2506445



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Tuesday, March 14, 2017 10:59 AM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Now I know you're not supposed to feed trolls - but maybe baiting them is OK. HEY THUGGER! I just called you a troll over here! http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61366








He speaks about flooding a country with fake news. To play on peoples emotions. To feed what they perceive is wrong and incite them into destroying something rather than fixing it. That's you and SIG, 1kiki.



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Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:06 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
He speaks about flooding a country with fake news. To play on peoples emotions. To feed what they perceive is wrong and incite them into destroying something rather than fixing it.








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Wednesday, March 15, 2017 8:49 PM

THGRRI

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Tell it to McCain and Graham. Or are they trolling as well when they say the same thing?

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Thursday, March 16, 2017 1:11 AM

6STRINGJOKER


I've seen a lot of destruction in the last year or two.

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Monday, March 20, 2017 4:58 PM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
I also want to upend ' liberal democracy '.

Too much honesty about our leaders and their corruption!! Oh no!!
Spare me.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.


Rap,

Would be ironic if Russia upended our own socialism by telling the truth about it.




It would be impossible.



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SIG says I'm a deep state troll.oh me, oh my.


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