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Saturday, March 9, 2019 6:34 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I AM sticking to the topic: SECOND blames Trump for anything from The Black Plague to the long-term stagnation of our space program. I'm simply pointing out that SECOND is, in a word, nuts, and that you're willfully ignorant.

Trump is a great benefactor to people like me. I love his tax cut for 1 Percenters. I would love to see the same intensive tax audit for Trump that Paul Manafort received. Trump having to pay back taxes would be good for the Treasury. I’d love that.

Manfort forfeited five New York homes worth an estimated $22 million as part of his plea deal with Mueller, including a Trump Tower condo.
www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/manafort-forfeits-22-million-new-yor
k-real-estate-plea-deal-n909596


Trump is at least 100 time richer than Manafort. Trump would owe $2.2 billion. I would love to read Trump’s tweets about how unfair it is.

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Saturday, March 9, 2019 6:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Then there is Trump building more nukes, at great cost, with no justification. Trump’s nuclear policy could get us all killed. https://qz.com/1566325/ You would think Trump voters would notice.



Your cows farting could get us all killed. I don't see you doing anything about that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I'm in the cattle and natural gas businesses. The millions of tons of methane from N.G. and the CO2 from burning the N.G. that I produce has more climate change affect than the few thousands of pounds of methane from flatulent cows. I'm NOT forcing Trump voters to eat meat or burn gas. I'd stop raising cows and shut in the wells if Trump voters stopped buying. But they aren't stopping because they believe there is no such thing as the greenhouse gas effect.



You ever think that maybe people just like eating a cheeseburger and not freezing to death in the winter?

I'm sure you'll find that a very large majority of Clinton voters indulge in a steak from time to time and pay their gas bill on time at the end of the month as well. I'm sure you'd still have plenty of business if your dreams came true and Thanos came down and removed all of the Trump voters overnight.

Maybe it's not politically driven at all.


I dunno. Occam's Razor, and all of that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 10, 2019 12:49 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Only 2,245 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock, as of Sunday.

How exciting. 002232

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Sunday, March 10, 2019 7:16 AM

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It seems to me that the Democrats are going about this the right way even though it is impossible because the GOP controls the Senate to actually impeach and remove Trump before the 2020 election, no matter what is discovered or what kind of smoking gun emerges.

It's a problem that the framers of the Constitution didn’t anticipate. They assumed if ever we had a president who was a demagogue, Congress, regardless of alliances with the president, would do its constitutional duty and not let years go by before doing anything. They would have been shocked not so much by what an odd president we now have but by what a passive Republican Party we have controlling the Senate.

I think the Democrats should be thinking purely in terms of discovering every fact that is relevant about how Trump won office and how he has conducted himself in office. They really should talk as little about impeachment as possible because every time they mention it the other side says: “You see, you’ve already convicted the president and you don’t even have all the facts yet.”

www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-watergate-impeachment-laurence-tribe-135
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Sunday, March 10, 2019 7:31 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,245 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock, as of Sunday.

How exciting. 002232


JewelStaiteFan, Inauguration Day occurs in the USA once every four years on January 20. I am certain that your "Impeachment Clock" needs to be reset for daylight savings time since your number: 2,245 days from now is May 2.

From Sunday, March 10, 2019
Added 2245 days
Result: Friday, May 2, 2025
www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html
www.convertunits.com/dates/daysfromnow/
www.timeanddate.com/holidays/us/inauguration-day

On a matter of more importance, one that shows Trump attempting and failing to lock up Hillary:
www.thedailybeast.com/doj-finds-letter-it-said-didnt-exist-ordering-sc
rutiny-of-uranium-one-hillary-clinton


The fact that they only ‘found’ the letter the same week Matthew Whitaker was heading for the exit makes it hard to see DOJ’s previous denial as anything but a deliberate attempt to conceal the extent to which President Trump’s authoritarian demands were being put into action. The authoritarian instinct in the Trump administration needs to be investigated. Sessions and Whitaker shouldn’t escape accountability by skipping town.

It is black and white proof that Trump ordered them to get Hillary into prison, either one way or the other, even if they had to fake the evidence. But Utah U.S. Attorney John Huber would not, so Trump gave up, at least temporarily. Thankfully, Trump has both a short attention span and is not methodical. Instead, he is disorganized. Sad.

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Sunday, March 10, 2019 8:57 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,245 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock, as of Sunday.

How exciting. 002232


JewelStaiteFan, Inauguration Day occurs in the USA once every four years on January 20. I am certain that your "Impeachment Clock" needs to be reset for daylight savings time since your number: 2,245 days from now is May 2.

From Sunday, March 10, 2019
Added 2245 days
Result: Friday, May 2, 2025





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Sunday, March 10, 2019 9:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Then there is Trump building more nukes, at great cost, with no justification. Trump’s nuclear policy could get us all killed. https://qz.com/1566325/ You would think Trump voters would notice.



Your cows farting could get us all killed. I don't see you doing anything about that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I'm in the cattle and natural gas businesses. The millions of tons of methane from N.G. and the CO2 from burning the N.G. that I produce has more climate change affect than the few thousands of pounds of methane from flatulent cows. I'm NOT forcing Trump voters to eat meat or burn gas. I'd stop raising cows and shut in the wells if Trump voters stopped buying. But they aren't stopping because they believe there is no such thing as the greenhouse gas effect.



You ever think that maybe people just like eating a cheeseburger and not freezing to death in the winter?

I'm sure you'll find that a very large majority of Clinton voters indulge in a steak from time to time and pay their gas bill on time at the end of the month as well. I'm sure you'd still have plenty of business if your dreams came true and Thanos came down and removed all of the Trump voters overnight.

Maybe it's not politically driven at all.


I dunno. Occam's Razor, and all of that.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 10, 2019 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I dunno. Occam's Razor, and all of that.

I do know Occam's Razor says that when 6ixStringJack posts the same thing three times over two days, he could be drunk:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&mid=10712
97#1071297

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&mid=10713
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http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&mid=10713
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Sunday, March 10, 2019 1:32 PM

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Sunday, March 10, 2019 2:01 PM

THG


Oh no Donnie. You've committed a felony amongst other crimes while being President of the United States. Shame on you.
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New Revelations About Trump Just ‘Scratching The Surface


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Sunday, March 10, 2019 2:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I dunno. Occam's Razor, and all of that.

I do know Occam's Razor says that when 6ixStringJack posts the same thing three times over two days, he could be drunk:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&mid=10712
97#1071297

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&mid=10713
13#1071313

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&mid=10713
28#1071328


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Well... That's just a stupid reply.

No. I'm not drunk. Dead sober for over 2 years and 3 months now. Thanks.

Do I need to post it a fourth time for you to reply?

I'm right again, and you know it, so you ignored me twice and now you're attempting to deflect.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 10, 2019 9:30 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Well... That's just a stupid reply.

No. I'm not drunk. Dead sober for over 2 years and 3 months now. Thanks.

Do I need to post it a fourth time for you to reply?

I'm right again, and you know it, so you ignored me twice and now you're attempting to deflect.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your question: "You ever think that maybe people just like eating a cheeseburger and not freezing to death in the winter?" Answer: Sure.

My question: You ever think that maybe Trump just likes eating a cheeseburger and not dying in the prison? Answer: Sure. Those two desires motivate all that he does. Too bad he doesn't have deeper, more complex motives. He'd be a better man if he did. Better President, too. But I'm sorry to tell you the man is shallow. He is not maturing in the job. He will not be blossoming into Abraham Lincoln, although he has compared himself to Honest Abe.

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Sunday, March 10, 2019 10:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Well... That's just a stupid reply.

No. I'm not drunk. Dead sober for over 2 years and 3 months now. Thanks.

Do I need to post it a fourth time for you to reply?

I'm right again, and you know it, so you ignored me twice and now you're attempting to deflect.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Your question: "You ever think that maybe people just like eating a cheeseburger and not freezing to death in the winter?" Answer: Sure.

My question: You ever think that maybe Trump just likes eating a cheeseburger and not dying in the prison? Answer: Sure. Those two desires motivate all that he does. Too bad he doesn't have deeper, more complex motives. He'd be a better man if he did. Better President, too. But I'm sorry to tell you the man is shallow. He is not maturing in the job. He will not be blossoming into Abraham Lincoln, although he has compared himself to Honest Abe.

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Deflecting again...

Your original post:

Quote:

I'm in the cattle and natural gas businesses. The millions of tons of methane from N.G. and the CO2 from burning the N.G. that I produce has more climate change affect than the few thousands of pounds of methane from flatulent cows. I'm NOT forcing Trump voters to eat meat or burn gas. I'd stop raising cows and shut in the wells if Trump voters stopped buying. But they aren't stopping because they believe there is no such thing as the greenhouse gas effect.


My reply:

Quote:

You ever think that maybe people just like eating a cheeseburger and not freezing to death in the winter?

I'm sure you'll find that a very large majority of Clinton voters indulge in a steak from time to time and pay their gas bill on time at the end of the month as well. I'm sure you'd still have plenty of business if your dreams came true and Thanos came down and removed all of the Trump voters overnight.

Maybe it's not politically driven at all.


I dunno. Occam's Razor, and all of that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)






YOU SAID THAT YOU AREN'T FORCING TRUMP VOTERS TO EAT CHEESEBURGERS AND USE NATURAL GAS AND THAT YOU WOULD STOP RAISING COWS AND SHUT DOWN YOUR WELLS IF TRUMP VOTERS STOPPED BUYING.


Would you care to revise that statement now that you're being given the opportunity?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 11, 2019 7:07 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Would you care to revise that statement now that you're being given the opportunity?

Not really. I know plenty of Trump voters. It is easy to get under their skin. They are overly sensitive, touchy, crybabies. It's why they have problems making it in the world. Too bad for them if they are irritated by me or feel their "honor" is besmirched. Here is another story that bothers Trump voters: Deep Throat brought down Nixon by giving reporters for the Washington Post Woodward and Bernstein inside information about Watergate. Deep Throat was the second man at the FBI. Trump knows this history and he dumped FBI Director James Comey and FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe because he doesn't want to end up like Nixon. Trump needs people who pledged their loyalty to him because he committed crimes bigger than Watergate.

Trump also has attacked the top two guys at the Department of Justice: Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Same reason: Trump committed crimes.

Trump also attacked Special Counsel Robert Mueller. Same reason: Trump committed crimes. Trump attacked everyone who ever worked for Mueller. Same reason: Trump committed crimes and he doesn't want to end like Nixon.

www.history.com/news/watergate-deep-throat-fbi-informant-nixon

Last, but not least, Trump remembers Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein bringing down Nixon with their daily stories about Watergate. That newspaper doesn't have any famous reporters working on Trump's story, so Trump attacks the entire newspaper and its owner. Trump doesn't want to end like Nixon. He is doing what Nixon could have done to protect himself from prosecution.

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Monday, March 11, 2019 8:42 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Would you care to revise that statement now that you're being given the opportunity?

Not really. I know plenty of Trump voters. It is easy to get under their skin. They are overly sensitive, touchy, crybabies. It's why they have problems making it in the world. Too bad for them if they are irritated by me or feel their "honor" is besmirched.



That's good enough, buddy.

I didn't think I'd get it, but I just got you to give everybody the exact reply I was looking for.

Everything you post is bullshit.




..... which is why I didn't read anything after what I just quoted, why I never do, and why nobody else ever does either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 11, 2019 8:48 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Everything you post is bullshit.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

At my United MileagePlus account there are 5 security questions. To make it easy to remember the answer, I give the same answer for all of them:

What is your favorite type of movie?
Trump is guilty

What is your favorite warm-weather activity?
Trump is guilty

What was the make of your first car?
Trump is guilty

What is your favorite pizza topping?
Trump is guilty

What is your favorite musical instrument?
Trump is guilty

If I was a Trump voter my answer would be "No Collusion".

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Monday, March 11, 2019 8:54 AM

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Nah... all my answers are "Cow farts are worth it."

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Monday, March 11, 2019 9:34 AM

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Nah... all my answers are "Cow farts are worth it."

Do Right, Be Right. :)

When Mueller stepped down as FBI chief, Obama called him “one of the most admired public servants of our time,” adding, “I know very few people in public life who have shown more integrity more consistently under more pressure than Bob Mueller.”

Trump has given a darker assessment, accusing Mueller of pursuing a “rigged witch hunt” while declining to sit for an interview with the special counsel’s team.

The president in November 2018 wrote on Twitter: “Mueller is a conflicted prosecutor gone rogue. The Fake News Media builds Bob Mueller up as a Saint, when in actuality he is the exact opposite. ... Heroes will come of this, and it won’t be Mueller and his terrible Gang of Angry Democrats.”

He also has faulted Mueller for not investigating Hillary Clinton, the defeated 2016 Democratic presidential candidate.

Trump’s attacks on Mueller appeal to his conservative political base as shown when he won cheers denigrating the special counsel during a March 2 speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Maryland.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-mueller-newsmaker-idUSKBN1
QS17Y


Trump is guilty.

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Monday, March 11, 2019 9:36 AM

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Don't know what that has to do with yummy cheeseburgers and cow farts, but they are so totally worth it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 11, 2019 10:23 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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When Mueller stepped down as FBI chief, Obama called him “one of the most admired public servants of our time,” adding, “I know very few people in public life who have shown more integrity more consistently under more pressure than Bob Mueller.”= SEOCND
I'm going to put this in the "predictions" thread. Not that this is a prediction, but it's a marker of a firm opinion about Mueller.

When Mueller's report comes out, it'll be interestig to see how this opinion holds up. Will it wilt and turn critical, like the Democratic opinion of Comey when he revealed that the FBI had temporarily re-activated its investigation of the Hillary email scandal? Will Democrats turn on Mueller, their "fundamental" opinion of a person not based on fact, law, or morals, but only responsive to whether they think he's for or against their tribe?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Monday, March 11, 2019 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

When Mueller stepped down as FBI chief, Obama called him “one of the most admired public servants of our time,” adding, “I know very few people in public life who have shown more integrity more consistently under more pressure than Bob Mueller.”= SEOCND
I'm going to put this in the "predictions" thread. Not that this is a prediction, but it's a marker of a firm opinion about Mueller.

When Mueller's report comes out, it'll be interestig to see how this opinion holds up. Will it wilt and turn critical, like the Democratic opinion of Comey when he revealed that the FBI had temporarily re-activated its investigation of the Hillary email scandal? Will Democrats turn on Mueller, their "fundamental" opinion of a person not based on fact, law, or morals, but only responsive to whether they think he's for or against their tribe?

When Mueller's report comes out, it will not have the results of a tax audit on Trump. An intensive audit of Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen revealed tax cheating, enough to send them to jail, but Trump is not getting that attention from Mueller, I predict.

There are reasons to believe Trump cheated: he lied about the IRS audits preventing him from showing his returns to the public. He lied about $500,000,000 in estate taxes he didn't pay. He lied about the tax law rewrite that was designed to benefit him. Trump is guilty, but Mueller will leave it to the voters to decide because he already knows that GOP controlled Senate would be Trump's jury in a trial.

It's pointless for Mueller to waste his time making a case against Trump when the jury has already decided Trump is innocent. Mueller spent his time on cases where the jury is not the Republican party.

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-sc
hemes-fred-trump.html


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Monday, March 11, 2019 11:12 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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You think he lied. You want to believe he lied. He might have lied.

Hell. He probably did lie.

You just don't have any proof.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 11, 2019 11:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You think he lied. You want to believe he lied. He might have lied.

Hell. He probably did lie.

You just don't have any proof.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

There is proof:
www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/

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Monday, March 11, 2019 11:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You think he lied. You want to believe he lied. He might have lied.

Hell. He probably did lie.

You just don't have any proof.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

There is proof:
www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/

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I guess you missed this part:

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Whether or not these accusations are legitimate is up to the courts to decide. This is in no way an indictment or direct attack on the president; all we are attempting to do with these events is construct an educational case study. By analyzing these scenarios, we should be able to establish a working knowledge of tax fraud and, by extension, tax law itself.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 11, 2019 1:08 PM

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It doesn't matter how many times or how thoroughly you can show SECOND he was wrong on a point. Like GEEBERS he'll simply bail on the post and come back with another falsehood.

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Originally posted by rue:
It doesn't matter how many times or how thoroughly you can show SECOND he was wrong on a point. Like GEEBERS he'll simply bail on the post and come back with another falsehood.

If this was the real world and Trump was my employee, I'd fire Trump now. If he complained that he had not yet been convicted of embezzlement, and therefore it is unfair to terminate his employment, he is still fired, and escorted by security off the premises, and I would redouble my efforts to get together the proof Trump stole from me, the proof that would be needed by prosecutors when Trump came to trial. Vice President Mike Pence can handle Trump's job immediately. Trump is not an essential employee. He can be replaced easily.

Alternatively, the lying thief Trump could be left in his job, making it possible for him to destroy evidence of his crimes.

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Monday, March 11, 2019 5:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
It doesn't matter how many times or how thoroughly you can show SECOND he was wrong on a point. Like GEEBERS he'll simply bail on the post and come back with another falsehood.

If this was the real world and Trump was my employee, I'd fire Trump now. If he complained that he had not yet been convicted of embezzlement, and therefore it is unfair to terminate his employment, he is still fired, and escorted by security off the premises, and I would redouble my efforts to get together the proof Trump stole from me, the proof that would be needed by prosecutors when Trump came to trial. Vice President Mike Pence can handle Trump's job immediately. Trump is not an essential employee. He can be replaced easily.

Alternatively, the lying thief Trump could be left in his job, making it possible for him to destroy evidence of his crimes.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



I dunno. Sounds like you just don't like the guy because he doesn't agree with your politics.

You bet your ass you'd better redouble your efforts to find proof he did anything wrong, or else you'd be on the wrong end of a wrongful termination suit in the scenario you laid out.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 11, 2019 6:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I dunno. Sounds like you just don't like the guy because he doesn't agree with your politics.

You bet your ass you'd better redouble your efforts to find proof he did anything wrong, or else you'd be on the wrong end of a wrongful termination suit in the scenario you laid out.

Trump has made clear that he will not accept losing the 2020 election. If he loses, the Secret Service will escort him out of the White House and put him on a plane to either Trump Tower, Mar-a-Lago, or Moscow -- it's Trump's choice. Then the prosecutors begin work on convicting Trump of tax evasion.

www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-goldberg-tru
mp-win-2020-democrats-lose-1216-20181214-story.html


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Monday, March 11, 2019 8:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I dunno. Sounds like you just don't like the guy because he doesn't agree with your politics.

You bet your ass you'd better redouble your efforts to find proof he did anything wrong, or else you'd be on the wrong end of a wrongful termination suit in the scenario you laid out.

Trump has made clear that he will not accept losing the 2020 election. If he loses, the Secret Service will escort him out of the White House and put him on a plane to either Trump Tower, Mar-a-Lago, or Moscow -- it's Trump's choice. Then the prosecutors begin work on convicting Trump of tax evasion.

www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-goldberg-tru
mp-win-2020-democrats-lose-1216-20181214-story.html


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Meh... whatever.

You constantly quote my posts, yet never reply at all regarding them.

I grow tired of your changing the subject, moving the goal posts and whatever it is you've convinced yourself as being extremely witty on your part.

*yawn*

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You constantly quote my posts, yet never reply at all regarding them.

I grow tired of your changing the subject, moving the goal posts and whatever it is you've convinced yourself as being extremely witty on your part.

*yawn*

6ix, stop responding. Show self-control. Then brag about your superiority.

The Power of Petty Personal Rage
Hamburger paranoia, drinking straw police, and the state of the right.
www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/opinion/captain-marvel-republican-rage.html

Demented anger is a significant factor in modern American political life — and overwhelmingly on one side. All that talk about liberal “snowflakes” is projection; if you really want to see people driven wild by tiny perceived slights and insults, you’ll generally find them on the right.

Just to be clear: I’m not saying that most conservatives are filled with rage over petty things. What I’m saying instead is that most of those filled with such rage are conservatives, and they supply much of the movement’s energy. Not to put too fine a point on it, pathological pettiness almost surely put Donald Trump over the top in the 2016 election.

We should realize what’s happening. It may be comforting to believe that politics is driven by more or less rational considerations of costs and benefits. But the reality is that a lot of it is driven by unreasoning rage.

More at www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/opinion/captain-marvel-republican-rage.html

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Monday, March 11, 2019 9:50 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


"most of those filled with such rage are conservatives"

You seem filled with petty rage. Are you conservative?

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Monday, March 11, 2019 11:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You constantly quote my posts, yet never reply at all regarding them.

I grow tired of your changing the subject, moving the goal posts and whatever it is you've convinced yourself as being extremely witty on your part.

*yawn*

6ix, stop responding. Show self-control. Then brag about your superiority.



Why should I stop responding? My posts are on point.

You have no focus or self control.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"most of those filled with such rage are conservatives"

You seem filled with petty rage. Are you conservative?


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why should I stop responding? My posts are on point.

You have no focus or self control.

You two prove that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is correct. She understands the rue/1kiki and 6ix type of American. Pelosi concluded that impeaching Trump would make everything worse. Too many Trump supporters are overly proud of themselves and their intellect and they won’t turn against Trump because that would be admitting voting for him was a mistake. Impeachment will only make them more stubborn, and governing more difficult. Who wants another government shutdown that accomplishes nothing? Trump does, that's who, if he is impeached.
https://theweek.com/articles/828544/impeaching-trump-worth-risk

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Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:00 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"most of those filled with such rage are conservatives"

You seem filled with petty rage. Are you conservative?


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why should I stop responding? My posts are on point.

You have no focus or self control.

You two prove that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is correct. She understands the rue/1kiki and 6ix type of American. Pelosi concluded that impeaching Trump would make everything worse. Too many Trump supporters are overly proud of themselves and their intellect and they won’t turn against Trump because that would be admitting voting for him was a mistake. Impeachment will only make them more stubborn, and governing more difficult. Who wants another government shutdown that accomplishes nothing? Trump does, that's who, if he is impeached.
https://theweek.com/articles/828544/impeaching-trump-worth-risk



Oh please...

Spare me your cunty, Democratic elitism.

If you could blow yourself, you would.



Anybody want to chime in on how often we get to hear how great and rich Second is?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:02 AM

THG


Pelosi removed the rights tool for firing up the troops. No impeachment "he isn't worth it".

If Mueller's report sets it up or congress collects enough evidence to where republicans have to vote for impeachment, then Pelosi will start the wheels rolling quicker than you can say, get em. Until then congress will continue to gather the evidence.

The important thing is to get a democratic president into office. Then the indictments against Trump and his family can begin without concerns that they will be pardoned.

tick tock

T



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Tuesday, March 12, 2019 10:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oh please...

Spare me your cunty, Democratic elitism.

What is the opposite of elitism? It is dumb-ass-ism.
6ix, I remember you were concerned about riots breaking out, with looting and fires, if SNAP or food stamps were not paid out because of Trump’s shutdown. It was only two months ago. Have you already forgotten? You did not make the connection that it was Trump’s shutdown, making it all Trump’s fault. You did not turn against Trump. What is it going to take? Maybe Trump bringing a 5 gallon container of gasoline into the Lincoln bedroom and setting the White House on fire? Will you justify Trump torching the place because he is the President and he can do as he wants with it?

Trump's Government Shutdown Cost The U.S. Economy $11 Billion. Nice work, Trump. Burning down the White House would have been cheaper and just as ineffective at achieving your goal.
www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2019/01/30/the-government-shutdown-
cost-the-u-s-economy-11-billion-infographic
/

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Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:32 PM

THG


New York attorney general subpoenas banks about Trump projects. State investigators are seeking records from Deutsche Bank and Investors Bank on Trump projects as a result of Michael Cohen's congressional testimony.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/new-york-attorney-genera
l-subpoenas-banks-about-trump-projects-n982291


tick tock

T



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Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:53 PM

RUE

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"Trump's Government Shutdown Cost The U.S. Economy $11 Billion. Nice work, Trump."

The shutdown lasted 35 days. "The GDP figure in 2018 was $20,500,600 million". Or, $20,501 billion. On an annual basis, the shutdown cost the economy about 0.05% GDP.

That wouldn't even make a minuscule dent in greenhouse gas emissions. dubya did a much better job.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2019 8:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
"Trump's Government Shutdown Cost The U.S. Economy $11 Billion. Nice work, Trump."

The shutdown lasted 35 days. "The GDP figure in 2018 was $20,500,600 million". Or, $20,501 billion. On an annual basis, the shutdown cost the economy about 0.05% GDP.

That wouldn't even make a minuscule dent in greenhouse gas emissions. dubya did a much better job.

In the corporate world, a multi-billion dollar blunder such as Trump committed by shutting down the government would get the CEO fired by the board of directors, after the board considers what action to take for about 5 minutes. But the U.S. government can't take swift action because it wasn't designed for it. The basic design is still the same half-ass arrangement that George Washington operated under. But if the government did get around to voting on the matter, it probably would fail to make a decision. It has failed twice in the past: President Andrew Johnson and President Clinton. There wasn't a good reason NOT to fire these guys, but it didn't happen. There were replacements standing ready to jump into the job of being President, but the Senate couldn't make a decision. If the Capitol building was on fire and the Senate had to vote before any Senator could leave the burning building, they would all be dead. If the Senate had a year to make the decision, they would still all be dead.

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It shouldn’t take a special counsel to catch Trump cheating on his taxes.

From a policy standpoint, the single most important thing about former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort’s sentencing on Wednesday in federal court is an observation from his lawyers: He would never have even ended up charged under normal circumstances.

If Manafort had not gotten caught up in special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, his lawyers argued to two different judges, he’d never been arrested or charged for white-collar crimes.

From a legal standpoint, the argument “and I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren’t for you meddling special counsels” isn’t especially strong. Judge Amy Berman in Washington, DC, rejected it.

If Trump had lost the election, no special prosecutor would have been appointed, and Manafort’s various tax evasions and other frauds would have gone undetected.

But the problem isn’t the federal government punishing Manafort (or Trump) for tax cheating, it’s how rarely the perpetrators of tax cheating go to jail. They pay what they always owed and there is no prison time. But mostly they don't get caught and they pay nothing.

More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/13/18264082/paul-manafort-sente
nce-white-collar-crime


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Wednesday, March 13, 2019 3:57 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

In the corporate world, a multi-billion dollar blunder such as Trump committed by shutting down the government would get the CEO fired by the board of directors, after the board considers what action to take for about 5 minutes.
Baloney.

1) This isn't the corporate world, so the comparison is void, and

2) Even in the corporate world, people like Steve Lampert and Elon Musk have survived for years, if not decades.

As usual, more bullshit from SECOND.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Wednesday, March 13, 2019 4:17 PM

THG


Email: Lawyer said Michael Cohen could 'sleep well tonight' after speaking to Rudy Giuliani


An attorney who said he was speaking with President Donald Trump's lawyer Rudy Giuliani reassured Michael Cohen in an April 2018 email that Cohen could "sleep well tonight" because he had "friends in high places," according to a copy of an email obtained by CNN.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/email-lawyer-said-michael-cohe
n-could-sleep-well-tonight-after-speaking-to-rudy-giuliani/ar-BBUJpva?ocid=spartandhp


Oh no Rudy, say it ain't so...

tick tock

T



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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

More bullshit from SECOND.

More bullshit from Signym.

Judge strongly rebukes Manafort’s — and Trump’s — ‘no collusion’ refrain

Today, Manafort’s lawyer said, “Two courts have ruled no evidence of any collusion with any Russians.” The judge called the lawyer a liar.

Why did Manafort’s lawyer make an untrue claim?

The answer is that Donald Trump likes to pretend that people keep exonerating him in the Russia scandal. If Manafort’s defense team can align themselves with the president, perhaps Trump would give his former campaign chair a get-out-of-jail free card.

Whether or not this ploy will work is not yet clear – White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told reporters this week that Trump will make a pardon decision “when he is ready” – but either way, Manafort’s lawyer is hardly being subtle.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/13/paul-manaforts-judge-strong
ly-rebukes-manaforts-trumps-no-collusion-refrain
/

The cemeteries are full of men this world could not get along without, and note the fact that things move along after each funeral procession at about the same gait they went before. This is true of Trump even more than normal.
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/11/21/graveyards-full/

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

In the corporate world, a multi-billion dollar blunder such as Trump committed by shutting down the government would get the CEO fired by the board of directors, after the board considers what action to take for about 5 minutes.
Baloney.

1) This isn't the corporate world, so the comparison is void, and

2) Even in the corporate world, people like Steve Lampert and Elon Musk have survived for years, if not decades.

As usual, more bullshit from SECOND.

https://qz.com/1243608/

In Korea, President Park was removed in only 4 months by the legislature. Then the trial began in a normal courtroom. Then prison. If the Senate had not already prejudged Trump as innocent, he would have been out of office long ago. His trial could come in a normal courtroom, then prison.

Park Geun-hye: South Korea's ex-leader jailed for 24 years for corruption
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43666134
How many years will Trump get for cheating on his taxes? About the same as Nixon's V.P. Spiro Agnew. Zero. Nixon also cheated on his taxes, but he was pardoned by President Gerald Ford for all possible crimes, both known and unknown. It is the American way. America could learn from S Korea how to handle Presidents.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2019 5:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
The shutdown lasted 35 days. "The GDP figure in 2018 was $20,500,600 million". Or, $20,501 billion. On an annual basis, the shutdown cost the economy about 0.05% GDP.

That wouldn't even make a minuscule dent in greenhouse gas emissions. dubya did a much better job.

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
In the corporate world, a multi-billion dollar blunder such as Trump committed by shutting down the government would get the CEO fired by the board of directors ...

Are you stupid and lying sack of shit troll, or what???

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
The shutdown lasted 35 days. "The GDP figure in 2018 was $20,500,600 million". Or, $20,501 billion. On an annual basis, the shutdown cost the economy about 0.05% GDP.

That wouldn't even make a minuscule dent in greenhouse gas emissions. dubya did a much better job.

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
In the corporate world, a multi-billion dollar blunder such as Trump committed by shutting down the government would get the CEO fired by the board of directors ...

Are you stupid and lying sack of shit troll, or what???

When you do this, rue, you look like a Russian troll. Take a look at what happens to a cheating, lying President in South Korea: www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43666134

24 years in jail.

Different President also in jail: Former South Korea president Lee Myung-bak was sentenced to 15 years in prison.
www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45756561

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oh please...

Spare me your cunty, Democratic elitism.

What is the opposite of elitism? It is dumb-ass-ism.
6ix, I remember you were concerned about riots breaking out, with looting and fires, if SNAP or food stamps were not paid out because of Trump’s shutdown. It was only two months ago. Have you already forgotten? You did not make the connection that it was Trump’s shutdown, making it all Trump’s fault. You did not turn against Trump. What is it going to take? Maybe Trump bringing a 5 gallon container of gasoline into the Lincoln bedroom and setting the White House on fire? Will you justify Trump torching the place because he is the President and he can do as he wants with it?

Trump's Government Shutdown Cost The U.S. Economy $11 Billion. Nice work, Trump. Burning down the White House would have been cheaper and just as ineffective at achieving your goal.
www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2019/01/30/the-government-shutdown-
cost-the-u-s-economy-11-billion-infographic
/

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I wasn't worried about it. I said that is what would happen if SNAP ran out, and I also said that is why there was no way in hell that SNAP would run out and it was just another coordinated hit piece on Trump.

So, yeah.

I remember being right. Again.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
When you do this, rue, you look like a Russian troll. Take a look at what happens to a cheating, lying President in South Korea ...

Aside from dragging out the libelous RussianTroll meme (btw, I was waiting till I retired and had some spare time to pursue this, so thanks for making it meaningful again) ... you'd have a FAR better case if you could point out what happens to a cheating, lying President in the USA. Take your time.



But, until you can, (and I know you can't) thanks for demonstrating - again - what an IRRELEVANT stupid and lying sack of shit troll you are!

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Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:15 PM

RUE

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And, SECOND-RATE, on this page alone I see you got proven wrong on every single claim.

You need better talking points.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2019 10:21 PM

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Quote:

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And, SECOND-RATE, on this page alone I see you got proven wrong on every single claim.

You need better talking points.

Spot on.

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