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Friday, March 15, 2019 8:41 PM

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Even as staunch an advocate of presidential authority as William Barr agreed in his confirmation hearings that dangling pardons could be obstruction of justice. “Do you believe a president could lawfully issue a pardon in exchange for the recipient’s promise to not incriminate him?” asked Senator Pat Leahy. “No. That would be a crime,” replied Barr.

Michael Cohen has email showing Trump obstructed Justice by dangling pardon.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/cohen-email-trump-dangled-pardo
n-obstruction-justice-mueller.html


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I'll ask if you actually read the article beyond the title before I say anything more.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

If you want to point out that the email came from a lawyer working for Rudy, who is working for Trump, then claim that means Trump has plausible deniability that Trump personally obstructed justice, please do so. The last President to get close to impeachment, Nixon, had intermediaries between himself and the employees who went to jail. There were Watergate Tapes, but Trump is not recording himself. He learned that lesson from Nixon.
www.history.com/news/watergate-where-are-they-now

"On July 30, under coercion from the Supreme Court, Nixon finally released the Watergate tapes. On August 5, transcripts of the recordings were released, including a segment in which the president was heard instructing Haldeman to order the FBI to halt the Watergate investigation. Three days later, Nixon announced his resignation."
www.history.com/this-day-in-history/nixon-resigns

Now that I think of it, Nixon didn't have to resign. He could have been stubborn, destroyed the tapes, and forced Congress to go through the uncertain legal process of removing him. Without the tapes, the end of his term in office would have arrived before the wheels of justice had finished turning in the Senate, but Nixon exited early so that he could get a pardon and avoid being prosecuted after leaving office.

Trump will be stubborn and create much unnecessary trouble for himself in retirement, unlike Nixon. Trump will be in courtrooms for years after he leaves office. Nixon had a peaceful retirement, avoided all that legal maneuvering, because he was smarter than Trump.

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Trump will do just fine in retirement.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 8:45 AM

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See the date in this headline? 2012: Sen. Ted Cruz fined $35,000 by Federal Elections Commission over 2012 loans

www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/Sen-Ted-Cruz-fine
d-35-000-by-Federal-Elections-13692285.php


If it takes 7 years to decide on the correct punishment for Ted Cruz in this trivial matter, it will take 7 years for government to decide Trump's punishment.

The Federal Election Commission this week issued a $35,000 fine to Sen. Ted Cruz for failing to disclose more than $1 million in campaign loans from Citibank and Goldman Sachs.

The commission found that Cruz took out loans from the banks for use in his 2012 Senate campaign but improperly reported them as coming from his “personal funds,” according to the settlement agreement posted online by the Campaign Legal Center.

“As has repeatedly been reported, the loans were public at the time and fully disclosed on Senate ethics disclosures, but they weren’t reported correctly on the FEC forms,” said Cruz campaign spokeswoman Catherine Frazier, referring to a New York Times report from 2016. “This agreed settlement resolves that filing mistake once and for all.”

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:14 AM

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See the date in this headline? 2012: Sen. Ted Cruz fined $35,000 by Federal Elections Commission over 2012 loans

www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/Sen-Ted-Cruz-fine
d-35-000-by-Federal-Elections-13692285.php


If it takes 7 years to decide on the correct punishment for Ted Cruz in this trivial matter, it will take 7 years for government to decide Trump's punishment.

The Federal Election Commission this week issued a $35,000 fine to Sen. Ted Cruz for failing to disclose more than $1 million in campaign loans from Citibank and Goldman Sachs.

The commission found that Cruz took out loans from the banks for use in his 2012 Senate campaign but improperly reported them as coming from his “personal funds,” according to the settlement agreement posted online by the Campaign Legal Center.

“As has repeatedly been reported, the loans were public at the time and fully disclosed on Senate ethics disclosures, but they weren’t reported correctly on the FEC forms,” said Cruz campaign spokeswoman Catherine Frazier, referring to a New York Times report from 2016. “This agreed settlement resolves that filing mistake once and for all.”

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Yeah. First they had better establish that there was, yanno, an actual crime first.

Then you better hope they don't come after you for being a tax cheat too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Trump will do just fine in retirement.

Yes, he will be laundering money: On the Trump-Russia Conspiracy, Follow the Laundered Money

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/03/11/on-the-trump-russia-conspirac
y-follow-the-laundered-money
/

The Reuters report examined Trump-branded buildings in Florida because “determining the ownership of properties is easier there than in some other states.” A report from McClatchy found this:

Buyers connected to Russia or former Soviet republics made 86 all-cash sales — totaling nearly $109 million — at 10 Trump-branded properties in South Florida and New York City, according to a new analysis shared with McClatchy. Many of them made purchases using shell companies designed to obscure their identities.

As with the Reuters report, this analysis would only include those where the buyer was traceable, suggesting that the total is probably incomplete. But it is worth noting that these were “all-cash sales,” which turn illegally earned cash into a legitimate asset for the buyer.

The picture all of this paints is of a U.S. president who is knee-deep in laundered Russian money from a system that Putin and his kleptocratic friends have a strong interest in protecting. Perhaps that is why, as Natasha Bertand explained, Donald Trump seems to be trying to rid the government of experts in Russian money laundering.

More at https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/03/11/on-the-trump-russia-conspirac
y-follow-the-laundered-money
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Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:39 AM

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Whatever . . .

If Trump ever gets caught, you will drop the whatever attitude, jump to Trump's defense, and attack the Democrats. Maybe all three simultaneously. I don't believe Trump benefited you as much as he has me and I don't have to do a damn thing for Trump. I can attack him and yet the benefits designed to enrich Trump keep on flowing to me. It's a great system if you are in the upper 50% of Americans. It's bad for the lower 50%. But how else could it be if you elect billionaires?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States


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Whatever . . .

Trump won overwhelmingly with white shoppers at Dollar stores. They praise Trump, but they are also still shopping at the Dollar store because Trump has kept them in their place, in the bottom 50%, with one psychological benefit: their White Man is now in the White House and maintaining the same old status quo where they stay on the bottom until they die. It is a great country for billionaires! Four more years! Four more years! For Trump!

"What Dollar Stores Tell Us About Electoral Politics"
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/03/09/what-dollar-stores-tell-us-ab
out-electoral-politics
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Saturday, March 16, 2019 5:25 PM

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Trump says he told House GOP to 'play along' on Mueller report vote. Can you say that's funny? I can, I can say that's funny.

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 5:30 PM

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NY attorney general wants Trump fined $5.6M over charity

NEW YORK (AP) - New York's attorney general says President Donald Trump should pay a fine of as much as $5.6 million over allegations in a state lawsuit that he used his charity to further his presidential campaign.

https://www.wktv.com/content/news/NY-attorney-general-wants-Trump-fine
d-56M-over-charity-507225151.html


tick tock tick tock

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Whatever ...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Inside a Flat Earth convention in North Carolina, where nearly everyone believes Trump is good and Hillary is evil.


The organizer of the Flat Earth convention has not changed his mind in 2019. He remains convinced Trump is good and Hillary is evil. He will explain how he knows on National Geographic.



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Whatever ...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Inside a Flat Earth convention in North Carolina, where nearly everyone believes Trump is good and Hillary is evil.


The organizer of the Flat Earth convention has not changed his mind in 2019. He remains convinced Trump is good and Hillary is evil. He will explain how he knows on National Geographic.



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Do you like dogs, Second.

Adolph Hitler loved dogs.

All dog lovers are Nazis.

You're an idiot.

That's called a false equivalency.

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 8:41 PM

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Trump says he told House GOP to 'play along' on Mueller report vote. Can you say that's funny? I can, I can say that's funny.

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I think it's hilarious. I reckon it's not for the same reasons that made you laugh though.

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Do you like dogs, Second.

Adolph Hitler loved dogs.

All dog lovers are Nazis.

You're an idiot.

That's called a false equivalency.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Per your usual, 6ix, you missed the point that Trump lovers understand Trump no better than Flat Earthers understand a spherical Earth.

There are astronauts in Texas who will testify that the Earth is round, having seen it from the International Space Station (ISS). Newspapers implicitly cover that spherical Earth theory every time astronauts go to or from the ISS. Does that change the minds of Flat Earthers? It does not.

Similarly, Trump is crook is as easy to understand as the Earth is a globe. You don’t have to go to the ISS or work closely with Trump to know these things. The news covers Trump all the time. But Trump lovers fundamentally misunderstand Trump and do not change their minds about him.

6ix, you have never been to the Space Station to see the spherical Earth and you never seen a rich liar/crook/conman up close with Trump-ish characteristics and never had to deal with them but there are dozens of them in Texas, one of them in the White House, and they are easy to understand for what they are.

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:41 PM

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Hey folks: I refuse to get excited over anything that Trump does until you all get excited about things that the Clintons and Obama did that were equally reprehensible.


Start complaining about that, and I'll complain (more) about Trump. Until you do you're just wasting your hysteria in a pointless demonstration of hypocrisy.

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:41 PM

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 10:46 PM

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Not one mention on this page about how Trump colluded with Russia to throw the 2016 election.

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Saturday, March 16, 2019 10:51 PM

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Not one mention on this page about how Trump colluded with Russia to throw the 2016 election.



Of course. To people with the attention span of a goldfish, it will be as if it never happened. Welcome to the X-files.

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Sunday, March 17, 2019 12:21 AM

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19 posts today?
13 yesterday?
36 the day before?
That's a bunch of Troll Feeding.

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Not one mention on this page about how Trump colluded with Russia to throw the 2016 election.

Does anyone remember the bankruptcy of Enron? It was a huge deal in Houston for a month and then it was nothing. It was forgotten by everybody, except those who made or lost a fortune. The election of 2016 is the same. People forget unless it is in the news or it happened to them.

You can see how erratic American justice will be for Trump by looking at the trial of Kenneth Lay, the chairman of Enron, a Houston based corporation. www.investopedia.com/updates/enron-scandal-summary/ :

The Enron accounting scandal was publicized in October 2001. Ken Lay was revealed as a huge liar because of a recession. He had always been a liar, but now even the most gullible Enron stock owners realized they had been cheated. The least gullible (me, for one) had sold their Enron shares in the year 2000. (Doing that makes me look bad, but I’d rather be positively evil than lose money. Let the middle class suckers lose their retirement savings, instead of me losing my investment, because they trusted the kindly & Christian faithful Ken Lay. I’m not a Christian and I don’t automatically trust them until they prove themselves.)

Enron stock price goes from $90.75 per share in mid-2000 to less than $1 by the end of November 2001. Ken Lay goes into retirement. In the background, his lawyers are working while he has a carefree life since he sold his shares before the crash.

The Ken Lay trial began January 30, 2006. This is an open-and-shut case, yet four years pass before the trial starts.

The jury reached its verdict on May 25, 2006, convicting Ken Lay. His lawyers will appeal, explaining that he is completely innocent and that it is the Enron accountants who are the real crooks. Trump will similarly be blaming his subordinates.

Ken Lay died from a heart attack on July 5, 2006, before he was sentenced, and his convictions were vacated on October 17, 2006, meaning the convictions never happened.

See? This is American justice. All that trouble, years of litigation, and the result is nothing at all is accomplished about Ken Lay. The same could happen to Trump. He delays and delays some more, then he dies, and its as if he never did a wrong thing in his life, at least as far as the American legal system is concerned.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Kenneth_Lay_and_Jeffrey_Skill
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Ken Lay could have settled the case with prosecutors by paying a fine and would not have even gone to trial except wealthy people lost $billions on Enron stock. They were angry. They wanted prosecutors to punish Ken Lay. Nobody is losing their investment because of Trump. There isn't that motivation to place Trump on trial. If a case is ever made against Trump, he will settle it with a payment, after litigating it for years. See Trump University for how that works.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
19 posts today?
13 yesterday?
36 the day before?
That's a bunch of Troll Feeding.

What does a megalomaniacal president of the United States do when he feels cornered? Maybe we’ll find out. Or maybe it will be Trump's "Fire and Fury like the World has never seen" and then Trump does nothing to Kim of North Korea, except throw him two parties and international conferences.

Trump cannot abide losing. His ego can’t contain humiliation.

So what does a cornered Trump do? For starters, he raises the specter of violence against his political opponents.

In an interview with Breitbart News published on Wednesday, Trump noted: “I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough – until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.”

In case you missed it, “they” are Trump’s political opponents, including House Democrats and the mainstream media. And the “certain point” could be impeachment but is more likely to be reached if the House investigations reveal crimes Trump committed both before and after he became president.

“I actually think that the people on the right are tougher,” Trump warned in the same interview. “But the left plays it cuter and tougher. Like with all the nonsense that they do in Congress ... with all this invest[igations] – that’s all they want to do is – you know, they do things that are nasty.”

Here we have it, in a nutshell. In Trump’s mind, congressional investigations that could cause him shame and humiliation, and quite possibly result in a prison sentence, will be countered by forces loyal to him: the police, the military, and vigilante groups like Bikers for Trump.

To put it another way, the work of a democratically elected Congress will be met by Trump loyalists who, he asserts, are “tougher” because they have brute force on their side.

More at www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2019/mar/16/donald-trump-bre
itbart-interview-white-supremacy


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Sunday, March 17, 2019 8:36 AM

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Trump changes direction, says there ‘should be no Mueller Report’

Donald Trump has thrown plenty of tantrums, online and off. The president has lashed out at Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation; he’s condemned the probe as “illegal”; and he’s accused Democrats of being guilty of the transgressions he’s been accused of. So the fact that Trump did all of these same things in a series of tweets this morning wouldn’t ordinarily be of any real interest.

Except, this time, the Republican, perhaps feeling some anxiety about what’s to come, went just a little further than he has before.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-changes-direction-says-t
here-should-be-no-mueller-report


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Trump changes direction, says there ‘should be no Mueller Report’

Donald Trump has thrown plenty of tantrums, online and off. The president has lashed out at Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation; he’s condemned the probe as “illegal”; and he’s accused Democrats of being guilty of the transgressions he’s been accused of. So the fact that Trump did all of these same things in a series of tweets this morning wouldn’t ordinarily be of any real interest.

Except, this time, the Republican, perhaps feeling some anxiety about what’s to come, went just a little further than he has before.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-changes-direction-says-t
here-should-be-no-mueller-report

I believe it is impossible for the Mueller report, no matter what is it, to persuade Senate Republicans to replace Trump with Pence. Pence got exactly the same number of Electoral College votes as Trump got. Pence deserves the job of being President just as much as Trump and Pence has a relatively clean past. Yet Senate Republicans won't dump Trump because they are afraid of Trump lovers voting the Senators out during primary elections. The only way to be rid of Trump is if Pence stealthily shoves Trump down a flight of stairs at the White House, breaking his neck. With one "accident", Pence secretly saves the GOP Senators from Trump and the wrath of Trump lovers. Once dead, the myth of how great Trump could have been will grow forever, much the same as the myth about JFK.

Pence had better make his move soon because there are "Seven VP Candidates if Trump Dumps Pence for 2020 Re-Election Fight"
www.rollcall.com/news/politics/seven-vp-candidates-trump-dumps-pence-2
020-re-election-fight


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Sunday, March 17, 2019 10:18 AM

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I believe things change second. Especially as more and more is revealed. I also wouldn't count out Mueller having dirt on Pence myself. He may also be up to his neck in the Russian conspiracy.

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I believe things change second. Especially as more and more is revealed. I also wouldn't count out Mueller having dirt on Pence myself. He may also be up to his neck in the Russian conspiracy.

Where the Mueller Report will have weight is in the 2020 election. It might move a few thousand voters one way or the other. But if the Senate was not full of mental lightweight GOP Senators (John Cornyn and Ted Cruz from TX) the report would weight upon their decision making about being rid of Trump, too. Now the only thing those Senators think of when they think of that report is what will happen to themselves if they act like they understand Trump's extremely colorful history of lying, cheating, and conning people. Since Trump never went to jail, he only paid plaintiffs, GOP Senators can pretend it never happened.

For as long as Trump is not convicted of a crime by Mueller, the GOP can pretend there is nothing damaging in a future Mueller report. Since Mueller doesn't even have the authority to arrest Trump like he did Roger Stone or Paul Manafort, Mueller cannot get Trump in court. There will be no trial until Trump is a civilian. Then the law can hammer Trump into an early grave unless Trump pardons himself on his way out. Then Trump's lawyers will argue that the pardon is valid, and many years will pass before a GOP controlled Supreme Court says that it is valid in a vote of 5 to 4.

Trump will get off scot-free. The Mueller report will only raise Trump's legal bills in retirement by a few million per year. That's nothing to a multi-billionaire. Today's Trump lovers will love him until he dies, without regard to what is in the Mueller report. Trump will grow ever richer from their love of him and his brand. He will easily afford the very best lawyers to keep him out of jail.

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Not one mention on this page about how Trump colluded with Russia to throw the 2016 election.



Nothing much else to say until Mueller's report comes in. Or have you read something new about it? Something something something Hillary! Or blankety blank Obama! I haven't been watching Fox lately - what have I missed?

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Sunday, March 17, 2019 11:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Nothing much else to say until Mueller's report comes in. Or have you read something new about it? Something something something Hillary! Or blankety blank Obama! I haven't been watching Fox lately - what have I missed?

Trump is doing exactly that by posting this morning:

The Radical Left Democrats, working closely with their beloved partner, the Fake News Media, is using every trick in the book to SILENCE a majority of our Country. They have all out campaigns against @FoxNews hosts who are doing too well. .....
6:18 AM - 17 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1107269978678611969

So it was indeed (just proven in court papers) “last in his class” (Annapolis) John McCain that sent the Fake Dossier to the FBI and Media hoping to have it printed BEFORE the Election. He & the Dems, working together, failed (as usual). Even the Fake News refused this garbage!
5:41 AM - 17 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1107260609974943745

Report: Christopher Steele backed up his Democrat & Crooked Hillary paid for Fake & Unverified Dossier with information he got from “send in watchers” of low ratings CNN. This is the info that got us the Witch Hunt!
5:23 AM - 17 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1107256142584078336

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Sunday, March 17, 2019 12:36 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


The only thing I noted when scrolling was SECOND talking to himself a lot.

And (using 'find') still no mention of Trump colluding with Russia to throw the 2016 elections. In fact, no mention of Russia at all in these new postings.

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
The only thing I noted when scrolling was SECOND talking to himself a lot.

And (using 'find') still no mention of Trump colluding with Russia to throw the 2016 elections. In fact, no mention of Russia at all in these new postings.

Trump jumped the gun and started claiming "No Collusion" three years ago. He'd already sold his soul to the Kremlin back then, but nobody could prove he had a soul, therefore he could smugly claim: "No Collusion, you can't prove it, you didn't see me do it".

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Sunday, March 17, 2019 5:38 PM

THG


Facts are stubborn things. I feel the next few months will be very enlightening. And to our liking.

T



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Sunday, March 17, 2019 5:46 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Facts are stubborn things. I feel the next few months will be very enlightening. And to our liking.

T



Into the predictions thread it goes!

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:

And (using 'find') still no mention of Trump colluding with Russia to throw the 2016 elections. In fact, no mention of Russia at all in these new postings.

Funny thing happened this afternoon. Trump raised the subject.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
What the Democrats have done in trying to steal a Presidential Election, first at the “ballot box” and then, after that failed, with the “Insurance Policy,” is the biggest Scandal in the history of our Country!
4:16 PM - 17 Mar 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1107420505479528448

Twitter responded to Trump: This is called "projection". You will go down as the most embarrassing thing in American history. That's a guarantee. What Russia did in stealing the election for you is the biggest scandal in history. PERIOD.
https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1107421025497694210

The "Insurance Policy":
www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trey-gowdy-blasts-peter-strzoks-source
-behind-the-insurance-policy


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Sunday, March 17, 2019 8:24 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol...

Out with it Mueller. The suspense is killing me. Said no one ever.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 17, 2019 9:03 PM

REAVERFAN


They're still working on it. All those sealed indictments have yet to come out.

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Sunday, March 17, 2019 9:12 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

They're still working on it. All those sealed indictments have yet to come out.



It doesn't take two years to find nothing, and we see more facts daily showing Trump is the most corrupt anything to hold public office.

T



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Sunday, March 17, 2019 9:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

It doesn't take two years to find nothing, and we see more facts daily showing Trump is the most corrupt anything to hold public office.

On Sunday Trump threatens Saturday Night Live with a federal investigation for mocking him. He is beginning to make me suspect he is not right for the job.
www.msn.com/en-us/tv/humor/trump-threatens-snl-with-federal-investigat
ion-for-mocking-him/ar-BBUT4g5


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Monday, March 18, 2019 8:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
He is beginning to make me suspect he is not right for the job./b]



You sure he's just beginning?

I'm pretty sure one could dig up dozens or even hundreds of posts now where you've said so over the last two years.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Mueller’s team said in a December 2018 court filing that “the Moscow Project was a lucrative business opportunity that sought, and likely required, the assistance of the Russian government. If the project was completed, the Company (the Trump Organization) could have received hundreds of millions of dollars from Russian sources in licensing fees and other revenues.”

For all we know, Trump has been receiving hundreds of millions of dollars from Russian sources. Trump is not helpful about who is paying him for what. See his tax returns. You can't.

The project is significant because it shows Trump was chasing a lucrative business deal in Russia at the same time that President Vladimir Putin’s government, according to U.S. intelligence agencies, was conducting a hacking and propaganda campaign to boost his candidacy. The project also coincided with Trump’s positive comments as a candidate about Putin and his questioning of U.S. sanctions against Russia.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-tower-explainer/why-an-unb
uilt-moscow-trump-tower-caught-muellers-attention-idUSKCN1QZ159


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Monday, March 18, 2019 9:43 AM

THG


Why an unbuilt Moscow Trump tower caught Mueller's attention

Mueller's team said in a December 2018 court filing that "the Moscow Project was a lucrative business opportunity that sought, and likely required, the assistance of the Russian government. If the project was completed, the Company (the Trump Organization) could have received hundreds of millions of dollars from Russian sources in licensing fees and other revenues."

The project is significant because it shows Trump was chasing a lucrative business deal in Russia at the same time that President Vladimir Putin's government, according to U.S. intelligence agencies, was conducting a hacking and propaganda campaign to boost his candidacy. The project also coincided with Trump's positive comments as a candidate about Putin and his questioning of U.S. sanctions against Russia.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-an-unbuilt-moscow-trump-to
wer-caught-muellers-attention/ar-BBUUDvO?ocid=spartandhp


Here's more on that second.

T



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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Here's more on that second.

Both articles make the same point that Trump needs to prove the following, but he keeps refusing to be truthful, helpful, and detail filled: Trump wrote on Twitter, “Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!” He said this a thousand times, but not once did he try to prove/demonstrate/verify it as the truth. He could start with his tax returns, by making them public. Then he could open the books on the Trump Companies, the businesses that he refused to place into a blind trust. He will never do either.

Trump's accountants could do all the work, but Trump won't give them the order, which leaves Mueller to subpoena his way to a truthful understanding of Trump's businesses. I think Mueller will fail in the time available, but Trump's refusal to give Mueller the facts known to Trump's accountants is a solid reason to not vote for Trump in 2020.

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Monday, March 18, 2019 11:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
The only thing I noted when scrolling was SECOND talking to himself a lot.

And (using 'find') still no mention of Trump colluding with Russia to throw the 2016 elections. In fact, no mention of Russia at all in these new postings.

Since the Democrats retook the House in January, Congressman Schiff wields enormous clout as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. Now armed with subpoena power, he has launched a sweeping investigation into President Donald Trump’s finances and Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

Mr. Schiff seems to be a man on a mission – to use his newfound power to get some answers about Mr. Trump and Russia.

While Mr. Schiff sees the concept of “collusion” expansively, he agrees with Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi that trying to impeach President Trump is a bad idea unless the evidence is “clear and compelling.”

More at www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/monitor_breakfast/2019/0318/Why-Rep.-Ad
am-Schiff-seems-to-be-everywhere


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Monday, March 18, 2019 4:54 PM

THG


Seconds not talking to himself. What he is doing is ignoring trolls dummy.

T



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Monday, March 18, 2019 8:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Seconds not talking to himself. What he is doing is ignoring trolls dummy.

T





He's talking to himself. He's said so before.

It's much easier to ignore when he's not quoting one sentence of your post, taking it completely out of context, and following it up with 3 barely related paragraphs about another topic altogether.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 19, 2019 7:03 AM

THG


Federal Authorities Raided Trump Fundraiser’s Office in Money Laundering Probe

Agents were authorized to use the megadonor’s hands and face to unlock any phones that required fingerprint or facial scans.

The Washington Post reported in August that the Justice Department was investigating Broidy. The sealed warrant offers new details of federal authorities’ investigation of allegations that Broidy had attempted to cash in on his Trump White House connections in dealings with foreign officials. It also shows that the government took a more aggressive approach with the Trump ally than was previously known, entering his office and removing records — just as it did with Trump’s personal lawyer Michael Cohen.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/federal-authorities-raided-tru
mp-fundraisers-office-in-money-laundering-probe/ar-BBUUlXE?ocid=spartandhp


tick tock

T



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Tuesday, March 19, 2019 7:32 AM

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lol

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Tuesday, March 19, 2019 8:04 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


What about RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA!!?

Say, what's Rachel Madcow hyperventilating about nowadays?
And is she still leading all you "smart people" around by the nose?


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Tuesday, March 19, 2019 8:26 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Per your usual, 6ix, you missed the point

You could have stopped there.

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What about RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA!!?

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

A 52 percent majority say they have little or no trust in the president's denials that his 2016 campaign colluded with Moscow in the election that put him in the Oval Office. That number does reflect an improvement from previous polls. One year ago, 57 percent had little or no trust in his denials; in December, 59 percent did. What happened in the last four months that would make 7 percent more people trust Trump? The government shutdown for 35 days? Trump leaving Hanoi with a worse deal than when he arrived? Trump ramping up the denials?

www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/18/trust-mueller-investig
ation-falls-half-americans-say-trump-victim-witch-hunt/3194049002
/


Half of Americans believe Mueller’s probe is a ‘witch hunt’. Trump told them it was a witch hunt and they believed. When a New Yorker sells the Brooklyn Bridge, he doesn’t have to sell it to every tourist he speaks with. But if half of them buy, he is either an extremely gifted crook or the average tourist is extremely gullible. You know? That gullibility explains why America never gets out of trouble; there is always another con-game available for suckers to lose their money in.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/18/half-of-americans-believe-muellers-probe
-is-a-witch-hunt-poll
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