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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:01 PM

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Originally posted by second:
I think this is funny because he is so clueless when he acts like it is none of his business: Trump to Texas as Hurricane Harvey approaches: "Good luck to everybody"
Updated by Jeff Stein Aug 25, 2017, 5:00pm EDT

Hurricane Harvey is predicted to dump more than 30 inches of rain and wreak havoc on the Texas coast from Friday evening into the weekend.

www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/25/16206466/hurricane-harvey-tex
as-trump


Even funnier, and even more clueless, is Trump saying that digging into his finances would be a "violation" of the Mueller investigation's limits. Every single time Trump says this, he is screaming to high heaven "I Am A Tax Cheater!"

"If you're looking at Russian collusion, the president’s tax returns would be outside that investigation," an adviser to the president told the Post.

But legal experts say Trump's financial history and business dealings are properly within the scope of the probe.

www.businessinsider.com/trump-tax-returns-finances-russia-mueller-2017
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www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/21/trumps-business-of-corruption

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:03 PM

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There are no laws in Texas against building on a flood plain?


Texas is Republican controlled. There are no state laws stopping an unscrupulous builder from selling to a gullible buyer housing in a flood zone. There are federal rules, I mean there were rules until Trump decided differently, preventing the Federal Flood Insurance Program from insuring new houses in flood zones. Houses that also are covered by FHA mortgages must have that insurance.

In other news of "There Ought To Be A Law!" and getting back to something Trump specifically did this week that no President ever tried before, even Nixon in his dreams:

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/26/trump-arpaio-pardon-constituti
on-white-house-officials


Bradley Moss, a national security attorney, argued: “By demonstrating his willingness to issue pardons without bothering with the trouble of bureaucratic due diligence or concerns about political backlash, President Trump has sent out a subtle and implicit message to [Michael] Flynn and [Paul] Manafort: hang tight, I have your back.

“He undoubtedly is attempting to forestall either of the two men (or their subordinates) from cooperating with Mueller beyond what’s legally required, with the unspoken reassurance hanging over the investigation that the president can wipe their criminal slates clean if Mueller gets too close.”

Trump reportedly did not consult the justice department before issuing the pardon which, along with being unusually early in a presidency, came just weeks after the court decision and well before Arpaio’s appeal or sentencing.

Martin Redish, a professor of constitutional law at Northwestern University, suggested that this takes Trump into uncharted territory and could leave him vulnerable to a unique legal challenge.

“Should the president indicate that he does not think Mr Arpaio should be punished for that, he would signal that governmental agents who violate judicial injunctions are likely to be pardoned, even though their behavior violated constitutional rights, when their illegal actions are consistent with presidential policies,” Redish wrote in the New York Times, before the pardon was announced.

“Many legal scholars argue that the only possible redress is impeachment – itself a politicized, drawn-out process. But there may be another route. If the pardon is challenged in court, we may discover that there are, in fact, limits to the president’s pardon power after all.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:03 PM

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Trump is ‘prepping his base’ for a constitutional crisis to stop the Russia probe
http://warincontext.org/2017/09/23/trump-is-prepping-his-base-for-a-co
nstitutional-crisis-to-stop-the-russia-probe-says-lawmaker
/

September 23, 2017

Raw Story reports: President Donald Trump is preparing his base for the constitutional crisis he’ll trigger by firing special counsel Robert Mueller, according to a congressional investigator.

Rep. Mike Quigley (D-IL), a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said the probe has gotten deep into sensitive financial areas involving Trump and his family, and he “impulsive” president was almost certain to fire the special counsel.

“The Mueller investigation could take at least another year, maybe two, but (the House) investigation is closer to its infancy than conclusion,” Quigley said Thursday, during a discussion at DePaul University College of Law. “In the meantime, we live with the very real threat that the Mueller investigation gets shut down.”

Quigley said the investigation, despite its complexity, had already revealed evidence of wrongdoing.

“If you had seen what I had seen you’d want me to go full throttle,” he said.

The lawmaker said he’s trying to communicate a sense of urgency, because he believes Trump is willing to risk democratic institutions and civil society to protect himself from the investigation.

“One of the reasons I speak the way I do when I message about this is I’m worried about a constitutional crisis,” Quigley said. “I think there is a reason he speaks to the base in the manner in which he does. He’s prepping them, girding them for this.”


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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:04 PM

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Special counsel investigators start questioning White House staffers

Investigators have begun questioning White House staffers as part of the special counsel’s Russia probe

Tick tock, tick tock.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-counsel-investigators-s
tart-questioning-white-house-staffers/ar-AAsDdWQ?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=BHEA000








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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:04 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Yes, keep believing that Fake News narrative...pretty soon, Mueller will "Fake" indict people, then "Fake" trial leading to "Fake" jail.....yes, keep believing.


SGG


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Special counsel investigators start questioning White House staffers

Investigators have begun questioning White House staffers as part of the special counsel’s Russia probe

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-counsel-investigators-s
tart-questioning-white-house-staffers/ar-AAsDdWQ?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=BHEA000



More msn Fake News Factory output? They must all be guilty, otherwise the Inquisitioners would never question them.



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Yes, keep believing that Fake News narrative...pretty soon, Mueller will "Fake" indict people, then "Fake" trial leading to "Fake" jail.....yes, keep believing.


SGG




Well said.







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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:06 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Agreed, it seems to me that Mueller is a very carefully efficient prosecutor who wants to make sure all the i's are dotted, and all the t's are crossed before he makes his move.

Don't want the worm wriggling off the hook.


SGG


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Originally posted by Oonjerah:

  Is Countdown Clock to Trump's
impeachment getting close to ringing?


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I am inclined to think that because money laundering for the Russians, and so many other violations of the law may become indictments, it is going to take a while.








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Have dirt that could impeach Trump?
Larry Flynt will pay you $10 million.


Did you hear Trump called Flynt within an hour to claim the reward?

Just minutes after the publisher Larry Flynt offered ten million dollars in exchange for information leading to Donald Trump’s impeachment, Trump contacted Flynt and said that he would gladly provide the information himself in exchange for the cash.

According to Flynt, shortly after their phone conversation Trump sent him a voluminous number of e-mails, phone records, and other evidence of impeachable offenses, after which Flynt wired ten million dollars to Trump’s Swiss bank account.

“That was a lot easier than I thought it would be, to be honest,” Flynt told reporters.

The swift denouement to Trump’s tenure in the White House raised more than a few eyebrows in Washington, with some insiders wondering if Trump’s eagerness to accept the ten-million-dollar payment indicated that his net worth was considerably smaller than he had professed.

Robert Mueller, the independent counsel investigating Trump’s ties to Russia, expressed some sadness that he was not able to bring his probe to a conclusion. “I don’t know what evidence Trump had against himself, but I guarantee you I had more,” he said.

Meanwhile, the success of Flynt’s cash offer appears to have only emboldened the publisher, who announced that he is now offering twenty million dollars for information leading to the impeachment of Mike Pence.

www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-accepts-larry-flynts-ten
-million-dollar-offer-for-information-leading-to-his-impeachment


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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:06 PM

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At least one person was charged Friday in connection with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s criminal investigation into alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, according to people familiar with the matter.

That person could be taken into custody as soon as Monday, these people said. The number and identity of the defendants, and the charges, couldn’t be determined.

A spokesman for Mr. Mueller, Peter Carr, declined to comment. The news of the charges, marking the first in Mr. Mueller’s investigation, was reported by CNN on Friday.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/first-charges-filed-in-russia-
probe-led-by-special-counsel/ar-AAu9hHW?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp








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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:12 PM

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The question that matters now: what will Republicans do when Trump fires Mueller?

Probably nothing.

A Fox News piece was titled “Mueller facing new Republican pressure to resign in Russia probe.”

The message is clear and important: When Trump decides to fire Mueller (and possibly pardon the targets of his investigation) to spare himself and his family from accusations of serious wrongdoing, America’s premier propaganda broadcaster will have his back.

That means that, inevitably, the vast majority of rank-and-file congressional Republicans will also have his back.

The fate of the investigation — and of the integrity of the American political process — will thus rest on the often-frail shoulders of the handful of congressional Republicans who’ve made it clear that they understand the threat Trump poses to the country but have never yet managed to conduct effective, coordinated political action to counter the threat. If they want to forestall disaster, that needs to change. And it needs to happen fast, before Trump plunges us into a new round of crisis.

The threat of a Mueller firing is very real.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/30/16565580/what-if-trump-fire
s-mueller


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:12 PM

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I agree SECOND if it ends here. That's not going to happen. I believe the scope of this will force the Republicans to act.

The fox report stating Mueller is facing pressure from the republicans is actually fox news trying to create that pressure; fake news. Mueller won't be intimidated as recent events show.



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Originally posted by second:
The question that matters now: what will Republicans do when Trump fires Mueller?

Probably nothing.

A Fox News piece was titled “Mueller facing new Republican pressure to resign in Russia probe.”

The message is clear and important: When Trump decides to fire Mueller (and possibly pardon the targets of his investigation) to spare himself and his family from accusations of serious wrongdoing, America’s premier propaganda broadcaster will have his back.

That means that, inevitably, the vast majority of rank-and-file congressional Republicans will also have his back.

The fate of the investigation — and of the integrity of the American political process — will thus rest on the often-frail shoulders of the handful of congressional Republicans who’ve made it clear that they understand the threat Trump poses to the country but have never yet managed to conduct effective, coordinated political action to counter the threat. If they want to forestall disaster, that needs to change. And it needs to happen fast, before Trump plunges us into a new round of crisis.

The threat of a Mueller firing is very real.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/30/16565580/what-if-trump-fire
s-mueller


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly









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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:12 PM

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If three or four Republican senators were to say loudly and clearly that firing Mueller would induce them to hold up significant aspects of the GOP legislative agenda until the investigation can be restored, that would make all the difference in the world. Critically, it’s important to say that before Trump actually fires Mueller. If statements come while Mueller is still in his job, that gives the business community, the GOP leadership, and other critical actors reason to lean on Trump to not fire Mueller — since firing Mueller would throw a wrench in the works of the legislative agenda.

By contrast, if Mueller’s firing is already fait accompli by the time Trump-skeptical Republicans try to mobilize against it, they’re the ones who’ll be leaned on to not make trouble.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:12 PM

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It already happened SECOND and more than 4 or 5 Republicans said as much. They also stated that if Trump fired Mueller the Senate would put him right back in place as an independent council that Trump can't touch. It makes it easier to convict Trump of obstruction if he does fire Mueller. Lets hope he does.





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If three or four Republican senators were to say loudly and clearly that firing Mueller would induce them to hold up significant aspects of the GOP legislative agenda until the investigation can be restored, that would make all the difference in the world. Critically, it’s important to say that before Trump actually fires Mueller. If statements come while Mueller is still in his job, that gives the business community, the GOP leadership, and other critical actors reason to lean on Trump to not fire Mueller — since firing Mueller would throw a wrench in the works of the legislative agenda.

By contrast, if Mueller’s firing is already fait accompli by the time Trump-skeptical Republicans try to mobilize against it, they’re the ones who’ll be leaned on to not make trouble.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly







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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:13 PM

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It already happened SECOND and more than 4 or 5 Republicans said as much. They also stated that if Trump fired Mueller the Senate would put him right back in place as an independent council that Trump can't touch. It makes it easier to convict Trump of obstruction if he does fire Mueller. Lets hope he does.

I hope Trump does not fire Mueller. I want Mueller to finish the job without drama and Trump to serve out his term, give me an undeserved tax cut, and then Trump gets stomped on in 2020 like a cockroach. Splat!

The Congressional Republicans have NOT said it EXTREMELY LOUD and perfectly clear what they will do to Trump if he fires Mueller. They might do nothing. Think how that plays out from now to 2020. I saw this quote: “Ryan, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer must make crystal clear right now that firing Mueller or interfering with his investigation would be met with swift and forceful congressional action, including the opening of an impeachment inquiry against the president and the creation of an independent commission to investigate interference in the 2016 election.”
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_good_fight/2017/10/don_t_
wait_for_trump_to_fire_mueller_the_time_to_start_fighting_back_is.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:13 PM

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I enjoyed your sarcasm. I am however afraid of the damage Trump could do should he serve a full term. It could be catastrophic.

I'd add that the Republicans still have cover. As the indictments come forth and more is revealed that will change. They'll have to act.




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It already happened SECOND and more than 4 or 5 Republicans said as much. They also stated that if Trump fired Mueller the Senate would put him right back in place as an independent council that Trump can't touch. It makes it easier to convict Trump of obstruction if he does fire Mueller. Lets hope he does.

I hope Trump does not fire Mueller. I want Mueller to finish the job without drama and Trump to serve out his term, give me an undeserved tax cut, and then Trump gets stomped on in 2020 like a cockroach. Splat!

The Congressional Republicans have NOT said it EXTREMELY LOUD and perfectly clear what they will do to Trump if he fires Mueller. They might do nothing. Think how that plays out from now to 2020. I saw this quote: “Ryan, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer must make crystal clear right now that firing Mueller or interfering with his investigation would be met with swift and forceful congressional action, including the opening of an impeachment inquiry against the president and the creation of an independent commission to investigate interference in the 2016 election.”
www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_good_fight/2017/10/don_t_
wait_for_trump_to_fire_mueller_the_time_to_start_fighting_back_is.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly







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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:13 PM

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Significance of indictments in Russia investigation

Newly released court documents show that Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos communicated with several senior campaign officials about his outreach to the Russian government over a period of months. The recipients of Papadopoulos's emails are not named in the filings, but The Washington Post has identified several individuals based on interviews and other documents. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty this month to lying to federal agents about his outreach to Russia.

"The Campaign Supervisor": Trump campaign national co-chairman Sam Clovis
Victoria Toensing, an attorney for Sam Clovis, confirmed that several references in court filings to "the campaign supervisor" refer to the onetime radio host from Iowa, who served as Trump's national campaign co-chairman.

At one point, Papadopoulos emailed Clovis and other campaign officials about a March 24, 2016, meeting he had in London with a professor, who had introduced him to the Russian ambassador and a Russian woman he described as "Putin's niece." The group had talked about arranging a meeting "between us and the Russian leadership to discuss U.S.-Russia ties under President Trump," Papadopoulos wrote.

Papadopoulos later learned that the woman was not Putin's niece, and while he expected to meet the ambassador, he never did, according to filings.

Clovis responded that he would "work it through the campaign," adding, "great work," according to court documents.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/who’s-who-in-the-george-papado
poulos-court-documents/ar-AAuftAJ?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartanntp


He was arrested and turned states evidence three months ago. That means he may have been wired and conversed with who knows who in the Trump administration since. By phone or in person he would have discussed Russia. What he and the administration did with the Russians and getting them on tape. Think obstruction of justice as they tried to get their stories straight with him not knowing he was taping the conversation.

And are there more doing the same thing. Where's Flynn and watch Gates. I'm a fan of Bob Mueller.

Tick tock







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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:13 PM

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Az I understand it, Trump can not directly fire Mueller. He woud haf to fire Sessionz and Rosenstien and replase them with croniez who woud do it.

Not eazy to find sumwun who iz loyal and stoopid enuf to risk prizon. Federal pound-me-in-the-ass prizon!

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Not to worry Joe. SIG and kiki are being shown to be absolute morons, stupid and corrupted when voicing there opinions about anything. A better word to describe them is; trolls.







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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:14 PM

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Ex-Trump aide: I 'probably' talked Russia with staffer charged in Mueller probe

Former Trump campaign aide Carter Page says he "probably" discussed Russia in emails with fellow ex-staffer George Papadopoulos, who has pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents about his contacts.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-trump-aide-i-probably-talke
d-russia-with-staffer-charged-in-mueller-probe/ar-AAuftu9?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartanntp








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Papadopoulos looks young & pretty cute.
He would be popular in prison.


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Depends on how much information he had to share with Mueller concerning Trump.


Papadopoulos Claimed Trump Campaign Approved Russia Meeting

Former Trump adviser George Papadopoulos made a significant claim in an email: Top Trump campaign officials agreed to a pre-election meeting with representatives of Russian President Vladimir Putin.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-31/papadopoulos-claime
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SIG, can you see me laughing? Spin the truth all you want in these threads. What's going on in reality is playing out in the real world, not in your diseased little mind. Funny how nothing from the real world backs up the claims you make. Hillary is not under investigation for colluding with the Russians; Trump is. Hillary is not the president, Trump is.

On a side note. I'm sure all Putin's friends are real happy the world is now focused on their money laundering process, and will be taking serious steps to frustrate that. Why, payback for the Russians meddling in all their elections. What goes around comes around. Consider for a moment comrade that Mueller's investigation may lead to charges against many if not all of Putin's friends. Hmmm, he may not be able to go to Russia and get them, but his investigations can cause havoc in their lives.




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THUGR:

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Ex-British spy [was] paid $168,000 for Trump dossier, U.S. firm discloses

A Washington research firm paid a former British spy’s company $168,000 for work on a dossier outlining Russian financial and personal links to Donald Trump’s 2016 election campaign, the U.S. firm said in a statement on Wednesday...

Fusion GPS’ statement said it had told Congress about how $168,000 was paid last year to Orbis Business Intelligence, Steele’s company.

The money paid to Orbis was taken from $1.02 million it received in fees and expenses from the Perkins Coie law firm, the statement said. The law firm represented the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign ...


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-dossier/ex-british-
spy-paid-168000-for-trump-dossier-u-s-firm-discloses-idUSKBN1D15XH?utm_campaign=digest&utm_medium=email&utm_source=nuzzel


In other words, the DNC and Hillary Clinton, thru their common law firm, paid Russians[s] for "dirt" on Trump.

How is that any different than what the Trump campaign is accused of doing, except that the Trump campaign didn't pay anybody and never got a "dossier" from their abortive contacts?

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House Dems introduce articles of impeachment against Trump
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/15/politics/cohen-articles-of-impeachment/i
ndex.html


"House Democrats introduced articles of impeachment Wednesday against
President Donald Trump, though they acknowledged their efforts have no
chance of success while Republicans control both houses of Congress."

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Stupid and did I say stupid. All show and is only going to gum up the works by creating more hate. I can't say it enough, they need to let Mueller do his job. These people are as bad as those protecting the republican Moore. They are a part of the problem and not the solution.







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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:18 PM

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Mueller Probing Pre-Election Flynn Meeting with Pro-Russia Congressman

WASHINGTON — Investigators for Special Counsel Robert Mueller are questioning witnesses about an alleged September 2016 meeting between Mike Flynn, who later briefly served as President Donald Trump’s national security adviser, and Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a staunch advocate of policies that would help Russia, two sources with knowledge of the investigation told NBC News.

The meeting allegedly took place in Washington the evening of Sept. 20, while Flynn was working as an adviser to Trump’s presidential campaign. It was arranged by his lobbying firm, the Flynn Intel Group. Also in attendance were Flynn’s business partners, Bijan Kian and Brian McCauley, and Flynn’s son, Michael G. Flynn, who worked closely with his father, the sources said.

Mueller is reviewing emails sent from Flynn Intel Group to Rohrabacher’s congressional staff thanking them for the meeting, according to one of the sources, as part of his probe into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election and possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

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I would say it is astounding that SIG, kiki and Jack, continue to suggest in different threads there is no evidence of the Russians interfering in our elections. Or that there is no evidence of Trump and his associates colluding and conspiring with them. Even though, in this and those other threads, the evidence posted to date suggests overwhelmingly they did. No, I won't say their constant denials are astounding, because at least two of the three are Russian trolls. So, it is to be expected.

Anyway, those of us who know better continue to post updates concerning this topic. As we do so, we are laughing to ourselves at the lame attempt made by these trolls to dispute and deflect away from the facts.

Tick tock, tick tock



Kushner under scrutiny in Russian probe

Leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committee revealed on Thursday that Kushner failed to hand over a document about a “Russian backdoor overture” — nor did he provide investigators with a September 2016 email he was sent about WikiLeaks or communications the campaign forwarded to him from a Russian-born businessman.

He remains a person of interest in special counsel Robert Mueller’s federal investigation into Russian election meddling, a source with knowledge of the probe told Reuters.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/360951-kushner-under-scrut
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Publicist who set up Trump Jr., Russian lawyer meeting says he's ready to talk to Mueller. I doubt he'll come to America.



Trump’s “Coffee Boy” Keeps Sabotaging His Russia Story

George Papadopoulos told foreign contacts he was a significant player on the campaign—and claims Trump gave him a “blank check” for a White House job.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/george-papadopoulos-trump-camp
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I'm not complaining about anything. The MSM can do whatever they want to do.


Okay. Got it!

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All I'm saying is that it's a shame that the MSM has been handling things they way they have the last year.


We've been through this, but it bares repeating, the MSM is reporting on the presidency - no matter how lame the administration performs or how poor the coverage. I didn't hear much of anything whenever the media covered Obama and the
fucking "real obstructionists" in Congress:

Do you remember when the Republican-lead Congress blocked Obama from picking a Supreme Court judge? For over a year, because they thought maybe a Republican would win (Hmmmmm). Anyway, that's news! And now Donny Baby is crying, boo hoo, that Congress is obstructing him - but wait a minute; they control both houses. It's all a bunch of bullshit and people are swallowing it hook, line and sinker. These are the things that need to be in the news...of course, a lot that Donny Baby does is to distract from his total dismantling of the government as we know it. The one that functions on a high level, the one that has the keys to the Kingdom, namely our country.

I say all of this because the media is a necessary evil, as the saying goes. It generally is needed to keep an eye on the crazy Orange One and his staff from blowing up the works. Literally. I guess you don't want to know if these fucking assholes "colluded" with the Russian Mob to fuck us all in the ass real good.

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I'm open to the idea that Trump is a scumbag and a traitor. It's quite possible and if it is he should be punished to the full extent of US law.


This is all I'm saying. The truth is out there and I'm curious as to how these stupid fucking rich scumbags thought for a second that they would get away with it.

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But without any real evidence I just find it hard to believe at this point. I'm not going to believe the MSM when they accuse him everyday of being one just because he has character flaws that you and a lot of other people hate.


"Without any real evidence..." When someone is conducting an investigation, especially in white collar crimes, it takes time to dig and find the money. Here's the thing, Trump and company have been lying since the beginning. They have denied
any contact with the Russians, but at every turn Mueller finds stuff and then people like Sessions, Kushner, Don Jr. etc. lie through their teeth that they ever met with any Russians. The day after Trump fired Comey, he invited Russian mobsters into the White House and gave away classified secrets (and don't give me that "but what about Hillary" crap because had she done what Trump did, you'd never hear the end of it - Benghazi went on for years).

Look Six, I get it. You are siding with the people you identify with, I have no problem with that. You can do whatever you believe in. I'm doing the same. I don't hate Trump because of skin color (wait, I gotta laugh at that last statement, he's so fucking orange), or even because he's rich, not even his "fake" hair. It's because, above all, HE'S A REAL HONEST-TO-GOODNESS SCUMBAG! He'll step on your neck and take your last penny, while you're lying in the gutter unconscious.
That's the mark of a real douchebag. He would "screw" his own mother for a buck.
And now he's the president. And he is not playing by the established rules that has made this country great. Fuck his slogan, I know what it really means, but even that is smoke and mirrors Six. You are being duped by the biggest con-artist in the universe. This is how he makes his money; and it is NOT honest.

And those character flaws is shitting on what made this country great. His motto and his administration is a sham, flim-flam, bogus....a big fucking lie. He's using his best stuff to rob, lie, cheat and steal his way to the top of the wealthy pile of shit. The evidence is being dug up by Mueller, why else would Trump be shitting a fucking brick trying to think of ways to fire Mueller. If there's really nothing there then Trump and his cronies would open the door and show Mueller every piece of paper, phone call and e-mail; then say "see, told you there was nothing."

BTW, neither the media or Mueller, for that matter, have accused anyone. Mueller has been silent since Day One. And yeah, the media draws conclusions, speculates and they allege, but that's how they make money. When Mueller finishes his probe, then he will make the proper charges to the proper people, if he finds anything worthwhile. He's a pro's pro and I'm glad that he is not leaking anything of note. Just ask Paul Manafort. Believe, don't believe....because it doesn't matter. The shit will hit the fan soon, and I bet anything that many will be packing their bags and a toothbrush.

Me!? I'm counting the days...........tick, tock!

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Feel free to keep up the mob mentality.


You mean like the mob that killed that young girl who's only crime was marching against bigotry and fascism. She was standing there exercising her right to protest, then suddenly a car came out of nowhere and killed her. This from the "very fine people" who were there to tell anyone who would listen how to live their life and reject anyone who was not exactly the same color skin. This is a country of freedoms, built on free and open thinking and on immigrants of all types and colors. It is NOT built on hate; no matter what anyone says.


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Okay, let's take a look back, shall we...........

Trump said that once he was done with the campaign, that he would sue the women who accused him of sexual harassment/misconduct. Let me see, nope.....nothing. Not even a mention by him on tweeter that he's following up with the lawsuit. That's just one thing.

You know, it's funny, most of what is reported by the press/media is mainly self-inflicted "gun shots" to his clumsy-ass feet. They report on the shit he does to "endear" himself to the people. His staunch supporters are about the only ones complaining about the media's efforts to expose the fraud that he is. Yes, they do report on him quite a lot, but it stands to reason why. He's a FUCK UP!

About the only positive thing he's done is for the very, very wealthy. Oh and he's picked for lifetime appointments Federal judges that will, let's see now, benefit the rich. Hmmmm, I guess he is doing well after all. Hey, the rich folk got what they wanted and guess who's paying for all this shit. So you want less of Trump in the media? Well, then let's see what "we" can do about that. Here's another funny thing: all of the mainstream media, including Fox and Rush Limpdick - are owned by.....guess who? The rich!

Now, complain all you want, but this is not going away anytime soon. As long as The Orange Pimpmaster continues his assault on the country. This is not going to end.

Oh! BTW, this prick sells and so that's another reason why the coverage is going to continue. Sorry buddy, but reality just took a big fucking bite and it's chewing up the scenery.



I'm not complaining about anything. The MSM can do whatever they want to do.

All I'm saying is that it's a shame that the MSM has been handling things they way they have the last year.

I'm open to the idea that Trump is a scumbag and a traitor. It's quite possible and if it is he should be punished to the full extent of US law.

But without any real evidence I just find it hard to believe at this point. I'm not going to believe the MSM when they accuse him everyday of being one just because he has character flaws that you and a lot of other people hate.

Feel free to keep up the mob mentality.


I decline.

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It looks like the blame for Mueller's future failure is already being written.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-mueller-record-20171122-stor
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As he investigates Trump's aides, Robert Mueller's record shows surprising flaws



Tick tock, tick tock


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Retired Lt. Gen Michael Flynn has promised “full cooperation” in the special counsel’s Russia investigation and, according to a confidant, is prepared to testify that Donald Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians, initially as a way to work together to fight ISIS in Syria.

The stunning turn comes as Flynn, who is cooperating with investigators in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe, pleaded guilty to one count of lying to the FBI about his back-channel negotiations with the Russian ambassador – talks that occurred before Trump took office. The Special Counsel made the plea agreement public Friday morning.

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I haven’t seen anything yet to convince me that the Putin-Trump collaboration was a big deal. Ugly and unprincipled, sure, but politically consequential, probably not.

Let’s speculate on the political fallout from a potential prosecutor’s report that Trump cut deals with Putin before taking office. Is this something that nobody on either side of the aisle could possibly defend? What happens if the Republicans in the House and Senate say, hey, it’s just a bureaucratic detail, since he was already elected? And why wouldn’t they say this? How would that be any more outrageous than anything else they’ve said or done in recent memory? Who would stop them?

The “who would stop them” thing is what it’s all about. Modern movement conservatism is about winning, period. To worry about honesty, consistency or any other check on your political options is to be a loser. This is why we hear made-up stories about the effect of taxes and voter fraud laws, when the ones promulgating them know they’re false and know you and I know they’re false. They don’t care, except about winning, which they’ve become good at. Give me a scenario in which the Republican congressional establishment does not shrug off a report against Trump.

Trump is not invulnerable, and scandal may drag him down, but it won’t be over points of law that matter only to people who believe in the rule of law. The 2018 election could change that, but only if it breaks a lot bluer than currently expected. A damning report against Trump could influence the vote, but only if it appears in the last week or two of the campaign, before tribal cohesion reestablishes itself.



Well, trying to set up a back channel going though the Russian Embassy in an attempt to bypass our Intel agencies, and our elected officials in the senate and house, if true, sounds criminal to me.

That said, Mueller and his people aren't leaking. All we know is what has been found out by the press and leaked, many times by the White House. Those close to and working for Trump.

Well, that and that so far 4 of Trumps people have been charged with crimes within his first year of office. Two of which have already plead guilty.


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Did Trump sanction Flynns discussions with Russia at the very time Putin was hacking us and trying to have an influence on our election? Just this morning Flynn tweeted "scapegoat"

The first person to come out in favor of a soft coup, when the presidency was a mere 32 days old. Because ... Russia.

Most conservatives consume pro-Trump media, which will downplay or distort virtually anything Mueller or the mainstream press discovers. And the more aggressively Democrats push for Trump’s removal, the easier it will be for Breitbart and Sean Hannity to rally Republicans against a “left-wing coup.”

Removing a president requires bipartisanship. And in this ultra-partisan age, that means removing a president is impossible, even when he’s Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Not to worry kiki. You're showing a lack of patience. If the Democrats win the white house in three years, Trump will get his then. As for Russia, over the long term the price for fucking with Europe, America and so on will take a large toll.

Mueller is going to find Trump broke many laws like laundering money. Maybe it will be the Rico Act. Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. If push comes to shove, all they need do is keep some under raps until the next election. In any case, justice will be done.

Anyway, funny how you keep saying no evidence yet, as if that means anything at all before charges have been filed. That's when the evidence is presented dummy. Think obstruction...

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Anyway, funny how you keep saying no evidence yet, as if that means anything at all before charges have been filed.
I keep saying there's no evidence yet, because, as you agree, there is no evidence yet.

So, what have you been going on about for nearly a year?

Oh, that's right - the line of propaganda you get paid to push, to help that soft coup along.

1kiki, you are nutty about declaring "no evidence". Trump's lawyer just lied about evidence by saying he did it, not Trump, when the lawyer falsely claimed he wrote the tweet, not Trump, where Trump admits to obstructing justice.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/04/doesnt-make-sense-incredulity-
trumps-lawyer-john-dowd-take-blame-for-flynn-tweet


Mueller should have that lawyer swear an oath that the lawyer wrote the tweet, not Trump, so that the lawyer would go to jail for lying to the FBI when it was proven that Trump, not the lawyer, actually wrote it. But that won't happen because your lawyer cannot be compelled to testify against you. Trump really owes his smart lawyer, John Dowd, an eternal debt for jumping into the fire and saving dumb-ass Trump from burning.

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Yeah...

Don't think I didn't miss the lack of reply from Second. He almost never answers me directly, but always quotes me and posts a somewhat vaguely related story based off of a single sentence of one of my replies to completely deflect any point I was trying to make.

I had him dead to rights here, and he knows it.

Hey 6ixStringJack. I haven't the will to convince you of anything. But keep on thinking you are right and I am wrong because your self-confidence is working out so very well for you and delivering material rewards to you every day, I'm sure.

Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, which is investigating the Trump campaign, said Mueller’s reported subpoena of Deutsche Bank “would be a very significant development”.

“If Russia laundered money through the Trump Organization, it would be far more compromising than any salacious video and could be used as leverage against Donald Trump and his associates and family,” Schiff said in a statement.

Deutsche Bank told Bloomberg in a statement that it always cooperated with investigating authorities.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/05/donald-trump-bank-records-hand
ed-over-robert-mueller



Mueller asked Deutsche Bank for data on accounts held by President Donald Trump and his family, a person close to the matter said on Tuesday.

Germany’s largest bank received a subpoena from Special Counsel Robert Mueller several weeks ago to provide information on certain money and credit transactions, the person said, adding key documents had been handed over in the meantime.

The German bank is one of the few major lenders that has lent large amounts to Trump in the past decade. A string of bankruptcies at his hotel and casino businesses during the 1990s made most of Wall Street wary of extending him credit.

A U.S. official with knowledge of Mueller’s probe said one reason for the subpoenas was to find out whether Deutsche Bank may have sold some of Trump’s mortgage or other loans to Russian state development bank VEB or other Russian banks that now are under U.S. and European Union sanctions.

Holding such debt, particularly if some of it was or is coming due, could potentially give Russian banks some leverage over Trump, especially if they are state-owned, said a second U.S. official familiar with Russian intelligence methods.

“One obvious question is why Trump and those around him expressed interest in improving relations with Russia as a top foreign policy priority, and whether or not any personal considerations played any part in that,” the second official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

There was no immediate response to the Deutsche Bank subpoena from Trump’s lawyers.

The subpoena was earlier reported by German daily Handelsblatt.
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/deutsche-bank-gets-
subpoena-from-mueller-on-trump-accounts-source-idUSKBN1DZ0XN


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Federal prosecutors reportedly sought bank records related to Jared Kushner's family business

Federal prosecutors have reportedly sought bank records related to White House senior adviser Jared Kushner's family business. It's not clear whether there is any connection between that development and special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.


http://www.businessinsider.com/federal-prosecutors-subpoena-deutsche-b
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Former Watergate prosecutor: 'Conspiracy,' not collusion, is main issue in Russia investigation

Nick Ackerman, a former Watergate prosecutor, said Saturday that the big issue in special counsel Robert Mueller investigation is not whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia, but whether it conspired to steal emails from prominent figures in the Democratic Party.

"I think the big enchilada here is the conspiracy to break into the Democratic National Committee in violation of the federal computer crime law and to use those emails to help Donald Trump get elected," Ackerman said on MSNBC.

"All of that is motive as to why Donald Trump and others were endeavoring to obstruct the investigation, and why Donald Trump told [former FBI Director] James Comey to let the investigation on [former national security adviser Michael] Flynn go," he added. "All of this is going to come together in 2018."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-watergate-prosecutor-con
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The president’s public denunciation of Bannon came only after a report early Wednesday, based on excerpts from a forthcoming book, that quoted Bannon condemning as “treasonous” a June 2016 meeting in which Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner, Trump's son-in-law, met with Kremlin-linked Russians to get “dirt” on Hillary Clinton.

“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad ... and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the FBI immediately,” Bannon reportedly said.

Prevezon’s lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, arranged the meeting with Trump Jr. last year. She had been pushing for a long time to get something done about the Prevezon case. So it's very possible that she went into that meeting with Trump Jr essentially asking for help, in return for which she would give the Trump campaign dirt on Hillary and the DNC.

Several months after Trump takes office, the Prevezon case is dismissed. So what happened? The U.S. attorney was carefully preparing a case against Prevezon Holdings. They were all set to go forward, and then suddenly the case was settled. Prevezon's own lawyers were kind of shocked. We know they paid something like $6 million, which is a fraction of what the lawsuit was about. So they were extremely happy about it.

Do we have any evidence that Trump was involved in any way with Prevezon? We know is that Preet Bharara, the attorney in charge of the case, was fired by Trump in early March, and shortly thereafter the Prevezon case was dropped. They had been ready to prosecute, witnesses were flown in, it was all set to go, and it was settled rather unexpectedly. So I think this is a case that hasn't really entered the public consciousness yet. But I'm sure that special counsel Robert Mueller's team is looking at it.

www.vox.com/2017/7/18/15983910/donald-trump-russia-putin-fbi-collusion
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Trump’s behavior is consistent with two diametrically opposite conclusions. It’s consistent with the possibility that Trump colluded with Russia in some way and is desperate to cover it up. But it’s also consistent with the possibility that Trump is entirely innocent. A person with Trump’s volcanic temper and bottomless feelings of grievance would probably react exactly the way he has if he had done nothing wrong.

So far, all the evidence we’ve seen publicly has come tantalizingly close to obstruction of justice, but has never quite gotten there. But even if it doesn’t, the precise legal definitions of obstruction apply only in a courtroom, not in an impeachment trial. The kinds of things Trump has done are more than enough to constitute a “high crime” if enough members of Congress think it does. At the moment, Republicans prefer keeping Trump in office. But if they ever decide he’s too big an albatross and they’d rather deal with President Pence, Mueller is almost certain to give them enough to make a case with.

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Bannon Is Subpoenaed in Mueller’s Russia Investigation

The move marked the first time Mr. Mueller is known to have used a grand jury subpoena to seek information from a member of Mr. Trump’s inner circle. The special counsel’s office has used subpoenas before to seek information on Mr. Trump’s associates and their possible ties to Russia or other foreign governments.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/bannon-is-subpoenaed-in-muelle
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Only 2,634 days left on the Impeachment Clock.



Trump budget funds Mueller probe through fiscal 2019

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-budget-funds-mueller-pro
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Personally, I hope Mueller waits until the 2018 elections. I want more democrats in office when he makes his move. And it looks like there are going to be quite a few elected.

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Rick Gates: Top Donald Trump Campaign Aide Will ‘Flip,’ Robert Mueller Russia Probe Closing In, Report Says.

Rick Gates, a top aide to Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential election campaign and longtime business partner of Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, is ready to strike a plea deal with Russia investigation Special Counsel Robert Mueller, CNN reported on Thursday afternoon. The news appears to be a potential bombshell because a plea agreement likely indicates that Gates is ready to “flip” and provide Mueller with potentially damaging information against Trump, the report said.

https://www.inquisitr.com/4788392/donald-trump-russia-robert-mueller-r
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Trump-Russia inquiry: Manafort under pressure after reports that Gates has flipped

Donald Trump’s former campaign manager is under increasing pressure to cooperate with criminal prosecutors investigating the campaign’s alleged collusion with the Kremlin following reports that his chief lieutenant will testify against him.
Several US media outlets, including the Los Angeles Times and CNN, reported that Rick Gates, a former campaign aide and lobbyist, has struck a deal with Robert Mueller, the special counsel, and will testify against Paul Manafort, his longtime business associate, in exchange for leniency.

Gates has appeared to be a relatively minor figure in the Trump/Russia probe. But if he were to plead guilty to criminal charges connected to his earlier work as a lobbyist for a pro-Kremlin party in Ukraine, including allegations of money laundering, it would set off a chain of events that could bring Mueller’s investigation deep into the White House.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/19/trump-russia-inquiry-p
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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:42 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
The Trump Tower meeting at the center of the Russia investigation, explained

1) What is this Trump Tower meeting — and why do we care?

2) Who was involved in the meeting?

3) What do we know happened?

4) How did we learn about the meeting?

5) What do the meeting participants now say happened?

6) Does the “such a nothing” story hold up?

7) Are there good reasons to think there’s more to the story?

8) What do people think might have happened at the meeting?

9) Why is Robert Mueller so interested in this meeting?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-trump-tower-meeting-at-the
-center-of-the-russia-investigation-explained/ar-BBJC5wv?ocid=spartanntp


It's a long article which is why I only posted its list of talking points. It makes a good effort to put things about the meeting and what it means into perspective.

tick tock


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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:42 PM

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Forgive me, but because MSNBC videos gives some here heartburn I just can't help myself from posting more and more of them. Also, they are representative of what all MSM outlets are reporting at this time.

They are reporting the facts and are the best way to push back against the fake news trolling that goes on here.

So here is another one concerning what Mueller is up to.
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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:42 PM

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Despite what I would like to see happen for the good of the country second, I am aware that the removal of a sitting president is next to impossible.

That said, with Trump being more and more isolated, and with him making more and more decisions the republican don't like, I.E. gun control, tariffs and what's left to come, anything is possible. Remember, if the democrats control 51 senate seats then only 16 republicans have to vote for it. Unless they are in very red states with impossible Gerrymandering situations we never know.

If Trump conspired with the Russians, they may have no choice.

I don’t think any GOP Senator will vote against Trump unless there was something in it for the Senator. Maybe worrying about not being reelected? From my experience with Trump voters (exclude the “Independent” voter who voted for Trump) no matter what Trump has done, I don’t think it is possible to change their minds unless Trump testifies against himself. And he will never do that. I don't think Mueller can get Trump to say the words: "I did it. I'm guilty." His last breath will be "Fake News! No Collusion!"



Lets not forget Trump is a national security risk. Mueller knows this and is pursuing the facts needed to prove it. I think congress is aware of this as well. More and more at least as Mueller's investigation progresses.

This was proven to me time and time again by Trumps actions. Going as far back as the beginning of his campaign. And as you can attest, I've been very vocal about it.

As I said, Mueller realizes Trump has been compromised by Russia and is therefore a security risk. Think about it. Russia just threatened us with it's latest weapons technology. Putin actually showed on a large screen while giving a speech to his country a nuclear missile launch simulation. The route of the missile was over the south pole towards us. He also threatened us verbally during this reelection speech.

Trump said and did nothing. He is to busy tweeting in anger at Alec Baldwin. I cannot emphasize enough that the threat Trump poses to this countries national security may force everybody's hand. That along with the perceptions about his mental health deteriorating.

This guy is isolated now like never before. The pressure on him is tremendous and his has been showing signs of cracking up for a while now. Look how tightly he wraps his arms around himself when in these televised meeting; wow. He has no one left in the White House he can trust. With more staff about to abandon ship either willingly or by force. He has the added problem of nobody worth anything wanting to hire on with him. His anxiety, compulsivity, and lashing out is only going to increase.

The situation is untenable. When something is untenable it forces change.


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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:43 PM

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Originally posted by JO753:
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Despite what I would like to see happen for the good of the country second, I am aware that the removal of a sitting president is next to impossible.



Therez the 25th amendment, wich mite be wut Pence woud uze to pry Trump out uv The Chair after he gets impeached and indited. (assuming Pence iznt also indited, wich he shoud be!)


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Lets not forget Trump is a national security risk. Mueller knows this and is pursuing the facts needed to prove it.


How moronic the GoPs are iz prooven every day they dont impeach Trump. They dont need to wait till Mueller indites, so even ignoring the daily crimez and incompetens iz bad enuf, but they are risking him doing sumthing that cant be 'Foxed away' to satisfy their idiot voterz.

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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:43 PM

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Mueller wants documents from Trump, campaign associates

WASHINGTON — The grand jury investigating alleged collusion between Russia and Donald Trump's presidential campaign has issued a subpoena seeking all documents involving the president and a host of his closest advisers, according to a copy of the subpoena reviewed by NBC News.

According to the subpoena, which was sent to a witness by special counsel Robert Mueller, investigators want emails, text messages, work papers, telephone logs and other documents going back to Nov. 1, 2015, 4½ months after Trump launched his campaign.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mueller-wants-documents-from-t
rump-campaign-associates/ar-BBJS7C1?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp


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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:43 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Plus you have Sam Nunberg running around with his hair on fire, screaming at anyone who would listen that he will not submit to a Grand Jury, or will he???

Incredible interview on MSNBC last night where he claimed that Trump did do something illegal, but he claims he doesn't know what that thing is. He went back and forth on complying with Mueller and the Grand Jury.

The Noose is getting tighter!


SGG


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A self-described Russian 'seductress' is claiming she has dirt on Trump

A Russian escort is asking the US government to grant her asylum in exchange for audio recordings that she says reveal new information about Russian meddling in the US election.

The escort says she recorded more than 16 hours of conversations between a Russian oligarch, a top Russian government official, and others about US-Russian relations and the election.

"If America gives me protection, I will tell everything I know," she said on Monday.

"I'm ready to give you all the missing puzzle pieces, support them with videos and audios, regarding the connections of our respected lawmakers with Trump, Manafort and the rest. I know a lot. I'm waiting for your offers and I'm waiting for you in a Thai prison," Vashukevich said in a video she posted on Instagram on her way to the Pattaya jail.

http://www.businessinsider.com/anastasia-vashukevich-russian-escort-ja
iled-in-thailand-claims-dirt-on-trump-2018-3



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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:43 PM

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Mueller has evidence of meeting to set up back channel between U.S., Russians

WASHINGTON — Special counsel Robert Mueller has gathered evidence that a secret meeting in the Seychelles just before the inauguration of Donald Trump was an effort to establish a back channel between the incoming administration and the Kremlin – apparently contradicting statements made to lawmakers by one of its participants, according to people familiar with the matter.

In January 2017, Erik Prince, the founder of the private security company Blackwater, met with a Russian official close to Russian President Vladimir Putin and later described the meeting to congressional investigators as a chance encounter that was not a planned discussion of U.S.-Russia relations.

A witness cooperating with Mueller has told investigators the meeting was set up in advance so that a representative of the Trump transition could meet with an emissary from Moscow to discuss future relations between the countries, according to the people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.


https://www.pressherald.com/2018/03/07/mueller-reportedly-gathering-ev
idence-of-secret-meeting-to-set-up-back-channel-communications-with-russians
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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:48 PM

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Where does it say in the article that this particular guy is the anon source that T's article spoke about?

On another note, we're going to trust a guy who has had dealings with Blackwater? lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Where in the article is the transcript of the testimony before the grand jury by Nader? Nowhere. So there is nothing but rumor. Except I happen to have a secret recording (provided by Nader who organized and attended the meeting) of the conversation between Erik Prince and the Russian banker. The key point made by Prince: "President Donald Trump promises to keep America’s nose out of Russia’s business in Ukraine in exchange for $10 billion dollars deposed into a Seychelles bank. There is nothing America can do about Ukraine, anyway, so why even try? And with this agreement, everybody gets what they want, Comrade!" It is simple to get great recordings of secret meetings to commit treason with the miniature digital voice recorder Edic-mini Tiny. www.amazon.com/Miniature-Digital-Recorder-Edic-mini-Proffesional/dp/B0
0PWZOKSG
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:48 PM

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Mueller zeroing in on Seychelle's meeting as potential Russia back channel

http://www.msnbc.com/velshi-ruhle/watch/erik-prince-may-have-misled-co
ngress-on-his-meeting-with-a-putin-connected-russian-1180432451823



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Sunday, March 24, 2019 9:48 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Mueller is dotting ALL the i's and crossing ALL the t's....by the time he's done, this will be an encyclopedia of money laundering, scamming, murder, corruption, back stabbing, lying, cheating, bottom-of-the-deck dirty dealing, lollipop stealing, prostitute schtumping, blackmail, racist scumbaggery this side of the Watergate Hotel.

The shith ith really going to hith the fan. And it will be worth the wait.


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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Thorough investigation ... plus Due Process to impeach ...

This is takin' too long for me. I wanna see it in my lifetime.


... oooOO}{OOooo ...
Wow, am I going to celebrate when it happens!!!    



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