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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And yet, look at that... the sun still rises.

Somebody really needs to Six Sigma the Government and get rid of all of those unnecessary positions.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The GOP has Six Sigmaed Social Security/Medicare but it continues only because of Democrats. Republicans' Public Opposition To Social Security And Medicare
www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2018/11/02/republican-public-op
position-to-social-security-and-medicare
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It seems Senator McConnell, usually careful not to rock the boat before the upcoming midterm elections, did not set out to tell the electorate that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid cuts were high on the Republican agenda. It appeared to be a slip as he was caught off guard defending the Republican tax cut . . .

The Republican Party has always been associated with opposition to Social Security. Economic historian Max Skidmore shows that the final vote for Social Security was lopsided--only 2% of Democrats voted against it (because it wasn't generous enough) while 33% of Republicans voted against Social Security.

Historian Arthur Schlesinger (page 311) notes that the Republicans echoed corporate opposition to Social Security. A representative of the Illinois manufacturers testified that if Social Security was passed it would undermine America by “destroying initiative, discouraging thrift, and stifling individual responsibility.” In 1935, Republican congressman John Taber said Social Security “is designed to prevent business recovery, to enslave workers, and to prevent any possibility of the employers providing work for the people.”

In the 1970s the conservative Cato Institute made shrinking Social Security through privatization its primary objective and in 2005 George W. Bush tried to replace Social Security . . .

When Medicare was first being considered Senate Republican Robert Dole (then in the House) voted against it. Also in opposition to Medicare, in a famous 1964 speech, Ronald Reagan explained that his opposition to Social Security and Medicare is why he switched from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party. He called Social Security “welfare” and said of the possible regret in not stopping the passage of Medicare: “One of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.”

When Vice President Mike Pence was in Congress he opposed passage of Medicare's Part D, the drug benefit, and complained that Bush's proposal to partially privatize Social Security was not enough; Pence proposed deeper cuts to the Social Security program than President Bush. . . .

Read more at www.forbes.com/sites/teresaghilarducci/2018/11/02/republican-public-op
position-to-social-security-and-medicare
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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:43 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Well, it certainly doesn't tell the SECONDRATE "you" anything, because there's an epic logic-fail going on with the SECONDRATE "you", most likely caused by an emotional glitch of self-hate projected on to others, plus a soupcon of PTSD. Until the SECONDRATE "you" fixes its emotional glitch, the logic unit will continue to bonk.- SIGNYM

The Mueller report is unequivocal in concluding that even if Trump is criminally innocent of obstruction, it is not for lack of trying. The main reason the investigation wasn’t completely thwarted was not that the president didn’t “endeavor” to thwart it — the definition of criminal obstruction — but rather that Trump’s subordinates refused to comply. -SECONDRATE

More logic-fail from SECONDRATE. And that's not an insult, that's a simple observation.

You may have noticed, SECONDRATE, that in this country we don't jail people for what they WANT to do, because that would be jailing people for thought-crime. We only jail people for what they have actually done.

And the reason why Mueller made such a pitch for impeachment (aside from the fact that he's a lying deep-state weasel who joined in on the Iraq WMD fiction as easily as he did on the RUSSIA!RUSSIA! fiction) is because he knows that impeachment is a POLITICAL process, not a legal one, and he was hoping that if Congress couldn't impeach Trump they would at least make political points from then until the election.

There are a lot of policy reasons to not like Trump. There are a lot of policy reasons to not vote Republican.

Democrats should be focusing on THOSE, not on RUSSIA!RUSSIA! or Trump's taxes or "obstruction of justice" which are all just empty (and in fact counterproductive) virtue-signalling.

If the Dems keep at it and nothing else changes, Trump has a great chance of winning the next election.

When will the Dems come up with something other than Trump Derangement Syndrome?



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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 11:14 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Ok, this thread has gone on long enough.

The people here suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome should, at SOME point, absorb the reality that - just like there was NO collusion* with Russia - IMPEACHMENT IS A DEAD ISSUE. It'll never happen, despite the endless digging into the various pretexts and hoped-for causes ... from Trump taxes to so-called "obstruction" ... impeachment is an itch that'll NEVER be scratched,

So, why are we still talking about this?

Turn your thoughts to more productive uses, something BESIDES trying to rewrite history/ deny reality with an endless stream of words, because no matter how much you throw words at this board Trump isn't going to be impeached.

Here is a thread that deserves your attention:
my platform as presidential candidate - what's yours
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63022
Maybe if we bang our heads together we can come up with a series of potential policy options ... Medicare for all or universal basic income? How to save Social Security? How to reduce greenhouse gases? How much would scaling bakc our military options save us? ... that makes fiscal and economic sense.

It's very possible that the economy will implode and hand the Dems an easy win. It's also very possible that the economy will hang together just long enough to allow Trump a shot at victory.

Either way, there are a lot of people ... people BESIDES the dem base ... who are willing to vote for someone besides Trump ... and the Dems should make sure that their candidate is credible enough to attract these independent voters, which means they need to run on something BESIDES Trump Derangment Syndrome.

Let's sharpen our thoughts on who we might want to run, and why. There are 23 (more?) candidates running, so here's a thread on that topic, not too heavily traveled but with some interesting discussion, that should help us focus on what matters.

Dems, Dem-lites, and Independents: Who ya backing at this point and why?
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63028


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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 7:34 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Only 2,144 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002733

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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 7:50 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

There are a lot of policy reasons to not like Trump. There are a lot of policy reasons to not vote Republican.

Democrats should be focusing on THOSE, not on RUSSIA!RUSSIA! or Trump's taxes or "obstruction of justice" which are all just empty (and in fact counterproductive) virtue-signalling.

If the Dems keep at it and nothing else changes, Trump has a great chance of winning the next election.

When will the Dems come up with something other than Trump Derangement Syndrome?

I'll pick a policy issue: the exploding national debt. Voters don't understand a damn about it and they don't want to. When the debt was rising under Obama, the Republicans blamed Obama, not Bush's crash of 2008 for reducing tax receipts. When debt continues to rise under Trump, there is complete denial by the GOP that it has anything to do with the tax code being bent in favor of the wealthy. But what voters will understand is that Trump cheated on his taxes. First, the Democrats have to get their hands on his business records and tax returns, then calculate how much Trump underpaid.

For the Democrats to pay for their policy changes, wealthy people such as Trump and myself will have to pay for it. The tax collection system won't get revised under a Democratic President unless Democrats can firmly pound into the heads of voters that all wealthy people, and especially tax cheating Trump, are swindling the nation. Voters won't understand the arguments by economists, but there is a slim chance they will understand that Trump is a tax crook, if the Democrats can investigate his tax returns.

Signym, do you think a majority of voters will understand The World Bank's new report out on Inequality 2018, if Democrats talked about it? Not a chance. But it is possible to make them understand the GOP supports tax cheating Trump.
https://angrybearblog.com/2019/06/income-inequality-im-tooting-my-own-
horn.html


Go ahead and read all about Inequality. I did, but I'm a 1 Percenter. 99% of voters aren't and they aren't interesting in understanding how they are being screwed or who to vote for (D or R?) to fix it. Voting for a Democrat as President but leaving at least 41 GOP Senators means it won't be fixed. A huge number of GOP Senators will have to lose if there is a chance for the system to change for the better. No amount of talking by Democrats about inequality and tax policy will every make the voters understand, but catching a thief like Trump just might -- it is a very slim chance.


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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 7:51 PM

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Originally posted by second:

When Vice President Mike Pence was in Congress he opposed passage of Medicare's Part D, the drug benefit, and complained that Bush's proposal to partially privatize Social Security was not enough; Pence proposed deeper cuts to the Social Security program than President Bush. . . .




So we do know something about Mike Pence after all.

A vote for impeachment is a vote for President Mike Pence.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

When Vice President Mike Pence was in Congress he opposed passage of Medicare's Part D, the drug benefit, and complained that Bush's proposal to partially privatize Social Security was not enough; Pence proposed deeper cuts to the Social Security program than President Bush. . . .




So we do know something about Mike Pence after all.

A vote for impeachment is a vote for President Mike Pence.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I will diagnose what is wrong with you and the typical Republican. You don't understand the difference between bad and worst because you're always looking for good and best. Pence is bad; Trump is worse; go with Pence and avoid the blunders of a senile, disorganized, old fool. Good and best are not available choices, but you can move toward better. Best would be to ditch the entire Republican party and all their Senators protecting Trump from impeachment and the consequences from his crappy behavior and general incompetence.

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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:15 PM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,144 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002733



More than enough time for Trump to do everything that needs to be done. Only question is will there be enough insane asylums to accommodate the millions of Trump-deranged libtards that don't kill themselves?

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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:

When Vice President Mike Pence was in Congress he opposed passage of Medicare's Part D, the drug benefit, and complained that Bush's proposal to partially privatize Social Security was not enough; Pence proposed deeper cuts to the Social Security program than President Bush. . . .




So we do know something about Mike Pence after all.

A vote for impeachment is a vote for President Mike Pence.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I will diagnose what is wrong with you and the typical Republican. You don't understand the difference between bad and worst because you're always looking for good and best. Pence is bad; Trump is worse; go with Pence and avoid the blunders of a senile, disorganized, old fool. Good and best are not available choices, but you can move toward better. Best would be to ditch the entire Republican party and all their Senators protecting Trump from impeachment and the consequences from his bad behavior and general incompetence.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Good, Best, Bad, Worst...

It's all subjective.

Sorry buddy. Not everybody thinks the way that you do.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:20 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Good, Best, Bad, Worst...

It's all subjective.

Sorry buddy. Not everybody thinks the way that you do.

Too bad for them because they'd be a whole lot more successful. https://markmanson.net/trust

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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 8:29 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Good, Best, Bad, Worst...

It's all subjective.

Sorry buddy. Not everybody thinks the way that you do.

Too bad for them because they'd be a whole lot more successful. https://markmanson.net/trust

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Dude, seriously.

Every single word of the article you just posted could be applied to anyone and their beliefs and biases. Including you.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:06 PM

SIGNYM

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SECOND, how about we meet in the "platform" thread?


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Wednesday, June 19, 2019 10:04 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Here's a link to a 'platform thread': http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63022&p=2

Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
I'll pick a policy issue: the exploding national debt. Voters don't understand a damn about it and they don't want to.



I think voters understand enough to realize that it doesn't matter which party is in the oval office.

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Friday, June 21, 2019 2:15 PM

REAVERFAN


It entirely matters. Republicans start wars and give welfare to the rich and throw us into massive debt, Dems come along and clean up their messes.

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Friday, June 21, 2019 2:16 PM

REAVERFAN


New poll shows Trump is the only U.S. president to never reach 50% approval
https://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watch/new-poll-shows-trump-is-the-only
-u-s-president-to-never-reach-50-approval-62386245630?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma


A Monmouth poll puts Trump's approval rating at 41 percent, making him the only U.S. leader to never hit 50% approval. The same survey shows 59% say he should not be re-elected.

He's the best. At sucking ass.

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Friday, June 21, 2019 5:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Only 2,144 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002733


More than enough time for Trump to do everything that needs to be done. Only question is will there be enough insane asylums to accommodate the millions of Trump-deranged libtards that don't kill themselves?

Don't a bunch of Libtards support euthanasia, eugenics?

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Monday, June 24, 2019 6:51 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Here's a link to a 'platform thread': http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63022&p=2

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Originally posted by SECOND:
I'll pick a policy issue: the exploding national debt. Voters don't understand a damn about it and they don't want to.



I think voters understand enough to realize that it doesn't matter which party is in the oval office.

Do you not remember the Crash in 2008? The one caused by a Republican controlled Federal government letting business do whatever it pleased, no matter how risky? The Crash that reduced tax receipts for years, but also increased Federal expenditures during the Democrat's White House years? Sure, you don't remember because you were in Russia. Take a look at what caused the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression: www.history.com/news/2008-financial-crisis-causes

There is a movie on the 2008 Crash: The Big Short www.metacritic.com/movie/the-big-short

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, June 24, 2019 6:53 AM

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Cartoon Donald Trump launches his reelection bid by soliciting foreign intelligence and thanks Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi for allowing him to get away with it all.



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Monday, June 24, 2019 8:40 AM

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Cartoon Hillary Clinton in a blender.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, June 24, 2019 8:54 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Cartoon Hillary Clinton in a blender.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Cartoon Trump greets crowd: "Hello, racist bumper sticker salespeople, guys who've punched a claw machine, people who frequently graffiti their ex's garage door, teens who will have their Ivy League admission rescinded, and other shrieking jackals!"

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Monday, June 24, 2019 9:26 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by second:
Do you not remember the Crash in 2008? The one caused by a Republican controlled Federal government letting business do whatever it pleased, no matter how risky? The Crash that reduced tax receipts for years, but also increased Federal expenditures during the Democrat's White House years? Sure, you don't remember because you were in Russia. Take a look at what caused the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression: www.history.com/news/2008-financial-crisis-causes

There is a movie on the 2008 Crash: The Big Short www.metacritic.com/movie/the-big-short

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Thanks for the Russia reference. I know you've at your mental 'tilt' when you do that.
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Do you not remember the Crash in 2008?

Do you remember when Obama investigated and prosecuted banks for fraud in 2008? Or any year during his presidency after that? How about when he instituted new, effective controls to keep people's money safe from commercial risk, the way it was under Glass-Steagall - the law that Clinton eliminated? Do you remember when Obama opposed bank bail-in laws in 2014?

Shall I continue?

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Monday, June 24, 2019 9:27 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Here's a link to a 'platform thread': http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63022&p=2

Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
I'll pick a policy issue: the exploding national debt. Voters don't understand a damn about it and they don't want to.



I think voters understand enough to realize that it doesn't matter which party is in the oval office.

Do you not remember the Crash in 2008? The one caused by a Republican controlled Federal government letting business do whatever it pleased, no matter how risky? The Crash that reduced tax receipts for years, but also increased Federal expenditures during the Democrat's White House years? Sure, you don't remember because you were in Russia. Take a look at what caused the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression: www.history.com/news/2008-financial-crisis-causes

There is a movie on the 2008 Crash: The Big Short www.metacritic.com/movie/the-big-short

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Monday, June 24, 2019 7:15 PM

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Here's a link to a 'platform thread': http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63022&p=2
Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
I'll pick a policy issue: the exploding national debt. Voters don't understand a damn about it and they don't want to.

I think voters understand enough to realize that it doesn't matter which party is in the oval office.

Do you not remember the Crash in 2008?

The Rock-The-Vote Democrap Crash/Recession? Yep.
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The one caused by a Republican controlled Federal government
Creative writing class, now? When the Rock-The-Vote Democraps are in Control of the House, the only body with authority to initiate or pass Spending Legislation, then let us rename this Democrap-Controlled House of the Federal Government the "Republican controlled Federal Government" - just for kicks, or delusion.
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letting business do whatever it pleased, no matter how risky?
Wrong again. The Rock-The-Vote Demopcraps did the exact opposite, bringing a halt to businesses prospering and driving the economy, instead stifling the economy just like they had campaigned to do. They took office in Jan 2007, and started working on their very first Federal Budget - their very first one!! This was the FY 2008 Budget. And when their FY 2008 Budget went into effect in October 2007, that very month the economy stopped it's upward trajectory - the very same month!!! It must be coincidence, it cannot be anything else!! After they stuck their fingers into the recipe for economic growth, and the recipe was soured, then they blamed everybody else for the disaster they had created!!
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The Crash that reduced tax receipts for years, but also increased Federal expenditures during the Democrat's White House years? Sure, you don't remember because you were in Russia. Take a look at what caused the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression: www.history.com/news/2008-financial-crisis-causes

There is a movie on the 2008 Crash: The Big Short www.metacritic.com/movie/the-big-short

And here we have a movie to base all of our education upon!! This film seems to be about the real estate/mortgage scam fraud, perpetrated by Obama and his ACORN goons!! More Libtards sticking their fingers into the recipe until it was completely soured, and then blaming everybody else for the disaster they had created!!

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Monday, June 24, 2019 7:38 PM

JONGSSTRAW


By destroying long-established banking rules of credit and collateral Democrats Frank and Dodd created the opportunity for the massive scam. And with insurers like AIG and Fannie Mae recklessly backing all the bad loans, greed and corruption ran amok.

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Monday, June 24, 2019 8:14 PM

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The destruction of the US economy has been a bi-partisan effort for decades.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:31 PM

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Trump denies woman's sexual assault accusation: 'She's not my type'
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-women/trump-denies-womans-sexual-
assault-accusation-shes-not-my-type-idUSKCN1TQ24S


Following Trump's leadership, Trump voters are issuing death threats to the woman.

Donald Trump Is an Alleged Serial Sexual Assaulter
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/06/donald-trump-is-an-alleged-seri
al-sexual-assaulter
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"I am astonished by what I’m about to write: I keep laughing. The next moment, still wearing correct business attire, shirt, tie, suit jacket, overcoat, he opens the overcoat, unzips his pants, and, forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me. It turns into a colossal struggle. I am wearing a pair of sturdy black patent-leather four-inch Barneys high heels, which puts my height around six-one, and I try to stomp his foot. I try to push him off with my one free hand — for some reason, I keep holding my purse with the other — and I finally get a knee up high enough to push him out and off and I turn, open the door, and run out of the dressing room.

The whole episode lasts no more than three minutes. I do not believe he ejaculates."

This episode hasn’t gotten an awful lot of attention. This is the first I’ve written about it, for example. Why? I don’t think it has anything to do with media outlets not taking rape allegations seriously. The real answer is almost worse: (a) everybody just assumes the story is true and (b) everybody knows that it will have no effect on either Trump’s fans or his Republican Party colleagues. Trump will issue a pro forma denial; nobody will take it seriously; and that will be that. Just like the other 15 times.

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Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:36 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


She said ... he said ... and SECOND farted.




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Trump denies woman's sexual assault accusation: 'She's not my type'



Good for him.

That's the only reply that it deserves.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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She said ... he said ... and SECOND farted.

In response to the latest allegation that he engaged in a sexual assault, Donald Trump’s first line of defense is to claim that the victim is not his kind of woman — he doesn’t deny that he is this kind of man.

In reference to E. Jean Carroll, Trump says: “Number one, she’s not my type,” but he leaves open the possibility that any woman who is his type, might be the type of woman he would consider raping if she rejected his sexual advances.

Likewise, in refuting the allegations, his second line of defense is historical inaccuracy: “Number two, it never happened,” rather than asserting he would never act in such a way.

One could argue that it would be pointless for Trump to flatly assert that he is not a rapist, since it is a universally known and irrefutable fact that Trump is a liar.

But since we all know he’s a liar, whenever he says, “it never happened,” there’s all the more reason to suspect it did happen.

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Tuesday, June 25, 2019 3:08 PM

1KIKI

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You're gassy, SECOND.

Either stop using this website as your toilet and just plain leave, or start discussing something meaningful.





And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
You're gassy, SECOND.

Either stop using this website as your toilet and just plain leave, or start discussing something meaningful.

"I 100% believe Trump is a serial rapist — but in fairness it's only because I've looked at the evidence, am intimately familiar with rape and sexual assault cases from my prior work as a criminal defense attorney, and have watched Trump tick every consciousness-of-guilt box for years."

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1142546301755842561

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

I detect a difference in how the GOP handles Trump being a serial rapist.

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Tuesday, June 25, 2019 3:50 PM

1KIKI

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
"I've looked at the evidence"

Since there IS no 'evidence', which is a completely alien concept to your ilk, by that the idiot you quoted means ...
Quote:

"(I've) watched Trump tick every consciousness-of-guilt box for years."
Sure.

Whatever.

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I detect a difference in how the GOP handles Trump being a serial rapist.

You mean as compared to the democrats and Clinton?

Whatever.

Stop using this place as your personal toilet and smelling it up with your farts.




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac


BTW - I GUARANTEE you won't be able to come up with any evidence - which means, more than someone's say-so - that Trump is a serial rapist.

AND IN ADDITION I GUARANTEE that you'll change the subject since you have no evidence to justify your farts on the topic.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
"I've looked at the evidence"

Since there IS no 'evidence', which is a completely alien concept to your ilk, by that the idiot you quoted means ...
Quote:

"(I've) watched Trump tick every consciousness-of-guilt box for years."
Sure.

Whatever.

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I detect a difference in how the GOP handles Trump being a serial rapist.

You mean as compared to the democrats and Clinton?

Whatever.

Stop using this place as your personal toilet and smelling it up with your farts.




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac


BTW - I GUARANTEE you won't be able to come up with any evidence - which means, more than someone's say-so - that Trump is a serial rapist.

AND IN ADDITION I GUARANTEE that you'll change the subject since you have no evidence to justify your farts on the topic.

1kiki, it's almost like you are being paid by the word to defend Trump as his lawyer. His actual lawyers are making a case that there needs to be "proof" that foreigners are paying Trump. Trump's lawyers' position is that all foreigners doing business with Trump's companies are presumed to be getting Trump's services for free until proven different and Trump's lawyers aren't cooperating with showing how much Trump is being paid. In the case of Trump raping women, the lawyers' argument is that there needs to be proof Trump had an orgasm.

Trump loses bid to halt Democratic lawsuit over foreign payments.

The lawsuit against Trump accuses him of violating the so-called emoluments clause of the Constitution, which bans U.S. officials from accepting gifts or payments from foreign governments without congressional consent.

The judge issued a 48-page decision that rejected Trump’s argument that emoluments were limited essentially to bribes, calling that definition “unpersuasive and inconsistent.”

Sullivan said he agreed with the congressional Democrats who brought the case that the clause should be read more broadly as barring an official from taking any payment of any kind whatsoever from a foreign state without congressional approval.

The ruling allows the Democratic plaintiffs, led by Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and including members of the House of Representatives and Senate, to begin the so-called discovery phase of the case in which they will seek records from Trump’s real estate company.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-emoluments/trump-loses-bid-to-hal
t-democratic-lawsuit-over-foreign-payments-idUSKCN1TQ2N2


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Tuesday, June 25, 2019 4:48 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


More farts from a gassy SECOND.

I noticed you couldn't point to EVIDENCE besides someone's SAY-SO OR an uninvolved third party OPINION. Because you're soft in the head.

But you sure are bloated in the gut.




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac


I noticed you changed the topic from evidence to *proof*. Because besides being bloated in the gut you're lacking in ethics.

You're a great representative of your side.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
More farts from a gassy SECOND.

I noticed you couldn't point to EVIDENCE besides someone's SAY-SO OR an uninvolved third party OPINION. Because you're soft in the head.

But you sure are bloated in the gut.




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac


I noticed you changed the topic from evidence to *proof*. Because besides being bloated in the gut you're lacking in ethics.

You're a great representative of your side.

1kiki, now you're off litigating evidence vs. proof. You really are a nutjob. Do you recall that Trump's lawyer is in prison for paying bribes to two women? Trump still denies he had sex with the women and there is no "proof" he did, other than the women saying Trump did have sex, but his lawyer remains in jail despite that. Trump says his lawyer lied about the women, the bribes, everything. Trump also said he is not a serial rapist, either, so he must be "innocent" because there is no "proof"/evidence, other than 16 women saying he raped them.
www.cnbc.com/2019/05/06/trumps-ex-lawyer-michael-cohen-enters-prison.h
tml


Then there is Trump taking money from foreigners. He denied it happened. He says nothing can be "proved" and his lawyers won't turn over business records of the payments.

Then there are Trump's taxes. He denies he cheated, and says nobody can "prove" he did. But he won't turn over his tax records, unlike every President, Vice-President and all candidates. There are many reasons to think he did cheat and no reasons to believe him or his lawyers.
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-sc
hemes-fred-trump.html

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/5/10/18537282/trump-tax-returns-c
ongress-irs

www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/

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Tuesday, June 25, 2019 6:55 PM

1KIKI

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You're doing a good job of changing the topic and misrepresenting what other people post, as always, in order to not admit you lost your own argument.

It's just more farts from the endless gasbag.




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
You're doing a good job of changing the topic and misrepresenting what other people post, as always, in order to not admit you lost your own argument.

It's just more farts from the endless gasbag.

1kiki, the topic is unchanged: Trump is a liar. As President, Trump should make a convincing case that he is not cheating on his taxes, but he won't make the case, feeling only the need to say he isn't cheating. He feels no need to reveal his tax returns or business records to demonstrate his honesty. Even Nixon cooperated on his taxes. Congress discovered he owed taxes equal to 50% of Nixon's net-worth. Nixon willing paid. Trump is not willing.
www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df80075b9dd/f
8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument


As President, Trump needs to convince us that his businesses are not taking bribes from foreigners, but he can't be bothered to make that case, either. He says he is not being bribed, and he could produce his business records to prove it, but his lawyers fight that in court.

Then there is the money-laundering, but Trump thinks denying he did it is enough, despite that he could prove it, but only if he would try. He won't try.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/deutsche-flagged-trump-kushner-
for-money-laundering-report.html


Then there is the raping. Ask Trump for a DNA sample. You won't get one. Ask him about his lawyer paying women and his lawyer going to jail. Trump will call his lawyer a liar and Trump says he never had sex with those women. The women disagree.

In every case of possible crimes, Trump only gives you his word to defend himself. He won't give anybody the evidence that he is innocent despite his complete control of evidence. He won't share because he knows it shows he is guilty.

1kiki, stop taking Trump's word for his innocence and start demanding he prove it with all the evidence he has kept hidden about himself and his businesses and his taxes. He is not a private citizen. He needs to stop saying "Believe me" and start proving it. Since Trump won't start, I think it is because the evidence Trump controls proves he is guilty.

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Tuesday, June 25, 2019 8:52 PM

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Broken record much?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Broken record much?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

If this was real life, persistence pays. But this isn't real life where I can fire an employee like Trump for being incompetent or dishonest or embezzling or a rapist.

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Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Broken record much?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

If this was real life, persistence pays. But this isn't real life where I can fire Trump for being incompetent or dishonest or embezzling or a rapist.



Or "not a democrat", huh?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, June 25, 2019 9:10 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


SLOPPY SECONDS


You say the topic is "unchanged"

Shall I count the ways you've lied?

" Trump is a liar. "

Wait.

I thought he was a rapist. That was the topic. Because, you know, he never denied he was that kind of man. (Does that mean you can count on his words to be true?)

No. WAIT. It's because someone looked at non-existent 'evidence' and decided out of thin air it must be true. And ... as I predicted ... you never DID come up with evidence AND you changed the subject!

You claimed Trump is guilty of getting some kind of payments because - who needs *proof* there were any actual payments! DOOD. What about the whole 'rape' thing. And the 'rape-evidence' thing.

In the very next post you changed to topic to 'Who needs *proof* of ANYthing'??!!!

And then you changed the topic once again to claim it was about Trump being a liar.



I'm going to stop wasting my time on you, but I did want to point out TO YOU what a lying pos you are.

Just because ... it feels good to tell the truth.




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Or "not a democrat", huh?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

There is correlation between being stupid and being poor. There is also a correlation between being a self-righteous Republican and being a bad employee deserving firing. It is unsurprising that Trump's bad behavior: his incompetence, his dishonesty, his laziness, his sexual harassment, etc. has been copied by Trump voters. These are the kind of things that will get you fired in the real world, but Trump has not been fired because he has tenure. He can't be fired.

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lol

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This week there was a murder trial where the accused slashed, superficially, his own throat. The judge told jurors to ignore this outburst and not use it as evidence in the case. Likewise, Trump superficially slashing his own throat by accusing his White House Counsel, Don McGahn, of lying under oath to Mueller. Trump slashed again by claiming executive privilege and barring McGahn from testifying to Congress. Please ignore the weird verbal outbursts in public by Trump and the accused murderer. Don’t use the outbursts as evidence. Except it is evidence of guilt.

www.cnn.com/2019/06/25/us/defendant-murder-slash-throat-court/index.ht
ml

www.salon.com/2019/06/14/trump-suggests-don-mcgahn-lied-to-mueller-und
er-oath-and-bars-his-testimony
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lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

This week the Trump administration official in charge of diplomatic protocol will resign. Sean Lawler, State Department Chief of Protocol, believed his job in "Protocol" was to be an asshole to civil-service employees, which is against the written rules. Breaking the rules finally caught up with him. For some reason, such rules are not yet enforced when it is Trump.

Lawler, a fixture in the Oval office during dignitaries’ visits, was the president’s liaison to the diplomatic corps at the State Department. Lawler, who is in a position confirmed by the Senate and has the rank of ambassador, was scheduled to accompany the president to the G-20 on Friday and Saturday.

If Trump resigned now, same as Lawler and for the same reason, V.P. Mike Pence will more capably handle the G-20 than Trump will. It's a job, folks, and Trump can't learn how to do it because he's too proud to learn.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-25/trump-s-protocol-chief-is-q
uitting-just-before-the-g-20-summit


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SLOPPY SECONDS

I'm going to stop wasting my time on you, but I did want to point out TO YOU what a lying pos you are.

Just because ... it feels good to tell the truth.

Sure would, if only you and Trump were truthful. Trump hits back at Mueller hearing. "It's so illegal, it's probably the biggest political scandal in history and they got caught doing it." Truly, Trump is crazy with guilt and his GOP Congressmen will attack Mueller for investigating Trump.

www.foxnews.com/politics/mueller-subpoena-could-backfire-on-democrats-
say-political-legal-experts


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fart

FIFY




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Wednesday, June 26, 2019 8:31 PM

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Quote:

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

This week the Trump administration official in charge of diplomatic protocol will resign. Sean Lawler, State Department Chief of Protocol, believed his job in "Protocol" was to be an asshole to civil-service employees, which is against the written rules. Breaking the rules finally caught up with him. For some reason, such rules are not yet enforced when it is Trump.

Lawler, a fixture in the Oval office during dignitaries’ visits, was the president’s liaison to the diplomatic corps at the State Department. Lawler, who is in a position confirmed by the Senate and has the rank of ambassador, was scheduled to accompany the president to the G-20 on Friday and Saturday.

If Trump resigned now, same as Lawler and for the same reason, V.P. Mike Pence will more capably handle the G-20 than Trump will. It's a job, folks, and Trump can't learn how to do it because he's too proud to learn.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-25/trump-s-protocol-chief-is-q
uitting-just-before-the-g-20-summit


Is this the guy that Trump yelled at for coughing during an interview, trying to stop POTUS from saying something dumb?

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Wednesday, June 26, 2019 8:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
SLOPPY SECONDS


You say the topic is "unchanged"

Shall I count the ways you've lied?

" Trump is a liar. "

Wait.

I thought he was a rapist. That was the topic. Because, you know, he never denied he was that kind of man. (Does that mean you can count on his words to be true?)

No. WAIT. It's because someone looked at non-existent 'evidence' and decided out of thin air it must be true. And ... as I predicted ... you never DID come up with evidence AND you changed the subject!

You claimed Trump is guilty of getting some kind of payments because - who needs *proof* there were any actual payments! DOOD. What about the whole 'rape' thing. And the 'rape-evidence' thing.

In the very next post you changed to topic to 'Who needs *proof* of ANYthing'??!!!

And then you changed the topic once again to claim it was about Trump being a liar.



I'm going to stop wasting my time on you, but I did want to point out TO YOU what a lying pos you are.

Just because ... it feels good to tell the truth.


And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

Welcome to the Club.

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