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Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I just did my new daily ritual of Googling "President of the United States" just to see if anything has changed.

Nothing yet. It still says Donald Trump.

Maybe tomorrow.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, October 3, 2019 8:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

I guess you can take that to the bank with you and masturbate over how intellectually superior you are to everybody else when impeachment doesn't happen and Trump is your president until 2025.

Have a nice day.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The one weird thing between Trump voters and Trump is his income tax returns. There is no GOOD reason for him to keep them secret, especially after he promised many times he would publicize the returns. The BAD reason is he cheated on his taxes. Now that he is President, he is still keeping his returns secret. That is prima facie evidence he is cheating while in the White House. You should really, really look at all the other Presidents, Vice-Presidents, and candidates making their returns public. Every last one of them dumped their returns for public review. But Not Trump. Trump is a crook.
www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns
www.efile.com/historic-1040-income-tax-returns-of-us-presidents-and-ca
ndidates
/

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Thursday, October 3, 2019 9:02 PM

THG


Perilous times for Trump: By 45%-38%, Americans support impeaching him over Ukraine allegations, poll finds

Americans by a 45%-38% plurality now support a vote by the House of Representatives to impeach President Donald Trump, a USA TODAY/Ipsos Poll finds, as allegations continue to swirl around an embattled White House.

By a similar margin, 44%-35%, those surveyed say the Senate, which would then be charged with holding a trial of the president, should convict Trump and remove him from office.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/perilous-times-for-trump-by-45
percent-38percent-americans-support-impeaching-him-over-ukraine-allegations-poll-finds/ar-AAId5Cr?ocid=spartandhp


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Thursday, October 3, 2019 10:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Perilous times for Trump: By 45%-38%, Americans support impeaching him over Ukraine allegations, poll finds

For the 38% who don't think Trump should be impeached: The Federal Election Commission chair tweets reminder that accepting foreign help in an election is illegal after Trump urges China to investigate Joe Biden

www.cnbc.com/2019/10/03/fec-chair-subtweets-trump-after-plea-for-china
-to-investigate-bidens.html


Today's tweet
https://twitter.com/EllenLWeintraub/status/1179783410820292608

Chair Ellen L. Weintraub
Federal Election Commission
Washington, DC. 20463

Statement Regarding Illegal Contributions From Foreign Governments
June 13, 2019
Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.1 This is not a novel concept. Electoral intervention from foreign governments has been considered unacceptable since the beginnings of our nation. Our Founding Fathers sounded the alarm about “foreign Interference, Intrigue, and Influence.” They knew that when foreign governments seek to influence American politics, it is always to advance their own interests, not America’s. Anyone who solicits or accepts foreign assistance risks being on the wrong end of a federal investigation. Any political campaign that receives an offer of a prohibited donation from a foreign source should report that offer to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Footnote 1: 52 U.S.C. § 30121(a)(2).

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, October 3, 2019 10:36 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Just because a billion flies eat shit, doesn't make it caviar.

Here's another example of flies eating shit:



I bet you supported the war, too.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Thursday, October 3, 2019 11:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

I guess you can take that to the bank with you and masturbate over how intellectually superior you are to everybody else when impeachment doesn't happen and Trump is your president until 2025.

Have a nice day.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

The one weird thing between Trump voters and Trump is his income tax returns. There is no GOOD reason for him to keep them secret, especially after he promised many times he would publicize the returns. The BAD reason is he cheated on his taxes. Now that he is President, he is still keeping his returns secret. That is prima facie evidence he is cheating while in the White House. You should really, really look at all the other Presidents, Vice-Presidents, and candidates making their returns public. Every last one of them dumped their returns for public review. But Not Trump. Trump is a crook.
www.taxnotes.com/presidential-tax-returns
www.efile.com/historic-1040-income-tax-returns-of-us-presidents-and-ca
ndidates
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




I've never said otherwise.

How can I put this clearly, Second...

I don't give a shit about Trump's tax returns.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 4, 2019 1:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

How can I put this clearly, Second...

I don't give a shit about Trump's tax returns.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And Trump doesn't give a shit about you, but he loves people like me . . . rich people. I cannot love Trump back because he cheats on his taxes. Such a crook he is.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 4, 2019 1:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Just because a billion flies eat shit, doesn't make it caviar.

Here's another example of flies eating shit:



I bet you supported the war, too.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

I never supported the Iraq War because I have been to war, unlike Trump, who did support the War, at first. Opinions about Iraq changed the longer the war continued, but mine never did because I knew what was going to happen as the years went by. I had read "The Fifty-First State?"
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/11/the-fifty-first-state/302
612
/
Going to war with Iraq would mean shouldering all the responsibilities of an occupying power the moment victory was achieved. These would include running the economy, keeping domestic peace, and protecting Iraq's borders—and doing it all for years, or perhaps decades. Are we ready for this long-term relationship?

If I looked around, I could find dozens of articles that say Trump is mentally unfit to be President, but I knew that decades ago because I know how to run a business and Trump has been infamous for decades for being a rotten businessman. He has always been crazy, lazy, and disorganized and he is getting worse.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 4, 2019 6:46 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

How can I put this clearly, Second...

I don't give a shit about Trump's tax returns.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And Trump doesn't give a shit about you, but he loves people like me . . . rich people. I cannot love Trump back because he cheats on his taxes. Such a crook he is.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




I don't care if Trump doesn't give a shit about me. I'm not the one that's obsessed with him.


BTW, it's Friday today. Why is a rich cattle ranch owner still making posts about Trump in the middle of the night? Don't you have to actually do any work for your money?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 4, 2019 8:16 AM

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Trump’s Allies Are Running Out of Excuses

It’s dawning on Republicans that the normal defenses of presidential misconduct won’t work this time, since its the Federal Election Commission, not the GOP controlled Senate, that decides if Trump's mouth broke election laws.

www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-10-04/donald-trump-s-allies-ar
e-running-out-of-defenses-on-ukraine


Chair Ellen L. Weintraub
Federal Election Commission
Washington, DC. 20463

Statement Regarding Illegal Contributions From Foreign Governments
June 13, 2019
Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.1 This is not a novel concept. Electoral intervention from foreign governments has been considered unacceptable since the beginnings of our nation. Our Founding Fathers sounded the alarm about “foreign Interference, Intrigue, and Influence.” They knew that when foreign governments seek to influence American politics, it is always to advance their own interests, not America’s. Anyone who solicits or accepts foreign assistance risks being on the wrong end of a federal investigation. Any political campaign that receives an offer of a prohibited donation from a foreign source should report that offer to the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Footnote 1: 52 U.S.C. § 30121(a)(2).
www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/Chair_Weintraub_on_Illegal
_Foreign_Contributions.pdf


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Friday, October 4, 2019 11:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Then do something about it. Period.

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Friday, October 4, 2019 5:51 PM

THG


Treasury Inspector General to Review Handling of Trump’s Tax Returns

The inquiry comes amid new concerns about political interference in the handling of Mr. Trump’s tax returns, which — like those of all presidents — are subjected to a mandatory audit. An Internal Revenue Service whistle-blower filed a complaint over the summer claiming that senior Treasury officials tried to exert improper influence over the audit.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/treasury-inspector-general-to-
review-handling-of-trumps-tax-returns/ar-AAIiDAo?ocid=spartandhp


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Friday, October 4, 2019 8:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Treasury Inspector General to Review Handling of Trump’s Tax Returns

The inquiry comes amid new concerns about political interference in the handling of Mr. Trump’s tax returns, which — like those of all presidents — are subjected to a mandatory audit. An Internal Revenue Service whistle-blower filed a complaint over the summer claiming that senior Treasury officials tried to exert improper influence over the audit.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/treasury-inspector-general-to-
review-handling-of-trumps-tax-returns/ar-AAIiDAo?ocid=spartandhp


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Anon

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 4, 2019 8:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
blah blah blah ...


fify

And maybe let THUGGER respond for himself, unless you think he's too brain-dead, of course.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Friday, October 4, 2019 8:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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BTW... I just Googled "President of the United States" again. Still says Donald Trump.

Not likely to change over the weekend, I suppose.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 5, 2019 8:48 AM

THG


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Saturday, October 5, 2019 8:50 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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How many times does the clock tick tock from now until October 15th?

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Saturday, October 5, 2019 9:21 AM

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For several years there’s been a kind of competition on the right to come up with a coherent intellectual or ideological framework to support Trump’s presidency. Every single one that comes out of the clouds of theory to get close to the reality on the ground has crashed. He’s a nationalist who puts America first but says we’ll await Saudi Arabia’s say-so on a military strike against Iran. He says he wants free trade but also thinks tariffs are good.

Just this week, the same people who insisted that Trump would never collude with a foreign nation for his political interest are now defending collusion with a foreign nation for his political interest. The people who turn crimson with rage when you point out Trump’s decades of corrupt business practices now insist his only interest in the Bidens is his concern about corruption. They say it’s outrageous that Biden’s son sat on the board of a Ukrainian company when Biden was vice president, but they also say it’s fine to have a daughter and son-in-law duo running vast swaths of foreign and domestic policy while also making a fortune from their business interests around the world. Enemies are sinful or decadent when they lie or cheat on their wives, but who are you to judge Comrade Trump?

There’s no halfway defensible ideological, intellectual or moral standard that Trump doesn’t violate, often routinely. A cult of personality that replies “Trump’s right” or “his enemies are worse” before the question is even asked is the only place to hide.

www.baltimoresun.com/sns-201910031637--tms--jgoldbrgctnjg-a20191004-20
191004-column.html


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Saturday, October 5, 2019 9:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol

Nah. Nobody here is getting crimson with rage.

Maybe a little short on breath from time to time from laughing so hard.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, October 6, 2019 9:05 AM

THG


Rick Perry denies discussing Bidens with Trump or Ukraine officials

Perry’s name has come up in connection with the Trump-Ukraine phone call saga, after news outlet Axios reported that Trump told House Republicans he made the July phone call to the Ukrainian president based on Perry’s recommendation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rick-perry-denies-discussing-b
idens-with-trump-or-ukraine-officials-reports/ar-AAIlPlK?ocid=spartandhp


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Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:04 AM

JO753

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Romney haz alwayz been agenst Trump. If Rick turnz on Trump, I think the gig iz up. They will start falling like dominoz and not even Moscow Mitch will be able to save him.

Here'z an idea: The propaganda network will start sirculating a story that Trump wuz working for the Demz all along to bring down the GoPs.

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Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:14 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Romney haz alwayz been agenst Trump. If Rick turnz on Trump, I think the gig iz up. They will start falling like dominoz and not even Moscow Mitch will be able to save him.

Here'z an idea: The propaganda network will start sirculating a story that Trump wuz working for the Demz all along to bring down the GoPs.




They'll flip on Trump soon I hope. Trump is outing others like Perry, Pence, Barr in order to keep them from bailing. That said, don't you find it telling that all the trolls here who post constantly about our corrupt government, are now upset about whistleblowers exposing corruption in our government? Think about JO.

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Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:19 AM

THG


These Republicans May Not Endorse an Impeachment Inquiry. But They Aren’t Saying No.

As evidence mounts that Mr. Trump engaged in an intensive effort to pressure the leader of Ukraine to investigate a political rival, Mr. Amodei is one of a growing number of Republicans who, while not explicitly endorsing the Democrats’ impeachment inquiry, are at least indicating an openness to it. None have said Mr. Trump should be impeached. But neither are they defending him.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/these-republicans-may-not-endo
rse-an-impeachment-inquiry-but-they-arent-saying-no/ar-AAIjIjc?ocid=spartanntp


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Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:33 AM

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... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Romney haz alwayz been agenst Trump. If Rick turnz on Trump, I think the gig iz up. They will start falling like dominoz and not even Moscow Mitch will be able to save him.

Here'z an idea: The propaganda network will start sirculating a story that Trump wuz working for the Demz all along to bring down the GoPs.



I believe 6 has said something similar. "Mark my words, the MSM will start to reluctantly embrace Trump."

I think he's toast as well. Republicans will start cracking. A couple here and there, none of any real significance, and then gradually bigger and more respected members will speak up when they see he's a black hole and they need to get some distance.

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Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:36 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Romney haz alwayz been agenst Trump. If Rick turnz on Trump, I think the gig iz up. They will start falling like dominoz and not even Moscow Mitch will be able to save him.

Here'z an idea: The propaganda network will start sirculating a story that Trump wuz working for the Demz all along to bring down the GoPs.



I believe 6 has said something similar. "Mark my words, the MSM will start to reluctantly embrace Trump."

I think he's toast as well. Republicans will start cracking. A couple here and there, none of any real significance, and then gradually bigger and more respected members will speak up when they see he's a black hole and they need to get some distance.



‘Out on a limb’: Inside the Republican reckoning over Trump’s possible impeachment

A torrent of impeachment developments has triggered a reckoning in the Republican Party, paralyzing many of its officeholders as they weigh their political futures, legacies and, ultimately, their allegiance to a president who has held them captive.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/out-on-a-limb-inside-the-repub
lican-reckoning-over-trumps-possible-impeachment/ar-AAIm4V3?ocid=spartandhp


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Sunday, October 6, 2019 12:38 PM

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Sunday, October 6, 2019 2:55 PM

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Only 2,034 days remaining on the Impeachment Clock.

How exciting. 002780

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Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I wonder what else they'll come up with when the Ukraine thing disappears from the headlines.

By election time, most people won't even remember that the Russia thing was ever a thing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, October 6, 2019 9:03 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

By election time, most people won't even remember that the Russia thing was ever a thing.
Do Right, Be Right. :)

I think you're far too optimistic about people's brainz. They've already forgotten the whole Russia thing existed, let alone that it imploded.

It was too painful to think about, so they just ... made it mentally disappear, as quickly as possible.


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Monday, October 7, 2019 9:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

By election time, most people won't even remember that the Russia thing was ever a thing.
Do Right, Be Right. :)

I think you're far too optimistic about people's brainz. They've already forgotten the whole Russia thing existed, let alone that it imploded.

It was too painful to think about, so they just ... made it mentally disappear, as quickly as possible.

Will they remember Trump's extraordinary claim that any occupant of the White House enjoys absolute immunity from criminal process of any kind? If they don't understand Trump's claim, their minds must be very shallow. If they do understand, they won't forget.

A federal judge on Monday dismissed a lawsuit brought by President Donald Trump in his effort to block a subpoena issued by the Manhattan district attorney's office for eight years of Trump's tax returns, rejecting the President's "extraordinary" claim that any occupant of the White House enjoys "absolute immunity from criminal process of any kind."

Describing Trump's argument as a "categorical and limitless assertion of Presidential immunity," US District Court Judge Victor Marrero wrote in an opinion that it "would constitute an overreach of executive power."

www.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/trump-tax-returns-lawsuit/index.html

The 75 page ruling is here:
www.cnn.com/2019/10/07/politics/sdny-ruling-trump-tax-returns/index.ht
ml

"The Court is not persuaded that the burdens and interferences the President describes in this case would substantially impair the President's ability to perform his constitutional duties. See Clinton, 520 U.S. at 705"

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Monday, October 7, 2019 11:31 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

By election time, most people won't even remember that the Russia thing was ever a thing.
Do Right, Be Right. :)

I think you're far too optimistic about people's brainz. They've already forgotten the whole Russia thing existed, let alone that it imploded.

It was too painful to think about, so they just ... made it mentally disappear, as quickly as possible.

Will they remember Trump's extraordinary claim that any occupant of the White House enjoys absolute immunity from criminal process of any kind? If they don't understand Trump's claim, their minds must be very shallow. If they do understand, they won't forget.




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Tuesday, October 8, 2019 12:55 PM

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Tuesday, October 8, 2019 2:40 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Romney haz alwayz been agenst Trump. If Rick turnz on Trump, I think the gig iz up. They will start falling like dominoz and not even Moscow Mitch will be able to save him.

Here'z an idea: The propaganda network will start sirculating a story that Trump wuz working for the Demz all along to bring down the GoPs.



I believe 6 has said something similar. "Mark my words, the MSM will start to reluctantly embrace Trump."

I think he's toast as well. Republicans will start cracking. A couple here and there, none of any real significance, and then gradually bigger and more respected members will speak up when they see he's a black hole and they need to get some distance.



Analysis: Trump loves to tout his base. But a new poll shows increasing GOP support for impeachment — and even removing him.

A new Washington Post-Schar School poll shows support for an impeachment inquiry rising to a new high after Democrats formally launched one. The 58 percent who support the inquiry is higher than in any other poll; the 38 percent who oppose it suggests only Trump’s most devoted base is now opposed.
But even that isn’t quite accurate — because it shows some of Trump’s base does support the inquiry and even his removal.

In fact, 28 percent of Republicans support the impeachment inquiry, and 18 percent say they support removing Trump from office, according to the poll. The rise in GOP support for the impeachment inquiry in the poll is commensurate with the rise in support among other groups, according to The Post’s Dan Balz and Scott Clement:

Since a July poll by The Post and ABC, there has been movement toward an impeachment inquiry among all three groups, with support for the inquiry rising by 25 points among Democrats, 21 points among Republicans and 20 points among independents.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-trump-loves-to-tout-h
is-base-but-a-new-poll-shows-increasing-gop-support-for-impeachment-—-and-even-removing-him/ar-AAIrZ9I?ocid=spartanntp


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Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:14 PM

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You may be rite, 6string.

There are eerie senez in Blade in wich extreem violens happenz on a bizzy street, then secondz later the pedestrianz are bak to wokking wherever they are going az if nothing happened.

I am alredy feeling like the Demz are dropping the ball agen. The usual GoP congressmen and senatorz are doing the politics show serkit, furiously slapping together a cover story and their sheepl are gobbling up every bit az fast az they can.

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 9:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
You may be rite, 6string.

There are eerie senez in Blade in wich extreem violens happenz on a bizzy street, then secondz later the pedestrianz are bak to wokking wherever they are going az if nothing happened.

I am alredy feeling like the Demz are dropping the ball agen. The usual GoP congressmen and senatorz are doing the politics show serkit, furiously slapping together a cover story and their sheepl are gobbling up every bit az fast az they can.



I don't think they're dropping the ball. I think Nancy's playing a game with Trump.

Trump wants impeachment. He's all but begging for it. He's got nothing to lose and everything to gain by it.

I have zero faith that Nancy was ever going to go through with it. She's just letting it hang out there right now, conveniently right before they all went on a two week recess and nothing would be done, just to see what the polling numbers will come back at. And right now, a 58% approval for impeachment proceedings (which includes a LOT of people like me who want it done for a very different reason than you do) is not good enough.

Certainly not when his approval rating hasn't budged at all during the same time frame. And certainly not when Trump still holds too many of the keys to the White House.

There has never been any serious attempt at impeachment yet, JO. At the end of the day that's because after more than 3 years the worst thing the Democrats have on Trump is the Billy Bush tapes that came out before he was elected.



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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:18 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
You may be rite, 6string.

There are eerie senez in Blade in wich extreem violens happenz on a bizzy street, then secondz later the pedestrianz are bak to wokking wherever they are going az if nothing happened.

I am alredy feeling like the Demz are dropping the ball agen. The usual GoP congressmen and senatorz are doing the politics show serkit, furiously slapping together a cover story and their sheepl are gobbling up every bit az fast az they can.



I don't think they're dropping the ball. I think Nancy's playing a game with Trump.

Trump wants impeachment. He's all but begging for it. He's got nothing to lose and everything to gain by it.

I have zero faith that Nancy was ever going to go through with it. She's just letting it hang out there right now, conveniently right before they all went on a two week recess and nothing would be done, just to see what the polling numbers will come back at. And right now, a 58% approval for impeachment proceedings (which includes a LOT of people like me who want it done for a very different reason than you do) is not good enough.

Certainly not when his approval rating hasn't budged at all during the same time frame. And certainly not when Trump still holds too many of the keys to the White House.

There has never been any serious attempt at impeachment yet, JO. At the end of the day that's because after more than 3 years the worst thing the Democrats have on Trump is the Billy Bush tapes that came out before he was elected.




You really have no problem with him using so many gov resources and time trying to dig up dirt on his most likely 2020 opponent? You don't see the problems with him basically saying, "give me dirt on my opponent and I'll give you weapons?" I bet if Obama or Hillary had done this you'd be calling for a hanging.

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
You may be rite, 6string.

There are eerie senez in Blade in wich extreem violens happenz on a bizzy street, then secondz later the pedestrianz are bak to wokking wherever they are going az if nothing happened.

I am alredy feeling like the Demz are dropping the ball agen. The usual GoP congressmen and senatorz are doing the politics show serkit, furiously slapping together a cover story and their sheepl are gobbling up every bit az fast az they can.



I don't think they're dropping the ball. I think Nancy's playing a game with Trump.

Trump wants impeachment. He's all but begging for it. He's got nothing to lose and everything to gain by it.

I have zero faith that Nancy was ever going to go through with it. She's just letting it hang out there right now, conveniently right before they all went on a two week recess and nothing would be done, just to see what the polling numbers will come back at. And right now, a 58% approval for impeachment proceedings (which includes a LOT of people like me who want it done for a very different reason than you do) is not good enough.

Certainly not when his approval rating hasn't budged at all during the same time frame. And certainly not when Trump still holds too many of the keys to the White House.

There has never been any serious attempt at impeachment yet, JO. At the end of the day that's because after more than 3 years the worst thing the Democrats have on Trump is the Billy Bush tapes that came out before he was elected.




You really have no problem with him using so many gov resources and time trying to dig up dirt on his most likely 2020 opponent? You don't see the problems with him basically saying, "give me dirt on my opponent and I'll give you weapons?" I bet if Obama or Hillary had done this you'd be calling for a hanging.



That's not how the conversation went, for starters.

He also did not bring it up. He was replying honestly to them broaching the subject.

Also, you have to stretch it really far to prove that there was a quid pro quo ultimatum based off of the transcripts. Therein lies the problem here. Never Trumpers automatically see it. Everyone else doesn't see it. At the very least, it would never hold up in a court of law, and there will be zero chance an impeachment could go through based off of this.


On the reverse end, Joe Biden not only did everything you're accusing Trump of doing right now, but he did it in the name of nepotism and there is video proof of him bragging about doing so.


The fact that you can't see how bad a position this puts somebody like you in when trying to argue this point is comical. Anyone you argue this point with has vantage over the hypocrisy hole you're trying to argue from.

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:05 PM

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Today in Conservative Media: The Democrats Are Committing “Regicide”. The King of America could not be reached for comment. If the House Democrats are trying to send the King to the electric chair, they’re being pretty quiet about it.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/regicide-joseph-digenova-l
aura-ingraham-angle-fox-news-suicide-bombers.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 2:37 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's not how the conversation went, for starters.
He also did not bring it up. He was replying honestly to them broaching the subject.



Right. He was honestly telling him that if he wanted those Javelins he needed to do something for Trump though. Only a moron or a liar or a stubborn jackass would not see it.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Also, you have to stretch it really far to prove that there was a quid pro quo ultimatum based off of the transcripts. Therein lies the problem here. Never Trumpers automatically see it. Everyone else doesn't see it. At the very least, it would never hold up in a court of law, and there will be zero chance an impeachment could go through based off of this.



Obviously you haven't been keeping up on current events. There's more than just that conversation pointing directly to quid pro quo.

MORE IMPORTANTLY - who gives a sh*t about QPQ? Using the US government and asking other countries to dig up dirt on a rival is all that's needed, and that's right from Trump big fat mouth.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
On the reverse end, Joe Biden not only did everything you're accusing Trump of doing right now, but he did it in the name of nepotism...



Jarod and Ivanka isn't nepotism??

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
and there is video proof of him bragging about doing so.



Really? About asking Ukraine to investigate his upcoimg presidential rival? Love to see it.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The fact that you can't see how bad a position this puts somebody like you in when trying to argue this point is comical. Anyone you argue this point with has vantage over the hypocrisy hole you're trying to argue from.



I see why you run from these "discussions" or just make little insults and then bug out. You suck at them.

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 3:11 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I see why they call him shifty Schiff ...

quotes from various sources

"Have you heard from the whistleblower? Do you want to hear from the whistleblower? What protections could you provide to the whistleblower?" Schiff was asked during a Sept. 17 interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"We have not spoken directly with the whistleblower. We would like to," replied Schiff, adding "But I am sure the whistleblower has concerns that he has not been advised, as the law requires, by the inspector general or the director of national Intelligence just how he is supposed to communicate with Congress, and so the risk to the whistleblower is retaliation."

After it was revealed that the whistleblower approached Schiff's panel - which then directed him to a Democrat attorney, the Post gave Schiff four Pinocchios for his statement, which they called "Flat-out false."

"Schiff on 'Morning Joe' clearly made a statement that was false," said the fact-checker. "He now says he’s was answering the wrong question, but if that was the case, he should have quickly corrected the record. He compounded his falsehood by telling reporters a few days later that if not for the [inspector general's] office, the committee would not have known about the complaint. That again suggested there had been no prior communication."

"The explanation that Schiff was not sure it was the same whistleblower especially strains credulity," added WaPo. "Schiff earns Four Pinocchios."

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Hey. Look at that. Google still says that Trump is president.

Whooptie doo.

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Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:02 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

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Hey. Look at that. Google still says that Trump is president.

Whooptie doo.




Not surprised you had to use Google to find that out. lol

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Thursday, October 10, 2019 6:57 PM

THG


Giuliani associates arrested while trying to board international flight with one-way tickets, prosecutors say

Two associates of Rudy Giuliani made their initial appearance before a federal judge on Thursday, less than 24 hours after they were arrested on campaign finance violations while trying to board an international flight with one-way tickets at Dulles International Airport outside of Washington D.C.

Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman appeared in federal court in Alexandria, Va. to face a four-count indictment alleging that they, along with two other co-defendants, conspired to violate a ban on foreign donations and contributions in connection with federal and state elections.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/giuliani-associates-arrested-w
hile-trying-to-board-international-flight-with-one-way-tickets-prosecutors-say/ar-AAIALKV?ocid=spartanntp


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Thursday, October 10, 2019 7:29 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey. Look at that. Google still says that Trump is president.

Whooptie doo.




Not surprised you had to use Google to find that out. lol




Google still says that he's President today.

Go figure.

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Thursday, October 10, 2019 8:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Google still says that he's President today.

Go figure.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump still managed to do the unthinkable: inspire bipartisan opposition to his leadership, yesterday.

Condemnation rained down from both sides of the aisle over Trump’s decision to pull remaining American troops out of northern Syria, opening the door for Turkey to launch a military strike on ethnic Kurds that have been American allies in fighting ISIS. With American forces gone, Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan stepped through that door Wednesday, launching a military offensive across its border. By way of explanation, Trump defended his reasoning for pulling the plug on American support for the Kurds, saying: “They didn’t help us with Normandy.”

Here’s a fuller version of Trump’s comments at the White House Wednesday:

"The Kurds are fighting for their land, just so you understand. They’re fighting for their land and as someone wrote in a very, very powerful article today: They didn’t help us in the Second World War, they didn’t help us with Normandy, as an example… but they’re there to help us with their land. And that’s a different thing. And in addition that, we’ve spent tremendous amounts of money on helping the Kurds, in terms of ammunition, in terms of weapons, in terms of money, in terms of pay. With all of that being said, we like the Kurds."

Trump’s comments are muddled to the point of incoherence.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/what-trump-means-kurds-did
nt-help-us-with-normandy-explained.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:41 PM

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Makes sense to me.

Next.

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Friday, October 11, 2019 1:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Makes sense to me.

Next.

Next is Trump's tax returns. A federal appeals court held TODAY that Trump’s claims that he is immune to congressional oversight have no basis in law.

If the Supreme Court does not interfere with this decision, that means the House Oversight Committee will soon gain access to Trump’s financial records — including his tax forms.

The case is Trump v. Mazars USA
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1trAO6IWcy-WZlVQJTzZFUz1551RIwe7w/view
www.documentcloud.org/documents/6467307-Trump-v-Mazars.html

The decision is 134 pages long, and took 3 months to write, but this is the only paragraph that counts: "Having considered the weighty interests at stake in this case, we conclude that the subpoena issued by the Committee to Mazars is valid and enforceable. We affirm the district court’s judgment in favor of the Oversight Committee and against the Trump Plaintiffs.

So ordered."

I would expect Trump owes taxes equal to half his net worth. Nixon had to pay half after Congress audited his tax returns for just the years he was President. Read Nixon's story:
www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df80075b9dd/f
8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 11, 2019 2:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


You suspect a lot of things.

Other than the Billy Bush tapes, you've come up with nothing for three years.

But hey, maybe this is finally the I Told You So moment you've been praying for.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 11, 2019 5:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You suspect a lot of things.

Other than the Billy Bush tapes, you've come up with nothing for three years.

But hey, maybe this is finally the I Told You So moment you've been praying for.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You know for sure that Trump promised to make his tax returns available. You know for sure that Trump is fighting like crazy to keep those returns a secret, now that somebody will do a real audit. You know Trump cheated on taxes because his sister, who is was a Federal judge, cheated on her taxes in the same business deal run by Trump. Judge Trump had to resign over her tax cheating.
www.apnews.com/872fc6adeaca4bd8a2875b23c3f3782a

There is even an accounting school illustration of the many ways people cheat on their taxes. Trump is used as an example of a dozen different cheating schemes.
www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Hey. Look at that. Google still says that Trump is president.

Whooptie doo.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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