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Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:39 AM

JO753

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It seemz to me that wen Trump gets the boot, therez a good chans Pence will go down with him.

Its not very likely that he coud hav been kept so out uv the loop that he coud claim not to know anything about the Russian connectionz, and if he duz, he'z admitting to an unforgivable level uv neglijens and stupidity.

Not that neglijens and stupidity are bad in the GoP, but they will be struggling to cut their lossez at this point, so everybody associated with the Trump administration iz gangrene.

I think Ryan will turn out to be seen az incompetent and fail to be their nominee in 2020.

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Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:09 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


“I’m an eternal optimist. Every Republican senator has an opportunity to grow a spine and stand up for truth and justice and the rule of law. My other hope is that if Trump has to choose between being president and being a billionaire, I think he may just resign.” - Daniel Dennett

www.theguardian.com/science/2017/feb/12/daniel-dennett-politics-bacter
ia-bach-back-dawkins-trump-interview


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:22 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


You're both quislings.



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:47 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And another one.



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:14 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
It seemz to me that wen Trump gets the boot, therez a good chans Pence will go down with him.

Its not very likely that he coud hav been kept so out uv the loop that he coud claim not to know anything about the Russian connectionz, and if he duz, he'z admitting to an unforgivable level uv neglijens and stupidity.

Not that neglijens and stupidity are bad in the GoP, but they will be struggling to cut their lossez at this point, so everybody associated with the Trump administration iz gangrene.

I think Ryan will turn out to be seen az incompetent and fail to be their nominee in 2020.



Makes sense. Let's hope if it is to happen it happens sooner rather than later.

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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:16 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You're both quislings.




Quislings; a traitor who collaborates with an enemy force occupying their country.

This is coming from our resident Russian troll. Now that's funny.

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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:22 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And another one.




Hey quisling. I see you're all for investigating Hillary and it doesn't mater for what, but when it comes to Trump and the Russians the rest of us are traitors because we what to know what's going on.

You are nothing more than a troll. And that's you new permanent name. SIG THE TROLL.




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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:28 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I'm all for investigation. Lets rip the bandages off. If someone is going to leak the fact of (secretly-recorded) conversations FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES, then let's all have the complete transcript, not just insinuations and lies cooked up by the CIA.

I'd be willing to bet that transcripts would show that Flynn did nothing illegal, or even improper.

But first, you have YET to define the interests of the United States. Why is this such a problem for you? Are you afraid that YOUR motivations wouldn't stand scrutiny? Do you have some deep-seated motives we should know about? Like, being a paid troll?

Because, as far as I can tell, you're just a deep-state troll, and a liar. You lie about everything.

Fucking tool.



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:54 PM

THGRRI


Dear SIG THE TROLL. Our law enforcement and intelligence agencies are currently investigating the matter. Let's hope we have more leaks, err, information soon.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm all for investigation. Lets rip the bandages off. If someone is going to leak the fact of (secretly-recorded) conversations FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES, then let's all have the complete transcript, not just insinuations and lies cooked up by the CIA.

I'd be willing to bet that transcripts would show that Flynn did nothing illegal, or even improper.

But first, you have YET to define the interests of the United States. Why is this such a problem for you? Are you afraid that YOUR motivations wouldn't stand scrutiny? Do you have some deep-seated motives we should know about? Like, being a paid troll?

Because, as far as I can tell, you're just a deep-state troll, and a liar. You lie about everything.

Fucking tool.




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Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Dear SIG THE TROLL. Our law enforcement and intelligence agencies are currently investigating the matter themselves


Fixed it for you.


Just OOC THUGR, since you constantly ask me why I'm not on your anti-Russian bandwagon and insinuate that's some ultimate test of patriotism, I'm going to ask you about your notable silence, which is your inability to tell us how you're FOR America. I mean, I have asked you probably a couple-dozen times by now to tell us what you think America's interests are. But it's like the words burn your fingers or something, because you have yet to describe what you think those are.

What's the matter?

You're not for America?



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:11 PM

THGRRI


First of all Troll. Once again you changed anothers' post. Second, the proof of my patriotism stands in stark contrast to your America bashing. Something I call you on daily.

You have zero chance of convincing the honest brokers on this site of anything else.



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Dear SIG THE TROLL. Our law enforcement and intelligence agencies are currently investigating the matter themselves


Fixed it for you.


Just OOC THUGR, since you constantly ask me why I'm not on your anti-Russian bandwagon and insinuate that's some ultimate test of patriotism, I'm going to ask you about your notable silence, which is your inability to tell us how you're FOR America. I mean, I have asked you probably a couple-dozen times by now to tell us what you think America's interests are. But it's like the words burn your fingers or something, because you have yet to describe what you think those are.

What's the matter?

You're not for America?



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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First of all Troll. Once again your changed anothers' post.
I hope you realize the the more you whine about that, the more and more ridiculous you look. But please, feel free ...

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Second, the proof my patriotism blind Russohpbia stands in stark contrast to your [concern for] America bashing.


You spend MORE TIME bitching about Russia than talking about the USA. It looks to me like you're more concerned about Russia. I, on the other hand, am desperately concerned about average Americans, because I happen to be one. I criticize corrupt politicians and traitorous spies, not "America".

What, do you think that "America" consists of globalist oligarchs and their apparatchiks? apparently so!

YOU have yet to tell us how you're FOR America. I think you're just a deep-state troll.




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Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:15 PM

THGRRI


No, the more and more dishonest you look.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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First of all Troll. Once again your changed anothers' post.
I hope you realize the the more you whine about that, the more and more ridiculous you look. But please, feel free ...





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Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

First of all Troll. Once again your changed anothers' post.
I hope you realize the the more you whine about that, the more and more ridiculous you look. But please, feel free ...

Quote:

Second, the proof my patriotism blind Russohpbia stands in stark contrast to your [concern for] America bashing.


You spend MORE TIME bitching about Russia than talking about the USA. It looks to me like you're more concerned about Russia. I, on the other hand, am desperately concerned about average Americans, because I happen to be one. I criticize corrupt politicians and traitorous spies, not "America".

What, do you think that "America" consists of globalist oligarchs and their apparatchiks? apparently so!

YOU have yet to tell us how you're FOR America. I think you're just a deep-state troll.


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Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Yeah, right. How's that going finding an English speaking nanny? You're a true blue 1% who wants other people to think they're a regular person, all while they whine on social media and watch the help clean their million dollar home.
Wow, are you off the mark! But say, GSTRING, aside from you posting trollish snark, do you have anything ON TOPIC to say?

Yeah, I thought not.



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 4:41 PM

JO753

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Originally posted by second:
“I’m an eternal optimist. Every Republican senator has an opportunity to grow a spine and stand up for truth and justice and the rule of law. My other hope is that if Trump has to choose between being president and being a billionaire, I think he may just resign.” - Daniel Dennett



Therez a systemic flaw that enforsez cowardis - 'the base' will vote out anybody who duznt toe the party line, no matter how rediculous it iz. Add to this the 2 year term for Congressmen and they cant risk doing anything kuz the voterz mite actually be able to remembr it even if a competitor duznt remind them.

Dumping Trump haz to be completely unavoidable befor the GoPs will act. Even then, the idiots who voted for him will retaliate in the next election, so the GoPs are screwed.

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Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:07 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm all for investigation. Lets rip the bandages off. If someone is going to leak the fact of (secretly-recorded) conversations FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES, then let's all have the complete transcript, not just insinuations and lies cooked up by the CIA.

I'd be willing to bet that transcripts would show that Flynn did nothing illegal, or even improper.

But first, you have YET to define the interests of the United States. Why is this such a problem for you? Are you afraid that YOUR motivations wouldn't stand scrutiny? Do you have some deep-seated motives we should know about? Like, being a paid troll?

Because, as far as I can tell, you're just a deep-state troll, and a liar. You lie about everything.

Fucking tool.

Trump can declassify all the transcripts of conversations between Russians and Trump's staff. That means it is up to TRUMP to clarify this. It is also up to TRUMP to punish the CIA. The CIA works for the White House and Trump can punish them. But there is a problem:

Donald Trump’s explanation for why he fired Michael Flynn makes no sense.

Trump is the void at the heart of the scandal.

Donald Trump still doesn’t seem to know exactly why he fired his national security adviser.

At his press conference, President Trump was asked essentially a two-part question about Flynn. First: “Did you direct Mike Flynn to discuss sanctions with the Russian ambassador?” And second: “Would you have fired him if this information hadn’t leaked out?”

Trump’s answer was very odd:

No, I fired him because of what he said to Mike Pence. He was doing his job and his counterparts, so it certainly would have been okay with me if he did it. I would have directed him to do it if I thought he wasn’t doing it. I didn’t direct him, but I would’ve directed him because that’s his job. And it came out that way, and, in all fairness, I watched Dr. Charles Krauthammer the other night saying he was doing his job, and I agreed with him. And since then, I’ve watched many other people say that. I didn’t direct him, but I would’ve directed him if he didn’t do it.

So according to Trump:

1. Trump did not direct Flynn to call Ambassador Sergey Kislyak and talk about sanctions, so there is no wrongdoing on Trump’s part.

2. But there was also nothing wrong with Flynn’s decision to call Kislyak and talk about sanctions, so there is no wrongdoing on Flynn’s part.

3. Flynn got fired not due to underlying misconduct, but because he told Vice President Pence he hadn’t discussed sanctions with Kislyak.

There are a bunch of different puzzling aspects to this.

First among them is the timing. Flynn wasn’t fired when Trump was told that Flynn had lied to Pence. Nor was Flynn fired when Pence found out that Flynn had lied to Pence. Rather, Flynn was fired a few hours after the Washington Post told the public that Trump had been told weeks earlier that Flynn had lied to Pence.

The second is the question of why Flynn would have misled Pence about this if there was nothing wrong with what he did. Normally people don’t lie to their colleagues for no reason.

Last but by no means least: If, as Trump says, he would have directed Flynn to discuss sanctions with Kislyak, why was it that the administration spent weeks insisting that there had been no such discussion? Trump’s position seems to be that his team believed Flynn had been doing the wrong thing (not talking to Kislyak about sanctions) but then it turned out that in fact Flynn had done the right thing (talking to Kislyak about sanctions), but the revelation that Flynn had done the right thing caused him to be fired because Flynn had falsely told them he’d done the wrong thing.

That’s crazy. Especially in an administration that is not exactly known for placing a high premium on strict factual accuracy, that can’t possibly be the reason Flynn was cashiered.

www.vox.com/2017/2/16/14640956/trump-press-conference-flynn-fired

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:43 PM

THGRRI


I spend my time highlighting the lies, fake news sources and bullshit you SIG THE TROLL try spreading.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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First of all Troll. Once again your changed anothers' post.
I hope you realize the the more you whine about that, the more and more ridiculous you look. But please, feel free ...

Quote:

Second, the proof my patriotism blind Russohpbia stands in stark contrast to your [concern for] America bashing.


You spend MORE TIME bitching about Russia than talking about the USA. It looks to me like you're more concerned about Russia. I, on the other hand, am desperately concerned about average Americans, because I happen to be one. I criticize corrupt politicians and traitorous spies, not "America".

What, do you think that "America" consists of globalist oligarchs and their apparatchiks? apparently so!

YOU have yet to tell us how you're FOR America. I think you're just a deep-state troll.




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Saturday, February 18, 2017 4:18 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Is this merely trolling, or can one post be wrong on so many counts, all of them?

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Originally posted by JO753:
It seemz to me that wen Trump gets the boot,


What evidence is there that Trump will get the boot? He has not done anything Unconstitutional (unlike the long list Obama accumulated), or illegal (unlike Bobo's & Hilliary's long lists), or Treasonous (unlike Bobo's & Hilliary's long lists), or detrimental to America (unlike almost everything Bobo and Hilliary did) so far.
As opposed to your Fake News claims, you should try intake of real news.
Here you are 0-1.
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therez a good chans Pence will go down with him.


How so? Current evidence indicates Trump is keeping Pence out-of-the-loop, maintaining Credible Deniability and compartmentalization.
You are 0-2.
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Its not very likely that he coud hav been kept so out uv the loop that he coud claim not to know anything about the Russian connectionz, and if he duz, he'z admitting to an unforgivable level uv neglijens and stupidity.


Here you support my point above, thereby disproving your own point.
The Naval Observatory and 1600 Pennsylvania are not next-door neighbors.
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Not that neglijens and stupidity are bad in the GoP,


Here you are further confusing the GOP with the infestation of Libtards that is the Dems, spreading negligence and stupidity like a plague amid everybody who has had the Facts Vaccine.
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but they will be struggling to cut their lossez at this point,


GOP losses like the 2014 (midterms) and 2016 Elections will not be much of a "struggle" there, genius.
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so everybody associated with the Trump administration iz gangrene.


Although you might have an inadvertent point here with Establishment types among the Trumpsters being more diseased than they already are, the fact that you don't even understand that due to your point of view, and that most associates of the Trump Administration will become stratospheric means that you are wrong twice on the same point!
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I think Ryan will turn out to be seen az incompetent


The most competent Elected Official likely in D.C. would only be "seen" by Libtards as incompetent through delusional surrealistic lenses, but the reasonable people would still see him in reality.
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and fail to be their nominee in 2020.


America could only be so lucky for him to be the Candidate in 2020 - so you would be wrong again.
0-9.

However, he is unlikely to be the candidate because Trump has already announced he will run - so, although you might think that you were correct about this, it was only due to your being wrong about everything else upon which this view was built on. So you are still wrong.
0-10.

Gee Whiz. You may have outdone yourself this time.

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Sunday, February 19, 2017 5:02 PM

JO753

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And that wuz JSF with View From an Alternate Reality.

Tune in next week for another exciting episode!

Back to reality:

Trump, Flynn, Priebus, Conway, Pence, Spicer, Miller hav all repeatedly denied any contact with Russian operativez.

Russian connectionz hav been showing up since 2015.

Its undeniable common nolej that Putin had direct involvement in interfering with the election in Trump's favor.

There are at least 3 Trump top campane and cabinet memberz with clear and strong Russian connectionz, all uv whom met with Putin.

Trump fired Flynn only after he lerned that the story had leaked, then went on to say 'I woud hav directed him to do it', apparently not realizing he iz talking about an act uv treazon.

Trump never missez an oportunity to speak favorably uv Putin.

So the Q iz how dum do you haf to be to think therez nothing going on here?

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Monday, February 20, 2017 12:01 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Its undeniable common nolej that Putin had direct involvement in interfering with the election in Trump's favor.
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Really? Enlighten me J0. I don't watch the Clinton News Network.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 20, 2017 1:27 AM

JO753

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I didnt think the eko chamber wuz that well insulted!

Here, take your pick from 470,000 rezults for 'putin interfered with the election':
https://www.google.com/search?q=putin+interfered+with+the+election&
;rlz=1CAACAC_enUS730US730&oq=putin+interfered+with+the+election&aqs=chrome..69i57.17715j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


From The Hill:

"Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a widespread influence campaign intended to help elect Donald Trump, the intelligence community said in a declassified report released Friday afternoon.

“Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the U.S. democratic process, denigrate Secretary [Hillary] Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump,” the report reads.

“We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him.”

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Monday, February 20, 2017 1:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


That sounds like a bunch of hearsay to me.



It's not as if Hillary wasn't easy to discredit. Let me count the million and one ways she was unfit to be president.

She was probably the only Democratic candidate that Trump could have won against. Russia doesn't have that big an influence on Americans. If they did play a part in Trump winning, they were only able to do so because of how corrupt and evil the Clintons are.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 20, 2017 2:06 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I agree. The dems didn't shoot themselves in the foot by running Hillary, they shot themselves in the head.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, February 20, 2017 2:21 PM

JO753

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Wenevr I hear rite wingerz tok about Ryan, they refer to him az an intellectual uv sum sort. He looks the part, but thats about it.

At best, I'd credit him for being smarter than the averaj GoP elected official, wich iz about the same az claiming to be able to beat a squirrel at checkerz.

The fact that he haz not sed a word agenst Trump this yir provez he'z a chowderhed.

Here'z more evidens that Trump iz desperate to hide hiz Russian connectionz from the NYT:

"Mr. Trump has sought to distance himself from Mr. Sater in recent years. If Mr. Sater “were sitting in the room right now,” Mr. Trump said in a 2013 deposition, “I really wouldn’t know what he looked like.”

But Mr. Sater worked on real estate development deals with the Trump Organization on and off for at least a decade, even after his role in the stock manipulation scheme came to light.

Mr. Sater, who was born in the Soviet Union and grew up in New York, served as an executive at a firm called Bayrock Group, two floors below the Trump Organization in Trump Tower, and was later a senior adviser to Mr. Trump."

Therez a purjury charje rite there!!!!!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-ru
ssia.html?emc=edit_th_20170220&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=67734599


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Monday, February 20, 2017 7:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Its undeniable common nolej that Putin had direct involvement in interfering with the election in Trump's favor.


Really? Enlighten me J0. I don't watch the Clinton News Network.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



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Originally posted by JO753:
I didnt think the eko chamber wuz that well insulted!

Here, take your pick from 470,000 rezults for 'putin interfered with the election':
https://www.google.com/search?q=putin+interfered+with+the+election&
;rlz=1CAACAC_enUS730US730&oq=putin+interfered+with+the+election&aqs=chrome..69i57.17715j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8




I had thought SSJ was intrerested in Real News, not your Fake News.
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From The Hill:

"Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered a widespread influence campaign blah blah blah...

“Russia’s goals ...blah blah blah.

“We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired



Ordered?
Goals?
Aspired?

Any these would equate to "direct involvement in interfering" how?
Like my "direct involvement" in Jessica Alba's pregnancy is proven by my desiring it so?

I had heard that some hacking was accredited to Russians.

But some wikileaks (or similar) revelations were exposing of Dems criminal activity. This seemed like, if hacks done on both parties had occurred, then perhaps the only illegal activities were found on the side of the always reliably criminal Dems. Hence, an apparently lopsided release.

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Monday, February 20, 2017 9:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You'll never hear me saying anything nice about Ryan... especially that he's an intellectual. lol

Then again, I'm not a right winger. The right wingers in general just annoy me a whole lot less than the left wingers do.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 20, 2017 10:00 PM

DREAMTROVE


Troll country was never like this!

Seriously, if Russians hacked the election, and were able to do so, this country is so screwed it's no longer a country. Why stop at president? Why not replace all the govt offices in America. And federal regulators. And state, city, take over the SEC and the NYSE, the NASDAQ. Hack the FED. Have at it Russia. Only thing that might back up such an idea was how when our govt. said "Hackers are Terrrorists" and Russia said "Hackers are Heroes," they all moved to Russia. Oh well. This is going to be fun.

But seriously, why sit around hitting each other over the head with digital clubs?

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Monday, February 20, 2017 10:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
But seriously, why sit around hitting each other over the head with digital clubs?



Some here have it in their mind that they are the Keepers of the Truth and they are protectors of the RWED. (I'm not making this up... This was an actual conversation in here just a few weeks ago)

Watch that Monty Python clip that G posted the other day.

We're all here for the digital bruises.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 20, 2017 10:32 PM

DREAMTROVE


Second,

I think you and Sig are on the same page here.

Trump fired Flynn because the CIA pressured him, however it could, because they don't want peace with Russia, they want to continue the regime change game.

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Monday, February 20, 2017 10:40 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Some here have it in their mind that they are the Keepers of the Truth and they are protectors of the RWED. (I'm not making this up... This was an actual conversation in here just a few weeks ago)

Watch that Monty Python clip that G posted the other day.

We're all here for the digital bruises.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



I did watch it. Seen it before of course.

But really? That would be why I fled. Okay, Niki2 had a lot to do with it. But the very trollish nature had begun to affect my real world conversations. Then there was that bit where my sister died, not as the result of snarky comments, though there were those, it was cancer. And then there was the attacks that came afterward, so I left. I know CTS left also, and cannot be brought back. Frem I see has disappeared, that's a surprise. Geezer? has anyone seen him? I know Chrisisall is still around but seldom in RWED. And someone I haven't yet identified, on FB.

RWED is actually keeper of the true trolling. It always would surprise me how insightful and freindly Auraptor is everywhere else.

But now the world has emulated this, and outdone us. The polarization is actually an extreme absurdity. RWED is just a group of people who can't admit that they already agree.

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Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:59 AM

DREAMTROVE


There used to be more foreigners, and more people. Ideally, we'd be well situated if Firefly were reinstated, but actually this comes up 16th on a search for firefly, and it's an extinct TV show from days of yore.

I learned a lot here too, until the Obama years when it devolved into shouting down the people who didn't supporter him. It was a group of like three people, or possibly sockpuppets, but they were on every thread. I know a lot of people left then.

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Tuesday, February 21, 2017 9:54 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Second,

I think you and Sig are on the same page here.

Trump fired Flynn because the CIA pressured him, however it could, because they don't want peace with Russia, they want to continue the regime change game.



Why not just go with the truth. Flynn had inappropriate contact with Russia about the sanctions on the day Obama added to them, then lied to the Vice President and the rest of us about it.

He got caught. Your logic is to blame those who caught him. And it wasn't the CIA who exposed him, It was the FBI and Justice Department, so why claim that?

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Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You're both quislings.




Quislings; a traitor who collaborates with an enemy force occupying their country.

This is coming from our resident Russian troll. Now that's funny.

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It really is!

Frankly, Id apply the term to anyone who cooperates with Trump and his little troupe of fascist profiteers.

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Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Some here have it in their mind that they are the Keepers of the Truth and they are protectors of the RWED. (I'm not making this up... This was an actual conversation in here just a few weeks ago)

Watch that Monty Python clip that G posted the other day.

We're all here for the digital bruises.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



I did watch it. Seen it before of course.

But really? That would be why I fled. Okay, Niki2 had a lot to do with it. But the very trollish nature had begun to affect my real world conversations. Then there was that bit where my sister died, not as the result of snarky comments, though there were those, it was cancer. And then there was the attacks that came afterward, so I left. I know CTS left also, and cannot be brought back. Frem I see has disappeared, that's a surprise. Geezer? has anyone seen him? I know Chrisisall is still around but seldom in RWED. And someone I haven't yet identified, on FB.

RWED is actually keeper of the true trolling. It always would surprise me how insightful and freindly Auraptor is everywhere else.

But now the world has emulated this, and outdone us. The polarization is actually an extreme absurdity. RWED is just a group of people who can't admit that they already agree.



Ah... Another fan of Niki2. A real piece of work, that one. ;)

You bring up a lot of names I miss having in here. We did hear from Frem about 3 months ago. I think he just decided that family was more important. I haven't seen a post from Geezer in a really long time.

I actually mentioned a lot of what you just said in that conversation. I said that I witnessed the change in people the longer they hung out in the RWED and that overall it wasn't a very good way of spending your time. I also mentioned that though I was sure the show being so old had something to do with it, I think the constant attacking with each other pushed a lot of people out.

It's not just the RWED though. It's just social media in general. People who know and even love each other talk to each other in ways they'd never talk to each other in real life on facebook and twitter. My brother was just telling me last night how his best friend and his friends father are no longer talking after arguments they had about the election. But then he went on to tell me about arguments he was having with old high school friends currently and all I could do was tell him that he's got to get off facebook before those relations implode.

The world is emulating the RWED now, for sure. I blame the internet entirely for that. People just don't know how to behave themselves. It's one thing to blow up on some random relatively anonymous person in a forum like the RWED, but when people are typing in front of a screen they tend to forget that the person they're yelling at or insulting is actually an important part of their life and things are said that they cannot take back.


Sorry to hear about your Sister. I've had my share of cancer related deaths of late myself. :(


I hope you hang around a bit. The RWED hasn't really changed much since you left, except for there are less of us here now. It's been cool seeing you and Byte and a few other old faces pop in here and then. Maybe we can lower the toxicity levels just enough that some more might pop up?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Frankly, Id apply the term to anyone who cooperates with Trump and his little troupe of fascist profiteers.

I can see reaver shit-hit-the fan is a great supporter of democratic elections! (No wonder it's such a Nazi troll.)




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Tuesday, February 21, 2017 8:02 PM

JO753

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Tuesday, February 21, 2017 8:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Got that story reported by anybody besides Rachel?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 21, 2017 9:46 PM

DREAMTROVE


Hello,

Calm down, 1kiki, reaverfan, friends. This can all be resolved in a civilized manner. I'm sure you can both make predictions about what will happen and then we will see as they start to come to pass, what will happen. What will not come to pass at this juncture is President Paul Ryan.

--Haunting the forum is all


Note to Self:
“Don't put things in your signature which you'll later regret. The forum forgives but does not forget.” - No one in particular.

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Thursday, March 2, 2017 4:47 AM

JO753

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Iz it just me or iz Ryan looking more & more like Alfred E. Newman?

https://www.google.com/search?q=alfred+e+neuman&safe=off&rlz=1
CAACAC_enUS730US730&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiW4qa8xLfSAhVC04MKHf3lCCwQ_AUICCgB&biw=1366&bih=631


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Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:45 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?



And your party is the ? party.

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Thursday, March 2, 2017 11:47 AM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Iz it just me or iz Ryan looking more & more like Alfred E. Newman?




Yeah shit, that's way to funny.

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Thursday, March 2, 2017 5:48 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


"Wut? Me worry?" will be Ryanz perfect motto wen Putin iz sitting in the oval offis addressing The Annexed United States of The Russian Federation

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Thursday, March 2, 2017 7:02 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
"Wut? Me worry?" will be Ryanz perfect motto wen Putin iz sitting in the oval offis addressing The Annexed United States of The Russian Federation

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This will be what Ryan tries to do when that happens, as he assures America Trump has no Russian ties.



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Thursday, March 2, 2017 7:09 PM

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Thursday, March 2, 2017 7:32 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Iz it just me or iz Ryan looking more & more like Alfred E. Newman?

https://www.google.com/search?q=alfred+e+neuman&safe=off&rlz=1
CAACAC_enUS730US730&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiW4qa8xLfSAhVC04MKHf3lCCwQ_AUICCgB&biw=1366&bih=631


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It's just you. Try on better glasses.

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Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:18 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

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Yep. A couple of privileged dicks there. Funny and probably true.

The question is, how do you get minorities to look at the rest of us white folk barely hanging on and not see That?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 2, 2017 9:35 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
]

Yep. A couple of privileged dicks there. Funny and probably true.

The question is, how do you get minorities to look at the rest of us white folk barely hanging on and not see That?

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Now that's a really good question. We can start by explaining how come white people have so much cargo. I saw the documentary talked about below in quotes while I was at school. So I knew to look for it now.

We need to stop preaching that only White people have cargo ( industrialized goods and power ), and that they won't share it. That they even block the rest from getting it. That's the message of the democrats. The message of the republicans is, we worked for it and you didn't. Both are bullshit. Most have no idea that geography played a major role in who was able gain cargo and why. Of course it's more complicated then that but location played a major role. You should see if you can't find the documentary.

We must find a way forward from there. Cultural privilege as the topic instead of White privilege allows the discussion to continue forward.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?223422-Why-Do-Your-Peopl
e-Have-So-Much-Cargo-and-We-Have-So-Little


"Why Do Your People Have So Much Cargo, and We Have So Little?

I was watching an interesting documentary called 'Guns, Germs and Steel' on National Geographic channel last night and I was intrigued by its message.
Basically, it's the question of inequality: why did some cultures and peoples develop mass advanced civilization and others remained in the hunter-gatherer phase in human societal evolution?

Professor Jared Diamond commented that he was asked by a native papau new guinean 'why do your people have so much cargo and we so little?" with 'cargo' being the native term of industrialized goods and power from when the natives used to consider cargo boxes containing modern goods as being divine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult

Professor Diamond's opinion on why 'we' have so much 'cargo'/power is basically because of the luck of being near the right agriculture crops (we had wheat and grain and the papua new guineans had to make do with sago, with wheat and grain being more easily stored for a length of time) and had access to easily domesticated livestock eg horses, cows:"

Jack I found the documentary on you tube. I have a link but it's an hour long so I don't want to post it here. Just type in Guns, Germs and Steel.



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Friday, June 9, 2017 3:21 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Ryan continuez to supply case evidens that he iz an idiot.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/08/ryan-defends-trump-on-comey-t
he-presidents-new-at-this-239298


There he iz trying to defend Trump, saying 'he'z new to this' wen Trump wuz clearly aware that asking Comey to drop the Flynn investigation iz an impeachable offens.

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