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Monday, March 20, 2017 3:54 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, the point about stealing the laptop: Of course, all intelligence agencies have access to Secret Service information. But now that that information has been let loose "into the wild" then ANYone can be accused of assassinating Trump or killing his family members. It creates "plausible deniability" which both Trump and his advisors would recognize. Even the theft itself is plausibly deniable.

What's interesting is the role of the Secret Service officer herself from whom the laptop was stolen. Either it was incredible carelessness on her part: leaving the car unlocked in her driveway with the laptop inside - in which case she becomes the "fall guy", or gal - or the locked car was expertly hacked. I doubt we'll ever read the details.



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THUGR IS A DEEP-STATE TROLL

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Monday, March 20, 2017 4:06 PM

THGRRI

May the Good Lord take a liking to you... but not too soon!


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, the point about stealing the laptop: Of course, all intelligence agencies have access to Secret Service information. But now that that information has been let loose "into the wild" then ANYone can be accused of assassinating Trump or killing his family members. It creates "plausible deniability"



Oh shit, SIG is trying to plant the seed that the CIA stole the laptop, and is now free to kill Trump.

You truly are the dullest apple on the tree.

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Monday, March 20, 2017 4:30 PM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, the point about stealing the laptop: Of course, all intelligence agencies have access to Secret Service information. But now that that information has been let loose "into the wild" then ANYone can be accused of assassinating Trump or killing his family members. It creates "plausible deniability"



Oh shit, SIG is trying to plant the seed that the CIA stole the laptop, and is not free to kill Trump.

You truly are the dullest apple on the tree.

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SIG says I'm a deep state troll.oh me, oh my.




Right - was there any "Deep State" talk during the election? Nope! Now that they are closing in on Trump, they are in reverse gear trying to smear the US intelligence community. Sig is so transparent. Sadly, she realizes that such blatant hypocrisy carries very little downside on this board.

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Monday, March 20, 2017 4:38 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The leak of the existence of a "transcript" of Flynn talking with Russian Ambassador was intended to smear Flynn specifically and the Trump administration generally with BUT RUSSIA!

The Senate committee which is looking into this is turning the tables on those deep-state actors who released this information, and is investigating their illegal activities as well.



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Monday, March 20, 2017 4:39 PM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, the point about stealing the laptop: Of course, all intelligence agencies have access to Secret Service information. But now that that information has been let loose "into the wild" then ANYone can be accused of assassinating Trump or killing his family members. It creates "plausible deniability"



Oh shit, SIG is trying to plant the seed that the CIA stole the laptop, and is not free to kill Trump.

You truly are the dullest apple on the tree.

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SIG says I'm a deep state troll.oh me, oh my.




Right - was there any "Deep State" talk during the election? Nope! Now that they are closing in on Trump, they are in reverse gear trying to smear the US intelligence community. Sig is so transparent. Sadly, she realizes that such blatant hypocrisy carries very little downside on this board.



Yep G... Hey, I had a type O and you quoted G. I meant now free, not, not free.

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Monday, March 20, 2017 5:47 PM

SIGNYM

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Right - was there any "Deep State" talk during the election? Nope!


YEP! There was!

I have been posting for quite some time now that some of Hillary's State Department activities- upending Ukraine and destroying Libya and the false flag chemical attack in Ghouta - came as a surprise to Obama. That there was CIA-aided gun-running through Benghazi that Obama knew nothing about. That there is a war going on between different intelligence agencies ... as exemplified by the letter of protest from 50 DIA analysts about having their analyses of the Syria strategy turned into "happy news", only to be answered by a letter of protest from 50 State Department (i.e. CIA) employees who wanted a more "kinetic" approach to Syria.

I have pointed out, time and time again, that the USA is no longer a democracy, but that in matters of importance where the oligarchs and the people part ways, the oligarchs get their way. And have cited the paper many times as evidence.

I have even mentioned CHRISISALL's comment more than once- which has stuck with me for years - that the reason why Obama was such a foreign-policy weenie was because he got a threat written on a napkin early on ... something about "think of your family".

WE have been talking about the deep state for years. I guess you're just late to the party.

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Now that they are closing in on Trump
WITH WHAT? Either there is proof, from (illegal) surveillance or there's just bullshit. MANY people ... even Hillary's former ally and presumed choice to head the CIA, Mike Morell, said there's no "there" there.

So what's your point? More BUT RUSSIA! ? Good grief!


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Monday, March 20, 2017 8:17 PM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Right - was there any "Deep State" talk during the election? Nope!


YEP! There was!

I have been posting for quite some time now that some of Hillary's State Department activities- upending Ukraine and destroying Libya and the false flag chemical attack in Ghouta - came as a surprise to Obama. That there was CIA-aided gun-running through Benghazi that Obama knew nothing about. That there is a war going on between different intelligence agencies ... as exemplified by the letter of protest from 50 DIA analysts about having their analyses of the Syria strategy turned into "happy news", only to be answered by a letter of protest from 50 State Department (i.e. CIA) employees who wanted a more "kinetic" approach to Syria.

I have pointed out, time and time again, that the USA is no longer a democracy, but that in matters of importance where the oligarchs and the people part ways, the oligarchs get their way. And have cited the paper many times as evidence.

I have even mentioned CHRISISALL's comment more than once- which has stuck with me for years - that the reason why Obama was such a foreign-policy weenie was because he got a threat written on a napkin early on ... something about "think of your family".

WE have been talking about the deep state for years. I guess you're just late to the party.

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Now that they are closing in on Trump
WITH WHAT? Either there is proof, from (illegal) surveillance or there's just bullshit. MANY people ... even Hillary's former ally and presumed choice to head the CIA, Mike Morell, said there's no "there" there.

So what's your point? More BUT RUSSIA! ? Good grief!


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Nope! When Comey revealed the Weiner emails (utter nothing) were you raising deep state objections? NOPE

Is Morrel currently employed with high security clearance? Then how would he know? Are you happier that Morrel called your boy Putin's little puppet?

I don't care if they can't put Trump & Putin in a room together chatting about how to screw America. I'm confident Trump will shoot himself in the foot any day now.

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Monday, March 20, 2017 8:22 PM

SIGNYM

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Nope! When Comey revealed the Weiner emails (utter nothing) were you raising deep state objections? NOPE - GSTRING
Oh, so I didn't mention it that one time.

Big fucking deal.

I DID discuss the FBI potentially versus the CIA. The "grunts" versus the politicos. YOU may have plugged your ears and chanted Nyah nyah nyah I can't hear you but it WAS discussed.

There is no doubt that WE have been talking about the deep state- by whatever name you care to call it- for years.

The petrodollar reason to invade Iraq and Libya. The pipelinestan reason to destroy Syria.

Good lord, son, what the hell are you smoking?

Yanno what?

I don't care. Go take your happy-pills, smoke whatever you want, drink whatever you want, bury yourself in FB, jack off in a corner, jump into your bubble ... do whatever it is that you do to remain a brainless lump of self-comforting human flesh.



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Monday, March 20, 2017 9:19 PM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Nope! When Comey revealed the Weiner emails (utter nothing) were you raising deep state objections? NOPE - GSTRING
Oh, so I didn't mention it that one time.

Big fucking deal.

I DID discuss the FBI potentially versus the CIA. The "grunts" versus the politicos. YOU may have plugged your ears and chanted Nyah nyah nyah I can't hear you but it WAS discussed.

There is no doubt that WE have been talking about the deep state- by whatever name you care to call it- for years.

The petrodollar reason to invade Iraq and Libya. The pipelinestan reason to destroy Syria.

Good lord, son, what the hell are you smoking?

Yanno what?

I don't care. Go take your happy-pills, smoke whatever you want, drink whatever you want, bury yourself in FB, jack off in a corner, jump into your bubble ... do whatever it is that you do to remain a brainless lump of self-comforting human flesh.




Whaaaaaa.... Baby troll needs a nappy!

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Monday, March 20, 2017 9:26 PM

1KIKI


Troll much? Like all the time.




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Monday, March 20, 2017 9:30 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Whaaaaaa.... Baby troll needs a nappy!
I can't help but notice that you didn't challenge one single fact.

Not one.

That pretty much puts you in the realm of "brain-dead", a real internet zombie.

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BWAINS!!!! I WANT BWAINS!!!- G







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Monday, March 20, 2017 9:33 PM

1KIKI


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
I DID discuss the FBI potentially versus the CIA. The "grunts" versus the politicos. YOU may have plugged your ears and chanted Nyah nyah nyah I can't hear you but it WAS discussed.
There is no doubt that WE have been talking about the deep state- by whatever name you care to call it- for years.
The petrodollar reason to invade Iraq and Libya. The pipelinestan reason to destroy Syria.

Quote:

Originally posted by GSTRING:
Whaaaaaa.... Baby troll needs a nappy!

Trolling is poor moronic G-STRING's response to anything factual. God forbid he attempt to address a topic. Trolling is all he's got, intelligence-wise.




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Monday, March 20, 2017 9:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh, if I could find a way of collecting, I'd bet you dollars to donuts that when the economy tanks, GSTRING will claim that "nobody" talked about it ahead of time, therefore it must be all Trump's fault.




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Monday, March 20, 2017 10:57 PM

G

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:I can't help but notice that you didn't challenge one single fact.

Not one.



Wrong of course. I challenged your deep state BS. You were pro deep state when it was used against Hillary, and now when it's against Trump you've suddenly been against it forever. BS.

Other than that cya bye troll baby.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:02 AM

SIGNYM

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I can't help but notice that you didn't challenge one single fact.
Not one.- SIGNY

Wrong of course. I challenged your deep state BS. You were pro deep state when it was used against Hillary

Which is why, of course, I've been posting against it for years. Total reading/ comprehension fail.

Your IQ is regressing dramatically. Are you sure you're not a zombie?




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Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:34 AM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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I can't help but notice that you didn't challenge one single fact.
Not one.- SIGNY

Wrong of course. I challenged your deep state BS. You were pro deep state when it was used against Hillary

Which is why, of course, I've been posting against it for years. Total reading/ comprehension fail.

Your IQ is regressing dramatically.



Right, you've been against it for years except when it was pointed at Hillary. So, even worse. So, what I said.
Total reading/ comprehension fail. Your IQ is regressing observably.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:29 PM

DREAMTROVE


I guess this theory turned out to be true. Kudos, Sig. This, and the dollar control to the world oil market as a means of boosting the US dollar value, and printing scads of the stuff. That was also true.

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Thursday, April 6, 2017 8:38 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Reviewing the OPs, I still don't see a decent explanation of Deep State, as applies to Obama's Soft-Coup.

Recently I finally heard of what it is, so I'll try to find time to look through this thread with my newfound info.

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Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:28 PM

SIGNYM

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Wrong of course. I challenged your deep state BS. You were pro deep state when it was used against Hillary
Cites please?

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THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Tuesday, April 11, 2017 8:21 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Reviewing the OPs, I still don't see a decent explanation of Deep State, as applies to Obama's Soft-Coup.

Recently I finally heard of what it is, so I'll try to find time to look through this thread with my newfound info.


http://newstarget.com/2017-03-22-white-house-says-the-deep-state-is-re
al-to-undermine-trump.html

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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:23 PM

SIGNYM

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FISA Court Finds "Serious Fourth Amendment Issue" In Obama's "Widespread" Illegal Searches Of American Citizens

A newly released court order from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) found that the National Security Agency, under former President Obama, routinely violated American privacy protections while scouring through overseas intercepts and failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president last fall. In describing the violations, the FISA court said the illegal searches conducted by the NSA under Obama were "widespread" and created a "very serious Fourth Amendment issue."

These new discoveries come from a recently unsealed FISA court document dated April 26, 2017 and center around a hearing dated October 26, 2017, just days before the 2016 election, in which the FISA court apparently learned for the first time of "widespread" and illegal spying on American citizens by the NSA under the Obama administration.

"The October 26, 2016 Notice disclosed that an NSA Inspector General (IG) review...indicated that, with greater frequency than previously disclosed to the Court, NSA analysts had used U.S.-person identifiers to query the result of Internet "upstream" collection, even though NSA's section 702 minimization procedures prohibited such queries...this disclosure gave the Court substantial concern."

FISA



The court order goes on to reveal that NSA analysts had been conducting illegal queries targeting American citizens "with much greater frequency than had previously been disclosed to the Court"...an issue which the court described as a "very serious Fourth Amendment issue."

"Since 2011, NSA's minimization procedures have prohibited use of U.S.-person identifiers to query the results of upstream Internet collection under Section 702. The October 26, 2016 Notice informed the Court that NSA analysts had been conducting such queries in violation of that prohibition, with much greater frequency than had previously been disclosed to the Court."



"At the October 26, 2016 hearing, the Court ascribed the government's failure to disclose those IG and OCO reviews at the October 4, 2016 hearing to an institutional 'lack of candor' on NSA's part and emphasized that 'this is a very serious Fourth Amendment issue.'"

FISA



Of course, these discoveries and their timing, coming just before the 2016 election, are even more suspicious in light of the Obama administration's efforts to 'unmask' intelligence on various Trump campaign officials shortly after the election.

As Circa noted, the American Civil Liberties Union said the newly disclosed violations are some of the most serious to ever be documented and strongly call into question the U.S. intelligence community’s ability to police itself and safeguard American’s privacy as guaranteed by the Constitution’s Fourth Amendment protections against unlawful search and seizure.

“I think what this emphasizes is the shocking lack of oversight of these programs,” said Neema Singh Guliani, the ACLU’s legislative counsel in Washington.

“You have these problems going on for years that only come to the attention of the court late in the game and then it takes additional years to change its practices.

“I think it does call into question all those defenses that we kept hearing, that we always have a robust oversight structure and we have culture of adherence to privacy standards,” she added. “And the headline now is they actually haven’t been in compliance for years and the FISA court itself says in its opinion is that the NSA suffers from a culture of a lack of candor.”

Of course, we suspect that none of this will be reported by any of the mainstream media outlets who will undoubtedly overlook these very distburbing facts in their ongoing efforts to track down the latest anonymously-sourced 'bombshell' report about how Trump once sat across from a Russian boy at lunch in the 2nd grade.

The full FISA Court opinion can be read here: https://www.scribd.com/document/349261099/2016-Cert-FISC-Memo-Opin-Ord
er-Apr-2017-4#from_embed



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THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:25 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Maybe it would make more sense to refer to the "deep state" as the "security state".

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Sunday, May 28, 2017 2:31 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Meh to Trump!? Oh boy! are "we" in for a rude awakening.

Trump practically falls all over himself to bend down and kiss Putin's ass; then comes Turkey "president" Boris Badenov killing folk and the press; sure enough Trump kisses his ass. Then there's the "philopene" scumbag Douchebag or Dickhead, I can't remember all these fucking names; fuck even that nutjob in North Korea he admires (I'm surprised because he doesn't have a hotel/tower there, all the others he does have business interests).

Russia just wants world domination, that's all. So do we, folks, so do we.

Next!


SGG


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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Meh. Obama had a lot stronger foreign ties than Kenya. As did Hillary. Meh to Trump too, but he has the lowest number of favors owed by anyone elected in my lifetime. Russia? Not that worried.

Edit.

So some people in Ukraine, a nation that has a 40% ethnic Russian minority, has some people who are pro-Russia. Color me surprised. Also, is it a reason to panic that a neighboring country has supporters? Would we panic if Canada was pro-American, or even pro-Mexican?

Also, speaking of, we live in a country with a 20% ethnic Latino minority, which has basically always been there ever since we conquered northern Mexico. That population is probably pro-Mexican. Is that a threat to national security? In order for there to be a parallel, the US latino populations slant toward pro-Mexico would have to be a threat to the national security of Russia.

I just don't see it.


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