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Is Trump Nuts?

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 9:12 AM

THGRRI


Trump Accuses Obama of Wiretapping Trump Tower During Campaign

Donald Trump alleged in a tweet storm early Saturday that former President Barack Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower before his election victory.

Trump did not provide any evidence for the claims, which followed an interview on Fox News where the allegations came up.

"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!" Trump wrote as part of a series of tweets Saturday morning.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-accuses-obama-wiretapping-re
sidence-during-campaign-n729056

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 11:12 AM

DREAMTROVE


Nah, he's a scam artist. And sure, they undoubtedly were spying because HRC wanted to win. But she's a psycho, and Obama's now record deliberately trying to start a war. So, we let a mass murderer leave, and then we voted against a genocidal lunatic, and we got a scam artist. Welcome to politics.

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 12:53 PM

ELVISCHRIST


Here's the thing: The president cannot order a wiretap. It's not in his power to do so.

For Trump to be wiretapped, a federal judge had to issue a warrant, which means a federal judge had to be convinced by a FISA court that there was probable cause that Trump either was committing, was about to commit, or already had committed a federal crime such as treason.

So by claiming that he was being wiretapped, Der Gröpenfuhrer is admitting that the feds had reason to believe he was doing something illegal.

Is that really what he wants to tell us?

Of course, for the dolts and morons who voted for and support him, that's all moot, because they'll never hear any of that, because it's not going to be reported on FauxNews or NotSoBreitbart, which is where this particularly scurrilous breed of dipshit gets all their disinformation.

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 2:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
I believe Trump is nuts. And I know that my opinion doesn't count for a hill of beans as I am Canadian.

So really all I can say is have fun guys with the crazy person. But I also pity you.

Or Trump is silly. If he'd try to understand something ( anything! ) that was not about money or sex or his popularity, Trump would know that FBI inquiries into ties between four Trump associates and Russian government figures had led to applications for two Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court warrants. One application was rejected, and then a second, narrower application was accepted. Contrary to Trump’s assertions, neither Obama nor any other President of the United States personally directs FBI investigations, and there’s no evidence that Obama had anything to do with this personally. Lurking beneath Trump’s conspiratorial web is simply the reality that Trump is confirming that the FBI, the intelligence services, and the FISA Court believe there is some kind of investigation-worthy evidence out there.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-joh
n-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts


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Saturday, March 4, 2017 3:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nah. He's just trolling. He can't get a break for one single day from the liberal media throwing all sorts of baseless accusations against him, so he's just going to start throwing them back.


As for the idea that the President can't order a wiretap.... what world are you living in? The President can't start a war without Congressional approval. How's that working out for the Middle East?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 7:26 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
I believe Trump is nuts. And I know that my opinion doesn't count for a hill of beans as I am Canadian.

So really all I can say is have fun guys with the crazy person. But I also pity you.



Hey don't underplay your opinion because you aren't American.

Trump is a narcissist first and dire most. His strategy, unfortunately successful, is to keep himself in the news by making outrageous statements. It distracts from anything important being discussed.

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 7:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
His strategy, unfortunately successful, is to keep himself in the news by making outrageous statements.



LOL... yep. I'm sure that if he closed his twitter account the media would stop talking about him.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 8:32 PM

ELVISCHRIST


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nah. He's just trolling. He can't get a break for one single day from the liberal media throwing all sorts of baseless accusations against him, so he's just going to start throwing them back.




So you're fine with presidents just making shit up.

Tell me again how you never had any problem with Obama, and you'd have been totally cool with him just "trolling" by spewing a bunch of insane bullshit at every opportunity, and I'll correctly point out that you're a fucking lying piece of shit.

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 9:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Obama did that all the time. The only difference is he smiled at your face while stabbing you in the back.

Remember when the ACA was going to allow you to keep your doctor and American families were going to be saving up to $2.5k per year? Or how we were going to get out of all of those wars in the Middle East and bring our troops back home?

Maybe you prefer the more sneaky approach like when he gave away the reins of the internet to the UN in September? Or how American's saw on average a 12% decrease in compensation vs. inflation for their work over the last 8 years while corporations saw a 54% increase in revenues?

I could go on.... but I'm bored now. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 10:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Or Trump is silly. If he'd try to understand something ( anything! ) that was not about money or sex or his popularity, Trump would know that FBI inquiries into ties between four Trump associates and Russian government figures had led to applications for two Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court warrants. One application was rejected, and then a second, narrower application was accepted. Contrary to Trump’s assertions, neither Obama nor any other President of the United States personally directs FBI investigations, and there’s no evidence that Obama had anything to do with this personally. Lurking beneath Trump’s conspiratorial web is simply the reality that Trump is confirming that the FBI, the intelligence services, and the FISA Court believe there is some kind of investigation-worthy evidence out there.



LOL... Trump should have you on his team Second. You'd be invaluable.

I'm SURE that he is completely unaware of any of this.

The hubris of some people... I tell ya.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 10:11 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Here's the thing: The president cannot order a wiretap. It's not in his power to do so.

For Trump to be wiretapped, a federal judge had to issue a warrant, which means a federal judge had to be convinced by a FISA court that there was probable cause that Trump either was committing, was about to commit, or already had committed a federal crime such as treason.

So by claiming that he was being wiretapped, Der Gröpenfuhrer is admitting that the feds had reason to believe he was doing something illegal.

Is that really what he wants to tell us?

Of course, for the dolts and morons who voted for and support him, that's all moot, because they'll never hear any of that, because it's not going to be reported on FauxNews or NotSoBreitbart, which is where this particularly scurrilous breed of dipshit gets all their disinformation.



I would point to the posts here based on nothingness and this one. Gentlemen, we have a winner here. Very good elvischrist.

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Saturday, March 4, 2017 10:16 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
I believe Trump is nuts. And I know that my opinion doesn't count for a hill of beans as I am Canadian.

So really all I can say is have fun guys with the crazy person. But I also pity you.



Hey don't underplay your opinion because you aren't American.

Trump is a narcissist first and dire most. His strategy, unfortunately successful, is to keep himself in the news by making outrageous statements. It distracts from anything important being discussed.



I agree with Magonsdaughter Brenda. The United States plays a unique role in the world. Our allies voicing their opinions should not only be welcome, it is necessary.

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 12:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Very good elvischrist.



I give it a D+.

I reckon it were talking down to us rubes fer so long what got Trump 'lected in the ferst place.

Keep going with that way of lording some imaginary moral and intellectual superiority over those who don't agree with you though. You're all but ensuring that your side is going to lose again in 2020.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 12:30 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Obama did that all the time. The only difference is he smiled at your face while stabbing you in the back.

Remember when the ACA was going to allow you to keep your doctor and American families were going to be saving up to $2.5k per year? Or how we were going to get out of all of those wars in the Middle East and bring our troops back home?

Maybe you prefer the more sneaky approach like when he gave away the reins of the internet to the UN in September? Or how American's saw on average a 12% decrease in compensation vs. inflation for their work over the last 8 years while corporations saw a 54% increase in revenues?

I could go on.... but I'm bored now. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)


Forced to remember it every day.

Brenda,

Canadians can weigh in any time. Trump is pretty pro Canada, it's Mexico he has an issue with. I'll back your right to post on our politics no matter which side you're on.


However, new topic anyone? Kinda of enough on trump'll_fry-fans.net

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 9:58 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

You know DT. I'm not so sure that Trump being pro-Canada is a good thing. He probably thinks our PM is a good "kid".


Beats this as our Canadian foreign policy:


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Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:09 AM

THGRRI


Shit Jack, he was posting facts and procedures. You can find Lindsey Graham saying the same thing. Posting facts is not speaking down to someone. That's just how someone ruled by emotion feels when they are bested. And your response is how they lash out because of it. This could be a learning moment for you Jack.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Very good elvischrist.



I give it a D+.

I reckon it were talking down to us rubes fer so long what got Trump 'lected in the ferst place.

Keep going with that way of lording some imaginary moral and intellectual superiority over those who don't agree with you though. You're all but ensuring that your side is going to lose again in 2020.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



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Sunday, March 5, 2017 12:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Shit Jack, he was posting facts and procedures. You can find Lindsey Graham saying the same thing. Posting facts is not speaking down to someone. That's just how someone ruled by emotion feels when they are bested. And your response is how they lash out because of it. This could be a learning moment for you Jack.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Very good elvischrist.



I give it a D+.

I reckon it were talking down to us rubes fer so long what got Trump 'lected in the ferst place.

Keep going with that way of lording some imaginary moral and intellectual superiority over those who don't agree with you though. You're all but ensuring that your side is going to lose again in 2020.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



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Really? Let's see...

Reply one (not the one you quoted)
Quote:

...and I'll correctly point out that you're a fucking lying piece of shit.


And from the post you admired so much...

Quote:

Of course, for the dolts and morons who voted for and support him, that's all moot, because they'll never hear any of that, because it's not going to be reported on FauxNews or NotSoBreitbart, which is where this particularly scurrilous breed of dipshit gets all their disinformation.


I'm learning a lot alright...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 6:36 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

I don't trust Trump for a minute if he thought Canada was against him that he wouldn't suggest building another idiot wall.

In keeping with the theme “Is Trump Nuts?” I give you an editorial about “A Generation of Sociopaths: How The Baby Boomers Betrayed America”

www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2017/02/26/how-baby-boomers-destroyed-everyt
hing/lVB9eG5mATw3wxo6XmDZFL/story.html


Even before the election, Americans were asking just how we got here — to this sullen moment of national reckoning. Since November, the autopsy has dragged on so long it seems there could be nothing left to dissect. But the search continues, because no truly satisfying answer has yet been offered. Deplorables, deportables, economic malaise, rural resentment, coastal hauteur whatever — these are just symptoms. The root illness remains undiagnosed, but here it is: the baby boomers, that vast generation of Americans born in the first two decades after World War II. The body politic rests on the slab because boomers put it there, because decades of boomerism produced the problems and disaffection of which 2016 was merely the latest expression.

It’s a shocking hypothesis, but then again, America has suffered a shocking decline. In 1971, Alan Shepard was playing golf on the moon. Today, America can’t put a man into orbit (or, allegedly, the Oval Office) without Russian assistance. Something changed, and that something was the boomers and the sociopathic agenda they emplaced.

My indictment of boomers may seem overbroad, but the thesis is quite specific: the unusual prevalence of sociopathy in an unusually large generation. How does that disorder manifest? Improvidence is reflected in low levels of savings and high levels of bankruptcy. Deceit shows up as a distaste for facts, a subject on display in everything from Enron’s quarterly reports to daily press briefings. Interpersonal failures and unbridled hostility appeared in unusually high levels of divorce and crime from the 1970s to early 1990s. These problems expressed themselves at generationally unique levels in boomers, to a greater extent than in boomers’ parents or children at comparable ages. (My forthcoming book lays out all these data in detail.)

Boomers weren’t genetically predestined to be dysfunctional; they were conditioned to be. They were the first generation to be raised permissively, the first reared on television and subject to its developmental harms, and the only living group raised in an era of seemingly effortless prosperity. Can too much license, TV, and unearned wealth distort personalities? May I suggest looking south toward 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

The boomers’ sociopathic inclinations might be of sociological, but not political, interest except for one fact: Boomers have a lot of voting power. Although boomers peaked at just over half the voting age population in the early 1980s, their influence kept growing as they voted more frequently, unleashed a flood of political money, and elected co-generationalists, all in reckless pursuit of the sociopathic agenda. In the 1970s, the older establishment had already begun bending to boomer power, though not always cravenly enough, a problem boomers resolved by becoming the establishment itself. Boomers’ notable early achievement was electing Bill Clinton, who began the long saga that meandered through Bush II and ends — well, who knows how exactly it will end?

What happened in the White House happened everywhere else. By 1994, boomers held a majority of House seats, a proportion that peaked at 79 percent in 2008 and remains a still formidable 69 percent. The rest of government went the same way: Boomers make up 86 percent of governors, about three-quarters of the proposed Cabinet, and much of the judiciary and bureaucracy. Except for youthful Silicon Valley, the private sector also fell into boomer hands decades ago and remains there.

By the late 1990s, as boomerism really expressed itself, disasters arrived: financial scandals, economic infirmities, mounting debt, unaddressed climate change, a growing entitlements crisis, and more. Since it was politically untenable to locate blame in obvious places, other explanations were manufactured for the nation’s woes. (Immigrants!) Especially on the coasts, other explanations have been long suspected, such as the predations of a swollen GOP. Not implausible, but then you have to ask where the swelling comes from, and that circles back to boomers who, despite their hippie reputation, are net Republican.

Anyway, the boomers’ retrograde preferences mattered more than nominal political affiliation, pushing even modern Democrats to the right of Richard Nixon on many matters. After all, it wasn’t Nixon, or even Ronald Reagan, who planted so many of the noxious seeds that blossom now; it was Clinton, the ur-boomer progressive. The “end of welfare as we know it”? Clinton. Berserk policies on crime, immigration, gays, deregulation, and surveillance that bloated into today’s prison state, travel bans, transgender showdowns, and financial crises? Clinton again. The Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act, Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, Defense of Marriage Act, repeal of Glass-Steagall, etc.? Clinton provided the themes; Bush II and Donald Trump, the variations; and other boomers, the orchestra and applause.

Barack Obama has been conspicuously absent, because my argument is as much cultural as chronological. While birth makes Obama a late boomer, his upbringing left him distant — geographically and socially — from the boomer mainstream. Not coincidentally, No Drama Obama was the most sober thing about American politics in 25 years. But he was limited to moderating inherited catastrophes — and prevented from pursuing policies that might benefit people of lesser means, whiteness, and age than the boomers he faced in Congress.

Surely, by 2016, it was time for a thorough reconsideration of the dogmas that caused so much harm, but the last election hardly featured real policy discussion. So what if Social Security faces partial insolvency after 2034, or that climate change has scientists and generals fretting for the world circa 2040? By then, the median boomer will be dead. The only germane issue for the aging, unempathetic sociopath was blocking reform of senior entitlements. Youths like Paul Ryan, with his irksome calculations and future focus, couldn’t be trusted on this issue. But boomers Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, whatever their other infirmities, pledged loyalty on this crucial item.

I don’t imply that Clinton and Trump were otherwise equivalent. They weren’t. Nor do I assert that all of their co-generationalists are sociopaths. They aren’t. But I don’t shrink from arguing that an unusually large fraction of boomers behaves sociopathically, with the power to realize their agenda. The Koch brothers can’t carry all the blame: The 1 percent is, by definition, just 1 percent, unable to dictate national policy on its own. A giant generation of boomers can and does, and their overriding imperative is to consume at someone else’s expense. To say they succeeded is to understate.

The simplicity of the boomer agenda amplified the considerable power of boomer votes, while clarifying otherwise complex issues, especially of benefits and taxes. Benefits, at least for the boomer middle class, were to be expanded — period. Taxes, for the same group, would be cut or reallocated. This dynamic illuminates otherwise inexplicable deviations from orthodoxy practiced by a machine supposedly seized by ideological gridlock. It explains why Reagan lowered taxes on income while raising them on capital gains (when boomers had salaries but not portfolios), why Bill Clinton lowered taxes on houses and stocks (when boomers owned those in quantity), and why Bush II cut taxes with unseemly attention lavished on the “death tax” (just as the boomers’ parents neared expiration) while embracing the largest expansion in welfare since the 1960s (Medicare Part D, in time to benefit aging boomers). The machine works, at least from the boomer perspective.

All these giveaways had consequences. The rich got richer, as we know, but the rich are old. That is, they’re boomers. The patterns of general boomer gains mirrored those of the very wealthy. From 1989 to 2013, wealth gaps between older and younger households grew in the same way as those between the top 5 percent and the bottom 95 percent. Today’s seniors (boomers) are much wealthier relative to the present young than the seniors of the 1980s were to then-young boomers. All those tax breaks, bailouts, easy money, deregulation, and the bubbles they spawned supported that boomer wealth accumulation while shifting the true costs to the future, to the young.

Still, no amount of tax reallocation could keep the government together and goodies flowing, so boomers tolerated astounding debt expansion while chopping other parts of the budget. Gross national debt, 35 percent of GDP when the boomers came of age, is now 105 percent, a peacetime record expanding 3 percent annually, forever. But this understates the problem, because not only does the family farm have a giant mortgage, it also desperately needs repair and modernization.

Unfortunately, boomers show no appetite for maintaining the assets their parents accumulated. Public higher education, nearly free for boomers, has become dauntingly expensive. Infrastructure is neither built nor maintained, and not even “responsible” boomers take this seriously. It was then-candidates John McCain and Hillary Clinton, those paragons of boomer probity, who proposed a gas-tax holiday in 2008, the year the Highway Trust Fund went bust. Federal research and development funding also suffered, with dispiriting consequences for the future. Smartphones may be fairly recent, but their core technologies were developed with government money long ago. Enjoy your iPhone now, because your iCopter and iKidney will be indefinitely delayed.

The consequences of boomer overconsumption, underinvestment, and appetite for risk reveal themselves every time a bridge or bank collapses, but can be summarized in America’s prolonged economic mediocrity. Finding decent growth requires stretching all the way back to the 1990s, and even so, the 1990s barely edged out 1970s’ squalor on a per capita GDP basis. Thanks to boomer policies, the new normal is 1.6 percent real growth, well below the 2.5 to 3.5 percent rates prevailing from the 1950s to the 1980s. For the young, the price will be incomes 30 percent to 50 percent lower than they could have been.

When problems grow large, boomers resort to deceit, and the huge degradation of truth suggests just how bad things have gotten. Whether it be misrepresentations by Worldcom, Lehman Brothers, Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, or General Michael Flynn, boomer culture has wallowed in duplicity for decades. Untruths are emitted, others bear the consequences, and this has been the case for decades. The dubious draft deferments of the 1960s became the off-balance-sheet obligations of the 1990s, ginned-up weapons of mass destruction of the 2000s, and today’s phantom terrorism in Bowling Green and Sweden. “Alternative facts” are just the most recent consequences of the boomers’ declaration of epistemic bankruptcy.

If Trump has given America one gift, it’s a free hand to condemn the generation of which he is the impeachable id. Henceforth, let us expect no more from people who achieved so little, who have such small interest in the future. Let us dispense with ideas that aging flower children have substantial claims on goodness, as boomers liberal and conservative alike engaged in warrantless wiretapping, extrajudicial assassinations, gratuitous assaults on the dignity of minorities, mass disenfranchisement, the erection of a vast and useless penal state, and policies of cavalier disregard. Let us turn boomers out from offices high, corner, and otherwise, and keenly assess boomers’ contributions to society against their demands for interminable subsidy, finding some reasonable settlement. And let us do it soon.

Bruce Cannon Gibney is a venture capitalist and writer and the author of the forthcoming book “A Generation of Sociopaths: How The Baby Boomers Betrayed America.”


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:15 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah... I'm not buying that.

Let's pit the generations against each other on top of sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, Islamophobia, etc, etc, etc...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 6, 2017 12:18 AM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah... I'm not buying that.

Let's pit the generations against each other on top of sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, Islamophobia, etc, etc, etc...

Do Right, Be Right. :)


A new koolaid. Speaking of which, check out the video I posted, the interview with the KGB agent, he talks about how they cooked up all the koolaid. Them and Frankfurt School. It's really impressive to see how it actually all was a communist plot after all.

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Monday, March 6, 2017 7:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah... I'm not buying that.

Let's pit the generations against each other on top of sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, Islamophobia, etc, etc, etc...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Well, I buy the theory that "By the late 1990s, as boomerism really expressed itself, disasters arrived: financial scandals, economic infirmities, mounting debt, unaddressed climate change, a growing entitlements crisis, and more. Since it was politically untenable to locate blame in obvious places, other explanations were manufactured for the nation’s woes. (Immigrants!) Especially on the coasts, other explanations have been long suspected, such as the predations of a swollen GOP. Not implausible, but then you have to ask where the swelling comes from, and that circles back to boomers who, despite their hippie reputation, are net Republican."

This is definitely true: "boomers who, despite their hippie reputation, are net Republican." The first vaguely political book I ever bought was Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot by Senator Al Franken of Minnesota. In stark contrast, an actual Baby Boomer that I know began filling his library in 1999 with all of Rush Limbaugh’s books because, according the boomer, “Rush tells it like it is.”
www.amazon.com/Rush-Limbaugh-Big-Fat-Idiot/dp/0440508649

Since then, I’ve prospered while the former long-haired hippy turned to Rush reading sociopath of a boomer is now a foaming-at-mouth Republican whose life has gone to hell – losing jobs, making bad decisions, buying a Harley motorcycle and crashing it, you name the stereotypical boomer stupidity and he has done it, culminating in voting for and defending Trump. Reading Rush will rot your brain. That baby boomer who read Rush for the last 18 years definitely has had his brain damaged.

A sample from the book Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot:
Quote:

I liked the Bob Dole I read about in Cramer’s book, even though the ambition that made him an absentee husband and dad caused his first marriage to end in divorce. Frankly, I’m getting a little sick of cranky Republicans who can’t keep their own families together telling everybody else about family values. Quick. What do Newt Gingrich, Bob Dole, Phil Gramm, and George Will have in common? Answer. They’ve all been married only one less time than Rush Limbaugh.

I spend time with my kids. And lots of it. I believe the best thing a parent can give his kid is time. And not just quality time, but big, stinking, lazy, non-productive quantity time. In fact, that’s why this book is so badly written. Believe me, you’d be enjoying the experience of reading this book a lot more if I weren’t so dedicated to my children.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, March 6, 2017 8:42 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I don't listen to any one source too long or exclusively. If he really was listening only to Rush (and one could assume only other people that Rush recommended), then that is a problem because you become completely biased and shut everything else out. At some point it's really not much different than joining Scientology.

You seem to be taking that to the extreme though and saying that the only reason that he has made many poor life choices is because he listened to Rush. And you double down on it by, once again, flaunting your great lifestyle and saying the only reason that you are doing so well is because you're a left extremist yourself.

Rush did not tell him to crash his Harley. And if he is truly brain damaged and that's not just you insulting anybody who doesn't see things your way again, I'm going to say that the source of that brain damage was much more likely the motorcycle crash than reading books by Rush.

I'm not sure what your point about the Harley was anyway? Are you saying that he bought a Harley because Rush told him to only buy American, and that if he had bought a crotch rocket instead that he wouldn't have crashed it?


You're points are all over the map.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 7, 2017 5:15 PM

DREAMTROVE


Hey!

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Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:14 PM

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Hey!



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The cat and the Scientologist. Not a member, but I know these guys, and they're not dumb. The current head of CoS is a nutter, but as ideologies go, if they could get away from Hubbard monotheism, they'd be okay.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:21 PM

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
The cat and the Scientologist. Not a member, but I know these guys, and they're not dumb. The current head of CoS is a nutter, but as ideologies go, if they could get away from Hubbard monotheism, they'd be okay.



I definitely don't think they're stupid. The ones at the top raking in the cash anyhow.

I remember buying Dianetics from something I saw on TV back when I was like 20 and super stoned. That was 17 years and 5 addresses ago, and to this day I still get a very heavy mailer from them about every 2-3 months. It's creepy. They have probably spent over $100 in production costs and postage trying to recruit me for the better part of two decades after I spent $30 bucks on a Dianetics starter kit.

What's $100 bucks when you charge somebody $50,000 to be "clear", right?


That being said, I did find the book fascinating at the time. I tried getting my uncle to read it and he started to get pissed when I pushed it. He was a very non-practicing Catholic that didn't ever preach about it, but he knew something was wrong with them years before knocking on Scientology was cool.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't listen to any one source too long or exclusively. If he really was listening only to Rush (and one could assume only other people that Rush recommended), then that is a problem because you become completely biased and shut everything else out. At some point it's really not much different than joining Scientology.

You seem to be taking that to the extreme though and saying that the only reason that he has made many poor life choices is because he listened to Rush. And you double down on it by, once again, flaunting your great lifestyle and saying the only reason that you are doing so well is because you're a left extremist yourself.

Rush did not tell him to crash his Harley. And if he is truly brain damaged and that's not just you insulting anybody who doesn't see things your way again, I'm going to say that the source of that brain damage was much more likely the motorcycle crash than reading books by Rush.

I'm not sure what your point about the Harley was anyway? Are you saying that he bought a Harley because Rush told him to only buy American, and that if he had bought a crotch rocket instead that he wouldn't have crashed it?


You're points are all over the map.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do people who can’t think listen to Rush? Or does listening to Rush diminish thinking? Yes to both, I say.

A typical day at www.rushlimbaugh.com/ will have Rush telling misleading stories and making claims or drawing conclusions he can’t prove. This goes on for hours and tomorrow Rush will do it again and the same listeners will be back. What kind of person would listen to Rush? Do they have all their marbles? No they don’t, but I am drawing my conclusion from a small sample size of Texas Republicans whose personal incompetence in the biggest decisions of life is noteworthy. Where you are from, whatever state, maybe, just maybe, Rush listeners are not a bunch of dumb asses in the real world. You are very lucky. (By "dumb ass" I don't mean Republican. I mean they make dumb mistakes that cost money, jobs, marriages and health. These aren't trivial mistakes. One has two strikes: negligent homicide and accidental poisoning of his wife. She is very dead. I'll add a little moral: pay less attention to what Trump or Rush say and more attention to their own lives.)

A sample from www.rushlimbaugh.com
Phony Penguin Photo Used to Sell Global Warming Lie
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: The picture was a couple of penguins on an anvil-shaped piece of ice in what looked like a rock-strewn, barren landscape.

We’ve Never Seen Anything Like CNN’s Spy Cam
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: Did you see what CNN did yesterday? Have you seen still shots or video of this? They never did this on Obama.

You Better Be Applauding Donald Trump for Turning the Tables on the Democrats
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: This whole Russia-rigged-the election thing is a bogus charge and he decided to pick the grenade up and throw it right back at the media-Democrat complex. And it's working.

In Defense of Jason Chaffetz
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: Jason Chaffetz stepped into it yesterday, and I’m gonna defend him. I know exactly what he was talking about. He may not know what he was talking about, but I do.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 7, 2017 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
The cat and the Scientologist. Not a member, but I know these guys, and they're not dumb. The current head of CoS is a nutter, but as ideologies go, if they could get away from Hubbard monotheism, they'd be okay.



I definitely don't think they're stupid. The ones at the top raking in the cash anyhow.

I remember buying Dianetics from something I saw on TV back when I was like 20 and super stoned. That was 17 years and 5 addresses ago, and to this day I still get a very heavy mailer from them about every 2-3 months. It's creepy. They have probably spent over $100 in production costs and postage trying to recruit me for the better part of two decades after I spent $30 bucks on a Dianetics starter kit.

What's $100 bucks when you charge somebody $50,000 to be "clear", right?


That being said, I did find the book fascinating at the time. I tried getting my uncle to read it and he started to get pissed when I pushed it. He was a very non-practicing Catholic that didn't ever preach about it, but he knew something was wrong with them years before knocking on Scientology was cool.

I met a guy form neopets online, in '08, after having met others in Kansas in '06. I ended up corresponding with him, and he helped me set up my store, and I talked him into going digital with the info push, and trimming it down to a manageable size. I guess he was in charge of the massive distributiong and I was saving him from wasting money, so I didn't end up getting bombarded. I think this is true of any organization: If you come in on the top floor, you get treated very different from if you walk in through the front door. That might explain some of the Tom-Katie stuff.

Also, $50k ? If the religion works, then the information should be free (and, i'm sure, is, posted all over the place. There's a large scientologist heretic community.) I've thought of getting together stuff that fits into Hubbard's spectrum by other people at times, but thten again, I've also thought of entering their contest and never did it. I should really write more.


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't listen to any one source too long or exclusively. If he really was listening only to Rush (and one could assume only other people that Rush recommended), then that is a problem because you become completely biased and shut everything else out. At some point it's really not much different than joining Scientology.

You seem to be taking that to the extreme though and saying that the only reason that he has made many poor life choices is because he listened to Rush. And you double down on it by, once again, flaunting your great lifestyle and saying the only reason that you are doing so well is because you're a left extremist yourself.

Rush did not tell him to crash his Harley. And if he is truly brain damaged and that's not just you insulting anybody who doesn't see things your way again, I'm going to say that the source of that brain damage was much more likely the motorcycle crash than reading books by Rush.

I'm not sure what your point about the Harley was anyway? Are you saying that he bought a Harley because Rush told him to only buy American, and that if he had bought a crotch rocket instead that he wouldn't have crashed it?


You're points are all over the map.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do people who can’t think listen to Rush? Or does listening to Rush diminish thinking? Yes to both, I say.

A typical day at www.rushlimbaugh.com/ will have Rush telling misleading stories and making claims or drawing conclusions he can’t prove. This goes on for hours and tomorrow Rush will do it again and the same listeners will be back. What kind of person would listen to Rush? Do they have all their marbles? No they don’t, but I am drawing my conclusion from a small sample size of Texas Republicans whose personal incompetence in the biggest decisions of life is noteworthy. Where you are from, whatever state, maybe, just maybe, Rush listeners are not a bunch of dumb asses in the real world. You are very lucky. (By "dumb ass" I don't mean Republican. I mean they make dumb mistakes that cost money, jobs, marriages and health. These aren't trivial mistakes. One has two strikes: negligent homicide and accidental poisoning of his wife. She is very dead. I'll add a little moral: pay less attention to what Trump or Rush say and more attention to their own lives.)

A sample from www.rushlimbaugh.com
Phony Penguin Photo Used to Sell Global Warming Lie
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: The picture was a couple of penguins on an anvil-shaped piece of ice in what looked like a rock-strewn, barren landscape.

We’ve Never Seen Anything Like CNN’s Spy Cam
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: Did you see what CNN did yesterday? Have you seen still shots or video of this? They never did this on Obama.

You Better Be Applauding Donald Trump for Turning the Tables on the Democrats
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: This whole Russia-rigged-the election thing is a bogus charge and he decided to pick the grenade up and throw it right back at the media-Democrat complex. And it's working.

In Defense of Jason Chaffetz
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: Jason Chaffetz stepped into it yesterday, and I’m gonna defend him. I know exactly what he was talking about. He may not know what he was talking about, but I do.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



You're going to tell me about claims Rush makes that can't be proven and then with a straight face tell me that Republicans you know in your area are incompetent enough to accidentally poison their wives either because they listened to Rush and got brain damage or were brain damaged enough in the first place to listen to Rush?

I didn't know you had a sense of humor. That's hilarious. More please.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2017 10:15 PM

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I met a guy form neopets online, in '08, after having met others in Kansas in '06. I ended up corresponding with him, and he helped me set up my store, and I talked him into going digital with the info push, and trimming it down to a manageable size. I guess he was in charge of the massive distributiong and I was saving him from wasting money, so I didn't end up getting bombarded. I think this is true of any organization: If you come in on the top floor, you get treated very different from if you walk in through the front door. That might explain some of the Tom-Katie stuff.

Also, $50k ? If the religion works, then the information should be free (and, i'm sure, is, posted all over the place. There's a large scientologist heretic community.) I've thought of getting together stuff that fits into Hubbard's spectrum by other people at times, but thten again, I've also thought of entering their contest and never did it. I should really write more.




I'd LOVE to know how much money Tom has given to the "Church". Or John Travolta, or that kid from the 70's show, or the laundry list of Hollywood celebs who have bought into it. I'll bet none of them were ever asked for a single cent, but they've given much more than the church would expect from you or I.

Have you ever read the book? It's the only one by him that I've ever read, and I thought it was amazing at the time. Then again, I was only 20 years old and essentially an entirely different person than I am now, so I don't know if I'd say the same today. You got to remember that back then was before most folk were even on the internet and really the only thing most of us knew about Scientology was that John Travolta was into it. That was years before South Park kind of blew it all up and exposed them to the world and Anonymous had their fun with them. I don't think I could give it a fair evaluation for a second read now because I'd be going into it thinking it was a cult recruiting tool instead of the self-help/psychology book that it was marketed as back then.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2017 10:22 PM

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Now, play nice. Just had a trip down memory lane reading old threads. Miss those guys. I think it's time for a revival.

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Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:36 PM

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I believe Trump is nuts. And I know that my opinion doesn't count for a hill of beans as I am Canadian.

So really all I can say is have fun guys with the crazy person. But I also pity you.

Your nationality has nothing to do with what you think of anyone.

I'm a US citizen and I agree. He's nuts.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 1:16 AM

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He'z a 10 yir old rich brat that never got the spanking he dezerved. Arrested development.

Wun uv the hardest thingz in life iz to not be an asshole. Its impossibl to get anything serious dun without being an asshole to sumbudy, but you haf to try to minimize the offens and weigh it agenst the benefits.

Trump iz not only too stoopid to figure that out on hiz own in 70 yirz, he iz too stoopid to understand it no matter how hard you try to explain it.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 2:27 AM

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Stoopid & a Wurld leader:

Sounds like a formula for disaster. :(



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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 2:44 AM

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lol... you guys are funny

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 5:35 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Maybe. But he's just realized ... as you still haven't .... how far the deep state extends. (see 'Vault 7') And he still has the ability to be shocked about it.



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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 7:55 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Rush did not tell him to crash his Harley. And if he is truly brain damaged and that's not just you insulting anybody who doesn't see things your way again, I'm going to say that the source of that brain damage was much more likely the motorcycle crash than reading books by Rush.

I'm not sure what your point about the Harley was anyway? Are you saying that he bought a Harley because Rush told him to only buy American, and that if he had bought a crotch rocket instead that he wouldn't have crashed it?

You're points are all over the map.

I'll be all over the map again.

I had to check to learn if the guy who crashed his motorcycle can listen to Rush on the radio while riding. Yes, he can.

On a motorcycle, if you stop thinking about what is going on around you, you’re dead. To listen to Rush, you must turn off your brain to the outside world and go deep within the nifty story that Rush is weaving for you, his listeners. To ride a motorcycle while listening to Rush with your brain off the road traffic, with your attention somewhere other than the streets around you, is very dangerous. That motorcycle crash of the Rush Limbaugh/Trump lover happened at noon, which is prime time for Rush on KTRH NewsRadio 740 in Houston. He would not admit to listening to Rush when it happened, but who would be that honest?

Here is an example of a really good fairy tale that Rush was weaving yesterday for the benefit of Trump lovers. A perfect fantasy for crashing your motorcycle:
www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/03/07/you-better-be-applauding-donald-
trump-for-turning-the-tables-on-the-democrats
/

There is more about the Rush/Trump fan on a motorcycle. He is a family man who knows that statistics don’t apply to him. Most Rush listeners feel in their hearts that they are not average, that statistics don’t apply to them, and that their lives will work out just fine if only the government would leave them alone and let them ride their motorcycles without a helmet. In Texas, it is legal to ride without a helmet.

Facts and statistics from other people’s lost lives mean very little to him because he rides for Freedom and Making America Great. I shall tell his wife to buy life insurance on him because it is the prudent thing to do when married to a Rush ditto head on a motorcycle:

Occupant Fatality Rates By Vehicle Type 2014

Fatality rate per 100,000 registered vehicles Motorcycles 54.48, Passenger cars 9.09
Fatality rate per 100 million vehicle miles traveled Motorcycles 22.96, Passenger cars 0.85
www.iii.org/issue-update/motorcycle-crashes

Is there a correlation between listening to Rush on the radio and fatally crashing your car or cycle? Nobody can say because nobody knows how to collect the data from the deceased but God.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:31 AM

6STRINGJOKER


In the last two days I've heard more Rush stuff than I have in the last 2 years.

If I ever decide I want to get a motorcycle I will keep all of this in mind and make sure that I wasn't listening to Rush before I head to the Harley Shop. Thanks Second!

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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
In the last two days I've heard more Rush stuff than I have in the last 2 years.

If I ever decide I want to get a motorcycle I will keep all of this in mind and make sure that I wasn't listening to Rush before I head to the Harley Shop. Thanks Second!

Not that you asked, but I've got a slightly amusing story to explain what Rush was doing with his very imaginative, even highly intelligent, defense of Trump -- this particular defense, which is a really good story: www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/03/07/you-better-be-applauding-donald-
trump-for-turning-the-tables-on-the-democrats
/

My story, very different from Rush's story and not as clever, says something about who is acting nuts while defending Trump. It goes like this:

For many years, the famous Crystal Palace dinner theater in Aspen featured a cabaret song that every audience loved: “The Peanut Butter Affair.”

It told the story of a CEO who had gone to work one day, without properly washing his face, and still had a lump of peanut butter on his chin. But none of his employees dared to tell him.

When he got home, though, his wife told him it was there, and he was appalled. But he was even more appalled when he showed up for work over the next few days and eventually “every jerk from the chairman to the clerk had a lump of peanut butter on his chin.”

That spoof of underlings who witlessly mimic their bosses came to mind as I listened to Trump aides and allies justifying the president’s Saturday morning Twitter rant alleging — without any evidence — that President Barack Obama ordered Trump Tower phones be tapped during the 2016 campaign. It seemed like the whole Trump team was putting peanut butter on their chins. The only question was who had the biggest lump. (In my opinion, Rush Limbaugh does, which is why his audience is very large and very satisfied with him.)

www.nytimes.com/2017/03/07/opinion/peanut-butter-on-the-trump-teams-ch
ins.html


I did not forgot the moral to the story: If our president is willing to casually throw under a bus our most elemental principles of presidential conduct — such as, you don’t accuse your predecessor of a high crime without evidence, just to divert attention away from your latest mess — we have a real problem. I am sorry to say that it is necessary to spotlight the obvious moral because Trump lovers can blindly not see such things.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 10:42 AM

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I'm trying to keep an open mind Second.

I won't deny that I still like Trump. I'm no mindless peanut lump sporting sycophant though.

What I wish the left and the MSM would do right now is just tone it down a bit. What we're seeing here is information overload, and every single day we get to see another story or three with Trump making headlines. The half of the country that voted against Trump are eating up every bit of it and it's fueling their anger, and the other half of the country is either digging in their heels and fighting back or simply tuning out altogether.

I'm willing to reconsider my opinions about Trump if there are actual things of substance that he is guilty of, but I'm not going to sift through thousands of hate articles that are thrown against the wall by the left just to see what sticks.

It reeks of desperation and just solidifies his base against the other side and closes their eyes and ears and minds to any legitimate criticisms of REAL things that he does.



I keep hearing from people here how stupid Trump is. I wouldn't underestimate him. I think he knows exactly what he's doing and that you're all playing right into his hands. He waited what... 5 days after being elected to put in his bid for re-election in 2020? He's already campaigning and not spending any money doing it. You and your friends and the MSM are more powerful than any commercials that he could put on TV.

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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
I'm trying to keep an open mind Second.

. . . I wouldn't underestimate him. I think he knows exactly what he's doing and that you're all playing right into his hands. He waited what... 5 days after being elected to put in his bid for re-election in 2020? He's already campaigning and not spending any money doing it. You and your friends and the MSM are more powerful than any commercials that he could put on TV.

I think you are right! Bush got reelected despite the Iraq War going badly on election day in 2004. Trump will get elected in 2020 unless he has either a fiasco, snafu, or scandal bigger than Bush’s Iraq War. Maybe Trump will try doing all three (fiasco, snafu and scandal) out of boredom with running an ordinary election campaign. He craves more stimulation. The worse the crisis he creates the happier Trump is. He is addicted to drama, the opposite pole from No Drama Obama.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 11:16 AM

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You really are a confused person.

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Maybe. But he's just realized ... as you still haven't .... how far the deep state extends. (see 'Vault 7') And he still has the ability to be shocked about it.



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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 12:33 PM

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I think you are right! Bush got reelected despite the Iraq War going badly on election day in 2004. Trump will get elected in 2020 unless he has either a fiasco, snafu, or scandal bigger than Bush’s Iraq War. Maybe Trump will try doing all three (fiasco, snafu and scandal) out of boredom with running an ordinary election campaign. He craves more stimulation. The worse the crisis he creates the happier Trump is. He is addicted to drama, the opposite pole from No Drama Obama.



I'm just enjoying the drama here. Y'all keep doing what you're doing though. You know what they say about the definition of insanity being doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result and all.

Bush got re-elected mainly because of two big lies that he told. He was going to privatize social security and was going to make a constitutional ammendment to ban gay marriage, and that was enough to put an unpopular president during an unpopular war over the top.

On that occasion, I'm glad he was lying to us and didn't pursue it. It was a ridiculous piece of legislature that Obama or anyone else would have overturned that the second he got into office and it would be another scar on the Constitution.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 3:15 PM

OONJERAH



Second: "He is addicted to drama, the opposite pole from No Drama Obama."

The Presidency as a soap opera in Real Life ...
Not just a silly movie this time?

This is scary to me like handing my car keys to a drunk teen-ager.

Many of us in the Olde School are really appalled ... I hadn't realized
that many don't know the difference between TV (both "reality TV" &
TV for entertainment) and Real Life. I should understand it, tho, since
I've often tried to make my real life more like fantasyland.

Since the election, my hope has been that he'll continue to offend so
often, so badly, that even the far right will reject him.
Isn't the Right s'posed to be Conservative, aka well-mannered?





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I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 6:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't listen to any one source too long or exclusively. If he really was listening only to Rush (and one could assume only other people that Rush recommended), then that is a problem because you become completely biased and shut everything else out. At some point it's really not much different than joining Scientology.

You seem to be taking that to the extreme though and saying that the only reason that he has made many poor life choices is because he listened to Rush. And you double down on it by, once again, flaunting your great lifestyle and saying the only reason that you are doing so well is because you're a left extremist yourself.

Rush did not tell him to crash his Harley. And if he is truly brain damaged and that's not just you insulting anybody who doesn't see things your way again, I'm going to say that the source of that brain damage was much more likely the motorcycle crash than reading books by Rush.

I'm not sure what your point about the Harley was anyway? Are you saying that he bought a Harley because Rush told him to only buy American, and that if he had bought a crotch rocket instead that he wouldn't have crashed it?


You're points are all over the map.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Do people who can’t think listen to Rush? Or does listening to Rush diminish thinking? Yes to both, I say.


Ho boy. Your Libtard delusions are showing.
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A typical day at www.rushlimbaugh.com/ will have Rush telling misleading stories and making claims or drawing conclusions he can’t prove. This goes on for hours and tomorrow Rush will do it again and the same listeners will be back. What kind of person would listen to Rush? Do they have all their marbles? No they don’t, but I am drawing my conclusion from a small sample size of Texas Republicans whose personal incompetence in the biggest decisions of life is noteworthy. Where you are from, whatever state, maybe, just maybe, Rush listeners are not a bunch of dumb asses in the real world. You are very lucky. (By "dumb ass" I don't mean Republican. I mean they make dumb mistakes that cost money, jobs, marriages and health. These aren't trivial mistakes. One has two strikes: negligent homicide and accidental poisoning of his wife. She is very dead. I'll add a little moral: pay less attention to what Trump or Rush say and more attention to their own lives.)

A sample from www.rushlimbaugh.com
Phony Penguin Photo Used to Sell Global Warming Lie
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: The picture was a couple of penguins on an anvil-shaped piece of ice in what looked like a rock-strewn, barren landscape.

We’ve Never Seen Anything Like CNN’s Spy Cam
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: Did you see what CNN did yesterday? Have you seen still shots or video of this? They never did this on Obama.

You Better Be Applauding Donald Trump for Turning the Tables on the Democrats
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: This whole Russia-rigged-the election thing is a bogus charge and he decided to pick the grenade up and throw it right back at the media-Democrat complex. And it's working.

In Defense of Jason Chaffetz
Mar 7,2017
RUSH: Jason Chaffetz stepped into it yesterday, and I’m gonna defend him. I know exactly what he was talking about. He may not know what he was talking about, but I do.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 6:58 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Ho boy. Your Libtard delusions are showing.

I show real liberal bias. Trump is Baby Man!
www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/6/1639878/-Cartoon-The-return-of-Baby-
Man



Rush’s Famous Quotes for Today!
"Did you see that today is a Day Without Women? Have you heard that? It's something like that, a Day Without Women rally. The organizers here are encouraging women not to shop. Now, how much do you want to bet that idea was cooked up by their husbands?" Maybe a little context will help? Rush is now on wife #4. I predict he will be in the marketplace for #5 by 2020. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 7:17 PM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Second: "He is addicted to drama, the opposite pole from No Drama Obama."

The Presidency as a soap opera in Real Life ...
Not just a silly movie this time?

This is scary to me like handing my car keys to a drunk teen-ager.

Many of us in the Olde School are really appalled ... I hadn't realized
that many don't know the difference between TV (both "reality TV" &
TV for entertainment) and Real Life. I should understand it, tho, since
I've often tried to make my real life more like fantasyland.

Since the election, my hope has been that he'll continue to offend so
often, so badly, that even the far right will reject him.
Isn't the Right s'posed to be Conservative, aka well-mannered?



I can appreciate that point of view O. Unfortunately we don't ever hear much from the Olde School left. It's drowned out by the new wave leftists' cry baby tantrums on a daily basis. It's hard to reject the President when conservatives can sit back and look at the MSM and how crazy the loud SJW left has been since the election and they get daily reminders of what we didn't get by voting Clinton in.

Like I said... their behavior is a better re-election advertisement than anything he could actually pay for.

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:01 PM

THGRRI


I'm old school Jack. It's why I'm appalled. I post the same reasons for being appalled that Oon is speaking about. Yet you dismiss them all. I'm a centrist Jack.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

Second: "He is addicted to drama, the opposite pole from No Drama Obama."

The Presidency as a soap opera in Real Life ...
Not just a silly movie this time?

This is scary to me like handing my car keys to a drunk teen-ager.

Many of us in the Olde School are really appalled ... I hadn't realized
that many don't know the difference between TV (both "reality TV" &
TV for entertainment) and Real Life. I should understand it, tho, since
I've often tried to make my real life more like fantasyland.

Since the election, my hope has been that he'll continue to offend so
often, so badly, that even the far right will reject him.
Isn't the Right s'posed to be Conservative, aka well-mannered?



I can appreciate that point of view O. Unfortunately we don't ever hear much from the Olde School left. It's drowned out by the new wave leftists' cry baby tantrums on a daily basis. It's hard to reject the President when conservatives can sit back and look at the MSM and how crazy the loud SJW left has been since the election and they get daily reminders of what we didn't get by voting Clinton in.

Like I said... their behavior is a better re-election advertisement than anything he could actually pay for.



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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:06 PM

DREAMTROVE


depends on your def. of real liberal. not classical liberal. I'm pretty sure Trump is that. The other thing he is, is President of the United States. Jack is right. It did rub me the wrong, way, a little too derogatory. Like Bush or Chimp, or if someone had said that Obama was not a valid president because he was ... (oh anything, you know that no one would have gotten away with it) but it would have been wrong. Bush and Obama were terrible presidents because of their policies, not because they had big ears.

Props for the Boshe Moi comment. I'm sure that Putin think just that from time to time. Those exact two words. He's not jewish enough for Oy Vey.


ETA:

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:32 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by second:... and that their lives will work out just fine if only the government would leave them alone and let them ride their motorcycles without a helmet. In Texas, it is legal to ride without a helmet.


Peepl who ride motorsiklz without a helmet don't need a helmet.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

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Wednesday, March 8, 2017 9:07 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Props for the Boshe Moi comment. I'm sure that Putin think just that from time to time. Those exact two words. He's not jewish enough for Oy Vey.

When I run the cartoon Putin’s Russian through google translate, I get “Oh my god!”
https://translate.google.com/#ru/en/%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%20%D0%BC%
D0%BE%D0%B9


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