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Is Trump Nuts?

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:54 AM

OONJERAH


Me & most of the people I spoke to about it
Did Not want to vote for Trump or Clinton ...
We said, "It's 2 bad choices. What are we gonna do?
A write-in? That's like throwing your vote away."

A friend of mine explained why the Republicans
nominated Trump; it sounded like a strange religious
fantasy. He didn't tell me why the Democrats ran with
Hillary.

But for me, politically, we've stepped into the Twilight Zone.


... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:16 AM

6STRINGJOKER


I'm sure there were a lot of different reasons that people voted for Hillary.

That's one of the problems that you mention right there. Voting for Turmp wasn't anything close to a religious experience for me. I'll bet there were others that felt that way about it though. I will admit that it was the first time that I actually wanted to vote for a president rather than just voting against the other guy though.

Everyone picks their "side" and assumes that everyone who voted for their guy agrees with everything they think and everyone who voted for the other guy stands against everything they believe. The left this time, which I blame a lot of this on Hillary's deplorables speech, has a lot of hate in their heart for anyone who voted for Trump and has become a bunch of the rudest people you've ever known.

That's a generalization, of course. I think a majority of those who voted for Clinton are normal people who have gotten on with their lives and hope things go well the next 4 years.

But all you ever hear from is the very loud and very rude vocal minority.

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 7:06 AM

JO753

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I know several peepl in RL who are rabid Trump fanz. The odd thing iz that they arent much alike otherwize. A few are clearly gulliblez, wun iz a reazonably capable enjineer. Another iz a natural born salezman, so I am constantly suprized that he fallz for Trumps BS.

The common factorz are they all get their info frum the rite wing eko chamber. And uv course, they all hate Obama, deny they watch Fox Newz, deny being Republicanz.

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 7:26 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Maybe it's not bullshit. Maybe it is. No single president has been so hated by the MSM and hounded like Trump before. I'm sure people were complaining about Obama from day one, but we were all so sick of how bad things were under GWB that most people weren't. By the time he got re-elected I was really disappointed that people would have voted him back in, but jesus this is just crazy.

Why do you feel the need to insult people who supported Trump J0? You're being rude.

Your buddy is an engineer. He's obviously not stupid.

Give the fucking prez a chance to do good or to screw things up, and don't be so quick to judge people that don't jump on the Trump hate train. Especially your friends.


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Saturday, March 11, 2017 7:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:

Give the fucking prez a chance to do good or to screw things up, and don't be so quick to judge people that don't jump on the Trump hate train. Especially your friends.

Trump needs to get more self-control right now, this very day, not some months into his term. His lack of self-control is why he is being mocked and harassed by the press. At this time last week Trump wrote that Obama had committed a crime worse than Watergate. And he wrote it without following it with any proof in writing. That is a lack of self-control that Trump could not wait for the proof before he made his accusations of major felony. Why is Trump in such a hurry that he can't wait? Is he trying to screw-up?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837996746236182529

To add another example of Trump's lack of self-control: Trump has embraced the American Health Care Act, authored by Paul Ryan and other House Republicans. This represents a massive betrayal of his own clear and repeated promises to the American people. This is a huge screw-up by Trump. Has he lost his mind? He better find it real quick.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/10/14881200/trump-health-care-p
romises


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Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:23 AM

6STRINGJOKER


I will agree that his wife should take away his Tweeting privileges.

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
I will agree that his wife should take away his Tweeting privileges.

How about the part where Trump betrays his promise for a replacement that is better than Obamacare? What do you take away from Trump so he stops acting crazy and starts acting like he will keep his promise?

You might not care what Trump does for a better replacement for Obamacare because you're healthy and you might not have noticed that the replacement is worse than Obamacare because Trump keeps saying it is better, but it is flat crazy for Trump to sell his replacement plan with lies. He is guaranteed to get caught once his latest plan goes into effect a year or two from now, assuming it passes. Maybe by then Trump will disavow what he is doing now, but he still is crazy. I assume he is depending on his voters not to understand how he cheated them out of what he promised.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/10/14881200/trump-health-care-p
romises


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Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:28 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Ignore

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:41 PM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I know several peepl in RL who are rabid Trump fanz. The odd thing iz that they arent much alike otherwize. A few are clearly gulliblez, wun iz a reazonably capable enjineer. Another iz a natural born salezman, so I am constantly suprized that he fallz for Trumps BS.

The common factorz are they all get their info frum the rite wing eko chamber. And uv course, they all hate Obama, deny they watch Fox Newz, deny being Republicanz.



I know a couple, acquaintances mostly. I can't imagine what they don't see. Like you said, I'm surprised especially when a salesman/person doesn't see the con. Maybe they are a tight group because they get so much sh*t in real life? "Atta boy, Trumpie! Best salesman Eva! He could sell eskimos to ice!" They are a bit younger, so maybe the office doesn't mean as much? They've seen some pretty bad hombres as president, lots of scandal, maybe it just seems natural?

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:52 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I think you need to make a distinction between "Trump voter" versus "Trump supporter".

All of the people that I know who voted for Trump, including myself, voted for Trump on limited grounds, not because of global support for Trump or belief in all of his promises. The people that I know who voted for Trump are university-educated technical people who are for the most part immigrants, half of whom are women. I don't think they qualify as "crazy deplorables", just like Hillary voters aren't all "crazy libtards".


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Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:06 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
You might not care what Trump does for a better replacement for Obamacare because you're healthy...



No. I am not healthy.

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:09 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Who says I, or we, don't care? I've been deeply and personally interested in health care because of our dd's disabling condition. Which is why Obamacare was such a disappointment.

Hey, I've gone online for insurance for dd, and Obamacare is just wildly expensive. I was doubtful that Obamacare would work, but I was willing to let it play out. Now I know for sure that we need something else. Not the Paul Ryan plan.



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Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:44 PM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think you need to make a distinction between "Trump voter" versus "Trump supporter".

All of the people that I know who voted for Trump, including myself, voted for Trump on limited grounds, not because of global support for Trump or belief in all of his promises. The people that I know who voted for Trump are university-educated technical people who are for the most part immigrants, half of whom are women. I don't think they qualify as "crazy deplorables", just like Hillary voters aren't all "crazy libtards".



How do those immigrants feel now? Where are they from?

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:23 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
You're going to try to tell me Russian cuss words in Noalf? That's like speaking Klingon in Spanish :)

That is funny.

There's a name for that? I thought Jo was just a lolcat.
It doesn't help that somehow non-roman characters no longer appear.

Saghemos jos DalaDlaHamos, meanwhile, klingon in russian: https://kv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%
BD_%D0%BA%D1%8B%D0%B2


As for jo's russian, it's unrecoverable, I tried.
I think you have a secret code that can defeat ISIS.



ETA: Maybe Jo was trying to be Sscho Bliot (Blyut)= united bloc? Seems unlikely. i think the most common word in Russian is Svetlyak.



You have exposed the fact that his signature no longer carries the noalf.com address.
I had not noticed.


Ooops. I misspelled the foreign language word.
It was nooalf.com
And it is still there. The nooalf site.

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:30 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Why do you feel the need to insult people who supported Trump J0? You're being rude.



I wuz toying with the idea uv calling my campane "Shut Up Stupid!".

A big part uv how the GoPs hav gotten away with so much nonsens iz the run amok PC 'movement' attributed to liberal/progressiv/democrats.

If you cant call out blatant liez due to sum social taboo agenst anything that coud be construed az being impolite, idiots will flourish.

Trump iz proof uv that.

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:46 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
Your buddy is an engineer. He's obviously not stupid.



Titlez do not equal brainz. Degreez do not equal brainz. Money duz not equal brainz.

I'v worked with many enjineerz. Plenty uv idiots in that profession.

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Give the fucking prez a chance to do good...


Wut if he haz no intention uv doing good?

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...or to screw things up,


This iz wut you dont seem to get.

Woud you giv a meth hed the keyz to your house while you go on vacation with the 'give the guy a chans' filosofy?

OK, he screwed that up. Now he wants to captain a 1,000ft krooz ship. Youv resieved a request for a karakter referens frum Carnival Krooz Linez. Are you going to rite 'he burnt my house down, but giv him a chans.'

He will hav the livez uv hundredz uv passenjerz & crew depending on hiz disision making abilityz. How bad coud it be?

See where I'm going with this?

The 'giv him a chans' lojik duz not work for Prezident uv the United States.

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 5:54 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:Trump needs to get more self-control right now, this very day, not some months into his term.


Therez sumthing to be sed for letting him screw up.

The bigger he screwz up the faster he gets kicked out and the more damaj he duz to the GoPs.

The problem iz that he iz also damajing the country, so will getting the GoPs out uv power in the next election be worth the damaj?

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:00 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:All of the people that I know who voted for Trump, including myself, voted for Trump on limited grounds,


Bad lojik. We dont get to ajust the power setting on the Prezident.

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The people that I know who voted for Trump are university-educated technical people who are for the most part immigrants, half of whom are women.


Good evidens for my previous post. Ph.D. = piled higher & deeper. An idiot iz an idiot no matter how much info he haz packed into hiz hed.

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:03 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:
How do those immigrants feel now? Where are they from?



They feel GREAT! They are frum Russia!

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:07 PM

6STRINGJOKER


You're an idiot for voting for Hillary J0. If we're just going to be calling each other names based on nothing, than there you go.

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:08 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:Trump needs to get more self-control right now, this very day, not some months into his term.


Therez sumthing to be sed for letting him screw up.

The bigger he screwz up the faster he gets kicked out and the more damaj he duz to the GoPs.

The problem iz that he iz also damajing the country, so will getting the GoPs out uv power in the next election be worth the damaj?

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I have serious doubts that Trump is going anywhere.

You libtards keep up the drama you're just ensuring that the GOP stays in control. Keep it up. ;)

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:23 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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How do those immigrants feel now? Where are they from?-G
They're OK with Trump.

Two are from Mexico, one is from Malaysia, one is from Taiwan, and one is from mainland China plus her white hubby from Idaho. One is an eastern European immigrant, and two are first generation European immigrants.

Now, here's the kicker: Their issue was illegal immigration! Hoo boy! Did I get an earful about the immigration abuses that really piss them off!

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Bad lojik. We dont get to ajust the power setting on the Prezident.- JO
True, but if you had paid any attention at all to the last 20 times that I explained myself ... and clearly you don't think that my posts are worth your attention ... I thought that the items I had identified were far more important than the whole boatload of aggrieved victim-group issues that Hillary was bringing to the table.

So, my issues were:

1) No more free trade agreements I could not see how strapping our national sovereignty on the altar of a secret trade tribunal would benefit. I may disagree with Trump on all kinds of issues, from the environment to health care, but now those disagreements will be settled HERE, in Congress and at the state level according to our political and legal process, not by corporate lawyers guaranteeing transnational profits in some hidden conference room in Singapore.

2) Make nice with Russia. This is for OUR benefit, not theirs. If anyone has been paying any attention at all to our foreign policy, we have been provoking Russia for about the past ten years, and that policy has been bolstered by nonstop anti-Russian propaganda. All that this does in bring nuclear Armageddon closer, cost us a crap-ton of money, and put us on semi-permanent war footing which also costs us much of our civil liberties at home. What's the point?

3) End illegal immigration, which (for the corporations) brings all of the benefits of a foreign slave population without the bother of ever having to leave home. It brings down wages, prevents the USA from ever implementing an effective jobs/ economic policy, and strains all of our infrastructure, services, and resources.

Hillary and her transgender bathroom issues simply wasn't worth her negative war-mongering, pro-globalist history.

Capisce?

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:26 PM

1KIKI


They feel GREAT! They are frum Russia! Wow, Jo. Talk about making things up. And I gotta ask - what does that have to do with REAL world events?

BTW, since I also know those women, I can tell you that some are from mainland China, others mainland China via Taiwan, and some from Malaysia. They felt that since THEY had come through the system to get here legally, others should have to come the same way. They also had other ideas you probably don't imagine.

If you want, we can discuss the opinions that people who come from a different background hold, and how they are different from your assumptions.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:49 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Jo, I took the trouble to answer your post directly and in full. Next time, please don't strawman or insult.



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Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:42 AM

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In keeping with the theme “Is Trump Nuts?” some people have sensed that Trump is a megalomaniac, along with his other shining qualities.

“Trump’s image is clearly dear to him.”
www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/donald-trump-hiding-in-plai
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Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:57 AM

G

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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How do those immigrants feel now? Where are they from?-G
They're OK with Trump.
Two are from Mexico, one is from Malaysia, one is from Taiwan, and one is from mainland China plus her white hubby from Idaho. One is an eastern European immigrant, and two are first generation European immigrants.



Trump's muslim ban doesn't bother them as immigrants or as free thinking Americans? Are you their manager btw? I know when I was an employee I was not always *frank* with my employer.

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Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:01 AM

G

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Originally posted by second:
In keeping with the theme “Is Trump Nuts?” some people have sensed that Trump is a megalomaniac, along with his other shining qualities.



Priceless image for some reason I am reminded of the giant statue Caligula had made of himself. Every day some of his minions would dress it in the exact same outfit he was wearing for the day. Trump's second term maybe?

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Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:16 AM

THGRRI

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Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
In keeping with the theme “Is Trump Nuts?” some people have sensed that Trump is a megalomaniac, along with his other shining qualities.



Priceless image for some reason I am reminded of the giant statue Caligula had made of himself. Every day some of his minions would dress it in the exact same outfit he was wearing for the day. Trump's second term maybe?



Oh god oh god.

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Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:06 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Trump's muslim ban doesn't bother them as immigrants or as free thinking Americans? -G
Apparently not!

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Are you their manager btw? I know when I was an employee I was not always *frank* with my employer.
No. none of them work for me. I tend not to discuss politics with my staff, even if they try a rope me into it.



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Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:38 AM

G

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Trump's muslim ban doesn't bother them as immigrants or as free thinking Americans? -G
Apparently not!



They're fine with people being banned from this country based on their religion and country of origin? And even if the stated reason is provably, quantifiably inaccurate?

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Sunday, March 12, 2017 2:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Trump's muslim ban doesn't bother them as immigrants or as free thinking Americans? -G

Apparently not! - SIGNY

They're fine with people being banned from this country based on their religion and country of origin? And even if the stated reason is provably, quantifiably inaccurate?- G



Yes. They haven't given me their reasons, but I assume that its because they feel it doesn't affect them because they're not from the subject nations.

However, I once again disagree with your inaccurate characterization of the visa restrictions.



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Monday, March 13, 2017 8:03 AM

JO753

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Sorry if I havent replied with much substans over the last few daze. Bizzy with too much stuff.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, my issues were:

1) No more free trade agreements



Hav you read the TPP? I havent. I hear alot uv scorn, but no detailz on why its bad. I think NAFTA soured everybody on trade dealz for the forseeable future.

A better idea iz to regulate companyz that do international biz, such az requiring them to pay forin workerz at least haf uv wut American equivelents get.

Even tho it meanz higher prisez on sum stuff, it either makes it cheaper to keep jobz here or creates more customerz around the world.

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2) Make nice with Russia. This is for OUR benefit, not theirs.


Soooo... Let Putin do wutever he wants in other countryz?

Duznt sound like such a good stratejy for dealing with a bad guy. Hiz type ALWAYZ goez az far az you allow them. If he believed the US woudnt interfere
he woud restore the Soviet Union 1 nation at a time.

I agree that being on good termz iz better, but it cant be at the expens uv other countryz.

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3) End illegal immigration,


Its not like Hillary wuz calling for the border with Mexico to be dizzolved, so you essentially voted for the construction uv a wall that any competent arkitekt will estimate at 25,000,000,000 American dollarez minimum.

A big differens between Hillary and Donald iz competens for the job. Trump haz zero, Hillary haz decadez worth uv direct experiens.

Say wut you want about her polisyz (az perseived) but we coud hav depended on her to at least know wut the hell the job iz.


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Monday, March 13, 2017 8:10 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
They feel GREAT! They are frum Russia! Wow, Jo. Talk about making things up. And I gotta ask - what does that have to do with REAL world events?



Wu?! I cant toss in a joke now & then?

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Monday, March 13, 2017 8:37 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Sorry if I havent replied with much substans over the last few daze. Bizzy with too much stuff. - JO

So, my issues were:
1) No more free trade agreements- SIGNY

Hav you read the TPP?

No, and not the TTIP either but that's because they've kept it a secret. However, whistleblowers from inside have LEAKED relevant portions, and the most relevant portion is the part where transnational businesses could take governments to arbitration for interfering with "usual and expected" profits, and that the disputes would be decided by a tribunal of trade lawyers, not in any national court. I even posted an example of what that would look like, as when Phillip Morris, the tobacco company, filed a complaint against Australia under a bilateral trade deal with Hong Kong for its "plain packaging/ graphic health warning" tobacco laws which would have reduced "usual and expected profits" and how this was decided by a private trade tribunal. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/dec/18/australia-wins-
international-legal-battle-with-philip-morris-over-plain-packaging


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I havent. I hear alot uv scorn, but no detailz on why its bad.
Well now you know more than you did before.

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I think NAFTA soured everybody on trade dealz for the forseeable future.
NAFTA has a lot of problems, mostly economic, on BOTH ends of any trade. But the TTP and TTIP added a whole new wrinkle by eliminating a nation's ability to enforce environmental, work, or product safety regulations according to its own laws, by having the decision made by a non-government arbitration panel, with NO governmental oversight or review.

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A better idea iz to regulate companyz that do international biz, such az requiring them to pay forin workerz at least haf uv wut American equivelents get. -JO
How do you enforce that? The only way is by charging a tax-on-entry.

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Even tho it meanz higher prisez on sum stuff, it either makes it cheaper to keep jobz here or creates more customerz around the world. -JO

2) Make nice with Russia. This is for OUR benefit, not theirs.- SIGNY

Soooo... Let Putin do wutever he wants in other countryz? - JO

No. Just end our aggressive actions.

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Duznt sound like such a good stratejy for dealing with a bad guy. Hiz type ALWAYZ goez az far az you allow them. If he believed the US woudnt interfere
he woud restore the Soviet Union 1 nation at a time. - JO

JO .... WHO has killed more people and destroyed more nations in the past 20 years or so? Us? Or Russia?

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I agree that being on good termz iz better, but it cant be at the expens uv other countryz.- JO
If they're so afraid of Russia, how about they look towards their own defense? It's not like they can't form their own alliances.

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3) End illegal immigration,- SIGNY

Its not like Hillary wuz calling for the border with Mexico to be dizzolved, so you essentially voted for the construction uv a wall that any competent arkitekt will estimate at 25,000,000,000 American dollarez minimum.

Also, increasing ICE and Border Patrol staffing, enforcing our immigration laws, improving visa-holder tracking, and ending or reducing H1B-style visa issuances.

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A big differens between Hillary and Donald iz competens for the job. Trump haz zero, Hillary haz decadez worth uv direct experiens. =JP
Yes, she has decades of experience being a Saudi-promoting, war-mongering, corrupt globalist bitch. Who wants "experience" like THAT?

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Say wut you want about her polisyz (az perseived) but we coud hav depended on her to at least know wut the hell the job iz. - JO
But could we have depended in her to REPRESENT OUR INTERESTS? I say "no". In fact, I think she was ready to stab us all in the back to satisfy her REAL support group, which wasn't us. She was ready for the TTP and the TTIP on behalf of the transnationals. Ready for direct war in Syria on behalf of Saudi Arabia, which would have brought us into direct conflict with Russia per the wishes of neocon nut-cases like John McCain and Brennan. Ready to continue coddling illegal immigrants, on behalf of the corporations, and ready to keep pandering to the banks. And ready to keep hemorrhaging health insurance and tax money into big pharma.

Hey. with an agenda like that what's not to like??? [/snark]





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Monday, March 13, 2017 8:54 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


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Originally posted by JO753:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
They feel GREAT! They are frum Russia! Wow, Jo. Talk about making things up. And I gotta ask - what does that have to do with REAL world events?



Wu?! I cant toss in a joke now & then?




Jo, can't you read?!? "No Jokes about Russia!!! Ever!!!"

Heh - sometimes you have to know your audience.

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Monday, March 13, 2017 8:55 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Sorry if I havent replied with much substans over the last few daze. Bizzy with too much stuff.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, my issues were:

1) No more free trade agreements



Hav you read the TPP? I havent. I hear alot uv scorn, but no detailz on why its bad. I think NAFTA soured everybody on trade dealz for the forseeable future.

A better idea iz to regulate companyz that do international biz, such az requiring them to pay forin workerz at least haf uv wut American equivelents get.

Even tho it meanz higher prisez on sum stuff, it either makes it cheaper to keep jobz here or creates more customerz around the world.

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2) Make nice with Russia. This is for OUR benefit, not theirs.


Soooo... Let Putin do wutever he wants in other countryz?

Duznt sound like such a good stratejy for dealing with a bad guy. Hiz type ALWAYZ goez az far az you allow them. If he believed the US woudnt interfere
he woud restore the Soviet Union 1 nation at a time.

I agree that being on good termz iz better, but it cant be at the expens uv other countryz.

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3) End illegal immigration,


Its not like Hillary wuz calling for the border with Mexico to be dizzolved, so you essentially voted for the construction uv a wall that any competent arkitekt will estimate at 25,000,000,000 American dollarez minimum.

A big differens between Hillary and Donald iz competens for the job. Trump haz zero, Hillary haz decadez worth uv direct experiens.

Say wut you want about her polisyz (az perseived) but we coud hav depended on her to at least know wut the hell the job iz.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Trump's muslim ban doesn't bother them as immigrants or as free thinking Americans? -G
Apparently not!

Reporters laughed at the absurdity of the answer and the absurdity of the overall situation. That said, it’s a pretty good indicator of how much Trump has succeeded in lowering the bar in terms of standards of conduct.
www.vox.com/2017/3/10/14887006/sean-spicer-jobs-report

Trump has already claimed that Barack Obama left him an economy in a "mess"; that Obama is probably behind all the protests and leaks; and that Obama had him wiretapped during the campaign. Now along comes yet another ugly accusation, trivially proved false, which brings up the question: “Is Trump Nuts?” or the companion question: “Are Trump’s people nuts?”
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/03/trump-omb-director-claims-obama
-manipulated-unemployment-figures


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Monday, March 13, 2017 10:02 AM

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Man Without an ISIS Plan


On the campaign trail, no foreign policy issue seized Donald Trump more than the fight against the Islamic State. Once president, he signed an executive order giving his generals 30 days to produce a plan to defeat the terrorist group, and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis gave him options on Feb. 27.

Yet if Mr. Trump has decided on a new plan for defeating ISIS, it isn’t obvious. The missions underway in Iraq and Syria were set in motion by President Barack Obama. While they have achieved some tactical successes, they point to a deepening American military involvement in both countries. The question now is whether Mr. Trump will continue, or accelerate, that trend.


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Monday, March 13, 2017 1:14 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Has no one thought that Trump's tweets might be deliberate red herrings? Heck, look at the reward: For a mere 140 characters, or less, he gets people squawking and losing feathers for days!



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Monday, March 13, 2017 2:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Has no one thought that Trump's tweets might be deliberate red herrings? Heck, look at the reward: For a mere 140 characters, or less, he gets people squawking and losing feathers for days!




As president there is a price to pay and he is paying it. Which is why you are stuck defending him so much.

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Monday, March 13, 2017 7:44 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
As president there is a price to pay and he is paying it. Which is why you are stuck defending him so much.



Ain't it the truth?
He acts like a brat ... and I think he's a brat.




... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

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Monday, March 13, 2017 8:57 PM

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Hillary was for allowing all but violent criminals to stay indefinitely, and for magically turning illegal immigrants into citizens.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-stance-on-immigration
-is-a-major-break-from-obama/2016/03/10/6388a1f8-e700-11e5-a6f3-21ccdbc5f74e_story.html?utm_term=.0e0ed4897948

Hillary Clinton’s pledge not to deport any illegal immigrants except violent criminals and terrorists represents a major break from President Obama, and it could vastly increase the number of people who would be allowed to stay in the country.

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https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/immigration-reform/
As president, Hillary will:
Introduce comprehensive immigration reform. Hillary will introduce comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to full and equal citizenship within her first 100 days in office.

And while we'll never know what might have happened under Hillary, under Donald
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http://ktla.com/2017/03/09/illegal-border-crossings-down-40-percent-in
-february-dhs-secretary-says
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Illegal Border Crossings Down 40 Percent in February, CBP Report Says

If you believe ILLEGAL immigration is a problem, Trump might be crazy like a fox.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, March 13, 2017 10:30 PM

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rezident owtsidr


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:No, and not the TTIP either but that's because they've kept it a secret.


seeekrrriiiittt! https://ustr.gov/ttip

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NAFTA has a lot of problems, mostly economic, on BOTH ends of any trade.


Take away all the partisan noize and you can see the real bad guy.

Big corporationz, especially oil, hav been raping & pilajing forever, long befor NAFTA. Capitalizm haz a dark side - its alwayz trying to get away with sum sort uv cheat. Its like this iz wut they teach in bizness skool! Any agreements the gummit kumz up with, they will find wayz to cheat.

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A better idea iz to regulate companyz that do international biz, such az requiring them to pay forin workerz at least haf uv wut American equivelents get. -JO
How do you enforce that?



The simpl way iz to require all payroll recordz to be submitted along with their inkum tax filingz. Naturally, if they are dealing with forin vendorz, it gets much more complicated.

Wut they wont be able to do iz set up a bogus company thats really owned by them.

Even tho forin vendorz will seem like a way to bypass this at first, not all companyz will be able to get wut they need, so wajez will be forsed up.

Read the Financial and Pay & Work pajez on my site.

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JO .... WHO has killed more people and destroyed more nations in the past 20 years or so? Us? Or Russia?


US. And yet we are still sumhow the good guyz!

A useful way uv looking at it iz that Goverment iz a mob. All goverments. It haz to be the most powerful mob in its own land and it helps if its the most powerful in its rejun. In the case uv the US, Russia and China, that rejun iz the entire planet.

A mob that lets it's rivalz expand or increase their power in any way without at least keeping close attention iz doomed. If therez a way to keep a rival from getting stronger, it iz foolish to not uze it.

Its a very simplistic perspectiv, but it haz to be incorporated into any stratejy or plan, even wen you are co-operating with a rival.

Obviously, the ultimate stratejy iz to turn your rivalz into your frendz.

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If they're so afraid of Russia, how about they look towards their own defense? It's not like they can't form their own alliances.


Seriously bad plan frum the US perspectiv. Seriously bad for the entire world. The only beneficiaryz woud be the armz manufacturerz.

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Also, increasing ICE and Border Patrol staffing, enforcing our immigration laws, improving visa-holder tracking, and ending or reducing H1B-style visa issuances.


The immigration system iz krap. Total krap. The GoPs blocked Obama frum fixing it and you want to blame Hillary?

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Yes, she has decades of experience being a Saudi-promoting, war-mongering, corrupt globalist bitch. Who wants "experience" like THAT?


You like to pin everything bad that you can think uv on Hillary and uze it az an excuse for voting for Trump. You dont seem to hav a good handl on how important the job uv Prezident iz and how rediculously unqualified he iz for it.

Dont forget the title uv this topic and that the ansr iz YES!


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Originally posted by JO753:

US. And yet we are still sumhow the good guyz!

Trump is destroying like crazy any global moral high ground the US had left.

Let’s just look at what happened on Monday (March 13). More details are at https://qz.com/931421

1) Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner parked his ownership stake in 666 Fifth Avenue—a luxury building in Manhattan—in a trust managed by his mother, Seryl Beth Kushner. That trust could soon be $400 million richer, Bloomberg reported on Monday, thanks to what’s been called a “sweetheart deal” with Chinese Communist Party-linked firm Anbang Insurance Group, that excuses a mountain of debt while valuing the stake aggressively. The deal also leaves the impression that the Kushners are profiting from their proximity to the White House, and raises questions about what the Trump administration may owe Anbang, and potentially the Communist Party, in return.

2) That’s not all. Foreign Policy reported on March 13 that the White House plans to reduce by 50% its contributions to the United Nations, pulling billions of dollars away from funding of global endeavors ranging from peacekeeping to vaccinations to caring for refugees. And a US government agency said the same day that a Trump-backed bill to replace his predecessor’s landmark health care act would leave 24 million uninsured, while raising premiums by 24%.

3) Meanwhile, asked for Trump’s reaction to US congressman Steve King’s recent racist remarks, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said he’d have to “get back to” reporters after checking with the president—leaving the impression that Trump doesn’t denounce them outright.

4) And Canada’s “Girl Guides,” the female scouting group, said it would suspend all field trips to the US, out of concern that some members might be stopped by US immigration, thanks to Trump's not sanely worded executive order.

Today’s events are just par for the course. But they’re a clear reminder of just how much things have changed in America in less than two months.
https://qz.com/931421

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Hillary was for allowing all but violent criminals to stay indefinitely, and for magically turning illegal immigrants into citizens.

Quote:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-stance-on-immigration
-is-a-major-break-from-obama/2016/03/10/6388a1f8-e700-11e5-a6f3-21ccdbc5f74e_story.html?utm_term=.0e0ed4897948

Hillary Clinton’s pledge not to deport any illegal immigrants except violent criminals and terrorists represents a major break from President Obama, and it could vastly increase the number of people who would be allowed to stay in the country.

Quote:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/immigration-reform/
As president, Hillary will:
Introduce comprehensive immigration reform. Hillary will introduce comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to full and equal citizenship within her first 100 days in office.

And while we'll never know what might have happened under Hillary, under Donald
Quote:

http://ktla.com/2017/03/09/illegal-border-crossings-down-40-percent-in
-february-dhs-secretary-says
/
Illegal Border Crossings Down 40 Percent in February, CBP Report Says

If you believe ILLEGAL immigration is a problem, Trump might be crazy like a fox.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?


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Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:35 AM

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It woud take a lot uv illegal immigrants with bad intentionz many yirz to do the damaj Putin can do in a few fone callz.

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Tuesday, March 14, 2017 2:50 AM

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Originally posted by JO753:
It woud take a lot uv illegal immigrants with bad intentionz many yirz to do the damaj Putin can do in a few fone callz.



If that's true, why hasn't he done it already?

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Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:00 AM

JO753

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How do you know he haznt?

Youv herd wuts going on at the State Department I assume. Then therez the firing uv Preet Barara with odd serkumstansez.

I dont think Putin haz needed to make any callz yet, sins Trump took over anyway. Trump haz hiz instructionz. But there will be more.

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Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:26 AM

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lol wow. That's a scary world you live in there J0.

When exactly did this shift happen? I notice all of the sudden it's progressive to believe in conspiracy theories. (at least ones that are against their side).


Almost 20 years ago I was telling my friends that the government had the capability to record every one of our phone conversations. I didn't say that they were listening to them, because that would be impossible, but they could store them to listen to later if they ever decided they had a reason to want to. They called me crazy. That was just one of many things that have since been proven to actually be happening, and nobody really cares.



Hey. Maybe you're absolutely right. I'm afraid if you are than it's already too late though. If Trump is that compromised where he's got Putin's hand that deep up his ass than there are many others out there that are also compromised by Russian interests and removing Trump isn't going to change anything.

I suggest that if that happens, and you're proven to be correct, that you keep investigating and don't back down for a second when the Left and the MSM throws their ticker tape parade and forgets all about it.

And don't only look at Republicans. I'm sure if this is actually happening there are quite a few Democratic leaders that are compromised as well.

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If you believe ILLEGAL immigration is a problem, Trump might be crazy like a fox.

If illegal aliens will be deported, Trump needs a plan that makes sense and money from Congress to fuel his plan.

But I have seen no instances where Trump recognized sensible plans or budgets. For example: Trump endorsed and promoted a health insurance plan that does none of the things he said it ought to do. Is Trump crazy or just incompetent? He had plenty of warning, but Trump paid no attention to what his own staff was telling him, which is NOT "crazy like a fox". www.politico.com/story/2017/03/obamacare-uninsured-white-house-236019 The explanations coming from the White House are asinine about CBO's and Office of Management and Budget's estimates.

I know that even capable Presidents do not do most of the planning and budgeting themselves, but Trump proves every workday how he misunderstands the difference between work done well and done poorly. VP Pence can tell the difference, but he is not President so he can’t until Trump goes to the lunatic asylum.


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