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Thursday, April 27, 2017 6:01 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I found this online.

https://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test

I've taken tests like this before (No, GSTRING, not as any sort of "intake" procedure. After this I was tapped for am advanced position, but family responsibilities prevented me from taking on a 60 hour/week job.) and certain aspects of my personality have been remarkably stable over the decades.

It didn't tell me anything that I didn't know already about myself, but explains why I post the way I do. According to my test results, I'm a harsh logician. A VERY harsh logician. It's far more important for me to follow a bunny-trail of logic than being "nice".

Here are some details of my results:

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Introverted/Extroverted 96%/4%

Intuitive/ Observant 54/46

Thinking/ feeling 75/25

Judging/Prospecting 46/53

Assertive/Turbulent 25/75

Logician Personality (INTP, -A/-T)

Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.

The Logician personality type is fairly rare, making up only three percent of the population, which is definitely a good thing for them, as there’s nothing they’d be more unhappy about than being “common”. Logicians pride themselves on their inventiveness and creativity, their unique perspective and vigorous intellect. Usually known as the philosopher, the architect, or the dreamy professor, Logicians have been responsible for many scientific discoveries throughout history.

The Unexamined Life Is Not Worth Living
Logicians are known for their brilliant theories and unrelenting logic – in fact, they are considered the most logically precise of all the personality types.

They love patterns, and spotting discrepancies between statements could almost be described as a hobby, making it a bad idea to lie to a Logician. This makes it ironic that Logicians’ word should always be taken with a grain of salt – it’s not that they are dishonest, but people with the Logician personality type tend to share thoughts that are not fully developed, using others as a sounding board for ideas and theories in a debate against themselves rather than as actual conversation partners.

This may make them appear unreliable, but in reality no one is more enthusiastic and capable of spotting a problem, drilling through the endless factors and details that encompass the issue and developing a unique and viable solution than Logicians – just don’t expect punctual progress reports. People who share the Logician personality type aren’t interested in practical, day-to-day activities and maintenance, but when they find an environment where their creative genius and potential can be expressed, there is no limit to the time and energy Logicians will expend in developing an insightful and unbiased solution.

They may appear to drift about in an unending daydream

Errr... not quite. I have a lot of responsibilities which don't allow me to indulge. Here is where I think out loud.
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but Logicians’ thought process is unceasing, and their minds buzz with ideas from the moment they wake up. This constant thinking can have the effect of making them look pensive and detached, as they are often conducting full-fledged debates in their own heads, but really Logicians are quite relaxed and friendly when they are with people they know, or who share their interests. However, this can be replaced by overwhelming shyness when Logician personalities are among unfamiliar faces, and friendly banter can quickly become combative if they believe their logical conclusions or theories are being criticized.

When Logicians are particularly excited, the conversation can border on incoherence as they try to explain the daisy-chain of logical conclusions that led to the format

https://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-testion of their latest idea. Oftentimes, Logicians will opt to simply move on from a topic before it’s ever understood what they were trying to say, rather than try to lay things out in plain terms.

The reverse can also be true when people explain their thought processes to Logicians in terms of subjectivity and feeling. Imagine an immensely complicated clockwork, taking in every fact and idea possible, processing them with a heavy dose of creative reasoning and returning the most logically sound results available – this is how the Logician mind works, and this type has little tolerance for an emotional monkey-wrench jamming their machines.

Further, Logicians are unlikely to understand emotional complaints at all, and their friends won’t find a bedrock of emotional support in them. People with the Logician personality type would much rather make a series of logical suggestions for how to resolve the underlying issue, a perspective that is not always welcomed by their more sensitive companions. This will likely extend to most social conventions and goals as well, like planning dinners and getting married, as Logicians are far more concerned with originality and efficient results.

The one thing that really holds Logicians back is their restless and pervasive fear of failure. Logician personalities are so prone to reassessing their own thoughts and theories, worrying that they’ve missed some critical piece of the puzzle, that they can stagnate, lost in an intangible world where their thoughts are never truly applied. Overcoming this self-doubt stands as the greatest challenge Logicians are likely to face, but the intellectual gifts – big and small – bestowed on the world when they do makes it worth the fight.



I think this explains complaints about me. DT said I was "heartless troll". In my view, being "heartless" is a benefit, since what we WANT almost always obscures WHAT IS. People think that Spock-like characters would always be inoffensive, but when cherished beliefs ... beliefs necessary for emotional stability and reassurance ... are challenged by evidence and logical reasoning, that can be EXTREMELY OFFENSIVE.

It also explains why my posts about the energetics of societies, or the similarities between societies and biological organisms, or "efficiency versus robustness", even defining "America's" interests (starting with "What is America?") don't get many responses. I may as well be talking about non-linear/ stochastic behavior of propulsive flame fronts ("rocket science") or some such. Most people really aren't interested. Perhaps I should take these ideas elsewhere.

In my experience, these different approaches often result in miscommunication.

Anyway. I've found these tests were interesting, and may explain why "we" do what "we" do, even more than the "political spectrum" tests which are sometimes posted here as well. If you take this test, I hope you find the results insightful. Or at least funny.

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Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:44 AM

6STRINGJOKER


I think the website gives an overly romanticized summary of it all, but it's almost scary how on the money they are with both the strengths and weaknesses portion of it.

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Introverted/Extroverted 84%/16%

Intuitive/ Observant 61/39

Thinking/ feeling 59/41

Judging/Prospecting 60/40

Assertive/Turbulent 41/59

Architect Personality (INTJ, -A/-T)


It’s lonely at the top, and being one of the rarest and most strategically capable personality types, Architects know this all too well. Architects form just two percent of the population, and women of this personality type are especially rare, forming just 0.8% of the population – it is often a challenge for them to find like-minded individuals who are able to keep up with their relentless intellectualism and chess-like maneuvering. People with the Architect personality type are imaginative yet decisive, ambitious yet private, amazingly curious, but they do not squander their energy.
Nothing Can Stop the Right Attitude From Achieving Its Goal

With a natural thirst for knowledge that shows itself early in life, Architects are often given the title of “bookworm” as children. While this may be intended as an insult by their peers, they more than likely identify with it and are even proud of it, greatly enjoying their broad and deep body of knowledge. Architects enjoy sharing what they know as well, confident in their mastery of their chosen subjects, but they prefer to design and execute a brilliant plan within their field rather than share opinions on “uninteresting” distractions like gossip.

“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.”
Harlan Ellison

A paradox to most observers, Architects are able to live by glaring contradictions that nonetheless make perfect sense – at least from a purely rational perspective. For example, Architects are simultaneously the most starry-eyed idealists and the bitterest of cynics, a seemingly impossible conflict. But this is because Architect personalities tend to believe that with effort, intelligence and consideration, nothing is impossible, while at the same time they believe that people are too lazy, short-sighted or self-serving to actually achieve those fantastic results. Yet that cynical view of reality is unlikely to stop an interested Architect from achieving a result they believe to be relevant.

In Matters Of Principle, Stand Like a Rock

Architects radiate self-confidence and an aura of mystery, and their insightful observations, original ideas and formidable logic enable them to push change through with sheer willpower and force of personality. At times it will seem that Architects are bent on deconstructing and rebuilding every idea and system they come into contact with, employing a sense of perfectionism and even morality to this work. Anyone who doesn’t have the talent to keep up with Architects’ processes, or worse yet, doesn’t see the point of them, is likely to immediately and permanently lose their respect.
Rules, limitations and traditions are anathema to the Architect personality type – everything should be open to questioning and reevaluation, and if they see a way, Architects will often act unilaterally to enact their technically superior, sometimes insensitive, and almost always unorthodox methods and ideas.

This isn’t to be misunderstood as impulsiveness – Architects will strive to remain rational no matter how attractive the end goal may be, and every idea, whether generated internally or soaked in from the outside world, must pass the ruthless and ever-present “Is this going to work?” filter. This mechanism is applied at all times, to all things and all people, and this is often where Architect personalities run into trouble.
One Reflects More When Traveling Alone

Architects are brilliant and confident in bodies of knowledge they have taken the time to understand, but unfortunately the social contract is unlikely to be one of those subjects. White lies and small talk are hard enough as it is for a type that craves truth and depth, but Architects may go so far as to see many social conventions as downright stupid. Ironically, it is often best for them to remain where they are comfortable – out of the spotlight – where the natural confidence prevalent in Architects as they work with the familiar can serve as its own beacon, attracting people, romantically or otherwise, of similar temperament and interests.

Architects are defined by their tendency to move through life as though it were a giant chess board, pieces constantly shifting with consideration and intelligence, always assessing new tactics, strategies and contingency plans, constantly outmaneuvering their peers in order to maintain control of a situation while maximizing their freedom to move about. This isn’t meant to suggest that Architects act without conscience, but to many other types, Architects’ distaste for acting on emotion can make it seem that way, and it explains why many fictional villains (and misunderstood heroes) are modeled on this personality type.

STRENGTHS:


Quick, Imaginative and Strategic Mind – Architects pride themselves on their minds, taking every opportunity to improve their knowledge, and this shows in the strength and flexibility of their strategic thinking. Insatiably curious and always up for an intellectual challenge, Architects can see things from many perspectives. Architects use their creativity and imagination not so much for artistry, but for planning contingencies and courses of action for all possible scenarios.
High Self-Confidence – Architects trust their rationalism above all else, so when they come to a conclusion, they have no reason to doubt their findings. This creates an honest, direct style of communication that isn’t held back by perceived social roles or expectations. When Architects are right, they’re right, and no amount of politicking or hand-holding is going to change that fact – whether it’s correcting a person, a process, or themselves, they’d have it no other way.
Independent and Decisive – This creativity, logic and confidence come together to form individuals who stand on their own and take responsibility for their own actions. Authority figures do not impress Architects, nor do social conventions or tradition, and no matter how popular something is, if they have a better idea, Architects will stand against anyone they have to in a bid to have it changed. Either an idea is the most rational or it’s wrong, and Architects will apply this to their arguments as well as their own behavior, staying calm and detached from these sometimes emotionally charged conflicts. Architects will only be swayed by those who follow suit.
Hard-working and determined – If something piques their interest, Architects can be astonishingly dedicated to their work, putting in long hours and intense effort to see an idea through. Architects are incredibly efficient, and if tasks meet the criteria of furthering a goal, they will find a way to consolidate and accomplish those tasks. However, this drive for efficiency can also lead to a sort of elaborate laziness, wherein Architects find ways to bypass seeming redundancies which don’t seem to require a great deal of thought – this can be risky, as sometimes double-checking one’s work is the standard for a reason.
Open-minded – All this rationalism leads to a very intellectually receptive personality type, as Architects stay open to new ideas, supported by logic, even if (and sometimes especially if) they prove Architects’ previous conceptions wrong. When presented with unfamiliar territory, such as alternate lifestyles, Architects tend to apply their receptiveness and independence, and aversion to rules and traditions, to these new ideas as well, resulting in fairly liberal social senses.
Jacks-of-all-Trades – Architects’ open-mindedness, determination, independence, confidence and strategic abilities create individuals who are capable of doing anything they set their minds to. Excelling at analyzing anything life throws their way, Architects are able to reverse-engineer the underlying methodology of almost any system and apply the concepts that are exposed wherever needed. Architects tend to have their pick of professions, from IT system designers to political masterminds.


WEAKNESSES:


Arrogant – Architects are perfectly capable of carrying their confidence too far, falsely believing that they’ve resolved all the pertinent issues of a matter and closing themselves off to the opinions of those they believe to be intellectually inferior. Combined with their irreverence for social conventions, Architects can be brutally insensitive in making their opinions of others all too clear.
Judgmental – Architects tend to have complete confidence in their thought process, because rational arguments are almost by definition correct – at least in theory. In practice, emotional considerations and history are hugely influential, and a weak point for Architects is that they brand these factors and those who embrace them as illogical, dismissing them and considering their proponents to be stuck in some baser mode of thought, making it all but impossible to be heard.
Overly analytical – A recurring theme with Architects is their analytical prowess, but this strength can fall painfully short where logic doesn’t rule – such as with human relationships. When their critical minds and sometimes neurotic level of perfectionism (often the case with Turbulent Architects) are applied to other people, all but the steadiest of friends will likely need to make some distance, too often permanently.
Loathe highly structured environments – Blindly following precedents and rules without understanding them is distasteful to Architects, and they disdain even more authority figures who blindly uphold those laws and rules without understanding their intent. Anyone who prefers the status quo for its own sake, or who values stability and safety over self-determination, is likely to clash with Architect personality types. Whether it’s the law of the land or simple social convention, this aversion applies equally, often making life more difficult than it needs to be.
Clueless in romance – This antipathy to rules and tendency to over-analyze and be judgmental, even arrogant, all adds up to a personality type that is often clueless in dating. Having a new relationship last long enough for Architects to apply the full force of their analysis on their potential partner’s thought processes and behaviors can be challenging. Trying harder in the ways that Architects know best can only make things worse, and it’s unfortunately common for them to simply give up the search. Ironically, this is when they’re at their best, and most likely to attract a partner.


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Thursday, April 27, 2017 10:43 AM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


I wonder why anyone would believe the results of a Myers-Briggs test in this day and age, but sadly way too many do.
There have been multiple studies done that show the test is completely inaccurate, and 75% of the people who take it come up with completely different results on retaking the test in a few weeks. The tests not only fail at identifying a personality, they fail basic reliability and validity standards. And really, there are only 16 different personality types in a world with ~7.5 billion people on it?

One should read Annie Murphy Paul’s book on “The Cult of Personality Testing” and how such tests are being used by schools, career counselors and corporations and not just labelling people, but stereotyping them and in too many instances ruining people’s lives and careers.

And as for taking an on-line version that is not only simplistic but worse, encourages the taker to buy the full results, I'd suspect the motivation is not specifically focused at identifying a personality.

While it may be amusing to take such tests (if one is really bored), it has as much validity identifying a personality type as taking the “Which Muppet are you” personality test.

http://www.zimbio.com/quiz/lhWkmotA2cm/Which+Muppet+Are+You

Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

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Thursday, April 27, 2017 1:01 PM

6STRINGJOKER




Scooter's probably an Architect Personality.

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Thursday, April 27, 2017 1:15 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Curiously, I was given a somewhat different personality test about 30 years ago, and got very similar results. The thing that I almost pegged the meter on both times was introversion. That is, according to many studies, a person's most stable personality trait, demonstrated from babyhood onward.

I think other posters in this forum would tend to agree a whole lot with the results of MY test. I DO tend to "think out loud" here. I don't worry a whole lot how people feel about things.

But what this test doesn't tell me is how good I am at being "logical". Maybe I don't visualize well and therefore can't see patterns. Maybe my memory is so fuzzy that I can't access enough detailed data. Maybe I'm not good enough at suppressing my hopes and fears. There could be all kinds of reasons why that might happen.

And of course, given that I'm a chemist by training and that I like to cook I'm ...



That was fun! But totally expected!

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Monday, May 1, 2017 3:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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There have been multiple studies done that show the test is completely inaccurate, and 75% of the people who take it come up with completely different results on retaking the test in a few weeks.
A link or two would be nice. Thanks.

I also have taken that test more than once - in my early 20's, mid 30's, and decades later, and gotten similar results over time.

Of the different categories, introversion/ extroversion are stable in real life over time.

When it comes to other ways to measure personality, extroversion and conscientiousness were more stable over decades, whereas agreeableness, openness, and neuroticism were not. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2247365/

Other studies indicate that the secret to a long, successful life is conscientiousness. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2691806/

If conscientiousness is a stable enough trait to influence lifespan, then two traits - introversion/ extroversion and conscientiousness are stable traits that might represent something fundamental in people.






Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:25 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I see there are no linkies in answer to your request, KIKI.



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THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Wednesday, May 3, 2017 5:56 PM

BYTEMITE


Okay, I can't let that one fly. So I logged in despite some interpersonal awkwardness and even though something weird has happened with the security encryption of the login around here.

Personality tests are about as accurate as Chinese Astrology, and I should know because I used to do Chinese Astrology readings for fun. It's all a combination of having a few varied different possibilities to account for actual population variation and weighed to the interests of the user, then throwing a boatload of generalized ideas that taken together sound like a possible actual description of the whole of a person's personality, when really maybe only a few things actually fit.

I did Chinese Astrology readings because, if you recognize that aspect of them, it can allow you to have various insights on yourself and behaviours based on how you read them from day to day and your emotional states. Some days you're more like an ESTP, Some days you're more like an INFJ. That's just how it goes.

I'm not saying they can't be useful, but definite grain of salt here. A lot of these online quizzes are outright scams, promising people that based on a brief fifty question test they can unscrew people's lives and offer secret information about how they tick. I would not even support one of these sites with a click count to keep them operating. For me a conversation about the validity of personality quizzes is as personally frustrating as if I heard someone talking about how great Amway is.

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02686623
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pr0.1985.57.2.367

If your test results told you that you guys weren't scientists or told you that you weren't logical thinkers, would you believe them? (I sure wouldn't because you are, but hey, that happens to me every time I take one of these tests. I find them very flawed, and it is my understanding that a significant amount of research supports my position)

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Wednesday, May 3, 2017 6:02 PM

THGRRI


Nice to see ya BYTEMITE






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Wednesday, May 3, 2017 6:06 PM

WISHIMAY




Also, assertive introverted Logician.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2017 6:08 PM

BYTEMITE


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Nice to see ya BYTEMITE





Good to see you too, as well as the rest of you. Sorry if I was a bit abrupt there with what I think about personality tests. But it's what I think and what I've read.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2017 6:20 PM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Sorry if I was a bit abrupt there with what I think



The last few times you've been here you apologize for something. No one else here does, why are you? Never apologize for what you think as long as it's honest...

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Wednesday, May 3, 2017 6:22 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Nice to see ya BYTEMITE





Good to see you too, as well as the rest of you. Sorry if I was a bit abrupt there with what I think about personality tests. But it's what I think and what I've read.



I didn't weigh in because SIG and 1kiki are always pushing what's incorrect. I completely agree with you. I only posted here to say hello.

P.S. If you think your post was a bit abrupt, you're being way to hard on yourself. I thought you were very cordial.






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Thursday, May 4, 2017 6:07 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


As I gather, validity depends on the test itself. I know that many tests repeat some of the same question more than twice, in both positive and negative modes, to see how consistent you are with that answer. And it's always possible to screw with the results, especially if you're bright and have a grotch against tests!

Anyway, I would never suggest that anyone actually PAY for the "full results" of this test. But it was fun. When part of the lab took it, we were all almost completely the same type- or nearly the same type - with one exception. This guy stuck out like sore thumb IRL and virtually. We had a great time comparing results and laughing about it.

Good grief, people. Lighten up!


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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Friday, May 5, 2017 8:07 AM

6STRINGJOKER


I think the tests are pretty accurate, although I agree that depending on your mood from week to week you might be different enough to put yourself in another category. But unless you're a really unstable person I don't think the results would put you in a category that wasn't adjacent and extremely similar. The test probably shouldn't be used for any serious things like career building, at least not on its own merits. I think they are pretty good baselines though.

I know it wasn't really a joke about taking the Muppet personality test, but is it really any surprise that people who took both tests ended up with strikingly similar results?

Yes, I do believe that with a world population of 7 billion people you could theoretically fit them into about 16 different categories, so long as they aren't absolutes.


How do you think con-men make a living? If everybody was really an individual and you couldn't predict their actions, they'd all be out of business because they'd never know what anybody was going to do next. They don't use tests like these to determine personality traits, but I'd imagine they have tests of their own they perform and any of the successful ones know within a few minutes who is a good mark and who they should steer clear of.

Sad but true... but for the most part, we really are that predictable.

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Friday, May 5, 2017 9:44 PM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
A link or two would be nice. Thanks.



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I see there are no linkies in answer to your request, KIKI.



I gave you the author and title of the book that includes her references to studies by the APA, National Sciences, a number of University psychiatric and psychological professors, and even two national head hunting agency directors, most that can be found at the APA web site or University libraries and in an actual book store.

Oh wait, silly me, you want interweb sites that are free because you're too cheap to buy an actual book and physically read something besides an executive summary on some web page.
Sorry, her book is $13.00 (easily found at Chapters if either of you can get your fat lazy asses off your computer chair) and some of the research papers on the APA website are up to $30.00, but I'm sure neither one of you will ever spend a penny on actual verified and validated documents let alone read and understand them.

In fact, both of you can take your shit attitudes and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.



Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

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Friday, May 5, 2017 10:00 PM

THGRRI


Nice to see you here DEVERSE. Fist, Jack doesn't read or do any type research. He basically wings it. Then there is 1kiki and SIG. All they do here is troll now. It's been that way since I arrived.



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Originally posted by DEVERSE:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
A link or two would be nice. Thanks.



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I see there are no linkies in answer to your request, KIKI.



I gave you the author and title of the book that includes her references to studies by the APA, National Sciences, a number of University psychiatric and psychological professors, and even two national head hunting agency directors, most that can be found at the APA web site or University libraries and in an actual book store.

Oh wait, silly me, you want interweb sites that are free because you're too cheap to buy an actual book and physically read something besides an executive summary on some web page.
Sorry, her book is $13.00 (easily found at Chapters if either of you can get your fat lazy asses off your computer chair) and some of the research papers on the APA website are up to $30.00, but I'm sure neither one of you will ever spend a penny on actual verified and validated documents let alone read and understand them.

In fact, both of you can take your shit attitudes and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.



Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been







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Friday, May 5, 2017 11:09 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


DEVERSE: I suspect that you did a personality test on yourself and found that you were a humorless asshole who insisted on holding longstanding grudges against people who didn't bow to your superior wisdom!

THUGR: I suspect that YOU took the personality test and that they recommended that you take remedial "thinking classes" and maybe that you should apply for disability because of cognitive disorder!

Just kidding.



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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Friday, May 5, 2017 11:12 PM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by DEVERSE:


In fact, both of you can take your shit attitudes and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.





RWED has finally rubbed off on D, I see

Congratulations on joining the rest of the pissed off human race

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Friday, May 5, 2017 11:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Good grief, people! I can't understand what all of the pushback is about especially when people post similar questionnaires about your (presumed) political leanings.

Do you know how in the middle ages they used to believe that people came in four "types"? Bilious, sanguine, phlegmatic and choleric? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humorism Well, I suspect that people react according to certain setpoints, maybe related to the various neurotransmitters .... introverts, for example, lack dopamine; while adventurers have fewer G protein-coupled receptors.

Anyway, it was just to be interesting and maybe even amusing; I can't imagine what all the fuss is about. It seems to be an unnecessarily hostile and even fearful response.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Friday, May 5, 2017 11:53 PM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by DEVERSE:
In fact, both of you can take your shit attitudes and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.



RWED has finally rubbed off on D, I see

Congratulations on joining the rest of the pissed off human race



I'm in a bad mood and tired. Chemical warehouse fire 4am Tuesday and me and my branch got steam burned and my shoulders and back are itchy like I got poison ivy, but I can't even rub it let alone scratch.

Also tired of people who act like an idiot rather than actually read and take the time to understand or think.

How's the leg? Hope you are on blood thinners and not like me when I got hit by that drunk back in 2012 and broke my leg. I got clots and swelling so bad just before I got out of the splint the skin on my leg split.

Take care.


Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

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Friday, May 5, 2017 11:57 PM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Nice to see you here DEVERSE. Fist, Jack doesn't read or do any type research. He basically wings it. Then there is 1kiki and SIG. All they do here is troll now. It's been that way since I arrived.



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Originally posted by DEVERSE:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
A link or two would be nice. Thanks.



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I see there are no linkies in answer to your request, KIKI.



I gave you the author and title of the book that includes her references to studies by the APA, National Sciences, a number of University psychiatric and psychological professors, and even two national head hunting agency directors, most that can be found at the APA web site or University libraries and in an actual book store.

Oh wait, silly me, you want interweb sites that are free because you're too cheap to buy an actual book and physically read something besides an executive summary on some web page.
Sorry, her book is $13.00 (easily found at Chapters if either of you can get your fat lazy asses off your computer chair) and some of the research papers on the APA website are up to $30.00, but I'm sure neither one of you will ever spend a penny on actual verified and validated documents let alone read and understand them.

In fact, both of you can take your shit attitudes and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.

Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been





Both of them must be like 150 years old and just miserable all the time. Sick of seeing their BS on the forums... can't be an intelligent conversation on the forums without one or the other posting their BS.


Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

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Saturday, May 6, 2017 12:00 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by REVERSE:
Oh wait, silly me, you want interweb sites that are free because you're too cheap to buy an actual book and physically read something besides an executive summary on some web page.

Wow. I hope YOU don't think you have any insight into how people tick! Because you really missed the mark!

Personally, I went to google scholar, found a number of links to research papers and skimmed through them. But YOU seem to think you know a lot about the topic, so I was hoping for something that would be relatively immediate that would be a fair representation of what YOU know.

I gather from your response that what you know, and can specifically point to, is one book --- and only one book?
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The test probably shouldn't be used for any serious things like career building, at least not on its own merits.
It may have been state-of-the art a few decades ago. It was administered - along with IQ tests, the MMPI, a job-satisfaction test, and a number of other tests, by genuine psychologists, when I went to pick my next career, back in the day.
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Sorry, her book is $13.00 (easily found at Chapters if either of you can get your fat lazy asses off your computer chair) and some of the research papers on the APA website are up to $30.00, but I'm sure neither one of you will ever spend a penny on actual verified and validated documents let alone read and understand them.
As for actual books ... my eyes have just about given out. If I can't super-enlarge it, I can't read it. At least, not very well, or very quickly.
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In fact, both of you can take your shit attitudes and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.
Speaking of attitude - you did a pretty good job taking a mild request for links, and what COULD have been an interesting discussion, and turning it into an opportunity to attack someone you really don't know. You have problems, the very least of which is you're an everyday sadist who likes to troll. So what's with you REVERSE? You seem to feel threatened.

Also, I sure hope you don't have professional access to anyone's psyche. And I truly feel sorry for your family. My god, what they have lived with!




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Saturday, May 6, 2017 9:23 AM

DEVERSE

Hey, Ive been in a firefight before! Well, I was in a fire. Actually, I was fired from a fry-cook opportunity.


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Originally posted by 1kiki:

A whole lot of BS snipped.



No, unlike you I don’t judge people, but I recognize an idiot when I see one. But thanks for proving my point that the only research you do is on the internet, (really, google scholar?) and are dense enough to believe whatever you find there.

Again, you are still unable to read, to understand or to think and post drivel in order to reply rather than to demonstrate you actually have any intelligence or insight. You must be one of those people who read something and take it at face value and never look at anything else to verify or confirm. Have you ever followed up and looked at references to see that they say? I suspect you are one of the former rather than the latter type individual and why you suggest I only read one book and can only point to one book.
I hope your job is something mindless and simple and no one has to rely on you for anything that takes any level of intelligence or insight. Hopefully, something involving handling feces with your bare hands.

Myers-Briggs was never “state of the art”, it’s a simple test used by simple people who don’t have any ability to think – and yes I am referring to human resource people and career counselors (and really how much of a failure in life are you if your job is career counselor?).

And if you must know, a very intelligent young man I know who is currently being scouted by the NFL was advised by a “career counselor” that he was more suited to pursue a different career based on the results of the Myers-Briggs test. I also found out that the City where I work uses it as part of the hiring process for fire fighters and a very intelligent young man I expected to see hired and on my department last year came and saw me again recently to gain some insight into trying to “pass” the test so he can get hired as a fire fighter (my department is currently hiring again). Apparently, some HR drone seems to think he wouldn’t be a “good fit”.
So I went to the University and met with the Academic Head of the Department of Psychology and not only did he discuss the test with me, he gave me the book, provided me his access to the various research papers and answered all my questions and even offered to help both of the two young men I know in pursuing their chosen careers.
Why? It’s kind of a perk one University professor does for another even though we teach (I should say “taught” as I retired in February 2017 to allow a very intelligent young lady to gain a position that I am sure will lead to tenure) in different departments.

And if you have gotten similar results from the test over a long period, then you really must have absolutely zero personality because you have never changed.

So again, take your crappy attitude and how you think you are so superior in intellect than anyone else on the forums with your obtuse posts and shove them.



Oh let the sun beat down upon my face;
With stars to fill my dream;
I am a traveler of both time and space;
To be where I have been

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Saturday, May 6, 2017 10:50 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by DEVERSE:

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DEVERSE

Both of them must be like 150 years old and just miserable all the time. Sick of seeing their BS on the forums... can't be an intelligent conversation on the forums without one or the other posting their BS.




Yes it's true. The two of them have made it impossible to have a real discussion. What they do is different from what the ideologues do. At least they're consistent. Nuts, but consistent. SIG and 1kikis' opinions on similar topics are inconsistent from thread to thread. That's because they cut and paste lies and subterfuge. It's easier than actually trying to understand a topic and converse honestly on it.

Again, it's nice to see you here. Another voice of reason is always appreciated.




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Saturday, May 6, 2017 4:11 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by DEVERSE:

No, unlike you I don’t judge people

Really? You mean like your next non-judgmental name-calling?
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but I recognize an idiot when I see one. But thanks for proving my point that the only research you do is on the internet, (really, google scholar?) and are dense enough
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to believe whatever you find there.
You mean like original research done by actual psychologists published through pubmed? OH! I GET IT! YOU would much prefer the armchair psychology of a popular paperback! Written by someone who's not even a psychologist! "Annie Murphy Paul is a magazine journalist and book author." Yes, THAT'S your intellectual speed!
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Again, you are still unable to read, to understand or to think and post drivel in order to reply rather than to demonstrate you actually have any intelligence or insight. You must be one of those people who read something and take it at face value and never look at anything else to verify or confirm.
Is that your non-judgmental trait again? Or your complete inability to comprehend what people here are actually like? Or both?
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Have you ever followed up and looked at references to see that they say?
All the time.
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I suspect you are one of the former rather than the latter type individual and why you suggest I only read one book and can only point to one book.
And once again, you're wrong.
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I hope your job is something mindless and simple and no one has to rely on you for anything that takes any level of intelligence or insight. Hopefully, something involving handling feces with your bare hands.
You must really feel threatened.
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Myers-Briggs was never “state of the art”, it’s a simple test used by simple people who don’t have any ability to think – and yes I am referring to human resource people and career counselors (and really how much of a failure in life are you if your job is career counselor?).
Career counselors? Do they administer and interpret in-person IQ tests? MMPIs? The JSS? Speaking of not being able to read ... or think ...
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And if you must know, a very intelligent young man I know who is currently being scouted by the NFL was advised by a “career counselor” that he was more suited to pursue a different career based on the results of the Myers-Briggs test. I also found out that the City where I work uses it as part of the hiring process for fire fighters and a very intelligent young man I expected to see hired and on my department last year came and saw me again recently to gain some insight into trying to “pass” the test so he can get hired as a fire fighter (my department is currently hiring again). Apparently, some HR drone seems to think he wouldn’t be a “good fit”.
So, oh wise one - show me where I said the Myers-Briggs test was a good thing. I never defended its use in this day and age, or its sole use in any setting, or the results from it. But you're such a dolt you never noticed.
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So I went to the University and met with the Academic Head of the Department of Psychology and not only did he discuss the test with me, he gave me the book, provided me his access to the various research papers and answered all my questions and even offered to help both of the two young men I know in pursuing their chosen careers.
Why? It’s kind of a perk one University professor does for another

Are you ... flirting with me? Or trying you intimidate me with your importance? You're a hoot!
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even though we teach (I should say “taught” as I retired in February 2017 to allow a very intelligent young lady to gain a position that I am sure will lead to tenure) in different departments.
Too bad you're a sadist who thinks it's ok to abuse people just because you've had a bad day.
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And if you have gotten similar results from the test over a long period, then you really must have absolutely zero personality because you have never changed.
In another post I pointed to two - and only two - 'personality traits' that seem to be stable over a long time - introversion/ extroversion, and conscientiousness. And conscientiousness isn't in Meyers-Briggs. Are you - once again - demonstrating your inability to read?
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So again, take your crappy attitude and how you think you are so superior in intellect than anyone else on the forums with your obtuse posts and shove them.
I'm not the smartest person I know, but I am one of the smartest people here. I guarantee it.




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Saturday, May 6, 2017 8:42 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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I'm in a bad mood and tired. Chemical warehouse fire 4am Tuesday and me and my branch got steam burned ...


Yanno, I was all sympathetic until I found this ...
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In fact, both of you can take your shit attitudes and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.
followed shortly thereafter by
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unlike you, I don't judge people
and my mind did that needle-sliding-sideways-over-vinyl-record-thing

and it was a tossup between laughing out loud (and spewing coffee over my keyboard) or sitting there in complete dumbfounded amazement.

I chose dumbfounded amazement. Then, I see, you decided to double-down on assholeness with this little gem
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but I recognize an idiot when I see one.
Yep! Me too!



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I also found out that the City where I work uses it as part of the hiring process for fire fighters and a very intelligent young man I expected to see hired and on my department last year came and saw me again recently to gain some insight into trying to “pass” the test so he can get hired as a fire fighter (my department is currently hiring again). Apparently, some HR drone seems to think he wouldn’t be a “good fit”.
Wow. Say, did YOU "pass the test"??


But, back to your personal situation
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I'm in a bad mood and tired. Chemical warehouse fire 4am Tuesday and me and my branch got steam burned and my shoulders and back are itchy like I got poison ivy, but I can't even rub it let alone scratch.
Yanno, we have a group of volunteers in our lab who take person-portable GC MS FIDs on incident response to look for strange chemicals in the air. We're not even qualified or trained to go into the hot zone but even then we're a little creeped out by the chemicals that MIGHT be in the air. Firefighters boldly go in where chemists fear to tread. I hope you took proper precautions. Firefighters have higher rates of cancer than the general population. https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/pgms/worknotify/pdfs/ff-cancer-factsheet-fin
al.pdf


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How's the leg? Hope you are on blood thinners and not like me when I got hit by that drunk back in 2012 and broke my leg. I got clots and swelling so bad just before I got out of the splint the skin on my leg split.
Wow, that must have sucked. I had an injury that I thought would split the skin over my knee, and comforted myself by thinking "that doesn't happen". Good thing I didn't know then what I just found out now!

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Take care.
You too.


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Sunday, May 7, 2017 12:10 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Jeez.... how the hell did this happen?

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Sunday, May 7, 2017 12:15 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Jeez.... how the hell did this happen?- SIX

I wondered that myself!

I posted an innocuous post about a personality test ... just like I posted an innocuous post about Acrush .... repeatedly try to cool down the rhetoric .... and "certain people" decided to go into "personal attack mode" ... which seems to be a reflex with them. It happens every time, no matter HOW inconsequential or harmless the post. Honestly, it's like they can't control themselves.


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Monday, May 8, 2017 10:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Jeez.... how the hell did this happen?



Seems to happen to the hag sisters a lot doesn't it? Say, you don't suppose there's a connection? Like, maybe their really good at pissing people off? You think it's a gift or just natural talent they have? Kind of ironical it happened in a thread about 'personality.'

==============================



Yes, it is. This whole forum is a personality test, and we found out who the bullies are. People who are so righteous they think it excuses bad behavior.



I admit, I did that myself, but now I only bite back when I've been bitten.



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Monday, May 8, 2017 1:28 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Jeez.... how the hell did this happen?



Seems to happen to the hag sisters a lot doesn't it? Say, you don't suppose there's a connection? Like, maybe their really good at pissing people off? You think it's a gift or just natural talent they have? Kind of ironical it happened in a thread about 'personality.'

==============================



Yes, it is. This whole forum is a personality test, and we found out who the bullies are. People who are so righteous they think it excuses bad behavior.



I admit, I did that myself, but now I only bite back when I've been bitten.





SIG, your problem is some of us recognize Lenin when we see him coming. That and as in all the other threads, you post argumentatively. You always attack the facts and those who post them. You did it here with DEVERSE.



And hey, you and your Leninist friends.




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Monday, May 8, 2017 1:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SIG, your problem is some of us recognize Lenin when we see him coming. That and as in all the other threads, you post argumentatively. You always attack the facts and those who post them. You did it here with DEVERSE.
Wow, YOU'RE accusing someone of not seeing facts?

We spent several posts going back and forth about the validity of personality tests. I "get" that DEVERSE doesn't think much of them, and frankly I don't take them all THAT seriously! I spent some time trying to say that it was just supposed to be interesting and somewhat amusing ... yanno, exactly like those online "political spectrum" quizzes that are posted here from time to time, before DEVERSE unloaded his shit.

It's funny how a responsible person who claims to be a professor AND a firefighter can become such an asshole online so quickly. Well, it's a weakness we are all subject to, myself included. Except you, THUGR. You're an asshole ALL the time! You might want out find out why.




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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Monday, May 8, 2017 1:37 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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SIG, your problem is some of us recognize Lenin when we see him coming. That and as in all the other threads, you post argumentatively. You always attack the facts and those who post them. You did it here with DEVERSE.
Wow, YOU'RE accusing someone of not seeing facts?




Yep, in 99.999% of the threads you post in. Climate change is the only thread I can think of where you and 1kiki are receptive to the facts.






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Monday, May 8, 2017 2:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.







Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Monday, May 8, 2017 3:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by G:
Seems to happen to the hag sisters a lot doesn't it?

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Originally posted by G:
and deserved every dig.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
... we found out who the bullies are. People who are so righteous they think it excuses bad behavior.

Like you GEEBERS. Maybe you haven't noticed, but I NEVER start the tolling. You and your ilk - well, you do. Because you think you're so righteous - we 'deserve' it.

Signy has been letting a lot of your proactive trolling slide. Me, I send it back.




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Monday, May 8, 2017 4:52 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Seems to happen to the hag sisters a lot doesn't it? -GSTRING
Yep, here is GSTRING, being a douche. Why?

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Because you think you're so righteous - we 'deserve' it.- SIGNY


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Fine, have some more.- GSTRING
And doubling down on douche-dom. Why?



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Monday, May 8, 2017 5:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


GEEBERS

THIS WAS MY VERY FIRST POST ON THIS THREAD

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A link or two would be nice. Thanks.
See any trolling so far? Yeah, neither do I.
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I also have taken that test more than once - in my early 20's, mid 30's, and decades later, and gotten similar results over time.
How about NOW?
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Of the different categories, introversion/ extroversion are stable in real life over time.
NOW?
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When it comes to other ways to measure personality, extroversion and conscientiousness were more stable over decades, whereas agreeableness, openness, and neuroticism were not. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2247365/

Other studies indicate that the secret to a long, successful life is conscientiousness. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2691806/

If conscientiousness is a stable enough trait to influence lifespan, then two traits - introversion/ extroversion and conscientiousness are stable traits that might represent something fundamental in people.

ANY YET?

Yanno, unless you're a total fucking idiot - are you? - it all seems pretty neutral and on topic - DOESN'T IT?

And this is what I got in reply.
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Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Oh wait, silly me, you want interweb sites that are free because you're too cheap to buy an actual book and physically read something besides an executive summary on some web page.
... if either of you can get your fat lazy asses off your computer chair ... I'm sure neither one of you will ever spend a penny on actual verified and validated documents let alone read and understand them.

In fact, both of you can take your shit attitudes and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.



Yep YOU THOUGHT MY POST 'DESERVED' TROLLING.

Yanno GEEBERS - you can take your shit attitude and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Monday, May 8, 2017 5:52 PM

THGRRI


Worth repeating



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G

Fine, have some more. You're a sh*t to pretty much everyone. Jo's mom dies and 2 days later you're calling him full of himself and a twat. You say RiverLove is like an ISIS "apologist" was it? Deverse who rarely posts, ended up telling you to f*ck off in his most recent brief appearance. Plus you constantly, intentionally, observably lie. You're on the all star scum sucking list and I'll be happy to remind you of that every chance I get. When one is pissing off so many people one would be wise to do a little self reflection. The fact that you clearly haven't or just don't care to, only underscores what a constant, observable, intentional sh*t you are.







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Monday, May 8, 2017 5:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.







Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Monday, May 8, 2017 5:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


GEEBERS

THIS WAS MY VERY FIRST POST ON THIS THREAD

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A link or two would be nice. Thanks.
See any trolling so far? Yeah, neither do I.
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I also have taken that test more than once - in my early 20's, mid 30's, and decades later, and gotten similar results over time.
How about NOW?
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Of the different categories, introversion/ extroversion are stable in real life over time.
NOW?
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When it comes to other ways to measure personality, extroversion and conscientiousness were more stable over decades, whereas agreeableness, openness, and neuroticism were not. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2247365/

Other studies indicate that the secret to a long, successful life is conscientiousness. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2691806/

If conscientiousness is a stable enough trait to influence lifespan, then two traits - introversion/ extroversion and conscientiousness are stable traits that might represent something fundamental in people.

ANY YET?

Yanno, unless you're a total fucking idiot - are you? - it all seems pretty neutral and on topic - DOESN'T IT?

And this is what I got in reply.
Quote:

Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Oh wait, silly me, you want interweb sites that are free because you're too cheap to buy an actual book and physically read something besides an executive summary on some web page.
... if either of you can get your fat lazy asses off your computer chair ... I'm sure neither one of you will ever spend a penny on actual verified and validated documents let alone read and understand them.

Yep YOU THOUGHT MY POST 'DESERVED' TROLLING.

In fact, you can take your shit attitudes and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.



Yanno GEEBERS - you can take your shit attitude and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.





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Monday, May 8, 2017 6:33 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, like I said KIKI - this thread .... and in fact this whole forum ... is a personality test, and we get to see who the bullies are.

THUGR is so gorram brainless its doubtful he will ever gain any insight into what a jackass he is.

G, OTOH, should be smart enough to realize that most of the time, HE'S the one who starts things going downhill.

Right, G?

If you need another example, go here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61607&p=3#1
030361


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Monday, May 8, 2017 6:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


It would kill him to admit it, even if he had the smarts to notice. But you have to remember - he's the brainless twat who spent weeks hounding me about why Haken sent his thread to troll country.

He didn't figure it out then.

Do you think he will NOW?

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Monday, May 8, 2017 6:58 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, like I said KIKI - this thread .... and in fact this whole forum ... is a personality test, and we get to see who the bullies are.

THUGR is so gorram brainless its doubtful he will ever gain any insight into what a jackass he is.

G, OTOH, should be smart enough to realize that most of the time, HE'S the one who starts things going downhill.

Right, G?

If you need another example, go here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61607&p=3#1
030361






Thanks for the link. I suggest everyone click on it. I'll post it as well to keep SIG honest.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61623



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Tuesday, May 9, 2017 12:14 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


GEEBERS

THIS WAS MY VERY FIRST POST ON THIS THREAD

Quote:

A link or two would be nice. Thanks.
See any trolling so far? Yeah, neither do I.
Quote:

I also have taken that test more than once - in my early 20's, mid 30's, and decades later, and gotten similar results over time.
How about NOW?
Quote:

Of the different categories, introversion/ extroversion are stable in real life over time.
NOW?
Quote:

When it comes to other ways to measure personality, extroversion and conscientiousness were more stable over decades, whereas agreeableness, openness, and neuroticism were not. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2247365/

Other studies indicate that the secret to a long, successful life is conscientiousness. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2691806/

If conscientiousness is a stable enough trait to influence lifespan, then two traits - introversion/ extroversion and conscientiousness are stable traits that might represent something fundamental in people.

ANY YET?

Yanno, unless you're a total fucking idiot - are you? - it all seems pretty neutral and on topic - DOESN'T IT?

And this is what I got in reply.
Quote:

Originally posted by DEVERSE:
Oh wait, silly me, you want interweb sites that are free because you're too cheap to buy an actual book and physically read something besides an executive summary on some web page.
... if either of you can get your fat lazy asses off your computer chair ... I'm sure neither one of you will ever spend a penny on actual verified and validated documents let alone read and understand them.

Yep YOU THOUGHT MY POST 'DESERVED' TROLLING.

In fact, you can take your shit attitudes and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.



Yanno GEEBERS - you can take your shit attitude and your lack of reading skills and any intelligence and go f*** yourself.




Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.









Care to try addressing the facts, again?

Or do you shoot nothing but blanks?


Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Tuesday, May 9, 2017 12:17 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Thanks for the link. I suggest everyone click on it. I'll post it as well to keep SIG honest.
Yes, because there's nothing like quoting someone extensively, word for word, in context, in order to "lie" about them.

G is pretty much indicted by his own words, as are you. The more you post, the worse you both look. So keep on posting!

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.


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Thursday, June 2, 2022 12:30 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Each day I tried these tests a new result...well not always. So maybe something different usually comes out depending on my mood or week's experience, I guess I don't really hit a problem with one life experience, I would hit it with all my tools of life experience.
it tends to class me Logician more than emotion INTJ-T ISTP INTP-T but it can be a weird mix of extrovert and intovert ENTJ ENFP ENTP-A. I can honestly be alone or among big crowds, either doesn't really bother me. Although I have been around the Arts I don't think any time I Never did these tests I've ever been classed as the true artist type 'ISFP' ...I'm glad because most artists personlity types I meet are too 'out there'.
I think I might be changing becoming less Happily 'Optimistic', less time for seeking out joys and pleasures, I'm still polite to people but give less of a fuck about people's opinions especially when they are totally wrong....maybe its an influence from Corona or real world politics.


Also

9Axes, based off of 8values is a political quiz

https://9axes.github.io/

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Thursday, June 2, 2022 2:59 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Wow, now THIS is a "blast from the past"!

I see CAPON's posts (under the account "G" or one of the many other accounts he has created here) are entirely missing. It seems the database hiccuped and lost that account.
One of the reasons why I think CAPON is a paid internet troll (aside from the fact that he's a sleazy poster who lies, misrepresents others' posts, "frames" discussions and insinuates nasty things) is bc he has created SO MANY accounts here.

Now, in order to create an account, one must submit a useable email addy to receive a registration code. Either CAPON has a fuck-ton of email accounts (yanno, for his internet work) or a fuck-ton of aliases (yanno, for his internet work).

Another person with a surprising number of accounts is THUGR.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


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Thursday, June 2, 2022 5:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Each day I tried these tests a new result...well not always. So maybe something different usually comes out depending on my mood or week's experience, I guess I don't really hit a problem with one life experience, I would hit it with all my tools of life experience.
it tends to class me Logician more than emotion INTJ-T ISTP INTP-T but it can be a weird mix of extrovert and intovert ENTJ ENFP ENTP-A. I can honestly be alone or among big crowds, either doesn't really bother me. Although I have been around the Arts I don't think any time I Never did these tests I've ever been classed as the true artist type 'ISFP' ...I'm glad because most artists personlity types I meet are too 'out there'.
I think I might be changing becoming less Happily 'Optimistic', less time for seeking out joys and pleasures, I'm still polite to people but give less of a fuck about people's opinions especially when they are totally wrong....maybe its an influence from Corona or real world politics.


Also

9Axes, based off of 8values is a political quiz

https://9axes.github.io/

I have to say, my impression of you is that you ARE all over the map. Nobody would ever fault you for consistency

You're willing to entertain all kinds of ideas and conspiracies. Mostly you tend to apply some kind of analysis but there are a few issues that you feel passionate about - Islam, for example.

I never know what you'll post next, or from what direction.

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Friday, June 3, 2022 11:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
9Axes, based off of 8values is a political quiz

https://9axes.github.io/




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Closest Match: Religious Socialism

Your 8values ideology (see https://8values.github.io for more information)

Please note this does only factor the Democratic-Authoritarian, Globalist-Isolationist, Equality-Markets, and Progressive-Traditional axes.



I Strongly Disagree.

I agreed (although not strongly) that there should be a separation of Church and state, and all other religious questions I answered UNSURE.

I also certainly am not a Socialist. I answered STRONGLY DISAGREE to the question that "If somebody can't work they should die". I also said that I was UNSURE that Capitalism is the BEST system since I don't personally have any experience living under any other system and since I'm not omniscient I can't possibly say that is an infallible truth.

Where the hell they came up with Religious Socialist out of that, who the hell knows?


DISCLAIMER: I only took the "short" 45 question quiz. Maybe if I take the 200+ question quiz they might end up with a result that is at least somewhat in the ballpark.

I'm not impressed with the results so far.

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Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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Saturday, June 4, 2022 6:58 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
DISCLAIMER: I only took the "short" 45 question quiz. Maybe if I take the 200+ question quiz they might end up with a result that is at least somewhat in the ballpark.

I'm not impressed with the results so far.



I took the 216 question quiz...

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Closest Match: Moderate Conservatism

Your 8values ideology (see https://8values.github.io for more information)

Please note this does only factor the Democratic-Authoritarian, Globalist-Isolationist, Equality-Markets, and Progressive-Traditional axes.



That's certainly more in line with my way of thinking than Religious Socialist, but not what I'd ever label myself.

What is the point of all of the axes if they only factor 4 of them in when labeling you?

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Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

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