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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:33 PM

JO753

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I came up with an extension uv the old saying:

You can fool enuf uv the peepl enuf uv the time.

It will be the downfall uv this nation.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I came up with an extension uv the old saying:

You can fool enuf uv the peepl enuf uv the time.

In order to do WHAT, JO? WHAT is the goal, besides fooling people?
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:

It will be the downfall uv this nation.

HOW will that come about? WHAT will happen that'll be the downfall of this nation?

Stop posting (and thinking) in vague apocalyptic terms driven by feelings. Cite facts. Use logic. Outline processes step by step. Make specific predictions.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:12 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


BTW, I just wanted to point out that the Germans before Hitler were literally starving in the streets. Their situation was life or death, and they were desperate. 'Hyperinflation' is the blandest cover-up for the reality.

DESPITE that, Hitler didn't rise to power on a wave of uncritical assent, or even preoccupied indifference.

He had SS secret police spying everywhere, and death squads executing his rivals and opponents: sometimes in big flamboyant Mafia-style hits, other times executing entire families quietly in the dark streets after dragging them out of bed, still other times shivving people in prison after having them falsely arrested.

We'll never know how many of those saluting Germans were behind him, and how many were going along, or else.

So, please - don't bring up that Trump is going to be another Hitler, unless you're going to go ALL the way there.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 11:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It's funny. I hear people online, almost exclusively Democrats, saying for quite some time we're headed for a civil war. I'm hearing that more now, particularly if Trump gets re-elected in 2020.

But then I go outside and I see people. Men and women. White, Black, Mexican, Asian, other...

It's not as if everybody is giving each other the stink eye all the time.

Only 2% of the nation on any given night is paying attention at all to the news. Nobody bothered tuning in to the Mueller testimony.

Nobody gives a shit.

There will be no civil war.

Just like there was no Russia. Just like 2012 wasn't the end of the world. Just like Y2K amounted to nothing.


Just a bunch of sky-is-falling chucklefuckery online by people who watch way too much MSM and don't pay enough attention to their own lives and things they have power to change.





I largely tuned out of the online thing during most of Obama's presidency. Bitching online constantly about GWB for 5 years wore me out. Here it is, 2019, and as a nation we survived both of them. I'm sure we'll survive Trump too. And whatever asshole comes after him too... yada yada yada.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 31, 2019 6:39 PM

THG


National Cathedral On Trump's Racist Comments: 'Have We No Decency?'

Leaders of the Washington National Cathedral have joined the voices denouncing President Donald Trump for attacking Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) and labeling his majority-black district a “rodent infested mess.”

The cathedral released a statement on Tuesday from Revs. Mariann Edgar Budde, Randolph Marshall Hollerith and Kelly Brown Douglas calling Trump’s comments “dangerous” and “more than a ‘dog-whistle.’”

“When such violent dehumanizing words come from the President of the United States, they are a clarion call, and give cover, to white supremacists who consider people of color a sub-human ‘infestation’ in America,” the statement reads. “They serve as a call to action from those people to keep America great by ridding it of such infestation. Violent words lead to violent actions.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/national-cathedral-on-trumps-racist-
comments-have-we-no-decency/ar-AAF5Qqf?ocid=spartanntp


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Wednesday, July 31, 2019 7:03 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Criticizing the messenger for pointing out the VERY evident problems of poverty, lack of good education, lack of opportunity, lack of community, lack of good housing, AND LACK OF PROGRESS is how the dems give away votes.

I don't agree with everything Trump tweets, and I disagree with his approach ...

... but here are the full tweets as best I can find them (most 'sources' have so heavily edited them into 5-word disconnected phrases it's hard to find the originals)
Quote:

As proven last week during a Congressional tour, the Border is clean, efficient & well run, just very crowded.
very crowded: agree, Congress needs to allocate even more money; clean, efficient & well run: sometimes
Quote:

Cumming District is a disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess.
I don't know the area, but I'm sure some sections of Baltimore are exactly that - as are some sections of every city in the US.
Quote:

If he spent more time in Baltimore, maybe he could help clean up this very dangerous & filthy place
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 27, 2019

If you don't blame the people who are in a position to help, who ARE you going to blame for the lack of progress?
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Why is so much money sent to the Elijah Cummings district when it is considered the worst run and most dangerous anywhere in the United States.
I would need to vet this. But given Trump's accuracy in calling out PR corruption - before it was on ANY media radar, I wouldn't be surprised if this had some truth to it.
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No human being would want to live there.
I'm sure a lot of the residents in broken neighborhoods want them to be better.
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Where is all this money going? How much is stolen? Investigate this corrupt mess immediately!
This would need to be vetted.


And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, September 8, 2019 6:45 AM

JO753

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The guy looks just like Robert Redford.

Odd that the eko chamber iznt buzzing about Hollywood liberalz in on the Russia Hoax plot to bring down Trump. "Look! They are so desperate that they hav top actorz playing karakterz in their fake storyz!"

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Sunday, September 8, 2019 6:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

It's going to be hilarious when Trump wins by even more the 2nd time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 10, 2019 4:58 AM

JO753

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A fresh pile:



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Tuesday, September 10, 2019 8:38 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Tuesday, September 10, 2019 9:13 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:



The guy looks just like Robert Redford.

REALLY? Naw ...

Now THIS looks like Robert Redford!


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Tuesday, September 10, 2019 9:39 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
A fresh pile:



https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2019/08/27/msnbcs-rachel-madd
ow-stuck-in-5th-place-as-fox-news-takes-its-212th-consecutive-monthly-win/#2dcdb773164b





That's been one of the Elephants in the room during the Trump era: the irrefutable proof that the base IQ of this country is even lower than imagined. F*cking Rosanne was the No. 1 show for how long?? This is one dumb @ss country!

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 5:31 AM

JO753

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True dat!

You coud lojikly propoze that we hav well matched reprezentation in our goverment. Goverment for the stoopidz by the stoopidz!

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:48 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by JO753:
A fresh pile:



https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjoyella/2019/08/27/msnbcs-rachel-madd
ow-stuck-in-5th-place-as-fox-news-takes-its-212th-consecutive-monthly-win/#2dcdb773164b





That's been one of the Elephants in the room during the Trump era: the irrefutable proof that the base IQ of this country is even lower than imagined. F*cking Rosanne was the No. 1 show for how long?? This is one dumb @ss country!



Awwwww...

You're not salty about the double loss in N.C. last night, are ya buddy?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:02 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by CaptainCrunch:
That's been one of the Elephants in the room during the Trump era: the irrefutable proof that the base IQ of this country is even lower than imagined. F*cking Rosanne was the No. 1 show for how long?? This is one dumb @ss country!



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Awwwww...

You're not salty about the double loss in N.C. last night, are ya buddy?




I posted that before the NC election, so thx for proving my point. And why are you suddenly all giddy over a win in SC for the GOP? I really could give a sh*t.

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Sunday, January 24, 2021 9:52 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I came up with an extension uv the old saying:

You can fool enuf uv the peepl enuf uv the time.



In order to do WHAT, JO? WHAT is the goal, besides fooling people?
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:

It will be the downfall uv this nation.



HOW will that come about? WHAT will happen that'll be the downfall of this nation?

Stop posting (and thinking) in vague apocalyptic terms driven by feelings. Cite facts. Use logic. Outline processes step by step. Make specific predictions.



We livd thru the explanation. Trump and hiz GoP goonz fooled enuf chuklhedz into conducting an insurrection that came within a hair'z width uv taking a big bite out uv Uncle Sam'z brain.

I dont think it woud hav actually sekseeded. If they did capture and execute Pelosi and or any other congresspeeps and senatorz, it just woud hav been worse for Trump and quicker.

But, if Trump and the GoPs werent sooo stoooopid they woudnt hav even had to try this stunt and woud hav had another 4 yirz to finish the job uv killing democrasy in this country.


(for wen that gets deleted, the title iz Velshi: Not every argument has two sides)

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's funny. I hear people online, almost exclusively Democrats, saying for quite some time we're headed for a civil war. I'm hearing that more now, particularly if Trump gets re-elected in 2020....

There will be no civil war.



Funny, I wuz hearing it mainly from Trump fanz if he lost. So, wut do you think now?




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Sunday, January 24, 2021 9:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Funny, I wuz hearing it mainly from Trump fanz if he lost. So, wut do you think now?



Nah. People just need to tune out of the news.

All of those "horror" stories about what Biden was going to do when he got in already fell flat, and the Lefty MSM is already talking about how Dems are probably going to lose their new power in 2 years.

The tech censorship is a big thing though. It's not a good idea to silence people. (Especially considering any power you give the Democrats now will be welded by Republicans one day too).

For 20 or so years now, it's been a great way to vent frustrations. If they start silencing everybody's voices that don't parrot whatever the Media tells you to think, they're going to lose their ability to keep tabs on what half of the country is thinking at any given time. And those on one side have lost that little depressurization valve they've grown accustomed to online, which absolutely could lead to some individual crazies doing some stupid and dangerous things.


I know you think it's a good thing JO, but you're on the wrong side of history on the censorship issue.


There's not going to be any Civil War. I just get to sit back for the next two years at least and watch you guys play defense for a change.





Oh... and BTW...

Seeing as how you're one of the few reasonable folk that ever ventures in here anymore that I don't agree with on much politically, could you please give me and any other Trump supporters (or at least anti-Biden* people) a grade on their behavior after the election relatively speaking to those who were anti-Trump both after the 2016 election and even to this very day?

I'd say we're acting pretty reasonable by comparison. I'd also say that the fact I haven't followed their narrative and imploded before their eyes are making their heads explode just a little right now too.

(Their guy won, yet one of them has told me and others to kill themselves 4 times in the last 24 hours even)




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Sunday, January 24, 2021 10:38 PM

JO753

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Sorry, I havent been keeping up here enuf to juj.

But, I do hav my own opinion on the matter.

Therez a big differens between Hillary'z loss and Trump's. From an outside obzerverz perspectiv, the Dem voterz had good reazon to feel devastated, the Trump voterz do not. Their entire perspectiv iz based on liez.

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Sunday, January 24, 2021 11:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


That is 100% subjective and is entirely your own opinion and it's just as easy to flip that comment you finished your post off with around and it's true for half of the country.

If you don't see what you're "friends" are behaving like in these threads, that is because you choose not to.

In effect, you're condoning their behavior. It might as well be you telling me to kill myself, JO.

You should be embarrassed to be associated with the likes of the people you associate yourself with.




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Monday, January 25, 2021 12:26 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That is 100% subjective and is entirely your own opinion and it's just as easy to flip that comment you finished your post off with around and it's true for half of the country.

If you don't see what you're "friends" are behaving like in these threads, that is because you choose not to.

In effect, you're condoning their behavior. It might as well be you telling me to kill myself, JO.

You should be embarrassed to be associated with the likes of the people you associate yourself with.

You really should kill yourself. It's by far the most effective thing a loser like you could do to make a real improvement in the world.



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Monday, January 25, 2021 2:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That is 100% subjective and is entirely your own opinion and it's just as easy to flip that comment you finished your post off with around and it's true for half of the country.

If you don't see what you're "friends" are behaving like in these threads, that is because you choose not to.

In effect, you're condoning their behavior. It might as well be you telling me to kill myself, JO.

You should be embarrassed to be associated with the likes of the people you associate yourself with.

You really should kill yourself. It's by far the most effective thing a loser like you could do to make a real improvement in the world.





Cool man. Another one added to the archive.



BTW... there you go, JO.

Try to ignore that one in your own thread.




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Monday, January 25, 2021 4:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Sorry, I havent been keeping up here enuf to juj.

But, I do hav my own opinion on the matter.

Therez a big differens between Hillary'z loss and Trump's. From an outside obzerverz perspectiv, the Dem voterz had good reazon to feel devastated, the Trump voterz do not. Their entire perspectiv iz based on liez.

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From my perspective, JO, you're a cult member who believed four years of lies. Since I never believed Trump to begin with, I think that puts me ahead.

And I agree with SIX: look at how people behave here. Look at how the Biden* administration is behaving! With their continuing witch hunt and censorship against anyone who disagrees with them ... who they will shortly name "domestic terrorists" ... ARE THEY BEHAVING LIKE CONFIDENT WINNERS??

Or are they running like the devil was right behind them? What would cause such gibbering fear?

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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Monday, January 25, 2021 6:16 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:You really should kill yourself. It's by far the most effective thing a loser like you could do to make a real improvement in the world.


I think 6 iz rite about nasty comments like this. Its not productiv. It only makes you look bad.

All you need to do iz take the perspectiv that the most likely situation iz that he and the other karaktrz here are just that - karaktrz played by Russian troll farm employeez.

The actorz playing them are just doing their job. Probably not the same person that posted last week, or on an earlier shift! No need to hate on them. They hav a bio to adhere to so will type a mesij/respons that fits that karaktr.

Herez sumthing to think about: Wut if this entire forum haz been comandeered? Haken coud be long gone.

In that case, the FSB mite deside to shut it down if they realize the gig iz up. You'll try to log on and nothing! You'll waste a few owrz trying to find out wut happend, but its futile.

I've had my websites disapear without warning, usually kuz the hosting servis went belly up. My current corporate website, zolkorp.com'z hosting service haz been taken over by sum sort uv ner'do-wellz, likely Russian hackerz. (if you go there, klik on nothing unless you're redy to toss your computer).


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Monday, January 25, 2021 7:03 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:You really should kill yourself. It's by far the most effective thing a loser like you could do to make a real improvement in the world.


I think 6 iz rite about nasty comments like this. Its not productiv. It only makes you look bad.

All you need to do iz take the perspectiv that the most likely situation iz that he and the other karaktrz here are just that - karaktrz played by Russian troll farm employeez.

The actorz playing them are just doing their job. Probably not the same person that posted last week, or on an earlier shift! No need to hate on them. They hav a bio to adhere to so will type a mesij/respons that fits that karaktr.

Herez sumthing to think about: Wut if this entire forum haz been comandeered? Haken coud be long gone.

In that case, the FSB mite deside to shut it down if they realize the gig iz up. You'll try to log on and nothing! You'll waste a few owrz trying to find out wut happend, but its futile.

I've had my websites disapear without warning, usually kuz the hosting servis went belly up. My current corporate website, zolkorp.com'z hosting service haz been taken over by sum sort uv ner'do-wellz, likely Russian hackerz. (if you go there, klik on nothing unless you're redy to toss your computer).


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Seriously, JO? Everyone on this website except you is a Russian troll?

Your internet problems aren't due to corporate censorship and monopolies, it's all Russia's fault?

Wow, you're deep in conspiracy theories, aren't you? That's really deep, man.

******

There are two posters here I suspect are less than genuine: CAP CRUNCH who I think it's a paid shill, and REAVERBOT. I call him a bot for a reason. It's hard to imagine anyone that deeply ideologized without a history of childhood trauma, except maybe full-on Trotskyists. Maybe he is one, or maybe he's an operative, but whatever he is he's doing a wonderful job discrediting "his" side.

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Monday, January 25, 2021 7:42 PM

JO753

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Yes, seriously! But not everywun. Just you, 6, Kiki, JSF and any other suppozed GoP Trump fanz.

I apolijize if you arent, but then its your own fault for giving us the impression.

I woud segjest that you stop wejing in comments denying the TrumPutin Conspirasy into every subject if you wanted to lend any credibility to your 'not an FSB troll' claim, but really, its too late.

Duznt mean we cant hav sivil conversationz.

Another thing for you to consider - do you want to be perseevd az a smart and wiley hard working Russian ajent or merely a misinformed lazy brain gullibull Trump chump American?

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Monday, January 25, 2021 7:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



"denying the TrumPutin Conspirasy"

Is Robert Mueller a paid Russian Troll™ as well, because he wrote a whole report denying the 'TrumPutin Conspirasy'? And when I - or anyone else - point out that Mueller found no 'conspiracy' with Russians, does that make us purveyors of Russian Lies™?


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Monday, January 25, 2021 8:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:You really should kill yourself. It's by far the most effective thing a loser like you could do to make a real improvement in the world.


I think 6 iz rite about nasty comments like this. Its not productiv. It only makes you look bad.

All you need to do iz take the perspectiv that the most likely situation iz that he and the other karaktrz here are just that - karaktrz played by Russian troll farm employeez.

The actorz playing them are just doing their job. Probably not the same person that posted last week, or on an earlier shift! No need to hate on them. They hav a bio to adhere to so will type a mesij/respons that fits that karaktr.

Herez sumthing to think about: Wut if this entire forum haz been comandeered? Haken coud be long gone.

In that case, the FSB mite deside to shut it down if they realize the gig iz up. You'll try to log on and nothing! You'll waste a few owrz trying to find out wut happend, but its futile.

I've had my websites disapear without warning, usually kuz the hosting servis went belly up. My current corporate website, zolkorp.com'z hosting service haz been taken over by sum sort uv ner'do-wellz, likely Russian hackerz. (if you go there, klik on nothing unless you're redy to toss your computer).


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Um.... so....

My years of posting since 2005 or 2006 whenever I joined was all a Russian scheme?

All those conversations we had back before my drinking were just me trying to recruit you to the cause?

All the years of my drunk posting and calling people cunts when I was blitzed out of my mind is just me following Putin's orders?


I'm actually starting to get a little worried about you, JO.

I know you're finding projects to work on and you're not sitting around doing nothing with all this down time during the lockdowns, but perhaps you need to try to socialize a bit more?

Goose meet Gander, I know... but perhaps you aren't as cut out for the solitary lifestyle as I am?





And BTW... I don't go around trying to dismiss any Trump/Putin connections whenever the opportunity arises. For the most part I just ignore that nonsense. The most I ever do is laugh at it... Occasionally posting the Maddow Russia compilation video which is pure comedy gold.





Thanks for acknowledging that I was right about Marcos. This is what he writes every time he posts. Wish is hardly any better.

Ted and the Captain are a couple of real dickheads too, but nowhere near the level of the other two.


But sure... If you really feel that I'm a Russian, use whatever excuses you feel are necessary to align yourself with some of the most disgusting people I've ever met online. Cool.

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Monday, January 25, 2021 10:15 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Yes, seriously! But not everywun. Just you, 6, Kiki, JSF and any other suppozed GoP Trump fanz.

I apolijize if you arent, but then its your own fault for giving us the impression.

I woud segjest that you stop wejing in comments denying the TrumPutin Conspirasy into every subject if you wanted to lend any credibility to your 'not an FSB troll' claim, but really, its too late.

Duznt mean we cant hav sivil conversationz.

Another thing for you to consider - do you want to be perseevd az a smart and wiley hard working Russian ajent or merely a misinformed lazy brain gullibull Trump chump American?

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You're immutably convinced that there was a "conspiracy"?

This sounds like when AURAPTOR was convinced ... convinced, I tell you! ... that Saddam had WMD and nothing could shake him from that fear.

Aside from the fact that you've rejected Mueller's report, and my more than ten years of posting here seems to carry no credit with you ... what would it take to convince you that there was no conspiracy, and that I'm not Russian?

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Monday, January 25, 2021 10:50 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



IMO nothing will convince JO. He's spent his entire life rejecting what facts around him have to teach him, if they contradict what he's convinced is his brilliant insights. For example, he's convinced that his noalf is the perfect solution to the world's problems with English - despite the fact that even the people here, with years of exposure, have yet to adopt it. You'd have to be pretty obsessed to ignore a lifetime of data like that. And yet, he manages to do exactly that.

His obsession with TrumPutin - and that we're Russian Trolls™ - is in the same vein. And no amount of contradictory facts and logic --- for example, that I've been posting here starting under the name Rue BROWNCOAT ID#:6022 SINCE: 2004.05.08 18:36; and that that's an awfully long time ago for Russia to have planted me here for the sake of TrumPutin --- is going to shake him out of his 'brilliant insight'.


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Monday, January 25, 2021 11:42 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Yes, seriously! But not everywun. Just you, 6, Kiki, JSF and any other suppozed GoP Trump fanz.

I apolijize if you arent, but then its your own fault for giving us the impression.



Join us in BLOGS section, Jo. (joooin uuus joooin uuus joo... you get the point)


There's nothing here for you but suckatude and stupidity. And since the rest of us aren't here, they just gonna go after you en masse.

Leave them to chat with themselves for a while and see how they do




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Monday, January 25, 2021 11:52 PM

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You'll be back stalker.




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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 7:36 AM

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Its pretty simple.

You 3 coud hav just taken over the accounts. Its sertainly possible that you were alwayz deep cover Russian ajents, maybe even reziding in the US, but thats so much more expensiv that it woud be silly to waste so much time bickering with us nobodyz on this forum. You woud be doing like Maria Butina, trying to infiltrate the gubmit and convert influential Americanz.

And do you think nobody woud notis that all 3 uv you* agen pushed the essential colusion denial?

Herez an idea: Just admit it and tell us wut you want. A real conversation insted uv the tiresum old charade that iz clearly backfiring.

Consider the attention that woud get!

*really, it looked like the same person rote all 3 posts.

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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:48 AM

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Now JO's just being an asshole too.

There's no way he believes any of that.


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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:53 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Its pretty simple.

You 3 coud hav just taken over the accounts. Its sertainly possible that you were alwayz deep cover Russian ajents, maybe even reziding in the US, but thats so much more expensiv that it woud be silly to waste so much time bickering with us nobodyz on this forum. You woud be doing like Maria Butina, trying to infiltrate the gubmit and convert influential Americanz.

And do you think nobody woud notis that all 3 uv you* agen pushed the essential colusion denial?

Herez an idea: Just admit it and tell us wut you want. A real conversation insted uv the tiresum old charade that iz clearly backfiring.

Consider the attention that woud get!

*really, it looked like the same person rote all 3 posts.

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Maube because we all have the same question, since we're all who we say we are. I know who I am. I know for sure that I'm not SIX, or KIKI, and I know that I'm not Russian and don't have anything to do with Russia. Knowing all that, and knowing that my reponse is legitimare, it's perfectly understandable to me that anyone else in my shoes would have the same legitimate response.

Besides, why would Russia bother to construct three separate, distinct personalities for a no-account website that hardly anyone reads? Just to head-fake you. JO?

JO, I hate to say this but ... you've got a delusion going on. You're finding all kinds of unreasonable rationalizations to continue justifying your conspiracy theory.

So just OOC, since even Mueller had to admit there was no collusion, what about HIM? Is he Russian, too?

And more importantly, is there ANYTHING that would convince you that there is no grand conspiracy and that we aren't part of it? Assuming, for example, that I were to give you my real identity, would you then just assume it's an online personality? What about if you were to meet me and my family, in person, and I could even show you my birth certificate? Would you just explain that away too, that I'm just a deeply planted Russian spy? Or that I had been coopted by Russia? What if you could examine my work history, my income stream etc ... do a full investigation on my entire life in the USA and find NO connection to Russia? Would you just tell yourself that this just indicates how clever Russians are, and that justifies your paranoia?

What about the Mueller report? Did he go into exhaustive detail, bird-dogging down all of thoe allegations, big and small, and come up with a big fat zero? what if someone were to give you real evidence that the "collusion" accusation was deliberatly madeup, and you could find the origins of the story yourself, in Tump's political enemies?

Would ANY of that be persuasive?

Because if you can't think of ANYTHING that would change your mind, then I think you should reflect on your state of mind for a few days/weeks/months/years. Because at that point, you've become the equivalent of a flat-earther, and we all know how loony THEY are.

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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh... BTW... You guys can edit comments back over here.

It's not as if we can't read your posts in the Blog section or anything.

But you're not being dicks over there, so true to my word I won't go giving you any shit in there.



But really... no reason for you not to just put it in the RWED so you can edit comments. That garden thread has gone on for a long time with hardly any incident. And I have to admit that is just as much because of you as it was because of anybody who posts in there.


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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 8:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Its pretty simple.

*really, it looked like the same person rote all 3 posts.

Except for JO753, it is hard to believe there are several people posting here. With no body, no face, not even bad breath, I can't tell them apart. See if you can tell who said it?

QUIZ: Who said it? Trump, Hitler, Mussolini or Stalin?
Surprisingly, they don't sound all that different. Can you tell them apart?
http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/03/quiz-who-said-it-trump-hitl
er-mussolini-stalin
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 9:18 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

JO753:
Its pretty simple.

*really, it looked like the same person rote all 3 posts.

SECONDRATE: Except for JO753, it is hard to believe there are several people posting here. With no body, no face, not even bad breath, I can't tell them apart. See if you can tell who said it?

QUIZ: Who said it? Trump, Hitler, Mussolini or Stalin?
Surprisingly, they don't sound all that different. Can you tell them apart?
http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/03/quiz-who-said-it-trump-hitl
er-mussolini-stalin
/
]

SECONDRATE, you know EXACTLY who I am, and I know that you know. And I know you can't legally doxx me online, and I'm not about to ask you to. So stop feeding JO's paranoia; that's just evil.

JO, back to the question: what, IF ANYTHING, would convince you that there was no collusion and that we're not part of it? You can answer those questions separately or together, whichever is easier.

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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 9:28 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh... BTW... You guys can edit comments back over here.

It's not as if we can't read your posts in the Blog section or anything.

But you're not being dicks over there, so true to my word I won't go giving you any shit in there.



But really... no reason for you not to just put it in the RWED so you can edit comments. That garden thread has gone on for a long time with hardly any incident. And I have to admit that is just as much because of you as it was because of anybody who posts in there.


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I agree. I went over to the "blog" section just to see 'sup, and they're not posting anything there that they can't post over here. And furthermore, there is NOTHING preventing any of us from going over there and messing it up, except our goodwill, just as there was nothing preventing THEM (except THUGR) from going into the RAIN!!! thread and messing THAT up, except their goodwill. And nothing preventing them from participating in it, either. UNLIKE THEM, we welcome eveybody as long as they behave like reasonable human beings.

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Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:48 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


At the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

They're not going to post there very long. Being nice to each other is not what they're interested in doing when they come to fff.net, and posting about Firefly itself isn't going to hold their attention very long either.

And since we're not going bonkers like they did when Trump won now that Biden* is in, they're getting bored with posting in the RWED and maybe it's even becoming *gasp* self evident to them that they're the ones behaving like assholes, still.

Admitting that to themselves would be admitting defeat. And it would also open the doors for them to look at their behavior the last 4 years as well, when compared to how we behave when we didn't get our way. This will never happen. They've let their political beliefs become so much of their own identity that they're nothing anymore without it.

Nah. It's easier for them to just disappear from here and go argue with somebody else on some other site who's going to feed their hate.


Makes you wonder what they're going to do with themselves when the Authoritarian Left finally gets their way and shuts down all online communication that isn't in support of The Narrative. What a boring thought, huh?

They'll have nobody to argue with except for their family until the lockdown ends.

In a few cases, FFF.net might have actually saved some marriages or even lives this far into the lockdown.

Hope they can cope without somebody to argue with online whenever they need to vent.







I always made a point of saying that Trump ain't my Daddy. The sun still rises without Trump in office. Even in an America where elections don't matter anymore, I still have food on my table and water coming out of the tap. The lights are still on.

I was never personally invested in the outcome. Did things go the way I wanted them to? Of course not.

But that's life, baby. You win some, you lose some.




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Wednesday, January 27, 2021 6:50 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


^^ That ^^

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Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:57 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Besides, why would Russia bother to construct three separate, distinct personalities for a no-account website that hardly anyone reads? Just to head-fake you. JO?



Fake confirmation.

Quote:

You're finding all kinds of unreasonable rationalizations to continue justifying your conspiracy theory.


No, really! You goofed up by sticking with Trump too long. If youd admitted the plainly obvious stuff, maybe you coud hav maintained the illusion longer.

Quote:

So just OOC, since even Mueller had to admit there was no collusion...


I dont want to get bogged down in old newz, but you know thats not true. He sed he coudnt find enuf, given the limits Trumps lackeyz put on the investigation, to make a case that woud hold up in court.

My dinnerz ready. I'll get to the rest later.

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Wednesday, January 27, 2021 8:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You'd think that if I were KGB that Trump being out of office would at least bother me 1/100th as Hillary losing meant to Ted.

Wouldn't you?





Why are we even bringing his name up anymore? You guys still can't stop talking about him and you hardly ever mention Biden* at all.


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Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:03 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM: What about if you were to meet me and my family, in person, and I could even show you my birth certificate? etc etc etc....


Suppozing you convinst me, then I'd be asking how you can be so dang gullible.

This entire thred and a major chunk uv the RWED haz utterly overwelming evidens that Trump haz been working for Putin all along. Beyond evidens, really - PROOF!

Quote:

What about the Mueller report? Did he go into exhaustive detail, bird-dogging down all of thoe allegations, big and small, and come up with a big fat zero? what if someone were to give you real evidence that the "collusion" accusation was deliberatly madeup, and you could find the origins of the story yourself, in Tump's political enemies?


See? There you go agen! You cant help yourself. Its like you gize get a bonus every time you post the TrumPutin denial online.


But, to adress the Q there, how did they get Trump to partisipate in their grand hoax?

And this duznt help your case:
Quote:

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.


That woud be reazonable in a single post, even several immediately after THGGR gratuitusly mentionz Putin, but in your sig line or wutevr its called, to appear in every post, iz evidens that you want to keep that in frunt uv everybodyz eyez. Its not clever, amuzing or profound. Its not a Firefly quote.

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Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:41 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by second:Except for JO753, it is hard to believe there are several people posting here. With no body, no face, not even bad breath, I can't tell them apart. See if you can tell who said it?

QUIZ: Who said it? Trump, Hitler, Mussolini or Stalin?
Surprisingly, they don't sound all that different. Can you tell them apart?


http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/03/quiz-who-said-it-trump-hitl
er-mussolini-stalin
/

I got 4 rite! mostly by chans.

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Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:55 AM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Now JO's just being an asshole too.

There's no way he believes any of that.



Way!

Remember wen you were helping with the 7532020 tax plan and I segjested that we shoud communicate directly? (great plan, by the way. thanks agen) You flew off the handle, type babbling about doxxing. OOPS!Cover blown!

Back wen I joined this forum, before I ever looked at the RWED, you were amongst my fave new frendz. I wuz inspired by your keep-life-simple attitude, get the house projects dun, avoid BS tax & insurans expensiz. Didnt you hav Mal az your avatar bak then? I got the notion uv you az Mal if he wuz living in the same situation.

I recall Wishy warning me not to get sukt into this RWED topic.
Been a long time sins I looked in on the General Discussion.

Quote:

I was never personally invested in the outcome. Did things go the way I wanted them to? Of course not.

But that's life, baby. You win some, you lose some.



How duz that not tranzlate to 'it woud hav been great to hav our puppet in there for another 4 yirz at least'?

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Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:57 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I got 8 right.

The only time I picked Trump or Hitler, they were both right. The rest of the time I picked either Mussolini or Stalin for the other 6.


But it says that 6-10 was a "Yuge disappointment", so :(



You gotta let that Russian thing go man.


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Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Way!

Remember wen you were helping with the 7532020 tax plan and I segjested that we shoud communicate directly? (great plan, by the way. thanks agen) You flew off the handle, type babbling about doxxing. OOPS!Cover blown!



I didn't fly off the handle. I've always been a bit paranoid though.

I'm sure a smart guy like you can dig up some metadata off of my photos I've posted.

;)

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Back wen I joined this forum, before I ever looked at the RWED, you were amongst my fave new frendz. I wuz inspired by your keep-life-simple attitude, get the house projects dun, avoid BS tax & insurans expensiz. Didnt you hav Mal az your avatar bak then? I got the notion uv you az Mal if he wuz living in the same situation.


Yeah. I had Mal as my pic back then. I always thought of myself more like Shephard Book though... at least until I let the booze consume me, anyway.

But I'm back to doing the house projects, making as little as possible so I can sleep at night knowing that I'm not paying for wars I don't agree with, and I haven't paid for homeowners insurance in 6 years.



Quote:

I recall Wishy warning me not to get sukt into this RWED topic.
Been a long time sins I looked in on the General Discussion.



I told her the same thing too. "This place is poison", I think were my exact words.

Quote:

Quote:

I was never personally invested in the outcome. Did things go the way I wanted them to? Of course not.

But that's life, baby. You win some, you lose some.



How duz that not tranzlate to 'it woud hav been great to hav our puppet in there for another 4 yirz at least'?



How does it translate to that?

Are you suggesting I should instead be out in the streets burning shit down like Democrats do when they don't get their way?

Nah, man.

I did a fine job fucking up my life to have enough work fixing things for two more lifetimes.

Let people with more free time deal with the world's problems that they have no control over.




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Thursday, January 28, 2021 1:04 AM

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8 iz pretty good. You must know sum history.

I may hav gotten more, but didnt bother to klik the more button.

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Thursday, January 28, 2021 2:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
there is NOTHING preventing any of us from going over there and messing it up, except our "goodwill"





Wonder why they seem to NEED us to stay here so much, Jo...Why would they want to mess Blogs up??

Uh huh.





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Thursday, January 28, 2021 2:30 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM: What about if you were to meet me and my family, in person, and I could even show you my birth certificate? etc etc etc....

JO: Suppozing you convinst me, then I'd be asking how you can be so dang gullible.
This entire thred and a major chunk uv the RWED haz utterly overwelming evidens that Trump haz been working for Putin all along. Beyond evidens, really - PROOF!

Where is this "proof" of which you speak? If it's so evident, how come Mueller couldnt find it with three years, a couple-dozen lawyers plus the FBI, and a $32 million dollars?

Quote:

SIGNY: What about the Mueller report? Did he go into exhaustive detail, bird-dogging down all of thoe allegations, big and small, and come up with a big fat zero? what if someone were to give you real evidence that the "collusion" accusation was deliberatly madeup, and you could find the origins of the story yourself, in Tump's political enemies?

JO: See? There you go agen! You cant help yourself. Its like you gize get a bonus every time you post the TrumPutin denial online.
But, to adress the Q there, how did they get Trump to partisipate in their grand hoax?

You didn't answer the question about Mueller. He found no collusion. Was he in on it, too? Another one of Putin's (many) puppets?

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JO: And this duznt help your case:
Quote:

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.


That woud be reazonable in a single post, even several immediately after THGGR gratuitusly mentionz Putin, but in your sig line or wutevr its called, to appear in every post, iz evidens that you want to keep that in frunt uv everybodyz eyez. Its not clever, amuzing or profound. Its not a Firefly quote.

] THUGR has so unfairly called me a "Russian troll" so many times, I figure he's got a couple hundred repetitions coming his way. Just payback for being such an a-hole

JO, your problem is that you're seeing patterns that don't exist. Your mind rejects the obvious explanation (DNC and establishment GOP are both corrupt, unelected "intelligence" officials and oligarchs run the government, people realize that they're getting screwed but they don't know who to blame and who to trust) that you make up an elaborate story that puts the blame someplace else... ANYPLACE else... besides in the good ol' USA elite, right where it belongs.

TPTB have fucked up a lot of things, including your life. Put the blame where it belongs and stop overcomplicating things.

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