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Comey Testifies To Congress He Leaked Classified Info - A Felony.

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Friday, June 9, 2017 10:52 PM

6STRINGJOKER


I do believe that G is correct and anything in question was not classified information.

That being said, "leaked" and "gave" in this situation are exactly the same thing. Don't be cute.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:37 AM

WISHIMAY


I love the tone of the testimony, it's pretty clear Comey thought Trump was a royal scumbag after about ten minutes with the guy.

I keep wondering if Trump asks himself every day "What ethically murky, technically legal thing can I get up to today?"

And what's up with yer spelling up there on the headline? Testiufies? Did you have someone hold yer beer while you typed that?

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 1:44 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Nothing is illegal if it's done for " The Resistance ".

Or if you're just a Democrat, in general.


Actually saw my first ' RESIST ' bumper sticker today. Some white gal driving what looked to be a high end luxury Acura.

Apparently didn't check her white privilege yet.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 3:42 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Then arrest that man. Simple solution.

Next case!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Surprise, surprise.
he was jumping around the logic, trying to conjure some excuse for his Act of Treason


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-lawyer-file-leak-com
plaint-after-comey-testimony-source-says-n770231



http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-
updates-read-trump-lawyer-marc-kasowitz-s-1496945767-htmlstory.html


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Saturday, June 10, 2017 3:57 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


So I guess Trump "leaking" that Obama wiretapped him at Trump Tower is not a chargeable offense.

Let's look at the definition of leak: "unauthorized (especially deliberate) disclosure of confidential information"

Was what Comey delivered confidential? In other words, was it classified?
If the answer is yes, then Comey violated the law. But wait, didn't he check with the Special Counsel before his testimony? If anyone would know if it was illegal, it would be him.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I do believe that G is correct and anything in question was not classified information.

That being said, "leaked" and "gave" in this situation are exactly the same thing. Don't be cute.


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Saturday, June 10, 2017 6:52 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Funny how all of the non-classified information "given" out on a daily basis by the FBI was everything except for the fact that Trump was never under FBI investigation?

Comey proved on many occasions in his testimony what a coward he is.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Funny how all of the non-classified information "given" out on a daily basis by the FBI was everything except for the fact that Trump was never under FBI investigation?

Comey proved on many occasions in his testimony what a coward he is.



Also, what came out in Comey's testimony was that the memo that he wrote was NOT a word-for-word version of the conversation, but one that had certain classified details edited out. And what else, I wonder?

Yanno, Comey himself is not a sterling example of ethical fortitude. When Loretta Lynch called on him to call the Hillary investigation a "matter" instead of an investigation, he caved.

When the NYT printed rumors about Trump that Comey KNEW to be untrue ... at least one article claiming to cite classified information ... Comey neither contradicted the article nor investigated the supposed leaker.

When Diane Feinstein asked Comey (in essence) why didn't you bring your concerns up at the time ... about two separate conversations ... Comey himself said "Well, it (ph) was kind of a slightly cowardly way of trying to avoid telling him [Trump]" and "Maybe if I were stronger, I would have."

I have a link to the full transcript and my analysis of it so far over here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&p=5

I'm not impressed with Comey. He seems to be a waffler.

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Saturday, June 10, 2017 9:37 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Leak or not, at the end what we have here then is the fact that tons of information was given away that allowed the Rachel Maddows of the world to say for months that Trump was under investigation for ties with Russia when it was never true.

If this was all on the up and up, why were all of the sources "anonymous"... especially Comey the Coward?

There was collusion and a coordinated smear campaign against Trump, and the MSM and the Democrats still butt hurt about Hillary losing were more than happy to be a part of it and buy into it.

You need to ask yourself if this is the way that you want to see the relationship between the Government and the MSM to operate from this day forward. Remember that the next time it might be a guy or gal sitting in that chair that you actually like.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:37 PM

WISHIMAY


Was reading on the web, and someone made a good point about the Trump dossier...


"Comey just yesterday said he could not talk about the validity of the Dossier in an open setting

If the Dossier had been completly false, Comey would have said that"


He already said there wasn't an investigation into Russia ties, so he would have NO REASON to not say the dossier wasn't real. Not that I didn't know that already.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 7:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Comey just yesterday said he could not talk about the validity of the Dossier in an open setting

If the Dossier had been completly false, Comey would have said that



Whatever.

That goes into the bin of ... somebody said that somebody thinks that somebody said that somebody thinks that somebody said that somebody thinks that ... squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak around and around goes the hamster wheel ...

Btw, I just find it absoFUCKINGlutely ridiculous that **I** have to keep defending Trump, of all people.

Not because I supported him (my vote went to **NOT HILLARY**) but because the dems are cowardly fucking liars and assholes who wouldn't know the meaning of the words EVIDENCE, HONOR, and INTEGRITY if they spent the next 100 years studying them.





Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 9:21 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
He already said there wasn't an investigation into Russia ties, so he would have NO REASON to not say the dossier wasn't real. Not that I didn't know that already.



Who knows why Comey did and does anything? He had no reason not to tell the press that Trump wasn't under investigation. Everything else about what is going on had been leaked except for that.

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Saturday, June 10, 2017 9:26 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

There are 5 other ongoing investigations into Trump / Russia connections. I just posted that yesterday and you replied - have you forgotten that already?- GSTRING
Yep, just another indication of the giant clusterfuck that is driven by partisan leaking and media fear-mongering.

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Sunday, June 11, 2017 10:35 AM

WISHIMAY


Ex-Twitter Ceo summed it up perfectly:

Comey testifies Trump lied on multiple occasions & the White House calls testimony a victory. Tells you all you need to know about Trump.


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Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:14 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Ex-Twitter Ceo summed it up perfectly:

Comey testifies Trump lied on multiple occasions & the White House calls testimony a victory. Tells you all you need to know about Trump.



Tells me all I need to know about the (ex) CEO of Twitter, and all I need to know about you, too.

Just because Trump lies doesn't mean that Comey is telling the truth. Or that the (ex) CEO of T(w)itter is either. That's naive, to trust that they have your interests at heart.

Did you ever watch House? He had a frequent famous line: "Everybody lies".

Especially politicians, spooks, and CEOs, because that's their job.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:15 PM

OONJERAH



And Preachers, because that's their job.




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Monday, June 12, 2017 12:41 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

And Preachers, because that's their job.





Amen.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 12:58 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Tells me all I need to know about the (ex) CEO of Twitter,




I'm no fan of Twitter, but I have noticed that everyone that has an IQ over 100 seems to figure out Trumpwad is just a dickwad who twists EVERYTHING.
He lies about everything (what was it like 75% of the time?) So, I believe Comey more. Just the fact that he thinks Trumpwad is slimy is enough.

And I think I've said a billion times, don't really care what y'all think of me. I'm here because I'm bored and I like the format. You've got some massive issues your own self, so why WOULD I care what you think of me??


It's like having one of THESE people tell you "You're a little odd".
http://www.cracked.com/pictofacts-340-24-famous-historical-figures-you
-didnt-know-were-insane
/


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Monday, June 12, 2017 1:38 AM

6STRINGJOKER


I'm calling bullshit. You don't know anybody with a 3 digit IQ.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 3:33 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I'm calling bullshit. You don't know anybody with a 3 digit IQ.



My kid tested out at about 130 by her school

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Monday, June 12, 2017 9:35 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Some people win the lotto... Other people accidentally get the wrong baby handed to them at the redneck hospital.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 4:38 PM

OONJERAH


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
You've got some massive issues your own self,
so why WOULD I care what you think of me??



Destined to become a classic line.



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Monday, June 12, 2017 5:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448529/comey-memos-leaking-impro
per


interesting legal discussion about Comey leaking information to the NYTimes
Quote:

George Washington University’s Jonathan Turley does a good job in The Hill* outlining much of the relevant law. One major issue is whether these documents belonged to Comey, in the sense of being his property rather than the government’s. That is the position he took in his testimony. Like Turley, I think the former director is wrong.

* http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/337160-opinio
n-the-damaging-case-against-james-comey


As a longtime prosecutor, I have a black-and-white test for this sort of thing: Would a judge in a criminal trial consider the documents to be government property for purposes of federal discovery law? That law requires the government to disclose to the defense any prior statement made by a witness, written or otherwise recorded, that is in the government’s possession. It also mandates that the government disclose any information that is material to the preparation of the defense (such as evidentiary exhibits that the prosecution plans to introduce into evidence). Finally, the government must produce any exculpatory evidence — meaning, any evidence that (a) suggests the accused is not guilty, (b) contradicts the prosecution’s theory of the case, or (c) could be used to impeach a witness’s testimony. Comey’s notes may fall into all three of those disclosure categories.

... what would happen if a prosecutor in the case argued to the presiding judge that the government did not need to disclose Comey’s notes because they are his personal property and not in the government’s possession? Rest assured, the judge would blow a gasket, and rightly so.

The memos were written by an FBI official, apparently on FBI equipment, and related directly to FBI investigative business. Indeed, the fact that investigative business was central to Trump’s conversations with the former director is what induced Comey to write the memos: He perceived the president’s statements as political intrusion into law-enforcement investigations and intelligence probes. The memos were thus government property, and the then-director was obliged to make sure they were retained in government files.

That does not mean it would have been improper for Comey to keep a copy of them for himself. But doing that would not change the character of the memos as government property, and it would not relieve Comey of the obligation to comply with all government disclosure restrictions on the contents of the memos.

At the Federalist, Bre Payton reproduces a copy of the standard FBI employment agreement*, making a persuasive argument that Comey’s memos are government property and that the former director’s disclosure of information in them to unauthorized persons violated the employment agreement’s terms. Nor would the memos’ status as government documents turn on whether or not the documents were physically placed in the government’s files. Nor would their storage outside the government’s filing system relieve the government of any disclosure obligations in a criminal case; a court would simply rule that the government constructively possessed the documents through Comey, who was its agent when he made and retained them. The government would be responsible for securing them and complying with its disclosure obligations.
* http://thefederalist.com/2017/06/09/james-comey-violate-fbi-employment
-agreement
/

But, given the extremely lax standard Hillary was held to, I'm not surprised that Comey would apply the same attitude toward himself. Rules are meant to be broken, as long as you can rationalize your actions to yourself as meeting some other criteria you hold more dear.





Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 5:25 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:


Destined to become a classic line.





Our old truck has a bumper sticker that says "Don't worry what people think...They don't do it very often"

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Monday, June 12, 2017 5:27 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

But, given the extremely lax standard Hillary was held to, I'm not surprised that Comey would apply the same attitude toward himself. Rules are meant to be broken, as long as you can rationalize your actions to yourself as meeting some other criteria you hold more dear.




Well, then being a Trumptard must take a hella ton of rationalization.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 5:29 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Other people accidentally get the wrong baby handed to them at the redneck hospital.




Interesting life story, brah. I bet your parents WERE pretty disappointed...

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Monday, June 12, 2017 6:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
But, given the extremely lax standard Hillary was held to, I'm not surprised that Comey would apply the same attitude toward himself. Rules are meant to be broken, as long as you can rationalize your actions to yourself as meeting some other criteria you hold more dear.

Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Well, then being a Trumptard must take a hella ton of rationalization.

And there's Wishi - always keeping it classy. And by classy, I mean trailer-trash style.




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 6:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


MEANWHILE - back to the topic of whether or not Comey's leaks were illegal, or merely conniving.


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448529/comey-memos-leaking-impro
per


interesting legal discussion about Comey leaking information to the NYTimes
Quote:

George Washington University’s Jonathan Turley does a good job in The Hill* outlining much of the relevant law. One major issue is whether these documents belonged to Comey, in the sense of being his property rather than the government’s. That is the position he took in his testimony. Like Turley, I think the former director is wrong.

* http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/337160-opinio
n-the-damaging-case-against-james-comey


As a longtime prosecutor, I have a black-and-white test for this sort of thing: Would a judge in a criminal trial consider the documents to be government property for purposes of federal discovery law? That law requires the government to disclose to the defense any prior statement made by a witness, written or otherwise recorded, that is in the government’s possession. It also mandates that the government disclose any information that is material to the preparation of the defense (such as evidentiary exhibits that the prosecution plans to introduce into evidence). Finally, the government must produce any exculpatory evidence — meaning, any evidence that (a) suggests the accused is not guilty, (b) contradicts the prosecution’s theory of the case, or (c) could be used to impeach a witness’s testimony. Comey’s notes may fall into all three of those disclosure categories.

... what would happen if a prosecutor in the case argued to the presiding judge that the government did not need to disclose Comey’s notes because they are his personal property and not in the government’s possession? Rest assured, the judge would blow a gasket, and rightly so.

The memos were written by an FBI official, apparently on FBI equipment, and related directly to FBI investigative business. Indeed, the fact that investigative business was central to Trump’s conversations with the former director is what induced Comey to write the memos: He perceived the president’s statements as political intrusion into law-enforcement investigations and intelligence probes. The memos were thus government property, and the then-director was obliged to make sure they were retained in government files.

That does not mean it would have been improper for Comey to keep a copy of them for himself. But doing that would not change the character of the memos as government property, and it would not relieve Comey of the obligation to comply with all government disclosure restrictions on the contents of the memos.

At the Federalist, Bre Payton reproduces a copy of the standard FBI employment agreement*, making a persuasive argument that Comey’s memos are government property and that the former director’s disclosure of information in them to unauthorized persons violated the employment agreement’s terms. Nor would the memos’ status as government documents turn on whether or not the documents were physically placed in the government’s files. Nor would their storage outside the government’s filing system relieve the government of any disclosure obligations in a criminal case; a court would simply rule that the government constructively possessed the documents through Comey, who was its agent when he made and retained them. The government would be responsible for securing them and complying with its disclosure obligations.
* http://thefederalist.com/2017/06/09/james-comey-violate-fbi-employment
-agreement
/

But, given the extremely lax standard Hillary was held to, I'm not surprised that Comey would apply the same attitude toward himself. Rules are meant to be broken, as long as you can rationalize your actions to yourself as meeting some other criteria you hold more dear.





Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 6:31 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
And there's Wishi - always keeping it classy. And by classy, I mean trailer-trash style.



Yeah. She's a regular queen of the trailer park.

At least her daughter Rapunzel won't have to grow her hair out very long since they don't make trailer-towers. Poor girl being locked up tight and home schooled by psychotic man-hating mom who has nothing nice to say about anybody or anything, and her only male influence is a pilled-up, emasculated dad who needs to be drugged up to deal with mom and that pool of man-hating estrogen he's barely treading.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 9:23 PM

WISHIMAY


That the best you can do?

Still got more going for me than YOU.




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Monday, June 12, 2017 9:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Wishi - are you auditioning for Jerry Springer? Or gradeschool bully?




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 9:57 PM

OONJERAH



CNN. Lawmakers to Trump: Release Comey tapes if they exist.



Oonj: hmmmm. Good idea.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 9:58 PM

6STRINGJOKER


I'm finding it quite comical. All I've heard out of Wishy for about three days now is this:


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Monday, June 12, 2017 9:58 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

CNN. Lawmakers to Trump: Release Comey tapes if they exist.



Oonj: hmmmm. Good idea.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...



I third that notion.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 10:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


That would be good.
Quote:

Originally posted by Oonjerah:

CNN. Lawmakers to Trump: Release Comey tapes if they exist.



Oonj: hmmmm. Good idea.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

Though ... as I think about it - Trump can give no right answer here that will satisfy his critics. If he says - hey folks, just bluffing ... then people will call him a liar about claiming to have the tapes, OR they'll say he DOES have recordings but he's lying about not having them instead. If he DOES release tapes, then his critics will claim he's withholding the worst parts.

Basically, his critics will discredit him, no matter what.




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 10:31 PM

WISHIMAY


Good, we're all in agreement.

6 IS a joker... yanno...the ones you just take out of the deck 'cuz no one wants to play with 'em in a real game.

The motion to give him a lobotomy and sit him in front of a Huffpost feed until he learns the white male really isn't the center of the world and that Trump's legacy is proving that fact every day in every way...

PASSES.


Now, for the next Motion:

The Communications Over Various Feeds Electronically for Engagement, or — wait for it — COVFEFE Act — would add social media posts to the list of records filed under the Presidential Records Act.

"In order to maintain trust in government, elected officials must answer for what they do and say," Quigley, an Illinois representative, said in a statement. "This includes 140-character tweets."




Enshrining PERMENENTLY the ridiculousness of our 45th idiot in charge.
I noticed that people are using "covfefe" in place of the word "bullshite" on the webs and I find it completely appropriate.



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Monday, June 12, 2017 10:39 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Wishi... Or gradeschool bully?



He's sober now, if he wants to play with the big kids then he needs to get kicked in the stupid every now and then. And there be a lot of stupid to kick.

Just call me John Wayne baby, because I don't take shit offa NOBODY.








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Monday, June 12, 2017 10:41 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:


Basically, his critics will discredit him, no matter what.





You'd have to HAVE credit to be DIScredited, and he lost that a half dozen bankruptcies ago.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 10:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
You'd have to HAVE credit to be DIScredited, and he lost that a half dozen bankruptcies ago.

What does this have to do with anything? The way it'll play out will be that NOTHING will satisfy his critics. If that isn't an indication of closed-minded, biased people who have no respect for facts, I don't know what is.

BTW - those are my predictions.
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Trump can give no right answer here that will satisfy his critics. If he says - hey folks, just bluffing ... then people will call him a liar about claiming to have the tapes, OR they'll say he DOES have recordings but he's lying about not having them instead. If he DOES release tapes, then his critics will claim he's withholding the worst parts.
I invite you to 'reply with quote' to memorialize them.

We'll see how it goes.




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:26 AM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Wishi... Or gradeschool bully?



He's sober now, if he wants to play with the big kids then he needs to get kicked in the stupid every now and then. And there be a lot of stupid to kick.

Just call me John Wayne baby, because I don't take shit offa NOBODY.










I think the grade school bully thing was because of how juvenile everything you say sounds Wishy.

You are a sad, aging woman nearing menopause who is miserable with her life and her choices and needs to constantly bitch and complain about everything to anybody who will listen to you. You're even aware of the fact that nobody is listening to you anymore here about it, but continue to post because.... reasons.

Feel free to exercise your demons all you want to on me. Your like a gnat.




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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:54 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


That's the key isn't it? Never under investigation, and Comey was never supposed to release that bit of information. Ok, he's the fucking president, he has a right to know. So, he tells him. You would think that would be enough for the dumb motherfucker, but noooooooooo, he wants a public spectacle.

Only thing is that stupid fucking Comey already screwed the pooch with the reveal of
Hillary's "undisclosed" emails that proved to be nothing, so he fucked himself, his credibility. So now he has to maintain that everything is still open until the investigation is complete.

Now try to follow this, if you can. I'll go slow, so as not to distract you guys.

The president, Trump that is.....got it. Okay, he's innocent, right! So a normal thinking person says, I did nothing wrong, so maybe I let them continue the investigation.......they find nothing........and prove my innocence.

CASE CLOSED! We can move on with the business of running the country into the ground. Right! Nothing to see here, I'm innocent!

Doesn't that make sense!

Okay........slow enough for ya!

The FBI does their job and proves the Great and Powerful Drumpf is nothing but a SAINT! End of story!

So, my question is this.....Why the FUCK stop Comey and the FBI from proving that Trump is innocent?

I await your brilliant answer.


SGG


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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Funny how all of the non-classified information "given" out on a daily basis by the FBI was everything except for the fact that Trump was never under FBI investigation?

Comey proved on many occasions in his testimony what a coward he is.


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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:58 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Hey Six, go get your own avatar. I laid claim to this last year in a post to your less the capable comrades!


SGG



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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:03 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Great logic there Kiki....only one small problem, he's got no credibility!

THERE ARE NO TAPES, HE'S BLUFFING AS USUAL!

Just like the birth certificate, just like the "wiretapping" - they don't exist, except in the mind (that's a stretch) of Trump.

FUUUUCKkkk are you guys gullible!


SGG


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
That would be good.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:

CNN. Lawmakers to Trump: Release Comey tapes if they exist.



Oonj: hmmmm. Good idea.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

Though ... as I think about it - Trump can give no right answer here that will satisfy his critics. If he says - hey folks, just bluffing ... then people will call him a liar about claiming to have the tapes, OR they'll say he DOES have recordings but he's lying about not having them instead. If he DOES release tapes, then his critics will claim he's withholding the worst parts.

Basically, his critics will discredit him, no matter what.




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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:44 AM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
That's the key isn't it? Never under investigation, and Comey was never supposed to release that bit of information. Ok, he's the fucking president, he has a right to know. So, he tells him. You would think that would be enough for the dumb motherfucker, but noooooooooo, he wants a public spectacle.



The problem SGG is that there was already a public spectacle. The MSM has been attacking Trump since November 9th, and they have been running articles saying that Trump was under FBI investigation for ties with Russia for months now.

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Only thing is that stupid fucking Comey already screwed the pooch with the reveal of
Hillary's "undisclosed" emails that proved to be nothing, so he fucked himself, his credibility. So now he has to maintain that everything is still open until the investigation is complete.



You're referring to the "Duty to Correct", that he certainly didn't want to go through again. That is understandable. The thing is... he could have come out and told the American People that there is currently no FBI investigation into Trump at this time. It would have been easy enough to just add those three words at the end, and if there was to be an investigation on Trump in the future he would have no duty to correct.

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Now try to follow this, if you can. I'll go slow, so as not to distract you guys.


I'm going to assume you're talking to 1kiki and Sigs that way, and that wasn't directed at me. I think that I've been cordial enough with you after we had our little white flag session a while back that this is unnecessary.

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The president, Trump that is.....got it. Okay, he's innocent, right! So a normal thinking person says, I did nothing wrong, so maybe I let them continue the investigation.......they find nothing........and prove my innocence.


For how long should he wait? The next 3 1/2 years until he loses the next election because the American People believe he is under a lengthy FBI investigation that the MSM is saying he's guilty of?

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CASE CLOSED! We can move on with the business of running the country into the ground. Right! Nothing to see here, I'm innocent!


Obama and GWB did a fine job of that for the better part of two decades. I don't see any proof yet that Trump is doing any worse than either of them did.

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So, my question is this.....Why the FUCK stop Comey and the FBI from proving that Trump is innocent?

I await your brilliant answer.



You have it.


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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Funny how all of the non-classified information "given" out on a daily basis by the FBI was everything except for the fact that Trump was never under FBI investigation?

Comey proved on many occasions in his testimony what a coward he is.




Oh... you were talking directly to me. That wasn't very nice.


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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 3:30 PM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
What does (bankruptcies) have to do with anything? The way it'll play out will be that NOTHING will satisfy his critics. If that isn't an indication of closed-minded, biased people who have no respect for facts, I don't know what is.




EVERYTHING. He doesn't pay his bills. I thought conservatives don't like people that don't pay their bills? Or is it just brown people that don't pay their bills...

And don't be such a huge goddamn hypocrite. We all know EVERY Pres. gets torn apart no matter what they do and that's a great thing. We have the right to question them and I hope it makes them think hard about EVERY little thing they do. Expecting no one to question results in fascism.


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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 3:43 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

I think the grade school bully thing was because of how juvenile everything you say sounds Wishy.

You are a sad, aging woman nearing menopause...







ME JUVENILE? Court reporter, could you play back the shit you've posted from the last five years...Thanks. Yeah, I am a genius compared to your drivel. And it's Ok, mommy Kiki will come to the rescue of all poor wittle drunken misogynists. You don't have to stand...for anything. You have the worst work ethic in the country and you think you should get a say in how the country is run??? What a joker you are...

BTW, I'd LOVE to have me some menopause, you moron. My grandmother was still popping them out in her 40's so I probably have another decade to go. Unlike your teeth.... And you call me a redneck *snort*

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:11 PM

6STRINGJOKER


lol

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Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:14 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I do believe that G is correct and anything in question was not classified information.

That being said, "leaked" and "gave" in this situation are exactly the same thing. Don't be cute.



No they aren't. Fox and Trump and Trump's lawyers are using "leaked" to imply an illegal act (and Trump supporters are no doubt falling for it, see JSF).
Reality Winner leaked documents. Leaking implies making public classified or restricted information that is not suppose to be made public. These were his notes to do with as he pleased, including giving them to someone, anyone.

Incorrect. FBI regulations identify "notes" of any FBI employee (including the Director) as property of the FBI. Comey did not have authorization to release this FBI property resulting from meetings occurring while in official capacity for the FBI.

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Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:18 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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Comey just yesterday said he could not talk about the validity of the Dossier in an open setting

If the Dossier had been completly false, Comey would have said that



Whatever.

That goes into the bin of ... somebody said that somebody thinks that somebody said that somebody thinks that somebody said that somebody thinks that ... squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak around and around goes the hamster wheel ...

Btw, I just find it absoFUCKINGlutely ridiculous that **I** have to keep defending Trump, of all people.

Not because I supported him (my vote went to **NOT HILLARY**) but because the dems are cowardly fucking liars and assholes who wouldn't know the meaning of the words EVIDENCE, HONOR, and INTEGRITY if they spent the next 100 years studying them.


Heh. Good post. I've been busy and didn't get to it until now.

I notice many posts in this thread seem to suggest shock that a lifelong Democrat such as Trump would resort to lying, or has predilections towards nonstop lying. Just because he has now been lying about becoming a Republican for almost a year now, doesn't mean he (or any other Democrat) could self-abort his falsehoods - or his tweets.

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Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:25 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I'm calling bullshit. You don't know anybody with a 3 digit IQ.



My kid tested out at about 130 by her school

What scale?

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