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Friday, July 14, 2017 5:25 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yes, there are all kinds of wonderful ideas out there. But progress will be incremental, not found in one technical solution or implemented by one entity. We will not avoid global warming - Since we're already experiencing it, that option is closed. The only issue is: how much? When? And are we preparing for it?

If it's really as critical as all that, SECOND, you might want to rethink the whole concept of carbon sequestration for your ranching operations. I know it's expensive, but how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem? You could contact the Nature Conservancy, they have had great success in helping ranchers improve their operations.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, July 14, 2017 6:06 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yes, there are all kinds of wonderful ideas out there. But progress will be incremental, not found in one technical solution or implemented by one entity. We will not avoid global warming - Since we're already experiencing it, that option is closed. The only issue is: how much? When? And are we preparing for it?

If it's really as critical as all that, SECOND, you might want to rethink the whole concept of carbon sequestration for your ranching operations. I know it's expensive, but how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem? You could contact the Nature Conservancy, they have had great success in helping ranchers improve their operations.

There is no way in hell I'll sacrifice myself for the good of planet Earth while all the neighboring ranches do the exact opposite and cancel everything out.

I was thinking more along the path of at least two Manhattan Project size projects:

1) Build a climate change computer model that politicians will believe. So long as they can convince themselves that the worst that could happen isn't so bad, they will spend not enough on climate change in the USA.

2) Get the best battery banks in the world built. It will be no more expensive than building, say, 30,000 H-bombs which was rather a futile effort and it sure would be more useful. Besides, it will create jobs. See John Goodenough.
www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a25536/inventor-lithium-ion-ba
ttery-invented-another-battery
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, July 14, 2017 9:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, basically ...

1) "I'd cut off my nose to spite my face.", and ...

2) "I'm as Republican as the next guy because I let them determine my behavior".

SECOND, your GOP neighbor cannot "undue" what you do. If you sequester five tons of carbon dioxide per year, that's five tons of carbon dioxide per year, irrespective of what your neighbor does or doesn't do. In addition, you can gain MONETARY benefits because your ranches can become more productive; perhaps you can even make then available for private-party hunting (fees) or tourism, for example. You really should look into it; there may be more in it for you than you imagine.

I agree that individual action is not a substitute for collective action; "Hitler would not have been stopped by dumpster-diving". OTOH, if you can set a good example, particularly if it makes money for you, you might be able to motivate others to do similarly.

I personally carry on my passion for the environment personally (individual action like recycling); professionally (thru my choice of employment); collectively through interest groups; and politically through advocacy, voting, and direct support of specific politicians. The actions aren't mutually exclusive, you know.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Friday, July 14, 2017 10:18 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, basically ...

1) "I'd cut off my nose to spite my face.", and ...

2) "I'm as Republican as the next guy because I let them determine my behavior".

SECOND, your GOP neighbor cannot "undue" what you do. If you sequester five tons of carbon dioxide per year, that's five tons of carbon dioxide per year, irrespective of what your neighbor does or doesn't do. In addition, you can gain MONETARY benefits because your ranches can become more productive; perhaps you can even make then available for private-party hunting (fees) or tourism, for example. You really should look into it; there may be more in it for you than you imagine.

I agree that individual action is not a substitute for collective action; "Hitler would not have been stopped by dumpster-diving". OTOH, if you can set a good example, particularly if it makes money for you, you might be able to motivate others to do similarly.

I personally carry on my passion for the environment personally (individual action like recycling); professionally (thru my choice of employment); collectively through interest groups; and politically through advocacy, voting, and direct support of specific politicians. The actions aren't mutually exclusive, you know.

Basically, you have a false behavioral model of me in your mind. I refuse to turn my life upside down to become a better Democrat. I live in Texas, cash natural gas royalty checks, kill animals with guns, and I am the 1%. The GOP should be my party by my nature, but it is not since I deviate by voting only for Democrats. You, on the other hand, are living the life, approximately, of an environmentally concerned Democrat. Maybe you should become an actual Democrat and I should vote for Trump the Incompetent Loudmouth Liar in 2020? Then the life we live would be more consistent with our votes.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 15, 2017 7:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Basically, you have a false behavioral model of me in your mind. I refuse to turn my life upside down to become a better Democrat. I live in Texas, cash natural gas royalty checks, kill animals with guns, and I am the 1%. The GOP should be my party by my nature, but it is not since I deviate by voting only for Democrats.
Basically, you're a Republican.

If you truly thought that all of the things that you gripe about endlessly were REAL problems, you've be interested in doing something about them. But since that might conflict with your lifestyle, you've made carping endlessly about all things GOP your life's (pointless) mission instead.

Now, I don't know WHY you have such an emotional grotch against the GOP - clearly, you're not trying to solve real-world problems (Maybe they're white and you're Hispanic? Maybe you're feeling guilty about unearned privilege? Maybe you're rebelling against family tradition?) but you're substituting useless action instead of engaging in anything meaningful which might cramp your lifestyle.

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You, on the other hand, are living the life, approximately, of an environmentally concerned Democrat. Maybe you should become an actual Democrat and I should vote for Trump the Incompetent Loudmouth Liar in 2020? Then the life we live would be more consistent with our votes.- SECOND
And clearly, you don't pay the least bit of attention to anyone but yourself. As I've said .... oh, probably an dozen times by now ... I actually AM a registered Democrat, and voted Democrat nearly all of the time, except when I voted Green, or for Trump.

And I DO think that we face real problems, which I'm actually doing something about.

Now, the liberals here might wonder why I, a committed environmentalist, would vote for Trump, and the reason is that the Democratic leadership fully abandoned its principles about 30 years ago, and they deserve to fail.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Saturday, July 15, 2017 8:20 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Now, I don't know WHY you have such an emotional grotch against the GOP - clearly, you're not trying to solve real-world problems (Maybe they're white and you're Hispanic? Maybe you're feeling guilty about unearned privilege? Maybe you're rebelling against family tradition?) but you're substituting useless action instead of engaging in anything meaningful which might cramp your lifestyle.

And clearly, you don't pay the least bit of attention to anyone but yourself. As I've said .... oh, probably an dozen times by now ... I actually AM a registered Democrat, and voted Democrat nearly all of the time, except when I voted Green, or for Trump.

And I DO think that we face real problems, which I'm actually doing something about.

Now, the liberals here might wonder why I, a committed environmentalist, would vote for Trump, and the reason is that the Democratic leadership fully abandoned its principles about 30 years ago, and they deserve to fail.

Hey, Signym, I call bullshit on your explanation of your vote for Trump. You and 1kiki said that Hillary would cause WWIII with Russia. I think your prediction was silly, but at least it was a real explanation for you voting Trump 2016.

But if you think that “Democratic leadership fully abandoned its principles” you are fully nuts. You lost touch with the GOP reality, Signym:

Did Senator Ted Cruz (TX GOP) understand the problems with his amendment when he dreamed it up, but didn’t care? Or did he just not bother to check with anyone who understood health policy before he proposed it? It’s the eternal conundrum: Are Republicans Evil or Stupid?
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/07/health-insurers-have-finally-ha
d-enough
/

Or this Republican opinion piece about killing Social Security. Is the Republican argument against Social Security simply evil or stupid?
www.msn.com/en-us/money/retirement/opinion-why-its-time-to-kill-social
-security/ar-BBEpoXW?ocid=spartanntp


Signym, when you voted for Trump in order to protect the world from Hillary, you also got every rotten GOP scoundrel's policy along with every bad action in Trump’s past. As a special bonus, you got Mike Pence and Trump’s inability to focus on any problem bigger or other than his family & business empire.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 15, 2017 11:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Hey, Signym, I call bullshit on your explanation of your vote for Trump. You and 1kiki said that Hillary would cause WWIII with Russia. I think your prediction was silly, but at least it was a real explanation for you voting Trump 2016.

But if you think that “Democratic leadership fully abandoned its principles” you are fully nuts. You lost touch with the GOP reality, Signym:

Hey SECOND, I know all about the GOP, and it's various conflicting wings ... the social conservatives/ religious right; the libertarian/ Tea Party faction; the big money/ globalist wing; the neocon/ Armageddonist group; and the white supremacist flavors.

Trump isn't fully a Republican, because he was willing to speak against the powerful wing of the GOP, which is the neocon/ globalist faction.

But the DEMOCRATS have ALSO fallen in with the globalists/ interventionists/ neocons/ big money group ... show me how they haven't, I'll bet you can't ... and as such did not offer a real choice for the biggest problems that we face.

I could not have stood one more year of "more of the same or worse" under Hillary. She offered increasing wealth inequity, more "free trade" agreements, fewer jobs, stricter copyright/ patent enforcement, more GMOs, higher pharma prices, more illegal aliens, more war ... what was the upside there? Transgender bathrooms?

Yah, I know- doing something about the big problems might cramp your lifestyle.



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Monday, July 17, 2017 2:25 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Imagine that! We are now getting unbiased "news items" from Sputnik and Info Wars.....Fucking Info Wars - the epitome of FAKE News. Just think folks, we can now expect little green men from Mars to land in the National Park in Washington.

By the way, I once thought that what you meant by Deep State, was the football team
playing in the Delaware Water Gap.

Rah, rah, rah! Sisk BOOM Bah! Deep State, Deep State, Woo!


SGG

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If the MSM had actually gotten to a pale representation of the facts through some internal process, you might have a point. But this "news item", like so many others in CNN, WaPo, and NYT, was an unverified leak from yet another anonymous source, which CNN happily published without (apparently) even the simplest of verifications.

A process, I might add, that you support through your uncritical swill-swallowing, echoing, and your constant attacks on alternate sources and alternate PsOV.

BTW- Sputnik News and InfoWars - both of which you have constantly impugned as "biased" - were the ones who brought this inaccuracy to light. So suck it, you stupid deep-state trolls. CNN just got its ass handed to it; this isn't a "victory" for the MSM no matter how you try to spin it.

As an aside: The "journalism" behind the original story was so gorram shoddy that it probably put CNN at risk of a major libel suit, or worse. This the only time I've even seen such a thorough climb-down by a major "news" organization. Usually, the journalist resigns but the editor just blithely sails on. The subject of the libelous reporting - Scaramucci- can afford to be forgiving; after all, just look at CNN whittling all over itself trying to get out of trouble.



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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one



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Monday, July 17, 2017 7:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Hey, Signym, I call bullshit on your explanation of your vote for Trump. You and 1kiki said that Hillary would cause WWIII with Russia. I think your prediction was silly, but at least it was a real explanation for you voting Trump 2016.

But if you think that “Democratic leadership fully abandoned its principles” you are fully nuts. You lost touch with the GOP reality, Signym:

Hey SECOND, I know all about the GOP, and it's various conflicting wings ... the social conservatives/ religious right; the libertarian/ Tea Party faction; the big money/ globalist wing; the neocon/ Armageddonist group; and the white supremacist flavors.

Trump isn't fully a Republican, because he was willing to speak against the powerful wing of the GOP, which is the neocon/ globalist faction.

But the DEMOCRATS have ALSO fallen in with the globalists/ interventionists/ neocons/ big money group ... show me how they haven't, I'll bet you can't ... and as such did not offer a real choice for the biggest problems that we face.

I could not have stood one more year of "more of the same or worse" under Hillary. She offered increasing wealth inequity, more "free trade" agreements, fewer jobs, stricter copyright/ patent enforcement, more GMOs, higher pharma prices, more illegal aliens, more war ... what was the upside there? Transgender bathrooms?

Yah, I know- doing something about the big problems might cramp your lifestyle.

Signym, once again I realize you are impractical (I was going to write "insane" but that is inflammatory rhetoric). You actually believed Trump wasn't as Republican as any of the other candidates! There was plenty of proven incidences to demonstrate he is a world-class conman. I think if you objectively look at his first 6 months governing, he disproved your belief in him as different from other Republicans. Or simply look at Trump as cheerleader for the Senate's version of Trumpcare.

The Democratic party is NOT as bad as the GOP. The different parts of the Democratic party range from good to bad. Republicans range from bad to evil in my opinion.

Since the Constitution unintentionally makes impossible a three or four party system sharing control of the Federal government, your only real choice is D or R when you vote for Congress or President. You can't get to President Jill Stein of the Green Party. The Constitution makes that outlandish. Don't tell that to Ralph Nader or Noam Chomsky because they still hope for an alternative and they will talk your ears off explaining that it is possible if only the "people" realize they have the power to change the world. The "people" didn't write the first Constitution that got us into this mess and they won't be writing the next constitution fixing the disastrous flaws, either.

And your predictions (not made today, but made several times in the past) that Hillary would start WWIII are unbelievable.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 17, 2017 10:01 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The Democratic party is NOT as bad as the GOP. The different parts of the Democratic party range from good to bad. Republicans range from bad to evil in my opinion.

Since the Constitution unintentionally makes impossible a three or four party system sharing control of the Federal government, your only real choice is D or R when you vote for Congress or President. You can't get to President Jill Stein of the Green Party. The Constitution makes that outlandish. Don't tell that to Ralph Nader or Noam Chomsky because they still hope for an alternative and they will talk your ears off explaining that it is possible if only the "people" realize they have the power to change the world. The "people" didn't write the first Constitution that got us into this mess and they won't be writing the next constitution fixing the disastrous flaws, either.

And your predictions (not made today, but made several times in the past) that Hillary would start WWIII are unbelievable.




Yes, yes, and very yes.

"The people" will not do anything of much substance - most of them couldn't even be bothered to vote in one of the most important, radical elections of their time. Can't count on the people.

Siggy and Kiggy don't really believe Hillary was going to start WWIII. That's a convenient lie. There might be a slim chance that they believed had she won, Putin would have started WWIII. Otherwise, it's just another weak bogey man to cover their support for Trump.

Siggy believes Trump was the worst choice for the US and the best choice for Russia. That he will do serious damage to the US - payback or something.

Hey! Croiky! That means she got one right!

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Monday, July 17, 2017 12:42 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The Democratic party is NOT as bad as the GOP. The different parts of the Democratic party range from good to bad. Republicans range from bad to evil in my opinion.

Since the Constitution unintentionally makes impossible a three or four party system sharing control of the Federal government, your only real choice is D or R when you vote for Congress or President. You can't get to President Jill Stein of the Green Party. The Constitution makes that outlandish. Don't tell that to Ralph Nader or Noam Chomsky because they still hope for an alternative and they will talk your ears off explaining that it is possible if only the "people" realize they have the power to change the world. The "people" didn't write the first Constitution that got us into this mess and they won't be writing the next constitution fixing the disastrous flaws, either.

And your predictions (not made today, but made several times in the past) that Hillary would start WWIII are unbelievable.




Yes, yes, and very yes.

"The people" will not do anything of much substance - most of them couldn't even be bothered to vote in one of the most important, radical elections of their time. Can't count on the people.

Siggy and Kiggy don't really believe Hillary was going to start WWIII. That's a convenient lie. There might be a slim chance that they believed had she won, Putin would have started WWIII. Otherwise, it's just another weak bogey man to cover their support for Trump.

Siggy believes Trump was the worst choice for the US and the best choice for Russia. That he will do serious damage to the US - payback or something.

Hey! Croiky! That means she got one right!

You didn't say anything about my comment: "The people didn't write the first Constitution that got us into this mess and they won't be writing the next constitution fixing the disastrous flaws, either." When the Constitution was written, nobody had ever before gotten only a 48% minority of the vote in a state, yet received 100% of the electoral college votes from the state. There was talk about fixing that flaw in the Constitution, but it never got beyond talk in 200 years.

When the Constitution was written, no political party had ever before gerrymandered the Congressional districts in a way that receiving only 55% of the total vote gave the gerrymandering party 100% of the representatives to Congress. That's another tiny flaw in the Constitution that is very fixable.

The Fourteenth Amendment gave citizenship to slaves, but it was written so stupidly that it did many other things badly. It has never been fixed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_State
s_Constitution


The USA is in trouble now because of flaws in the Constitution that never get fixed, maybe because most people, including Congress, don't understand it and can't imagine what to do about it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 31, 2017 4:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

WSJ Asks "Who Paid For The 'Trump Dossier'?"

It has been 10 days since Democrats received the glorious news that Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley would require Donald Trump Jr. and Paul Manafort to explain their meeting with Russian operators at Trump Tower last year. The left was salivating at the prospect of watching two Trump insiders being grilled about Russian “collusion” under the klieg lights.

Yet Democrats now have meekly and noiselessly retreated, agreeing to let both men speak to the committee in private. Why would they so suddenly be willing to let go of this moment of political opportunity?

Fusion GPS.

The article goes on to "connect the dots" between Fusion and Democrats for the "dossier" creation. MORE AT http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-30/wsj-asks-who-paid-trump-dossi
er


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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Monday, July 31, 2017 4:37 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


FROM THE WASHINGTON POST

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The quest to prove collusion is crumbling

While everyone is fixated on President Trump’s unbecoming and inexplicable assault on Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the media has been trying to sneak away from the “Russian collusion” story. That’s right. For all the breathless hype, the on-air furrowed brows and the not-so-veiled hopes that this could be Watergate, Jared Kushner’s statement and testimony before Congress have made Democrats and many in the media come to the realization that the collusion they were counting on just isn’t there.

As the date of the Kushner testimony approached, the media thought it was going to advance and refresh the story. But Kushner’s clear, precise and convincing account of what really occurred during the campaign and after the election has left many of President Trump’s loudest enemies trying to quietly back out of the room unnoticed.

Cable news airtime and in-print word count dedicated to the nonexistent collusion story appear to be dwindling. ... it hasn’t taken long for news producers and editors to realize that the story is fading.

At last, the story that never was is not happening.

... Democrats and their allies in the media have exhausted themselves building a scandalous narrative surrounding the Russian lawyer meeting, but according to Kushner, the meeting was so useless that he “actually emailed an assistant from the meeting after [he] had been there for ten or so minutes and wrote ‘Can u pls call me on my cell? Need excuse to get out of meeting.”’ Maybe the collusion didn’t take very long, or maybe he realized what the lawyer had to say was a useless farce and he wanted to get on with his day.

Much to the dismay of Trump’s haters, Kushner’s account of events even further proves just how far the media has stretched the collusion story. When the campaign received an official note of congratulations from Russian President Vladimir Putin the day after the election, Kushner had to send Dimitri Simes of the Center for the National Interest an email asking for the name of the Russian ambassador so that he could reach out and confirm the message’s authenticity.

... Sure, there are others still in the crosshairs of the collusion-hunters, but Kushner has been the biggest target if for no other reason than he is the only one serving in the White House. Paul Manafort is a private citizen, and he departed the campaign before the general election campaign really started. Donald Trump Jr. is implicated only in the one ill-advised and now-shown-to-be-pointless encounter with a few gadflies. The media can knock itself out trying to find some left-behind paperwork or some other scrap to hang onto, but the dead end is in sight.

The quest for collusion is crumbling.

With the Democrats and their allies in the media beginning to walk away from the collusion story, the single biggest thing keeping this story alive is the president’s obsession with it. No doubt the issue will continue to be irresistible to some of Trump’s haters. Some will never believe the truth, no matter what else is revealed. But if Democrats and the president’s worst enemies can begin to silently acknowledge the obvious and move on, perhaps Trump can, too. Maybe now he will see the futility of continuing to whine, tweet, moan and seethe about the whole non-affair. Maybe the president will now see that he should leave Sessions alone so that he can get on with his work. Maybe he will let special counsel Robert S. Mueller III quietly do his job and the whole “Russian collusion” affair won’t even be a footnote in the retelling of the story of the Trump campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/07/27/the-q
uest-to-prove-collusion-is-crumbling/?utm_term=.ab223a777d48


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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Monday, July 31, 2017 10:32 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I think a few things are happening:

"Mooch the Terrible" has stemmed the flow of leaks/ lies. He fired somebody and put his head on a pike at the city gates as a warning to others. In addition, Priebus resigned under pressure - that may as well be another head on a pike at the city gates. Once the constant media-directed staffer speculation died, there were no more rumors to fill the media with breathless hyperventilation about "Russia!". And once the media hyperventilation quieted a little, the warmongering progressives lost focus on what they were supposed to be afraid of.

In addition, no further political movement was being gained by flogging this story. Congressional GOP was not about to impeach Trump - they have their own failure to account for with the healthcare bill. And the "Russia!" story WAS getting a little old.

And finally, I think that there might be some "opposition research" in the background ... such as about the Awan brothers .... which has made certain butts pucker.

Hillary, Debbie, and the DNC have a lot to answer for. A REAL investigation into what Hillary was doing with the Foundation and with her private server, and what Debbie was doing with the DNC, would probably uncover some serious criminal activity. You all really should look into the Awan story; the way Debbie was protecting this guy was ... unusual, to say the least. And the Awan brothers had so much criminal activity in their background, there's no way they should EVER have had access to the Foreign Affairs Committee members' data. This is way more than just "bank fraud".

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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Monday, July 31, 2017 10:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
FROM THE WASHINGTON POST

With the Democrats and their allies in the media beginning to walk away from the collusion story, the single biggest thing keeping this story alive is the president’s obsession with it. No doubt the issue will continue to be irresistible to some of Trump’s haters. Some will never believe the truth, no matter what else is revealed. But if Democrats and the president’s worst enemies can begin to silently acknowledge the obvious and move on, perhaps Trump can, too. Maybe now he will see the futility of continuing to whine, tweet, moan and seethe about the whole non-affair. Maybe the president will now see that he should leave Sessions alone so that he can get on with his work. Maybe he will let special counsel Robert S. Mueller III quietly do his job and the whole “Russian collusion” affair won’t even be a footnote in the retelling of the story of the Trump campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/07/27/the-q
uest-to-prove-collusion-is-crumbling/?utm_term=.ab223a777d48



I love that last paragraph. The WaPo just can't help itself, can it?

One side of their mouth basically saying that they have been involved in 7 months of "reporting" a bullshit narrative, and then the other side of their mouth wrapping it up by saying that "maybe now he can stop being a big orange baby".

lol

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Monday, July 31, 2017 1:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I've seen a decrease in the anti-Trump/ 'collusion' rhetoric. That may or may not be due to counter-intelligence. But that's a stupid political game. If the Awan brothers were blackmailing politicians as suspected, they should be investigated, prosecuted, tried, and - if guilty - made to serve the maximum sentence. There should be no quid pro quo between the Trump administration and lawbreakers - my silence over your lawbreaking for your cease-fire on 'collusion'.

OTOH I'm seeing a sharp spike in anti-Russia articles over the last few weeks, especially regarding Ukraine, the Baltics, Georgia, Eastern Europe in general, and NATO. We're being groomed into another incestuous torrid affair.




Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Monday, July 31, 2017 2:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61682&mid=1
035311#1035311
People can be driven to war, it is true. A relentless media campaign can cause the heartland to become so fearful or liberals to become so outraged that they will take to the streets to demand blood. And despite the fact that you ... the supposed intelligent liberal elite... have seen this over and over again, you keep falling for the same bullshit again and again.

The sad thing is, the moment the media stops hyping the 'collusion' frenzy, it'll disappear from the collective American mind, and be as if it never existed at all. All that anger and hate will quickly evaporate.

And how can people learn when the past of a mere few weeks ago can be erased so completely?

And, without reference to how this cycle has happened over, and over, and over, and over, people will be driven to the next focus de jour.





Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Monday, July 31, 2017 2:31 PM

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... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
FROM THE WASHINGTON POST

With the Democrats and their allies in the media beginning to walk away from the collusion story, the single biggest thing keeping this story alive is the president’s obsession with it. No doubt the issue will continue to be irresistible to some of Trump’s haters. Some will never believe the truth, no matter what else is revealed. But if Democrats and the president’s worst enemies can begin to silently acknowledge the obvious and move on, perhaps Trump can, too. Maybe now he will see the futility of continuing to whine, tweet, moan and seethe about the whole non-affair. Maybe the president will now see that he should leave Sessions alone so that he can get on with his work. Maybe he will let special counsel Robert S. Mueller III quietly do his job and the whole “Russian collusion” affair won’t even be a footnote in the retelling of the story of the Trump campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/07/27/the-q
uest-to-prove-collusion-is-crumbling/?utm_term=.ab223a777d48



I love that last paragraph. The WaPo just can't help itself, can it?

One side of their mouth basically saying that they have been involved in 7 months of "reporting" a bullshit narrative, and then the other side of their mouth wrapping it up by saying that "maybe now he can stop being a big orange baby".

lol



That wasn't written by The WaPo. It was written by a big DC lobbyist, Ed Rogers. Rogers will take anyone's money.

http://bgrdc.com

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/nation/2015/08/17/BGR-Group-morphed-i
nto-GOP-force-with-bridge-to-Democrats/stories/201508170009


"The day after this month’s Republican presidential debate, a top lobbyist opined in The Washington Post that Donald Trump was “wearing thin” and “a blackmailer” who is “all about himself.”

That lobbyist, Ed Rogers, and his colleagues have reason to hope that’s true. Their firm, BGR Group, has ties to current or former Republican governors who make up eight of the other 16 candidates. Traditionally a GOP firm, BGR even has built a bridge to Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton."

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Monday, July 31, 2017 2:39 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by G:

That wasn't written by The WaPo. It was written by a big DC lobbyist, Ed Rogers. Rogers will take anyone's money.



If it's printed in the WaPo, the WaPo wrote it. It doesn't matter where it originated if they print it in full.

Of course, I can't verify this because I can't see the link without giving my money to WaPo which would never happen as long as I live.

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Monday, July 31, 2017 2:41 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
The sad thing is, the moment the media stops hyping the 'collusion' frenzy, it'll disappear from the collective American mind, and be as if it never existed at all. All that anger and hate will quickly evaporate.

And how can people learn when the past of a mere few weeks ago can be erased so completely?

And, without reference to how this cycle has happened over, and over, and over, and over, people will be driven to the next focus de jour.



They can't learn, and they won't learn.

This isn't some new phenomenon. Orwell wrote extensively about it in the 40's and 50's and I assume it wasn't exactly a new thing back then either.

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Monday, July 31, 2017 2:54 PM

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Monday, July 31, 2017 3:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

And how can people learn when the past of a mere few weeks ago can be erased so completely?



They can't learn, and they won't learn.

This isn't some new phenomenon. Orwell wrote extensively about it in the 40's and 50's and I assume it wasn't exactly a new thing back then either.


People in general are much smarter than the media believes they are. The blatantly biased media has rendered itself an irrelevant laughing-stock.

They sat there on election night humiliated, stunned, and depressed. They still haven't learned a gorram thing from that titanic ass-whooping they got.

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Monday, July 31, 2017 3:36 PM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

If it's printed in the WaPo, the WaPo wrote it.



Huh? It was written by Ed Rogers:

Ed Rogers is a contributor to the PostPartisan blog, a political consultant and a veteran of the Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush White Houses and several national campaigns. He is the chairman of the lobbying and communications firm BGR Group, which he founded with former Mississippi governor Haley Barbour in 1991. Follow @EdRogersDC

How does the WaPo write something?

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Monday, July 31, 2017 3:39 PM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Anthony Scaramucci out as White House communications director

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/anthony-scaramucci-white-house-communic
ations-director/story?id=48952277





Whoa! Kelly wanted him gone it looks like. Kelly for president. He starts training Trump this week.

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Monday, July 31, 2017 4:06 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

If it's printed in the WaPo, the WaPo wrote it.



Quote:

Originally posted by G:

How does the WaPo write something?



I don't know. You were the one who said they didn't write something here:

Quote:

Originally posted by G:

That wasn't written by The WaPo. It was written by a big DC lobbyist, Ed Rogers. Rogers will take anyone's money.



One would assume that if something didn't write it, then the opposite could also be true.

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Tuesday, August 1, 2017 9:01 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

If it's printed in the WaPo, the WaPo wrote it.



Quote:

Originally posted by G:

How does the WaPo write something?



I don't know. You were the one who said they didn't write something here:

Quote:

Originally posted by G:

That wasn't written by The WaPo. It was written by a big DC lobbyist, Ed Rogers. Rogers will take anyone's money.



One would assume that if something didn't write it, then the opposite could also be true.



You're so clever you've confused yourself.

You said the Wapo wrote it, suggesting a paper - a non-person - could write something, because it's easier for you to think in small boxes I suspect or you just don't give a sh*t. I said, no, a lobbyist - who is motivated by money and strong gop ties - wrote it and supplied links to back that up. And then you shorted out.

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Tuesday, August 1, 2017 3:20 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

If it's printed in the WaPo, the WaPo wrote it.



Quote:

Originally posted by G:

How does the WaPo write something?



I don't know. You were the one who said they didn't write something here:

Quote:

Originally posted by G:

That wasn't written by The WaPo. It was written by a big DC lobbyist, Ed Rogers. Rogers will take anyone's money.



One would assume that if something didn't write it, then the opposite could also be true.



You're so clever you've confused yourself.

You said the Wapo wrote it, suggesting a paper - a non-person - could write something, because it's easier for you to think in small boxes I suspect or you just don't give a sh*t. I said, no, a lobbyist - who is motivated by money and strong gop ties - wrote it and supplied links to back that up. And then you shorted out.

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You said it wasn't fucking written by the WaPo first.

Read it again.

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Tuesday, August 1, 2017 6:55 PM

THGRRI


Behind Fox News' Baseless Seth Rich Story: The Untold Tale

The Fox News Channel and a wealthy supporter of President Trump worked in concert under the watchful eye of the White House to concoct a story about the death of a young Democratic National Committee aide, according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday.

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/01/540783715/lawsuit-alleges-fox-news-and-t
rump-supporter-created-fake-news-story







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Wednesday, August 2, 2017 3:54 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.





Quote:

About the kid, I’ll tell you what I know. What I know comes off an FBI report. Don’t ask me how. You can figure it out, I’ve been around a long time. The kid, just, I don’t think he was murdered, I, I don’t think he was murdered because of what he knew. The kids a nice boy, 27, he was not IT expert, but he learned stuff. He was a data programmer, but he learned stuff. And so he’s living on one street, someone, in my eyes,- he’s living in a ruff neighborhood and in the exact where he’d been living, as I’m sure you know, there have been about 8 or 9 or 10 violent, uh not robberies, most of them with somebody brandishing a gun and it’s the kids hands, I’m telling you look, I’m sure you know what, his hands are marked up, the cops concluded he fought off the people, tried to run they shot him twice in the back with a 22 small caliper. And then, they, the kids that did it ran, they got scared, they didn’t take his wallet. ...

Ok. So what the cops do is this: And this is where nobody knows, what I’m telling you, and maybe you know something about it. When you have a death like that DC cops, if you’re dead, you don’t just generally go yep I know (unintelligible) you have to get in to the kids apartment and see what you can find. If he’s dead you don’t need a warrant but most cops get a warrant because they don’t know if they’ve guys has, has a, a roommate. You need a warrant. So they get a warrant. I’m just telling you, there is such a thing. They go in the house and they can’t do much with this computer. It’s (unintelligible) the cops don’t know much about it. So the DC cops they have a cyber unit in DC and they’re more sophisticated. They come and look at it. The idea is maybe he’s a series of exchanges with somebody who says I’m going to kill you motherfucker over a girl or… and they can’t get in. The cyber guys do a little better but they can’t make sense of it so they call the, they call the FBI cyber unit, the DC unit.

The Washington field office is a hot shit unit. The guy running the Washington field office he’s like, he’s like, you know, he’s like a three star at an army base he’s already looking for four, you know what I mean? He’s gonna go in a top job. There’s a cyber unit there that’s excellent, given. What you get in a warrant is, the public information you get in a warrant doesn’t include, uh, it does not include the affidavit underlying what, why you are you going in, what the reasons are that.. That’s almost never available, um, I, I can tell you that the existence of a warrant is a public document 99% of the time. So, um, on the same warrant, they call in the feds. The feds get through, and this is what they find. This is according to the FBI report. What they find is he makes cont- first of all this is what you have to know, you have to know some basic facts, one of the basic factors, in that there’s no DNC or Podesta emails that exist beyond May 22nd. May 21st, May 22nd is the last email from either one of those groups. And so what the reports says is that sometime in late spring, we’re talking June you know summers in June 21st, late spring would be after, I presume, I don’t know, I’d just say late spring, early summer and he makes contact with Wikileaks. That’s in his computer and he makes contact.

Now, I have to be careful because I, I’ve know, I, met Julian 10 or 12 years (ago?) I stay the fuck away from people like that, you know. He’s invited me, and when I’m in London I always get a message “Come see me at the Ecuadorian” but I say fuck no I’m not going there I’ve got enough trouble without getting photographed. And he’s under total surveillance by everybody but anyways. So, they found what he’d done. He had submitted a series of documents, of emails. Some juicy emails from the DNC, and you know, by the way all this shit about the DNC, um, you know, whether it was hacked or wasn’t hacked, whatever happened, the democrats themselves wrote this shit, you know what I mean? All I know is that he (Seth) offered a sample, an extensive sample, you know I’m sure dozens of email and said “I want money”. Then later Wikileaks did get the password, he had a Dropbox, a protected Dropbox, which isn’t hard to do, I mean you don’t have to be a wizard IT, you know, he was certainly not a dumb kid. They got access to the Dropbox. He also, and this is also in the FBI report, he also let people know, with whom he was dealing, and I don’t know how he dealt, I’ll tell you about Wikileaks in a second. I don’t know how he dealt with the Wikileaks and the mechanism but he also, the word was passed according to the NSA report, “I’ve also shared this box with a couple of friends so if anything happens to me it’s not going to solve your problem”. Ok. I don’t know what that means.

I don’t know whether you- Anyways, Wikileaks got access, and before he was killed- I can tell you right now Brennan is an asshole. Uh, I’ve known all these people for years. Clapper is sort of a better guy but not rocket scientist, the NSA guy’s a fucking moron, and they don’t- you know the trouble with all of those guys is that the only way they’re going to make it to a board or two and get hired by (?) and get some fat cat contracts is if Hillary stayed in. With Trump they’re gone, they’re done, they’re going to live on their pension, they’re not going to make it. And I gotta tell you guys, they don’t want to live on their pension, they want to be on boards.

I have somebody on the inside, you know I’ve been around a long time, and I write a lot of stuff. I have somebody on the inside who will go and read a file for me. This person is unbelievably accurate and careful, he’s a very high-level guy and he’ll do a favor. You’re just going to have to trust me. I have what they call in my business a long-form journalism, I have a narrative of how that whole fucking thing began, it’s a Brennan operation, it was an American disinformation and fucking the fucking President, at one point when they, they even started telling the press, they were back briefing the press, the head of the NSA was going and telling the press, fucking cock-sucker Rogers, was telling the press that we even know who in the GRU, the Russian Military Intelligence Service, who leaked it.

I mean all bullshit.

They were telling the studp- I worked at the New York Times for fucking years, and the trouble with the fucking New York Times is they have smart guys, but they’re totally beholden on sources. If the president or the head of the (???) to actually believe it. I was actually hired at the time to write, to go after the war in Vietnam War in 72 because they were just locked in. So that’s what the Times did. These guys run the fucking Times, and Trump’s not wrong. But I mean I wish he would calm down and had a better a better press secretary, I mean you don’t have to be so. Trump’s not wrong to think they all fucking lie about him.



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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Saturday, August 5, 2017 9:58 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


It's nice to hear it out loud.




Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.

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Tuesday, October 10, 2017 1:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And yet another hidden-camera expose of the tremendous bias of the "free (corporate) press" against Trump:

Quote:

O'Keefe Strikes Again, Catches NYT Editors On Hidden Camera: "Targeting Trump's Buinesses, His Dumb F**k Of A Son"

In the latest of a series of undercover operations targeting mainstream media bias, James O'Keefe has just dropped a new undercover video which takes direct aim at the New York Times' Audience Strategy Editor, Nick Dudich, who admits repeatedly to promoting content that intentionally seeks to, among other things, damage President Trump's businesses as a means towards forcing his resignation.

Here is a brief intro from Project Veritas:

While talking about being objective at the Times, Dudich replies candidly, "No I'm not, that's why I'm here."

Dudich considers himself an important player at the New York Times, telling the Project Veritas Journalist "my voice is on... my imprint is on every video we do."

Dudich goes on to explain what he might do to target President Trump:

"I'd target his businesses, his dumb fuck of a son, Donald Jr., and Eric...

Target that. Get people to boycott going to his hotels. Boycott... So a lot of the Trump brands, if you can ruin the Trump brand and you put pressure on his business and you start investigating his business and you start shutting it down, or they're hacking or other things. He cares about his business more than he cares about being President. He would resign. Or he'd lash out and do something incredibly illegal, which he would have to."

When the undercover journalist asks Dudich if he could make sure that the anti-Trump stories make it to the front, he replied, "Oh, we always do."


Is @nicholasdudich an isolated incident, or does the #NYTimes employ a culture of bias, in direct conflict with their ethical handbook? pic.twitter.com/oxAenS7aob — Project Veritas (@Project_Veritas) October 10, 2017

To our complete 'shock', O'Keefe also learned the Dudich worked for Hillary's 2016 presidential campaign and Obama's campaign in both 2008 and 2012...

In 2016, he was recruited to work for the Clinton campaign:

"So I have that background, so when Clinton in 2016... they needed a volunteer strategist to do video... well, they needed someone to help them do video, and how to make it heartfelt, for Clinton."

He even had to quit his job in journalism in order to work for the Clinton campaign: "I had to leave my job at Fusion ABC to then take a job at Upworthy where I wasn't deemed a journalist anymore to be able to work for the Clinton campaign."

Dudich explains how his activism motivated him to re-engage in the news business: "Like, after the Clinton campaign, I'm like, no I need to get back into news and keep doing shit because, like, this isn't going to change."


Exactly what kind of people does @nytimes allow to be a video gatekeeper?#AmericanPravda #NYTimes #NYT pic.twitter.com/6uGVsRFpc7 — James O'Keefe (@JamesOKeefeIII) October 10, 2017

Bizarrely, Dudich also claims to have joined the Antifa movement as an undercover agent for the FBI...a request which he originally said came from his godfather, James Comey, even though he subsequently retracted that statement.

Nicholas Dudich also told the undercover journalist bizarre stories about his personal connection to the FBI and his previous excitement as part of Anti-Fa.

"Yeah, I used to be an Anti-Fa punk once upon a time." he told the undercover journalist. "So, I had fun. They'd start s**t, I'm like, I get to hit you. I'm so excited."

He also claims that James Comey, former Director of the FBI, asked him to join Anti-Fa: "I joined that stuff for them [the FBI]. I was an asset... So it was intelligence gathering, seeing if they were [sic], what their agenda was, whether they're a threat or not."

"How'd you meet Comey?" asked the Project Veritas journalist. "He's my godfather," Dudich explained. "My dad and mom knew him and his wife for a really long time."

"Well the Comey hearing, I should have recused myself, but I'm not ever telling anybody there [at the Times] that I have a tie with that or else I don't know if they can keep me on."


With that intro, here is the complete video:



Why do we feel like it's Dudich whose resignation is imminent as opposed to Trump's?



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-10/okeefe-takes-aim-nyt-records-
editor-admitting-targeting-trumps-buinesses-his-dumb-fk



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Wednesday, October 11, 2017 4:59 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

NYT Editor Brags About Colluding With YouTube To Push Political Agenda

... Project Veritas is back with part 2 of their New York Times series which features Dudich bragging about his extensive contacts at YouTube that allow him to, among other things, bypass search algos and get his content promoted to the front page and/or buried, depending upon his personal preferences.

"As an editor, I'm a gatekeeper so I can choose what goes out and what doesn't go out. And let's say we wrote something about Facebook negatively... We actually just did a video about Facebook negatively, and I chose to put it in a spot that I knew wouldn't do well."
"Let's say something ends up on the YouTube front page, New York Times freaks out about it, but they don't know it's just because my friends curate the front page. So, it's like, a little bit of mystery you need in any type of job to make it look like what you do is harder than what it is."


#NYTimes video gatekeeper Nick Dudich says @YouTube friend curates trends for him…doesn't tell @nytimes to make his job "look harder." pic.twitter.com/kgezbQqxFo — Project Veritas (@Project_Veritas) October 11, 2017

Meanwhile, Earnest Pettie, the Brand and Diversity Curation Lead at YouTube - and Dudich's friend and former coworker at Fusion ABC - was also caught on video describing how he buries videos posted by "Alex Jones" while promoting videos from "legitimate news organizations," a designation which he is seemingly allowed to make autonomously.

"There are things that exist in the product that, like, are definitely optimized for news."

"Now, like last night if you searched for Hugh Hefner, there's the search results but then there's also... A carousel comes up with a page that's just news videos.

"There's this need, people are searching for a topic that is, that our systems know is a 'newsy' topic, so let's give them videos that we know to be newsy because we know we have these news partnerships."

"Realistically, that's what the... that's what the news carousel kind of does. So like, it's above the search results so, at the very least, we can say this shelf of videos from news partners is legitimate news because we know that these are legitimate news organizations. And if at that point, somebody decides they're going to scroll past that and go find Alex Jones, well, they were looking for him to begin with anyway."



An employee of @YouTube–which claims "for creators, by creators"–suppresses content to place "legitimate news" up top. Why do they decide? pic.twitter.com/uzYP7zHkSe — James O'Keefe (@JamesOKeefeIII) October 11, 2017

Of course, in Congress' endless effort to track down the couple hundred thousand dollars that 'Russian-linked' accounts 'may' have spent on Facebook and Twitter ads during the 2016 campaign, why do we suspect they will continue to ignore our own domestic news organzations' relentless attempt to push their own biased, liberal political agendas onto the American public rather than just reporting the news?

With that intro, here is NYT Part II in its entirety:




http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-11/okeefe-drops-part-2-nyt-edito
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