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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:40 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Too bad Trump doesn't Declassify the documents. He said he wanted to, but since Democraps are keen to keep hidden the evidence of so many of their crimes, they convinced him not to. So far.



"The Democrats convinced him not to"... hmmm... really? Trump listening to any Democrats? Does that make sense to even you?

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Sunday, January 6, 2019 4:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

But the first Monday of the year is coming up. Hopefully Trolls hold their breath until then.

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Sunday, January 6, 2019 5:20 PM

REAVERFAN


Tons of evidence. More every day. 36 indictments. 192 criminal charges.

It's just getting started. But, I understand that as a Russian troll, you're paid to say stupid shit regularly.

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Sunday, January 6, 2019 8:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Tons of evidence. More every day. 36 indictments. 192 criminal charges.



Not a single one on Trump so far.

Once again, it sounds to me like the swamp is being drained.


Trump spent his entire life until 2015 as a Democrat.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 7, 2019 6:53 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted:
Tons of evidence. More every day. 36 indictments. 192 criminal charges.


Not a single one on Trump so far.

Once again, it sounds to me like the swamp is being drained.


Trump spent his entire life until 2015 as a Democrat.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Lifelong Democrats turning on Lifelong Democrats, lynching Lifelong Democrats.
And this affects me how?
Why is it so hard for me to care?
Seems an effective way to Drain the Swamp, but not very efficient - costing way too much.


Still No Evidence.

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Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

Can we get Trolls to hold their breath until Monday?

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Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Seems an effective way to Drain the Swamp, but not very efficient - costing way too much.



Since when has our government ever done anything efficiently and on a reasonable budget?



Flush em all out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:36 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

But the first Monday of the year is coming up. Hopefully Trolls hold their breath until then.

You're a troll, and we all know it.

His campaign manager and lawyer both pleaded guilty. Given Trump's constant micromanagement, there's no way he didn't know, and the evidence that he did is there.

Your boss's other employee is going down.

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Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:47 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

But the first Monday of the year is coming up. Hopefully Trolls hold their breath until then.

You're a troll, and we all know it.

His campaign manager and lawyer both pleaded guilty. Given Trump's constant micromanagement, there's no way he didn't know, and the evidence that he did is there.

Your boss's other employee is going down.



Well said...

T



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Thursday, January 10, 2019 11:51 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"there's no way he didn't know, and the evidence that he did is there"

link?

wait ... what WAS I thinking?

that's too much like looking for facts




tic tac

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Friday, January 11, 2019 8:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"there's no way he didn't know, and the evidence that he did is there"

link?

wait ... what WAS I thinking?

that's too much like looking for facts




tic tac


Merely for having sat calmly through George H.W. Bush’s funeral on Wednesday, Donald Trump was hailed by some as having turned a more presidential page. Alas, it was another Groundhog Day in a loop of Trumpian false dawns. Since then, Mr Trump announced the exit of his chief of staff, John Kelly, appointed Heather Nauert, a former Fox News talking head, to be the next UN ambassador, named a new attorney-general, William Barr, and was effectively labelled a criminal by his own Department of Justice. For good measure, he also called Rex Tillerson, his former secretary of state, “dumb as a rock” and “lazy as hell”.

Mr Trump is battening down the hatches for the second half of his presidential term. It promises to be much stormier than the first. Robert Mueller, the special counsel, is methodically lining up his targets for what increasingly looks like a recommended indictment of Mr Trump for more than one federal crime. On Friday, “individual #1”, as Mr Trump is called in the filings, was implicated in a federal crime in the sentencing reports for Michael Cohen, his estranged personal lawyer, and Paul Manafort, his former campaign chairman.

The filings were heavily redacted. But even from what was visible, they establish connections between the Russian government and people around Mr Trump from as early as November 2015 — eight months before he took the Republican nomination. The chess grandmaster, Garry Kasparov, once said that Mr Trump “had more Russia connections than Aeroflot”. Mr Mueller has by no means finished mapping them out.

More at www.ft.com/content/f7b66c02-fb34-11e8-aebf-99e208d3e521

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 11, 2019 8:56 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Mr Trump is battening down the hatches for the second half of his presidential term. It promises to be much stormier than the first. Robert Mueller, the special counsel, is methodically lining up his targets for what increasingly looks like a recommended indictment of Mr Trump for more than one federal crime. On Friday, “individual #1”, as Mr Trump is called in the filings, was implicated in a federal crime in the sentencing reports for Michael Cohen, his estranged personal lawyer, and Paul Manafort, his former campaign chairman.



I'm not familiar with the confirmation process or time line for a new AG, Barr, but once confirmed (is there any doubt?) then he shuts Mueller down and we're back to el Duce. I'm not feeling very shiny on any of this.

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Friday, January 11, 2019 9:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I'm not familiar with the confirmation process or time line for a new AG, Barr, but once confirmed (is there any doubt?) then he shuts Mueller down and we're back to el Duce. I'm not feeling very shiny on any of this.

I'm fairly sure that Trump won't destroy America, but he could do the USA a great service by destroying the Republican Party. The longer Trump hangs in there as an incompetent President, maybe even treasonous like Nixon or a tax-cheating criminal like Nixon's V.P. Spiro Agnew, the more likely the GOP will split into third parties that can't get elected, taking all those Trump loyalists down with the party.

Agnew's crookedness was hushed up and Nixon's treason stayed under-reported, but if Trump has done anything like those famous Republicans did, it will come out in public within the next few years, while Trump is still alive, when it can do the maximum harm to the GOP and all those Congressmen who protected Trump from getting the justice he deserved.

Did Nixon Commit Treason on Vietnam? Yes.
www.realclearhistory.com/2017/01/27/did_nixon_commit_treason_on_vietna
m_1374.html


When a Candidate Conspired With a Foreign Power to Win An Election.
It took decades to unravel Nixon’s sabotage of Vietnam peace talks. Now, the full story can be told.
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-con
spired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461

". . . the fact that it took nearly 50 years for Nixon’s secret to emerge also offers vital lessons for today. It shows how hard it is to find definitive proof of collaboration with a foreign power when officials are determined to hide the truth."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 11, 2019 2:13 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I'm fairly sure that Trump won't destroy America, but he could do the USA a great service by destroying the Republican Party. The longer Trump hangs in there as an incompetent President, maybe even treasonous like Nixon or a tax-cheating criminal like Nixon's V.P. Spiro Agnew, the more likely the GOP will split into third parties that can't get elected, taking all those Trump loyalists down with the party.



That's like one of those computer games where you get to make choices along the way and the outcome/plot trail depends on the combination of all of the many choices you make. So... in that vein... that's just one of the possibilities. The other ones include Trump gets a WIN. Like a Dem Cave and a Wall. And that emboldens a-holes like McConnell & Co. And they get a new AG and Rosenstein, one of the last the Guardians, is axed and the darkness descends for 100 years.

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Friday, January 11, 2019 2:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I'm fairly sure that Trump won't destroy America, but he could do the USA a great service by destroying the Republican Party. The longer Trump hangs in there as an incompetent President, maybe even treasonous like Nixon or a tax-cheating criminal like Nixon's V.P. Spiro Agnew, the more likely the GOP will split into third parties that can't get elected, taking all those Trump loyalists down with the party.



That's like one of those computer games where you get to make choices along the way and the outcome/plot trail depends on the combination of all of the many choices you make. So... in that vein... that's just one of the possibilities. The other ones include Trump gets a WIN. Like a Dem Cave and a Wall. And that emboldens a-holes like McConnell & Co. And they get a new AG and Rosenstein, one of the last the Guardians, is axed and the darkness descends for 100 years.

The Democrats in Congress can easily avoid that by remaining calm and not caving in to Trump's panicky demands. They can make that easier on themselves by encouraging the calmer ones among the GOP Congressmen to agree that the shutdown must end. With Trump being irrational about his Wall and a panoply of larger issues, he will eventually drive about one quarter of his own people in Congress to distraction, then a mild revolt.

Trump really doesn't have any strategy better than lie about everything. Most GOP Congressmen, even the ones that like him, have noticed that weakness in him. If he actually has committed a felon on the same order as his convicted personal attorney, Trump won't be able to lie his way into a second term, although he will try because that's the only trick he knows, that and shouting. Some of his people in Congress will realize he is a liability and politically incompetent and will stop slavishly following his whims if they don't want to end like him, out of office in 2020.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 2:34 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

Are Trolls waiting for another Monday? The 2nd of the year? Wish they would hold their breaths.

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 4:44 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I'm fairly sure that Trump won't destroy America, but he could do the USA a great service by destroying the Republican Party. The longer Trump hangs in there as an incompetent President, maybe even treasonous like Nixon or a tax-cheating criminal like Nixon's V.P. Spiro Agnew, the more likely the GOP will split into third parties that can't get elected, taking all those Trump loyalists down with the party.



That's like one of those computer games where you get to make choices along the way and the outcome/plot trail depends on the combination of all of the many choices you make. So... in that vein... that's just one of the possibilities. The other ones include Trump gets a WIN. Like a Dem Cave and a Wall. And that emboldens a-holes like McConnell & Co. And they get a new AG and Rosenstein, one of the last the Guardians, is axed and the darkness descends for 100 years.



Right now we're in the storm. When it's over America will bloom again. Our justice system will prevail.


T



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Sunday, January 13, 2019 4:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

Are Trolls waiting for another Monday? The 2nd of the year? Wish they would hold their breaths.

The Democrats are waiting for the next national election. With Trump being an incompetent chief executive and all GOP Congressmen defending that incompetence, the GOP will lose seats in Congress.

As an extra bonus, if Mueller uncovers a crime by Trump, whether it is tax evasion, or money laundering for the Russian mafia, or attempted shutdown of an FBI investigation (Nixon's downfall was the "smoking gun" tape) it will be even worse for the GOP during the 2020 election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_White_House_tapes#The_%22smoking_g
un%22_tape


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 6:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

Are Trolls waiting for another Monday? The 2nd of the year? Wish they would hold their breaths.



They're waiting for a Monday...

About 90 Mondays from now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 14, 2019 7:19 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Now that Democraps have taken over all these House Committees and Investigations, it is amazing how all of the Confidential Testimonies which have remained Confidential for the past years have suddenly begun to get "leaked" to their stenographer brethren who call themselves "the press" - shockers.

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Monday, January 14, 2019 9:29 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Now that Democraps have taken over all these House Committees and Investigations, it is amazing how all of the Confidential Testimonies which have remained Confidential for the past years have suddenly begun to get "leaked" to their stenographer brethren who call themselves "the press" - shockers.



It's great.

Was it you or 6 that wanted Trump to release confidential documents recently? I heard somewhere it was you.

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Friday, January 25, 2019 7:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

Another Monday coming around in a few days. Last one of the month.

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Friday, January 25, 2019 10:28 PM

REAVERFAN


This regime is circling the drain already. It's all over but the sentencing.

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Friday, January 25, 2019 11:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 1, 2019 12:18 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

And no more Mondays left in January.

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Friday, February 1, 2019 12:19 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

And no more Mondays left in January.

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Friday, February 1, 2019 12:19 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

And no more Mondays left in January.

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Friday, February 1, 2019 12:19 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

And no more Mondays left in January.

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Sunday, February 10, 2019 1:56 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

But tomorrow is another Monday.

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Monday, February 11, 2019 8:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

But tomorrow is another Monday.

In Closed Hearing, a Clue About ‘the Heart’ of Mueller’s Russia Inquiry
Putin helped Trump to get elected and Trump helped Putin. The day Mueller reveals that will be the day all Trump voters demand a video of Trump shaking hands with Putin while saying "It's a deal." But when Trump voters get the video, they will claim it is fake, that there is "Still No Evidence".

More at www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/in-closed-hearing-a-clue-about-the-hea
rt-of-muellers-russia-inquiry/ar-BBTq9dW


Now that I think of it, Trump voters will say "Fake News" when Mueller traces $1 billion from Putin's bank to Trump's bank. They will again be saying "Fake News" when Mueller proves Trump did not pay the taxes owed on that billion. Trump has already said it about not paying inheritance taxes owed on his parent's estate.
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-sc
hemes-fred-trump.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, February 11, 2019 8:39 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The day Mueller reveals that will be the day all Trump voters demand a video of Trump shaking hands with Putin while saying "It's a deal." But when Trump voters get the video, they will claim it is fake, that there is "Still No Evidence".



Even if: Donny 2-face admits live on camera that he colluded with Russia, and then goes into detail laying out all the dealings he had and that were in the works, will be the day that Trump fans rise up and say he was forced to do so under penalty of [insert conspiracy theory here] - ie "to save his family!"

Why do people believe in what is observably false (conspiracy theories)?

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/201801/why-do-peo
ple-believe-in-conspiracy-theories


"The desire to maintain a positive self-image. Research shows that people who feel socially marginalized are more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. We all have a desire to maintain a positive self-image, which usually comes from the roles we play in life—our jobs and our relationships with family and friends. When we know we make a positive difference in the lives of others—as parent, spouse, friend, teacher or mentor—we see our own lives as worthwhile, and we feel good about ourselves.

But say Uncle Joe is on disability and hasn’t worked in years. He feels socially excluded. However, he does have plenty of time to surf the internet for information about conspiracy theories, and he can chat online with others who hold similar beliefs. Thus, belief in conspiracy theories gives Uncle Joe a sense of community."

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Monday, February 11, 2019 8:40 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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And let's also not forget on broadcast tv Dump's guilty/idiot conscience getting the better of him: "I fired Comey because of the Russia thing." That's Obstruction 101, that's Evidence. But why bother pointing it to the Trump droids?

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Monday, February 11, 2019 9:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
And let's also not forget on broadcast tv Dump's guilty/idiot conscience . . .

Remember H Ross Perot? His famous catch phrase was urging voters to listen for the "giant sucking sound" of American jobs heading south to Mexico should NAFTA be ratified. Despite stopping and restarting his Presidential campaign in the middle of the election season, he got 18.9% of the votes. He was one flaky businessman, but not an all out liar like Trump. The same Texans I know who voted for Perot, voted for Trump. Texans really love to vote for rich guys with diarrhea of the mouth. Perot showed Trump that a nut could become President, but not if he started a third party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot#1992_presidential_campaign

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Monday, February 11, 2019 10:43 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Why do people believe in what is observably false (conspiracy theories)?



The entire platform of the left for 2 years has been a conspiracy theory.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 11, 2019 11:47 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Why do people believe in what is observably false (conspiracy theories)?


The entire platform of the left for 2 years has been a conspiracy theory.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Much longer than that.

Did Oswald shoot JFK, with Zero Visibility and The Magic Bullet?
Has AIDS ever been proven? No other theory in the history of medicine has persisted longer without being proven.
When algore invented Global Warming, who knew politicians would make it their only campaign priority?
Did Man walk on the Moon, or did we just need to defund NASA?



Still No Evidence on Trump! Russia! Collusion!

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Monday, February 11, 2019 1:33 PM

REAVERFAN


Robert Mueller's lead prosecutor drops hint suggesting Russian collusion is still very much on the menu
https://theweek.com/speedreads/823078/robert-muellers-lead-prosecutor-
drops-hint-suggesting-russian-collusion-still-much-menu


Tick tock.

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Monday, February 11, 2019 1:56 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did Oswald shoot JFK, with Zero Visibility and The Magic Bullet?
Has AIDS ever been proven? No other theory in the history of medicine has persisted longer without being proven.
When algore invented Global Warming, who knew politicians would make it their only campaign priority?
Did Man walk on the Moon, or did we just need to defund NASA?
Still No Evidence on Trump! Russia! Collusion!



^That's what I call evidunce

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Monday, February 11, 2019 2:00 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Why do people believe in what is observably false (conspiracy theories)?



The entire platform of the left for 2 years has been a conspiracy theory.



All those convictions and indictments were phony, right? All the intel agencies who said that Russia tried (and maybe succeeded) influencing the election were just making sh*t up?

Like I said...

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:22 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

I hear Mueller is about to announce the end of his fecal inspection, and might not even bother with a report. Nothing to put in any report, No Evidence, No Charges, just a waste of time and money.

No sensible person expected otherwise.

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:40 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Senate Intelligence Committee, Dems and Repubs, find no evidence of collusion.

What's Rachel Maddow going to hyperventilate about now?

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 7:24 AM

THG


tick tock____T

‘Prosecutors Almost Never Have Direct Evidence Of Criminal Conspiracies’





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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 8:30 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Yup... Finally going to end this charade.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 8:35 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well geeTHUGR, nice of you - and MSNBC- to admit what I've been saying all along: There is NO EVIDENCE.

Now, one of the things about this committee is that it is privy to "highly classified" information - like, for example, if there were NSA intercepts between the Trump team and RUSSIA!!! - but alas, no such EVIDENCE exists to support your delusion.

If you recall, the contacts between people who claimed to represent Russia (like Mifsud) were all initiated from the other side, and most of them were set up by employees and associates of GPSFusion = the opposition research company paid by the HILLARY campaign. It was all bait, as far as I can tell, to try to get the Trump campaign in trouble. That, along with the so-called Steele "dossier" was disinformation. And then all of this disinfo was whipped into a froth, like a hippo whips its shit, by a series of unmaskings, leaks, and illegally-framed FISA warrants. Each time I followed the trail of your so-called evidence, it evaporated into nothing.

Mueller's last act of desperation is trying to claim that Julian Assange was the Trump campaign's link to Russia. But so far, all Mueller has been able to do is gin up a series of "process crimes" about events which weren't even illegal.

This whole RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!! campaign has been one giant attempted coup by the deep state, including Obama, Hillary, and the DNC.

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 9:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well geeTHUGR, nice of you - and MSNBC- to admit what I've been saying all along: There is NO EVIDENCE.

Now, one of the things about this committee is that it is privy to "highly classified" information - like, for example, if there were NSA intercepts between the Trump team and RUSSIA!!! - but alas, no such EVIDENCE exists to support your delusion.

If you recall, the contacts between people who claimed to represent Russia (like Mifsud) were all initiated from the other side, and most of them were set up by employees and associates of GPSFusion = the opposition research company paid by the HILLARY campaign. It was all bait, as far as I can tell, to try to get the Trump campaign in trouble. That, along with the so-called Steele "dossier" was disinformation. And then all of this disinfo was whipped into a froth, like a hippo whips its shit, by a series of unmaskings, leaks, and illegally-framed FISA warrants. Each time I followed the trail of your so-called evidence, it evaporated into nothing.

Mueller's last act of desperation is trying to claim that Julian Assange was the Trump campaign's link to Russia. But so far, all Mueller has been able to do is gin up a series of "process crimes" about events which weren't even illegal.

This whole RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!! campaign has been one giant attempted coup by the deep state, including Obama, Hillary, and the DNC.




lol

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 9:40 AM

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I agree. It has all been extremely funny.


I'm just wondering what the new hate will be when the Russia thing is finally put to bed. Can't let the crazies go without feeding them. What would happen to the ratings at the media outlets that are already laying off people?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:54 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I agree. It has all been extremely funny.


I'm just wondering what the new hate will be when the Russia thing is finally put to bed. Can't let the crazies go without feeding them. What would happen to the ratings at the media outlets that are already laying off people?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I swear to god, small g, that Trump spews conspiracy theories faster and farther than anyone else in politics. Where does he get his ideas? Here is a paragraph from an article about Trump's sources:

Stone and Trump have long avoided defining themselves by party politics. Indeed, for many years it wasn’t clear which party Trump belonged to, and during his 2000 flirtation with a Presidential run he considered doing it as a third-party candidate. This was in line with Stone’s belief that Trump’s real adversary, both then and now, was “the deep state”—a term with a hazy definition. “It’s what Eisenhower called the military-industrial complex,” Stone told me, “but it’s broader than that. It’s the intelligence agencies, the entire national-security apparatus, and it doesn’t change, regardless of who is President.” Stone elaborated on the definition in his foreword to a new book, “The Plot to Destroy Trump: How the Deep State Fabricated the Russian Dossier to Subvert the President,” by Theodore Roosevelt Malloch, an American writer who lives in England. Stone refers to the “two-party duopoly” that brought about “endless wars” in the Middle East and “the erosion of civil liberties” at home. “The Republicans and the Democrats, the elites of both parties, were working together, the Bushes and the Clintons, whose policies and truths were largely indistinguishable,” he writes. Trump represented a rejection of the deep state’s hegemony, and now, according to Stone, the deep state was fighting back: “We are witnessing the beginning of the collapse of an illegitimate effort to reverse what the Deep State could not do in the 2016 election.” Stone has a daily show on the Internet outlet Infowars, which is owned by the conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, who has been banned from Twitter and other social-media sites for his abusive behavior and who has claimed that the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School, in 2012, did not take place. Stone devotes much of his show each day to the perfidies of the deep state. He, too, was banned from Twitter, in 2017, after he posted a series of tweets directed at CNN personalities in which he called Don Lemon an “ignorant lying covscuker.”

If Stone helped define Trump’s obsessions, then Corsi, who found his way into Trump’s world through a more circuitous route, justified them. . . .

Trump's idea man, Jerome Corsi, is crazier than Trump: Corsi describes his struggle as spiritual. As he writes in his e-book, “The United States under the Deep State masters has begun to descend into a political Hell that I previously thought could only happen under Hitler’s Gestapo, Stalin’s KGB, or Mao’s Cultural Revolution. My particular Kafkaesque nightmare is nothing more than punishment for the crime of being a vocal supporter of Donald Trump and for having worked with Roger Stone to promote Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign.” Corsi concludes with his own version of a serenity prayer: “I am with God. Are you?”

More at www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/02/18/roger-stones-and-jerome-corsis-t
ime-in-the-barrel


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:07 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


If you want to know who does the deep state's bidding, all you have to do is look at those in power who've lined up to push this false narrative against Trump. That would include MI6, Clapper, Comey, Obama, MSNBC and most of the rest of M$M.

But if you want to knw who the deep state is, you'd have to look a lot deeper because the members prefer to remain invisible. I'd suggest looking among the ultra-lite ... that 0.01% which owns over half of the world's asssets. You don't really think that they got rich... and then richer... twisting the world's laws and media and militaries and technologies and bureaucracies to their advantge ... by accident, do you?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:21 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If you want to know who does the deep state's bidding, all you have to do is look at those in power who've lined up to push this false narrative against Trump. That would include MI6, Clapper, Comey, Obama, MSNBC and most of the rest of M$M.

But if you want to knw who the deep state is, you'd have to look a lot deeper because the members prefer to remain invisible. I'd suggest looking among the ultra-lite ... that 0.01% which owns over half of the world's asssets. You don't really think that they got rich... and then richer... twisting the world's laws and media and militaries and technologies and bureaucracies to their advantge ... by accident, do you?

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

Trump twisted the tax law to his advantage. That would make him part of the Deep State. And he sure knows how to make himself look like a crook. He must be part of the Deep State conspiracy against the President.

Trump may be guilty of massive tax fraud. Don’t let it fall down the memory hole.
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/10/04/trump-may-be-guil
ty-of-massive-tax-fraud-dont-let-it-fall-down-the-memory-hole
/
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-sc
hemes-fred-trump.html


President Trump says the tax bill will ‘cost me a fortune.’ That’s false.
www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/11/30/president-trump
-says-the-tax-bill-will-cost-me-a-fortune-thats-false
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 8:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, there are Big Fish in the deep state, and little fish. Trump is a little fish. As I have posted (more than once) he's a national capitalist, not an international one. In the grand scheme of things, if he maintains American sovereignty he's fighting the Big Fish. Is he 100% what I want? Again, as I've posted MANY times, he is not. But he's fighting against global financialism, which IMHO would put us in thrall to a faceless unreachable autocracy and is the driver of the bigger ills that face us, so in the grand scheme of things Trump is sideways to my goals but the deep state is directly opposite.

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Wednesday, February 13, 2019 8:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, there are Big Fish in the deep state, and little fish. Trump is a little fish. As I have posted (more than once) he's a national capitalist, not an international one. In the grand scheme of things, if he maintains American sovereignty he's fighting the Big Fish. Is he 100% what I want? Again, as I've posted MANY times, he is not. But he's fighting against global financialism, which IMHO would put us in thrall to a faceless unreachable autocracy and is the driver of the bigger ills that face us, so in the grand scheme of things Trump is sideways to my goals but the deep state is directly opposite.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

Is John Bolton a little fish, like Trump? Bolton called for War. Rudy Giuliani, who now serves as Trump’s personal lawyer, called for the overthrow of Iran’s government on Wednesday during a rally in Poland. Is Rudy really serving Trump or is he serving the Deep State, which is always ready for another war? Or is it Trump serving the Deep State's need for war? It is impossible to know Trump's or Rudy's real motives. Rudy admitted that he was paid by the MEK, but stressed to reporters that he was in Warsaw on behalf of the MEK in his personal capacity and would not be attending the diplomatic conference organized by the State Department.
https://theintercept.com/2019/02/13/iran-netanyahu-giuliani/

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