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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:40 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Too bad Trump doesn't Declassify the documents. He said he wanted to, but since Democraps are keen to keep hidden the evidence of so many of their crimes, they convinced him not to. So far.



"The Democrats convinced him not to"... hmmm... really? Trump listening to any Democrats? Does that make sense to even you?

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Sunday, January 6, 2019 4:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

But the first Monday of the year is coming up. Hopefully Trolls hold their breath until then.

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Sunday, January 6, 2019 5:20 PM

REAVERFAN


Tons of evidence. More every day. 36 indictments. 192 criminal charges.

It's just getting started. But, I understand that as a Russian troll, you're paid to say stupid shit regularly.

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Sunday, January 6, 2019 8:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Tons of evidence. More every day. 36 indictments. 192 criminal charges.



Not a single one on Trump so far.

Once again, it sounds to me like the swamp is being drained.


Trump spent his entire life until 2015 as a Democrat.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 7, 2019 6:53 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted:
Tons of evidence. More every day. 36 indictments. 192 criminal charges.


Not a single one on Trump so far.

Once again, it sounds to me like the swamp is being drained.


Trump spent his entire life until 2015 as a Democrat.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Lifelong Democrats turning on Lifelong Democrats, lynching Lifelong Democrats.
And this affects me how?
Why is it so hard for me to care?
Seems an effective way to Drain the Swamp, but not very efficient - costing way too much.


Still No Evidence.

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Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

Can we get Trolls to hold their breath until Monday?

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Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Seems an effective way to Drain the Swamp, but not very efficient - costing way too much.



Since when has our government ever done anything efficiently and on a reasonable budget?



Flush em all out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:36 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

But the first Monday of the year is coming up. Hopefully Trolls hold their breath until then.

You're a troll, and we all know it.

His campaign manager and lawyer both pleaded guilty. Given Trump's constant micromanagement, there's no way he didn't know, and the evidence that he did is there.

Your boss's other employee is going down.

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Thursday, January 10, 2019 5:47 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

But the first Monday of the year is coming up. Hopefully Trolls hold their breath until then.

You're a troll, and we all know it.

His campaign manager and lawyer both pleaded guilty. Given Trump's constant micromanagement, there's no way he didn't know, and the evidence that he did is there.

Your boss's other employee is going down.



Well said...

T



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Thursday, January 10, 2019 11:51 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"there's no way he didn't know, and the evidence that he did is there"

link?

wait ... what WAS I thinking?

that's too much like looking for facts




tic tac

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Friday, January 11, 2019 8:18 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"there's no way he didn't know, and the evidence that he did is there"

link?

wait ... what WAS I thinking?

that's too much like looking for facts




tic tac


Merely for having sat calmly through George H.W. Bush’s funeral on Wednesday, Donald Trump was hailed by some as having turned a more presidential page. Alas, it was another Groundhog Day in a loop of Trumpian false dawns. Since then, Mr Trump announced the exit of his chief of staff, John Kelly, appointed Heather Nauert, a former Fox News talking head, to be the next UN ambassador, named a new attorney-general, William Barr, and was effectively labelled a criminal by his own Department of Justice. For good measure, he also called Rex Tillerson, his former secretary of state, “dumb as a rock” and “lazy as hell”.

Mr Trump is battening down the hatches for the second half of his presidential term. It promises to be much stormier than the first. Robert Mueller, the special counsel, is methodically lining up his targets for what increasingly looks like a recommended indictment of Mr Trump for more than one federal crime. On Friday, “individual #1”, as Mr Trump is called in the filings, was implicated in a federal crime in the sentencing reports for Michael Cohen, his estranged personal lawyer, and Paul Manafort, his former campaign chairman.

The filings were heavily redacted. But even from what was visible, they establish connections between the Russian government and people around Mr Trump from as early as November 2015 — eight months before he took the Republican nomination. The chess grandmaster, Garry Kasparov, once said that Mr Trump “had more Russia connections than Aeroflot”. Mr Mueller has by no means finished mapping them out.

More at www.ft.com/content/f7b66c02-fb34-11e8-aebf-99e208d3e521

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 11, 2019 8:56 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Mr Trump is battening down the hatches for the second half of his presidential term. It promises to be much stormier than the first. Robert Mueller, the special counsel, is methodically lining up his targets for what increasingly looks like a recommended indictment of Mr Trump for more than one federal crime. On Friday, “individual #1”, as Mr Trump is called in the filings, was implicated in a federal crime in the sentencing reports for Michael Cohen, his estranged personal lawyer, and Paul Manafort, his former campaign chairman.



I'm not familiar with the confirmation process or time line for a new AG, Barr, but once confirmed (is there any doubt?) then he shuts Mueller down and we're back to el Duce. I'm not feeling very shiny on any of this.

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Friday, January 11, 2019 9:36 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I'm not familiar with the confirmation process or time line for a new AG, Barr, but once confirmed (is there any doubt?) then he shuts Mueller down and we're back to el Duce. I'm not feeling very shiny on any of this.

I'm fairly sure that Trump won't destroy America, but he could do the USA a great service by destroying the Republican Party. The longer Trump hangs in there as an incompetent President, maybe even treasonous like Nixon or a tax-cheating criminal like Nixon's V.P. Spiro Agnew, the more likely the GOP will split into third parties that can't get elected, taking all those Trump loyalists down with the party.

Agnew's crookedness was hushed up and Nixon's treason stayed under-reported, but if Trump has done anything like those famous Republicans did, it will come out in public within the next few years, while Trump is still alive, when it can do the maximum harm to the GOP and all those Congressmen who protected Trump from getting the justice he deserved.

Did Nixon Commit Treason on Vietnam? Yes.
www.realclearhistory.com/2017/01/27/did_nixon_commit_treason_on_vietna
m_1374.html


When a Candidate Conspired With a Foreign Power to Win An Election.
It took decades to unravel Nixon’s sabotage of Vietnam peace talks. Now, the full story can be told.
www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-con
spired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461

". . . the fact that it took nearly 50 years for Nixon’s secret to emerge also offers vital lessons for today. It shows how hard it is to find definitive proof of collaboration with a foreign power when officials are determined to hide the truth."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, January 11, 2019 2:13 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I'm fairly sure that Trump won't destroy America, but he could do the USA a great service by destroying the Republican Party. The longer Trump hangs in there as an incompetent President, maybe even treasonous like Nixon or a tax-cheating criminal like Nixon's V.P. Spiro Agnew, the more likely the GOP will split into third parties that can't get elected, taking all those Trump loyalists down with the party.



That's like one of those computer games where you get to make choices along the way and the outcome/plot trail depends on the combination of all of the many choices you make. So... in that vein... that's just one of the possibilities. The other ones include Trump gets a WIN. Like a Dem Cave and a Wall. And that emboldens a-holes like McConnell & Co. And they get a new AG and Rosenstein, one of the last the Guardians, is axed and the darkness descends for 100 years.

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Friday, January 11, 2019 2:46 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I'm fairly sure that Trump won't destroy America, but he could do the USA a great service by destroying the Republican Party. The longer Trump hangs in there as an incompetent President, maybe even treasonous like Nixon or a tax-cheating criminal like Nixon's V.P. Spiro Agnew, the more likely the GOP will split into third parties that can't get elected, taking all those Trump loyalists down with the party.



That's like one of those computer games where you get to make choices along the way and the outcome/plot trail depends on the combination of all of the many choices you make. So... in that vein... that's just one of the possibilities. The other ones include Trump gets a WIN. Like a Dem Cave and a Wall. And that emboldens a-holes like McConnell & Co. And they get a new AG and Rosenstein, one of the last the Guardians, is axed and the darkness descends for 100 years.

The Democrats in Congress can easily avoid that by remaining calm and not caving in to Trump's panicky demands. They can make that easier on themselves by encouraging the calmer ones among the GOP Congressmen to agree that the shutdown must end. With Trump being irrational about his Wall and a panoply of larger issues, he will eventually drive about one quarter of his own people in Congress to distraction, then a mild revolt.

Trump really doesn't have any strategy better than lie about everything. Most GOP Congressmen, even the ones that like him, have noticed that weakness in him. If he actually has committed a felon on the same order as his convicted personal attorney, Trump won't be able to lie his way into a second term, although he will try because that's the only trick he knows, that and shouting. Some of his people in Congress will realize he is a liability and politically incompetent and will stop slavishly following his whims if they don't want to end like him, out of office in 2020.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 2:34 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Still No Evidence.

Are Trolls waiting for another Monday? The 2nd of the year? Wish they would hold their breaths.

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 4:44 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I'm fairly sure that Trump won't destroy America, but he could do the USA a great service by destroying the Republican Party. The longer Trump hangs in there as an incompetent President, maybe even treasonous like Nixon or a tax-cheating criminal like Nixon's V.P. Spiro Agnew, the more likely the GOP will split into third parties that can't get elected, taking all those Trump loyalists down with the party.



That's like one of those computer games where you get to make choices along the way and the outcome/plot trail depends on the combination of all of the many choices you make. So... in that vein... that's just one of the possibilities. The other ones include Trump gets a WIN. Like a Dem Cave and a Wall. And that emboldens a-holes like McConnell & Co. And they get a new AG and Rosenstein, one of the last the Guardians, is axed and the darkness descends for 100 years.



Right now we're in the storm. When it's over America will bloom again. Our justice system will prevail.


T



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Sunday, January 13, 2019 4:51 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

Are Trolls waiting for another Monday? The 2nd of the year? Wish they would hold their breaths.

The Democrats are waiting for the next national election. With Trump being an incompetent chief executive and all GOP Congressmen defending that incompetence, the GOP will lose seats in Congress.

As an extra bonus, if Mueller uncovers a crime by Trump, whether it is tax evasion, or money laundering for the Russian mafia, or attempted shutdown of an FBI investigation (Nixon's downfall was the "smoking gun" tape) it will be even worse for the GOP during the 2020 election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_White_House_tapes#The_%22smoking_g
un%22_tape


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, January 13, 2019 6:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence.

Are Trolls waiting for another Monday? The 2nd of the year? Wish they would hold their breaths.



They're waiting for a Monday...

About 90 Mondays from now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, January 14, 2019 7:19 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Now that Democraps have taken over all these House Committees and Investigations, it is amazing how all of the Confidential Testimonies which have remained Confidential for the past years have suddenly begun to get "leaked" to their stenographer brethren who call themselves "the press" - shockers.

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Monday, January 14, 2019 9:29 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Now that Democraps have taken over all these House Committees and Investigations, it is amazing how all of the Confidential Testimonies which have remained Confidential for the past years have suddenly begun to get "leaked" to their stenographer brethren who call themselves "the press" - shockers.



It's great.

Was it you or 6 that wanted Trump to release confidential documents recently? I heard somewhere it was you.

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