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Wednesday, October 11, 2017 5:24 PM

BYTEMITE


Ah, I appreciate you giving me the benefit of the doubt, but that's very generous of you. I think my earlier bad behaviour on this board was prompted more by depression and anxiety mental illnesses distinct from the gender identity issue, and compounded by negative feelings over my performance in college and then career. Basically, I was unstable to start with. I was hypersensitive to anyone thinking I was stupid or immature as a result, so ironically I acted pretty stupid and immature.

I was kind of a terrible person. Lots of self-fulfilling anxieties about abandonment, lots of trying to get attention when I felt bad. It was pretty embarrassing in retrospect, and I'm sorry for that. I also believed some really dumb stuff back then too, and thought I was smart for it, like I'd learned some kind of secret.

I don't know that I'm particularly stable even yet, and there's bridges I burned that are going to stay burned because things got bad for everyone involved. But I'm trying to be a better person instead of wallowing in my problems and raging uselessly at everything, so that's something I guess.

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Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:29 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Maybe looking deeper into that feeling you had about girl germs a little closer and this might help improve our dialogue here - girls were something different, othered, and gross to you as a young boy. That's true with many other boys that age, because they have a gender identity, they know they are a boy. Since this feeling at that age that the other gender is gross is very common among children, I'm not sure most boys would okay with having to be a girl as you're saying here. I don't think for most people that a simple bribe of candy or ice cream would be enough. I think many of them feel other boys would be cruel to them, and they'd be worried about friendships and social acceptance.

Heck at six I was really bothered when someone called me a butch lesbian, like I said, and I didn't even know what that *was*. At five kids are more than capable of knowing whether they identify as a boy, a girl, or not, and they also know how other kids react to them.

You think you would have put up with other kids attacking you, spitting on you, mocking you, because you didn't dress or act like you're supposed to? Keep in mind, this is all stuff that happened to me.

I was a boy because I was grouped with boys, and I was told I was a boy. And girls and boys were different somehow, went to different bathrooms. That's probably where they got girl germs.

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Thursday, October 12, 2017 12:24 AM

OONJERAH


I often wished I was a boy.
By the time I was 5 (1947-48), it was quite obvious from the movies
that Men were Stronger, Braver, more Intelligent, & socially, way
more Important than Women. Men could take care of Everything!
Women could have babies, clean house & be helpless in an emergency.
Go ahead: Watch some of the 40's-50's adventure movies.

Tarzan: "Me Tarzan. You Jane."


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Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:09 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Ah, I appreciate you giving me the benefit of the doubt, but that's very generous of you. I think my earlier bad behaviour on this board was prompted more by depression and anxiety mental illnesses distinct from the gender identity issue, and compounded by negative feelings over my performance in college and then career. Basically, I was unstable to start with. I was hypersensitive to anyone thinking I was stupid or immature as a result, so ironically I acted pretty stupid and immature.

I was kind of a terrible person. Lots of self-fulfilling anxieties about abandonment, lots of trying to get attention when I felt bad. It was pretty embarrassing in retrospect, and I'm sorry for that. I also believed some really dumb stuff back then too, and thought I was smart for it, like I'd learned some kind of secret.

I don't know that I'm particularly stable even yet, and there's bridges I burned that are going to stay burned because things got bad for everyone involved. But I'm trying to be a better person instead of wallowing in my problems and raging uselessly at everything, so that's something I guess.

FWIW, I never thought of you as a "terrible" person. I recall being impressed with some of your insights ... as well as worried about some of your issues. Not sure that I ever got mad or fed up with you. If I did, I'm sorry.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Ah, I appreciate you giving me the benefit of the doubt, but that's very generous of you. I think my earlier bad behaviour on this board was prompted more by depression and anxiety mental illnesses distinct from the gender identity issue, and compounded by negative feelings over my performance in college and then career. Basically, I was unstable to start with. I was hypersensitive to anyone thinking I was stupid or immature as a result, so ironically I acted pretty stupid and immature.

I was kind of a terrible person. Lots of self-fulfilling anxieties about abandonment, lots of trying to get attention when I felt bad. It was pretty embarrassing in retrospect, and I'm sorry for that. I also believed some really dumb stuff back then too, and thought I was smart for it, like I'd learned some kind of secret.

I don't know that I'm particularly stable even yet, and there's bridges I burned that are going to stay burned because things got bad for everyone involved. But I'm trying to be a better person instead of wallowing in my problems and raging uselessly at everything, so that's something I guess.

I must have missing all that.

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