REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 5:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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This isn't an American problem specifically, Second. This is the human condition.

Hell... this story plays out in great video game franchises like Final Fantasy, specifically Final Fantasy X and X2 (one of the few games in the franchise that had a direct sequel). The people of the world in the first game were unified under the global threat "Sin" and lived relatively meager existences under the tyrannical oppression of this beast that nobody could escape. But when it was vanquished at the end of the first game the world was able to make many advancements both technological and cultural and by the time X2 came out, two of the female lead characters from the first game that helped save the world from Sin had become Pop Stars. The world had become soft without the everpresent threat of Sin and was ripe for the picking when a new threat emerged.

These games and the stories behind them were written and created solely by people in Japan.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:30 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Trump’s Legal Theories About Stormy Daniels Are So Bogus Even Walter Sobchak From The Big Lebowski Sees Through Them

https://slate.com/culture/2018/03/stephen-colbert-trumps-legal-theorie
s-are-so-bogus-even-walter-sobchak-sees-through-them.html


It’s not every day that you can demonstrate that the president and his legal team don’t have a leg to stand on with a 3-second clip from Joel and Ethan Coen’s 1998 film The Big Lebowski, but every day of the Trump administration brings new surprises. On Monday, Stephen Colbert took a look at Trump’s reported plan to prevent CBS from airing a 60 Minutes interview with adult film star Stormy Daniels, and noticed that Walter Sobchak, the irascible Vietnam veteran played by John Goodman in the Coen’s ode to slacking around Los Angeles, delivers an impassioned explanation as to precisely why Trump and his lawyers are full of shit. Here’s what Sobchak has to say:

"The Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint!"

It’s worth noting that in the context of the film—Sobchak explaining to an angry waitress that he has the right to holler, “Forget about the fucking toe!” regardless of what she or the other patrons might think of it—his legal theories are not entirely accurate. But in the previously unimaginable context we’re living in right now—a presidential candidate allegedly paying hush money to an adult film star, then becoming president, then trying to prevent a TV network from airing an interview with the adult film star in question despite well-established legal precedents that make that an unlikely prospect—well, sometimes there’s a man for his time and place. Still, as satisfying as this Trump-related-Walter-Sobchak-from-The-Big-Lebowski coincidence is, it will pale compared to the inevitably approaching day when Robert Mueller sits Trump down and asks him, under oath, “Is this your homework, Larry?”



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:44 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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No shame at all in admitting that I don't read propaganda.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Although you say you are not a Republican, all Republicans in Texas say they don't read propaganda written by Democrats. If you did read, that would have been solid proof that you are definitely not a Republican. Then your assertions that you are an "Independent" would be more believable. Essentially, 6ixStringJack, you are wearing a tee shirt that says "Independent" on the front, while the back of the shirt, the part everyone but you can see, says "Republican".

Maybe you should put your shirt on backwards? It won't look any stupider than you look now.

I suppose your explanation why you spent so much time reading up on Gates inventing 1s and 0s, Flat Earth, algore inventing the Internet, Oswald being Lone Gunman, the falling sky, and Betsy Ross, Susan Anthony, Hamilton & Franklin being the Greatest Presidents give insight to why you're so gullible.

Is that why you refuse to attribute your posts, so 6ix will think what you plagiarized is your original words, and read the drivel you copied?

And I suppose second also spends much time reading up on how Mercury is so diligent in his daily travel duties.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:56 AM

REAVERFAN


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NYT editor was caught on hidden camera targeting the President of the USA, and denying any sort of objectivity.


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While talking about being objective at the Times, Dudich replies candidly, "No I'm not, that's why I'm here."

Dudich considers himself an important player at the New York Times, telling the Project Veritas Journalist "my voice is on... my imprint is on every video we do."

Dudich goes on to explain what he might do to target President Trump:

"I'd target his businesses, his dumb fuck of a son, Donald Jr., and Eric...

"Target that. Get people to boycott going to his hotels. Boycott... So a lot of the Trump brands, if you can ruin the Trump brand and you put pressure on his business and you start investigating his business and you start shutting it down, or they're hacking or other things. He cares about his business more than he cares about being President. He would resign. Or he'd lash out and do something incredibly illegal, which he would have to."

When the undercover journalist asks Dudich if he could make sure that the anti-Trump stories make it to the front, he replied, "Oh, we always do."

So much for the objectivity and sanctity of the "free" (corporate) press!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-10/okeefe-takes-aim-nyt-records-
editor-admitting-targeting-trumps-buinesses-his-dumb-fk


I'll post this in a thread where it really belongs, but just put this here to counter THUGR'S off-topic post.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Project Veritas? Sorry. You'll need a credible source.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:20 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

And I suppose second also spends much time reading up on how Mercury is so diligent in his daily travel duties.

Do you spend much time reading about Stormy Daniels? Secrets worth paying north of a hundred grand to keep could be powerful tools in the hands of foreign governments or domestic special interests. Is Daniels the only woman Trump has paid off? Have his other secrets been successfully kept from other interested parties? Who has leverage over the president, and what are they using it for?

From the public’s standpoint, the key issue isn’t Daniels’s story — it’s the circumstances surrounding the payoff and how many similar deals are out there. The problem with a powerful public official having valuable secrets is they can be exploited for more than just financial gain. Nobody with this kind of exposure to blackmail or manipulation by special interests or foreign intelligence agencies would be able to get a high-end security clearance.

The president is exempt from the normal security procedure rules on the grounds that the voters rather than the security bureaucrats should be able to decide. But that simply underscores the fact that the voters deserve to know the truth about the scope of Trump’s secrets and the lengths he’s willing to go to keep them.

Steve Bannon said Trump attorney Marc Kasowitz, “has gotten him out of all kinds of jams. Kasowitz on the campaign — what did we have, a hundred women? Kasowitz took care of all of them.” There could be 100 more Stormy Daniels out there, all paid to be quiet about Trump's secrets. 100 National Security risks.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:53 AM

THGRRI


House Intel Republican contradicts panel, says Russia tried to help Trump in 2016

Rep. Tom Rooney (R-Fla.), a member of the House Intelligence Committee, said on Monday that "there is evidence" showing the Russians attempted to help Trump during the 2016 presidential election, contradicting a draft report from the panel.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-intel-republican-contrad
icts-panel-says-russia-tried-to-help-trump-in-2016/ar-BBK90R3?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp



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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:32 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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wow. That series of flawed arguments is so unfounded as to be boggy. Good example of dreaming up evidence or rationalization after forming the conclusion.

Wow yourself, JewelStaiteFan. You didn't read the paper, did you? But you couldn't stop yourself from giving an opinion, could you?

Exactly right again second. Jack is another one who does this, and not the only one either. To Jacks credit, he at least admits it.

No shame at all in admitting that I don't read propaganda.


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No shame at all in admitting that I don't read propaganda.

Although you say you are not a Republican, all Republicans in Texas say they don't read propaganda written by Democrats. If you did read, that would have been solid proof that you are definitely not a Republican. Then your assertions that you are an "Independent" would be more believable. Essentially, 6ixStringJack, you are wearing a tee shirt that says "Independent" on the front, while the back of the shirt, the part everyone but you can see, says "Republican".

Maybe you should put your shirt on backwards? It won't look any stupider than you look now.

I suppose your explanation why you spent so much time reading up on Gates inventing 1s and 0s, Flat Earth, algore inventing the Internet, Oswald being Lone Gunman, the falling sky, and Betsy Ross, Susan Anthony, Hamilton & Franklin being the Greatest Presidents give insight to why you're so gullible.

And I suppose second also spends much time reading up on how Mercury is so diligent in his daily travel duties.



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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
And I suppose second also spends much time reading up on how Mercury is so diligent in his daily travel duties.

Do you spend much time reading about Stormy Daniels?

Stormy Daniels? Stage Name for Stephanie Clifford?

Is this your flimsy attempt to deflect, or are you really this dense?
Stormy Daniels is not a Mythological entity, even if she is a resident of your dreams.
You demanding that 6ix read every possible bit of Mythology just to gain credence in your view has no bearing on your favorite porn Starlet.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 8:07 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Stormy Daniels? Stage Name for Stephanie Clifford?

Is this your flimsy attempt to deflect, or are you really this dense?
Stormy Daniels is not a Mythological entity, even if she is a resident of your dreams.
You demanding that 6ix read every possible bit of Mythology just to gain credence in your view has no bearing on your favorite porn Starlet.

The Man Who Knew Too Little

www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-man-who-knew-too-little/ar-BBK5575?ocid=
spartandhp


GLOUSTER, Ohio — At first, the experiment didn’t have a name. Right after the election, Erik Hagerman decided he’d take a break from reading about the hoopla of politics. Donald Trump’s victory shook him. Badly. And so Mr. Hagerman developed his own eccentric experiment, one that was part silent protest, part coping mechanism, part extreme self-care plan.

He swore that he would avoid learning about anything that happened to America after Nov. 8, 2016.

“It was draconian and complete,” he said. “It’s not like I wanted to just steer away from Trump or shift the conversation. It was like I was a vampire and any photon of Trump would turn me to dust.”

It was just going to be for a few days. But he is now more than a year into knowing almost nothing about American politics. He has managed to become shockingly uninformed during one of the most eventful chapters in modern American history. He is as ignorant as a contemporary citizen could ever hope to be. – James Comey. Russia. Robert Mueller. Las Vegas. The travel ban. “Alternative facts.” Pussy hats. Scaramucci. Parkland. Big nuclear buttons. Roy Moore.

He knows none of it. To Mr. Hagerman, life is a spoiler.

“I just look at the weather,” said Mr. Hagerman, 53, who lives alone on a pig farm in southeastern Ohio. “But it’s only so diverting.” He says he has gotten used to a feeling that he hasn’t experienced in a long time. “I am bored,” he said. “But it’s not bugging me.”

The fact that it’s working for him — “I’m emotionally healthier than I’ve ever felt,” he said — has made him question the very value of being fed each day by the media. Why do we bother tracking faraway political developments and distant campaign speeches? What good comes of it? Why do we read all these tweets anyway?

“I had been paying attention to the news for decades,” Mr. Hagerman said. “And I never did anything with it.”

Much more at www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-man-who-knew-too-little/ar-BBK5575?ocid=
spartandhp


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Too little? It sounds to me like he's got it all figured out.

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“I had been paying attention to the news for decades,” Mr. Hagerman said. “And I never did anything with it.”


That about sums it up for nearly 100% of American's who can't bring themselves to tune out. None of it matters.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:39 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Too little? It sounds to me like he's got it all figured out.

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“I had been paying attention to the news for decades,” Mr. Hagerman said. “And I never did anything with it.”


That about sums it up for nearly 100% of American's who can't bring themselves to tune out. None of it matters.

You didn't understand the article, did you? Mr. Hagerman can safely tune out Trump only because Mr. Hagerman is tremendously wealthy, which insulates him from Trump's failures. More money equals more personal safety and freedom. More insulation from the foolish American President's troubled life.

Hagerman got wealthy by using his head. The same brains that made him rich made him conclude that: “It’s not like I wanted to just steer away from Trump or shift the conversation. It was like I was a vampire and any photon of Trump would turn me to dust.” Trump is a bad President, to simplify the message being clearly sent in the interview with the successful Ohioan who is now retired.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 11:20 AM

THGRRI


Democrat won congressional seat in Trump strong hold in Pennsylvania. Even though Trump campaigned there twice for the republican. The Vice President went, Trumps son went and Kellyanne Conway as well. Oops...


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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 11:37 AM

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Democrat won congressional seat in Trump strong hold in Pennsylvania. Even though Trump campaigned there twice for the republican. The Vice President went, Trumps son went and Kellyanne Conway as well. Oops...

That Republicans manage to be doing so poorly with the economy humming along nicely is a godsend to Democratic Party operatives and political pros. But the foundation of that political success is a substantive disaster for the country.

On a policy level, the Trump-era GOP is pushing unpopular policies on all fronts, from the looming deportation of DREAMers to health care executive actions that are driving up premiums to a rollback net neutrality to the dismantling of consumer financial protection rules. These are enormously harmful to the short-term interests of millions of people and to the long-term interests of nearly the entire country.

At the same time, Trump continues to act like a maniac — just this week, he fired the secretary of state over Twitter, deployed inappropriate political rhetoric at an official speech to active-duty Marines, and denied Russian culpability for assassinations carried out on British soil — and it’s only Wednesday.

At the same time, he’s enmeshed in an unprecedented level of personal corruption; his business enterprises are set up as perfect vehicles for interest groups seeking favors from the government to line his pockets with cash. And the growing Stormy Daniels scandal suggests a whole new dimension of possible corruption and lawbreaking over and above the basic financial conflicts of interest and the shenanigans with the Russians.

The American system, fundamentally, is meant to run more on prudence and separation of powers than on relentless partisan warfare. Congressional Republicans are supposed to see that Trump’s corruption and aberrant behavior are unpopular and do what they can to check him, while Trump is supposed to see that the GOP policy agenda is extreme and unpopular and do what he can to trim its sails. If they did that, the fundamentally benign economic and international climate might assert itself and they’d win the midterms.

Instead, Trump and congressional Republicans are acting like Thelma and Louise holding hands as they drive the car off the cliff.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/14/17118858/pa-18-results-conor
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:33 AM

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What does Martin Shkreli’s downfall tell us about modern America?

http://prospect.org/article/americas-shkreli-problem

March 13, 2018

Shkreli’s early life exemplified the rags-to-riches American success story. He was born in Brooklyn, New York, in April 1983, to parents who immigrated from Albania and worked as janitors in New York apartment buildings. Shkreli attended New York’s Hunter College High School, a public school for intellectually gifted young people, and in 2005 received a bachelor’s degree in business administration from Baruch College.

But soon thereafter, Shkreli turned toward shady deals. He started his own hedge fund, betting that the stock prices of certain biotech companies would drop. Then he used financial chat rooms on the Internet to savage those companies, causing their prices to drop and his bets to pay off.

In 2015, Shkreli founded and became CEO Turing Pharmaceuticals. Under his direction Turing spent $55 million for the U.S. rights to sell a drug called Daraprim. Developed in 1953, Daraprim is the only approved treatment for toxoplasmosis, a rare parasitic disease that can cause birth defects in unborn babies, and lead to seizures, blindness, and death in cancer patients and people with AIDS. Daraprim is on the World Health Organization’s list of Essential Medicines.

Months after he bought the drug, Schkreli raised its price by over 5,000 percent, from $13.50 a pill to $750.00.

Shkreli was roundly criticized, but he was defiant: “No one wants to say it, no one’s proud of it, but this is a capitalist society, a capitalist system and capitalist rules.” He said he wished he had raised the price even higher, and would buy another essential drug and raise its price, too.

In February 2016, Shkreli was called before a congressional committee to justify his price increase on Daraprim. He refused to answer any questions, pleading the Fifth Amendment. After the hearing Shkreli tweeted, “Hard to accept that these imbeciles represent the people in our government.”

Shkreli was subsequently arrested in connection with an unrelated scheme to defraud his former hedge fund investors. In anticipation of his criminal trial, Shkreli boasted to the New Yorker magazine, “I think they’ll return a not-guilty verdict in two hours. There are going to be jurors who will be fans of mine. I walk down the streets of New York and people shake my hand. They say, ‘I want to be just like you.’”

During his trial, Shkreli strolled into a room filled with reporters and made light of a particular witness, for which the trial judge rebuked him. On his Facebook page he mocked the prosecutors, and told news outlets they were a “junior varsity” team.

He retaliated against journalists who criticized him by purchasing internet domains associated with their names and ridiculing them on the sites. “I wouldn’t call these people ‘journalists,’” he wrote in an email to Business Insider. He said on Facebook that if he were acquitted he’d be able to have sex with a female journalist he often posted about online.

After his conviction, Shkreli called the case “a witch hunt of epic proportions, and maybe they found one or two broomsticks.” As she imposed sentence last Friday, the judge cited Shkrili’s “egregious multitude of lies,” noting also that he “repeatedly minimized” his conduct.

How different is Martin Shkreli from other figures who dominate American life today, even at the highest rungs?

Shkreli will do whatever it takes to win, regardless of the consequences for anyone else. He believes that the norms other people live by don’t apply to him. His attitude toward the law is that anything he wants to do is okay unless it is clearly illegal.

He’s contemptuous of anyone who gets in his way—whether judges, prosecutors, members of Congress, or journalists. He remains unapologetic for what he did. He is utterly shameless.

Sound familiar? The Shkreli personality disorder can be found on Wall Street, in the executive suites of some of America’s largest corporations, in Hollywood, in Silicon Valley, in some of our most prestigious universities, and in Washington. If you look hard enough, you might even find it in Trump’s White House.

Face it: America has a Shkreli problem.

Martin Shkleri will spend the next seven years of his life in prison. But what will happen to the other unbridled narcissists now in positions of power in America, who also blatantly defy the common good?

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Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:35 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Too little? It sounds to me like he's got it all figured out.

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“I had been paying attention to the news for decades,” Mr. Hagerman said. “And I never did anything with it.”


That about sums it up for nearly 100% of American's who can't bring themselves to tune out. None of it matters.

You didn't understand the article, did you? Mr. Hagerman can safely tune out Trump only because Mr. Hagerman is tremendously wealthy, which insulates him from Trump's failures. More money equals more personal safety and freedom. More insulation from the foolish American President's troubled life.

Hagerman got wealthy by using his head. The same brains that made him rich made him conclude that: “It’s not like I wanted to just steer away from Trump or shift the conversation. It was like I was a vampire and any photon of Trump would turn me to dust.” Trump is a bad President, to simplify the message being clearly sent in the interview with the successful Ohioan who is now retired.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Still sounds to me like he's got it all figured out.

All the people I care about are pretty much covered now, and the only way they're going down is if the whole country tanks and then we're all in the same boat anyhow.

That just leaves me and my paid for house and my piece of shit car and my decaying teeth and my part time job.

I won't ever live a life of luxury, but I don't have to take shit from anyone and that's the most valuable thing in the world in my eyes.

I'm not joking when I say that fff.net is my only source of news these days. Once I stopped drinking it wasn't long after that I stopped paying attention outside of here. So many good things I've done in my life since then, and it just keeps improving.


You're just a static character, second. A broken record. Every post you make in March of 2018 sounds exactly the same as it sounded in November of 2016.

Name me one good thing all of that bitching has done for you. What have you personally accomplished in that time?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:40 AM

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I won't ever live a life of luxury, but I don't have to take shit from anyone and that's the most valuable thing in the world in my eyes.

I had to take shit from everybody, 6ix. You’re smarter than me, younger than me. You could do better than me, but to do better you will need to give a shit and take some shit because America is a hierarchy. I spent 19 years at the same shitty job. Got laid off twice. I didn’t have the good sense to find a better job during those down times. The first full year worked, I made $17,189 in 1978. My best year, with overtime, was $66,622. And it was all to accumulate capital. 6ixStringJack, I wish you the best of luck and hope things go smoother for you than it did for me. And in America, things will, if you use your superior brain, rather than taking life easy, not planning ahead, and resigning yourself to doing only enough to survive. I see that you have already taken my advice before I even gave it:
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So many good things I've done in my life since then, and it just keeps improving.
Imagine me as Montgomery Burns saying about you, "Excellent!"



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:27 AM

THGRRI


Does working class support for President Trump prove shallow when a Democrat makes a populist economic argument? The panel digs into the results of Pennsylvania's special election.

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/pennsylvania-race-shows-workin
g-class-trump-support-is-shallow-przybyla-1186582595712



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Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by second:
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I won't ever live a life of luxury, but I don't have to take shit from anyone and that's the most valuable thing in the world in my eyes.

I had to take shit from everybody, 6ix. You’re smarter than me, younger than me. You could do better than me, but to do better you will need to give a shit and take some shit because America is a hierarchy. I spent 19 years at the same shitty job. Got laid off twice. I didn’t have the good sense to find a better job during those down times. The first full year worked, I made $17,189 in 1978. My best year, with overtime, was $66,622. And it was all to accumulate capital. 6ixStringJack, I wish you the best of luck and hope things go smoother for you than it did for me. And in America, things will, if you use your superior brain, rather than taking life easy, not planning ahead, and resigning yourself to doing only enough to survive. I see that you have already taken my advice before I even gave it:
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So many good things I've done in my life since then, and it just keeps improving.
Imagine me as Montgomery Burns saying about you, "Excellent!"



My motivation to bust my ass making somebody else money is virtually gone at this point. I see no path for any relatively meaningful upward advancement at any companies today without a college degree.

I've got plans for some personal projects I'm working on at the moment however. Just working for somebody else while I'm putting a lot of the pieces together. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 16, 2018 6:54 AM

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My motivation to bust my ass making somebody else money is virtually gone at this point. I see no path for any relatively meaningful upward advancement at any companies today without a college degree.

I've got plans for some personal projects I'm working on at the moment however. Just working for somebody else while I'm putting a lot of the pieces together. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, ask why is Finland happier than Indiana? It might go all the way back to WWII. If the Finns didn’t stick together, they’d all die together. www.history.com/news/ask-history/what-was-the-winter-war That’s certainly not an attitude found in America, where it is every man for himself, every state for itself, winner take all. At least that is the Texas I live in, which can be a brutal land to the losers, and wonderful beyond my greediest dreams to the winners.

Why is Finland happier than the US?
www.pri.org/stories/2018-03-14/why-finland-happier-us-0

"I've joked with the other Americans that we are living the American dream here in Finland," said Brianna Owens, who moved from the United States and is now a teacher in Espoo, Finland's second biggest city with a population of around 280,000.

"I think everything in this society is set up for people to be successful, starting with university and transportation that works really well," Owens told Reuters.

Finland rose from fifth place last year to oust Norway from the top spot. The 2018 Top-10, as ever dominated by the Nordics, is: Finland, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland, Netherlands, Canada, New Zealand, Sweden and Australia.

The United States came in at 18th, down from 14th place last year. Britain was 19th and the United Arab Emirates 20th.

One chapter of the 170-page report is dedicated to emerging health problems such as obesity, depression and the opioid crisis, particularly in the United States where the prevalence of all three has grown faster than in most other countries.

While US income per capita has increased markedly over the last half century, happiness has been hit by weakened social support networks, a perceived rise in corruption in government and business and declining confidence in public institutions.

"We obviously have a social crisis in the United States: more inequality, less trust, less confidence in government," the head of the SDSN, Professor Jeffrey Sachs of New York's Columbia University, told Reuters as the report was launched at the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences.

"It's pretty stark right now. The signs are not good for the US It is getting richer and richer but not getting happier."

Asked how the current political situation in the United States could affect future happiness reports, Sachs said:

"Time will tell, but I would say that in general that when confidence in government is low, when perceptions of corruption are high, inequality is high and health conditions are worsening ... that is not conducive to good feelings."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 16, 2018 6:57 AM

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Does working class support for President Trump prove shallow when a Democrat makes a populist economic argument? The panel digs into the results of Pennsylvania's special election.

www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/pennsylvania-race-shows-working-class-
trump-support-is-shallow-przybyla-1186582595712

Voters May Be Wising Up
www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/opinion/pennsylvania-election-voters.html

There’s no mystery about the Republican agenda. For at least the past 40 years, the G.O.P.’s central policy goal has been upward redistribution of income: lower taxes for the wealthy, big cuts in programs that help the poor and the middle class. We’ve seen that agenda at work in the policies of every Republican president from Reagan to Trump, every budget proposal from party stars like Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House.

This policy agenda is, however, deeply unpopular. Only small minorities of voters favor tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations; even smaller minorities favor cuts in major social programs. So how does the G.O.P. stay politically competitive? The answer is that the party has mastered the tactics of bait and switch: pretending to stand for one thing, then doing something quite different in office.

But if special elections in the Trump era are any indication, voters are wising up. Rick Saccone, the Republican candidate in a deep-red Pennsylvania congressional district that Trump won by almost 20 points, tried not one, not two, but three different bait-and-switch strategies. And on Tuesday he still seems to have suffered a hair-thin defeat.

1) At first, Republicans tried to sell their candidate by touting the 2017 tax cuts, which they portrayed as a boon to the middle class. This was classic Bush-era strategy: The Trump tax cuts, like the Bush tax cuts, did indeed offer some temporary relief to middle-class families, although they offered far more to the wealthy.

What makes this a bait and switch is the hard truth that tax cuts must, eventually, be paid for — in fact, people like Ryan barely waited for the ink on the tax bill to dry before proclaiming that social programs must be cut to reduce the budget deficit the tax cuts will do so much to inflate. And under any plausible allocation of the spending cuts needed to offset lost revenue, the tax cuts will leave most Americans worse off (while, of course, benefiting the top 1 percent).

The thing is, voters seem to have realized this. Republican groups pretty much stopped running ads about the tax cuts weeks before the election, apparently concluding that they weren’t gaining much traction. And election night polling suggests that health care — specifically, opposition to G.O.P. efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act — was a key issue in PA-18.

2) If tax cuts won’t sell, how about tariffs? In 2016 Trump portrayed himself as a different kind of Republican, an economic populist who would stand up for the little guy. In practice, he has been utterly orthodox except for one thing, his willingness to break with free trade. And it’s possible that he announced steel tariffs partly in an effort to swing a district in what used to be steel country. Or he may have been trying to steal Stormy Daniels’s thunder. With Trump, you never know.

Anyway, it didn’t work, perhaps because many Pennsylvania voters realize that steel country isn’t what it used to be, and the old days aren’t coming back. These days there are about 10 times as many hospital workers as steel workers in the Pittsburgh metropolitan area — and surely at least some voters realize that G.O.P. efforts to slash health care threaten their jobs as well as their coverage.

3) Finally, Republicans pulled out their old standby: trying to distract voters from their economic agenda by appealing to racial, cultural and religious enmity. That’s what Ed Gillespie tried in the Virginia gubernatorial race, and in this latest campaign Saccone proclaimed that Democrats are motivated by “hatred for our country” and “hatred of God.” But it didn’t work either time.

Why not? One answer may be that despite the eruptions of racism and anti-Semitism under Trump, America is on the whole a far more tolerant country than it used to be.

4) But there are also Trump-specific issues. It’s hard for Republicans to pose as the party of patriotism while slavishly defending a man who holds office in part thanks to Russian intervention, and seems almost eager to demonstrate that he really is Vladimir Putin’s puppet.

And despite receiving overwhelming support from white evangelicals — which tells you something about the state of conservative Christianity — Trump is surely the least godly man ever to occupy the White House.

So the upset in Pennsylvania wasn’t just a harbinger of likely Democratic gains to come. It also showed the bankruptcy of all the political strategies Republicans have used to distract voters from an unpopular agenda.

5) Yet I have to admit that while the wising-up of American voters is deeply encouraging, it also makes me nervous. History says that Republicans won’t change course, because they never do. They’ll just look for bigger distractions.

And with everyone who showed even an occasional sense of responsibility leaving the Trump administration, you have to wonder what comes next. In particular, regimes in trouble — like, say, the Argentine junta in the 1980s — often try to rally the public with dangerous foreign policy adventurism. Are you sure that Trump won’t go that route? Really sure?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 16, 2018 7:43 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

My motivation to bust my ass making somebody else money is virtually gone at this point. I see no path for any relatively meaningful upward advancement at any companies today without a college degree.

I've got plans for some personal projects I'm working on at the moment however. Just working for somebody else while I'm putting a lot of the pieces together. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, ask why is Finland happier than Indiana? It might go all the way back to WWII. If the Finns didn’t stick together, they’d all die together. www.history.com/news/ask-history/what-was-the-winter-war That’s certainly not an attitude found in America, where it is every man for himself, every state for itself, winner take all. At least that is the Texas I live in, which can be a brutal land to the losers, and wonderful beyond my greediest dreams to the winners.

Why is Finland happier than the US?
www.pri.org/stories/2018-03-14/why-finland-happier-us-0

"I've joked with the other Americans that we are living the American dream here in Finland," said Brianna Owens, who moved from the United States and is now a teacher in Espoo, Finland's second biggest city with a population of around 280,000.

"I think everything in this society is set up for people to be successful, starting with university and transportation that works really well," Owens told Reuters.

Finland rose from fifth place last year to oust Norway from the top spot. The 2018 Top-10, as ever dominated by the Nordics, is: Finland, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland, Netherlands, Canada, New Zealand, Sweden and Australia.

The United States came in at 18th, down from 14th place last year. Britain was 19th and the United Arab Emirates 20th.

One chapter of the 170-page report is dedicated to emerging health problems such as obesity, depression and the opioid crisis, particularly in the United States where the prevalence of all three has grown faster than in most other countries.

While US income per capita has increased markedly over the last half century, happiness has been hit by weakened social support networks, a perceived rise in corruption in government and business and declining confidence in public institutions.

"We obviously have a social crisis in the United States: more inequality, less trust, less confidence in government," the head of the SDSN, Professor Jeffrey Sachs of New York's Columbia University, told Reuters as the report was launched at the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences.

"It's pretty stark right now. The signs are not good for the US It is getting richer and richer but not getting happier."

Asked how the current political situation in the United States could affect future happiness reports, Sachs said:

"Time will tell, but I would say that in general that when confidence in government is low, when perceptions of corruption are high, inequality is high and health conditions are worsening ... that is not conducive to good feelings."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



I plan to have a good amount stored away to give my niece and my brother when I'm gone. Other than that, everyone else is on their own.

Nobody has ever done anything for me in my life that wasn't some trivial, one off thing. I wasted my kindness and put myself out there for people who didn't deserve it.

I've got no fucks left to give. The rest of my life I'm living for me, and as long as I'm not putting anybody else while doing it then there's nothing wrong with that.


Great for Finland. Glad they've got it figured out. Hope the Muslims don't come in and destroy it all for them in the long run.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 16, 2018 8:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I plan to have a good amount stored away to give my niece and my brother when I'm gone. Other than that, everyone else is on their own.

Nobody has ever done anything for me in my life that wasn't some trivial, one off thing. I wasted my kindness and put myself out there for people who didn't deserve it.

I've got no fucks left to give. The rest of my life I'm living for me, and as long as I'm not putting anybody else while doing it then there's nothing wrong with that.


Great for Finland. Glad they've got it figured out. Hope the Muslims don't come in and destroy it all for them in the long run.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, there is much about your response that is very, very Republican and not at all Finnish. In Finland the rich feel obligated to look after the poor. The government tax collector ensures that the “feeling” becomes more than just a feeling. American tax collection does not work like that, at all. In America, 6ix (who is not rich) feels the obligation to sacrifice for his poor family. It is definitely the poor looking after the poorer, while the American rich need not sacrifice anything and can go about their business of growing ever wealthy. Personally, that is great for me, but not so great for 6ix.

That last comment by 6ix was ultra-Republican: “Hope the Muslims don't come in and destroy it all for [the Finns] in the long run." Try googling the question: Why are Republicans always whining and complaining about Muslims, niggers, and Mexicans? Is it something in the GOP DNA that makes Republicans like that? http://time.com/4535292/donald-trump-black-slaves/

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Friday, March 16, 2018 9:18 AM

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Ground Control to Major Don

Trump’s NASA nominee lacks the right stuff, and it’s time to find a better choice.

For the past 421 days, NASA has been without a permanent administrator — longer than any other period in the agency’s history, longer even than any spaceflight any of its astronauts have taken.

President Donald J. Trump’s nominee has little chance of getting off the ground, and it’s time the White House dumps him for a more qualified candidate.

The president’s choice, Oklahoma Rep. Jim Bridenstine, has spent the past four months in the black hole between the Senate Commerce Committee and a full chamber vote — even though he can be confirmed without a single Democrat’s approval. By now one thing is clear: If a Republican nominee from a Republican president can’t get through a Republican Senate, it’s time to pick somebody else.

www.chron.com/opinion/editorials/article/Ground-Control-to-Major-Don-Y
our-NASA-pick-12757175.php


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Friday, March 16, 2018 1:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I plan to have a good amount stored away to give my niece and my brother when I'm gone. Other than that, everyone else is on their own.

Nobody has ever done anything for me in my life that wasn't some trivial, one off thing. I wasted my kindness and put myself out there for people who didn't deserve it.

I've got no fucks left to give. The rest of my life I'm living for me, and as long as I'm not putting anybody else while doing it then there's nothing wrong with that.


Great for Finland. Glad they've got it figured out. Hope the Muslims don't come in and destroy it all for them in the long run.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, there is much about your response that is very, very Republican and not at all Finnish. In Finland the rich feel obligated to look after the poor. The government tax collector ensures that the “feeling” becomes more than just a feeling. American tax collection does not work like that, at all. In America, 6ix (who is not rich) feels the obligation to sacrifice for his poor family. It is definitely the poor looking after the poorer, while the American rich need not sacrifice anything and can go about their business of growing ever wealthy. Personally, that is great for me, but not so great for 6ix.

That last comment by 6ix was ultra-Republican: “Hope the Muslims don't come in and destroy it all for [the Finns] in the long run." Try googling the question: Why are Republicans always whining and complaining about Muslims, niggers, and Mexicans? Is it something in the GOP DNA that makes Republicans like that? http://time.com/4535292/donald-trump-black-slaves/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Wasn't trying to sound Finnish.

I'm just trying to make it to the Finnish.


I also don't give a shit about Time's or your opinion about Muslims either.

Equating Muslims with black and mexican people is the false equivalency that you're drawing here. It's impossible to be racist against Muslims. Muslims are people who practice a diseased ideology. They could be black, white or Mexican too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 16, 2018 2:13 PM

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Quote:

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

My motivation to bust my ass making somebody else money is virtually gone at this point. I see no path for any relatively meaningful upward advancement at any companies today without a college degree.

I've got plans for some personal projects I'm working on at the moment however. Just working for somebody else while I'm putting a lot of the pieces together. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, ask why is Finland happier than Indiana? It might go all the way back to WWII. If the Finns didn’t stick together, they’d all die together. www.history.com/news/ask-history/what-was-the-winter-war That’s certainly not an attitude found in America, where it is every man for himself, every state for itself, winner take all. At least that is the Texas I live in, which can be a brutal land to the losers, and wonderful beyond my greediest dreams to the winners.

Why is Finland happier than the US?
www.pri.org/stories/2018-03-14/why-finland-happier-us-0

"I've joked with the other Americans that we are living the American dream here in Finland," said Brianna Owens, who moved from the United States and is now a teacher in Espoo, Finland's second biggest city with a population of around 280,000.

"I think everything in this society is set up for people to be successful, starting with university and transportation that works really well," Owens told Reuters.

Finland rose from fifth place last year to oust Norway from the top spot. The 2018 Top-10, as ever dominated by the Nordics, is: Finland, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Switzerland, Netherlands, Canada, New Zealand, Sweden and Australia.

The United States came in at 18th, down from 14th place last year. Britain was 19th and the United Arab Emirates 20th.

One chapter of the 170-page report is dedicated to emerging health problems such as obesity, depression and the opioid crisis, particularly in the United States where the prevalence of all three has grown faster than in most other countries.

While US income per capita has increased markedly over the last half century, happiness has been hit by weakened social support networks, a perceived rise in corruption in government and business and declining confidence in public institutions.

"We obviously have a social crisis in the United States: more inequality, less trust, less confidence in government," the head of the SDSN, Professor Jeffrey Sachs of New York's Columbia University, told Reuters as the report was launched at the Vatican's Pontifical Academy of Sciences.

"It's pretty stark right now. The signs are not good for the US It is getting richer and richer but not getting happier."

Asked how the current political situation in the United States could affect future happiness reports, Sachs said:

"Time will tell, but I would say that in general that when confidence in government is low, when perceptions of corruption are high, inequality is high and health conditions are worsening ... that is not conducive to good feelings."

Uff-duh.
Obesity, depression (drugs), and opiods (drugs).
Exactly what Libtards destined us for.
That's why they ended Physical Education in schools. And to combat the resultant loss of physical health they threw drugs at children (to keep them under control, lethargic - instead of letting them burn off steam with recess). And to combat the resulting drug-induced "bipolar" epidemic: throw more drugs at them.

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Friday, March 16, 2018 2:20 PM

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Does working class support for President Trump prove shallow when a Democrat makes a populist economic argument? The panel digs into the results of Pennsylvania's special election.

www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/pennsylvania-race-shows-working-class-
trump-support-is-shallow-przybyla-1186582595712


Voters May Be Wising Up
www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/opinion/pennsylvania-election-voters.html

There’s no mystery about the Republican agenda. For at least the past 40 years, the G.O.P.’s central policy goal has been upward redistribution of income: lower taxes for the wealthy, big cuts in programs that help the poor and the middle class. We’ve seen that agenda at work in the policies of every Republican president from Reagan to Trump, every budget proposal from party stars like Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House.

This policy agenda is, however, deeply unpopular. Only small minorities of voters favor tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations; even smaller minorities favor cuts in major social programs. So how does the G.O.P. stay politically competitive? The answer is that the party has mastered the tactics of bait and switch: pretending to stand for one thing, then doing something quite different in office.

But if special elections in the Trump era are any indication, voters are wising up. Rick Saccone, the Republican candidate in a deep-red Pennsylvania congressional district that Trump won by almost 20 points, tried not one, not two, but three different bait-and-switch strategies. And on Tuesday he still seems to have suffered a hair-thin defeat.

1)

2)

3)

4) But there are also Trump-specific issues. It’s hard for Republicans
Trump!! Russia!!

5)

nytimes? This is where you fail.
Totally unbiased to define a "deep red District" as one with 35,000 more Democrat voters than Republican.



Originally posted by SIGNYM:
NYT editor was caught on hidden camera targeting the President of the USA, and denying any sort of objectivity.
Quote:

While talking about being objective at the Times, Dudich replies candidly, "No I'm not, that's why I'm here."

Dudich considers himself an important player at the New York Times, telling the Project Veritas Journalist "my voice is on... my imprint is on every video we do."

Dudich goes on to explain what he might do to target President Trump:

"I'd target his businesses, his dumb fuck of a son, Donald Jr., and Eric...

"Target that. Get people to boycott going to his hotels. Boycott... So a lot of the Trump brands, if you can ruin the Trump brand and you put pressure on his business and you start investigating his business and you start shutting it down, or they're hacking or other things. He cares about his business more than he cares about being President. He would resign. Or he'd lash out and do something incredibly illegal, which he would have to."

When the undercover journalist asks Dudich if he could make sure that the anti-Trump stories make it to the front, he replied, "Oh, we always do."

So much for the objectivity and sanctity of the "free" (corporate) press!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-10/okeefe-takes-aim-nyt-records-
editor-admitting-targeting-trumps-buinesses-his-dumb-fk



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Monday, March 19, 2018 7:21 AM

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nytimes? This is where you fail.
Totally unbiased to define a "deep red District" as one with 35,000 more Democrat voters than Republican.

JewelStaiteFan, you are no different from Trump. He speaks often of "The Failing New York Times". You and he are using lies as tools. I have found all Republican Texans do the same as you and Trump, at least the ones that are worth my effort to check their truthfulness. They are always the Failing Republican voters. You guys have a perverted relationship with the truth, meaning you won't speak it when you think a lie is more useful.

As a businessman, Trump often fabricated or exaggerated to sell a narrative or advance his interests. In his memoir, “The Art of the Deal,” he called it “truthful hyperbole” or “innocent exaggeration.”

He would call reporters and pretend to be a publicity agent for himself named John Barron or John Miller. He claimed to earn $1 million from a speech when it was $400,000. He claimed to be worth $3.5 billion when seeking a bank loan, four times what the bank eventually found. When trying to lure investors to a hotel project, he had bulldozers dig on one side of the site and dump the dirt on the other to give the impression that the project was making progress.

“He’s a salesman and that’s not about telling the truth, that’s not the DNA about being a salesman,” said Gwenda Blair, the author of “The Trumps: Three Generations of Builders and a President,” a biography of his family. “The DNA of being a salesman is telling people what they want to hear. And he’s got it.”

Trump continued his practice as president. The Washington Post’s fact-checker documented 2,140 false or misleading claims in Trump’s first year in office, a rate of nearly six a day.

A Quinnipiac University poll in January showed that only 35 percent of Americans consider him honest, while 60 percent do not.

Republicans express concern. Amanda Carpenter, a former aide to GOP Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and former Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina, has a new book coming out in May called “Gaslighting America: Why We Love It When Trump Lies to Us.” On the cover is an illustration of Trump with a Pinocchio nose.

Her explanation is that Trump’s supporters do not see deception, they see a commitment to winning.

“Donald Trump’s lies and fabrications don’t horrify America,” says the publisher’s summary of her book. “They enthrall us.” It is a widespread and serious character defect of Republicans.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/17/us/politics/trump-truth-lies.htm
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Monday, March 19, 2018 7:22 AM

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Trump sits down with Anderson Cooper to discuss Stormy Daniels



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Monday, March 19, 2018 3:22 PM

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Monday, March 19, 2018 5:41 PM

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One of the many problems with facebook

http://www.msnbc.com/velshi-ruhle/watch/galloway-facebook-will-continu
e-to-do-everything-cambridge-analytica-did-1189600835961



T



"This was not a data breach. Some users were paid to take a personality survey."

lol...

Well... duh.

I'm betting most of these people have Alexa in their home today too.



Have you ever noticed when talking about something on your smartphone or around Alexa that the next time you go to YouTube that your reccomendations have some videos regarding key words that you were talking about recently, or Google/Amazon ads show things you might be interested in?

All of this stuff is legal because you clicked OK.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 19, 2018 6:15 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I don't know if other people get the little task bar that shows what's loading up when a page comes up. I've noticed because - I dunno. Just curious. One of the links in the list when clicking on web-pages here is google-analytics.com And what IS google analytics you might ask? Here, let them tell you, in their own words ...

https://www.google.com/analytics/#?modal_active=none




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Monday, March 19, 2018 7:41 PM

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nytimes? This is where you fail.
Totally unbiased to define a "deep red District" as one with 35,000 more Democrat voters than Republican.

JewelStaiteFan, you are no different from Trump. He speaks often of "The Failing New York Times". You and he are using lies as tools. I have found all Republican Texans do the same as you and Trump, at least the ones that are worth my effort to check their truthfulness. They are always the Failing Republican voters. You guys have a perverted relationship with the truth, meaning you won't speak it when you think a lie is more useful.

As a businessman, Trump often fabricated or exaggerated to sell a narrative or advance his interests. In his memoir, “The Art of the Deal,” he called it “truthful hyperbole” or “innocent exaggeration.”

He would call reporters and pretend to be a publicity agent for himself named John Barron or John Miller. He claimed to earn $1 million from a speech when it was $400,000. He claimed to be worth $3.5 billion when seeking a bank loan, four times what the bank eventually found. When trying to lure investors to a hotel project, he had bulldozers dig on one side of the site and dump the dirt on the other to give the impression that the project was making progress.

“He’s a salesman and that’s not about telling the truth, that’s not the DNA about being a salesman,” said Gwenda Blair, the author of “The Trumps: Three Generations of Builders and a President,” a biography of his family. “The DNA of being a salesman is telling people what they want to hear. And he’s got it.”

Trump continued his practice as president. The Washington Post’s fact-checker documented 2,140 false or misleading claims in Trump’s first year in office, a rate of nearly six a day.

A Quinnipiac University poll in January showed that only 35 percent of Americans consider him honest, while 60 percent do not.

Republicans express concern. Amanda Carpenter, a former aide to GOP Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and former Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina, has a new book coming out in May called “Gaslighting America: Why We Love It When Trump Lies to Us.” On the cover is an illustration of Trump with a Pinocchio nose.

Her explanation is that Trump’s supporters do not see deception, they see a commitment to winning.

“Donald Trump’s lies and fabrications don’t horrify America,” says the publisher’s summary of her book. “They enthrall us.” It is a widespread and serious character defect of Republicans.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/17/us/politics/trump-truth-lies.htm
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Trump telling more truth really, really offends you, doesn't it?



Originally posted by SIGNYM:
NYT editor was caught on hidden camera targeting the President of the USA, and denying any sort of objectivity.
Quote:

While talking about being objective at the Times, Dudich replies candidly, "No I'm not, that's why I'm here."

Dudich considers himself an important player at the New York Times, telling the Project Veritas Journalist "my voice is on... my imprint is on every video we do."

Dudich goes on to explain what he might do to target President Trump:

"I'd target his businesses, his dumb fuck of a son, Donald Jr., and Eric...

"Target that. Get people to boycott going to his hotels. Boycott... So a lot of the Trump brands, if you can ruin the Trump brand and you put pressure on his business and you start investigating his business and you start shutting it down, or they're hacking or other things. He cares about his business more than he cares about being President. He would resign. Or he'd lash out and do something incredibly illegal, which he would have to."

When the undercover journalist asks Dudich if he could make sure that the anti-Trump stories make it to the front, he replied, "Oh, we always do."

So much for the objectivity and sanctity of the "free" (corporate) press!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-10/okeefe-takes-aim-nyt-records-
editor-admitting-targeting-trumps-buinesses-his-dumb-fk



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Monday, March 19, 2018 9:11 PM

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Quote:

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I don't know if other people get the little task bar that shows what's loading up when a page comes up. I've noticed because - I dunno. Just curious. One of the links in the list when clicking on web-pages here is google-analytics.com And what IS google analytics you might ask? Here, let them tell you, in their own words ...

https://www.google.com/analytics/#?modal_active=none




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?


Yeah... That's one of the unfortunate things about fff.net. It is possible to easily search everything that has ever been posted here through Google because there are permissions to do so. Some other forums I frequent will not allow any Google searches. This may or may not be based in part off of the location of the forum, globally. I dunno.

Everything will always be presented first and foremost as a "marketing tool". What other things that might ultimately mean beyond that is anyone's guess.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 20, 2018 1:16 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-18/edward-snowden-facebook-surv
eillance-company-rebranded-social-media


Edward Snowden: Facebook Is A Surveillance Company Rebranded As "Social Media"


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-19/facebook-tumbles-over-system
ic-problems-data-breach-drags-nasdaq-lower



Facebook Tumbles Over "Systemic Problems" In Data Breach, Drags Nasdaq Lower




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-18/edward-snowden-facebook-surv
eillance-company-rebranded-social-media


Edward Snowden: Facebook Is A Surveillance Company Rebranded As "Social Media"


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-19/facebook-tumbles-over-system
ic-problems-data-breach-drags-nasdaq-lower



Facebook Tumbles Over "Systemic Problems" In Data Breach, Drags Nasdaq Lower




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?


This video was posted by somebody else, but I know I saw the original video from the Onion about 10 years ago.

...

I know I've posted it here before, several times, and everybody thinks "Oh, it's The Onion. It's just a joke."

Guess not, huh?



....

Strange, that one won't work here. Let's try another one that is missing a bit of the beginning.

....

Nope.... 3rd times the charm?



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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Yeah... That's one of the unfortunate things about fff.net. It is possible to easily search everything that has ever been posted here through Google because there are permissions to do so. Some other forums I frequent will not allow any Google searches. This may or may not be based in part off of the location of the forum, globally. I dunno.

6ix, have you ever tried clicking on your own link? http://fireflyfans.net/mthreaduser.aspx?u=20928

Your alter ego, 6ixStringJoker, has his own link: www.fireflyfans.net/mthreaduser.aspx?u=51570

The CIA doesn't need Google or Facebook to follow the twists and turns of 6ixStringJack and Joker. And what would the CIA find, anyway, about Al-Qaeda's leadership and your secret plans?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Trump planned yesterday to get tough on the opioid epidemic. There’s a scene in “The Death of Stalin” — the latest feature film from British political satirist Armando Iannucci — where prisoners at one of the Soviet Union’s myriad of prison camps are being lined up and killed. A guard walks from person to person, executing them with a gunshot to the head. Suddenly, a Soviet soldier runs up to the executioner and tells him that the killings have suddenly been called off — orders straight from the top.

The prisoner who was next in line to die looks to his left, pondering the bodies he’s been spared from joining by inexplicable good luck. It’s both horrifying and comical, and reveals the utterly arbitrary way in which the Soviet Union moved people into and out of an out-group worthy of murdering. Which reminds me: Trump wants the death penalty for opioid dealers. https://qz.com/1230401

https://theintercept.com/2018/03/17/the-hilarious-terrifying-british-d
eath-of-stalin-shows-how-american-comedys-gone-wrong
/


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Tuesday, March 20, 2018 8:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Yeah... That's one of the unfortunate things about fff.net. It is possible to easily search everything that has ever been posted here through Google because there are permissions to do so. Some other forums I frequent will not allow any Google searches. This may or may not be based in part off of the location of the forum, globally. I dunno.

6ix, have you ever tried clicking on your own link? http://fireflyfans.net/mthreaduser.aspx?u=20928

Your alter ego, 6ixStringJoker, has his own link: www.fireflyfans.net/mthreaduser.aspx?u=51570

The CIA doesn't need Google or Facebook to follow the twists and turns of 6ixStringJack and Joker. And what would the CIA find, anyway, about Al-Qaeda's leadership and your secret plans?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



I know I'm not hiding anything from the CIA when I post here. They know whatever it is they want to know if it's online, anywhere. That goes for everybody.

I've said before that people using VPNs to "hide" their activity are especially stupid. At best, they're just throwing their money away. At worst, they're put on a watch list just for signing up for one with their credit card.

The only anonymity here is that we don't know each other's names... at least until one of us doxes another. Big Brother knows exactly who I am when I post here if they're keeping up with me.

The only reason I mentioned Google is because I know quite a bit about Google searches and it's relatively easy to find specific posts people have made if you remember a few of the keywords they used. Other sites I'm a part of don't "allow Google Bots". That's only a safeguard from the public doing Google searches on the sites. Big Brother can do whatever it wants, whenever it wants.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 20, 2018 8:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump planned yesterday to get tough on the opioid epidemic. There’s a scene in “The Death of Stalin” — the latest feature film from British political satirist Armando Iannucci — where prisoners at one of the Soviet Union’s myriad of prison camps are being lined up and killed. A guard walks from person to person, executing them with a gunshot to the head. Suddenly, a Soviet soldier runs up to the executioner and tells him that the killings have suddenly been called off — orders straight from the top.

The prisoner who was next in line to die looks to his left, pondering the bodies he’s been spared from joining by inexplicable good luck. It’s both horrifying and comical, and reveals the utterly arbitrary way in which the Soviet Union moved people into and out of an out-group worthy of murdering. Which reminds me: Trump wants the death penalty for opioid dealers. https://qz.com/1230401

https://theintercept.com/2018/03/17/the-hilarious-terrifying-british-d
eath-of-stalin-shows-how-american-comedys-gone-wrong
/


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




I'm only on board with it if that goes for Big Pharma and Doctors too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 20, 2018 9:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm only on board with it if that goes for Big Pharma and Doctors too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump said: "That toughness includes the death penalty." Then the crowd cheered.

I must add that I hope Trump has his White House staff draft legislation and the GOP controlled Congress passes it with nearly every Republican voting for and nearly every Democrat voting against. That would make it very clear, even to voters that seldom vote because they dislike both major parties, that the GOP is dissimilar to the Democratic Party. But who knows? I suspect from my experience that most "Independent" voters will never understand the difference between parties until every GOP Congressman votes one way and every Democratic Congressman votes in the opposite direction on every issue, including the death penalty.



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Tuesday, March 20, 2018 1:22 PM

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www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/19/17138948/trump-mueller-firin
g-russia


The process of getting rid of Mueller is much more complicated and legally fraught than, say, firing FBI Director James Comey or Secretary of State Rex Tillerson. Furthermore, dismissing Mueller himself wouldn’t end Mueller’s investigation — an even more controversial intervention would be required for that. Then, even if he pulled it off, Mueller’s firing would likely lead to a flood of leaks. Finally, the ensuing backlash could help Democrats regain control of Congress — which could make Trump’s legal and political situation even worse.

It is certainly possible that Trump could change his mind and decide that, despite all this, Mueller’s probe is so dangerous that it’s worth casting caution to the wind and firing him. But he’s been afraid to take that step so far — and for some very good reasons.

1) Firing Mueller would be much more procedurally complicated and legally challenging than firing Comey or Tillerson

Last week, President Trump fired Secretary of State Rex Tillerson with a tweet. Last May, he fired FBI Director James Comey with a signed letter. Both men served at the president’s pleasure — all the president had to do was say the word, and they were gone.

Things aren’t so simple with Mueller. The special counsel was appointed under a Justice Department regulation that sets restrictions on just how and why he can be fired.

The how, in this case, is by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein (since his boss Jeff Sessions recused himself). Rosenstein appointed Mueller, and according to the regulation, he’s the only person who can fire him.
Then there’s the why, which is also very important here. The regulation states that a special counsel can’t be fired on a whim. Instead, it says, he or she can only be fired for “misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause.”

If Trump truly was hell-bent on dumping Mueller, these problems probably wouldn’t be insurmountable. But the solutions aren’t pretty — they all involve either more firings or some questionable legal claims.

Regarding the why, the regulation does say a special counsel can be fired for “conflict of interest” — which may explain some of Trump’s recent tweets:

Much more at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/19/17138948/trump-mueller-firin
g-russia


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Tuesday, March 20, 2018 2:33 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I suspect from my experience that most "Independent" voters will never understand the difference between parties until every GOP Congressman votes one way and every Democratic Congressman votes in the opposite direction on every issue, including the death penalty.

Why do you assume they don't understand? Maybe they DO understand, but their opinions are scattered between the two parties. DISLIKE free trade agreements LIKE government-paid healthcare DISLIKE global warming LIKE reasonable approach to dealing with Russia ...




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I suspect from my experience that most "Independent" voters will never understand the difference between parties until every GOP Congressman votes one way and every Democratic Congressman votes in the opposite direction on every issue, including the death penalty.

Why do you assume they don't understand? Maybe they DO understand, but their opinions are scattered between the two parties. DISLIKE free trade agreements LIKE government-paid healthcare DISLIKE global warming LIKE reasonable approach to dealing with Russia ...

There is an article showing the scattered opinions. The Democrats overlap some of the Independents who overlap some of the Republican opinions, but you see the differences in the parties: www.vox.com/2018/3/20/17134328/mcconnell-popularity-nurses-poll-bartel
s-chart-republicans-democrats


There are even more points plotted in blue and red for D and R starting on page 44 of www.vanderbilt.edu/csdi/includes/Workingpaper2_2108.pdf

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Lt. Col. Ralph Peters is a warmonger’s warmonger. As such, he fits in perfectly as a commentator on Fox News. But he’s finally decided he’s had enough and has decided to leave the network. Here’s his email explaining his resignation: www.buzzfeed.com/tomnamako/ralph-peters

Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association. Now I am ashamed. In my view, Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration. When prime-time hosts—who have never served our country in any capacity—dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults on the FBI, the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller—all the while scaremongering with lurid warnings of “deep-state” machinations—I cannot be part of the same organization, even at a remove. To me, Fox News is now wittingly harming our system of government for profit.

As a Russia analyst for many years, it also has appalled me that hosts who made their reputations as super-patriots and who, justifiably, savaged President Obama for his duplicitous folly with Putin, now advance Putin’s agenda by making light of Russian penetration of our elections and the Trump campaign. Despite increasingly pathetic denials, it turns out that the “nothing-burger” has been covered with Russian dressing all along. And by the way: As an intelligence professional, I can tell you that the Steele dossier rings true—that’s how the Russians do things. The result is that we have an American president who is terrified of his counterpart in Moscow.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2018 12:05 PM

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Quote:

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Lt. Col. Ralph Peters is a warmonger’s warmonger. As such, he fits in perfectly as a commentator on Fox News. But he’s finally decided he’s had enough and has decided to leave the network. Here’s his email explaining his resignation: www.buzzfeed.com/tomnamako/ralph-peters

Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association. Now I am ashamed. In my view, Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration. When prime-time hosts—who have never served our country in any capacity—dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults on the FBI, the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller—all the while scaremongering with lurid warnings of “deep-state” machinations—I cannot be part of the same organization, even at a remove. To me, Fox News is now wittingly harming our system of government for profit.

As a Russia analyst for many years, it also has appalled me that hosts who made their reputations as super-patriots and who, justifiably, savaged President Obama for his duplicitous folly with Putin, now advance Putin’s agenda by making light of Russian penetration of our elections and the Trump campaign. Despite increasingly pathetic denials, it turns out that the “nothing-burger” has been covered with Russian dressing all along. And by the way: As an intelligence professional, I can tell you that the Steele dossier rings true—that’s how the Russians do things. The result is that we have an American president who is terrified of his counterpart in Moscow.

He is not the only one who has left due to, or pointed out the lesser character of, the change of Fox following the takeover by the Libtard Murdoch sons.

How could it possibly be that you failed to include the portions where he specifically excluded the NEWS department and ANALYSIS department from his displeasure?

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Facebook is enmeshed in another controversy, this time over accusations that the firm Cambridge Analytica abused Facebook data to help Donald Trump win the 2016 US presidential election. But this is a big deal fundamentally because of a larger and more fundamental problem: Facebook is bad.

Lots of companies, to be clear, are built around products that are bad. Indeed, being bad is by no means an impediment to success in a capitalist economy. Cigarette companies, for years, made enormous profits off selling a highly addictive highly carcinogenic substance to millions of Americans. Even in their current somewhat fallen state, tobacco companies continue to be viable ongoing enterprises.

Alcoholic beverages are enjoyed in moderation by many, but the real profit in the industry lies with the minority of serious alcohol abusers who account for the lion’s share of consumption — often with deadly consequences. Casino gambling features a similar, albeit less directly deadly, addiction-based business model.

None of which necessarily implies any specific public policy approach — legal prohibition of alcohol rather famously caused a lot of problems. But I do think it’s true that executives of companies that make money by hurting their customers should feel kind of bad about themselves. Or at least not good.

And therein lies the problem for Facebook. Not only is the product bad, but the company is in a deep state of denial about it. Mark Zuckerberg and other top leaders believe they are making the world a better place. The labor market for the kind of talented engineers that Facebook needs to hire is robust enough that you can’t compete on the basis of money alone — they need to believe that Facebook is a decent, honorable place to work. But in fact, Facebook is bad. And it probably can’t be fixed.

The good news is that the executives have already made a lot of money and the workers have valuable, in-demand job skills. You could shut the whole thing down tomorrow and everyone would be fine.

Move fast and break human society

The sophisticates’ defense of Facebook is to question whether having half the country marinate in a cesspool of misinformation for an hour or two a day really swung any votes. It certainly doesn’t help. But if you look at a society where Facebook plays a larger role in the information ecology, like Myanmar, you see a disaster emerging where United Nations human rights investigators say Facebook has been a clear dissemination channel for hate speech and propaganda that are driving an ethnic cleansing campaign that’s displaced more than 600,000 Rohingya people to Bangladesh and killed thousands.

More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/21/17144748/case-against-facebo
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Wednesday, March 21, 2018 12:17 PM

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I always considered Facebook on similar turf as Micro$haft.
Just further proof. To be forgotten soon, if not already.

Go buy more Windows, and post on fb.

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Wednesday, March 21, 2018 12:22 PM

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I've heard people tell me they're done with Facebook.

I just laugh when I hear it.

"You can check out any time you'd like. But you can never leave"....

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 21, 2018 5:14 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I've never been on social media, not even professional social media like LinkedIn. I have no interest in over-sharing the minutia of my life, and an actual antipathy to viewing other people's over-sharing. I've been extremely suspicious of social media's hidden objectives, like I have been of Microsoft (and what an unfortunate phallic reference), and telecoms in general as well. And if I could completely divorce myself from Google and Amazon, I'd do that too. I also have a stupid phone, as my small gesture of resistance to the surveillance state. Unfortunately, to be truly free of snooping, you either have to be a complete Luddite (hello Amish country!), or a tech-genius ahead of the NSA. And, sadly, I'm neither.

In some way, large or small, everyone with a cell phone or inet connection participates in the cesspool.

ETA - and what a brilliant technical achievement is the inet! It had the capability to transform human society. But alas, human society is made of humans. And humans, once programmed by their early family and society, are loathe to change. Even more, vested human structures will not willingly give up power. The inet was born as a beautiful, transformative brilliance. And just look at it today.




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Wednesday, March 21, 2018 5:50 PM

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I've never been on social media, not even professional social media like LinkedIn. I have no interest in over-sharing the minutia of my life, and an actual antipathy to viewing other people's over-sharing. I've been extremely suspicious of social media's hidden objectives, like I have been of Microsoft (and what an unfortunate phallic reference), and telecoms in general as well. And if I could completely divorce myself from Google and Amazon, I'd do that too. I also have a stupid phone, as my small gesture of resistance to the surveillance state. Unfortunately, to be truly free of snooping, you either have to be a complete Luddite (hello Amish country!), or a tech-genius ahead of the NSA. And, sadly, I'm neither.

In some way, large or small, everyone with a cell phone or inet connection participates in the cesspool.

ETA - and what a brilliant technical achievement is the inet! It had the capability to transform human society. But alas, human society is made of humans. And humans, once programmed by their early family and society, are loathe to change. Even more, vested human structures will not willingly give up power. The inet was born as a beautiful, transformative brilliance. And just look at it today.

So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

A stupid phone was not available the last time I hot a new number.
I avoid google and amazon. What do you use them for? What do you require of them?


Oh, you added to it. What does ETA mean?
I'm thinking that inet is your slang for algore's invention of the Internet. I do not consider Internet to be similar to Micro$haft or Facebook in any way. Internet was not designed to fail. Internet had great potential, and still does. It's misappropriation to take pictures and spellcheck do not redefine it's fundamental design.

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Microsoft (and what an unfortunate phallic reference)



Holy shit. lol

How did I never think of that, and how is it 2018 and this is the first time I've ever heard anybody else think of it?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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