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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Trump also felt the need to call Obama a dumb nigger that would have flunked out of school if Obama had been white...



Yeah... Gonna need a legitimate source cited for this one.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:24 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Trump also felt the need to call Obama a dumb nigger that would have flunked out of school if Obama had been white...



Yeah... Gonna need a legitimate source cited for this one.




lol - irony

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump also felt the need to call Obama a dumb nigger that would have flunked out of school if Obama had been white...



Yeah... Gonna need a legitimate source cited for this one.

https://theweek.com/articles/653840/donald-trumps-30year-crusade-again
st-central-park-five


6ix, once in a while concentrate on what is important. For example, Why are you poorly paid? Because of the GOP:

These days, when people talk about the robot apocalypse, they don’t usually think of things like strip mining and mountaintop removal. Yet these technologies utterly transformed coal mining: Coal production almost doubled between 1950 and 2000 (it only began falling a few years ago), yet the number of coal miners fell from 470,000 to fewer than 80,000.

Or consider freight containerization. Longshoremen used to be a big part of the scene in major port cities. But while global trade has soared since the 1970s, the share of U.S. workers engaged in “marine cargo handling” has fallen by two-thirds.

Technological disruption, then, isn’t a new phenomenon. Still, is it accelerating? Not according to the data. If robots really were replacing workers en masse, we’d expect to see the amount of stuff produced by each remaining worker — labor productivity — soaring. In fact, productivity grew a lot faster from the mid-1990s to the mid-2000s than it has since.

So technological change is an old story. What’s new is the failure of workers to share in the fruits of that technological change.

I’m not saying that coping with change was ever easy. The decline of coal employment had devastating effects on many families, and much of what used to be coal country has never recovered. The loss of manual jobs in port cities surely contributed to the urban social crisis of the ’70s and ’80s.

But while there have always been some victims of technological progress, until the 1970s rising productivity translated into rising wages for a great majority of workers. Then the connection was broken. And it wasn’t the robots that did it.

What did? There is a growing though incomplete consensus among economists that a key factor in wage stagnation has been workers’ declining bargaining power — a decline whose roots are ultimately political.

Most obviously, the federal minimum wage, adjusted for inflation, has fallen by a third over the past half century, even as worker productivity has risen 150 percent. That divergence was politics, pure and simple.

The decline of unions, which covered a quarter of private-sector workers in 1973 but only 6 percent now, may not be as obviously political. But other countries haven’t seen the same kind of decline. Canada is as unionized now as the U.S. was in 1973; in the Nordic nations unions cover two-thirds of the work force. What made America exceptional was a political environment deeply hostile to labor organizing and friendly toward union-busting employers.

And the decline of unions has made a huge difference. Consider the case of trucking, which used to be a good job but now pays a third less than it did in the 1970s, with terrible working conditions. What made the difference? De-unionization was a big part of the story.

And these easily quantifiable factors are just indicators of a sustained, across-the-board anti-worker bias in our politics.

More at www.nytimes.com/2019/03/14/opinion/robots-jobs.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 15, 2019 9:32 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Trump also felt the need to call Obama a dumb nigger that would have flunked out of school if Obama had been white...



Yeah... Gonna need a legitimate source cited for this one.




lol - irony



Says the guy who can't help himself from constantly lobbing personal attacks and doesn't back up a single word of his with any legitimate links to anything and regularly bails out of threads when he gets his ass handed to him.

You're a real character.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 15, 2019 10:09 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump also felt the need to call Obama a dumb nigger that would have flunked out of school if Obama had been white...



Yeah... Gonna need a legitimate source cited for this one.




lol - irony



Says the guy who can't help himself from constantly lobbing personal attacks and doesn't back up a single word of his with any legitimate links to anything and regularly bails out of threads when he gets his ass handed to him.

You're a real character.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

But did you go to the link?
https://theweek.com/articles/653840/donald-trumps-30year-crusade-again
st-central-park-five


Or to this link where Trump was saying nigger-nigger-nigger since he was a baby-baby-baby? www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trumps-long-history-of
-racism-201446
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 15, 2019 12:24 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Says the guy who can't help himself from constantly lobbing personal attacks and doesn't back up a single word of his with any legitimate links to anything and regularly bails out of threads when he gets his ass handed to him.




cites? lol

You can make up any sh*t you want 6, you can even be superman for a day if you want to believe it.

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Friday, March 15, 2019 3:14 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


The Consumer Finance Protection Bureau (CFPB) was set up after the Great Recession to protect consumer finances. Republicans hated it from the start, and you can hardly blame them. After all, there are two sides to everything, and if you’re protecting consumer finances you must be protecting them from something. And that something is big banks and other financial corporations. Republicans don’t like it when their CEO pals are told that they have to either treat their customers fairly or else risk big fines.

Still, there was nothing Republicans could do about it once the CFPB was set up. Its funding comes from the Fed and its director is independent of Congress. But then Donald Trump was elected president. He couldn’t dismantle the CFPB or cut its funding, but he could install a new director who would simply decide not to open new cases. So that’s what he did.

More at https://consumerfed.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CFPB-Enforcement-in
-Decline.pdf


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 15, 2019 6:13 PM

THG


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Says the guy who can't help himself from constantly lobbing personal attacks and doesn't back up a single word of his with any legitimate links to anything and regularly bails out of threads when he gets his ass handed to him.




cites? lol

You can make up any sh*t you want 6, you can even be superman for a day if you want to believe it.



Brilliantly put G.

T



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Friday, March 15, 2019 8:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Says the guy who can't help himself from constantly lobbing personal attacks and doesn't back up a single word of his with any legitimate links to anything and regularly bails out of threads when he gets his ass handed to him.




cites? lol

You can make up any sh*t you want 6, you can even be superman for a day if you want to believe it.



Brilliantly put G.

T





lol... Your standards are comically low, when you hear what you want to hear.

What absolutely isn't brilliant, and needs no citations at all, is your atrocious grammar.

You are aware of commas... Aren't you?


I've just never seen you use one.





BTW... Captain. Your citation is right here: http://fireflyfans.net/mboard.aspx?bid=18

It's called the RWED in fff.net. You'll find dozens of examples.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 17, 2019 12:21 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


“It looks very much as if we are heading into an arms race where the current ban on full lethal autonomy” — a US military policy that mandates some level of human interaction when actually making the decision to fire — “will be dropped as soon as it’s politically convenient to do so,” said Stuart Russell, a professor of computer science at UC Berkeley and AI expert.

When is a killer robot tank not a killer robot tank? When the Army says it’s not. More at https://qz.com/1571597/

It seems foolhardy, but why would Republicans get the idea stuck in their heads to build killer robot tanks? Because it is an ancient ideal: "When robot assassins hunted down their own makers in an ancient Indian legend"
More at https://qz.com/india/1574936/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 20, 2019 7:59 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


"No Joe! Joe Biden's disastrous legislative legacy" — Joe liked to reach across the aisle to Strom Thurmond, among others, and tie his name to other horrible GOP ideas. "Despite pleas from the NAACP and the ACLU, the 1990s brought no relief from Biden's crime crusade. He vied with the first Bush Administration to introduce ever more draconian laws, including one proposing to expand the number of offenses for which the death penalty would be permitted to fifty-one. Bill Clinton quickly became a reliable ally upon his 1992 election, and Biden encouraged him to 'maintain crime as a Democratic initiative' with suitably tough legislation. The ensuing 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, passed with enthusiastic administration pressure, would consign millions of black Americans to a life behind bars."
More at https://harpers.org/archive/2019/03/joe-biden-record/

Michael Brooks started his show with clips of Joe Biden making a series of claims about criminals that were not true but sure helped him get that horrible crime bill passed.
Biden starts a 2 minutes:



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 20, 2019 8:00 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Barack Obama rolls into office with Mitt Romney’s health care policy, with John McCain’s climate policy, with Bill Clinton’s tax policy, and George H.W. Bush’s foreign policy. He’s all these things not because the technocrats in his administration think they’re the best possible policies, but because [White House adviser] David Axelrod and company say they poll well.

And [Chief of Staff] Rahm Emanuel and company say we’ve got to build bridges to the Republicans. We’ve got to let Republicans amend cap and trade up the wazoo, we’ve got to let Republicans amend the [Affordable Care Act] up the wazoo before it comes up to a final vote, we’ve got to tread very lightly with finance on Dodd-Frank, we have to do a very premature pivot away from recession recovery to “entitlement reform.”

All of these with the idea that you would then collect a broad political coalition behind what is, indeed, Mitt Romney’s health care policy and John McCain’s climate policy and George H.W. Bush’s foreign policy.

And did George H.W. Bush, did Mitt Romney, did John McCain say a single good word about anything Barack Obama ever did over the course of eight solid years?

No, they did not.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/4/18246381/democrats-clinton-sa
nders-left-brad-delong


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, March 20, 2019 10:49 AM

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If you’re a conservative who wants the Trump agenda to succeed, you want to see the administration win court cases. Except they’re losing, not because nefarious liberals in black robes are being unfair, but because too often Team Trump doesn’t know what it’s doing.

The Post focused particular attention on the relatively obscure Administrative Procedure Act, approved in 1946 to limit the reach of various federal agencies.

The Trump administration has won about 6% of these cases. Other administrations have won APA cases about 70% of the time.

The Post explained why Donald Trump’s team has struggled so badly:

Federal judges have ruled against the Trump administration at least 63 times over the past two years, an extraordinary record of legal defeat that has stymied large parts of the president’s agenda on the environment, immigration and other matters.

In case after case, judges have rebuked Trump officials for failing to follow the most basic rules of governance, including providing legitimate explanations for shifts in policy, supported by facts and, where required, public input. […]

[T]he rulings so far paint a remarkable portrait of a government rushing to implement sweeping changes in policy without regard for longstanding rules against arbitrary and capricious behavior.

Georgetown Law School’s William Buzbee told the newspaper that in regulatory cases, Trump administration officials are “making it very easy for the courts to reject them because they’re not doing their homework.”

Seth Jaffe, a lawyer who represents corporations, said the administration has failed to deliver. Some errors are so basic that Jaffe said he has to wonder whether agency officials are more interested in announcing policy shifts than in actually implementing them. “It’s not just that they’re losing. But they’re being so nuts about it,” he said, adding that the losses in court have “set regulatory reform back for a period of time.”

More at www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/the-real-reason-preside
nt-trump-is-constantly-losing-in-court/2019/03/19/f5ffb056-33a8-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, March 21, 2019 12:01 PM

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"There is no higher priority for national defense,” the Pentagon declared last year, than for the United States to “replace its strategic nuclear triad and sustain the warheads it carries.” In plain English, this means spending an estimated $1.7 trillion to rebuild every component of the US nuclear arsenal: the entire three-legged strategic “triad” of intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs), and long-range bombers. Military officials claim the existing force has become obsolete and inflexible, and thus unable to deter potential adversaries. In order to eliminate any doubt that America has the will and the capacity to wreak catastrophic retribution, they argue, we need to replace our current atomic weapons with even more terrifying ones. “To remain effective [as a deterrent force],” explained then–Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis in February 2018, “we must recapitalize our Cold War legacy nuclear forces.”

“Recapitalize,” “modernize,” “replace”: These are the anodyne terms being used by the Pentagon and the Trump administration to describe their exorbitant plans to overhaul America’s nuclear arsenal. With great-power conflict now the defining theme in US military strategy, the administration seeks weapons that can overawe Russia and China. At the same time, White House officials—led by National Security Adviser John Bolton—seek to extinguish any remaining arms-control agreements that might constrain US arms-acquisition efforts. Bolton has already orchestrated the US withdrawal from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, which covers short- and medium-range missiles, and has reportedly set his sights on scuttling the last remaining curb on intercontinental weapons, the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (New START), when it comes up for renewal in 2021.

Refurbishing the nuclear arsenal and exiting arms-control agreements are all part of a White House effort to restore the coercive power of the US stockpile. In 2009, President Barack Obama proclaimed his intent to “reduce the role of nuclear weapons in our national security strategy,” and the following year he signed the New START agreement with Russia, resulting in a 50 percent reduction in the number of deployed US warheads.

While bringing relief to those of us who feared the devastating consequences of nuclear war, the move provoked dismay among hawkish Republicans and military leaders who view nuclear arms as the ultimate tool of national power.

More at www.thenation.com/article/us-nuclear-arsenal-triad/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, March 22, 2019 7:09 AM

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An expert explains why the US struggles with modern wars.
www.vox.com/2018/2/15/17007678/syria-trump-war-win-interview

Dominic Tierney: At the heart of the Obama doctrine was “no more Iraq War.” And yet he basically made the same mistake in Libya, where there was very little planning for what would occur after Muammar Qaddafi was overthrown in 2011. In fact, Obama went on the record saying that the Libya intervention was his worst mistake a president.

We don’t learn very well from history. Presidents convince themselves that the next time will be different. The lesson Obama took from Iraq was not to allow any US ground forces to get involved in nation-building. Since Obama was willing to support regime change, the end result was going to be the overthrow of Qaddafi with no real plan to stabilize Libya. If a thoughtful president like Obama — who was very cognizant of the errors of Iraq — can do that, it suggests that any president would be capable of doing that.

Alex Ward: It seems like one of the problems is that we’re involving ourselves in these wars with little preparation. How do we solve that?

Dominic Tierney: We need better language training, cultural training, more resources for special forces — and that would mean less money spent on nuclear attack submarines, for example.

Alex Ward: But then there’s another problem: Sometimes groups like ISIS arise, and US leaders and many Americans want the military to take them out. So when the president is faced with the option to target a group like ISIS with airpower, some would argue that it’s better, politically, to do that.

Dominic Tierney: The US doesn’t think several moves ahead. The US military is good at taking out bad guys. But the removal of the bad guy creates a power vacuum, and that power vacuum is filled by somebody else.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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