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Monday, July 27, 2020 10:31 AM

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ICE agreed to a Netflix documentary for propaganda but they recorded so many examples of illegal tactics, lying, terrorizing, and mocking that ICE is demanding it not be aired next month.

A Rare Look Inside Trump’s Immigration Crackdown Draws Legal Threats
A new documentary peers inside the secretive world of immigration enforcement. The filmmakers faced demands to delete scenes and delay broadcast until after the election.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/trump-immigration-nation-netflix
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Monday, July 27, 2020 11:06 AM

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Section of Donald Trump's 'indestructible' border wall COLLAPSES as Tropical Storm Hanna lashes south Texas
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8562843/Moment-Trumps-indestr
uctible-border-wall-collapses-Tropical-Storm-Hanna-lashes-south-Texas.html


The video posted to Twitter on Sunday shows construction workers standing by and watching as fierce gusts knock the steel structure to the ground. The clip became the target of ridicule on social media as critics likened the collapse to President Trump's re-election campaign.

So much for that wall...

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Monday, July 27, 2020 12:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Leave a job to the Unions and you get Union quality work.


Then again, the Legacy Media was showing children caged up a few years ago claiming that it was Trump doing it when the photos were actually taken from a story that happened during the Obama administration.

The media probably shouldn't be "Covington Kidding" this story until they know what actually happened. It's quite clear from the article they don't, and they don't even know where it happened.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 27, 2020 12:41 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
ICE agreed to a Netflix documentary for propaganda but they recorded so many examples of illegal tactics, lying, terrorizing, and mocking that ICE is demanding it not be aired next month.

A Rare Look Inside Trump’s Immigration Crackdown Draws Legal Threats
A new documentary peers inside the secretive world of immigration enforcement. The filmmakers faced demands to delete scenes and delay broadcast until after the election.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/trump-immigration-nation-netflix
.html




Agreed, I'd add, Jacob Soboroff is the guy to follow regarding this topic.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 12:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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We wouldn't even need a wall if we just cut off any and all forms of financial aid and the ability for anybody without a social security number to make money here.

Wouldn't need ICE either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 28, 2020 6:23 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We wouldn't even need a wall if we just cut off any and all forms of financial aid and the ability for anybody without a social security number to make money here.

Wouldn't need ICE either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, stop thinking that your social security number means you deserve special treatment. I can cut more than you with no consequences to me, but it would be terrible for the unemployed, poor white trash, prisoners, the homeless, the mentally ill, etc. Too bad, so sad, for them, but great for me since my taxes would be lower:

The Cult of Selfishness Is Killing America

The right has made irresponsible behavior a key principle.

America’s response to the coronavirus has been a lose-lose proposition.

The Trump administration and governors like Florida’s Ron DeSantis insisted that there was no trade-off between economic growth and controlling the disease, and they were right — but not in the way they expected.

Premature reopening led to a surge in infections: Adjusted for population, Americans are currently dying from Covid-19 at around 15 times the rate in the European Union or Canada. Yet the “rocket ship” recovery Donald Trump promised has crashed and burned: Job growth appears to have stalled or reversed, especially in states that were most aggressive about lifting social distancing mandates, and early indications are that the U.S. economy is lagging behind the economies of major European nations.

So we’re failing dismally on both the epidemiological and the economic fronts. But why?

On the face of it, the answer is that Trump and allies were so eager to see big jobs numbers that they ignored both infection risks and the way a resurgent pandemic would undermine the economy. As I and others have said, they failed the marshmallow test, sacrificing the future because they weren’t willing to show a little patience.

And there’s surely a lot to that explanation. But it isn’t the whole story.

For one thing, people truly focused on restarting the economy should have been big supporters of measures to limit infections without hurting business — above all, getting Americans to wear face masks. Instead, Trump ridiculed those in masks as “politically correct,” while Republican governors not only refused to mandate mask-wearing, but they prevented mayors from imposing local mask rules.

Also, politicians eager to see the economy bounce back should have wanted to sustain consumer purchasing power until wages recovered. Instead, Senate Republicans ignored the looming July 31 expiration of special unemployment benefits, which means that tens of millions of workers are about to see a huge hit to their incomes, damaging the economy as a whole.

So what was going on? Were our leaders just stupid? Well, maybe. But there’s a deeper explanation of the profoundly self-destructive behavior of Trump and his allies: They were all members of America’s cult of selfishness.

You see, the modern U.S. right is committed to the proposition that greed is good, that we’re all better off when individuals engage in the untrammeled pursuit of self-interest. In their vision, unrestricted profit maximization by businesses and unregulated consumer choice is the recipe for a good society.

Support for this proposition is, if anything, more emotional than intellectual. I’ve long been struck by the intensity of right-wing anger against relatively trivial regulations, like bans on phosphates in detergent and efficiency standards for light bulbs. It’s the principle of the thing: Many on the right are enraged at any suggestion that their actions should take other people’s welfare into account.

This rage is sometimes portrayed as love of freedom. But people who insist on the right to pollute are notably unbothered by, say, federal agents tear-gassing peaceful protesters. What they call “freedom” is actually absence of responsibility.

Rational policy in a pandemic, however, is all about taking responsibility. The main reason you shouldn’t go to a bar and should wear a mask isn’t self-protection, although that’s part of it; the point is that congregating in noisy, crowded spaces or exhaling droplets into shared air puts others at risk. And that’s the kind of thing America’s right just hates, hates to hear.

Indeed, it sometimes seems as if right-wingers actually make a point of behaving irresponsibly. Remember how Senator Rand Paul, who was worried that he might have Covid-19 (he did), wandered around the Senate and even used the gym while waiting for his test results?

Anger at any suggestion of social responsibility also helps explain the looming fiscal catastrophe. It’s striking how emotional many Republicans get in their opposition to the temporary rise in unemployment benefits; for example, Senator Lindsey Graham declared that these benefits would be extended “over our dead bodies.” Why such hatred?

It’s not because the benefits are making workers unwilling to take jobs. There’s no evidence that this is happening — it’s just something Republicans want to believe. And in any case, economic arguments can’t explain the rage.

Again, it’s the principle. Aiding the unemployed, even if their joblessness isn’t their own fault, is a tacit admission that lucky Americans should help their less-fortunate fellow citizens. And that’s an admission the right doesn’t want to make.

Just to be clear, I’m not saying that Republicans are selfish. We’d be doing much better if that were all there were to it. The point, instead, is that they’ve sacralized selfishness, hurting their own political prospects by insisting on the right to act selfishly even when it hurts others.

What the coronavirus has revealed is the power of America’s cult of selfishness. And this cult is killing us.

www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/opinion/us-republicans-coronavirus.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, July 29, 2020 7:31 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


A small federal agency focused on preventing industrial disasters is on life support because Trump wants it gone.

The Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board is without enough voting members, and its investigations are stuck in limbo.

It was late in the second shift when workers at a silicone factory in Illinois noticed something had gone wrong. A tank of silicon hydride, used to make water repellent, started foaming and hissing. An operator mixing the chemicals in the tank yelled in frustration. Two of his coworkers came running. A pale yellow haze filled the air. It was hot. None of this was normal.

A supervisor quickly ordered one worker to turn on the exhaust fans and another to open the building’s garage doors, but neither got the chance. Within seconds, the 30,000-square-foot building exploded, rattling homes and businesses within 20 miles of the Waukegan, Illinois, factory. Rescue crews had to sift through the rubble for four days to find each of the bodies.

Four workers died the night of May 3, 2019, at AB Specialty Silicones, including the chemical operator and his boss. Yet the public may never find out what went wrong, and other chemical companies may never learn how to prevent a similar blast. That’s because the small, independent federal agency that investigates chemical disasters is on life support, and the Trump administration wants it to disappear altogether.

That agency, the Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board, investigates accidents and makes recommendations — but it doesn’t regulate the industry. Since 1998, it has looked into some of the nation’s biggest industrial disasters, including the 2010 Deepwater Horizon blowout, which killed 11 workers and dumped an estimated 4 million barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico; and the 2005 explosion at the BP refinery in Texas City, Texas, that killed 15 workers and injured 180. The board’s work has led to changes in industry practices from Texas to Kansas and laws in states from Mississippi to Connecticut.

It’s likely, however, that when the investigation into the AB Specialty Silicones explosion wraps up, the board will not be able to meet the quorum needed to vet and approve investigators’ findings and recommendations. Since May 2, it has been operating with only one voting member out of a possible five — one vote short of a quorum. It’s been effectively disabled.

The White House hasn’t announced plans to fill the board’s four vacant seats. In fact, President Donald Trump has been trying to do the opposite, pushing to eliminate the board in each of his annual budget proposals — though he hasn’t persuaded Congress to defund it.

More at www.vox.com/2020/7/28/21336481/chemical-safety-hazard-investigation-bo
ard




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:14 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


If only Biden were the bearer of that button.

But he's not.

And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:17 AM

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This comes as no surprise. 6ix would even agree.

Alt-Right’ Watches Most Porn But Has Least Sex, New Survey Finds
https://avn.com/business/articles/legal/alt-right-watches-most-porn-bu
t-has-least-sex-new-survey-finds-884526.html


Members of the political faction known as the “alt-right,” the extreme right wing of the ideological spectrum, are more likely to watch porn than any people who subscribe to other points of view. But at the same time, alt-right individuals are less likely to actually have sex with another person. Those are just a couple of the findings in an extensive survey of sex and politics conducted by the tube site xHamster, released this week.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
If only Biden were the bearer of that button.

But he's not.

And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

The establishment Dems, like the Republicans, are loyal only to their lobbyists.

Dumping Trump is only step 1. Joe defeating him is not an instant escape from fascism. Joe's fine with fascism, as his record plainly shows.

I'm afraid that when Trump is gone, people will assume that our slow march into total fascism has somehow been stopped. They will be wrong.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:39 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
If only Biden were the bearer of that button.

But he's not.

And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?

You are aware that the GOP will demonize Biden if he raises taxes, while Democrats are for raising taxes, right? Without the GOP Senators, taxes can't be raised. But to quote you: And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better? It is clear you don't understand that the GOP prevents Democrats from enacting policy into law.

Joe Biden Tells His Donors He Plans to Jack Up Their Taxes
https://slate.com/business/2020/06/biden-taxes-jack-em-up.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:27 AM

THG




T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:28 AM

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Senate GOP won’t extend pandemic food stamps but doubles ‘three-martini lunch’ deduction
The pandemic has left millions of Americans hungry, but the relief bill offers no new assistance
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/28/senate-gop-wont-ext
end-pandemic-food-stamps-doubles-three-martini-lunch-deduction/?utm_source=reddit.com


How does any thinking person vote for these idiots?

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Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:35 AM

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Hell, yeah! Sign me up!

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Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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That actually sounds like a great idea.

One way tickets only, please.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 29, 2020 1:11 PM

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Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:55 AM

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Trump’s New Favorite COVID Doctor Believes in Alien DNA, Demon Sperm, and Hydroxychloroquine
https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-
believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine



Maybe she's on to something?




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Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:05 AM

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Thursday, July 30, 2020 4:38 PM

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Correct.



Also correct.

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Friday, July 31, 2020 7:57 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


In one of the most jolting moments in modern political history, former President Barack Obama reclaimed his political pulpit with a stark warning that his successor is a grave and imminent threat to American democracy and racial justice. Then, even more remarkably, President Donald Trump went on television and proved him right, putting a foreboding shadow over an election that he is already seeking to cast as illegitimate in the eyes of millions of Americans.

Obama's speech for Lewis was urgent and in the tones of an activist, not a healer or the optimist who once declared there is "not a Black America" nor a "White America."

It brought into the open a clash between the nation's first Black president and the one who has made his name with a racist "birther" campaign against Obama and who is running for reelection wrapped in the Confederate flag and defending monuments to Civil War generals who fought to preserve slavery.

More at www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-election-dem
ocracy/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, July 31, 2020 8:01 AM

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In a speech that was almost surprising in its frank invocation of politics, Obama compared the brutal 1965 violence that nearly ended Lewis’ life to the violent suppression of peaceful protests by federal officers today, called the Supreme Court’s 2013 decision to gut the Voting Rights Act and the wave of voter suppression that followed “an attack on what John fought for,” challenged hypocritical congressional leaders who have opposed a renewal of “the law that Lewis was wiling to die for” while issuing empty statements calling him a “hero.”

Obama turned to a powerful and direct political attack on present-day police brutality against Black people and voter and protest suppression efforts.

“Bull Connor” — the infamous Birmingham, Alabama, police commissioner who turned dogs and fire hoses on civil rights–era protesters — “may be gone, but today we witness, with our own eyes, police officers kneeling on the necks of Black Americans,” Obama said, alluding to the murder of George Floyd. “George Wallace may be gone, but we can witness our federal government sending agents to use tear gas and batons against peaceful demonstrators,” he added, alluding to the Trump administration–ordered assaults on protesters at Lafayette Square in D.C., and in Portland, Oregon.

Obama concluded by proposing that America honor the late congressman by enacting a new John Lewis Voting Rights Act and other measures to protect the vote, and by ending the “Jim Crow relic” of the filibuster if necessary to pass it.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/07/barack-obama-eulogy-for-jo
hn-lewis-was-perfect.html



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, July 31, 2020 8:04 AM

THG


I agree with both of these last two posts second.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Saturday, August 1, 2020 8:39 AM

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White House senior adviser Stephen Miller scolded former President Barack Obama on Friday for his “shockingly political” remarks on voter suppression at the funeral service for Rep. John Lewis, an icon of the civil rights movement.

In an interview on “Fox & Friends,” the policy aide to President Donald Trump accused his boss’ predecessor of spreading lies about efforts by elected officials to stifle voter participation and minority engagement ahead of November’s election.

“That was shockingly political for a funeral service, but it’s also totally disconnected from reality,” Miller said. “It is scandalously, outrageously false.”

Obama: “Even as we sit here, there are those in power who are doing their darnedest to discourage people from voting — by closing polling locations, and targeting minorities and students with restrictive ID laws, and attacking our voting rights with surgical precision, even undermining the Postal Service in the run-up to an election that’s going to be dependent on mail-in ballots so people don’t get sick,” he said, alluding to voting laws championed largely by Republicans.

Miller, perhaps best known for his support of hard-line immigration policies, defended voter ID laws but otherwise offered little in the way of evidence to rebut Obama’s claims.

Obama: “I know this is a celebration of John’s life. There are some who might say we shouldn’t dwell on such things. But that’s why I’m talking about it. John Lewis devoted his time on this Earth fighting the very attacks on democracy and what’s best in America that we are seeing circulate right now,” he said.

www.politico.com/news/2020/07/31/stephen-miller-obamas-comments-at-lew
is-funeral-totally-disconnected-from-reality-389386


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, August 1, 2020 9:59 AM

THG


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


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Sunday, August 2, 2020 7:35 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


The Spectre of Socialism Haunts Mike Pence

Vice President Mike Pence made another campaign swing through the battleground state of Wisconsin in July, hoping to reconnect with the better angels of Republicanism. Pence traveled to the college town of Ripon, where the party was founded in 1854.

There, with his now-familiar aplomb, the vice president offered a false narrative that was at odds with not just contemporary reality but American history.

“The American people have a choice to make. And the choice has never been clearer and the stakes have never been higher,” announced the vice president in what was billed as a major address on July 17. “I came here to the city of Ripon, Wisconsin, where the Republican Party was born, to describe that choice.”

Pence declared, “Our economic recovery is on the ballot, but also are things far more fundamental and foundational to our country.” Unfortunately for Pence, he got tripped up by ignorance of his own party’s history.

“Like those first Republicans,” he chirped, “we stand at a crossroads of freedom. Before us are two paths: one based on the dignity of every individual, and the other on the growing control of the state. Our road leads to greater freedom and opportunity. Their road leads to socialism and decline.”

It was an epic rewrite of history that the vice president attempted when he suggested that he and Trump are “like those first Republicans.” The first Republicans were radicals, who sought to upend the politics of the country at a time when the existing parties were capitulating to the demands of Southern slaveholders and their political patrons.

More about the first Republicans at
https://web.archive.org/web/20200802051243/https://www.thenation.com/a
rticle/politics/mike-pence-wisconsin-socialism
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, August 2, 2020 12:24 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It was an epic rewrite of history that the vice president attempted when he suggested that he and Trump are “like those first Republicans.” The first Republicans were radicals, who sought to upend the politics of the country at a time when the existing parties were capitulating to the demands of Southern slaveholders and their political patrons.

More about the first Republicans at
https://web.archive.org/web/20200802051243/https://www.thenation.com/a
rticle/politics/mike-pence-wisconsin-socialism
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Hmmmmmmmm...

Maybe they're just appealing to their base?

Everybody to the right of Obama has been called "alt-right" and has been abused by the Left for the last 4 years. Articles 6 months to a year ago were going as far as to say that Obama was a Republican. (You won't see those articles now, of course, since they need Obama to raise money for Biden... but they were there).

It sure seems like you're a revolutionary if you're not a wear-a-mask-and-bend-the-knee Liberal in 2020.

Incidentally, this is why Democrats are fucked when Generation Zed starts voting too.

Somehow you lefty idiots made being Republican cool. Lord knows that Republicans weren't ever going to figure out a way to do that themselves.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 2, 2020 2:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Hmmmmmmmm...

Maybe they're just appealing to their base?

Everybody to the right of Obama has been called "alt-right" and has been abused by the Left for the last 4 years. Articles 6 months to a year ago were going as far as to say that Obama was a Republican. (You won't see those articles now, of course, since they need Obama to raise money for Biden... but they were there).

It sure seems like you're a revolutionary if you're not a wear-a-mask-and-bend-the-knee Liberal in 2020.

Incidentally, this is why Democrats are fucked when Generation Zed starts voting too.

Somehow you lefty idiots made being Republican cool. Lord knows that Republicans weren't ever going to figure out a way to do that themselves.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

If you google the words party affiliation by age, it does NOT support the idea of the GOP IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE. www.google.com/search?q=party+affiliation+by+age

The Future is most likely gridlock in Congress and the Presidency switching back and forth between D and R.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 3, 2020 9:01 PM

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Tuesday, August 4, 2020 1:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Hmmmmmmmm...

Maybe they're just appealing to their base?

Everybody to the right of Obama has been called "alt-right" and has been abused by the Left for the last 4 years. Articles 6 months to a year ago were going as far as to say that Obama was a Republican. (You won't see those articles now, of course, since they need Obama to raise money for Biden... but they were there).

It sure seems like you're a revolutionary if you're not a wear-a-mask-and-bend-the-knee Liberal in 2020.

Incidentally, this is why Democrats are fucked when Generation Zed starts voting too.

Somehow you lefty idiots made being Republican cool. Lord knows that Republicans weren't ever going to figure out a way to do that themselves.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

If you google the words party affiliation by age, it does NOT support the idea of the GOP IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE. www.google.com/search?q=party+affiliation+by+age

The Future is most likely gridlock in Congress and the Presidency switching back and forth between D and R.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



I don't care what your Google has to say about it.

Kids don't like being told what to do.

When I was growing up, it was the Republicans and the religious right that sucked the fun out of every room.

In 2020 that's the Democrat's job.

You morons just made Conservatives the counter culture and didn't even realize it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, August 4, 2020 7:02 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I don't care what your Google has to say about it.

Kids don't like being told what to do.

When I was growing up, it was the Republicans and the religious right that sucked the fun out of every room.

In 2020 that's the Democrat's job.

You morons just made Conservatives the counter culture and didn't even realize it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I hang out with poor white trash in Texas. They say: "The police accidentally kill some worthless nigger and the Democrats act like that gives 'em permission to riot. They are anarchists overthrowing the government." Or "Old person dies of Covid-something, who was gonna die of something anyway, and the Democrats act like they can tell me to wear a mask, those Commies!" Or "Democrats have got no right to check Trump's income tax returns until after the IRS audit is completed -- it's the Law! Besides, taxes are too high and completely unfair. Everybody cheats. Why not Trump?" Poor white trash of the GOP are the new counter culture. All the smartest American youth want to join Trump's party, Party, PARTY! So much fun.

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Tuesday, August 4, 2020 11:19 AM

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Trump focusses on the fringe, the border or outer edges of a group and many of you follow suite. Stay focused, and remember the fringes of a group are small. The larger part of the group often disagrees with its fringe. It often holds different beliefs entirely.

Don’t go where Trump points.




T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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I hang out with poor white trash in Texas.



No you don't.

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Tuesday, August 4, 2020 3:22 PM

THG


Careful, if you hang out with garbage, you start smelling like trash. Jack knows this firsthand, right Jack?

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Wednesday, August 5, 2020 6:03 AM

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Originally posted by second:
I hang out with poor white trash in Texas.



No you don't.

The Covid recession that began in February may have been the simplest, most comprehensible business downturn in history. Much of the U.S. economy was put on hold to contain a pandemic. Job losses were concentrated in services that were either inessential or could be postponed, and were highly likely to spread the coronavirus: restaurants, air travel, dentists’ visits.

The main goal of economic policy was to make this temporary lockdown tolerable, sustaining the incomes of those unable to work.

Republicans, however, have shown no sign of understanding any of this. The policy proposals being floated by White House aides and advisers are almost surreal in their disconnect from reality. Cutting payroll taxes on workers who can’t work? Letting businesspeople deduct the full cost of three-martini lunches they can’t eat?

They don’t even seem to understand the mechanics of how unemployment checks are paid out. They proposed continuing benefits for a brief period while negotiations continue — but this literally can’t be done, because the state offices that disburse unemployment aid couldn’t handle the necessary reprogramming.

Above all, Republicans seem obsessed with the idea that unemployment benefits are making workers lazy and unwilling to accept jobs.

This would be a bizarre claim even if unemployment benefits really were reducing the incentive to seek work. After all, there are more than 30 million workers receiving benefits, but only five million job openings. No matter how harshly you treat the unemployed, they can’t take jobs that don’t exist.

It’s almost a secondary concern to note that there’s almost no evidence that unemployment benefits are, in fact, discouraging workers from taking jobs. Multiple studies find no significant incentive effect.

And unemployment benefits didn’t prevent the U.S. from adding seven million jobs, most of them for low-wage workers — that is, precisely the workers often receiving more in unemployment than from their normal jobs — during the abortive spring recovery.

By the way, a great majority of economists believe that unemployment benefits have helped sustain the economy as a whole, by supporting consumer spending.

So the attack on unemployment aid is rooted in deep ignorance. But there’s also a strong element of malice.

Republicans have a long history of suggesting that the jobless are moral failures — that they’d rather sit home watching TV than work. And the Trump years have been marked by a relentless assault on programs that help the less fortunate, from Obamacare to food stamps.

One indicator of G.O.P. disingenuousness is the sudden re-emergence of “deficit hawks” claiming that helping the unemployed will add too much to the national debt. I use the scare quotes because as far as I can tell not one of the politicians claiming that we can’t afford to help the unemployed raised any objections to Donald Trump’s $2 trillion tax cut for corporations and the wealthy.

More at www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/opinion/republicans-unemployed-coronavirus.
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