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Tuesday, February 23, 2021 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Falsehoods like Biden* won the election and half a million Americans died of Covid.

Over the past few weeks, we have recorded about 40% more deaths than we normally would.

https://jabberwocking.com/how-much-is-500000-extra-deaths/

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Virginia used to execute more people than any state other than Texas. Until 2002, the state capped lawyers’ fees at $650 per murder case and $13 an hour, all but ensuring that many capital defendants would receive incompetent representation.

But Virginia hasn’t executed anyone since 2017, and it will soon abolish the death penalty altogether. The state legislature gave its final approval to legislation ending capital punishment in Virginia on Monday. Gov. Ralph Northam, a Democrat, intends to sign the bill.

Virginia’s decision to halt executions is possible because of demographic changes that have transformed the one-time Republican stronghold into an increasingly reliable blue state. Northern Virginia has long provided homes to much of Washington, DC’s cosmopolitan workforce, but this region has grown both more diverse and more Democratic in recent years, especially in DC’s formerly conservative exurbs.

Meanwhile, Richmond, Virginia’s young professionals bring liberal views that have transformed the politics of the former capital of the Confederacy.

Virginia’s previous aggressive use of the death penalty existed largely because capital defendants frequently received inadequate representation at their trials. As the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said in 2001, “People who are well represented at trial do not get the death penalty.”

More at www.vox.com/22297141/death-penalty-virginia-abolish-ralph-northam-exec
utions


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Tuesday, February 23, 2021 5:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Over the past few weeks, we have recorded about 40% more deaths than we normally would.



No we didn't.


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Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:26 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Over the past few weeks, we have recorded about 40% more deaths than we normally would.



No we didn't.

The Republican Party has lost control of itself

I try never to miss Fareed Zakaria Sunday mornings on CNN.  His latest take (6 minutes) discusses why Germany went fascist in the 1930s when England didn’t — and the lessons for us here, now.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2021/02/21/exp-gps-0221-fareeds-take.cnn

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Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:32 AM

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Republicans’ New Strategy Is to Pretend Trump Never Happened
(At Least Until He Makes His Huge Comeback To Power, Which He Plans On Doing)

At Merrick Garland’s confirmation hearing, GOP senators remembered to be very upset about the Obama years.

It’s hard to know whether Republicans Hawley, Cruz, and Lee have somehow just forgotten the Trump years themselves, or if they really believe that the rest of us possess the short-term memories of a goldfish. Either way, it’s something of a relief to set our clocks back to the old-timey days of free-floating GOP whining about Obama and Eric Holder and gun control and all the ways Republicans have been made to suffer at the hands of bloodthirsty Democrats over the past few years. The free floating whining is probably the most tangible symbol of the return to business as usual.

Among the many reasons Garland is the perfect nominee for this moment? His refusal to be offended or drawn into stupid colloquies over political talking points so aged they smell like old cheese. He kept reminding the committee that he has been around a long time, and has seen a lot of things, and he isn’t going to fuss himself with their self-pity. His opening statement, in which he quoted Attorney General and later Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson, was a subtle, preemptive caution that he simply has no time for petty politics. Quoting Jackson’s famous warning, Garland said, “The prosecutor has more control over life, liberty, and reputation than any other person in America. While prosecutors at their best are one of the most beneficent forces in our society, when they act from malice or other base motives, they are one of the worst.” He closed with Jackson’s admonition that “the citizen’s safety lies in the prosecutor who tempers zeal with human kindness, who seeks truth and not victims, who serves the law and not factional purposes, and who approaches the task with humility.”

It was an elegant formulation, and one that, with all the talk of Hunter Biden and James Comey and political prosecutions of innocent Republicans, felt both relevant and deeply out of step with our current moment. Perhaps more than anything, it was an indication that Garland, and the Justice Department, and the country are moving forward, and onward. In response, Senate Republicans appear to be retreating to the bland comforts on offer back in 2016, hand wringing over the Fast and the Furious (really Ted Cruz?) and the good old days in which Donald J. Trump was still just a TV clown.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210223104632/https://slate.com/news-and-
politics/2021/02/republicans-pretend-trump-never-happened.html


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Wednesday, February 24, 2021 8:04 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Republicans’ New Strategy Is to Pretend Trump Never Happened
(At Least Until He Makes His Huge Comeback To Power, Which He Plans On Doing)




Trump and his legal problems will keep him front and center and follow many of the republican party wherever they go.

T



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Wednesday, February 24, 2021 8:58 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Republicans’ New Strategy Is to Pretend Trump Never Happened
(At Least Until He Makes His Huge Comeback To Power, Which He Plans On Doing)




Trump and his legal problems will keep him front and center and follow many of the republican party wherever they go.

I am not confident that Trump's legal problems will stop him from being renominated for President by the GOP.

Remember Trump's income tax evasions before 2016? Remember Trump University? It takes forever and a day for the American legal system to make a final decision about rich defendants. I don't think the courts can stop Trump in the next 4 years from running again. Maybe if courts are given 10 or 15 years Trump could be stopped by legal maneuvers, but the GOP primary season starts in about two years. The only people that could stop Trump quick enough to keep him off the primary ballots are the leaders of the GOP.

Trump is fortunate that the GOP leaders are guys like Mitch McConnell who don't have the guts to stop Trump. Mitch voted not guilty during the impeachment. Voting guilty was the easiest, quickest, most certain way to stop Trump from running again, but Mitch would NOT do it, which proves to me that Mitch won't stop Trump in other ways from getting on the primary ballots.

McConnell on Impeachment: “Disgraceful Dereliction” Cannot Lead Senate to “Defy Our Own Constitutional Guardrails”
https://www.mcconnell.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/pressreleases?ID=2ED
4EA6B-4BEE-462C-BF1E-7972207B5F53


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Wednesday, February 24, 2021 10:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump will be fine.




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Wednesday, February 24, 2021 2:40 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Trump will be fine.

Trump will be fine only because Mitch McConnell decided that Trump was guilty but Mitch refused to convict. Mitch's speech makes that clear:

“In recent weeks, our ex-President’s associates have tried to use the 74 million Americans who voted to re-elect him as a kind of human shield against criticism.

“Anyone who decries his awful behavior is accused of insulting millions of voters.

“That is an absurd deflection.

“74 million Americans did not invade the Capitol. Several hundred rioters did.

“And 74 million Americans did not engineer the campaign of disinformation and rage that provoked it.

“One person did. (Hint: TRUMP is that one person)

***

“I have made my view of this episode very plain.

“But our system of government gave the Senate a specific task. The Constitution gives us a particular role.

“This body is not invited to act as the nation’s overarching moral tribunal.

“We are not free to work backward from whether the accused party might personally deserve some kind of punishment.

“Justice Joseph Story was our nation’s first great constitutional scholar. As he explained nearly 200 years ago, the process of impeachment and conviction is a narrow tool for a narrow purpose.

“Story explained this limited tool exists to “secure the state against gross official misdemeanors.” That is, to protect the country from government officers.

“If President Trump were still in office, I would have carefully considered whether the House managers proved their specific charge.

“By the strict criminal standard, the President’s speech probably was not incitement.

“However, in the context of impeachment, the Senate might have decided this was acceptable shorthand for the reckless actions that preceded the riot.

“But in this case, that question is moot. Because former President Trump is constitutionally not eligible for conviction. {Experts on the Constitution said Mitch was talking nonsense:
https://www.lawfareblog.com/constitutionality-trying-former-president-
impeached-while-office

https://reason.com/volokh/2021/01/22/legal-scholars-letter-supporting-
constitutionality-of-impeaching-and-convicting-presidents-after-they-leave-office
/ }

https://www.mcconnell.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/pressreleases?ID=2ED
4EA6B-4BEE-462C-BF1E-7972207B5F53


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Wednesday, February 24, 2021 4:49 PM

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Liz Cheney: "We're Not White Supremacy Party" as Stephen Miller Briefs GOP Congress on Immigration!


If they're not the party of white supremacy, why is it that white supremacists always, only, vote Republican?



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Saturday, February 27, 2021 8:58 AM

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Why can’t Republicans quit the provably false claim that Donald Trump won the 2020 election?

It’s a bold-faced fabrication, easy to leave behind, and yet they refuse to let it go. I understand why the ex-president clings to it—everything about him demands that he be seen as a powerful awesome winner for all time. But what about people like Rep. Steve Scalise, who refused to concede the election results were valid just last weekend on ABC’s This Week, or Justice Clarence Thomas, who devoted a lone unhinged dissent to that possibility in a Pennsylvania elections case on Monday? CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Conference, is meeting—in person, in Florida—this week, and it is devoting seven different panels to stolen elections, with titles like “Other Culprits: Why Judges and Media Refused to Look at the Evidence” or “The Left Pulled Strings, Covered It Up, and Even Admits It” or “Protecting Elections Part VI: Failed States (PA, GA, NV, Oh My!)”

Why is the lie so sticky for so many? MSNBC’s Marc Ambinder reminds us of one big reason to persist in the fiction: The lie serves the party’s ultimate goal of suppressing the votes of likely Democrats. It’s clear that while even Trump’s own agencies determined that this election was “the most secure in history,” the record voter turnout in the midst of a pandemic means that the sustainability of the GOP as a political party now lies in constricting the franchise, including placing needless limits on mail-in voting. The laser focus of state-level Republican efforts right now is thus to limit voting rights. Ari Berman reported this week on a new analysis from the Brennan Center for Justice, showing that in the two months that constitute 2021 so far, 253 bills to restrict voting access have been introduced in 43 states, with Georgia serving as ground zero for experiments in restricting voting by mail, Sunday voting, and tweaking the Georgia runoff rules. Despite the fact that three recounts turned up no evidence of fraud in Georgia, the big lie with its reliance on false claims of rampant voter fraud remains the best way to ensure that the kind of people who vote for Democrats will be ever more challenged in their efforts to vote going forward. As Georgia’s Republican secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, explained earlier this week, “Many of these bills are reactionary to a three-month disinformation campaign that could have been prevented.”

But it doesn’t stop at justifying vote suppression. The big lie does more than just work to preserve the hope of minority rule in future election cycles. And it does more than just tether the GOP to Donald Trump, which is clearly the path most of them have already chosen. The big lie also serves to cast doubt about the legitimacy of the Biden presidency, and the incredibly popular initiatives that are quickly being rolled out. So in addition to objecting to much-needed COVID-19 relief and other desperately needed measures, Republicans pressing the big lie serve to try to convince voters that the man who is currently governing in the public interest is a usurper who is only in office because of stolen votes. The “crime,” in this telling, is ongoing. The best way to persuade voters that they don’t want economic and lifesaving health care relief most of them really need is to cast doubt on the person who is offering it to them. As long as Biden’s efforts to correct for Trump’s negligence and mishandling of the various crises succeed, “stop the steal” will continue to be the deflection and distraction of choice.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/republicans-cpac-stolen-el
ection-lie.html


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Saturday, February 27, 2021 11:04 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Why can’t Republicans quit the provably false claim that Donald Trump won the 2020 election?




Oh oh, pick me pick me!

T



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Saturday, February 27, 2021 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by THG:

Oh oh, pick me pick me!

T


The big lie, then, is not just nomenclature of those hellbent on restricting who can vote in the midterms and 2024. And it’s not just the language of the nihilism and denialism of those who want Joe Biden to fail and must feed the idea of his illegitimacy in order to do that. The big lie isn’t just aimed at election reform or undermining Democrats. It’s also aimed at elections themselves. It suggests, as do all seven of those CPAC panels, not just that people of color and poor people and young people in Detroit and Philadelphia cannot cast valid ballots, but also that elections themselves are “rigged” and “fixed” and that the courts and the media and state elections officials are all in on the tyranny. The endpoint, therefore, won’t simply lie in making it more difficult to vote, and more challenging to govern. The endgame lies in convincing voters that democracy itself is pointless. The big lie isn’t just an attempt to advantage Donald Trump in 2024 or Republican rule in the midterms. It’s an attempt to seed and nurture the forces of tyranny and autocracy, in precisely the fashion most big lies are intended.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-01-15/the-u-s-can-lear
n-about-trump-s-big-lie-from-weimar-germany-and-ancient-rome


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Saturday, February 27, 2021 12:44 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


UNLIKE THE PARA ABOVE, THIS IS FROM THE BLOOMBERG LINK.
Quote:

For Hitler and the Nazis the Big Lie was the “stab-in-the-back-myth.” It said that Imperial Germany was never defeated in World War I, and that it collapsed, surrendered and suffered the humiliation of the Versailles Treaty only because Jews and socialists at home betrayed their country. These domestic traitors were henceforth the new enemies. They had to be eliminated to Make Germany Great Again.

Trump’s Hillary's Big Lie is that the 2016 November election was stolen from him — that he, not Joe Biden, her, that she- not Domald Trump- iswas the rightful president for the next four years. All Americans who see it differently, including judges and civil servants who resisted Trump’s Hillary's entreaties to reject the vote tallies, are what the socialists and Jews were to the Nazis: domestic enemies. Russian agents.



Now, that para is what I call an inversion of reality. It was HILLARY who started the "stolen election" accusation. It accuses Trump of doing what Hillary, the DNC, and Biden* have done, and are continuing to do: As far as I can tell, it is the DEMS who've introduced the phrase "domestic terrorism" to describe their political rivals, and worse than that, it looks like they (like Hitler) are planning on passing and enacting a law to make that concept legally-enforceable.

Quote:

For a republic, a Big Lie is less like an exploding bomb and more like a corrosive acid. It works slowly. Hitler failed in his attempted coup, the Beer Hall Putsch of 1923, and even spent time in prison. He then kept failing for several more years. Incidentally, the Nazis never won more than 37.3% in an election. But Hitler nonetheless seized power in 1933.

If it took 14 years for the Weimar Republic to crumble, the terminal decline of the Roman Republic lasted a century. One analog between it and today’s America is an unhealthy rise in inequality, as rich Romans increasingly bought up the small farms of Italy and turned their former owners into plebeians in the slums of Rome. The U.S. equivalent is what Trump has called “American carnage.”

With this inequality came increasingly brazen corruption by the newly super-rich in Rome’s senate, assemblies and courts. This led to the rise of populism as a political style, as “populares” appealed directly to the mob to gain power and conservative “optimates” resisted them. Like many populists today, the populares — from the Gracchi brothers to Julius Caesar — were usually themselves members of the patrician upper class, but cynically exploited anti-elitism to amass power.

Then as now, taboos kept being broken. Political violence became commonplace in the Roman Forum and backstreets. And starting with Marius and Sulla, legions started being loyal to their commanders or charismatic individuals rather than the republic. An anxiety that this could also happen in Trump’s America recently motivated all ten living defense secretaries to issue a public warning against deploying the military in election disputes.

Once broken, taboos are hard to unbreak. And their damage is cumulative. Lies go unpunished, violence leaches from words into deeds, loyalties shift from country to parties or individuals. Gradually, the republic — its constitution, precedents and norms — becomes hollow. Citizens stop believing in it.

I think it takes more than one "big lie" to undo a nation, just like it took more than one "big lie" in Germany. The one Big Thing that led Germany on the path of Nazism was hyperinflation and joblessness. People were starving in the streets, and society was racked with misery and fear.

There are also a number of Big Lies underpinning America's demise, but the thing that will fell the USA will be finacial collapse.


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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Saturday, February 27, 2021 12:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Because of SECOND's habit of quoting articles without using the quote function, it's impossible to tell where an article ends and where SECOND's opinion begins. Maybe he's trying to "borrow" credibility by framing his opinion as someone else's?

So, just to be clear:
Quote:

The big lie, then, is not just nomenclature of those hellbent on restricting who can vote in the midterms and 2024. And it’s not just the language of the nihilism and denialism of those who want Joe Biden to fail and must feed the idea of his illegitimacy in order to do that. The big lie isn’t just aimed at election reform or undermining Democrats. It’s also aimed at elections themselves. It suggests, as do all seven of those CPAC panels, not just that people of color and poor people and young people in Detroit and Philadelphia cannot cast valid ballots, but also that elections themselves are “rigged” and “fixed” and that the courts and the media and state elections officials are all in on the tyranny. The endpoint, therefore, won’t simply lie in making it more difficult to vote, and more challenging to govern. The endgame lies in convincing voters that democracy itself is pointless. The big lie isn’t just an attempt to advantage Donald Trump in 2024 or Republican rule in the midterms. It’s an attempt to seed and nurture the forces of tyranny and autocracy, in precisely the fashion most big lies are intended.
is NOT part of the Bloomberg opinion-piece.

I don't know where SECOND got it from, but it's not from that link.

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Saturday, February 27, 2021 1:59 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I don't know where SECOND got it from, but it's not from that link.

It is https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/republicans-cpac-stolen-el
ection-lie.html


But I've read enough your writing to know that you will know nothing even after you read it. Signym, 1kiki, and 6ix have such tiny real life problems, but they have even smaller ability to solve the problems, such that your lives are plagued with difficulties that capable people quickly solve or adjust to.

Black experts were often those who most forcefully rejected the argument that Trump’s appeal to voters was primarily based on feelings of “economic anxiety” or that Trump’s ideas should be taken “seriously but not literally.”

Two Black political experts stand out in particular. The Atlantic’s Adam Serwer argued that many of Trump’s supporters backed him because of his harshness toward conservatives’ perceived enemies (“The Cruelty Is the Point,” a Serwer piece was headlined.). And Ta-Nehisi Coates, then at The Atlantic, dubbed Trump “The First White President,” arguing that his rise was best understood as a backlash to Obama. Those pieces were written early in Trump’s presidency but are still memorable because they ended up accurately capturing some of the main themes of his tenure in office.

Nine lessons I learned about political reporting while covering Trump
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nine-lessons-i-learned-about-poli
tical-reporting-while-covering-trump
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Saturday, February 27, 2021 2:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Speculate all you want about my "problems" SECONDRATE, they're nothing compared to your emotional ones.

:-)

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Saturday, February 27, 2021 2:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SIGNY: I think it takes more than one "big lie" to undo a nation, just like it took more than one "big lie" in Germany. The one Big Thing that led Germany on the path of Nazism was hyperinflation and joblessness. People were starving in the streets, and society was racked with misery and fear.

There are also a number of Big Lies underpinning America's demise, but the thing that will fell the USA will be finacial collapse.



The financial collapse following the ongoing economic collapse 2000 to 20??

No comment, SECOND?

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Saturday, February 27, 2021 6:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



SECOND linked Bloomberg to a plagiarized Slate, then trolled 3 posters for having a difference of opinion from Slate.

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Saturday, February 27, 2021 6:25 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Poll: Democrat Voters’ Number One ‘Concern’ Is Trump Supporters
The Democratic Party and the leftist media has brainwashed liberals into purely caring about identity politics over substantive issues

A poll conducted by Echelon has found that while Republican voters are concerned with issues such as illegal immigration, lack of police resources, and high taxes, Democrat voters’ top concerns are supporters of President Trump, racism, and discrimination against LGBTQ people.

This quote from a news article is a perfectly accurate representation of Echelon's poll results.

Echelon poll link below

https://twitter.com/echeloninsights/status/1364612121892388865

news article that led me to research the actual poll below

https://summit.news/2021/02/26/poll-democrat-voters-number-one-concern
-is-trump-supporters
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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

SECOND linked Bloomberg to a plagiarized Slate, then trolled 3 posters for having a difference of opinion from Slate.

I know hundreds of Trump supporters. All of them, except the wealthy, are funny-in-the-head people who can talk for hours explaining why they support Trump. Most claim to be "Independent", making their own heroic and individualistic decisions, not following a party. Most claim that the Democrats "forced" them to vote for Trump. Most of them will talk your ears off about Trump. The wealthy are more succinct: their support is about money.

I can make solid deals with wealthy Trump voters because they are sane, honest, trustworthy people who make sense, but that's not true for the lower 99% of Trump's defenders and apologists. The top 1% recognize this about the rest.

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Monday, March 1, 2021 8:34 AM

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Trump’s first post-presidential speech was just as bad as the speech he gave before the January 6 insurrection and January 13 Impeachment.

If anybody thought the January 6 insurrection and the ensuing second impeachment trial might’ve chastened Donald Trump, his CPAC speech on Sunday should’ve disabused them of that notion — and of any thoughts the former president would ever accept the reality that his loss to President Joe Biden was fair and legitimate.

Trump’s first speech since leaving the White House was heavy on “the big lie” — the false and long-debunked claim that the 2020 election was stolen from him — that inspired the deadly insurrection aimed at overturning his election loss.

“I may even decide to beat [Democrats] for a third time,” Trump said early on during his speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), implying his loss to Biden was illegitimate while teasing the possibility of running again in 2024.

That remark was met with a standing ovation.

Trump claimed that “had we had a fair election, the results would’ve been much different” — even though election security officials from his own administration have confirmed Biden’s victory was the result of a free and fair election.

“The election was rigged,” he lied before attacking the Supreme Court for not overthrowing the results for him with language eerily similar to the way he attacked then-Vice President Mike Pence during his speech just before the January 6 insurrection.

“They didn’t have the guts or the courage to make the right decision,” Trump said.

Trump’s lie about the election being rigged was met with chants of “You won! You won!”

Trump claimed “it is undeniable” that election rules were “illegally changed.” But court after court rejected Trump’s so-called evidence that something was amiss during last November’s election, including as recently as last week.

It’s tempting to dismiss this rhetoric as the rantings of a man out of power who’s whiling away his days at his private club in Florida. But Trump may yet return to the White House. A straw poll taken at CPAC found him to be the candidate attendees most hoped to see run in 2024 by more than two to one over Ron DeSantis, even if the fact that only 68 percent of respondents said Trump should run again was a bit disappointing considering the conference was basically a weekend-long celebration of him.

But even if Trump is never again an elected official, the danger is that, as they did on January 6, Trump’s more fervent adherents might take him seriously and target a government their leader describes as illegitimate with violence.

More at https://www.vox.com/2021/2/28/22306318/trump-cpac-2021-speech-election
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Monday, March 1, 2021 8:37 AM

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Fake mail-in election was fake.


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Monday, March 1, 2021 8:38 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

SECOND linked Bloomberg to a plagiarized Slate, then trolled 3 posters for having a difference of opinion from Slate.

I know hundreds of Trump supporters. All of them, except the wealthy, are funny people who will talk for hours explaining why they support Trump. Most claim to be "Independent", making their own heroic and individualistic decisions, not following a party. Most claim that the Democrats forced them to vote for Trump. Most of them will talk your ears off about Trump. The wealthy are more succinct: their support is about money.



The only one here still talking about Trump is you dummy.


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

The only one here still talking about Trump is you dummy.

The richest 1% of Trump voters recognize that Trump is a loudmouth lunatic who can be depended on to look after the needs of the 1%. The lower 99%, especially the lower 50%, are where they are economically because they can't see Trump for what he is. They can't recognize how incompetent Trump was as President. How could they? They can't recognize how incompetent they run their own lives, so what else would you expect from them?

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Monday, March 1, 2021 8:53 AM

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The only one here still talking about Trump is you dummy.


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The only one here still talking about Trump is you dummy.

I am talking about the 74 million who voted for grossly incompetent and mentally unstable Trump and revealed themselves for who they are. The humorous part is that Trump voters cannot understand why their lives aren't richer and easier when they should know from history that America has never been a gentle place for those who are mentally ill and/or incompetent. The Trump voters keep pretending that Democrats or Federal government or Big Business are blocking Trump voters from all the goodies expected in America, but it is Trump voters' lame brains and false beliefs that hold back Trump voters. Rise up, oppressed Trump voters and take back your country! But you never lost the country and you never understood what to do with your lives and, going by the Trumptards I know who have died out of general stupidity, you never will know.

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Monday, March 1, 2021 9:33 AM

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The only one here still talking about Trump is you dummy.



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Monday, March 1, 2021 7:50 PM

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Oh, Ted too. But Ted's retarded.


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