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Another series of Mass Shootings... at Las Vegas... 40 + People Dead?

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Saturday, October 7, 2017 3:46 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Another crazy white boy up in the bell tower with a gun, next!
I've seen this movie too.


SGG


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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

A Mass Shooter? Reports of People shot dead after shooting on Las Vegas Strip, at a Concert?
....possibly not terror NOT terrorist related, so the guy is not from the Middle East, didn't log on ISIS websites or say Al Lah Ackbar!? Shooting occurring at the Tropicana, another shooting at luxor in vegas, shooting at Mandalay Bay Resort in Las Vegas. Seems like another Mass Shooting? show with video where you can hear automatic weapon fire. They cut to video where somebody is firing on the crowd. From the video, it looks bad situation. It may have been multiple shooters, it was a lot of burst...Police now say they have one suspect they were looking for, multiple casualties near Mandalay Bay Casino. People were running, hiding behind objects for cover, one of duty police officer shot dead while out with his family? Gunshots and deaths at Jake Owen music, a Country Music concert? in Las Vegas Village, Police Reports say he was shooting from 32nd floor of hotel - the Gunman was then shot dead - Police have found gunman's female companion, Marilou Danley?
https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/lasvegas
http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/21038
https://twitter.com/hashtag/vegasshooting
Police Scanner. Absolutely sad hearing about all dead bodies, horrible sick event

something perhaps Similar to the historical Texas Tower Shootings? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman
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Charles Joseph Whitman (June 24, 1941 – August 1, 1966) was an American mass murderer who became infamous as the "Texas Tower Sniper". On August 1, 1966, he murdered his mother and wife in their homes, then went to the University of Texas at Austin where he shot and killed three people inside the university's tower. He then went to the tower's 28th-floor observation deck, where he fired at random for some 96 minutes, killing an additional eleven people and wounding thirty-one before being shot and killed by police. Sixteen people were killed in total; a 17th victim died in 2001 from injuries sustained in the attack.


gunman opens fire on Mandalay Bay crowds
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/route-91-harvest-festival-shooti
ng-footage-captures-terrifying-moment-gunman-opens-fire-on-crowds-a3648046.html

Officers responded to that hotel room and engaged the suspect, killing him, police said. They do not believe at this time that there were any other shooters, despite reports of multiple gunmen. Police said they do not have an accurate number of victims yet.... Mass Murdering Shooter was Possibly Going Through a Divorce & Sued a Las Vegas Strip Casino in 2012. Dan Bilzerian, the professional poker player and businessman, posted a video running from the concert saying, “a girl just got shot in the f*cking head.”

some of the online forums blogs message boards
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number keeps rising. Holy smokes! I just read the same... 20 dead and over 100 injured. So sad. Sending prayers for all involved.
https://texags.com/forums/12/topics/2890728
I just got a notification saying fifty have died.
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2245293/mass-shooting-at-the-
mandalay-bay-in-las-vegas/p5

Looks like it was at the Route 91 music festival across from Mandalay Bay, but shots look like they might have come from up in the hotel somewhere.
https://www.vegasmessageboard.com/forums/index.php?threads/the-mass-sh
ooting-near-mandalay-bay.145287
/
you can hear massive amounts of automatic gun fire.
http://www.redcafe.net/threads/shooting-in-las-vegas.432868/
I heard at least one report of multiple fatalities.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?351211-Active-shooter-
Mandalay-Bay-Resort-in-Las-Vegas-2-October-2017/page2

Fcking crazy, literally no where to run or hide if he's taking shots from above.
http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/shooting-at-mandalay-bay-res
ort-las-vegas.330825/page-3

Horrific


can hear the bullets.... automatic fire.

more news will be released shortly.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2311913-Active-shooter-on-Las-Vega
s-strip

Two cops down, reports of 40+ dead. Moving from casino to casino it sounds like.
https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/jumping-off-now-active-shooter-manda
lay-bay-las-vegas.1677456
/
Excess of 20 dead and 100 plus injured. Main suspect shot dead.
Trying to locate male person of interest.
https://the-fringe.com/thread-las_vegas_shooting_leaves_2_dead_26_inju
red_update_50_dead_100_injured




Country music singer Owen tweeted that he is OK:
http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/jake-owen-route-91-las-vegas-shooting-ho
w-is-he-status-victim-harvest-festival-update
/
Praying for everyone here in Vegas. I witnessed the most unimaginable event tonight. We are okay. Others arent. Please pray.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/stephen-paddock-shooter-first-photo-mugs
hot
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Shooter...has a criminal history and was known by local police.
More than 50 Dead?
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9be_1506940561&comments=1#comments
Footage
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=057_1506943742&comments=1#comments
MSM has identified the shooter, 64 year old Stephen Paddock but have yet to comment on his intent.
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9d5_1506945533&comments=1#comments

The Mandala Bay resort and casino has been placed on lock-down as police hunted an “active shooter” after automatic gunfire broke out at the Route 91 Harvest music festival.

Police said one suspect was "down" and at least two people were killed in the shooting, with about 26 others injured.

One music fan, who was attempting to film the band when shots were heard around the festival, captured the moment on camera.

The footage shows a few seconds of the stage before the music is interrupted by what sounds like machine gun fire.


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Saturday, October 7, 2017 7:42 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock’s brother allegedly threatened to kill his friend, sold meth: court papers

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/las-vegas-gunman-paddock-brot
her-threatened-kill-friend-article-1.3543406


Las Vegas killer Stephen Paddock’s unbalanced brother allegedly once threatened to kill a friend in California, court records show.

Bruce Paddock was living without permission in a San Fernando Valley home in 2014 when his friend Hector Cruz, the owner, accused him of tampering with machinery, the records filed in Los Angeles show.

When Cruz confronted him, Paddock allegedly said, “If you keep f------ with me, I am going to kill you and drop you in the desert.”

The 57-year-old Paddock also told Cruz, “Hit me like a man,” and punched his antagonist in one arm.


Cruz said he got the menacing message.

“I am extremely afraid of Paddock, who has intimidated me by his violent character and destruction of my business office and my service bay,” he said in court papers, according to the website.


Cruz told the Daily News and said in court papers that Paddock liked to get high and sold methamphetamine and marijuana. His behavior is “extremely erratic and unpredictable,” Cruz claimed.

He also told The News that Bruce Paddock was filled with paranoia and installed hidden cameras in the house and work area, as well as in his car.



“He said he had stuff to make explosives,” Cruz said. “He’s just a crazy guy. He was getting money from his mother and leaching off the government. He was extremely intelligent, but he was just trash.”
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In a chilling coincidence, Stephen Paddock possessed explosives in his house and car. He also installed hidden cameras in the hallway and the hotel room he used as a sniper’s nest Sunday in the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.



The story so far is a man Stephen Paddock commited the biggest massacre in US history? — a retired, 64-year-old accountant with absolutely no firearms training, no violence from him, no gun experience and no physical stamina 'SNAPS' and killeed 59 people? The media continues to tell us a lone old man, No terrorist plot, no political motivation.

Something does not add up?


footage from 2011 of Stephen Paddock

in the Manadalay bay hotel who slipped an then sued for liquid on the floor..



'Paddock' was a white,wealthy, blond haired old guy, worked government and high skilled high paid jobs and a man who was in the real estate business

Las Vegas Strip mass murderer Stephen Paddock used his Mandalay Bay hotel room to fire bullets at jet fuel tanks Sunday night, a knowledgeable source told the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

Las Vegas Strip mass murderer Stephen Paddock used his Mandalay Bay hotel room to fire bullets at jet fuel tanks Sunday night, a knowledgeable source told the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

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Las Vegas shooter’s girlfriend reveals the creepy stuff he’d yell while asleep at night


https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/las-vegas-shooters-girlfriend-reveals
-the-creepy-stuff-hed-yell-while-asleep-at-night
/

The Las Vegas shooter, Stephen Paddock, would lie in bed moaning and screaming, “Oh, my God!” his girlfriend Marilou Danley told FBI investigators, NBC News reported.

One former FBI official told NBC News that Danley spoke about Paddock displaying “mental health symptoms.”

Investigators now believe that the 64-year-old Paddock, who murdered 58 people and injured nearly 500 others when he fired out of his hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel, may have been in physical or mental anguish, the sources told the news organization.

While Paddock had been prescribed the anti-anxiety medication Valium, according to state and federal law enforcement officials, FBI officials don’t believe that Paddock’s mental health had deteriorated to the point that would have triggered him to commit mass murder. Two FBI officials told NBC News that they still have not identified a clear motive.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
My guess is that Paddock was in the grip of powerful delusions. But, we'll see.





Wasn't there an X-Files episode on this? The whole Bell tower, Clock building Tower and that guy he was in Blade Runner, True Blood, Last Man Standing




...back to reality?

Investigators acknowledge at least one other person could have known about Stephen Paddock’s plan to execute dozens of country music concertgoers in Las Vegas.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/person-gunman-las-vegas-attac
k-plan-article-1.3546151?utm_content=Yahoo+Search+Results&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+NydnRss+%28Top+Stories+-+NY+Daily+News%29&utm_source=feedburner


Second person may have had access to Stephen Paddock’s suite, known about Las Vegas mass shooting plan
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Clark County Undersheriff Kevin McCahill, after declaring law enforcement had already chased more than 1,000 leads, said Friday they remained unsure if someone had advance word of the carnage.



“I can tell you this: We are very confident that there was not another shooter in the room,” McCahill said. “What I cannot confirm to you, and what we continue to investigate, is whether anybody else might have known about this incident before he carried it out.”


There remained one indicator a second person may have been inside the 32nd floor hotel suite at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino: a phone charger that failed to match any of Paddock’s devices, NBC News reported.

A review of “voluminous amounts” of video from Mandalay Bay security cameras did not resolve the question about prior knowledge regarding the methodical plan that became the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

McCahill said the investigation was not entirely in vain — but it still failed to answer the biggest question: Why?

“While some of it has helped create a better profile into the madness of the suspect, we still do not have a clear motive or reason why,” he said.


Authorities have yet to turn up a manifesto, a social media post or anything else offering an explanation of the Sunday night shooting.

McCahill refuted a report that a hotel key card was used to enter Paddock’s room at a time when the millionaire gambler’s car was gone from the hotel garage.

The report suggested a second person had access to the suite where Paddock, 64, made his final stand with a cache of 23 weapons and thousands of rounds of ammo.

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Saturday, October 7, 2017 8:43 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: Your article is bullshit. . . . So I still come back to the idea that the problem with people . . .

A great deal of commentary attempts to tie mass shootings to a single issue. Often, that seems like the easiest way to make sense of atrocities. That’s why we get sound bites that lean on mental health (when shooters are white), terrorist ties and affiliations (when shooters are brown), gang violence and “urban decay” (when shooters are black), bullying (when it happens in a school), and overwork (when it happens in a workplace).

International evidence now makes us incredibly confident when we say that the number of guns in a society is positively correlated with the number of mass shootings in a society, as supported by a study spanning three decades of analysis in a collection of nations around the world.

There are two questions that require explanation related to mass shootings. First, why is it that men commit virtually all mass shootings? And second, why do American men commit mass shootings more than men anywhere else in the world?

https://qz.com/1095247

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 7, 2017 10:50 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SECOND:

Most mass-shooters turn out to be merely a white American man



No SECOND, not any more. Now they are Muslim and their lineage can be traced back to Africa and the Middle East. The fact that mass killings with guns happens here is because of access. And most if not 99% of these white men have a mental illness.








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Saturday, October 7, 2017 1:44 PM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by second:
International evidence now makes us incredibly confident when we say that the number of guns in a society is positively correlated with the number of mass shootings in a society, as supported by a study spanning three decades of analysis in a collection of nations around the world.



That's a careless thing to say. I even said above that I "suspect" that this might have something to do with stricter gun control laws in other countries, but there isn't much evidence to this. Especially not enough to say you're "incredibly confident" that this is the reason.

There are other countries that have lax gun control laws that don't have the amount of mass shootings we have in the US. We're also talking about an extremely small percentage of people who would do something like this.

For instance, do you believe that if we were somehow to magically remove 50% of all guns in America overnight that we would effectively cut all future mass shootings here by 50% as well? That's what the statement in the article says. Not only would that be impossible to prove, but I doubt it would have any impact whatsoever on the number of future shootings.

There are many reasons why more shootings would happen here. I'm not denying that access is one of them, but to blame it squarely on the guns is not honest, and it ignores trying to get to the actual source of the problems. Many Muslims have proven that you don't need a gun. Somebody who wants to do this will find a way to do it.


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
No SECOND, not any more. Now they are Muslim and their lineage can be traced back to Africa and the Middle East. The fact that mass killings with guns happens here is because of access. And most if not 99% of these white men have a mental illness.



Hey. We might not agree on much, but you're really starting to get one of the main reasons I've completely turned my back on the Democratic party. There may be hope for the Democrats and dumping identity politics yet.

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Sunday, October 8, 2017 8:23 AM

JAYNEZTOWN




Paddock was also known to collect coins as a child.

The family grew up in Sun Valley, California – but are thought to have moved around and also lived in Tucson, Arizon.

Their dad was notorious “criminal psychopath” Benjamin Hoskins Paddock – an armed robber who was on the FBI’s most wanted list.

Eric – who was born while his dad was on the run – said Benjamin “Chromedome” Paddock wasn’t really around when they were kids.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/649425/las-vegas-shooting-s
tephen-paddock-childhood-high-school-yearbook-photo-mandaly-bay


Paddock was reportedly a multimillionaire who paid for large transactions with cash.
http://www.rebelcircus.com/blog/las-vegas-shooters-brother-is-a-crimin
al-too-history-of-arson-burglary-threats-vandalism-possession
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According to the court records, Paddock was married and separated twice; first from 1977 to 1979, and from 1985 to the 1990 it was for the second time, and his both marriages in Los Angeles County, California. From 2013 to 2015, Paddock lived in a retirement community in Melbourne, Florida.

Paddock previously lived in Texas and California. In 2010, Paddock also applied for and received a U.S. passport. He lived in some retirement communities. In 2016 he moved to the 2,400 miles (3,900 km) west across the country from Melbourne, Florida, to a new retirement home in Mesquite, and in the Nevada, about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas. According to the property records, he also bought a single-family home there in 2013. For several years, he lived with his girlfriend in a retirement community in Reno, Nevada in addition to his home in Mesquite.


https://www.wickedfacts.com/stephen-paddock-motive/

cbsnews : Note in Las Vegas gunman's hotel room included details of bullet trajectory
Cops reveal contents of Vegas madman’s cryptic note
In their first in-depth interview, the officers who stormed Stephen Paddock's hotel room reveal new details to "60 Minutes"
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2017 Oct 07

Las Vegas mass murderer Stephen Paddock coldly calculated where he needed to aim to bolster his accuracy — and kill as many people as possible, according to a new report.
Officer Dave Newton of the Las Vegas Police Department’s K-9 unit said he noticed a pink slip of paper Paddock left on his nightstand in the 32nd floor Vista suite at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.
“I could see on it he had written the distance, the elevation he was on, the drop of what his bullet was gonna be for the crowd,” Newton told “60 Minutes” in an interview that will air Sunday. “So he had that written down and figured out so he would know where to shoot to hit his targets from there.”
Paddock murdered 58 people and wounded hundreds more attending the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival, across Las Vegas Boulevard from his suite at the hotel .
Sometime after his 10-minute shooting spree, Paddock killed himself.




n an interview airing Sunday on "60 Minutes," three police officers who stormed Stephen Paddock's hotel room in the Mandalay Bay hotel tell correspondent Bill Whitaker new details about the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history. The officers were the first to see Paddock's body and the arsenal of weapons and ammunition he had stockpiled.
Officer Dave Newton from the Las Vegas Police Department's K-9 unit said he noticed a note on the shooter's nightstand once officers breached the room. He said the note was located near one of the windows that Paddock had smashed with a hammer to fire onto the crowd below with high-powered semi-automatic rifles outfitted to increase their rate of fire.
"I could see on it he had written the distance, the elevation he was on, the drop of what his bullet was gonna be for the crowd," Newton said. "So he had that written down and figured out so he would know where to shoot to hit his targets from there."
Paddock's hotel suite was on the 32nd floor of the hotel, looking down on the crowd across the street. More than 20,000 people were attending the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival when Paddock opened fire. The crowd was approximately 400 yards away, well within range of the expensive custom-made rifles found in his suite.
Newton told Whitaker what it was like to enter the room amid the flashing lights of a fire alarm set off by an explosive used to blow through the door.
"Very eerie. Yeah, the dust from the explosive breach. And then you have the flashing lights," Newton said. "And that looked straight, like, out of a movie, you know?"
Whitaker spoke to the team in their first in-depth interview and to Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo for a story to be broadcast on "60 Minutes" this Sunday, Oct. 8, at 7 p.m. ET/PT on the CBS Television Network.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/new-details-about-note-found-in-v
egas-shooters-hotel-room/ar-AAt266P

New details about note found in Vegas shooter's hotel room

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Sunday, October 8, 2017 9:45 AM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
"And that looked straight, like, out of a movie, you know?"



Ya don't say?

It didn't look straight, like, out of one of the Kingsmen movies, did it?

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Friday, October 13, 2017 4:53 AM

OONJERAH


Las Vegas hotel owners dispute police timeline, say there was
no gap between report of gunshots and massacre

  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/12/las-vega
s-hotel-owners-dispute-police-timeline-say-there-was-no-gap-between-report-of-gunshots-and-massacre/?utm_term=.355a010cdd8c


"In the days since Stephen Paddock opened fire from his 32nd-floor suite
at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, killing 58 people at a country
music festival and injuring hundreds more before shooting himself,
mystery has surrounded his motivations and planning. ...


... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Friday, October 13, 2017 7:35 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


..and the story just keep changing.

Great.


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Saturday, October 14, 2017 3:16 AM

OONJERAH


Father’s History Could Offer Insight into Mind of Las Vegas Gunman
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/us/stephen-paddock-father-vegas.htm
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Facing prison for a string of bank robberies, Benjamin Hoskins Paddock
beamed cheerfully at a psychiatrist evaluating his fitness to stand trial,
and mused at length — at times with “becoming modesty” — about his
life stealing cars, running cons, enduring solitary confinement and get-
ting fired from a job as a bus driver after playing tag with the buses.

“I’m a third time loser,” Mr. Paddock, the father of the Las Vegas gunman,
Stephen Paddock, told the doctor with a smile, according to a summary
of the doctor’s evaluation. ...

..............
  If Stephen Paddock inherited his Outlaw behavior from his Dad ...
How so? What did they have in common? Was it learn by example ...
are there genetic influences?

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:51 AM

OONJERAH



Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos resurfaces on Ellen DeGeneres show
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/10/18/mandalay
-bay-security-guard-jesus-campos-resurfaces-on-ellen-degeneres-show/?utm_term=.459b0551b576


The Mandalay Bay security guard who was described as “missing” in
recent news reports has turned up on “The Ellen DeGeneres Show,”
where he taped his first public account of being wounded as he res-
ponded to Stephen Paddock’s deadly shooting rampage in Las Vegas.

In a segment set for broadcast on Wednesday, ...

... oooOO}{OOooo ...        .
Innteresting.        .

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Friday, February 9, 2018 10:01 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


authorities have found a mass of child pornography on his computer, according to authorities.
https://www.theroot.com/police-discover-child-pornography-on-las-vegas
-shooter-1822262176


Judge orders release of recordings from night of Las Vegas shooting
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/judge-orders-release-of-
recordings-from-night-of-las-vegas-shooting
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Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:43 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Las Vegas: Police responds to Caesars Palace as 'armed' man barricades himself in hotel room

https://news.sky.com/video/las-vegas-police-responds-to-caesars-palace
-as-armed-man-barricades-himself-in-hotel-room-12919406

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