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Let's focus on Russia!

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Tuesday, January 2, 2018 2:30 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Apparently SECOND, THUGR, GSTRING are all willing to get huffy about partisan issues, but none of them are willing to discuss REAL WORLD events, where issues like debt and military technology are important. - SIGNY

Sure we do comrade sig. We just don't share your russian perspective on these things. - THUGR



My guess is that you don't have ANY perspective on these things, because you simply can't think about real things in realistic ways.





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Tuesday, January 2, 2018 4:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Take away Maddow and Olbermann and unplug them from their smartphones and watch them drool all over themselves.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 1:53 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


The financial connections between Trump and various Russian banks and oligarchs (business elites with ties to the Kremlin) stretch back decades, which is likely a big reason why Trump won’t release his tax returns.

This doesn't start with the election; it starts with Russian oligarch money pouring into Trump's real estate and casino businesses. Many of them Trump has been working with for years, well before he developed any serious political ambitions. And we’re not talking about small change here; we’re talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. Possibly even enough to keep Trump out of another bankruptcy.

We know because they’ve told us. Donald Trump Jr. has already admitted the importance of Russian money to their business ventures. He said publicly in 2008 that "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia." It doesn’t get much clearer than that.

Prevezon is a holding company with links to Russian elites that has been accused of laundering hundreds of millions of dollars through New York City real estate. It's also part of Hermitage Capital, an investment fund that was being investigated by Magnitsky (the Russian lawyer who was killed in a Moscow prison in 2009) more than 10 years ago.

Prevezon was part of this giant tax fraud scheme that Magnitsky uncovered in 2008, which led to his death and which led indirectly to the Magnitsky Act of 2012. The U.S. Attorney’s Office was also preparing a massive case against Prevezon last year. Until it was abruptly dropped.

Prevezon’s lawyer was Natalia Veselnitskaya, who of course met with Trump Jr. last year. She had been pushing for a long time to get something done about the Prevezon case. So it's very possible that she went into that meeting with Trump Jr essentially asking for help, in return for which she would give the Trump campaign dirt on Hillary and the DNC.

Several months after Trump takes office, the Prevezon case is dismissed. So what happened? The U.S. attorney was carefully preparing a case against Prevezon Holdings. They were all set to go forward, and then suddenly the case was settled. Prevezon's own lawyers were kind of shocked. We know they paid something like $6 million, which is a fraction of what the lawsuit was about. So they were extremely happy about it.

Do we have any evidence that Trump was involved in any way with Prevezon? We know is that Preet Bharara, the attorney in charge of the case, was fired by Trump in early March, and shortly thereafter the Prevezon case was dropped. They had been ready to prosecute, witnesses were flown in, it was all set to go, and it was settled rather unexpectedly. So I think this is a case that hasn't really entered the public consciousness yet. But I'm sure that special counsel Robert Mueller's team is looking at it.

The thing about which Trump’s been most consistent is the desire to make money. And if we take that, then his consistency on Russia becomes much more sensible.

www.vox.com/2017/7/18/15983910/donald-trump-russia-putin-fbi-collusion
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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 3:21 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Steve Bannon says he thinks Trump Jr.’s meeting with a Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya in search of dirt on Hillary Clinton was “treasonous,” speculates that Trump may have been involved in the meeting too, and asserts that Jared Kushner is involved in some “greasy” business that could expose him to money laundering charges.

Not only did all this cut against Trump’s denials of wrongdoing in the Russia scandal but it openly insulted Trump’s family members as well. “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV,” Bannon is quoted saying.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bann
on-michael-wolff


So this afternoon, Trump released a furious statement in response. “Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my Presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind,” the statement reads in part. “Steve doesn’t represent my base — he’s only in it for himself.”

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-03/trump-says-bannon-lost-his-
mind-after-leaving-white-house

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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... because there's no way in hell that $100 is a "living wage."- SIGNY

Exactly! So it follows that those people are not sole providers or living alone off that wage. - G


Well, thank you GSTRING for proving my point. "Having a job" is NOT "all that counts".


Thanks for misquoting again - you can't seem to break your lying habit. I said it was the most important thing. You can't get paid if you don't have a job. You do understand that, right?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There ARE people working 1-39 hours a week,


still sticking with that "1 hour a week" nothing thing, huh? You're a complete idiot.
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IF the job wages and hours of the "recovery" had stayed the same relative to before the collapse, then the "unemployment" figures would be a realistic reflection of "how people are doing". But because of Obamacare which encourages less-than-30-hour-a-week jobs; the rise of "temping" and "gig economy"; and the loss of manufacturing; MOST of the jobs added have been low-wage/ part time jobs which simply can't support a single person, let alone a family.


Wow - cites on all that?
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So we come to "proof of the pudding" measures about the "employment" situation in Indiana, which is: Are wages rising? Are young people able to get out of mom and dad's basement? Is the poverty rate going down?


How many people do you think are living in their parents' basement btw? Do you think it's worse now than it was in the past? Loosing manufactuering? Don't you think we've been through shifts in job types in the past? Look what the car did to stage coach drivers.

https://www.mckinsey.com/global-themes/future-of-organizations-and-wor
k/what-the-future-of-work-will-mean-for-jobs-skills-and-wages


That does seem fair ignorant, but about in line with normal levels of Libtard ignorance.

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