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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 7:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
So what the hell is going on? I believe that when it comes to Trump and the world, it’s not better than you think. It’s worse. The president is not playing the leadership role the rest of the world has come to expect from the United States, and the consequences are piling up.



Gee. It's almost as if we should give the option to declare war back to Congress and not allow the President to do it, huh?

Something a lot of you had my back on during the GWB years, but somehow didn't have any problem with when Obama was doing it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
So what the hell is going on? I believe that when it comes to Trump and the world, it’s not better than you think. It’s worse. The president is not playing the leadership role the rest of the world has come to expect from the United States, and the consequences are piling up.



Gee. It's almost as if we should give the option to declare war back to Congress and not allow the President to do it, huh?

Something a lot of you had my back on during the GWB years, but somehow didn't have any problem with when Obama was doing it.

The difference is summed up in a tweet where Trump shows he is nuts, while Obama is not. By the way, this tweet was on the front page of the Houston Chronicle :
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North Korean Leader Kim Jong Un just stated that the “Nuclear Button is on his desk at all times.” Will someone from his depleted and food starved regime please inform him that I too have a Nuclear Button, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than his, and my Button works!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/948355557022420992

The newspaper explains why Trump is crazy: Trump’s combative response to a statement made in recent days by Kim raised the temperature in the brewing confrontation between the United States and North Korea even as American allies in South Korea were moving to open talks with Pyongyang. The contrast between Trump’s language and the peace overture by South Korea highlighted the growing rift between two longtime allies.

The president’s saber-rattling tweet shifted the tenor of his response to the South Korean initiative just hours after a milder initial statement. Trump, who has scorned the prospects of negotiating with North Korea, earlier in the day said the possible talks between the two governments on the peninsula resulted from sanctions imposed by the United States and the international community. “Perhaps that is good news, perhaps not — we will see” he wrote Tuesday morning.

Why Trump hardened his message later the same day was not immediately clear. I disagree with the newspaper. It is clear that Trump is dizzy in the head and completely nuts.

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 10:32 AM

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I had to think about this for awhile. 6ixStringJack, you really are over committed to defending Trump. I've taken money from a bad man, same as Trump's ghostwriter, but he hasn't run for President. If he does run, I wouldn't bad-mouth him like the ghostwriter. I'd murder him and dispose of the body exactly at the same time as a dead cow. Both would never to be seen again.
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Originally posted by second:
How about the alternative explanation? Trump has successfully practiced lying to people to swindle them for 33 years? Trump's ghostwriter, who wrote Trump's autobiography knows this because he listened to thousands of phone calls of Trump swindling people.



Maybe that's all true. I'm not buying it from that tainted source though.

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And Trump lied to you to get your vote?


What's your point? So did every politician ever. Including your beloved Hillary.

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You are calling Malcolm Reynolds a whore.


No. I'm not. You are.

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I’m sure Mal would have accepted royalty payments from the book publisher of Patience’s autobiography, but he’s not working for her again, after what he’s seen. “I do the job. And then I get paid,” said both Malcolm Reynolds and Trump’s ghostwriter. “Go run your little world.” Then Mal never again works for Trump. Or Patience. Because they’re reprehensible people.


I believe that mal would be a writer of books as much as I believe that Jayne would be.

It's possible that Simon or Book could have written Patiences' biography, but they never would have because of their integrity.

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Once again, Trump's ghostwriter for his "autobiography" turned down Trump's offer for a second book where he could make twice as much as before, but the ghostwriter is not an idiot.


Citation needed on the not an idiot part. He took the money with a clear conscious for 28 years and only in mid-2016 did he feel it was blood money? How convenient after cashing over 1.5 million dollars of blood money without any remorse.

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He takes the royalties NOT from Trump but from the book company.


So what? So why does he call it blood money now?

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He did the job. And then he gets paid. I am sure Mal would tell the 'Verse that Patience is a crook if she was running for President.


I don't think he would. Mal's an anti-hero. Not as far on the spectrum as Snake Plisken, for sure, but unless Patience winning the Presidency was going to negatively effect him or any of his crew, he wouldn't open his mouth about shit. Especially because it would put a spotlight on what a whore he would have been.... or just put a spotlight on him in general.

I think you need to re-watch Firefly. You don't seem to actually know anything about the characters.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 11:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
The difference is summed up in a tweet where Trump shows he is nuts, while Obama is not.



There is no difference.

Maybe next time a politician you like does something that you don't agree with, you should remember that it sets a precedent for when a president you don't like is running the show.

It's the same advice I gave to supporters of GWB, and the "I told you so" I gave them when Obama did it. It's the same advice I give supporters of Obama and the "I told you so" I give them now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 11:12 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
I had to think about this for awhile. 6ixStringJack, you really are over committed to defending Trump.



Explain how you came to that conclusion. Because the rest of your post doesn't.

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I've taken money from a bad man,


Oh. I bet you have.

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same as Trump's ghostwriter,


Probably not the same.

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but he hasn't run for President.


Okay. So that makes it okay?

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If he does run, I wouldn't bad-mouth him like the ghostwriter. I'd murder him and dispose of the body exactly at the same time as a dead cow. Both would never to be seen again.


Oh yeah. I'm sure everybody here believes that.

You won't even part with the large tax windfall you'll be getting thanks to Trump and give it to charity for the 99% of people you virtue signal all day long to.

We're supposed to believe you'd risk your over-privlidged, elitist lifestyle to murder somebody running for president that you don't like?

Why didn't you do it when Trump was running? There's really nothing new that you know about him today that you didn't know now. You're equating Trump to the "bad man" you whored yourself out for when you have absolutely no excuses for your behavior when you did so (ie: you already had a ton of money).

You are so full of shit it's becoming comical now.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 3:56 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by second:
It’s worse. The president is not playing the leadership role the rest of the world has come to expect from the United States, and the consequences are piling up.

Wait, Obama is in Office again?
I thought the 8 years of leadership avoidance was behind us!

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:32 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The difference is summed up in a tweet where Trump shows he is nuts, while Obama is not.



There is no difference.

Maybe next time a politician you like does something that you don't agree with, you should remember that it sets a precedent for when a president you don't like is running the show.

It's the same advice I gave to supporters of GWB, and the "I told you so" I gave them when Obama did it. It's the same advice I give supporters of Obama and the "I told you so" I give them now.

When you give an answer such as you have, I think you were meant to live in an Ivory Tower on a major University campus. You're so philosophical, with your absolute rules, and so out of touch. Trump is gross incompetence: Trump let a Reporter in the Oval Office. What Could Go Wrong? A Great Deal, which you can read about at http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/michael-wolff-fire-and-fu
ry-book-donald-trump.html

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Thursday, January 4, 2018 6:57 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You are so full of shit it's becoming comical now.

Trump was valuable to me alive. I lose money with him dead.

Trump had a 50/50 chance of winning and I was 100% certain he’d sign a tax cut for the top 1%. With Hillary I was certain to never get a tax cut. If Trump wins, I get a tax cut. If Hillary wins, I voted for the winner. Then there is the entertainment value:

Trump Threatens to Sue Bannon in Fight to Crown Washington’s Alpha Chimp. It's a classic Trumpian feces-flinging brawl. And you accuse me of being full of shit. I bet Trump does not sue Bannon.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/01/trump-threatens-to-sue-bannon-i
n-fight-to-crown-washingtons-alpha-chimp
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Thursday, January 4, 2018 7:41 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
When you give an answer such as you have, I think you were meant to live in an Ivory Tower on a major University campus.



I'll trade you my paid for house for your Ivory Tower.

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You're so philosophical, with your absolute rules, and so out of touch.


I don't deal in absolutes. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, once again.

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Trump is gross incompetence.



Talk about absolutes. That's what you've said since day one.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, January 4, 2018 7:41 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You are so full of shit it's becoming comical now.

Trump was valuable to me alive. I lose money with him dead.

Trump had a 50/50 chance of winning and I was 100% certain he’d sign a tax cut for the top 1%. With Hillary I was certain to never get a tax cut. If Trump wins, I get a tax cut. If Hillary wins, I voted for the winner. Then there is the entertainment value:

Trump Threatens to Sue Bannon in Fight to Crown Washington’s Alpha Chimp. It's a classic Trumpian feces-flinging brawl. And you accuse me of being full of shit. I bet Trump does not sue Bannon.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/01/trump-threatens-to-sue-bannon-i
n-fight-to-crown-washingtons-alpha-chimp/



Uh-huh...

Anybody who hasn't been keeping score, Second was just talking about how he would murder somebody and hide the body yesterday.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:14 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Clearly he cannot understand how devastating it is for Cow farting to continue unrelenting. Not only does it sometimes raises the Global Temps as much as a degree per century, but it also warms every celestial body in our Solar System, including Neptune when it is on the opposite side of the Sun, and the Sun itself. All bodies warm at the same time and rate as Earth, so it must be caused by man-made Global Warming. Has nothing to do with that glowing orange thing in the sky, which is rumored to alter temps by 40-60 degrees F regularly in a 24 Hour cycle.




That qualifies as one of the stupidest things ever posted here or anywhere else.

Congrats, you fucking simpering dipshit. Now I completely understand why Trump's dick is in your mouth.

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Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Clearly he cannot understand how devastating it is for Cow farting to continue unrelenting. Not only does it sometimes raises the Global Temps as much as a degree per century, but it also warms every celestial body in our Solar System, including Neptune when it is on the opposite side of the Sun, and the Sun itself. All bodies warm at the same time and rate as Earth, so it must be caused by man-made Global Warming. Has nothing to do with that glowing orange thing in the sky, which is rumored to alter temps by 40-60 degrees F regularly in a 24 Hour cycle.




That qualifies as one of the stupidest things ever posted here or anywhere else.

Congrats, you fucking simpering dipshit. Now I completely understand why Trump's dick is in your mouth.



Don't be so modest Kwicko. I'd say this follow up might be in the running. It's at least among the stupidest things I've seen posted here.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 1:24 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Trump has everyone on the planet beat for stupid inane babble today... Even JSF.


THIS WAS HIS ANSWER TO "Will you meet with Robert Mueller... with or without special parameters?"



Trump: "Well, again John, there has been no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russians or Trump and Russians. No collusion. When I watch you interviewing all the people leaving their committees, I mean, the Democrats are all running for office, trying to say this that -- but bottom line, they all say there's no collusion. And there is no collusion.
"And when you talk about interviews, Hillary Clinton had an interview, where she wasn't sworn in, she wasn't given the oath, they didn't take notes, they didn't record and it was done on the 4th of July weekend. That's perhaps ridiculous and a lot of people looked upon that as being a very serious breach and it really was.
"But again I'll speak to attorneys -- I can only say this, there was absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. Every committee -- I've been in office now for 11 months. For 11 months, they've had this phony cloud over this administration, over our government. And it has hurt our government. It does hurt our government. It's a Democrat hoax that was brought up as an excuse for losing an election that frankly the Democrats should have won because they have such a tremendous advantage in the electoral college.
"So it was brought up for that reason. But it has been determined that there is no collusion and by virtually everybody. So we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. I mean certainly we'll see what happens -- when they have no collusion and nobody's found any collusion at any level it seems unlikely that you'd even have an interview."
So it was brought up for that reason. But it has been determined that there is no collusion and by virtually everybody. So we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. I mean certainly we'll see what happens -- when they have no collusion and nobody's found any collusion at any level it seems unlikely that you'd even have an interview."



WHO THE HELL TALKS LIKE THAT THAT ISN'T DERANGED???

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 1:42 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I think somebody who uses Twitter too much talks like that.

It does sound like just about every sentence or three could be cut and pasted into tweets.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:19 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


And I think you are trying REALLY DAMN HARD to find a justification for someone to be that bloody incoherent.

Taking lessons from the Russian trolls now?

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:40 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Trump talks like a NYC street huckster. Well, he IS a NYC street huckster. I guess being a NYC street huckster is a reasonable justification for talking like one.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:16 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
And I think you are trying REALLY DAMN HARD to find a justification for someone to be that bloody incoherent.

Taking lessons from the Russian trolls now?



Really? You do?

I think people who use Twitter are fucking idiots.

So go fuck yourself wishy.

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 7:45 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


This is a Simpleton in Chief story:

After months of chiding NFL players for disrespecting our National Anthem, President Trump finally got his chance to show them how it's done.
Trump Sings The National Anthem



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:16 AM

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This is a Liar in Chief story:

Hundreds to be laid off at Indiana factory a year after Trump deal to save jobs
www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-indiana-factory-trump-deal-20180110
-story.html


A new round of layoffs is taking effect this week at the Carrier Corp. factory in Indianapolis a little more than a year after President Donald Trump touted a deal that staved off the plant's closure and saved some of its jobs.

About 215 people are being let go starting Thursday, leaving about 1,100 workers at the plant, according to the company. That's down from the some 1,600 factory, office and engineering jobs at the facility when Carrier announced plans in early 2016 to move production to Mexico.

This week's previously announced layoffs follow about 340 job cuts at the factory in July.

Trump frequently criticized Carrier's plant closing plans during the 2016 campaign. He traveled to the Indianapolis factory three weeks after his election win to announce a tax-incentive agreement partially reversing the closure and keeping some 800 furnace production jobs.

Retired United Steelworkers Local 1999 President Chuck Jones, who was chastised by a Trump tweet after complaining that Trump gave false hope to Carrier workers by inflating the number of jobs being saved, said the president hasn't followed up on his campaign talk of stopping the country's loss of manufacturing jobs.

"We haven't seen anything that would indicate that he plans on living up to those promises and commitments," Jones said.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:04 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Trump has everyone on the planet beat for stupid inane babble today... Even JSF.


THIS WAS HIS ANSWER TO "Will you meet with Robert Mueller... with or without special parameters?"



Trump: "Well, again John, there has been no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russians or Trump and Russians. No collusion. When I watch you interviewing all the people leaving their committees, I mean, the Democrats are all running for office, trying to say this that -- but bottom line, they all say there's no collusion. And there is no collusion.
"And when you talk about interviews, Hillary Clinton had an interview, where she wasn't sworn in, she wasn't given the oath, they didn't take notes, they didn't record and it was done on the 4th of July weekend. That's perhaps ridiculous and a lot of people looked upon that as being a very serious breach and it really was.
"But again I'll speak to attorneys -- I can only say this, there was absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. Every committee -- I've been in office now for 11 months. For 11 months, they've had this phony cloud over this administration, over our government. And it has hurt our government. It does hurt our government. It's a Democrat hoax that was brought up as an excuse for losing an election that frankly the Democrats should have won because they have such a tremendous advantage in the electoral college.
"So it was brought up for that reason. But it has been determined that there is no collusion and by virtually everybody. So we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. I mean certainly we'll see what happens -- when they have no collusion and nobody's found any collusion at any level it seems unlikely that you'd even have an interview."
So it was brought up for that reason. But it has been determined that there is no collusion and by virtually everybody. So we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. I mean certainly we'll see what happens -- when they have no collusion and nobody's found any collusion at any level it seems unlikely that you'd even have an interview."

WHO THE HELL TALKS LIKE THAT THAT ISN'T DERANGED???



Amazing, isn't it??? It's right there plain as day. He needs help not Micky D's.

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:10 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


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Originally posted by second:
This is a Simpleton in Chief story:

After months of chiding NFL players for disrespecting our National Anthem, President Trump finally got his chance to show them how it's done.
Trump Sings The National Anthem



The only thing more disgraceful was Newt Gingrich and Fux's "defense" of it.

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It still dosen't diminish what assholes the overpaid NFL players are.

I don't know why anybody watches any sports, let alone Football anymore. For what those idiots are getting paid they should legalize stereroids. I want to see super-human mutants out there. Home Run races to the thousands in a season.

League minimum in baseball is half a million dollars. $100,000k more than the President of the US gets. Think about that for a second. The very worst baseball players made more money than Obama did. No wonder why politicians are so corrupt.

Talk about a country with its priorities straight. Good old USA.

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 11:34 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


From 6ix:

Ramble ramble ramble, obfuscate. Ignore facts. Make shit up if you have to.

NFL players get brain damaged from what they do for a living...

What's YOUR excuse?

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Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:12 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Clearly he cannot understand how devastating it is for Cow farting to continue unrelenting. Not only does it sometimes raises the Global Temps as much as a degree per century, but it also warms every celestial body in our Solar System, including Neptune when it is on the opposite side of the Sun, and the Sun itself. All bodies warm at the same time and rate as Earth, so it must be caused by man-made Global Warming. Has nothing to do with that glowing orange thing in the sky, which is rumored to alter temps by 40-60 degrees F regularly in a 24 Hour cycle.




That qualifies as one of the stupidest things ever posted here or anywhere else.

Congrats, you fucking simpering dipshit. Now I completely understand why Trump's dick is in your mouth.



Congrats kwicko, you just validated what many of us here have been saying for a long time now. It's also why some don't respond to JFS.


JEWELSTAITEFAN



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Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:38 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
From 6ix:

Ramble ramble ramble, obfuscate. Ignore facts. Make shit up if you have to.

NFL players get brain damaged from what they do for a living...

What's YOUR excuse?



What part of that post did I make up?

Be specific.

What's your point that NFL players get brain damaged?

How does that legitimatize that the worst players in Baseball get paid more than the US President does?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, January 12, 2018 2:00 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


I'm not biting on your distraction. I couldn't give a damn about the NFL, or baseball salaries.

Looking at your rambling incoherent shit from the last five years, it really shouldn't surprise anyone that you'd make excuses for Trump being a rambling incoherent shithead.

You don't have enough brain cells left to fill a thimble between you both.

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Friday, January 12, 2018 4:21 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trust me Princess, it's not an attempt to distract you from Trump. No force in the world is going to do that to you and a few others here. You're hyper focused on that. Good little doggies doing whatever the media tells you to do.

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Friday, January 12, 2018 9:08 AM

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Trump’s “I Am Not a Moron” Tour: A Report Card

Stung by Michael Wolff’s portrayal of him as a childlike idiot in Fire and Fury, Trump embarked on a series of public events this week designed to show the country that he’s well briefed and in command of his administration. How’s that going?

Tuesday morning: Holds televised roundtable on immigration. Agrees to abandon his immigration plan and adopt the Democrats’ plan instead until Kevin McCarthy interrupts to correct him. Grade: D

Thursday morning: After watching Fox & Friends, tweets that he opposes extension of warrantless surveillance, something that his administration has been pushing for weeks. This sends Congress into a temporary tizzy until an aide tells Trump what he’s done. Grade: F

Thursday afternoon: In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, insists that DACA and Dreamers are different things and he wants everyone to get that straight. In fact, they are the exact same thing. Grade: F

The week isn’t over yet.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/01/donald-trumps-i-am-not-a-moron-
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Friday, January 12, 2018 9:41 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Melania: "Donald, dear, wen can I go back to the Tower?"

Don: "Therez no colusion! Even the Democrats say no colusion. Everybody knowz there iz no colusion."

Wite House chef: "Wut do you want for brekfast today, Mr. Prezident?"

Don: "No colusion at all! Zero evidens uv colusion found in a yir uv investigation. Muellerz team sez no colusion."

Andrea Mitchel: "Wuts your polisy on the human rites situation in Darfur, Mr. Prezident?"

Don: "No evidens uv colusion PERIOD! ZERO! NADA! ZIPPO! No colusion
wutsoever! Everybody sez no colusion!"

Putin: "How you doing on thoze sanctionz, Donny boy?"

Don: "We're working on it, sir. The entire team hammering away 24/7."

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Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:46 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


That's probably much closer than you think...


I honestly feel like I've stepped in an alternate dimension of looney tunes land.

Half the people here are so far removed from logical thought.. it's just... stunning.

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Saturday, January 13, 2018 6:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trust me Princess, it's not an attempt to distract you from Trump. No force in the world is going to do that to you and a few others here. You're hyper focused on that. Good little doggies doing whatever the media tells you to do.

You might focus on this news story that the Trump administration's solution to the problem of war is to build newer nukes. I don't think another President would buy the idea the Pentagon is selling:

Trump’s administration could pursue development of new nuclear weaponry and explicitly leave open the possibility of nuclear retaliation for major non-nuclear attacks, if a leaked draft policy document becomes reality.

www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-nuclear/new-trump-policy-could-strength
en-role-of-nuclear-weapons-idUSKBN1F202N


Obama declared his intent to reduce the role of nuclear weapons in his Nuclear Posture Review in 2010, the last time the policy document was crafted.

The Trump administration’s draft document, said, however, that Obama-era assumptions of a world where nuclear weapons were less relevant proved incorrect.

“The world is more dangerous, not less,” it said.

It more readily embraces the role of nuclear weapons as a deterrent to adversaries, and, as expected, backs a costly modernization of the aging U.S. nuclear arsenal.

A draft Of Trump’s Nuclear Review is at the bottom of this page:
www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-nuclear-posture-review-2018_us_5a4d
4773e4b06d1621bce4c5


Personally, Trump needs to be able to write down his basic thesis (newer nukes means more peace) and the evidence behind it and then defend it. In fact, the more power Trump holds, the more accountable Trump needs to be to open himself to honest challenge on either his facts or his logic. Trump needs to carefully show why adding more and newer nukes to the world makes the world less dangerous. I suggest Trump will have to explode on enemy cities some of his old nukes if he wants to gather facts to justify buying better, newer nukes.


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Saturday, January 13, 2018 8:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, January 13, 2018 8:10 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Obama declared his intent to reduce the role of nuclear weapons in his Nuclear Posture Review in 2010, the last time the policy document was crafted.
Once gain, cupcake, you confuse what Obama SAID with what Obama DID.

No wonder you're confused! You believe someone who lied morning, noon, and night. Take the halo off your exalted brown saint; Obama was just as corrupt as Bush.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

America is an oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Saturday, January 13, 2018 10:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Obama declared his intent to reduce the role of nuclear weapons in his Nuclear Posture Review in 2010, the last time the policy document was crafted.
Once gain, cupcake, you confuse what Obama SAID with what Obama DID.

No wonder you're confused! You believe someone who lied morning, noon, and night. Take the halo off your exalted brown saint; Obama was just as corrupt as Bush.

I wouldn't want you to be confused about Presidential corruption or misleading statements. Does this confuse? Trump sold $1.5 billion of condos to potential money launderers. https://qz.com/1178875

As President, Trump should be opposed to income tax evasion and also to converting money from criminals into legitimate income. But as a real estate tycoon, Trump can aid those with dirty money. And he isn't the only tycoon who can launder criminal money. Trump needs to pick a side. Is he the President? Or is he a money launder? I know he can be both, but he should not straddle that fence.

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Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Once gain, cupcake, you confuse what Obama SAID with what Obama DID.

No wonder you're confused! You believe someone who lied morning, noon, and night. Take the halo off your exalted brown saint; Obama was just as corrupt as Bush.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/13/nuclear-policy-review-wa
r-risk
. . . every president since Truman has promised to rain fire and fury on the adversary. He cites 25 instances when presidents furtively thought to issue nuclear ultimatums.

Richard Nixon learned his nuclear “madman” statecraft from the master of brinksmanship, Dwight Eisenhower. Jimmy Carter very nearly brought us to a third world war thanks to the forward-deployed Pershings of PD (presidential directive) 59. Before his Reykjavik volte-face, Ronald Reagan threatened to lob one into the Kremlin. George W Bush was gung-ho to develop nuclear bunker busters for use against Iran. Even Barack Obama couldn’t come to relinquish that first-use “option”, notwithstanding his abhorrence of nuclear weapons.

But nuclear deterrence is a fraud. It doesn’t prevent wars, it prevents nuclear wars (so far) that would not be possible if nuclear weapons were abolished. The deterrent arsenal’s real utility has been to provide our presidents with the opportunity to threaten nuclear war, and therefore it must always be promoted as plausible that the US uses nuclear weapons first.

Even Obama’s pledge in 2009 to reduce the nuclear stockpile to zero was not matched by a pledge of no first-use. Moreover, the trillion dollar “modernization” of the strategic triad begun in earnest in 2010 gave ironic meaning to Obama saying in a major 2009 speech that while he would want to abolish nuclear weapons, it would likely not happen “in my lifetime”.

. . . Thank Trump for letting the American people in on the dirty secret of nuclear weapons, for making that choice as graphic as it has ever been.

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Saturday, January 13, 2018 8:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
As President, Trump should be opposed to income tax evasion and also to converting money from criminals into legitimate income. But as a real estate tycoon, Trump can aid those with dirty money. And he isn't the only tycoon who can launder criminal money. Trump needs to pick a side. Is he the President? Or is he a money launder? I know he can be both, but he should not straddle that fence.



Two Words.

Clinton Foundation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:31 AM

THGRRI


Some here, just a few, by virtue of their logic, believe Trump should get away with whatever laws he may have broken, and instead find something to stick to the Clintons.

In other words, they're stupid. Now, we can't change that, so it's unlikely anyone can get them to see how stupid and dishonest their stance makes them look.

Nor do I believe they have the conscious or forethought to feel shame for being so biased and ignorant. Oh well...

T

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:34 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


My pointing out time and again how corrupt Hillary is has nothing in the slightest to do with defending Trump. I have absolutely no power or influence. As I've said many times before, if he's guilty, string him up by his toes for it.

I'm once again merely pointing out the outrageous hypocrisy on display by some people such as yourself and Second on a daily basis here.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
As President, Trump should be opposed to income tax evasion and also to converting money from criminals into legitimate income. But as a real estate tycoon, Trump can aid those with dirty money. And he isn't the only tycoon who can launder criminal money. Trump needs to pick a side. Is he the President? Or is he a money launder? I know he can be both, but he should not straddle that fence.



Two Words.

Clinton Foundation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Records show that more than 1,300 Trump condominiums were bought not by people but by shell companies, and that the purchases were made without a mortgage, avoiding inquiries from lenders. The secretive, all-cash transactions shield buyers from legal scrutiny of their finances and identities.
www.buzzfeed.com/thomasfrank/secret-money-how-trump-made-millions-sell
ing-condos-to


Trump has never declined to take money from a crook using a fake ID and Trump’s sales records are secret. On the other hand, the Clinton Foundation has refused to take money from crooks. And the records are public.

To discover how crooked Trump is, you have to check property deeds filed with local governments when condos are sold for cash from crooks to Trump.

Pay with a suitcase full of money? That’s okay with Trump, but state government won’t let Trump skip the step of at least giving the phony name of dummy companies buying condos. And since he became President, he is selling a lot more condos.

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:49 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:Take the halo off your exalted brown saint; Obama was just as corrupt as Bush.



Why did you feel the need to state the color of his skin??? Oh, right...

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:55 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by G:

Why did you feel the need to state the color of his skin??? Oh, right...

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“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy... I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” - Joe Biden

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 10:58 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Trump has everyone on the planet beat for stupid inane babble today... Even JSF.

THIS WAS HIS ANSWER TO "Will you meet with Robert Mueller... with or without special parameters?"


Trump: "Well, again John, there has been no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russians or Trump and Russians. No collusion. When I watch you interviewing all the people leaving their committees, I mean, the Democrats are all running for office, trying to say this that -- but bottom line, they all say there's no collusion. And there is no collusion.
"And when you talk about interviews, Hillary Clinton had an interview, where she wasn't sworn in, she wasn't given the oath, they didn't take notes, they didn't record and it was done on the 4th of July weekend. That's perhaps ridiculous and a lot of people looked upon that as being a very serious breach and it really was.
"But again I'll speak to attorneys -- I can only say this, there was absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. Every committee -- I've been in office now for 11 months. For 11 months, they've had this phony cloud over this administration, over our government. And it has hurt our government. It does hurt our government. It's a Democrat hoax that was brought up as an excuse for losing an election that frankly the Democrats should have won because they have such a tremendous advantage in the electoral college.
"So it was brought up for that reason. But it has been determined that there is no collusion and by virtually everybody. So we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. I mean certainly we'll see what happens -- when they have no collusion and nobody's found any collusion at any level it seems unlikely that you'd even have an interview."
So it was brought up for that reason. But it has been determined that there is no collusion and by virtually everybody. So we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. I mean certainly we'll see what happens -- when they have no collusion and nobody's found any collusion at any level it seems unlikely that you'd even have an interview."



WHO THE HELL TALKS LIKE THAT THAT ISN'T DERANGED???

And yet, despite his New Yawker speech degrading his apparent coherence, he still sounds 5 times more coherent, conversational, and literate than Bobo the Bumbling Babbler.

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

And yet, despite his New Yawker speech degrading his apparent coherence, he still sounds 5 times more coherent, conversational, and literate than Bobo the Bumbling Babbler.

Trump is pretty smart. He knows that buying a Trump condo with cash lets criminals bypass anti-money laundering reviews that banks have to make when approving mortgages. Trump is not reviewing, either. He's got a guy to do the review of cash purchases, but the guy has never turned down a sale to anybody. [sarcasm] Criminals laundering money never even try to buy a Trump condo because of Trump's reputation for honesty and integrity. [/sarcasm]

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:11 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Obama declared his intent to reduce the role of nuclear weapons in his Nuclear Posture Review in 2010, the last time the policy document was crafted.
Once gain, cupcake, you confuse what Obama SAID with what Obama DID.

No wonder you're confused! You believe someone who lied morning, noon, and night. Take the halo off your exalted brown saint; Obama was just as corrupt as Bush.

I wouldn't want you to be confused about Presidential corruption or misleading statements. Does this confuse? Trump sold $1.5 billion of condos to ...

Once again, right on point, the tip of the spear.
Trump SOLD condos !!
There oughtta be a law against that!

And he sold them for $1.5 Billion no less!!!!
There must be a crime there somewhere. It is so confusing to us simple-minded folk.

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 11:15 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
As President, Trump should be opposed to income tax evasion and also to converting money from criminals into legitimate income. But as a real estate tycoon, Trump can aid those with dirty money. And he isn't the only tycoon who can launder criminal money. Trump needs to pick a side. Is he the President? Or is he a money launder? I know he can be both, but he should not straddle that fence.



Two Words.

Clinton Foundation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

A voice of reason? In a thread like this, almost devoid of sense?

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Sunday, January 14, 2018 2:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

A voice of reason? In a thread like this, almost devoid of sense?

Trump has also had moments of extreme self-doubt. Biographer Harry Hurt described a period around 1990 when, as his marriage to Ivana Trump was breaking up, he occasionally spoke about suicide, according to friends and relatives.

Ivana Trump decided that the couple should see a psychiatrist. Her husband resisted at first but then agreed, telling her he'd go, "only if you think it will fix what's wrong with you," according to Hurt's 1993 book "Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump." Hurt reported that the future president attended only one session.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-‘genius’-of-trump-what-the-preside
nt-means-when-he-touts-his-smarts/ar-AAuE2TJ


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Sunday, January 14, 2018 2:57 PM

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Donald Trump and the horrible treason

Mr. Trump: What went on with the FBI, where a man is tweeting to his lover that if she loses, we’ll essentially go back to the -- we’ll go to the insurance policy, which is -- if they lose, we’ll go to phase 2, and we’ll get this guy out of office. I mean, this is the FBI we’re talking about. I think that is -- that is treason. See, that’s treason right there.

WSJ: Does any of that make you less...

Mr. Trump: By the way, that’s a treasonous act. What he tweeted to his lover is a treasonous act.

from The 17 Most Insane Moments from Trump's Unedited Wall Street Journal Interview
The president's narcissism, paranoia and incoherence almost defy words.
www.alternet.org/17-most-insane-moments-trumps-unedited-wall-street-jo
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Sunday, January 14, 2018 9:04 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Having members of the FBEYE, sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution, conspiring to 'do something' about a duly elected president, is at the very least, a breach of duty.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Monday, January 15, 2018 7:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Having members of the FBEYE, sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution, conspiring to 'do something' about a duly elected president, is at the very least, a breach of duty.

I checked. The agents of the FBI swear allegiance to the Constitution and not to a crooked President. (Trump has a history of being a crooked businessman. FBI agents with law degrees who can read know about his crookedness. Voters who can't read don't know.) There are hundreds of detailed words overlooked by 1kiki and Trump about the oath. I warn you that the FBI was worried that an authoritarian (the actual FBI mentioned Hitler) might be in the White House:
http://www2.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2009/september2009/oath.htm

Trump’s need for his business employees to swear a loyalty oath to him has got him into trouble as the crooked President:
www.mlive.com/news/us-world/index.ssf/2017/05/trump_comey_loyalty_pled
ge.html


Perhaps 1kiki is confused because the agents of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation swear their allegiance to Putin? A different country with different traditions about law enforcement being cozy and in love with the strongman at the apex of power.

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Monday, January 15, 2018 7:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
As President, Trump should be opposed to income tax evasion and also to converting money from criminals into legitimate income. But as a real estate tycoon, Trump can aid those with dirty money. And he isn't the only tycoon who can launder criminal money. Trump needs to pick a side. Is he the President? Or is he a money launder? I know he can be both, but he should not straddle that fence.



Two Words.

Clinton Foundation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

A voice of reason? In a thread like this, almost devoid of sense?



A thread devoid of any sense? I'm starting to wonder if reason has left the fff.net building altogether. Fucking people are turning into hyenas around here. I've never seen anything like it in my life before.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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