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Saturday, February 17, 2018 8:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol. You've done absolutely nothing. Your every action is meaningless. Your every thought is inconsequential. You very existence is superfluous. You are nothing.




Is he talking to the man in the mirror again?

Oh wait, calling it a "man" is presumptuous of me....

Well, at least he's making progress with his ego...



I see the three digit IQ is in overdrive today. Don't hurt yourself, Princess.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 17, 2018 9:58 PM

SIGNYM

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Hey sig, kiki. Did those two Russian trolls who visited California stay at one of your houses? Or, are you two those Russian trolls?

Is Mueller going to visit with you? Should someone here send him a link to one of our many threads. I'm sure he could recover G's lost threads. What do you think?- THUGR

I think you should. Then I'll sue your ass off.


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Saturday, February 17, 2018 10:46 PM

THGRRI

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Saturday, February 17, 2018 10:54 PM

WISHIMAY


If you see something, say something...right THG?

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Saturday, February 17, 2018 11:13 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
If this is the stuff of our nightmares, Americans are a pathetic, feeble-minded bunch.

Not all Americans, KIKI, just some.


Once again we see sig and kiki having to change their talking points. We started with them stating unequivocally that Russia did not do anything. Look where we are now. Things will continue to happen to prove what they and some others have been posting is just more Russian talking points.

Remember this thread sig, kiki? It looks like the NY Times was right. And it looks like G and I were as well. No surprise to me there. And there's really no surprise to you either is there comrades?

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60766#TOP

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html

T

Are you admitting that you are an outright liar, an incessant troll?

Provide evidence of an actual quote.

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Saturday, February 17, 2018 11:14 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


WISHI

Unless, of course, you make blatantly untrue statements on the internet - and that is something you CAN be sued for. BTW, the normal statute of limitations for internet libel is one year - unless the site is anonymous. In which case, in California, the statute of limitations is longer.

Care to try your luck?

BTW - it just occurred to me you, THUGGER, GEEBERS, and SECOND are such dumb fucks you failed to do the most basic search on your potential liability for statements you make here, under the mistaken ASSumption that since it's anonymous, you must be off the hook.

Actually, because the website IS anonymous, the hook you're on is bigger, and you've hooked yourself far more deeply than you know.

And every time you take what you ASSume is a freebie punch, you re-start the clock.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Saturday, February 17, 2018 11:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Hey sig, kiki. Did those two Russian trolls who visited California stay at one of your houses? Or, are you two those Russian trolls?

Is Mueller going to visit with you? Should someone here send him a link to one of our many threads. I'm sure he could recover G's lost threads. What do you think?



LOL... I'm sure Mueller would be even more interested in investigating two random posters that are in no way affiliated with Trump and have been posting here for over a decade on a random dying TV show fansite that gets about a dozen regular posters in the last year than Haken was.


Now I get the connection why T was wondering who owned FFF.net though. I didn't realize that it was because G's posts were deleted.

Brenda's were too. I'm not sure how that's going, but we've been told that the issue was being looked into. I wonder how many other people were effected by this. There might be some people who haven't posted here in years who's posts were all taken down.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:04 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I don't come here every day, sometimes not for a few weeks. I didn't realize there was this whole big story going on. (I caught that Brenda's posts had been deleted, but they were restored right away, I thought.)

Are you implying that T might have thought, or does think, Haken was, or is, a Russian troll? Up to nefarious no goodsky deeds? That DOES make sense of his post. I just thought it was his normally scrambled English, that veered into the inscrutable.




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:32 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


That's what I'm assuming at this point. It didn't make any sense to me before, but now that's what I'm thinking it was all about. I originally thought the thread was about contacting Haken to dox somebody or to get them kicked off this site, but as it went on I didn't think that was the point of it at all.

Brenda's posts weren't put back up. At least they weren't in the Garden and Rain topic. She also used to have River as her avatar and now it's Inara, so I'm assuming that she's using an entirely different account and doesn't even have access to her old account yet. This would also explain why G is using the CC account instead of G.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:48 AM

JO753

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I wunder if our fave debate opponents will disappear?

The inditement mentionz paid Americanz. They coud be rounded up even tho the Russianz never will be.

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:55 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by JO753:
I wunder if our fave debate opponents will disappear?




Kiki and Sig do protesteth a bunch here, don't they? Almost threatening us if we turn them in...

That right there says Russian Troll more than ANYTHING they've ever said.

I mean, if you really WEREN'T one, wouldn't you say "Sure, go ahead, I dare ya?"

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:59 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


In case you didn't get the message, troll, you can be sued for libel on the internet. And, in California where I live, posting on an anonymous site makes the statute of limitations longer - even indefinite, in some cases.

So the question you really need to ask yourself is - do you want to make it worth my while to sue you?




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Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:57 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
In case you didn't get the message, troll, you can be sued for libel on the internet. And, in California where I live, posting on an anonymous site makes the statute of limitations longer - even indefinite, in some cases.

So the question you really need to ask yourself is - do you want to make it worth my while to sue you?

Please do.
Please do.

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:36 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Just a reminder to trolls - the trolling you do today - can be held against you years from now. Don't feel safe.




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Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:39 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?




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Sunday, February 18, 2018 3:49 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

What topic are you referring to?
The title of this thread seems to just be about a Press Release for hype about Mueller's Witch Hunt and Fishing Expedition.
What were you thinking?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:49 AM

JO753

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
In case you didn't get the message, troll, you can be sued for libel on the internet.



The evidens woud show 1 uv 4 thingz:

1. You are a Russian troll.

Your libel case gets tossed. Your identity iz revealed and this forum gets entered into evidens agenst Trump & Putin (if it haznt alredy). Plus it'l probably make the newz.

2. You are an American, or sum other nonRussian sitizen being payed by the Russianz.

Same rezult az 1, plus you go to jail.

3. Youre just a nut who got duped into believing the Fox and RT propaganda.

Youre libel case proseedz. It iz shown that any reazonable person woud conclude that you were working for the benefit uv the Russianz, so you looze the case.

4. You intentionally led the defendant to believ you are a Russian troll.

The case goes to trial. You looze and are then charjed with malishus intent to desiev for profit and go to jail. If you did it in co-ordination with your frendz here, its conspirasy, so you all go to jail longer.


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Sunday, February 18, 2018 6:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Or anybody who believes that Sigs and Kiki is a Russian troll is an idiot.

That's also an option.



And "if it hasn't already". Jesus Christ the egos of some of the people on this site. Nobody in the world could give a shit less what you or I or anybody else posts here.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:20 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You immediately jumped to blame Trump - even tho he wasn't anywhere near the Presidency for much of that time - and slid right by Obama's responsibility.



Wrong of course. I blame Trump for saying it was a hoax when he had be briefed several times about this from his Intel agencies from the moment he took office, and he chose - probably because of conceit and hubris - to ignore and down play and even belittle them. And when these indictments came out what did Trump say? "I did nothing wrong!" It wasn't even about HIM until he made it so! What a dumb f*ck.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Whether the intelligence communities were telling Obama the truth or not, he DID get some communication about that, at least in late 2016.



Which he said he didn't reveal because he didn't want to influence the election, which honestly shows what a principled man he was and what a tool he could be as well. I bet looking back he wishes he hadn't.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
TRUMP was not cheating.



How do you know?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:57 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?



Hey, thanks for reminding me... how do you know there was no collusion?

If nothing else these indictments prove that none of us know what Mueller knows - wouldn't you agree? I've asked you several times and you haven't answered.

Also: it amazes me how many Trump True Believers think there's no collusion because Mueller didn't release his findings within a week of being assigned. They don't seem to understand the nature or the process of how this works.

It also amazes me how many TTBs assume people who want to see Trump removed from office don't know that "collusion" isn't necessarily a crime. That's old news. I believe a few lawyerly types have said one of the things this indictment does is start defining what the illegality framework would be in a larger case.

Just because this indictment doesn't name anyone in Trump's sphere or the campaign doesn't mean a future indictment won't. I'm shocked how simple people (Trump) can think this let's him off the hook or some how proves his innocence.

I see him being tried for money laundering & obstruction of justice, though I'm sure he's done many, many other illegal things. And that's IF it can't be shown that he had knowledge of Russia's aid. If that can be shown he'll burn as a traitor, and his empire will implode. Wouldn't that be something?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 8:14 AM

SIGNYM

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Just because this indictment doesn't name anyone in Trump's sphere or the campaign doesn't mean a future indictment won't.
Actually what it says was that there was some UNWITTING contact between Trump staffers and these Russians. In other words, Team Trump had some contact with them but believed that they were who they said they were, and apparently whatever contact was made, nothing came of it anyway.

So Team Trump has been specifically exempted by this indictment from prosecution resulting from contact with THESE Russians. Maybe in future something else, but not this.

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 8:27 AM

SIGNYM

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I wunder if our fave debate opponents will disappear?

The inditement mentionz paid Americanz. They coud be rounded up even tho the Russianz never will be.

God, you're an even bigger idiot that I thought. You think that YOU'RE a logical open-minded kinda guy, and yet, when you run into a different perspective you shit your pants and hope somebody rounds it up? Sound kinda ... oh, I dunno.. fascistic, doesn't it?

WHY should we vote for you for President, again? Is is something about your support for free speech and democracy? (not)

Well, sorry stupid, but I know who I am, and I know I'm (a) not Russian (b) have no contact with Russians. So I guess I'll be here for a long time, and since I started posting in about 2002, I guess that means I'll be here longer than you!



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Sunday, February 18, 2018 8:38 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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In case you didn't get the message, troll, you can be sued for libel on the internet. - KIKI

The evidens woud show 1 uv 4 thingz:

1. You are a Russian troll.
Your libel case gets tossed. Your identity iz revealed and this forum gets entered into evidens agenst Trump & Putin (if it haznt alredy). Plus it'l probably make the newz.

THAT'LL never happen, so you can put this delusion of yours away in some far dark corner.

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2. You are an American, or sum other nonRussian sitizen being payed by the Russianz.
Same rezult az 1, plus you go to jail.

That'll ALSO never happen; this is just another delusion of yours.

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3. Youre just a nut who got duped into believing the Fox and RT propaganda.
Youre libel case proseedz. It iz shown that any reazonable person woud conclude that you were working for the benefit uv the Russianz, so you looze the case.

That's not how it works, so you can ditch THIS delusion as well.

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4. You intentionally led the defendant to believ you are a Russian troll.
The case goes to trial. You looze and are then charjed with malishus intent to desiev for profit and go to jail. If you did it in co-ordination with your frendz here, its conspirasy, so you all go to jail longer.

By saying, over and over again, that I'm not Russian, not in the pay of Russians, and don't even have any contact with Russians?

You're stupider than a sack of shit, did you know that?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 8:43 AM

SIGNYM

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Kiki and Sig do protesteth a bunch here, don't they? Almost threatening us if we turn them in...

That right there says Russian Troll more than ANYTHING they've ever said.

I mean, if you really WEREN'T one, wouldn't you say "Sure, go ahead, I dare ya?"

I think that's what I said. Something like "I think you should".

You should also think of the consequences. To you, not to me. If nothing else, I'm sure the FBI will appreciate you wasting their time. But I'm fine. I know who I am, it's YOU who is clinging to a delusion.


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Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:05 AM

THGRRI


Sig and kiki have been denying everything negative about Russia and claiming the reported news fake for years. From denying any type of involvement in the DNC hacking and the election, to denying they invaded Ukraine, as well as the atrocities of bombing hospitals and supporting a regime that gases women and children in Syria.

Sig likes to quote Russian controlled media and zerohedge, while stating all regular media is lying. Unless of course the reported news suits her, which is a rarity. The mainstream media eventually is proven true, and they act like it doesn't show them to be full of shit. Well it does.
Nothing new...

Tick tock



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Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:22 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Just because this indictment doesn't name anyone in Trump's sphere or the campaign doesn't mean a future indictment won't.
Actually what it says was that there was some UNWITTING contact between Trump staffers and these Russians. In other words, Team Trump had some contact with them but believed that they were who they said they were, and apparently whatever contact was made, nothing came of it anyway.

So Team Trump has been specifically exempted by this indictment from prosecution resulting from contact with THESE Russians. Maybe in future something else, but not this.




Are you a lawyer? Former district attorney? I think we're all in conjectureville as far as the far reaching implications of this indictment goes. Does it mean Flynn, Manafort, Poppy, Gates? Or others not yet indicted? You are free to make any guesses you want to of course.

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:28 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Just because this indictment doesn't name anyone in Trump's sphere or the campaign doesn't mean a future indictment won't.
Actually what it says was that there was some UNWITTING contact between Trump staffers and these Russians. In other words, Team Trump had some contact with them but believed that they were who they said they were, and apparently whatever contact was made, nothing came of it anyway.

So Team Trump has been specifically exempted by this indictment from prosecution resulting from contact with THESE Russians. Maybe in future something else, but not this.




Are you a lawyer? Former district attorney? I think we're all in conjectureville as far as the far reaching implications of this indictment goes. Does it mean Flynn, Manafort, Poppy, Gates? Or others not yet indicted? You are free to make any guesses you want to of course.



Mueller is setting the stage. This indictment says what happen is against the law. And that this is an investigation revolving around Russia. Not a witch hunt.

This guy is good. Nothing about Trump here because this indictment is not about him. There's nothing in here about Watergate either because it is not about Watergate. It's about what these thirteen people did. Now he can indict anyone evolved. And, it justifies his further investigating.

Tick tock



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Sunday, February 18, 2018 11:03 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by GEEBERS:
Kiki - you keep that "no collusion" mantra going!

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So you agree, GEEBERS. No collusion to date. At least you have a baby toe in reality.

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Originally posted by GEEBERS:
how do you know there was no collusion

See the difference between what I posted and what you claimed I posted?

Why do you keep lying when it's so easy to point it out?




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 11:06 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Sig and kiki have been denying everything negative about Russia

Nope. What I've been saying is there's no evidence. And you know what - there's STILL no evidence.

So that makes you a ...




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 11:57 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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We started with them stating unequivocally that Russia did not do anything.= THUFR
LINKS! when you say that, partner! Or I'ma gonna have ta call you a dirty rotten LIAR!

And I'll bet ya dollars to donuts you're never gonna find any statement of MINE like that!




OK


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sig

Not about Russia. It includes, among other things, Lynch's conversation with Bill about Hillary's State Dept emails (NOT RUSSIA) and Comey's early closing of the investigation about Hillary's emails (NOT RUSSIA), Dirty Debbie's employment of Iawan Imran (NOT RUSSIA), leaks to the press (NOT RUSSIA), the DNC's rigging the Primary (NOT RUSSIA), the FBI-DNC link (NOT RUSSIA), and Hillary and her State Dept emails (NOT RUSSIA).

Wow, you're so sensitive to the topic of "Russia" you see it where it doesn't even exist. Are you sure YOU'RE not a Russian troll???

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62107&mid=10429
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quote sig

For you it's all about Russia and it's ALWAYS about Russia.

YOU GUYS HAVE RUSSIA ON THE BRAIN!

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:00 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Mueller is setting the stage. This indictment says what happen is against the law.
So it's illegal for Russians to ... present themselves on social media as Americans? Hide their true identity? Post negative things about Hillary? Except that these are RUSSIANS (not generic foreigners like Frenchmen or Latvians) I'm having a hard time seeing what is "illegal" about those aspects because this is stuff everybody does. Maybe free speech doesn't extend to Russian citizens, I dunno. But it sure extends to Americans!

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And that this is an investigation revolving around Russia. Not a witch hunt.
Unless, of course, Mueller comes up with an indictment for tax evasion, or some other unrelated charge? In which case, it IS a witch hunt?
Just remember THUGR, you said it first!

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This guy is good. Nothing about Trump here because this indictment is not about him. There's nothing in here about Watergate either because it is not about Watergate. It's about what these thirteen people did. Now he can indict anyone evolved. And, it justifies his further investigating.
First of all, there IS something about Team Trump, and they were specifically exonerated.

Second, Mueller doesn't NEED justification for further investigation. It's his job; he can legally continue until kingdom come and afterwards. But as far as I'm concerned, these results are so underwhelming that they argue that the plug should be pulled, because if all he's come up with so far is "process crimes" and indicting people on things not at all related to Russia (ie Manafort/ Ukraine) plus indicting all of 13 Russians, then it seems a big waste of time and money.

But whatever. Mueller can continue and swim up his own colon for all I care. While he's at it, why doesn't he look into the DNC's reacharound with Fusion GPS, the Steele "dossier" and it's reliance on unknown Russians, and Uranium One?


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Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:05 PM

SIGNYM

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We started with them stating unequivocally that Russia did not do anything.= THUGR

LINKS! when you say that, partner! Or I'ma gonna have ta call you a dirty rotten LIAR!

And I'll bet ya dollars to donuts you're never gonna find any statement of MINE like that!

POSTED BY THUGR:
Not about Russia. It includes, among other things, Lynch's conversation with Bill about Hillary's State Dept emails (NOT RUSSIA) and Comey's early closing of the investigation about Hillary's emails (NOT RUSSIA), Dirty Debbie's employment of Iawan Imran (NOT RUSSIA), leaks to the press (NOT RUSSIA), the DNC's rigging the Primary (NOT RUSSIA), the FBI-DNC link (NOT RUSSIA), and Hillary and her State Dept emails (NOT RUSSIA).
Wow, you're so sensitive to the topic of "Russia" you see it where it doesn't even exist. Are you sure YOU'RE not a Russian troll??? - SIGNY

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62107&mid=10429
29#1042929

What I have said about Russia is that I'm SURE they snooped on stuff. THEY snoop on our stuff, we snoop on their stuff. Their outlets present a Russian POV, our outlets (VOA/ Radio Liberty, CNN etc) present our POV.

What I'm sure they did NOT do ... and the part MISSING FROM THIS INDICTMENT BTW.... is "hack" Podesta's emails and give them to Assange. Assange knows who gave him the emails, and it was not Russian. Assange's colleague, who actually received the emails, said it was someone with lawful access to them: NOT RUSSIA. As far as the other stuff is concerned ... the social media aspect ... it was a trivial exercise. And I will re-state that if Americans ... i.e. YOU .... can't argue for your own POV with facts and logic, but whine for protection from thoughts that you don't like .... there's something wrong with YOU. Among other things, you clearly don't understand how democracy is supposed to work.






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Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Sig and kiki have been denying everything negative about Russia and claiming the reported news fake for years.

Sig likes to quote Russian controlled media and zerohedge, while stating all regular media is lying. Unless of course the reported news suits her, which is a rarity. The mainstream media eventually is proven true, and they act like it doesn't show them to be full of shit. Well it does.
Nothing new...

T

It's not like we might expect you to stop lying, but you would need highly selective blinders to fail to notice the MSM is usually proven wrong, while ZeroHedge seems to be usually proven correct.

And yes, others besides Sig and kiki have pointed out that Fake News is really Fake News, while knowing that you will be unable to discern.

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:11 PM

THGRRI


Everything going my way guys. Cry about it somewhere else. Everything I, G, SGG, Second, KPO, wishie and some others have been saying has been going on, is resulting in guilty pleas and indictments.

Add to that nothing, and I mean nothing you guys have been crying about has resulted in anything. No guilty pleas and no indictments. Why, no evidence. Love it...

tick tock


T

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:53 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


I'm leaning toward you being a Russian troll or small team, Sig/Kiki/JSF/6string.

So eazy to set up fake personaz on the internet due to the established anonymity tradition.

It seemz like alot uv work to run 4 guyz, but it coud be dun by a very smart individual. Maybe youre getting paid by the post count with bonusez for all sorts uv stuff.

More likely a team.

Dont get all rabid. That leadz to mistakes. Take it az a compliment kuz I admire the effort and exellens.

I also think that its a fair game situation - wut woud I do if I wuz in Putin'z plase? The dumass American bully pushing Russia around and not expecting any retaliation?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:54 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I'm leaning toward you being a Russian troll or small team, Sig/Kiki/JSF/6string.






Yep JO, I agree with this and to me they are all shit.


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Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:33 PM

THGRRI


Shit, we have yet to see Mueller reveal anything about wiki leaks and the hacking of the DNC part of the investigation. Stay tuned folks.

tick tock


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Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:35 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yes - tick tock, indeed.

You BOTH just restarted the clock on your legal liabilities. In other words, getting together and agreeing on libel doesn't remove your personal culpability, it increases it. Smooth move, ex-lax.




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:35 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Yes - tick tock, indeed.

You BOTH just restarted the clock on your legal liabilities. In other words, getting together and agreeing on libel doesn't remove your personal culpability, it increases it. Smooth move, ex-lax.




https://www.picgifs.com/graphics/s/scare/graphics-scare-709655.bmp






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Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:36 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Everything going my way guys. Cry about it somewhere else. Everything I, G, SGG, Second, KPO, wishie and some others have been saying has been going on, is resulting in guilty pleas and indictments.

Add to that nothing, and I mean nothing you guys have been crying about has resulted in anything. No guilty pleas and no indictments. Why, no evidence. Love it...

tick tock


T

Trump Collusion with Russia. After a year.
No guilty pleasure, no indictments of Trump or Russian Government.


The 2 Memos. After a few weeks.
Top people fired, stepping down, quitting left and right.

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:40 PM

THGRRI


Only a dummy doesn't know the difference between Trump firing people in a cover-up attempt, people leaving out of disgust, and guilty pleas and indictments. Dummy...


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Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:49 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by GEEBERS:
Kiki - you keep that "no collusion" mantra going!

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
So you agree, GEEBERS. No collusion to date. At least you have a baby toe in reality.

Quote:

Originally posted by GEEBERS:
how do you know there was no collusion

See the difference between what I posted and what you claimed I posted?

Why do you keep lying when it's so easy to point it out?




Gee, no, do please point out your intense brilliance. And when you do please also point our how you know there was no collusion because I'm still waiting.

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:51 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Sig and kiki have been denying everything negative about Russia and claiming the reported news fake for years.

Sig likes to quote Russian controlled media and zerohedge, while stating all regular media is lying. Unless of course the reported news suits her, which is a rarity. The mainstream media eventually is proven true, and they act like it doesn't show them to be full of shit. Well it does.
Nothing new...

T

It's not like we might expect you to stop lying, but you would need highly selective blinders to fail to notice the MSM is usually proven wrong, while ZeroHedge seems to be usually proven correct.

And yes, others besides Sig and kiki have pointed out that Fake News is really Fake News, while knowing that you will be unable to discern.



Kiki's puppet?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:55 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Sig and kiki have been denying everything negative about Russia

Nope. What I've been saying is there's no evidence. And you know what - there's STILL no evidence.



Thanks for reminding me - I keep asking you and you keep running away... how do you know what Mueller knows?

You don't?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 5:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


KIKI- maybe the idiots are planning on some sort of insanity defense??

Quote:


I'm leaning toward you being a Russian troll or small team, Sig/Kiki/JSF/6string.
So eazy to set up fake personaz on the internet due to the established anonymity tradition.
It seemz like alot uv work to run 4 guyz, but it coud be dun by a very smart individual. Maybe youre getting paid by the post count with bonusez for all sorts uv stuff.
More likely a team.
Dont get all rabid. That leadz to mistakes. Take it az a compliment kuz I admire the effort and exellens.
I also think that its a fair game situation - wut woud I do if I wuz in Putin'z plase? The dumass American bully pushing Russia around and not expecting any retaliation?



HEY, ALL OF YOU IDIOTS: If you click on my name, you will see that I've been here since 2002. And if you go back as far as RWE goes (which goes back as far as a hard drive crash, in 2004) you will see my earliest accessible thread

Quote:

Israeli Spy at Pentagon
www.reuters.com/newsArticle.
jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6093465&pageNumber=1

Quote:

...CBS News, which first reported the story, said federal agents were about to arrest the suspect, who it said may have been in a position to influence Bush administration policy on Iran and Iraq.

The network said the analyst had ties to Rumsfeld's deputy Paul Wolfowitz and Defense Undersecretary Douglas Feith, both regarded as leading architects of the war on Iraq that President Bush launched in March last year.

... The network described the spy as "a trusted analyst" ... (who) worked for Feith, who created a special intelligence unit before the Iraq war that had sought to build a case that Baghdad had ties to al Qaeda

... The Washington Post reported on its Web site that the official under suspicion specialized in Iranian affairs and was a veteran of the Defense Intelligence Agency who was nearing retirement.



Am I allowed to say "I told you so"?


http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=6908

So, I've been posting here since 2002, and demonstrably here since 2004, pretty much the same as I've been posting all along. DAMN those Ruskies!! They had the foresight to plant someone on a no-account fansite at least a DECADE before it was necessary???

Good grief, your delusions know no bounds. I still can't figure out what the hell is wrong with you people.

But yanno what? If you haven't figured out by now how malicious/ stupid/ culpable you are, I'm not going to try to save you from yourselves. Just go along being as ridiculous as you are; I'll just be laughing at you and shaking my head.


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Sunday, February 18, 2018 5:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"Gee, no, do please point out your intense brilliance." I was pointing out your incessant lying. But carry on thinking you can lie about everything.




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 5:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Kiki's puppet?

Every time you go so far astray from reality, it cracks me up!




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 5:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Good grief, your delusions know no bounds. I still can't figure out what the hell is wrong with you people.

That's a good question. Maybe it has to do with being - yanno - sociopaths who feed on hatred. Why let facts, reason, common sense, get in the way of a good hatred?




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Sunday, February 18, 2018 6:21 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Good grief, your delusions know no bounds. I still can't figure out what the hell is wrong with you people.

That's a good question. Maybe it has to do with being - yanno - sociopaths who feed on hatred. Why let facts, reason, common sense, get in the way of a good hatred?



OK, that was fun. Now enough distractions and diversions. 13 Russians and 3 Russian companies indicted by Mueller. Word is, many more to come.


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Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:08 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I'm sure Mueller is personally keeping you in the loop. / sarcasm

In other words ... liar.




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