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NRA Video - Scare Tactic from "Saigon Sally"

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Monday, March 12, 2018 4:02 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I couldn't believe it, and I saw it played several times. A video, shot by the NRA, with their "spokesperson" literally calling out and threatening media TV personaliiities.



This is close to the rebirth of Leni Riefenstahl, the German film director and propaganda producer for the Third Reich. Hmmmmm.

Some even compared it to the terrorists training and recruiting videos produced by ISIS. This is really scary, but this is only the beginning. Trump, the NRA and "Sally" are just getting warmed up.


SGG

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Monday, March 12, 2018 5:43 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


What is Saigon Sally?

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Monday, March 12, 2018 8:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I'm not a big fan of the NRA myself, but I'm not too surprised that this is happening.

This is what today's Democratic party is creating in America. Not just with guns, but with every aspect of life.

That being said, I don't see how this was a personal threat of violence against anybody... at least not yet. My concern is that if something doesn't happen to settle all of this down that there might be some violence in the future.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 12, 2018 8:25 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not a big fan of the NRA myself, but I'm not too surprised that this is happening.

This is what today's Democratic party is creating in America. Not just with guns, but with every aspect of life.

That being said, I don't see how this was a personal threat of violence against anybody... at least not yet. My concern is that if something doesn't happen to settle all of this down that there might be some violence in the future.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

More antifa, BLDM, Hilliary Thugs violence against peaceful Citizens?

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Monday, March 12, 2018 8:32 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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No. Quite the opposite, actually.

I think that if Democrats don't back the f* up and put themselves in check that the other "side" is going to start retaliating with violence. This wouldn't be a concern of mine if we were living in a good economy with a good job market, but people are hurting right now. The Democratic party at one time used to be the party for the working class, but they gave that up quite a while ago, and today Identity Politics is all that drives them anymore.

The Democratic Party today is the most divisive force that I believe this country has ever known. They're pushing people in the middle to the right, and they're pushing hard right people to the fringes.

I'm worried that we're all sitting on a powder keg that could go off at any time. Somebody has got to find the release valve and let off some of the steam, and quickly.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 12, 2018 10:18 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not a big fan of the NRA myself, but I'm not too surprised that this is happening.

This is what today's Democratic party is creating in America. Not just with guns, but with every aspect of life.

That being said, I don't see how this was a personal threat of violence against anybody... at least not yet. My concern is that if something doesn't happen to settle all of this down that there might be some violence in the future.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

More antifa, BLDM, Hilliary Thugs violence against peaceful Citizens?

The violence is from the right. Why do you intentionally forget that very real fact? Where are all these "Hillary thugs?" Only in your tiny mind.

Your Nazi heroes have murdered dozens. We can add in the Florida shooting, too. Cruz is a died-in-the-wool Trumpanzee.

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Monday, March 12, 2018 10:21 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I couldn't believe it, and I saw it played several times. A video, shot by the NRA, with their "spokesperson" literally calling out and threatening media TV personaliiities.



This is close to the rebirth of Leni Riefenstahl, the German film director and propaganda producer for the Third Reich. Hmmmmm.

Some even compared it to the terrorists training and recruiting videos produced by ISIS. This is really scary, but this is only the beginning. Trump, the NRA and "Sally" are just getting warmed up.


SGG

The reichwing is emboldened by Trump's blatant fascism, and all the weak-minded authoritarian gunhuggers flock like sheep to his racist call.

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Monday, March 12, 2018 4:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Keep it up, buttercup. ;)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 5:04 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


A made-up name I gave her because she reminds me of the known propagandist Seoul City Sue.

Anna Wallis Suh was a radio announcer for the North Koreans during the Korean War in the 50s. An American who lived out west.

During the Vietnam War it was Hanoi Hannah; for WWII it was Tokyo Rose, who was also an American named Iva Toguri, she would broadcast American music but tell the soldiers to leave her country, Japan, and would identify American War ships and submarines, to name a few of the things she would talk about.
After the war, she was arrested and convicted of TREASON.

There was Axis Sally, and Berlin Bessie....both Americans. "Sally" broadcast for Mussolini and Hitler; as for "Bessie" she would try to convince listeners that their wives and sweethearts were cheating on them back home and make anti-Semitic remarks, as well as criticize FDR.

She was captured, brought back to the U.S.; charged with TREASON, convicted and sent to prison.

That's what this BITCH Dana Louse reminds me of. Yes, I said it, bitch.
Nothing but pure bile coming out her mouth. Vicious nasty bile!!!
And please don't tell me that's not a threat. You know some idiot is going to start some trouble and try to harm the folks she mentions in the NRA shit video.

May God truly Bless her!


SGG

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 5:12 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
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Nothing is greater than nothing four times?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 5:41 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


An obvious mistake.


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
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Nothing is greater than nothing four times?

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 5:46 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

And please don't tell me that's not a threat. You know some idiot is going to start some trouble and try to harm the folks she mentions in the NRA shit video.



I'm pretty sure that some nutjob out there with a gun and an intention to use it already has all of the people she called out on a list on his wall.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 5:57 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


You know something Six, I'm not surprised you responded in this way. It's actually quite funny, and a bit sad, that it's come to this. But I'm having trouble with the logic of your statement.

Every aspect of life?

By the way, concerning guns.....which is more dangerous, a gun or a car?
Particularly, a war machine like the AR-15.

Here's what I mean about the logic of your statement:

Violence: First of all, it's a call to "arms" for those borderline sickos who believe the "Black Helicopters" are coming for their guns. Wait...I gotta stop LMAO before I continue....okay, I'm done.

You say "at least, not yet." That's an admission that violence is certainly imminent and expected. Your words, not mine.

Quote:

My concern is that if something doesn't happen to settle all of this down that there might be some violence in the future.


The statement is quite contradictory. Need I say more?


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not a big fan of the NRA myself, but I'm not too surprised that this is happening.

This is what today's Democratic party is creating in America. Not just with guns, but with every aspect of life.

That being said, I don't see how this was a personal threat of violence against anybody... at least not yet. My concern is that if something doesn't happen to settle all of this down that there might be some violence in the future.



Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:03 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


And you say that it wasn't a threat. I have to say, it seems you're talking about Civil War. Hatfields & McCoys! North & South! Red Sox & Yankees!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

And please don't tell me that's not a threat. You know some idiot is going to start some trouble and try to harm the folks she mentions in the NRA shit video.



I'm pretty sure that some nutjob out there with a gun and an intention to use it already has all of the people she called out on a list on his wall.



Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:09 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Hey Reaverfan,

This is part and parcel the whole mind fuck that our comrades have so generously imparted upon us. Mass confusion, distrust and eventually violence. They got these poor folk so rattled that Dems are the enemy and must be eliminated. This is exactly how Hitler came to power in the 1930s.

The Old Jedi Mind Trick. The only difference being....this is for real.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not a big fan of the NRA myself, but I'm not too surprised that this is happening.

This is what today's Democratic party is creating in America. Not just with guns, but with every aspect of life.

That being said, I don't see how this was a personal threat of violence against anybody... at least not yet. My concern is that if something doesn't happen to settle all of this down that there might be some violence in the future.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

More antifa, BLDM, Hilliary Thugs violence against peaceful Citizens?

The violence is from the right. Why do you intentionally forget that very real fact? Where are all these "Hillary thugs?" Only in your tiny mind.

Your Nazi heroes have murdered dozens. We can add in the Florida shooting, too. Cruz is a died-in-the-wool Trumpanzee.


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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
And you say that it wasn't a threat. I have to say, it seems you're talking about Civil War.



It wasn't a threat. There was nothing at all threatening in that video.

Once again, you are inferring something and projecting what you infer from somebody speaking on to other people.




If you're listening G, this is an example of pro-censorship/anti-free speech on these boards. What is your opinion of this G? Should videos like this be banned?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:50 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


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I think that if Democrats don't back the f* up and put themselves in check that the other "side" is going to start retaliating with violence.


Are you trying to say that there's something coming down the pike? So, it's those "Dems" starting all the fuss! Why!? What have those pesky Dems done this time?

Quote:

This wouldn't be a concern of mine if we were living in a good economy with a good job market, but people are hurting right now


Wait, I thought Trump fixed all that...you know, Tax Break, low unemployment, those wonderful tariffs that will bring back the Steel industry. MAGA!

Quote:

The Democratic party at one time used to be the party for the working class, but they gave that up quite a while ago, and today Identity Politics is all that drives them anymore.


Really!? What is Identity Politics?

Quote:

The Democratic Party today is the most divisive force that I believe this country has ever known. They're pushing people in the middle to the right, and they're pushing hard right people to the fringes.


Okay, now I gotta ask you...How does that work? How is it that Dems are "pushing" people towards the right? If anything, I would imagine they would want people to "push" towards the left. I really don't see this. Would you care to explain?

Quote:

I'm worried that we're all sitting on a powder keg that could go off at any time. Somebody has got to find the release valve and let off some of the steam, and quickly.


There's that Civil War talk again. You really should pause a moment before rattling off words like that. Now, of course, if you know something is brewing....well then, that would be different. But what would you suggest?
Me? Here's what I suggest...Right off the bat, I would have all the Dems move to Canada. The Repubs(?) could remain here and make the country great again.

Your turn...


SGG







Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No. Quite the opposite, actually.

I think that if Democrats don't back the f* up and put themselves in check that the other "side" is going to start retaliating with violence. This wouldn't be a concern of mine if we were living in a good economy with a good job market, but people are hurting right now. The Democratic party at one time used to be the party for the working class, but they gave that up quite a while ago, and today Identity Politics is all that drives them anymore.

The Democratic Party today is the most divisive force that I believe this country has ever known. They're pushing people in the middle to the right, and they're pushing hard right people to the fringes.

I'm worried that we're all sitting on a powder keg that could go off at any time. Somebody has got to find the release valve and let off some of the steam, and quickly.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:05 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If you're listening G, this is an example of pro-censorship/anti-free speech on these boards. What is your opinion of this G? Should videos like this be banned?



Huh? "an example of pro-censorship/anti-free speech on these boards" - I missed that one. Where exactly? Did someone say posts or videos should be removed and people should be censored?

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:11 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Okay, now you've lost your mind. She can say whatever she wants, FREE COUNTRY, remember!?

Now, read slowly and carefully what I'm about to say. I have every right and freedom (there's that word again, shiny!) to speak my mind. Like our girlfriend Dana, who obviously is making threats towards folks in the media by saying "time is running out", so what exactly does that mean?

I see it as a line in the sand. Pretty straightforward to me. And nobody used the "C" word...........for the curious; "C" stands for censorship. Just because I called a spade, a spade...doesn't mean I want to ban anything. She obviously got to say her little firestarter. I calls 'em likes I sees 'em.
She spoke her mind, now I'm speaking mine.

That's what this country's about. FREEDOM my friend, FREEDOM.I might not like what she said, you might not like what I said, but gorramit, I'm gonna say it. She did. So please, spare me the anti free speech BULLSHIT. This is America, last time I looked, and if I want to call her Big Bird, then nothing and no one can stop me. She used threatening words and tone. PERIOD!

But remember, you can't go around yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater, unless there is one.

AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL!

Love it or Leave it!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
And you say that it wasn't a threat. I have to say, it seems you're talking about Civil War.



It wasn't a threat. There was nothing at all threatening in that video.

Once again, you are inferring something and projecting what you infer from somebody speaking on to other people.




If you're listening G, this is an example of pro-censorship/anti-free speech on these boards. What is your opinion of this G? Should videos like this be banned?

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:37 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Oh bullshit.

You're accusing people of thoughtcrime and attributing a call to violence where there is none. You don't only disapprove of what she is saying but you don't want what she said to be able to be said at all.


FYI... Everybody is on to the Democrat's little game of calling something Nazism as a call to censor something without outright saying that it should be censored.

Quote:

This is close to the rebirth of Leni Riefenstahl, the German film director and propaganda producer for the Third Reich. Hmmmmm.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:47 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey Reaverfan,

This is part and parcel the whole mind fuck that our comrades have so generously imparted upon us. Mass confusion, distrust and eventually violence. They got these poor folk so rattled that Dems are the enemy and must be eliminated. This is exactly how Hitler came to power in the 1930s.

The Old Jedi Mind Trick. The only difference being....this is for real.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not a big fan of the NRA myself, but I'm not too surprised that this is happening.

This is what today's Democratic party is creating in America. Not just with guns, but with every aspect of life.

That being said, I don't see how this was a personal threat of violence against anybody... at least not yet. My concern is that if something doesn't happen to settle all of this down that there might be some violence in the future.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

More antifa, BLDM, Hilliary Thugs violence against peaceful Citizens?

The violence is from the right. Why do you intentionally forget that very real fact? Where are all these "Hillary thugs?" Only in your tiny mind.

Your Nazi heroes have murdered dozens. We can add in the Florida shooting, too. Cruz is a died-in-the-wool Trumpanzee.


The Republicans have been at it for years. Remember "Tiller the baby killer?" Murdered at church by a triggered reichwing nutjob after Bill O'Reilly went on and on, demonizing him for months.

They know they can get away with it, and they do.

stochastic terrorism
[stuh-kas-tik ter-uh-riz-uh m]

noun
1.
the public demonization of a person or group resulting in the incitement of a violent act, which is statistically probable but whose specifics cannot be predicted:
The lone-wolf attack was apparently influenced by the rhetoric of stochastic terrorism.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:43 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:08 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


What is the difference between "Time's up" and "Your time is running out"?

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America is an oligarchy
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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 4:15 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

The Democratic party at one time used to be the party for the working class, but they gave that up quite a while ago, and today Identity Politics is all that drives them anymore.
Really!? What is Identity Politics?

Quote:

The Democratic Party today is the most divisive force that I believe this country has ever known. They're pushing people in the middle to the right, and they're pushing hard right people to the fringes.
Okay, now I gotta ask you...How does that work? How is it that Dems are "pushing" people towards the right? If anything, I would imagine they would want people to "push" towards the left. I really don't see this. Would you care to explain?


Me? Here's what I suggest...Right off the bat, I would have all the Dems move to Canada. The Repubs(?) could remain here and make the country great again.

I would prefer not to thrust all of that violence upon my Canadian friends. Only if Canada volunteered to become Murder capital of the world would I endorse sending Democraps their way.
I would not oppose sending them to some colony such as in Escape From NY/LA.


SGG seems to not realize that appalling actions are a repellent.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 4:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What is the difference between "Time's up" and "Your time is running out"?

Logically, the latter indicates there is time for corrective action yet remaining. The former implies such time has expired.

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:26 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


My sentiments exactly!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If you're listening G, this is an example of pro-censorship/anti-free speech on these boards. What is your opinion of this G? Should videos like this be banned?



Huh? "an example of pro-censorship/anti-free speech on these boards" - I missed that one. Where exactly? Did someone say posts or videos should be removed and people should be censored?


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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:30 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Balls and strikes, kiddo, Balls and strikes!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh bullshit.

You're accusing people of thoughtcrime and attributing a call to violence where there is none. You don't only disapprove of what she is saying but you don't want what she said to be able to be said at all.


FYI... Everybody is on to the Democrat's little game of calling something Nazism as a call to censor something without outright saying that it should be censored.

Quote:

This is close to the rebirth of Leni Riefenstahl, the German film director and propaganda producer for the Third Reich. Hmmmmm.


Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:33 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Unless a woman can shoot someone with her Vagina.....need I go on?


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What is the difference between "Time's up" and "Your time is running out"?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

America is an oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876


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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:36 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Quote:

SGG seems to not realize that appalling actions are a repellent.


Wrong....I put up with the likes of you.....BWAH.Ha.Ha.Ha.Ha!!!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Quote:

The Democratic party at one time used to be the party for the working class, but they gave that up quite a while ago, and today Identity Politics is all that drives them anymore.
Really!? What is Identity Politics?

Quote:

The Democratic Party today is the most divisive force that I believe this country has ever known. They're pushing people in the middle to the right, and they're pushing hard right people to the fringes.
Okay, now I gotta ask you...How does that work? How is it that Dems are "pushing" people towards the right? If anything, I would imagine they would want people to "push" towards the left. I really don't see this. Would you care to explain?


Me? Here's what I suggest...Right off the bat, I would have all the Dems move to Canada. The Repubs(?) could remain here and make the country great again.

I would prefer not to thrust all of that violence upon my Canadian friends. Only if Canada volunteered to become Murder capital of the world would I endorse sending Democraps their way.
I would not oppose sending them to some colony such as in Escape From NY/LA.


SGG seems to not realize that appalling actions are a repellent.


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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Balls and strikes, kiddo, Balls and strikes!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh bullshit.

You're accusing people of thoughtcrime and attributing a call to violence where there is none. You don't only disapprove of what she is saying but you don't want what she said to be able to be said at all.


FYI... Everybody is on to the Democrat's little game of calling something Nazism as a call to censor something without outright saying that it should be censored.

Quote:

This is close to the rebirth of Leni Riefenstahl, the German film director and propaganda producer for the Third Reich. Hmmmmm.


Do Right, Be Right. :)





Hey man. You're right. I'm the umpire and I'm just calling them like I see 'em.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:21 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Thank you for the lesson in semantics.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What is the difference between "Time's up" and "Your time is running out"?

Logically, the latter indicates there is time for corrective action yet remaining. The former implies such time has expired.


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Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:24 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


You see! You can teach an old dog new tricks. Exactly my point!
And just so you know; you can't accuse someone of a thoughtcrime if she speaks it out loud.....in public.....on video.

What she said was something provocative, pointed and dripping with vile ugliness. Now, that I've said that....point to where I'm calling for censorship. Go ahead, I'll wait!

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FYI... Everybody is on to the Democrat's little game of calling something Nazism as a call to censor something without outright saying that it should be censored.


Well now, we seem to have hit an inpasse. But, the Nazis weren't known for their charm and wit. They had a way with spreading lies and creating a vile atmosphere of mistrust of anyone NOT believing as they do. Sound familiar!?
If spreading falsehoods and creating mistrust, like that mentioned above, could be called by any other name...be sure to let me know. I'll use that term. For right now, I'll stick with Nazism (although I could use scumbags; remember a World War was fought over such thoughts).


SGG


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Balls and strikes, kiddo, Balls and strikes!


SGG


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh bullshit.

You're accusing people of thoughtcrime and attributing a call to violence where there is none. You don't only disapprove of what she is saying but you don't want what she said to be able to be said at all.


FYI... Everybody is on to the Democrat's little game of calling something Nazism as a call to censor something without outright saying that it should be censored.

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This is close to the rebirth of Leni Riefenstahl, the German film director and propaganda producer for the Third Reich. Hmmmmm.


Do Right, Be Right. :)





Hey man. You're right. I'm the umpire and I'm just calling them like I see 'em.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:29 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I think everyone would prefer you use "scumbags" as opposed to Nazism. Particularly the Jews who had family members in the millions that were actually killed by the Nazis.

I know I'd appreciate it. If you took out that bit from your first post and just left the rest of your angry rant then there is no way I could claim that you were calling for censorship.

Since nearly 100% of the world agrees that actual Nazis are basically evil, when you equate somebody else to that you are saying that they should be censored without actually saying they should be censored.




I already told you that I'm no fan of the NRA.

What I'm even less of a fan of is these types of tactics from the Left today that push people in the middle to the Right and people already on the Right towards the fringes.


Sure. I don't care for anybody the NRA called out in that video either. I'd never say they should be hunted or censored though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:08 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Six,

There is so much here to unpack, but i will try to keep it short and simple. First, please know that I try not to go back on my word. It's a thing with me.
But I'm going to split hairs here. Why? Because what you're asking me to do is censor myself. The very thing that you're accusing me of. So I say no to changing my statement, even though I said I would. It's the principle of the thing.

Also, I want to make a distinction. I despise the NRA leadership, not the general membership. For the most part, I feel that they are decent Americans. The good people of this country. These are the same people who want background checks, etc.
LaPierre and his attack dog, Louse, are representing the greedy gun manufacturers and not the good people. My only problem with a handful of those good people is that they have fallen for LaPierre's hype, his lies. He uses fear and mistrust to influence and manipulate.

I know what you're going to say. So do others. Fine, whatever. Let's keep this simple. Let's assume others do the same. But I'm talking about LaPierre, the lying sack of shit. I say that because the man has no soul. These type of people do not deserve any respect. That's my opinion, my POV.

So, simple it is. Who actually needs a machine that can shoot several hundred rounds of bullets? I know, the 2d Amendment. There are more than that one Amendment. Besides, is that the only reason...because you can. It says so. Then that means, if I could afford a 50-caliber machine gun, I should buy it? Because I can. What's to stop me from going to the NRA headquarters and blowing away everyone and be done with it. Just because I can. Do you know what a 50-caliber bullet can do to a man? An AR-15 round? I've seen it. A 50-caliber machine gun rips a man in half. What does someone, not in war, need a gun that can do that much damage?

Anyway, do you want to censor me? You ask that I change my words. That's censorship. I have never asked that of you or anyone. But, what I will say, is that a public figure must expect some remark(s) whenever they engage the public with their "words of wisdom." Louse spoke and I responded because I did not like what she said. That is my right as an American. Just as it is your right to speak your mind. We might not agree, but that's okay, we don't have to. I respect your right to say whatever comes to your mind. Like now.

So, having said that. I chose to stand by what I said, like I said, because of the principle of free speech. The 1st Amendment.


SGG


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think everyone would prefer you use "scumbags" as opposed to Nazism. Particularly the Jews who had family members in the millions that were actually killed by the Nazis.

I know I'd appreciate it. If you took out that bit from your first post and just left the rest of your angry rant then there is no way I could claim that you were calling for censorship.

Since nearly 100% of the world agrees that actual Nazis are basically evil, when you equate somebody else to that you are saying that they should be censored without actually saying they should be censored.




I already told you that I'm no fan of the NRA.

What I'm even less of a fan of is these types of tactics from the Left today that push people in the middle to the Right and people already on the Right towards the fringes.


Sure. I don't care for anybody the NRA called out in that video either. I'd never say they should be hunted or censored though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:55 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


One of the most cherished Rights which Michiganders seem to revel in is ownership of Cannon.

Do you know what a cannon round can do to a person?

Michigan Citizens will be thrilled to hear you city slickers want to confiscate their possessions and property.

When a bear is breaking into your dwelling, good luck if you think you'll put it down with a handgun or .22 Rifle. An AR-15 would at least give you a chance, or somebody next to you a chance to reload.

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Saturday, March 17, 2018 8:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I'm not censoring you. I'm asking that you use common sense. You wouldn't be writing a 6 paragraph explanation for yourself right now if you didn't equate people who aren't Nazis to Nazis in the first place.

I'm one of the few people on this board that is 100% about freedom. Always have been, always will be. So long as you're not harming anybody else or putting them out, you should be free to do or say whatever you want to. That being said, say whatever you want. Just understand that any "argument" you're making is invalidated when you say things like that. You're only hurting yourself when you do it.

Think about it. Who is going to listen to you when you call people who aren't Nazis, Nazis? The answer to that is, only the people who already agreed with you in the first place. Everybody else will either "fight" back, or just completely ignore you.

As for this LaPierre guy. I don't know him, I don't care to know him, and he probably is a rich cocksucker that doesn't deserve your respect. I sure as hell have no reason to respect him. I hardly respect anybody. That shit is earned brother.



I haven't made up my mind on the killing machines yet. I don't know if I ever will. It's unfortunate when wackjobs get their hands on them so easily, there is no denying that. But I don't trust our government even more than 1%. When and if the day ever comes that our own government becomes tyrannical and outright oppresses us through censorship and pure brute force, I'm going to wish I had made friends with some of the survivalists who own some of them.


Again, SGG, I appreciate you taking the time to have an actual conversation with me on the subject. I feel that you're the only person on your "side" in here that is capable of doing so. I do hope you take my thoughts on throwing the word Nazi around to heart though. I appreciate you taking the time to explain yourself, but you wouldn't have had to do it in the first place if you didn't use it.

Not that you have to explain yourself to anybody. It's a free country. But the fact that you took the time to do so keeps legitimate dialogue flowing here.

I'd just like to point out again, so you don't forget, that I'm not on the other "side" here. I surely don't like your "side" at all these days, but I'm not really a fan of the other one either. It's just strange and a bit sad that I've been pushed more towards the other "side" in the last decade. I don't know what happened, but the Democrats are becoming everything I thought they were once fighting against.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Six,

There is so much here to unpack, but i will try to keep it short and simple. First, please know that I try not to go back on my word. It's a thing with me.
But I'm going to split hairs here. Why? Because what you're asking me to do is censor myself. The very thing that you're accusing me of. So I say no to changing my statement, even though I said I would. It's the principle of the thing.

Also, I want to make a distinction. I despise the NRA leadership, not the general membership. For the most part, I feel that they are decent Americans. The good people of this country. These are the same people who want background checks, etc.
LaPierre and his attack dog, Louse, are representing the greedy gun manufacturers and not the good people. My only problem with a handful of those good people is that they have fallen for LaPierre's hype, his lies. He uses fear and mistrust to influence and manipulate.

I know what you're going to say. So do others. Fine, whatever. Let's keep this simple. Let's assume others do the same. But I'm talking about LaPierre, the lying sack of shit. I say that because the man has no soul. These type of people do not deserve any respect. That's my opinion, my POV.

So, simple it is. Who actually needs a machine that can shoot several hundred rounds of bullets? I know, the 2d Amendment. There are more than that one Amendment. Besides, is that the only reason...because you can. It says so. Then that means, if I could afford a 50-caliber machine gun, I should buy it? Because I can. What's to stop me from going to the NRA headquarters and blowing away everyone and be done with it. Just because I can. Do you know what a 50-caliber bullet can do to a man? An AR-15 round? I've seen it. A 50-caliber machine gun rips a man in half. What does someone, not in war, need a gun that can do that much damage?

Anyway, do you want to censor me? You ask that I change my words. That's censorship. I have never asked that of you or anyone. But, what I will say, is that a public figure must expect some remark(s) whenever they engage the public with their "words of wisdom." Louse spoke and I responded because I did not like what she said. That is my right as an American. Just as it is your right to speak your mind. We might not agree, but that's okay, we don't have to. I respect your right to say whatever comes to your mind. Like now.

So, having said that. I chose to stand by what I said, like I said, because of the principle of free speech. The 1st Amendment.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think everyone would prefer you use "scumbags" as opposed to Nazism. Particularly the Jews who had family members in the millions that were actually killed by the Nazis.

I know I'd appreciate it. If you took out that bit from your first post and just left the rest of your angry rant then there is no way I could claim that you were calling for censorship.

Since nearly 100% of the world agrees that actual Nazis are basically evil, when you equate somebody else to that you are saying that they should be censored without actually saying they should be censored.




I already told you that I'm no fan of the NRA.

What I'm even less of a fan of is these types of tactics from the Left today that push people in the middle to the Right and people already on the Right towards the fringes.


Sure. I don't care for anybody the NRA called out in that video either. I'd never say they should be hunted or censored though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 17, 2018 8:16 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm one of the few people on this board that is 100% about freedom. Always have been, always will be.



I can't laugh hard enough...

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Saturday, March 17, 2018 9:34 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm one of the few people on this board that is 100% about freedom. Always have been, always will be.



I can't laugh hard enough...



Okay. Back your laughter up.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 17, 2018 10:58 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Using the children of a mass school shooting as props as the Left are doing to attack the NRA, is beyond the pale.

Of COURSE the NRA are going to defend themselves from these baseless attacks. How dare they ? How dare YOU point the finger of blame at them in the 1st place.

There is no logic here, what so ever. We don't blast the auto manufacturers for DUI deaths. We don't accuse Apple for texting while driving accidents.

The problem is the DRUGS being shoved down our kid's throats at a young age as a quick fix. The problem isn't THE GUNS. The mental short circuiting that goes on which causes a person to kill, indiscriminately is NOT normal. The means by which they carry out their twisted goals isn't the issue. It's WHY are they doing this in the 1st place.


" It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think "

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Sunday, March 18, 2018 4:26 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


That is a load of crap. When was the last time you heard of someone shooting a bear, breaking into someone's hut, out there in the boonies, being shot by an AR-15? I need proof that this happened!

A cannon, Ha! (cityslickers, that's a good one!)

"Hey Ma! It's a bair, get me my shooting gun!"


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
One of the most cherished Rights which Michiganders seem to revel in is ownership of Cannon.

Do you know what a cannon round can do to a person?

Michigan Citizens will be thrilled to hear you city slickers want to confiscate their possessions and property.

When a bear is breaking into your dwelling, good luck if you think you'll put it down with a handgun or .22 Rifle. An AR-15 would at least give you a chance, or somebody next to you a chance to reload.


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Sunday, March 18, 2018 4:27 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Whoa! Thems fightin' words!


SGG


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm one of the few people on this board that is 100% about freedom. Always have been, always will be.



I can't laugh hard enough...



Okay. Back your laughter up.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Sunday, March 18, 2018 4:58 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
That is a load of crap. When was the last time you heard of someone shooting a bear, breaking into someone's hut, out there in the boonies, being shot by an AR-15? I need proof that this happened!

A cannon, Ha! (cityslickers, that's a good one!)

"Hey Ma! It's a bair, get me my shooting gun!"

SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
One of the most cherished Rights which Michiganders seem to revel in is ownership of Cannon.

Do you know what a cannon round can do to a person?

Michigan Citizens will be thrilled to hear you city slickers want to confiscate their possessions and property.

When a bear is breaking into your dwelling, good luck if you think you'll put it down with a handgun or .22 Rifle. An AR-15 would at least give you a chance, or somebody next to you a chance to reload.


A few years ago, a coworker. Several Bear interactions. I don't think he had an AR-15. But he didn't whip out his .22 or handgun.

He lives in Armstrong Creek, WI. One time a bear kept trying to break in through his Door, of his house. He called the DNR to have a Warden come out and solve the problem. The bimbo on the phone said there are no Bear in your area (she's in some city, likely Madison, maybe never seen a tree before), you can shoot whatever it is because it's not z Bear. He asks if she can send him a letter to that effect. She does.
He shoots the bear, I think 3 shots from 30.06 and maybe one shotgun. Warden comes out and explains he needs to go to jail for shooting the bear. He whips out the letter, the Warden says he can't believe it, but those city people really are some kind of stupid, have a nice day sir.

Now that I think on it, maybe he did have an AR-15. But he wasn't going to use it on no Bear.

Pretty sure he did Harbor a little jealousy for our other coworkers having cannon, since they resided in MI. Guy I worked next to had 3 or 4 cannon, fairly impressive.

And his wife didn't have enough sense to use guns. She thought she could just scare away the cubs, yelling at them.

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Sunday, March 18, 2018 7:37 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Yeah. Don't let Captain Idiot derail our discussion.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Whoa! Thems fightin' words!


SGG


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm one of the few people on this board that is 100% about freedom. Always have been, always will be.



I can't laugh hard enough...



Okay. Back your laughter up.

Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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