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Trump iz a Hero!?

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Sunday, July 29, 2018 9:40 AM

JO753

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Posted a new Wordpress artikl:
https://howstupidarewe.blog/2018/07/28/alternate-hypothosis/#more-885

Last week Steven Colbert expressed hiz feelingz uv 'weirdness' fogging up the world sins Nov 2016.

Its a good word for it. Weird coverz the parts uv this that dont make any sens, even if you arent a Fox eko chamber inhabitant. All sorts uv stuff that youd expect to get Trump axed immediatly, even accounting for traitorous GoP party loyalty. Stuff like wut 6string mentioned in the other thred about the IRS - They know everything, so why havent they strung him up by hiz ballz? (along with Jared Kushner et al)

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Sunday, July 29, 2018 10:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Posted a new Wordpress artikl:
https://howstupidarewe.blog/2018/07/28/alternate-hypothosis/#more-885

Last week Steven Colbert expressed hiz feelingz uv 'weirdness' fogging up the world sins Nov 2016.

Its a good word for it. Weird coverz the parts uv this that dont make any sens, even if you arent a Fox eko chamber inhabitant. All sorts uv stuff that youd expect to get Trump axed immediatly, even accounting for traitorous GoP party loyalty. Stuff like wut 6string mentioned in the other thred about the IRS - They know everything, so why havent they strung him up by hiz ballz? (along with Jared Kushner et al)




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If the Alternativ Hypothosis turnz out to be true and Trump iz a hero, dont think that vindicates you! You didnt know about The Big Plot, so you were still idiots for voting for a scumbag traitor con man.



I do hope that you'll relieve me of any supposed guilt that I should feel here. I have laid out similar possible scenarios as this, although I have to applaud your imagination here for this possibility.

I didn't know at all what the ramifications of Trump being in the white house would be when I voted for him, but I was sick and tired of the status quo and putting another Clinton in office was a vote for it on several different levels.

The truth is, even his own party for the most part doesn't seem to like him and makes a very active effort to fall in line and just tolerate him. Likely at this point hoping something bad happens to him and the "nightmare" will be over.

In July of 2018 I still view this as a very positive thing when it comes to the Trump Presidency. Not only does he drive the Lefties absolutely insane, but leaders in his own party hate him as well.

And how many high profile people from both sides have either quit, been fired, or have gone to prison since he's been in office? How many compared to any presidential administration before him?


I think it's a bit premature for anybody to go around calling him a hero. I'd laugh somebody out the door who tried to say it, just as quick as I would the SJW brigade painting him out to be the most evil man who ever lived, and anyone who voted for him as a Nazi.

Maybe I'm wrong with my own theories about what is really going on, but when you look under the table and see this stuff happening everyday rather than focusing on where the MSM wants us to focus, I see a lot of good things happening.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 29, 2018 11:50 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Posted a new Wordpress artikl:
https://howstupidarewe.blog/2018/07/28/alternate-hypothosis/#more-885

Last week Steven Colbert expressed hiz feelingz uv 'weirdness' fogging up the world sins Nov 2016.

Its a good word for it. Weird coverz the parts uv this that dont make any sens, even if you arent a Fox eko chamber inhabitant. All sorts uv stuff that youd expect to get Trump axed immediatly, even accounting for traitorous GoP party loyalty. Stuff like wut 6string mentioned in the other thred about the IRS - They know everything, so why havent they strung him up by hiz ballz? (along with Jared Kushner et al)



To the best of my knowledge: The IRS is not authorized to bring charges on any US citizen unless there have been Federal Tax Laws broken. Him borrowing millions from Russian Oligarchs or any Kremlin contacts, that have the wink-wink nudge-nudge net effect of making him their b*tch, is not against any US Tax law that I know of.

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Sunday, July 29, 2018 11:53 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maybe I'm wrong with my own theories about what is really going on, but when you look under the table and see this stuff happening everyday rather than focusing on where the MSM wants us to focus, I see a lot of good things happening.



Like? And not because they would happen no matter who was in the White House, but directly because of Trump. Cites to match claims expected as always.

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Sunday, July 29, 2018 12:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Posted a new Wordpress artikl:
https://howstupidarewe.blog/2018/07/28/alternate-hypothosis/#more-885

Last week Steven Colbert expressed hiz feelingz uv 'weirdness' fogging up the world sins Nov 2016.

Its a good word for it. Weird coverz the parts uv this that dont make any sens, even if you arent a Fox eko chamber inhabitant. All sorts uv stuff that youd expect to get Trump axed immediatly, even accounting for traitorous GoP party loyalty. Stuff like wut 6string mentioned in the other thred about the IRS - They know everything, so why havent they strung him up by hiz ballz? (along with Jared Kushner et al)



To the best of my knowledge: The IRS is not authorized to bring charges on any US citizen unless there have been Federal Tax Laws broken. Him borrowing millions from Russian Oligarchs or any Kremlin contacts, that have the wink-wink nudge-nudge net effect of making him their b*tch, is not against any US Tax law that I know of.



That's not the point. The point is that they know everything that was in there. The point is that even though the taxes were not released to the public, it's not a secret what is in them to the governing bodies that would be allowed to do anything about it.

Regardless of how powerful Trump might believe himself to be, he cannot shield himself from scrutiny over what is in those tax returns. He certainly had zero power to do anything about it before he was elected.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maybe I'm wrong with my own theories about what is really going on, but when you look under the table and see this stuff happening everyday rather than focusing on where the MSM wants us to focus, I see a lot of good things happening.



Like? And not because they would happen no matter who was in the White House, but directly because of Trump. Cites to match claims expected as always.



Like, pay attention when I write something. You've already said on quite a few occasions that you ignore everything I write, so I'm not going to bother regurgitating it for you simply because you demand that I do right now and offer citations.

It's already been written here. I don't edit or delete any of my posts. If you actually give a shit, go find it. If not, then go converse with yourself.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 29, 2018 12:27 PM

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The only pozitiv I can see from Trump's actionz in this country iz that he iz hurting the GoPs. They are the bad guyz. The fact that he iz doing it by aksident negates any credit to him.

That hinjiz on hiz tax returnz being completely truthful, Captain, wich iz very unlikely considering the level uv involvment with Russian and other money laundering operationz. Virtually impossible.

And even without being a tax attorney, I can say with confidens that there must be sumthing amongst the 70,000 pajez uv the tax code agenst earning money illegally.

You cant hav bizness activity codez for drug dealing, mugging, bank robbery, snake oil salez, etc. The catagoriez coud be vage enuf to cover all sorts uv stuff, but how do you enter 'mugged pedestrianz' to explain your 200,000$ income? The code for my company, ZOL inc. iz 332700. IIRC its sumthing about the metal working industry.

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Sunday, July 29, 2018 1:18 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's not the point. The point is that they know everything that was in there. The point is that even though the taxes were not released to the public, it's not a secret what is in them to the governing bodies that would be allowed to do anything about it.

Regardless of how powerful Trump might believe himself to be, he cannot shield himself from scrutiny over what is in those tax returns. He certainly had zero power to do anything about it before he was elected.

Whatever Mueller found in Trump's tax returns, he will keep it secret until the GOP is a minority in the Senate. If he were to issue a report now showing tax fraud by Trump, the Senate would throw the report into the trash and Trump would fire Rod Rosenstein, Jeff Sessions, Robert Mueller and everyone at the FBI that worked with Mueller. Trump would go berserk because he'd have to pay back tax money.

"I believe Mueller has already obtained tax returns in the Russia investigation," Renato Mariotti, a former federal prosecutor in the Securities and Commodities Fraud Section of the U.S. Attorney's Office in Chicago, said on Twitter on Aug. 10. He later wrote in The Hill he often used tax returns in his own federal investigations, and that it is almost a necessity in an investigation like Mueller's. It's also done without knowledge of the subjects of the investigation.

"A federal prosecutor obtains tax returns by seeking an ex parte order from a federal judge. That means that the person who is being investigated doesn't know that the tax returns are being sought or if the judge issues the order," he said. "Basically, it's done in secret."

www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-09-18/robert-mueller-l
ikely-has-donald-trumps-tax-returns


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, July 29, 2018 1:24 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's not the point. The point is that they know everything that was in there. The point is that even though the taxes were not released to the public, it's not a secret what is in them to the governing bodies that would be allowed to do anything about it.

Regardless of how powerful Trump might believe himself to be, he cannot shield himself from scrutiny over what is in those tax returns. He certainly had zero power to do anything about it before he was elected.

Whatever Mueller found in Trump's tax returns, he will keep it secret until the GOP is a minority in the Senate. If he were to issue a report now showing tax fraud by Trump, the Senate would throw the report into the trash and Trump would fire Rod Rosenstein, Jeff Sessions, Robert Mueller and everyone at the FBI that worked with Mueller. Trump would go berserk because he'd have to pay back tax money.



This is a bi-partisan problem that needs to be addressed. If what you are saying here is true, then it should be fixed immediately. No one person from either side should be above the law.

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"I believe Mueller has already obtained tax returns in the Russia investigation," Renato Mariotti, a former federal prosecutor in the Securities and Commodities Fraud Section of the U.S. Attorney's Office in Chicago, said on Twitter on Aug. 10.



Good. If it's true. You'll hear no complaints from me.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 29, 2018 2:05 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

This is a bi-partisan problem that needs to be addressed. If what you are saying here is true, then it should be fixed immediately. No one person from either side should be above the law.

Trump's Supreme Court pick says the President can't be indicted, placing Trump above the law. Kavanaugh may reverse that opinion in order to get Senate approval, but once he is on the Court he can reverse his previous reversal because the Senate can't touch him.

www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2018/07/11/brett-kavanaugh-pres
ident-indicted-709641


Trump went berserk today: If the Democrats (why does he always blame them, not the GOP?) don't pass a spending bill for the Texas/Mexico Wall, Trump will shutdown the government. The GOP ought to tell Trump they will shut him down if he makes one more lawless threat to harm America if he can't legally get what he wants.

www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/29/trump-tweets-hed-shut-down-governm
ent-if-democrats-dont-fund-us-mexico-wall.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 30, 2018 12:05 AM

SIGNYM

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They know everything, so why havent they strung him up by hiz ballz? (along with Jared Kushner et al)
Because they'd have to string Hillary up by her short and curlies too.

You may not recall this, but long before Trump was ever elected, I opined that he and Hillary were morally about the same, with Trump perhaps being a bit less tainted partly because he didn't have many years in office to run a corrupt and traitorous money-grubbing operation.



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Monday, July 30, 2018 1:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

This is a bi-partisan problem that needs to be addressed. If what you are saying here is true, then it should be fixed immediately. No one person from either side should be above the law.

Trump's Supreme Court pick says the President can't be indicted, placing Trump above the law. Kavanaugh may reverse that opinion in order to get Senate approval, but once he is on the Court he can reverse his previous reversal because the Senate can't touch him.

www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2018/07/11/brett-kavanaugh-pres
ident-indicted-709641



This time, I want you to actually read the article you link instead of just the headline and then get back to me.

I'll wait.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 30, 2018 4:57 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Like, pay attention when I write something. You've already said on quite a few occasions that you ignore everything I write, so I'm not going to bother regurgitating it for you simply because you demand that I do right now and offer citations.



You're such a baby. How hard is it to type, "he's improving blank?"

No, I don't read everything you write because you say the dumbest sh*t anyone has ever posted on this board. Most of my responses would be, "you say the dumbest sh*t anyone has ever posted on this board." Occasionally I decide to give you a chance and ask you what you mean by what you've said, like now, to see if maybe you're not as full of sh*t as you seem to be. And what's your response? "Whaaaaa ....."

So, you say, "I see a lot of good things happening..." Like? Or are you just completely full of shit?

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Monday, July 30, 2018 5:16 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Like, pay attention when I write something. You've already said on quite a few occasions that you ignore everything I write, so I'm not going to bother regurgitating it for you simply because you demand that I do right now and offer citations.



You're such a baby. How hard is it to type, "he's improving blank?"

No, I don't read everything you write because you say the dumbest sh*t anyone has ever posted on this board. Most of my responses would be, "you say the dumbest sh*t anyone has ever posted on this board." Occasionally I decide to give you a chance and ask you what you mean by what you've said, like now, to see if maybe you're not as full of sh*t as you seem to be. And what's your response? "Whaaaaa ....."

So, you say, "I see a lot of good things happening..." Like? Or are you just completely full of shit?



It's fucking self referential to the post, idiot.

You don't even have to go quote farming. Read the fucking post again.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 30, 2018 6:54 AM

JO753

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Because they'd have to string Hillary up by her short and curlies too.



That assumez the IRS iz on Hillary'z team. Got anything to support that?

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You may not recall this, but long before Trump was ever elected, I opined that he and Hillary were morally about the same, with Trump perhaps being a bit less tainted partly because he didn't have many years in office to run a corrupt and traitorous money-grubbing operation.


No need to remind us, you are well established az a Clinton hater.

Near az I can tell, Hillary iz a good 'guy'. All the real dirt on her iz splatter from Bill and the rest iz bogus GoP mudslinging. She iz tuff, maybe even mean, but thats to be expected from her history.

Trying to equate her with a sleezy con man iz laffable.

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Monday, July 30, 2018 6:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by JO753:

Trying to equate her with a sleezy con man iz laffable.



It's only laughable if your on one "side" or the other and you believe in only what you want to believe. I'm of the mind that they're both crooks.

Hey. Maybe we'll actually find out the answer to that question one way or another. Both Trump and the Clinton Foundation are under investigation right now.



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Monday, July 30, 2018 2:27 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Like, pay attention when I write something. You've already said on quite a few occasions that you ignore everything I write, so I'm not going to bother regurgitating it for you simply because you demand that I do right now and offer citations.



You're such a baby. How hard is it to type, "he's improving blank?"

No, I don't read everything you write because you say the dumbest sh*t anyone has ever posted on this board. Most of my responses would be, "you say the dumbest sh*t anyone has ever posted on this board." Occasionally I decide to give you a chance and ask you what you mean by what you've said, like now, to see if maybe you're not as full of sh*t as you seem to be. And what's your response? "Whaaaaa ....."

So, you say, "I see a lot of good things happening..." Like? Or are you just completely full of shit?



It's fucking self referential to the post, idiot.

You don't even have to go quote farming. Read the fucking post again.




Huh? Which post? Farming? What?

How about you make it real easy for me since you are so smart?

You said: "I see a lot of good things happening..."
And then I said: "Oh, like what?"
And then you said: "Like..."

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Monday, July 30, 2018 2:31 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Like, pay attention when I write something. You've already said on quite a few occasions that you ignore everything I write, so I'm not going to bother regurgitating it for you simply because you demand that I do right now and offer citations.



You're such a baby. How hard is it to type, "he's improving blank?"

No, I don't read everything you write because you say the dumbest sh*t anyone has ever posted on this board. Most of my responses would be, "you say the dumbest sh*t anyone has ever posted on this board." Occasionally I decide to give you a chance and ask you what you mean by what you've said, like now, to see if maybe you're not as full of sh*t as you seem to be. And what's your response? "Whaaaaa ....."

So, you say, "I see a lot of good things happening..." Like? Or are you just completely full of shit?



It's fucking self referential to the post, idiot.

You don't even have to go quote farming. Read the fucking post again.




Huh? Which post? Farming? What?

How about you make it real easy for me since you are so smart?

You said: "I see a lot of good things happening..."
And then I said: "Oh, like what?"
And then you said: "Like..."



Shame on you G for tricking Jack into revealing he is an idiot by asking him a question.

Can you see me smiling?

T


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Monday, July 30, 2018 4:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Like, pay attention when I write something. You've already said on quite a few occasions that you ignore everything I write, so I'm not going to bother regurgitating it for you simply because you demand that I do right now and offer citations.



You're such a baby. How hard is it to type, "he's improving blank?"

No, I don't read everything you write because you say the dumbest sh*t anyone has ever posted on this board. Most of my responses would be, "you say the dumbest sh*t anyone has ever posted on this board." Occasionally I decide to give you a chance and ask you what you mean by what you've said, like now, to see if maybe you're not as full of sh*t as you seem to be. And what's your response? "Whaaaaa ....."

So, you say, "I see a lot of good things happening..." Like? Or are you just completely full of shit?



It's fucking self referential to the post, idiot.

You don't even have to go quote farming. Read the fucking post again.




Huh? Which post? Farming? What?

How about you make it real easy for me since you are so smart?

You said: "I see a lot of good things happening..."
And then I said: "Oh, like what?"
And then you said: "Like..."



In my first post, genius.

The one you originally skimmed and missed the point.

Try again.


The "Like" was a poke at your one word sentence "Like?"

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 30, 2018 4:59 PM

THG


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

In July of 2018 I still view this as a very positive thing when it comes to the Trump Presidency. Not only does he drive the Lefties absolutely insane, but leaders in his own party hate him as well.




One troll praising another.


T


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Monday, July 30, 2018 8:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

In July of 2018 I still view this as a very positive thing when it comes to the Trump Presidency. Not only does he drive the Lefties absolutely insane, but leaders in his own party hate him as well.




One troll praising another.


T




Yeah. Pretty much.

Don't forget this part too. It's more important than the one you quoted.

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And how many high profile people from both sides have either quit, been fired, or have gone to prison since he's been in office? How many compared to any presidential administration before him?


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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 8:40 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by THG:Shame on you G for tricking Jack into revealing he is an idiot by asking him a question.

Can you see me smiling?



Sad isn't it? I see Trump's poll numbers and can't believe it. How can so many people be so ignorant? I keep going back to that as a bigger issue than Trump in the WH. They are both bad of course, but the values that a lot of people have in this country have turned to sh*t. I can't understand this change from my parents generation. Are things pretty much the same, just the Internet and TV just reveal more of it? I know they like to promote the darker side of mankind as a way to get eyeballs, so it's hard to make a true and accurate comparison. I know this a-hole in the WH doesn't bring out the best in people.

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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:Shame on you G for tricking Jack into revealing he is an idiot by asking him a question.

Can you see me smiling?



Sad isn't it? I see Trump's poll numbers and can't believe it. How can so many people be so ignorant? I keep going back to that as a bigger issue than Trump in the WH. They are both bad of course, but the values that a lot of people have in this country have turned to sh*t. I can't understand this change from my parents generation. Are things pretty much the same, just the Internet and TV just reveal more of it? I know they like to promote the darker side of mankind as a way to get eyeballs, so it's hard to make a true and accurate comparison. I know this a-hole in the WH doesn't bring out the best in people.

Demographic change is fracturing our politics. This is what happens in moments like now, moments when a majority, the white Republicans in America, feel their dominance beginning to fail. It connects the wall to keep Mexicans out, the ban to keep Muslims away, the birtherism meant to prove that a Black couldn’t possibly have been a legitimate president.

Back in 2013, the Center for American Progress, PolicyLink, and the Rockefeller Foundation surveyed Americans and found that the median participant believed the country was 49 percent nonwhite. America is not there, but it is going in that direction and white Republicans want it to stop immediately. But the non-Hispanic white population is expected to fall, dipping from 199 million in 2020 to 179 million in 2060. The Census Bureau minces no words here: “The only group projected to shrink is the non-Hispanic White population,” they report.

More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/30/17505406/trump-obama-race-po
litics-immigration


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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Demographic change is fracturing our politics. This is what happens in moments like now, moments when a majority, the white Republicans in America, feel their dominance beginning to fail.
And there is SECOND, thumping identity politics AGAIN, instead of discussing What are America's biggest problems, and how can we fix them?

But by SECOND's own quote (below, in red) we can see why SECOND wants to stir up pointless dissension among Americans. In fact, SECOND is doing a better job fracturing American politics than the (so far invisible) RUSSIAN TROLLS!!! that everyone keeps whining about.

Keep up the good work, SECOND!

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:54 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by THG:Shame on you G for tricking Jack into revealing he is an idiot by asking him a question.

Can you see me smiling?



Sad isn't it? I see Trump's poll numbers and can't believe it. How can so many people be so ignorant? I keep going back to that as a bigger issue than Trump in the WH. They are both bad of course, but the values that a lot of people have in this country have turned to sh*t. I can't understand this change from my parents generation. Are things pretty much the same, just the Internet and TV just reveal more of it? I know they like to promote the darker side of mankind as a way to get eyeballs, so it's hard to make a true and accurate comparison. I know this a-hole in the WH doesn't bring out the best in people.

Demographic change is fracturing our politics. This is what happens in moments like now, moments when a majority, the white Republicans in America, feel their dominance beginning to fail. It connects the wall to keep Mexicans out, the ban to keep Muslims away, the birtherism meant to prove that a Black couldn’t possibly have been a legitimate president.

Back in 2013, the Center for American Progress, PolicyLink, and the Rockefeller Foundation surveyed Americans and found that the median participant believed the country was 49 percent nonwhite. America is not there, but it is going in that direction and white Republicans want it to stop immediately. But the non-Hispanic white population is expected to fall, dipping from 199 million in 2020 to 179 million in 2060. The Census Bureau minces no words here: “The only group projected to shrink is the non-Hispanic White population,” they report.

More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/30/17505406/trump-obama-race-po
litics-immigration







Being white I can tell you the Republicans have spent decades claiming their party is not full of racists. Well now theirs no denying it. Not all are racists but as many as 25% may be and that's a lot. Then there are the tribalist who just hate democrats. They would destroy our democracy before compromising on anything. This group would include the racists. Finally, there are those who for profit do all manner of foul things and vote for those who support them.

Whats wrong with the democrats is that they always go to far left. And while doing so cater to those who would change this democracy into more of a socialist country. I believe that is driven by immigrants void of the knowledge and history of this country. What it took to build it and what it will take to maintain it. Democrats have forgotten how to represent both urban and rural populations. The democrats kowtow to the urban.

While both the republican and democratic parties bases practice tribalism both political parties contain many that are decent people. That said, thank god for the sensible middle.

T


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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 12:35 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 12:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You people are so sad and predictable. At this point I can almost write each of your individual responses before you do.


And you're not the middle, T. Stop claiming that you are.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 2:44 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Demographic change is fracturing our politics. This is what happens in moments like now, moments when a majority, the white Republicans in America, feel their dominance beginning to fail.
And there is SECOND, thumping identity politics AGAIN, instead of discussing What are America's biggest problems, and how can we fix them?

But by SECOND's own quote (below, in red) we can see why SECOND wants to stir up pointless dissension among Americans. In fact, SECOND is doing a better job fracturing American politics than the (so far invisible) RUSSIAN TROLLS!!! that everyone keeps whining about.

Keep up the good work, SECOND!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

So, Signym, you completely reject the fact that whites, the ones that vote for Trump, fear that whites are losing control of America and have decided to lash out irrationally and fearfully? There is proof that the bigger the racist the bigger the Trump fan.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/30/17505406/trump-obama-race-po
litics-immigration


There have been books written about crazy, fearful, irrational, racist whites loving Trump. Signym rejects it all. Instead, Signym wants to discuss "America's biggest problems, and how can we fix them", as if 62,979,879 crazy people running around with guns and shouting nonsense about the sacredness of the 2nd Amendment is not the biggest problem any country has ever had. Even bigger than when the same kind of people were shouting nonsense about slavery being good business and beneficial for the slaves.
www.newsweek.com/trump-impeachment-approval-ratings-contested-election
-results-714938


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 3:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Demographic change is fracturing our politics. This is what happens in moments like now, moments when a majority, the white Republicans in America, feel their dominance beginning to fail.
And there is SECOND, thumping identity politics AGAIN, instead of discussing What are America's biggest problems, and how can we fix them?

But by SECOND's own quote (below, in red) we can see why SECOND wants to stir up pointless dissension among Americans. In fact, SECOND is doing a better job fracturing American politics than the (so far invisible) RUSSIAN TROLLS!!! that everyone keeps whining about.

Keep up the good work, SECOND!

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

So, Signym, you completely reject the fact that whites, the ones that vote for Trump, fear that whites are losing control of America and have decided to lash out irrationally and fearfully? There is proof that the bigger the racist the bigger the Trump fan.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/30/17505406/trump-obama-race-po
litics-immigration


There have been books written about crazy, fearful, irrational, racist whites loving Trump. Signym rejects it all. Instead, Signym wants to discuss "America's biggest problems, and how can we fix them", as if 62,979,879 crazy people running around with guns and shouting nonsense about the sacredness of the 2nd Amendment is not the biggest problem any country has ever had. Even bigger than when the same kind of people were shouting nonsense about slavery being good business and beneficial for the slaves.
www.newsweek.com/trump-impeachment-approval-ratings-contested-election
-results-714938


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



And all Second does is apply racism to 60 million Trump voters.

Never once considering his behavior mirrors what he is accusing others of.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 4:10 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You people are so sad and predictable. At this point I can almost write each of your individual responses before you do.



Would it go something like: We hate lying racists that want to steal form the treasury and and force the poor to go without to cover the difference? That we hate having criminals in the White House that do great damage to this country internationally? I can go on and on but you already know where we stand, right? God, we're such bastards!

Here, let me do a 6ix:

"I don't give a shit about anything as long as my crapper works and I get to poke some libtards!"

lol

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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 5:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You people are so sad and predictable. At this point I can almost write each of your individual responses before you do.



Would it go something like: We hate lying racists that want to steal form the treasury and and force the poor to go without to cover the difference? That we hate having criminals in the White House that do great damage to this country internationally? I can go on and on but you already know where we stand, right? God, we're such bastards!

Here, let me do a 6ix:

"I don't give a shit about anything as long as my crapper works and I get to poke some libtards!"

lol



I don't use the term libtards.

You guys on the other hand personally attack me and others here with every single post.

It never fails.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 8:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'd like to add that anybody paying attention would know that I've been fairly Trump-Negative around here, particularly when it comes to economics and how he is now lying about how good the numbers are now that he is President. The very same numbers that he rightfully said that the Obama Administration was lying about.

There are some very legitimate reasons to think that Trump is not a great president without you guys having to make something new up everyday.


As for this thread, I thought it was an interesting idea. All I was doing was saying that it was basically an offshoot of something that I've been saying has been happening from the start. One of the only measurable positives so far of the Trump administration.


The only reason that anything became argumentative in here is because somebody who didn't know how to read came in here and made insults and demands. You'll see this breakdown occurs in almost every RWED thread.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 31, 2018 8:57 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You guys on the other hand personally attack me and others here with every single post.



Then you should probably go somewhere else. Or just stay the hell out of RWED, for starters.

You are still playing the martyr. "Whoa is me for they are against me" seems to be your favorite modus operandi next to "SEE, see how the person who is against me is evil??"

NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR PITY PLOYS! And you still do them over and over and over.....


Seriously, you make drunken ramblings for years and you have no idea what you even said and then one day wave a wand that says "Oop, sober now...you must accept me for the genius I am". (Nevermind those comments you still make when mad that are wholly ignorant or insane) You don't keep up with basic news, and you don't even seem to be able to keep up with a basic conversation without flaking out.

You might wanna find a hobby. Try soap carving or something.

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Wednesday, August 1, 2018 6:22 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

The only reason that anything became argumentative in here is because somebody who didn't know how to read came in here and made insults and demands. You'll see this breakdown occurs in almost every RWED thread.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And it will continue to happen until the plug is pulled on fireflyfans.net

Trump spoke last night to a rally of whites. “If you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card, you need ID,” Trump said at the event at the Florida State Fairgrounds in Tampa. “You go out and you want to buy anything, you need ID and you need your picture.” The crowd cheered!

That doesn’t seem so important to be worth a cheer, does it? But the Associated Press did not report that the white crowd wants to keep niggers and mexicans, (i.e. Democrats) from voting. Only Trump’s words were in the story, not the racist motivation for Trump’s words. Make America White Again!

Also, Trump again pledged to shutdown the government if Congress does not pay for the Mexico/Texas Wall. More cheers from the whites!

At the Trump rally there were two signs that said Blacks for Trump 2020. If you click the link it says “See Putin say he will start Nuclear War with America If Hillary Wins Presidency” (I can assume that means we are not dead only because Hillary did not win. Praise Trump. Thank him for saving us from death last year.) https://blacksfortrump2020.com/

www.apnews.com/86bbb02de5e249eba482c4d2fb651120/Promoting-voter-ID,-Tr
ump-says-ID-needed-to-buy-groceries


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, August 1, 2018 7:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You guys on the other hand personally attack me and others here with every single post.



Then you should probably go somewhere else. Or just stay the hell out of RWED, for starters.

You are still playing the martyr. "Whoa is me for they are against me" seems to be your favorite modus operandi next to "SEE, see how the person who is against me is evil??"

NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR PITY PLOYS! And you still do them over and over and over.....


Seriously, you make drunken ramblings for years and you have no idea what you even said and then one day wave a wand that says "Oop, sober now...you must accept me for the genius I am". (Nevermind those comments you still make when mad that are wholly ignorant or insane) You don't keep up with basic news, and you don't even seem to be able to keep up with a basic conversation without flaking out.

You might wanna find a hobby. Try soap carving or something.



I didn't wave a magic wand to get sober. Nobody who gets sober does. You wouldn't know the first thing about how big a deal that is, so you should probably keep your comments about it to yourself if they're going to be negative.

It's been 20 months today, by the way.



I'm not playing the martyr. I honestly couldn't give two shits what the idiots who go around calling everybody a Nazi or a Putin Puppet everyday have to say about me.

My point is that when you people use those terms it means you've already lost the argument. You have nothing legitimate to say, so rather than come up with something you hurl a baseless insult that does nothing positive.

It's not just people here. It's everywhere on the internet.



I've got plenty of hobbies, BTW. I'm learning new things everyday. I'm working out. I'm fixing things that should have been fixed many years ago. I improve myself and my situation in life every single day.

Ask yourself... What have you done with your life since November 9th, 2016?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 1, 2018 7:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

The only reason that anything became argumentative in here is because somebody who didn't know how to read came in here and made insults and demands. You'll see this breakdown occurs in almost every RWED thread.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And it will continue to happen until the plug is pulled on fireflyfans.net

Trump spoke last night to a rally of whites. “If you go out and you want to buy groceries, you need a picture on a card, you need ID,” Trump said at the event at the Florida State Fairgrounds in Tampa. “You go out and you want to buy anything, you need ID and you need your picture.” The crowd cheered!

That doesn’t seem so important to be worth a cheer, does it? But the Associated Press did not report that the white crowd wants to keep niggers and mexicans, (i.e. Democrats) from voting. Only Trump’s words were in the story, not the racist motivation for Trump’s words. Make America White Again!

Also, Trump again pledged to shutdown the government if Congress does not pay for the Mexico/Texas Wall. More cheers from the whites!

At the Trump rally there were two signs that said Blacks for Trump 2020. If you click the link it says “See Putin say he will start Nuclear War with America If Hillary Wins Presidency” (I can assume that means we are not dead only because Hillary did not win. Praise Trump. Thank him for saving us from death last year.) https://blacksfortrump2020.com/

www.apnews.com/86bbb02de5e249eba482c4d2fb651120/Promoting-voter-ID,-Tr
ump-says-ID-needed-to-buy-groceries


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



This is the type of shit I'm talking about right here, Second.

People want to make sure that only citizens are voting, period.

But then you've got to turn it into a racist issue. Why does it seem that everything is about race with you Leftist racists?

I've seen a 70 year old man get turned away when he was trying to buy a bottle of booze because he didn't have his ID on him.

Nobody should be allowed to vote without a picture ID. They've never been easier to get. My only caveat to that is that they should be free so nobody can legitimately complain that they couldn't vote because they couldn't afford to buy the ID.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, August 1, 2018 10:03 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Not everyone is born in a hospital and gets an official birth certificate. Not everyone can afford to give up work time and take a cab over many trips for many miles to get to the one place where they can get the voter ID. And I don't think you seen some of those voter ID requirements, forms, and restrictions - let alone the fees.

If voter ID were some neutrally designed process that everyone could participate in to secure their vote and secure the vote - and if it was permanent, and valid state-to-state - I wouldn't have an objection.

But many procedures are specifically designed to be difficult, restrictive, exclusionary, under the pretext of voter security.




THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Wednesday, August 1, 2018 7:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Not everyone is born in a hospital and gets an official birth certificate. Not everyone can afford to give up work time and take a cab over many trips for many miles to get to the one place where they can get the voter ID. And I don't think you seen some of those voter ID requirements, forms, and restrictions - let alone the fees.

If voter ID were some neutrally designed process that everyone could participate in to secure their vote and secure the vote - and if it was permanent, and valid state-to-state - I wouldn't have an objection.

But many procedures are specifically designed to be difficult, restrictive, exclusionary, under the pretext of voter security.




THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."


Then fix the process.

It's always taken me no longer than 15 minutes to get an ID. Don't know what freaky rules you have in Cali.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 2, 2018 6:41 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Not everyone is born in a hospital and gets an official birth certificate. Not everyone can afford to give up work time and take a cab over many trips for many miles to get to the one place where they can get the voter ID. And I don't think you seen some of those voter ID requirements, forms, and restrictions - let alone the fees.

If voter ID were some neutrally designed process that everyone could participate in to secure their vote and secure the vote - and if it was permanent, and valid state-to-state - I wouldn't have an objection.

But many procedures are specifically designed to be difficult, restrictive, exclusionary, under the pretext of voter security.




THANK YOU!

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Thursday, August 2, 2018 6:44 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

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Then fix the process.



Ummmm... some people (Reps) don't want it fixed, that's kinda the point.

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Thursday, August 2, 2018 7:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Then fix the process.



Ummmm... some people (Reps) don't want it fixed, that's kinda the point.



I'd say the Dems are the ones that don't want it fixed. If you look at states where no voter ID is required, those are the states that typically lean Democrat.

Getting your ID in Indiana is practically hassle free. They require an ID to vote.

Make it easy then nobody can bitch that it's not fair.


These people manage to make it to the voting booths. No reason they can't make it to the DMV once every 5 to 10 years to get a picture ID if voting means that much to them.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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