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Sunday, September 9, 2018 3:41 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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On the Leftists newest "Hero", John McCain...

As described in 2008 by the Huffington Post.

Quote:

McCain’s “heroism” stems uniquely from the fact that he was an obstreperous prisoner of war unwilling to cooperate with his captors. Undeniably thugs, McCain’s jailers resembled the jailers at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in their sadism and lack of respect for international conventions guaranteeing rights to enemy combatants. That he refused an early release and was not “broken” by his captors does not make him George Washington, Sergeant York or even Audie Murphy.

McCain’s earlier and post-War years were ones of privilege, stature and mischief. He was by his own and all other accounts a cocky, drunken, gambling, whore mongering flyboy whose positions before and after the Vietnam War were arranged for by his family connections. His years as Naval Liaison to the US Senate allowed him to charm and ingratiate himself in the corridors of power which led to a vacant House seat being arranged for him in Arizona, where he had never visited let alone lived.

His family’s DNA is war. The McCain family history of grandfather, father, McCain himself and now his son being at war is essential to understanding his psyche.

He is Sparta and the rest of us are Athens.

A President McCain could well lead to the end of The American Century.



https://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-walden/et-tu-mccain_b_97988.htm
l









Plenty more where this came from. The Leftist's hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I'm just getting started.

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Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

McCain’s Smear Campaign Will Have an Impact Long After Election Day

Talk about the “fierce urgency of now.” While that phrase might have been been adopted by Barack Obama, it is equally suited — albeit differently applied — to describe the destructive campaign being undertaken by John McCain. Because McCain seems to be gunning to win the election, all future consequences be damned.

In the last few weeks, with McCain’s poor handling of the financial crisis, poor debate performances, and cynical pick of Sarah Palin as his running mate torpedoing his chances of winning the presidency, McCain unleashed himself and his minions on a dirty and reckless path of attacking Obama with lies, distortions and smears. McCain and Palin both repeatedly invoke socialism when describing Obama’s economic policies, even though you would be hard-pressed to find a reputable economist who would agree with that assertion, at least without lumping every president since Franklin Roosevelt into the socialism club. (And that doesn’t even take into account the most socialism-reminiscent thing to happen in recent history, the bank and corporate bailouts that were supported by George W. Bush and the Republican leaders of Congress. Are they socialists too?)



https://www.huffingtonpost.com/mitchell-bard/mccains-smear-campaign-wi
_b_137284.html



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Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:12 AM

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Quote:

Gook: John McCain’s Racism and Why It Matters

he UpTake‘s Chuck Olsen interviews author Irwin Tang about his book, “Gook: John McCain’s Racism and Why It Matters.” McCain first used the work “gook” in the mass media in his 1973 article for U.S. News & World Report.

The word appears 12 times in the article and is available online here. Most recently, McCain used the term in his 2000 presidential campaign, as documented by the San Francisco Chronicle. To learn more about Mr. Tang’s book, which also details McCain’s connection to white supremacist groups, visit his web site.



https://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-uptake/gook-john-mccains-racism_b_1
14401.html


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Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:15 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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McCain's Secret, Questionable Record: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-klein/mccains-secret-questionab
_b_107409.html


Did McCain Help Bait Russia into Georgia?: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-lauria/did-mccain-help-bait-russ_b_
119395.html


Conduct Unbecoming: John McCain’s Dishonorable Endgame: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-cohan/conduct-unbecoming-john-m_b_
133856.html


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Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:59 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


"Jane you ignorant slut" Dan Aykroyd, SNL, circa 1970s

Richard M. Walden is a Los Angeles-based civil rights lawyer who served on active duty in the US Army in 1968-1969.

Hey Six, the writer of said article is a "lefty" - kind of shoots holes in
your little, puny rant. Besides McCain was a devout conservative. We do have
a consolation prize though.....tickets to Trump's 2021 Inauguration, Bwahhahaha!!!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
On the Leftists newest "Hero", John McCain...

As described in 2008 by the Huffington Post.

Quote:

McCain’s “heroism” stems uniquely from the fact that he was an obstreperous prisoner of war unwilling to cooperate with his captors. Undeniably thugs, McCain’s jailers resembled the jailers at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in their sadism and lack of respect for international conventions guaranteeing rights to enemy combatants. That he refused an early release and was not “broken” by his captors does not make him George Washington, Sergeant York or even Audie Murphy.

McCain’s earlier and post-War years were ones of privilege, stature and mischief. He was by his own and all other accounts a cocky, drunken, gambling, whore mongering flyboy whose positions before and after the Vietnam War were arranged for by his family connections. His years as Naval Liaison to the US Senate allowed him to charm and ingratiate himself in the corridors of power which led to a vacant House seat being arranged for him in Arizona, where he had never visited let alone lived.

His family’s DNA is war. The McCain family history of grandfather, father, McCain himself and now his son being at war is essential to understanding his psyche.

He is Sparta and the rest of us are Athens.

A President McCain could well lead to the end of The American Century.



https://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-walden/et-tu-mccain_b_97988.htm
l









Plenty more where this came from. The Leftist's hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I'm just getting started.


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Sunday, September 9, 2018 5:17 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


"Some folks are born made to the wave the flag
Ooh, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays 'Hail to the Chief'
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord"

-Creedence Clearwater Revival, circa 1969

Quote:

It’s all too late now. Not even the eloquent, stinging words of Powell on Meet the Press condemning the descent into the gutter of the McCain campaign can undo the damage that has already been done. McCain, in his tunnel-like view of the race, with its damn-the-future-win-today approach, has already released the poison of smear into the American atmosphere. It’s out there, forcing us to revisit McCarthy-like lies about socialism and Civil War- and Civil Rights-era notions of “real” Americans and being “not like us.”


Again, quoting a "lefty" writer. What gives?


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

McCain’s Smear Campaign Will Have an Impact Long After Election Day

Talk about the “fierce urgency of now.” While that phrase might have been been adopted by Barack Obama, it is equally suited — albeit differently applied — to describe the destructive campaign being undertaken by John McCain. Because McCain seems to be gunning to win the election, all future consequences be damned.

In the last few weeks, with McCain’s poor handling of the financial crisis, poor debate performances, and cynical pick of Sarah Palin as his running mate torpedoing his chances of winning the presidency, McCain unleashed himself and his minions on a dirty and reckless path of attacking Obama with lies, distortions and smears. McCain and Palin both repeatedly invoke socialism when describing Obama’s economic policies, even though you would be hard-pressed to find a reputable economist who would agree with that assertion, at least without lumping every president since Franklin Roosevelt into the socialism club. (And that doesn’t even take into account the most socialism-reminiscent thing to happen in recent history, the bank and corporate bailouts that were supported by George W. Bush and the Republican leaders of Congress. Are they socialists too?)



https://www.huffingtonpost.com/mitchell-bard/mccains-smear-campaign-wi
_b_137284.html



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Sunday, September 9, 2018 5:29 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


You mean McCain was a racist!?

"Oh my God, what a fucking nightmare" Mona Lisa Vito, My Cousin Vinny, 1992

Of course Republicans are racist, well Duh! Your orange fucking scumbag prick of a dickface, Trump, is racist. Tell me something new (and please don't say
"but Obama" - that shit is getting old).

Who gives a fuck!

I have a question there Six. Do you get paid by the word?


sgg

P.S. You're really reaching way back aren't you.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Gook: John McCain’s Racism and Why It Matters

he UpTake‘s Chuck Olsen interviews author Irwin Tang about his book, “Gook: John McCain’s Racism and Why It Matters.” McCain first used the work “gook” in the mass media in his 1973 article for U.S. News & World Report.

The word appears 12 times in the article and is available online here. Most recently, McCain used the term in his 2000 presidential campaign, as documented by the San Francisco Chronicle. To learn more about Mr. Tang’s book, which also details McCain’s connection to white supremacist groups, visit his web site.



https://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-uptake/gook-john-mccains-racism_b_1
14401.html


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Sunday, September 9, 2018 8:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I'll sum up the fact that the point of this thread completely went over SGG's head with this single quote he put here:

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

Again, quoting a "lefty" writer. What gives?



Of course. Not only were they all "Lefty writers", but they all came from uber-left-wing site Huffington Post.


As for your last question, in a postscript...

Quote:

P.S. You're really reaching way back aren't you.


That was my other point.

I've said on several occasions in here that in order for Leftists to be as hypocritical as they are, they need to have a terrible memory or intentionally forget what they said just yesterday, let alone a decade ago. So I can imagine how much it bothers you that I'm showing you stuff from 10 years ago that was said about McCain when he was running for office against Obama by the very same Leftists that are calling him a Hero today.

Oops. Sorry to bring up Obama here. I know how off limits that is with you. But do realize that he has no blame here other than the fact that he was running for president on the Democratic ticket at the time.

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Sunday, September 9, 2018 11:18 AM

REAVERFAN


I'm still looking for all these "lefties" who love McCain. Not seeing them.

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Sunday, September 9, 2018 11:42 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
I'm still looking for all these "lefties" who love McCain. Not seeing them.



Ah... Selective Perspective. Also part of the modern Leftist's stock and trade.



Here ya go...


Fast Forward to 2018 reporting by HuffPo, with a little bit of Vox thrown in for good measure.

Republicans Can Honor John McCain By Putting America Before Trump: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-john-mccain-republicans-t
rump_us_5b82df26e4b0348586018d2c


The Best Stories About John McCain: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-mccain-stories_us_5b82ac96e4
b0348586015e56


Barack Obama Reacts To John McCain’s Death: He Was Faithful To ‘Something Higher’: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/barack-obama-joe-biden-john-mccai
n-death_us_5b81fb38e4b0348586011c51









Watch John McCain defend Barack Obama against a racist voter in 2008: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/25/17782572/john-mccain
-barack-obama-statement-2008-video


Wait...what? But HuffPo said back in 2008 that he was a racist and was showing his links to White Supremacist groups.





The fight over renaming the Russell Senate Office Building after John McCain, explained: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/29/17792592/russell-sen
ate-office-building-mccain


Quote:

Soon after the announcement of Sen. John McCain’s death, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer came out with a striking suggestion to rename the Russell Senate Office Building after the late Arizona senator.

It would be a dramatic step, to be sure. There aren’t many congressional office buildings around, and a lot of noteworthy senators from American history lack formal commemoration. But it also seems like an elegant solution to the somewhat embarrassing reality that even though former Sen. Richard Russell (D-GA) was an iconic figure in his day, he was also an arch-segregationist and the key legislative leader of the white supremacist movement in America during its final two decades of formal high-level political authority.

Simply swapping out Russell for a more conventional liberal Democrat (Ted Kennedy, say) would be a hard sell in a polarized environment. But why not swap out a Democrat whom contemporary Democrats don’t like for a Republican who is broadly respected on both sides of the aisle? The fact that honoring McCain serves as a sub rosa way of slamming President Donald Trump — and the fact that Trump is clearly annoyed by the impulse to honor McCain — only makes it all the better.




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Sunday, September 9, 2018 11:43 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
I'm still looking for all these "lefties" who love McCain. Not seeing them.

It would help if you'd open your eyes.


Just look at all the "folks" defending the McCain "legacy", and take a gander at Ocasio- Cortez' tribute to John McCain, warmonger.
https://ijr.com/2018/08/1119016-ocasio-cortez-john-mccain/


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Sunday, September 9, 2018 12:05 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:


I'm still looking for all these "lefties" who love McCain. Not seeing them.

It would help if you'd open your eyes.


Just look at all the "folks" defending the McCain "legacy", and take a gander at Ocasio- Cortez' tribute to John McCain, warmonger.
https://ijr.com/2018/08/1119016-ocasio-cortez-john-mccain/

Except for the fact that Troll RF's ignorance is coherent, it seems Troll SGG and Troll RF could be sockpuppets of each other. They share the same proclaimed ignorance. Although Troll SGG might be too embarrassed to admit his ignorance, Troll RF seems to revel in his own ignorance.

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Sunday, September 9, 2018 12:15 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
"Jane you ignorant slut" Dan Aykroyd, SNL, circa 1970s

Richard M. Walden is a Los Angeles-based civil rights lawyer who served on active duty in the US Army in 1968-1969.

Hey Six, the writer of said article is a "lefty" - kind of shoots holes in
your little, puny rant. Besides McCain was a devout conservative. We do have
a consolation prize though.....tickets to Trump's 2021 Inauguration, Bwahhahaha!!!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
On the Leftists newest "Hero", John McCain...

As described in 2008 by the Huffington Post.

Quote:

McCain’s “heroism” stems uniquely from the fact that he was an obstreperous prisoner of war unwilling to cooperate with his captors. Undeniably thugs, McCain’s jailers resembled the jailers at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo in their sadism and lack of respect for international conventions guaranteeing rights to enemy combatants. That he refused an early release and was not “broken” by his captors does not make him George Washington, Sergeant York or even Audie Murphy.

McCain’s earlier and post-War years were ones of privilege, stature and mischief. He was by his own and all other accounts a cocky, drunken, gambling, whore mongering flyboy whose positions before and after the Vietnam War were arranged for by his family connections. His years as Naval Liaison to the US Senate allowed him to charm and ingratiate himself in the corridors of power which led to a vacant House seat being arranged for him in Arizona, where he had never visited let alone lived.

His family’s DNA is war. The McCain family history of grandfather, father, McCain himself and now his son being at war is essential to understanding his psyche.

He is Sparta and the rest of us are Athens.

A President McCain could well lead to the end of The American Century.



https://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-walden/et-tu-mccain_b_97988.htm
l









Plenty more where this came from. The Leftist's hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I'm just getting started.


McCain exposed as the penultimate Carpetbagger.
Are only Ultra-Libtards allowed to be Carpetbaggers?

Other Despicables who served active duty military:
Secretary Swiftboat Ketchup John Kerry.
McRINO John McCain.

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Sunday, September 9, 2018 4:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Jack THANK YOU for posting such an illustrative set of posts.

I've become beyond tired from explaining to the people here that the democratic party is now the war and Deep State party (and maybe even an arm of Likud) - in complete contradiction to its earlier principles as a peace party working toward the good of the people. And watching democrats praise McCain was like watching some perverted ritual.

I thought that your set of posts made an unmistakably obvious point.

But I had no idea the people here were so far gone they couldn't grasp such a clear set of facts. Now I know the depths of idiocy those people have been reduced to. It's become unambiguous that rabid, unthinking, virulent partisanship is what people are being propagandized in to, so they can be used against Trump to undo a democratic election.




THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Sunday, September 9, 2018 5:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Jack THANK YOU for posting such an illustrative set of posts.

I've become beyond tired from explaining to the people here that the democratic party is now the war and Deep State party (and maybe even an arm of Likud) - in complete contradiction to its earlier principles as a peace party working toward the good of the people. And watching democrats praise McCain was like watching some perverted ritual.

I thought that your set of posts made an unmistakably obvious point.

But I had no idea the people here were so far gone they couldn't grasp such a clear set of facts. Now I know the depths of idiocy those people have been reduced to. It's become unambiguous that rabid, unthinking, virulent partisanship is what people are being propagandized in to, so they can be used against Trump to undo a democratic election.




THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."


I think the whole damn country has been propagandized these days to one side or another.

The point that I've been trying to make in here, is that I'm far from a Republican. I resent being constantly called one here even more than I do being called a Nazi by the likes of RF because Nazi's aren't real in 2018, but Republicans are.

What I resent even more though is that the Democrat party has changed so much since I was in my early to mid 20's that I can't bring myself to stand with them on any single issue anymore, when I used to heavily lean that way.

Until they learn to recognize their own daily hypocrisy, they are a party of people who ultimately stand for nothing which makes them extremely vulnerable to propaganda and easy to herd around like cattle. They have become a party without any core values, and they fill that void with a bunch of empty feel good slogans and virtue signalling.

I feel that this thread showing the vastly different perspectives on John McCain from the likes of Huffington Post and Vox in 2008 as opposed to 2018 is an excellent example of this.



Republicans hold no moral superiority over Democrats, that's for sure, but at least you know where they're coming from, day to day, for better or for worse.


The Democrats will just follow wherever their idology takes them from day to day and label anybody who doesn't agree with them a Nazi, and then justify sucker punching them because "Nazi!". Or "Russia!". Or whoever the Big Bad of the week is. It's like living a real life episode of a shitty 90's WB show. And yes, I mean Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

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Monday, September 10, 2018 2:28 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Poor Buffy, now she's being dragged kicking and screaming into the 2000s.
Sure, I'll bite, the Dems have drastically changed. Up is down, sky is earth,
dogs and cats sleeping together.

Revelations has prophesized the return of Jesus to defeat evil.

Quote:

In the final battle there will be several symbols to signify the spiritual and earthly battles. The church can choose to resist Babylon and follow the Lamb or follow the Beast and suffer defeat.


Quote:

Revelation 12.22

A great sign appeared in heaven a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; and she was with child, and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.



(Source: The Bible Project)


"Buffy, is that you?"


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Jack THANK YOU for posting such an illustrative set of posts.

I've become beyond tired from explaining to the people here that the democratic party is now the war and Deep State party (and maybe even an arm of Likud) - in complete contradiction to its earlier principles as a peace party working toward the good of the people. And watching democrats praise McCain was like watching some perverted ritual.

I thought that your set of posts made an unmistakably obvious point.

But I had no idea the people here were so far gone they couldn't grasp such a clear set of facts. Now I know the depths of idiocy those people have been reduced to. It's become unambiguous that rabid, unthinking, virulent partisanship is what people are being propagandized in to, so they can be used against Trump to undo a democratic election.




THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."


I think the whole damn country has been propagandized these days to one side or another.

The point that I've been trying to make in here, is that I'm far from a Republican. I resent being constantly called one here even more than I do being called a Nazi by the likes of RF because Nazi's aren't real in 2018, but Republicans are.

What I resent even more though is that the Democrat party has changed so much since I was in my early to mid 20's that I can't bring myself to stand with them on any single issue anymore, when I used to heavily lean that way.

Until they learn to recognize their own daily hypocrisy, they are a party of people who ultimately stand for nothing which makes them extremely vulnerable to propaganda and easy to herd around like cattle. They have become a party without any core values, and they fill that void with a bunch of empty feel good slogans and virtue signalling.

I feel that this thread showing the vastly different perspectives on John McCain from the likes of Huffington Post and Vox in 2008 as opposed to 2018 is an excellent example of this.



Republicans hold no moral superiority over Democrats, that's for sure, but at least you know where they're coming from, day to day, for better or for worse.


The Democrats will just follow wherever their idology takes them from day to day and label anybody who doesn't agree with them a Nazi, and then justify sucker punching them because "Nazi!". Or "Russia!". Or whoever the Big Bad of the week is. It's like living a real life episode of a shitty 90's WB show. And yes, I mean Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Monday, September 10, 2018 2:52 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaaaa, ugh, ha, ha, ha.....you're funny!


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'll sum up the fact that the point of this thread completely went over SGG's head with this single quote he put here:

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

Again, quoting a "lefty" writer. What gives?



Of course. Not only were they all "Lefty writers", but they all came from uber-left-wing site Huffington Post.


As for your last question, in a postscript...

Quote:

P.S. You're really reaching way back aren't you.


That was my other point.

I've said on several occasions in here that in order for Leftists to be as hypocritical as they are, they need to have a terrible memory or intentionally forget what they said just yesterday, let alone a decade ago. So I can imagine how much it bothers you that I'm showing you stuff from 10 years ago that was said about McCain when he was running for office against Obama by the very same Leftists that are calling him a Hero today.

Oops. Sorry to bring up Obama here. I know how off limits that is with you. But do realize that he has no blame here other than the fact that he was running for president on the Democratic ticket at the time.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Monday, September 10, 2018 3:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Please. Do elaborate on what is amusing about this, because I'm not laughing.

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Thursday, September 13, 2018 6:56 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


The irony of your claim that your little contribution went over my head,
no Six, dead wrong...this is so far beneath me.


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Please. Do elaborate on what is amusing about this, because I'm not laughing.

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Thursday, September 13, 2018 8:14 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The irony of your claim that your little contribution went over my head,
no Six, dead wrong...this is so far beneath me.


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Please. Do elaborate on what is amusing about this, because I'm not laughing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)




Well... first off, no matter how you look at this situation there is no irony, so I have no idea what you really mean about that.

Second, you chided me once for quoting a lefty like I wasn't aware of that fact, and then gave me detailed information proving it was a lefty writer. The very next post you say "what gives" when you realize another one was a lefty.

And finally, the main point about this thread was showing just how hypocritical the Left is and giving undeniable evidence of it, and you have yet to even give your opinion about that.


So far, all I've received from you is criticism that was off base because you didn't understand the point of the thread, and then a statement saying that this is beneath you to even talk about it.


I consider the horse led to water. Not my responsibility to see to it that you drink my friend.


Do enjoy those blinders you're wearing. It's a pity if you really don't take some time to understand where I'm coming from. You're one of the only regular lefties on this board that I wouldn't outright call a Leftist. I think it's a shame that you could allow the current political climate to shut your mind so tightly that you aren't even open to looking at things that don't fit into the Leftist's current narrative. Especially when I've just provided so many examples of where the Left were at 10 years ago when I agreed with them on nearly everything.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, September 14, 2018 2:21 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Okay Six, I guess I need to elaborate, as you have requested, otherwise you will think that you "pulled the wool over my eyes" (as the expression goes).

You claim that "lefties" are hypocrites because 10 years ago a couple of journalists wrote damning articles as to McCain's military and personal life,
a criticism that he himself has admitted to. And, as part of this claim, it
is your belief that "lefties" have easily abandoned their beliefs and criticisms of McCain and others like him, thereby exposing their flimsy character flaw, namely being a hypocrite.

Quote:

first off, no matter how you look at this situation there is no irony


First of all, let's forget about the irony. Second, there is a method to my
madness, I chide (as you stated) and said "what gives" because I wanted to know from you directly what you actually wanted to say. I assumed, from your
first four posts (with no commentary on your part as to your reasoning),
that your angle would be criticism of today's "lefties" as hypocrites due
to the aforementioned articles. I did "chide" to spark a conversation as to
your take on the subject. And here we are.

I don't mean to be too harsh, but well, forget that. I find it a bit of a
stretch that you "showed" anything other than your ability to copy and
paste. You offered nothing in the way of underscoring your point that "lefties" are hypocrites. Not one word, until now. So I offer up my opinion.
I totally got your point based upon your posting the articles and knowing q
little about your attitude towards left-leaning thinkers. So I poked a little
to see what gives with your opinion.

Yes, those articles spoke to a mentality of righteous indignation toward
an individual who displayed anti-social behavior. Was it due to his
privileged upbringing? Or was it his rebellious spirit protesting the very
nature of that upbringing? Who cares? He did what he did. Fuck John McCain,
the man who did all those hateful, awful things to other human beings.
Yes, he was a horrible human being and a stain on the otherwise spotless
record of his family (or so they would have you think). Rich people have a
big nerve, and a tendency, to hide anything negative to show how wonderful
they are. Bullshit!

By the way, you never present in any of your posts just who these lefties
are that so praise McCain. Not even those lefty journalists that you quote
here. Posting a bunch of articles and then not backing your claims with
clear arguments and your general points of view, well, it's just lacking my
friend.

What took place at the Hanoi Hilton may have been poetic justice, or Karma,
or McCain looking to show his father that he had the right stuff. Yes, he
was a racist scumbag. But something happened to him during his 5 year
"vacation" at the Hilton. And then again, maybe not.
Again, who gives a shit. This man put his life on the line, because, well
does that matter really? You name it, that's a reason. But he showed balls.
More than I could say about others, but show them he did...and what do we do?
We condemn him, spit on him and call him "not a hero" because he was captured.

Okay, all those things. But that was then, this is now. Sure he played fast
and loose with politics, with Obama. I was not fond of him or his tactics.
Nor did I agree with his politics, not all the time. But I loved it when he
stuck it to Trump during the ACA/Obamacare vote. Fuck yeah! Trump had to eat
shit, big time. McCain was a complicated man. Flawed in every way. Opportunistic, egotistical and oftentimes arrogant. But he did not take shit
from nobody. I admire that. And during the campaign he straightened out that
lady at a rally about Obama being a muslim. He could have easily agreed with
her and went about his business. That, what he did, takes guts. It takes
character. It made me rethink how I thought of John McCain. You and your
comrades might not think so, but he laid his life on the line for you, me,
Kiki, Siggy, etc.

We can go on RWED and talk shit, all because he, and people like him, lay it
on the line. Setting aside politics for a moment, which I protest against
on occasion, we live our lives. So giving a man respect for his sacrifice
is the least I could do. You and the others don't agree, that's alright it's
a FREE country.

I have a point to make here:

Trump once was a Democrat. In an interview with Wolf Blitzer, circa 2004,
he said:

Quote:

"In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat. It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty
bad disasters under the Republicans."



In another interview with CNN's Blitzer in 2007, he praised Hillary Clinton's
ability to negotiate when asked if she could successfully work out a deal with Iran.

Quote:

"Hillary's always surrounded herself with very good people. I think Hillary would do a good job."


Do the above statements, Trump praising Hillary, make him a lying scumbag
lefty hypocrite? According to you and Kiki, yes. Was Trump a different man back in 2004 and 2007? Or did he just follow the tried and true methods of
modern-day politics. If he lied then, do you think he lies now?

(Source: CNN Politics - updated July 22, 2015) by Chris Moody, CNN Senior
Digital Correspondent


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The irony of your claim that your little contribution went over my head,
no Six, dead wrong...this is so far beneath me.


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Please. Do elaborate on what is amusing about this, because I'm not laughing.

Do Right, Be Right. :)




Well... first off, no matter how you look at this situation there is no irony, so I have no idea what you really mean about that.

Second, you chided me once for quoting a lefty like I wasn't aware of that fact, and then gave me detailed information proving it was a lefty writer. The very next post you say "what gives" when you realize another one was a lefty.

And finally, the main point about this thread was showing just how hypocritical the Left is and giving undeniable evidence of it, and you have yet to even give your opinion about that.


So far, all I've received from you is criticism that was off base because you didn't understand the point of the thread, and then a statement saying that this is beneath you to even talk about it.


I consider the horse led to water. Not my responsibility to see to it that you drink my friend.


Do enjoy those blinders you're wearing. It's a pity if you really don't take some time to understand where I'm coming from. You're one of the only regular lefties on this board that I wouldn't outright call a Leftist. I think it's a shame that you could allow the current political climate to shut your mind so tightly that you aren't even open to looking at things that don't fit into the Leftist's current narrative. Especially when I've just provided so many examples of where the Left were at 10 years ago when I agreed with them on nearly everything.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


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Friday, September 14, 2018 4:01 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


I'm attaching an excerpt of the 2004 interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer:



And another:




SGG

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Friday, September 14, 2018 7:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Okay Six, I guess I need to elaborate, as you have requested, otherwise you will think that you "pulled the wool over my eyes" (as the expression goes).

You claim that "lefties" are hypocrites because 10 years ago a couple of journalists wrote damning articles as to McCain's military and personal life,
a criticism that he himself has admitted to. And, as part of this claim, it
is your belief that "lefties" have easily abandoned their beliefs and criticisms of McCain and others like him, thereby exposing their flimsy character flaw, namely being a hypocrite.

First of all, let's forget about the irony. Second, there is a method to my
madness, I chide (as you stated) and said "what gives" because I wanted to know from you directly what you actually wanted to say. I assumed, from your
first four posts (with no commentary on your part as to your reasoning),
that your angle would be criticism of today's "lefties" as hypocrites due
to the aforementioned articles. I did "chide" to spark a conversation as to
your take on the subject. And here we are.

I don't mean to be too harsh, but well, forget that. I find it a bit of a
stretch that you "showed" anything other than your ability to copy and
paste. You offered nothing in the way of underscoring your point that "lefties" are hypocrites. Not one word, until now. So I offer up my opinion.
I totally got your point based upon your posting the articles and knowing q
little about your attitude towards left-leaning thinkers. So I poked a little
to see what gives with your opinion.



I would have thought from my many other recent posts that I was being very clear about showing Leftist hypocrisy by posting those links from trash "news" sites like Huffington Post and Vox 10 years ago as opposed to now.

Then again, YOU aren't one of the people I had in mind when I posted it. We've gone through this all before, several times, but I'll take a moment to try to make myself clear again...

I DON'T lump you in with Second and T and G and Reaverfan. I didn't before, and I still don't. That being said, I would appreciate it if you stop associating me with others and calling people my comrades.

Quote:

Yes, those articles spoke to a mentality of righteous indignation toward
an individual who displayed anti-social behavior. Was it due to his
privileged upbringing? Or was it his rebellious spirit protesting the very
nature of that upbringing? Who cares? He did what he did. Fuck John McCain,
the man who did all those hateful, awful things to other human beings.
Yes, he was a horrible human being and a stain on the otherwise spotless
record of his family (or so they would have you think). Rich people have a
big nerve, and a tendency, to hide anything negative to show how wonderful
they are. Bullshit!



Right. Fuck John McCain. Nothing has changed. He was a garbage human being.

Quote:

By the way, you never present in any of your posts just who these lefties
are that so praise McCain. Not even those lefty journalists that you quote
here. Posting a bunch of articles and then not backing your claims with
clear arguments and your general points of view, well, it's just lacking my
friend.



I'm referring again to the people who work at trash news sites like Huffington Post, Vox and Mother Jones. The "Alex Joneses" of the Left. Again, I make a clear distinction between you and them. I don't do that with others that post here because they mindlessly and rabidly quote anything these types of outfits claim on a daily basis and are completely closed minded to any conversations on the topics. Usually you don't automatically jump to insults, but I have to say it has become more frequent recently and I don't appreciate it much.

Quote:

What took place at the Hanoi Hilton may have been poetic justice, or Karma,
or McCain looking to show his father that he had the right stuff. Yes, he
was a racist scumbag. But something happened to him during his 5 year
"vacation" at the Hilton. And then again, maybe not.
Again, who gives a shit. This man put his life on the line, because, well
does that matter really? You name it, that's a reason. But he showed balls.
More than I could say about others, but show them he did...and what do we do?
We condemn him, spit on him and call him "not a hero" because he was captured.



Just being captured doesn't make you a hero. Maybe he did other things during his service that exhibited some hero like characteristics. Maybe while he was in he didn't talk while he was tortured. None of us are going to know the truth. Overpaid and overprivlidged assholes from both sides have equal and opposite things to say about it.

I really don't give a shit about whether he was a "hero" or not during the war. All of that happened long before I was born. Since I've been old enough to be aware of all things political, he has been a neo-con warhawk piece of shit. That nullifies any hero like qualities he may have once had in his youth.

Quote:

Okay, all those things. But that was then, this is now. Sure he played fast
and loose with politics, with Obama. I was not fond of him or his tactics.
Nor did I agree with his politics, not all the time. But I loved it when he
stuck it to Trump during the ACA/Obamacare vote. Fuck yeah! Trump had to eat
shit, big time. McCain was a complicated man. Flawed in every way. Opportunistic, egotistical and oftentimes arrogant. But he did not take shit
from nobody. I admire that. And during the campaign he straightened out that
lady at a rally about Obama being a muslim. He could have easily agreed with
her and went about his business. That, what he did, takes guts. It takes
character. It made me rethink how I thought of John McCain. You and your
comrades might not think so, but he laid his life on the line for you, me,
Kiki, Siggy, etc.



Maybe he did. I dunno. Like I said, that was a LONG time ago, and a story about how he one time stood up to a racist old lady and the PR points he won by jumping on the bandwagon and bashing Trump don't make up for all of the horrible decisions he has made in his political career.

Quote:

We can go on RWED and talk shit, all because he, and people like him, lay it
on the line. Setting aside politics for a moment, which I protest against
on occasion, we live our lives. So giving a man respect for his sacrifice
is the least I could do. You and the others don't agree, that's alright it's
a FREE country.



I'm going to separate the solder from the monster he became once he entered the political arena. Thanks for your service, Johnny boy. It is a shame what you became in your old age.

I have a point to make here:
Quote:


Trump once was a Democrat. In an interview with Wolf Blitzer, circa 2004,
he said:

Quote:

"In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat. It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty
bad disasters under the Republicans."



In another interview with CNN's Blitzer in 2007, he praised Hillary Clinton's
ability to negotiate when asked if she could successfully work out a deal with Iran.

Quote:

"Hillary's always surrounded herself with very good people. I think Hillary would do a good job."


Do the above statements, Trump praising Hillary, make him a lying scumbag
lefty hypocrite? According to you and Kiki, yes. Was Trump a different man back in 2004 and 2007? Or did he just follow the tried and true methods of
modern-day politics. If he lied then, do you think he lies now?



Yes! Of course he's a liar. He's a politician! I'm constantly talking about how his entire opinion about the economy, the stock market and the job outlook is a complete 180 and he's full of shit now.

THERE ARE SO MANY FUCKING REASONS TO CALL HIM A LIAR.

I just don't understand why we need to take stuff out of context and make up stories about him on a daily basis when there are very legitimate and very provable things we can agree upon and call him on his bullshit.

I'm going to ask that you do a little real thinking on all of this man. You're one of the reasonable ones. One of many, likely.

Please don't jump ship and join up with the crazies. The world needs a little more balance and rational thought.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, September 14, 2018 8:19 AM

REAVERFAN


A little perspective = no perspective, apparently. The left doesn't like McCain, never did. Saying a few nice things about a dead guy doesn't mean you adore him.

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Friday, September 14, 2018 9:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
A little perspective = no perspective, apparently. The left doesn't like McCain, never did. Saying a few nice things about a dead guy doesn't mean you adore him.



lol... Do me a favor and give me some info on how many prior high ranking politicians have died in the last 30 years and received more than a mere mention after their passing in the media. Democrat or Republican. It makes no matter.

You'd think that it was JFK passing all over again with the media coverage of McCain's death. The reasons for that are glaringly obvious.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, September 16, 2018 5:26 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Fuck!!!

Reaverfan you said in a couple of sentences what took me paragraphs to say.
You cut to the quick and I, for one, appreciate it.

Indeed, a little perspective.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
A little perspective = no perspective, apparently. The left doesn't like McCain, never did. Saying a few nice things about a dead guy doesn't mean you adore him.


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Sunday, September 16, 2018 5:33 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


There's so much to unpack here. I will respond in due time, I have to.


SGG

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Sunday, September 16, 2018 7:55 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
There's so much to unpack here. I will respond in due time, I have to.


SGG



I look forward to it. A well thought out reply is always worth reading.

I don't even hold it against you that you quoted and agreed with RF here, since it was one of his few comments made in the RWED that weren't insulting. I'm alright with having different opinions. That's what human beings do.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:44 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
A little perspective = no perspective, apparently. The left doesn't like McCain, never did. Saying a few nice things about a dead guy doesn't mean you adore him.



lol... Do me a favor and give me some info on how many prior high ranking politicians have died in the last 30 years and received more than a mere mention after their passing in the media. Democrat or Republican. It makes no matter.

You'd think that it was JFK passing all over again with the media coverage of McCain's death. The reasons for that are glaringly obvious.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


I, too, was a bit puzzled at the length of the send-off. It was like Reagan. They took forever to bury the guy.

I suppose it's just media rewarding a warmonger for making them so rich, and giving them wars to cheerlead.

"Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran." -JM

Bolton certainly wants to.






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Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
A little perspective = no perspective, apparently. The left doesn't like McCain, never did. Saying a few nice things about a dead guy doesn't mean you adore him.



lol... Do me a favor and give me some info on how many prior high ranking politicians have died in the last 30 years and received more than a mere mention after their passing in the media. Democrat or Republican. It makes no matter.

You'd think that it was JFK passing all over again with the media coverage of McCain's death. The reasons for that are glaringly obvious.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


I, too, was a bit puzzled at the length of the send-off. It was like Reagan. They took forever to bury the guy.

I suppose it's just media rewarding a warmonger for making them so rich, and giving them wars to cheerlead.



Wow... Keep this up RF and you just might force me to change my opinion about you.

I can't say that I can argue with any of that at all. Thanks for at least acknowledging that it was in fact taking place here, and offering a seemingly very valid counterpoint without just saying "no it isn't" or calling me a Nazi. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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