REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Kavanaugh

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Friday, June 10, 2022 08:02
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 27618
PAGE 1 of 14

Wednesday, September 19, 2018 11:05 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I find the tactics that the Dems are using to delay and obstruct the process quite inventive, considering that they don't have the vote. Aside from the constant shouting from the gallery, the Dems have managed to ...

Demand endless reams of paperwork from Kavanaugh's history in the Bush WH,
Delay allegations of sexual misconduct until VERY late in the process,
Then demand a public hearing,
And then change their stance and demand a "full FBI investigation" as soon as a public hearing was acceded to.

Now, I have no idea whether the allegations are true or false. (But if we were to follow THUGR's stance of letting Clinton's bygones be bygones, I suppose we could let this 30-year old allegation also be lost in the mists of history. Right?)

But I'd be willing to bet SOME dollars that if you were to look into this professor's activities, you'd find her working with Democratic Senators in the past six months or so, working out the timing and tactics for maximum effect.

BRAVO!



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, September 19, 2018 12:22 PM

THG


Sig your post concerning this topic is incredibly juvenile, hateful and childness in nature. Bravo troll...

T


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, September 19, 2018 12:32 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Sig your post concerning this topic is incredibly juvenile, hateful and childness[sic] in nature. Bravo troll...- THUGR


So, what about posting something relevant and intelligent about Kavanaugh? What do you think about his qualifications? Do you have any opinions about his political leanings? What about his apparent deference to the unreachability of the President? Does he believe in the Unitary Executive?

Or is it BEYOND YOU to bring anything to the table besides name-calling?




-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, September 19, 2018 12:33 PM

REAVERFAN


You truly are stupid AF, you anti-American Russian troll.

The woman has a stellar reputation. Kavanaugh is s known liar. He's a piece of shit who deserves to die crying in prison, along with Trump and his boss, Putin.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, September 19, 2018 12:35 PM

REAVERFAN


Also, you don't know shit about history or politics.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, September 19, 2018 12:48 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Sig your post concerning this topic is incredibly juvenile, hateful and childness[sic] in nature. Bravo troll...- THUGR


So, what about posting something relevant and intelligent about Kavanaugh? What do you think about his qualifications? Do you have any opinions about his political leanings? What about his apparent deference to the unreachability of the President? Does he believe in the Unitary Executive?

Or is it BEYOND YOU to bring anything to the table besides name-calling?



Pretty simple for me: If these Republicans and this president picked him then he's got stink all over him. I do believe he's been lying, and will continue to lie. I believe this is Trump yet again protecting Trump's big fat *ss. I also believe he's just another member of the Republican white male Boys Club. I keep waiting for your outrage over this kind of backward sexist bias - guess I'll have to keep waiting.

I want to tie 2 things into one:

1. Pretty obvious the Supreme Court has become too political, especially since Mitch McConnell.

2. Did anyone else notice that Grassley and Hatch and Biden were part of the Clarence Thomas hearings??? 27 freaking years ago! That's ridiculous!

Together those both point to one thing for me: TERM LIMITS. Can't happen soon enough. Congress is suppose to be about service, not a lifetime career, and SC needs to be more flexible with the times for it to be lifetime.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, September 19, 2018 12:56 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
You truly are stupid AF, you anti-American Russian troll.

Saving this for a rainy day too.

Quote:

The woman has a stellar reputation. Kavanaugh is s known liar.
He is? If that were so, why would the Dems have to stoop to delay tactics? Isn't there anything substantial in Kavanaugh's record to point to? Even Corey Booker's (a known POS) "I am Spartacus" moment flopped. So ... LINKS PLEASE

Quote:

He's a piece of shit who deserves to die crying in prison, along with Trump and his boss, Putin.
Well, THAT went off the deep end pretty fast!

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, September 19, 2018 1:15 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

I keep waiting for your outrage over this kind of backward sexist bias - guess I'll have to keep waiting.- GSTRING
I was pretty outraged over the way Anita Hill was treated, but the DEMS trampled all over her and approved Thomas' appointment because ... yanno ... black. Identity politics at its finest. They got paid back for it because Thomas turned out to be somewhere to the right of Genghis Kahn. Well done, Biden!

I think Professor Ford deserves a hearing, under oath. If the Dems hadn't been so anxious to play politics with her allegation, then the matter could have been heard and debated over a longer period of time.

Quote:

secret letter to Senate Democrats accusing U.S. Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct.
When was this sent and received? Why was it not brought up as soon as possible?

Quote:

Ford said she escaped when one of Kavanaugh's friends at Georgetown Preparatory School jumped on top of them.
Was this the same friend who watched? Or a different friend?

Quote:

Ford said she told no one of the incident in any detail until 2012, when she was in couples therapy with her husband. The therapist’s notes, portions of which were provided by Ford and reviewed by The Washington Post, do not mention Kavanaugh’s name but say she reported that she was attacked by students “from an elitist boys’ school” who went on to become “highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington.” The notes say four boys were involved, a discrepancy Ford says was an error on the therapist’s part. Ford said there were four boys at the party but only two in the room.
Ford couldn't remember the house, but if she could ID the other two boys maybe they can provide more details.

Quote:

On the advice of Katz, who said she believed Ford would be attacked as a liar if she came forward, Ford took a polygraph test administered by a former FBI agent in early August. The results, which Katz provided to The Post, concluded that Ford was being truthful when she said a statement summarizing her allegations was accurate.
Ford believes she's telling the truth. Did she know the boys well? Or at least, well enough to be able to properly ID who was doing what? Was she drunk at the time?

Right now it's a "he said- she said" story since "the friend" says he doesn't remember anything like that but supposedly drank a lot and was subject to blackouts. Did Kavanaugh have a history of drinking a lot at that time? Her story is vague about the location and time; it would help if there were some kind of corroborating testimony. I believe that she believes she's telling the truth, but she may be mistaken.

*****

Not sure what to think about term limits for the Supreme Court or for ANY position. I think the record is mixed on whether or not it reduces corruption and the role of money in politics; and we have no evidence at all on whether it would reduce the role of politics in the judiciary. The only reason why it sounds like a good idea to you now is because you don't like the current makeup of the SC. If the SC had a more liberal bent, I'm sure you'd want to see those judges in place until they had at least one foot in the grave, and maybe more!


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, September 19, 2018 3:36 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Not sure what to think about term limits for the Supreme Court or for ANY position. I think the record is mixed on whether or not it reduces corruption and the role of money in politics; and we have no evidence at all on whether it would reduce the role of politics in the judiciary. The only reason why it sounds like a good idea to you now is because you don't like the current makeup of the SC. If the SC had a more liberal bent, I'm sure you'd want to see those judges in place until they had at least one foot in the grave, and maybe more!



You have learned absolutely nothing about me of course. How many times have I said I hate Hillary (and proven it)? How many times do I have to say I'm not a Dem or Rep? Or, have to say I vote for the person not the party? I even mentioned Biden above as a fossil the needs to get off the stage. Pelosi/Schumer - get out!
NO. Try and remember that I'm not the one with the phony agenda, k? I'm just like whoever is best is best. No allegiance that makes me have to lie or compromise my values. So, the only reason "why it sounds like a good idea to me now is because" it sounds like a good idea. These old f*cks that say naive stuff like, "I know him, he's a fine man" need to step down. When people think they're untouchable they act like it.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, September 19, 2018 3:56 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

You have learned absolutely nothing about me of course. How many times have I said I hate Hillary (and proven it)? How many times do I have to say I'm not a Dem or Rep? Or, have to say I vote for the person not the party? I even mentioned Biden above as a fossil the needs to get off the stage. Pelosi/Schumer - get out!
NO. Try and remember that I'm not the one with the phony agenda, k? I'm just like whoever is best is best. No allegiance that makes me have to lie or compromise my values. So, the only reason "why it sounds like a good idea to me now is because" it sounds like a good idea. These old f*cks that say naive stuff like, "I know him, he's a fine man" need to step down. When people think they're untouchable they act like it.


Ok, you're not a dem or repub.

So let's just discuss the idea of "term limits" (in general) on its merits.

There are different things at play for term-limiting elected officials versus appointed officials.

In a perverse way, I think term limits ENHANCE the role money in elections by forcing people to run as challengers rather than as incumbents, which means they will need (on the average) MORE money for their campaign rather than less. Also, term limits mean that politicians are usually inexperienced ... they don't know how to hold meetings, how to run committees, how to write legislation, and quite often wind up relying on lobbyists to help them. We had that problem in our State Legislature when term limits were first implemented; we had a whole bunch of "freshmen" legislators who needed to be told what to do every step of the way. It was political kindergarten.

For appointed officials, there are three factors at work:
1) The "cycle" of elections may leave a lasting political bias in the judiciary.
2) People DO get old and senile!
3) People who've been around a long time can form an "old boy's" (or "old gal's") network in which old ideas are never challenged.



-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, September 19, 2018 5:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

The woman has a stellar reputation. Kavanaugh is s known liar.




A thousand bucks says that Reaverfan didn't even know who Kavanaugh was until Rachel Maddow told him that he's a known liar.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:52 PM

REAVERFAN


You owe me 1000 bucks.

Don't worry. I know your broke ass doesn't have 1000 bucks, and I don't need it.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 1:15 AM

REAVERFAN



NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 1:20 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
You truly are stupid AF, you anti-American Russian troll.

Saving this for a rainy day too.

Quote:

The woman has a stellar reputation. Kavanaugh is s known liar.
He is? If that were so, why would the Dems have to stoop to delay tactics? Isn't there anything substantial in Kavanaugh's record to point to? Even Corey Booker's (a known POS) "I am Spartacus" moment flopped. So ... LINKS PLEASE

Quote:

He's a piece of shit who deserves to die crying in prison, along with Trump and his boss, Putin.
Well, THAT went off the deep end pretty fast!

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

I own you. All day, every day, Russian troll.


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:12 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Same thing as Trump. If he's so innocent, then why not call for the FBI to investigate this latest allegation and clear his name. Seems very simple and
straightforward to me.

The delay in revealing the accuser was due to the woman wanting to keep her
identity private. Feinstein tried to keep her promise in not revealing her
identity, but something happened to open that Pandora's Box. She knew, as did
the Democrats, that this latest fiasco with Kavanaugh was a set up from the beginning. Plus anyone that Trump picks is automatically a scumbag from the
rich Republican House of Pain.

She knew that the Russian Troll Dept. would be working overtime to smear her name, threaten both her and her family, hack her email, etc. And now those fucking cowards - Hatch, McConnell and Grassley - don't have the balls to follow regular order and call for an investigation into the allegations
against that dickhead Kavanaugh.

The FBI did investigate Clarence Thomas when Anita Hill brought charges of sexual and physical assault against him. It took solely 3 days. The Rotten Three, as I call them, have challenged Dr. Ford to appear before the
Committee, either in private or public session, but without any witnesses or
properly conducted investigation as in the Thomas case. The instant case is
a carbon copy of the Thomas/Hill case, whereby the man's conduct has been
called into question.

Just for you Siggy - the man is innocent until proven guilty. I, at least,
offer up that much. But not Hatch and Grassley. They both have commented
in the negative against Dr. Ford, the accuser). Fuck those two. Funny thing
is that these two hypocrites were all about the investigation when Hill
stated her charges against Thomas (another douchebag). This is so ridiculous.

All those in favor of drinking the Kool-aid, the line forms behind Siggy.


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I find the tactics that the Dems are using to delay and obstruct the process quite inventive, considering that they don't have the vote. Aside from the constant shouting from the gallery, the Dems have managed to ...

Demand endless reams of paperwork from Kavanaugh's history in the Bush WH,
Delay allegations of sexual misconduct until VERY late in the process,
Then demand a public hearing,
And then change their stance and demand a "full FBI investigation" as soon as a public hearing was acceded to.

Now, I have no idea whether the allegations are true or false. (But if we were to follow THUGR's stance of letting Clinton's bygones be bygones, I suppose we could let this 30-year old allegation also be lost in the mists of history. Right?)

But I'd be willing to bet SOME dollars that if you were to look into this professor's activities, you'd find her working with Democratic Senators in the past six months or so, working out the timing and tactics for maximum effect.

BRAVO!




NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 5:23 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

I keep waiting for your outrage over this kind of backward sexist bias - guess I'll have to keep waiting.- GSTRING
I was pretty outraged over the way Anita Hill was treated, but the DEMS trampled all over her and approved Thomas' appointment because ... yanno ... black. Identity politics at its finest. They got paid back for it because Thomas turned out to be somewhere to the right of Genghis Kahn. Well done, Biden!



^ I wondered about the truthfulness of this when I first read it... you're acting so certain and blaming the Dems was a dead give away. (See, by now I know your tells and I also know your deep seated bigotry. SIGHEIL!)

Of course the truth differs from what you said:

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/16/us/the-thomas-confirmation-how-the-
senators-voted-on-thomas.html

Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans.

Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
Looking forward to shooting down your next lie.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 8:01 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
You owe me 1000 bucks.

Don't worry. I know your broke ass doesn't have 1000 bucks, and I don't need it.



lol. Don't worry about it dude. I'll try not to laugh too hard when he gets sworn in. Promise.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 9:08 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
You owe me 1000 bucks.

Don't worry. I know your broke ass doesn't have 1000 bucks, and I don't need it.



lol. Don't worry about it dude. I'll try not to laugh too hard when he gets sworn in. Promise.




Is anyone here surprised Jack the perv doesn't give a hoot about the possible attempted rape of this woman. I'm not, nope, I'm not surprised at all. Are you surprised REAVERFAN?

T


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans. Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
The DEMS were in control of the Senate, and (more importantly) in control of the Judiciary Committee at the time. There were (by your count) 57 Democrats in the Senate and 43 Republicans. So what happened???



-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:13 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Same thing as Trump. If he's so innocent, then why not call for the FBI to investigate this latest allegation and clear his name. Seems very simple and straightforward to me.

You mean allegation against Kavanaugh?

Quote:

The delay in revealing the accuser was due to the woman wanting to keep her identity private. Feinstein tried to keep her promise in not revealing her identity, but something happened to open that Pandora's Box. She knew, as did the Democrats, that this latest fiasco with Kavanaugh was a set up from the beginning. Plus anyone that Trump picks is automatically a scumbag from the rich Republican House of Pain.
Yanno this drive me nucking futz. I can't tell you the number of times that a woman complained to me about a male co-worker and said I don't want you to DO anything about it, I just wanted to tell you. Well, we have a policy at work and it's a good one: All complaints AUTOMATICALLY go to our legal department. You can't half-complain. You either complain with the point of following thru, or you STFU.

Quote:

She knew that the Russian Troll Dept. would be working overtime to smear her name, threaten both her and her family, hack her email, etc.
Seriously??? Are you going to blame Russia for bad weather too?

Quote:

And now those fucking cowards - Hatch, McConnell and Grassley - don't have the balls to follow regular order and call for an investigation into the allegations against that dickhead Kavanaugh.
For whatever reason, the FBI has refused to investigate.

Quote:

The FBI did investigate Clarence Thomas when Anita Hill brought charges of sexual and physical assault against him. It took solely 3 days. The Rotten Three, as I call them, have challenged Dr. Ford to appear before the Committee, either in private or public session, but without any witnesses or properly conducted investigation as in the Thomas case. The instant case is a carbon copy of the Thomas/Hill case, whereby the man's conduct has been called into question.

Just for you Siggy - the man is innocent until proven guilty. I, at least, offer up that much.

But not after calling him "automatically a scumbag from the rich Republican House of Pain" and a "dickhead"? So far, the Dems have not found anything in his decisions or writings that indicate ideological extremism. I confess that I haven't been following the hearings all that closely, but if anything had been found so far I'm sure NPR would be trumpeting it for days...

Quote:

But not Hatch and Grassley. They both have commented in the negative against Dr. Ford, the accuser). Fuck those two. Funny thing is that these two hypocrites were all about the investigation when Hill stated her charges against Thomas (another douchebag). This is so ridiculous. All those in favor of drinking the Kool-aid, the line forms behind Siggy.


The Dems want to stall the appointment as long as possible because (1) If Kavanaugh is not in place when the Supreme Court begins its news session and starts oral arguments, he can't rule on any of the cases later and (2) on the off-chance that the Dems take the Senate, his approval is toast.

If the FBI can investigate this quickly ... and I've already brought up a list of sample questions to ask and avenues to pursue ... then by all means, investigate. But apparently the FBI isn't willing to investigate and Ford isn't willing to testify under oath either privately OR in public, so the Senate Judiciary committee can't investigate either. This was badly bungled by Feinstein; she should have made it clear to Ford that there are no such things as "half complaints" and Ford should have either withdrawn her complaint or gone forward with Feinstein pushing for an investigation.

I feel sorry for Ford. She took her personal doubts and fears into a highly politicized environment and was entirely unprepared for the blowback. Somebody should have given her much better advice on the consequences, especially Feinstein, who was in the best position to steer this.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:33 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Kavanaugh Accuser's Classmate Backs Off Claims She Heard About Alleged Assault

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-20/kavanaugh-accusers-classmate
-backs-claims-she-heard-about-alleged-assault


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 12:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
You owe me 1000 bucks.

Don't worry. I know your broke ass doesn't have 1000 bucks, and I don't need it.



lol. Don't worry about it dude. I'll try not to laugh too hard when he gets sworn in. Promise.




Is anyone here surprised Jack the perv doesn't give a hoot about the possible attempted rape of this woman. I'm not, nope, I'm not surprised at all. Are you surprised REAVERFAN?

T




Seems awful convenient that in the 11th hour of the guy getting sworn in that all of the sudden some random woman comes out and makes a baseless claim that this guy attempted to rape her over 30 years ago.

I find it hilarious that they wanted the FBI to investigate this as well. How could anybody possibly investigate any of this now?


You're an easily manipulated idiot. It doesn't surprise me one bit that you're willing to believe 100% that this happened, especially since you don't like the pick and you'll cling to any idea that might keep him from being sworn in.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 12:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm going to ignore any further personal attacks about this one and just sit back and laugh at all of you when he gets sworn in.

You guys lose this one. Sorry not sorry.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 1:14 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans. Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
The DEMS were in control of the Senate, and (more importantly) in control of the Judiciary Committee at the time. There were (by your count) 57 Democrats in the Senate and 43 Republicans. So what happened???



Looks like Math happened. Reps voted 4 to 1 to put Thomas on the bench. Your comment that "it was the Dems, 'cuz Black" was as full of sh*t as you typically are. You either lied or were just wrong.

Yanno, not sure anyone has mentioned this to you, but you don't have to be full of sh*t. You can be honest - it's an option. If you try it you might find that you end up building an argument that lasts a few pages without being shot down like a Russian plane over Syria.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 1:24 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


My turn to do the guessing and fantasizing:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
In a perverse way, I think term limits ENHANCE the role money in elections by forcing people to run as challengers rather than as incumbents, which means they will need (on the average) MORE money for their campaign rather than less.



Good in some ways - Incumbents get far too many votes just by being incumbents. People recognize the name but have no clue about their record.

Campaign finance limits solves all of that, "more money" thing. Those are long overdue as well.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Also, term limits mean that politicians are usually inexperienced ... they don't know how to hold meetings, how to run committees, how to write legislation, and quite often wind up relying on lobbyists to help them.



I don't believe you, at the very least you are exaggerating for effect. And too bad if they have to learn - it's the job.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
We had that problem in our State Legislature when term limits were first implemented; we had a whole bunch of "freshmen" legislators who needed to be told what to do every step of the way. It was political kindergarten.



Better than the Old White Man's club who have learned how to game the system so we have net negative representation. Done with that.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
For appointed officials, there are three factors at work:
1) The "cycle" of elections may leave a lasting political bias in the judiciary.
2) People DO get old and senile!
3) People who've been around a long time can form an "old boy's" (or "old gal's") network in which old ideas are never challenged.




Yup! The world changes too fast for people to be permanently there until death, 30 years? Insane, backward, small minded. We can do better.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:28 PM

REAVERFAN


Sleazebag.

Yale Law dean: Reports that professor groomed female clerks for Kavanaugh 'of enormous concern'
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/yale-law-dean-reports-p
rofessor-groomed-female-clerks-kavanaugh-enormous-n911571


According to reports in The Guardian, the Huffington Post and Above the Law, Amy Chua, a professor at the law school, would advise students on their physical appearance if they wanted to seek a clerkship for Kavanaugh. Specifically, Chua would help potential applicants to have a "model-like" appearance.

So much like Miss Teen USA, walk in on naked teenage girls and brag about it, Blumpy.


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:43 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

I keep waiting for your outrage over this kind of backward sexist bias - guess I'll have to keep waiting.- GSTRING
I was pretty outraged over the way Anita Hill was treated, but the DEMS trampled all over her and approved Thomas' appointment because ... yanno ... black. Identity politics at its finest. They got paid back for it because Thomas turned out to be somewhere to the right of Genghis Kahn. Well done, Biden!


^ I wondered about the truthfulness of this when I first read it... you're acting so certain and blaming the Dems was a dead give away. (See, by now I know your tells and I also know your deep seated bigotry. SIGHEIL!)

Of course the truth differs from what you said:

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/16/us/the-thomas-confirmation-how-the-
senators-voted-on-thomas.html

Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans.

Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
Looking forward to shooting down your next lie.

Soooooo...
43 Republican Senators.
Thomas was confirmed.

Yep. Dems definitely didn't confirm him. The majority of 41 was enough to confirm, since Democrats would use Libtard Maths to calculate that as majority.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans. Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
The DEMS were in control of the Senate, and (more importantly) in control of the Judiciary Committee at the time. There were (by your count) 57 Democrats in the Senate and 43 Republicans. So what happened???


Looks like Math happened. Reps voted 4 to 1 to put Thomas on the bench. Your comment that "it was the Dems, 'cuz Black" was as full of sh*t as you typically are. You either lied or were just wrong.

Yanno, not sure anyone has mentioned this to you, but you don't have to be full of sh*t. You can be honest - it's an option. If you try it you might find that you end up building an argument that lasts a few pages without being shot down like a Russian plane over Syria.

Never gradumatated 2nd grade cyphering?
41/2 is closer to 20/1 than 4/1.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 12:36 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
You owe me 1000 bucks.

Don't worry. I know your broke ass doesn't have 1000 bucks, and I don't need it.


lol. Don't worry about it dude. I'll try not to laugh too hard when he gets sworn in. Promise.


Is anyone here surprised Jack the perv doesn't give a hoot about the possible attempted rape of this woman. I'm not, nope, I'm not surprised at all. Are you surprised REAVERFAN?

T



Seems awful convenient that in the 11th hour of the guy getting sworn in that all of the sudden some random woman comes out and makes a baseless claim that this guy attempted to rape her over 30 years ago.

I find it hilarious that they wanted the FBI to investigate this as well. How could anybody possibly investigate any of this now?


You're an easily manipulated idiot. It doesn't surprise me one bit that you're willing to believe 100% that this happened, especially since you don't like the pick and you'll cling to any idea that might keep him from being sworn in.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I recall a babe I had sex with in 1982. She raved on and on. Maybe now, if she is employed at a basement barrel school, she could change her tune and say I raped her, sevaral times, or at least once.

It is appalling that some women, many of whom clamor to be allowed to make decisions about their body, or make decisions about when they have intercourse, or who they make love with, can support women who, after decades, can be so retroactively indecisive about other teenagers.

Maybe this bimbo can claim it happened in Indiana, so he can be convicted.

Why has Lena Done'um not accused Kavanaugh yet? What's the holdup?

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 12:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It's what the Leftists have devolved to. They are losing everything. Every argument. All power.

All they can do now is claim RAPE!!!!

It's all they've got, but they're foolishly wasting that and over saturating the public with it to the point you're hearing about something new every week.

How many Republicans and other non-Democrats running do you expect to hear rape claims about as the mid-terms approach.

My guess is more than one.


I think we're seeing the death of the Democratic Party in action. They don't even realize that they are killing themselves. Everything they do undermines their own efforts, and public opinion of them is at an all time low. But they don't even realize it because they're all sitting on their moral high horses and the Media is telling them that they're right.

It's like the 2016 election all over again, every single day.

When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 1:14 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened. - SIX
Oh, I know what their answer will be ... RUSSIA!!!!

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 3:52 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Quote:

You mean allegation against Kavanaugh?


Yes. What's the fucking title of this thread?

Quote:

Yanno this drive me nucking futz. I can't tell you the number of times that a woman complained to me about a male co-worker and said I don't want you to DO anything about it, I just wanted to tell you. Well, we have a policy at work and it's a good one: All complaints AUTOMATICALLY go to our legal department. You can't half-complain. You either complain with the point of following thru, or you STFU.


Have you ever been raped or sexually assaulted?...if no, then you STFU. You don't know what this woman has been through. You seem to follow the "company" line - men say such things, the scumbags at least (you know, like your Orange fucking leader). I haven't been attacked either, but I did work with battered
women as part of my training (and did community work for a year). Plus the fact that experts in the field state that women who experience sexual assault
are traumatized to the point of near paralysis. Some fully recover, while others live in constant fear.

Quote:

Seriously??? Are you going to blame Russia for bad weather too?


Yeah, the Russian troll part may have been a bit much, but in my defense, I was on a roll....lol

Quote:

For whatever reason, the FBI has refused to investigate.


Let me let you in on a little-known secret. You know that I at the end of FB
in the title, it stands for Investigate. Another little known fact, the
president can request that the FBI conduct an investigation. Plus if both
Kavanaugh and Grassley want to "clear" his name, they can request an official
investigation by writing a letter - Kav to the committee, and the committee to
the president. Also, if the president wants to clear his name, he could call
for the investigation. Why not? He likes bossing people around. So, it's
curious that all - Kav, the prez or those dickheads from the Judiciary
Committee - have flat out refused to request the FBI to move forward and do
what they've been trained to do - namely investigate.

I'm going to break up my response at this point because, well, I want to:

Quote:

But not after calling him "automatically a scumbag from the rich Republican House of Pain" and a "dickhead"


I do that because it's fun.

Quote:

So far, the Dems have not found anything in his decisions or writings that indicate ideological extremism.


Well, that right there...it's not entirely true.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/09/03/hours-bef
ore-kavanaugh-nomination-hearings-bush-lawyer-releases-42000-pages-of-documents-to-judiciary-committee/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3aaefbc49311


Withheld documents that did not allow the Dems on the JC to properly review ahead of the Kav' hearing. Scumbag politics at it's most effective.

"Democrats argue that senators should make the same demands of Mr. Kavanaugh as they did of Justice Elena Kagan during her confirmation proceedings. Ms. Kagan served President Bill Clinton before joining the federal bench; senators received records from her White House tenure. Republicans counter that Mr. Kavanaugh’s work as staff secretary was not comparable; his job was more about keeping documents flowing in the right directions at the right times, not offering substantive contributions to the policy questions crossing his desk."

"Democrats argue that senators should make the same demands of Mr. Kavanaugh as they did of Justice Elena Kagan during her confirmation proceedings. Ms. Kagan served President Bill Clinton before joining the federal bench; senators received records from her White House tenure. Republicans counter that Mr. Kavanaugh’s work as staff secretary was not comparable; his job was more about keeping documents flowing in the right directions at the right times, not offering substantive contributions to the policy questions crossing his desk."

I have more, but you get the picture, right?

Quote:

I confess that I haven't been following the hearings all that closely, but if anything had been found so far I'm sure NPR would be trumpeting it for days...


Ah, but I have. Very closely. This is why I call him what I want and no one could change my mind on that count. This guy is a number one weasel, who slinked and slunked his way around committee members direct questions, so much so that it would make a snake self conscious. You could see it on his face.
What a total slug! (as an aside: I watched as his daughter's body language
spoke volumes as he approached and tried to put his arm around her during a
photo op. She actually cringed. Very telling).

Quote:

All those in favor of drinking the Kool-aid, the line forms behind Siggy.


I'm going to withdraw the above statement (it's redundant). We all know
where your loyalties lie, so it goes without saying.

Quote:

The Dems want to stall the appointment as long as possible because (1) If Kavanaugh is not in place when the Supreme Court begins its news session and starts oral arguments, he can't rule on any of the cases later and


Stall!!! Let's talk about stall, shall we!? The name of the game is STALL, and
who invented this little fucking game? Starts with an R and a McC. Motherfucking McConnell, that fucking turd. Another fucking weasel.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/mitch-mcconnell-antonin-scalia-s
upreme-court-nomination-219248


Talk about scumbag moves:

"Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said the Senate should not confirm a replacement for Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia until after the 2016 election — an historic rebuke of President Obama’s authority and an extraordinary challenge to the practice of considering each nominee on his or her individual merits."


Quote:

(2) on the off-chance that the Dems take the Senate, his approval is toast.


I agree with this point. When the Dems take over both houses, we shall see, but Kav the Dickhead will be toast.

Quote:

If the FBI can investigate this quickly ... and I've already brought up a list of sample questions to ask and avenues to pursue ... then by all means, investigate. But apparently the FBI isn't willing to investigate


Wrong! Have you heard this from Director Wray? No...it came from the full of shit mouth of Trump. He, the imposter prez, can order an investigation, but he doesn't want to chance it. What if they find that he is a fellow scumbag and
actually did attack Ford when he was a teen? That would be bad. He wants this
nominee to be approved yesterday, because he's afraid of what Mueller has in
his briefcase stock full of binders with details.

Quote:

and Ford isn't willing to testify under oath either privately OR in public, so the Senate Judiciary committee can't investigate either.


False and False!!! Her attorney has been negotiating with the Committee for days now, but they insist that she appear Monday (the 24th) without any other witnesses or without a proper investigation as to her charges. They want a "he said, she said" hearing...then "we will vote on Wednesday." Seems pretty cut and dried to me. Quick, clean, efficient....and totally bogus. That is not
how it's normally done. Fucking McConnell, you slug!

Quote:

This was badly bungled by Feinstein; she should have made it clear to Ford that there are no such things as "half complaints" and Ford should have either withdrawn her complaint or gone forward with Feinstein pushing for an investigation.


Now, a few days ago, I would have agreed with you (that Feinstein bungled this), but I heard that Feinstein did bring the letter to the attention of
the FBI. I'm not sure what took place after that, but she did try to report
the incident. She did push for an investigation, she still does, but Grassley
(that slime) has blocked any effort to investigate or get to the bottom of this. Delay!? The most it would take is a week (according to officials).
But Trump refuses to submit to the normal protocol, as per usual. So, he lies.
He says that the FBI doesn't do that...what exactly, investigate? And that they don't want to...I have not heard that from Director Wray or any FBI
official, nor from DOJ.

Quote:

I feel sorry for Ford.


Spare me.

Quote:

She took her personal doubts and fears into a highly politicized environment and was entirely unprepared for the blowback. Somebody should have given her much better advice on the consequences, especially Feinstein, who was in the best position to steer this.


Yeah, she wasn't fully prepared to do this, and who's to say that Feinstein
didn't warn her (I know, you're saying that), but this is why she's scrambling
to prepare herself (under trying conditions) to move forward. I give her and her team credit for girding their loins for the battle ahead. Well I, for one,
am rooting for her to kick some ass. Call these old fucking farts - like Grassley and Hatch - out and give them a big FUCK YOU...figuratively speaking.

She's a brave soul for doing so. Those "personal doubts and fears" would paralyze an ordinary human, ordinarily. Fuck politics, she's already a winner in my book. "Give 'Em Hell Annie"


SGG

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 5:33 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


You didn't drink the Kool-Aid, you're swimming in it!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's what the Leftists have devolved to. They are losing everything. Every argument. All power.

All they can do now is claim RAPE!!!!

It's all they've got, but they're foolishly wasting that and over saturating the public with it to the point you're hearing about something new every week.

How many Republicans and other non-Democrats running do you expect to hear rape claims about as the mid-terms approach.

My guess is more than one.


I think we're seeing the death of the Democratic Party in action. They don't even realize that they are killing themselves. Everything they do undermines their own efforts, and public opinion of them is at an all time low. But they don't even realize it because they're all sitting on their moral high horses and the Media is telling them that they're right.

It's like the 2016 election all over again, every single day.

When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 7:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm sure you would have told me the exact same thing on November 7th of 2016.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You didn't drink the Kool-Aid, you're swimming in it!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's what the Leftists have devolved to. They are losing everything. Every argument. All power.

All they can do now is claim RAPE!!!!

It's all they've got, but they're foolishly wasting that and over saturating the public with it to the point you're hearing about something new every week.

How many Republicans and other non-Democrats running do you expect to hear rape claims about as the mid-terms approach.

My guess is more than one.


I think we're seeing the death of the Democratic Party in action. They don't even realize that they are killing themselves. Everything they do undermines their own efforts, and public opinion of them is at an all time low. But they don't even realize it because they're all sitting on their moral high horses and the Media is telling them that they're right.

It's like the 2016 election all over again, every single day.

When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened.

Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 7:09 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

I keep waiting for your outrage over this kind of backward sexist bias - guess I'll have to keep waiting.- GSTRING
I was pretty outraged over the way Anita Hill was treated, but the DEMS trampled all over her and approved Thomas' appointment because ... yanno ... black. Identity politics at its finest. They got paid back for it because Thomas turned out to be somewhere to the right of Genghis Kahn. Well done, Biden!


^ I wondered about the truthfulness of this when I first read it... you're acting so certain and blaming the Dems was a dead give away. (See, by now I know your tells and I also know your deep seated bigotry. SIGHEIL!)

Of course the truth differs from what you said:

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/16/us/the-thomas-confirmation-how-the-
senators-voted-on-thomas.html

Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans.

Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
Looking forward to shooting down your next lie.

Soooooo...
43 Republican Senators.
Thomas was confirmed.

Yep. Dems definitely didn't confirm him. The majority of 41 was enough to confirm, since Democrats would use Libtard Maths to calculate that as majority.



Hey! You changed your answer! I guess you realized YOUR math was sh*t - what a putz.

Thomas was confirmed by a majority of Republicans, 4 - 1. I give you credit JSF, you are relentlessly stupid.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 7:13 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Never gradumatated 2nd grade cyphering?
41/2 is closer to 20/1 than 4/1.



You never even went to school, did ya JSF?
The split was 4 Reps to 1 Dem for Thomas.

60 to 5 is closer to 12 to 1 than 4 to 1 btw.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 9:26 AM

SHINYGOODGUY


Okay, I guess I have to spell it out.....

Rape is a real thing. It's not political, it's reality. What you are doing is
making wild accusations and a false narrative to justify calling Democrats
low-lives. That is as sick as RAPE itself.

Quote:

I'm sure you would have told me the exact same thing on November 7th of 2016.


I have no idea WTF you mean with this absolutely inane statement. Okay, I'm done trying to understand.


sgg


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm sure you would have told me the exact same thing on November 7th of 2016.

Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You didn't drink the Kool-Aid, you're swimming in it!


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's what the Leftists have devolved to. They are losing everything. Every argument. All power.

All they can do now is claim RAPE!!!!

It's all they've got, but they're foolishly wasting that and over saturating the public with it to the point you're hearing about something new every week.

How many Republicans and other non-Democrats running do you expect to hear rape claims about as the mid-terms approach.

My guess is more than one.


I think we're seeing the death of the Democratic Party in action. They don't even realize that they are killing themselves. Everything they do undermines their own efforts, and public opinion of them is at an all time low. But they don't even realize it because they're all sitting on their moral high horses and the Media is telling them that they're right.

It's like the 2016 election all over again, every single day.

When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened.

Do Right, Be Right. :)




Do Right, Be Right. :)


NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 10:02 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened. - SIX
Oh, I know what their answer will be ... RUSSIA!!!!

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

The Kavanaugh Affair Careened Off a Cliff

If Kavanaugh himself is even remotely involved in this, he’s toast:

The nomination was roiled further late Thursday by incendiary tweets from a prominent Kavanaugh friend and supporter who publicly identified another high school classmate of Kavanaugh’s as Ford’s possible attacker. Ed Whelan, a former clerk to the late justice Antonin Scalia and president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, pointed to floor plans, online photographs and other information to suggest a location for the house party in suburban Maryland that Ford described. He also named and posted photographs of the classmate he suggested could be responsible.

Ford dismissed Whelan’s theory in a statement late Thursday: “I knew them both, and socialized with” the other classmate, Ford said, adding that she had once visited him in the hospital. “There is zero chance that I would confuse them.”

It’s beyond belief that Kavanaugh might have something to do with a slanderous allegation like Whelan’s, but given the fact pattern in the Post account, it’s also a little hard to believe he wasn’t aware of what Whelan was up to. If Kavanaugh himself is even remotely involved in getting Whelan to slander a third party to take the pressure off of himself, Kavanaugh is toast.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/09/the-kavanaugh-affair-careened-o
ff-a-cliff-today
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 11:14 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh, I know what their answer will be ... RUSSIA!!!!

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

I see that the GOP's Ed Whelan apologizes for insinuating a Kavanaugh doppelgänger assaulted Ford. Tactically, Whelan made a very bad mistake. Now that everyone in the GOP has told him that his lies won't fly and could actually kill Kavanaugh's nomination, should it ever be investigated if Kavanaugh asked Whelan to lie for him, Whelan retracts everything, never admitting he lied to help Kavanaugh.

More at www.vox.com/2018/9/20/17885050/ed-whelan-kavanaugh-ford-accusation-sco
tus


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 11:30 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


We all know what's going on and it's a sad commentary on the GOP. They will pay in Nov.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 12:27 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
We all know what's going on and it's a sad commentary on the GOP. They will pay in Nov.

Maybe they won't pay. The GOP has a 68% chance of holding control of the Senate, which means Trump can cram whoever he wants onto the Supreme Court or into the Attorney General position after he fires Jeff Sessions, followed a few months later by shutting down Mueller.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/se
nate/?ex_cid=midterms-header


It is a different story in the House of Representatives. The GOP will almost surely pay a price where they can't pass their usual laws over the opposition of nearly every Democrat because there is an 80% chance the GOP loses control of the House. As Trump likes to say about predictions, "We will see."
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/ho
use/?ex_cid=midterms-header


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 12:54 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The person who really botched this whole thing was Feinstein. After reading Ford's complaint, she should have immediately told her that either the Senate would need to go public and start an investigation, or handed it back and told her to tear it up.

The problem with "secret" complaints is that the complainants want all of the up-side (put a complaint in file/ create a record; tarnish someone's reputation/prevent promotion) with none of the down-sides (having their word examined and cross-checked in public; allowing the accused to face their accuser). I find that cowardly. Worse, its a bad procedure which encourages baseless/ malicious complaints. Yes, I know ... women have a hard time dealing with this kind of conflict. But in the interests of fairness, they need to put their big-girl pants on and step up to the challenge.

I recall reading a story that really stuck with me because it was about a young woman very much like our daughter was: a then-16-year old with the mental age of a 7-year old, with poorly-controlled seizures that could be brought on by stress. Well, she was molested by a man, but a criminal charge could not be pursued unless she was willing to testify. This poor young woman, facing all of those challenges, DID testify even tho she paid for it with seizures afterwards. If SHE could manage the process, a a fully-competent, apparently wealthy and well-supported upper middle-class professor should be able to.



-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 1:03 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I find the tactics that the Dems are using . . .

There’s a strange dimension to the Republican campaign to push through Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination. It’s their insistence that he is “one of the most qualified Supreme Court nominees to come before the Senate,” as Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Chuck Grassley put it. “His credentials are well known.”

But an honest look at his career shows that it’s extraordinarily undistinguished.

Born into a privileged family that was well-connected in Republican Party politics, Kavanaugh coasted from Georgetown Prep, where he was apparently a hard partier, into Yale, where he joined the notoriously hard-partying secret society Truth & Courage, and then on to Yale Law School.

Soon after graduating, he got a gig working for independent counsel Ken Starr — a plum position for a Republican lawyer on the make because the Starr inquiry was supposed to take down the Clinton administration. Instead, it was an impeachment process that was so spectacularly misguided legally that Democrats pulled off the nearly impossible feat of gaining seats during a midterm election when they controlled the White House.

Kavanaugh clerked for Alex Kozinski, an appeals court judge who was well known to the lay public for his witty opinions and well known to the legal community as a sexual harasser. When the sexual harassment became a matter of public embarrassment in the wake of the #MeToo movement, Kavanaugh professed to have simply not noticed anything amiss.

More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/21/17876832/kavanaugh-trump-cri
sis-elite-accountability


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 1:09 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Okay, I guess I have to spell it out.....

Rape is a real thing. It's not political, it's reality. What you are doing is
making wild accusations and a false narrative to justify calling Democrats
low-lives. That is as sick as RAPE itself.



I'm making wild accusations and false narratives?

SHE is making wild accusations and false narratives.

Sorry, brother, but I never bought into this whole Leftist idea of "always believe the woman no matter what" bullshit long before Kavanaugh, and neither does most of the country.

You're making a choice to believe a 30+ year after the allegation, allegation. I would say that you're only doing that because of the politics behind it, but in this insane age we're living in where you're guilty until proven innocent I really can't say that for sure about your opinion.

Quote:

SGG: You didn't drink the Kool-Aid, you're swimming in it!


Quote:

6IX: I'm sure you would have told me the exact same thing on November 7th of 2016.


Quote:

SGG: I have no idea WTF you mean with this absolutely inane statement. Okay, I'm done trying to understand.



Oh, you don't, huh?

Let me spell it out for YOU.

The absolute DEVASTATION that a lot of Liberals felt when they woke up on the morning of November 9th, 2016 was due in VERY LARGE part to the Media that was lying to them by skewing polling data intentionally to show that Clinton was going to win by so much it wouldn't even be close when the exact opposite was true.

The same thing is happening with the Democratic party right now. It has doubled down on every bad aspect of itself in the last two years and the normies aren't buying it anymore. I expect fully to see the Republicans now maintain the majority in the house and senate, and you're going to have a lopsided Supreme Court in GOP favor as well.

The absolute best case scenario for the Dems right now is to take the house, like Second mentioned.




How does a thing like this happen under somebody so divisive as Trump? How can the Democrats be so hated by the average citizen that isn't firmly in their echo chamber that Trump likely grows in power 6 weeks from now?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 1:46 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Got a minute? Kavanaugh's High School Yearbook



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 2:08 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup. False rape allegations are hilarious.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 10:08 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

When the dust settles, they're going to look back and wonder what the fuck just happened. - SIX
Oh, I know what their answer will be ... RUSSIA!!!!

You mean it's not the fault of Bush41?

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, September 21, 2018 10:19 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

I keep waiting for your outrage over this kind of backward sexist bias - guess I'll have to keep waiting.- GSTRING
I was pretty outraged over the way Anita Hill was treated, but the DEMS trampled all over her and approved Thomas' appointment because ... yanno ... black. Identity politics at its finest. They got paid back for it because Thomas turned out to be somewhere to the right of Genghis Kahn. Well done, Biden!


^ I wondered about the truthfulness of this when I first read it... you're acting so certain and blaming the Dems was a dead give away. (See, by now I know your tells and I also know your deep seated bigotry. SIGHEIL!)

Of course the truth differs from what you said:

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/16/us/the-thomas-confirmation-how-the-
senators-voted-on-thomas.html

Voting yes were 11 Democrats and 41 Republicans. Voting no were 46 Democrats and 2 Republicans.

Hardly the "DEMS did it" as you claim.
Looking forward to shooting down your next lie.

Soooooo...
43 Republican Senators.
Thomas was confirmed.

Yep. Dems definitely didn't confirm him. The majority of 41 was enough to confirm, since Democrats would use Libtard Maths to calculate that as majority.


Hey! You changed your answer! I guess you realized YOUR math was sh*t - what a putz.

Thomas was confirmed by a majority of Republicans, 4 - 1. I give you credit JSF, you are relentlessly stupid.

My answer did not change. What are you smoking? How does 41:2 equal 4:1? How is 41 a majority of 100?

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND
SPEAKING OF UNDISTINGUISHED RECORDS OF THE PRIVILEGED: JOHN MCCAIN HERO OF THE NATION

Quote:

The untold truth of John McCain
Mike Redmond Nicki Swift @NickiSwiftCeleb

The late Arizona Sen. John McCain was well known for his long career in Congress and his two attempts at the presidency, particularly his most recent run against Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election. McCain's campaign on the Republican ticket famously pushed his running mate, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, into the national spotlight. Most people are probably also aware of McCain's heroic five-year stint in a Vietnamese prison camp. The naval aviator refused to use his family name as a bargaining chip and instead demanded the release of other soldiers. The details of McCain's political and personal life are an interesting tapestry that explain why the statesman earned his famous reputation as a maverick.

True to form, McCain continued striving to serve his country even after being diagnosed with a malignant brain tumor in 2017. That year, while fighting for his life, the senator "made a dramatic appearance in the Senate to cast a thumbs-down vote against his party's drive to repeal the Affordable Care Act," reported The New York Times. The powerful statesman died Aug. 25, 2018 at his home in Arizona. He was 81.

Though McCain's influential life has been well-documented, there are still elements of this story that are less familiar to the general public. Let's take a closer look at the untold truth of John McCain.

He had an awesome nickname in high school

John McCain's fiery personality was already evident during his high school days. His classmates, who dubbed him "Punk," had some interesting words for McCain in their senior yearbook. "His magnetic personality has won for him many life-long friends," the editors wrote, according to ABC News. "But, as magnets must also repel, some have found him hard to get along with."

To his close friends, McCain had an altogether different nickname that, unfortunately, didn't stick around for his political career: "McNasty." The sweet moniker reportedly came from his time on the wrestling team, but it would also be a fitting title for the start of McCain's military career.

After high school, McCain followed in the footsteps of his father, Adm. Jack McCain, and grandfather, Adm. John "Slew" McCain, by enrolling in the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Md. But right off the bat, the youngest McCain had trouble adapting to academy life, according to The Arizona Republic. He reportedly fought with upperclassmen, and every year, he earned a spot in the "Century Club" for earning more than 100 demerits for refusing to clean his quarters, shine his shoes, or show up on time for formation. He graduated near the bottom of his class, which turned out to be something of a family tradition as well.

Where the young McCain really excelled was with the ladies. His fellow cadets reportedly called him "John Wayne McCain" and often turned to him for advice when it came to the opposite sex. "He was graying at the temples, and it made him more dashing." said McCain's Naval Academy roommate. "It was a real adventure living with John."

He was a party animal while stationed in Florida

During his early years in the Navy, McCain was stationed in Pensacola, Fla., where he earned a reputation for throwing the "most raucous and longest beach parties of any squadron in the Navy," reported TIME. "He dated everyone from schoolteachers to the strippers at Trader John's [sic], the fabled airdale raunch bar, often returning to base just in time to change clothes and drag himself out to the flightline," according to Robert Timberg, author of John McCain: An American Odyssey.

The Arizona senator also described his relationship with an exotic dancer named Marie the Flame of Florida in his own book Faith of my Fathers. According to TIME, "McCain recounted one night out with friends, when the Flame reached into her purse, popped open a switchblade and began to clean her fingernails, shocking some of those around her. Afterwards, McCain wrote, he took the 'worldly, lovely Flame of Florida to dinner.'"



Read More: https://www.nickiswift.com/81138/untold-truth-john-mccain/?utm_campaig
n=clip


OR maybe I should recount the silver-spoon, womanizing life of JFK instead?

All you've possibly demonstrated is that RHIP, and so does wealth.


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Saturday, September 22, 2018 7:31 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Thomas was confirmed by a majority of Republicans, 4 - 1. I give you credit JSF, you are relentlessly stupid.

My answer did not change. What are you smoking? How does 41:2 equal 4:1? How is 41 a majority of 100?


You seem to have confused yourself on purpose - it seems to be a particular Trumpbot defense when they find themselves utterly wrong.

Let me help you:

Thomas won the nomination by the count of 41 Republicans 11 Democrats. Is that a 4 to 1 ratio?

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

YOUR OPTIONS

NEW POSTS TODAY

USERPOST DATE

OTHER TOPICS

DISCUSSIONS
Russian losses in Ukraine
Mon, March 18, 2024 23:45 - 982 posts
Punishing Russia With Sanctions
Mon, March 18, 2024 23:44 - 496 posts
In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
Mon, March 18, 2024 19:27 - 3338 posts
I'm surprised there's not an inflation thread yet
Mon, March 18, 2024 19:09 - 709 posts
Elections; 2024
Mon, March 18, 2024 19:08 - 1982 posts
Grifter Donald Trump Has Been Indicted And Yes Arrested; Four Times Now And Counting. Hey Jack, I Was Right
Mon, March 18, 2024 19:06 - 753 posts
MO AG Suing Large Nationwide Child Sex-slave Trafficker
Mon, March 18, 2024 15:24 - 2 posts
New Peer-Reviewed Research Finds Evidence of 2020 Voter Fraud
Mon, March 18, 2024 15:21 - 7 posts
RCP's No Toss-Up State Map (3-15-2024)
Mon, March 18, 2024 15:19 - 2 posts
Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
Mon, March 18, 2024 08:03 - 6091 posts
Israeli War
Mon, March 18, 2024 01:27 - 31 posts
CNN: Is the US on the brink of another civil war?
Mon, March 18, 2024 01:22 - 1 posts

FFF.NET SOCIAL