Kavanaugh by SIGNYM

Bottom line, we all know the democrats played politics as they always do but at times that's justified. The republicans played politics going back to denying Obama's Supreme Court pick. They denied him a hearing when Obama had 10 months left on his term.

No matter what the democrats were up to the facts had to be conducive to them voting no, and making the case as to why he is unfit to occupy a Supreme Court seat. A good enough case to block his nomination. The facts were conducive.

At this point the case has been made but this man may still be confirmed and that's very troubling. That's the bottom line and sig and Jack are incapable of seeing the forest for the trees as are so many others. Imagine, many have said this man should be confirmed even if the charges against him are true. Wow, that's sick.

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 10:49 AM

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I wasn't silent. I was very clear when I said that given the high political stakes here and the fact that the illiberal, regressive Leftitst have made crying Rape one of their go-to moves along with calling everyone a Nazi, I would have been more surprised if he wasn't accused of rape than I am that he was.

Nice try. I guess you weren't "silent" you just dodged answering the question because you didn't have the nerve to back up what you said. You even tried to qualify from 100% to "I'm 50-50 on everything...". You simply can't admit you made a bullsh*t, sweeping generalization about her. You had no ideas about her or her story but that ignorance didn't stop you from saying, "she's making unfounded allegations!"

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Me saying that that this is a false accusation is not broad, nor is it sweeping. It's a very targeted accusation on my part. And as far as "how do I know?"

Let me put it this way. I have just as much evidence that she threw out a false accusation as she has backing up her accusation.

Dear gawd. You weren't even involved, so just by that huge distinction you have zero evidence compared to the actual living through it evidence she has. Your logic is such sh*t. You should spend more time here asking questions than making statements.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do me a favor and Google Kavanaugh #MeToo
But yeah. I guess I'm just making that shit up. lol

You seriously can't read, or like SIGGY, just prefer to act stupid.

I said: "I don't see many posters talking about Me Too. #MeToo is certainly a part of this, but that's not what I'm most concerned with (because unfortunately you can't go back and charge "Brettski" with attempted rape). It's a "who do we want on the Supreme Court," movement. The fact that male contempt and disrespect for women is such a big part of it is telling and sickening. We should be so much further along as a society."

I said posters, HERE, in case you need clarification.

I also said, "#MeToo is certainly a part of this, but that's not what I'm most concerned with..."

You dig?

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 10:59 AM

I think we are further along in society. I think the Republicans know that, and they're doing everything they can to hang on to the old power structures they depend on. Packing the SCOTUS with reichwing Jesus freaks who see women as "handmaidens" is how they plan to do it.

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:02 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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I've seen a lot of different behavior from all kinds of people; after a while you just realize that they're all individuals. - SIGNY

Unless they're part of an Asian Lady Gang you mean. You do see how you just removed their individuality and packaged them into a group so you could dismiss or demean their actions, right? - GSTRING

Well, there was a third Asian woman involved, who provided an allegation with NO DATE AND NO PLACE (Was it the parking lot? The front lobby? Five years ago? Six?) much like Blasey-Ford. (Also, I read the investigation report.)

So, there were three women, all Asian, who would gather in a little group in a private corner of the lab before and after every step of the investigation, looking sideways at XXX if he happened to walk by ... it was pretty obvious what was going on.

They were Asian, they were women, and they ganged up on somebody. Hence Asian lady gang.

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To Siggy: You sound just like a bro. - GSTRING

You think "sounding like a bro" is an insult??
PREJUDICED MUCH?

If you were to read California law, you would realize that there is only ONE "unprotected class" here, and that is white young-to-middle aged hetero Xtian men. Any other class is protected from harassment by virtue of their sex, religion, color, sexual preference, age, etc. Since when did a group of people get "fair game" painted on their backs? Aren't we supposed to be professionally respectful of EVERYONE we work with, and not gang up/bully anyone on ANY grounds?

Dood, I supervised somewhere between 6-13 people of the course of 20 years with the threat of lawsuit hanging over my head that whole time, I had to be FAIR. I had to stick to EVIDENCE. I couldn't write a performance appraisal or participate in an investigation without knowing AND DOCUMENTING the who, what, when, where, and how. The "why" was something I steered the hell away from. One thing that was pounded into my head over the years was that you had to stick to observable actions, you couldn't opine or suspect or guess.

*****

There is ONE thing I learned from this whole mess: I always wondered why harassment investigations and hearings are so fucked up. Now I know that they fall into a separate class called "Title IX" hearings, which are not conducted like normal courtroom proceedings. Title IX investigations and hearings are designed to protect the complainant's identity. There were some pretty interesting twists as a result; the one that sticks out for me was when I was told to tell someone I can't tell you the complaint because you'd identify the person but whatever it is that you're doing you'll have to stop. I wish I was kidding!

Are they constructed this way because women are more easily frightened, and must therefore be saved from being scared? Or is it because the complaints usually point upwards, and therefore ANY complainant has the right to be protected from retribution?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The Kavanaugh affair has produced millions of words of comment. At this point, it’s a purely partisan fight.

Yup.

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I think pretty much everyone — Democrat and Republican alike — does know the truth of what happened: yada yada yada

The rest of this quote is a great example of why you shouldn't use broad, sweeping generalizations. Only people living in an echo chamber believe that statement to be the truth.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Nobody living around me thinks Ford's story was nothing. But I do. The Democrats near me believe Ford and believe she needs to be avenged! She was wronged by Kavanaugh. I do NOT believe that. I do NOT think her 35 years of ill mental health needs fixing by keeping Kavanaugh out of the Supreme Court. On the other hand, the Republicans near me think that Ford is a liar, and even if Ford's story is true, so what of it?

I am in a very select group that thinks that something is seriously wrong with Kavanaugh, right here and now, not the teenage Kavanaugh from 35 years ago. Kavanaugh reminds me of Bill Clinton saying I did not have sex with that woman, while he was on national TV. If Bill wasn't stupid, he would have apologized and saved himself a lot of trouble. Apologies are cheap. Kavanaugh should know that, too, because he worked on impeaching Bill Clinton. Kavanaugh should have apologized for his uncouth teen years and easily saved himself a lot of trouble.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:08 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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I am in a very select group that thinks that something is seriously wrong with Kavanaugh, right here and now, not the teenage Kavanaugh from 35 years ago. Kavanaugh reminds me of Bill Clinton saying I did not have sex with that woman, while he was on national TV. If Bill wasn't stupid, he would have apologized and saved himself a lot of trouble. Apologies are cheap. Kavanaugh should know that, too, because he worked on impeaching Bill Clinton. Kavanaugh should have apologized for his uncouth teen years and easily saved himself a lot of trouble. -SECOND

But only if he did what he was accused of. Otherwise, you're advocating that he apologize for something he didn't do, which itself would be disturbing.

I agree that there was something hinky going on. Having seen both Blasey-Ford and Kavanaugh, I think there was "hinky" all the way around. MY impression is that Ford was testifying as directed by the GOP on the Judiciary Committee because he was so ready to defer to the Committee, and that the Committee was concerned about politics/timing. But of course he could be sweating bullets because he WAS guilty and he knew it, so maybe that's just me.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:36 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

In any case, the FBI is on the case.

Judge says that's he's ready to answer any and all questions that the FBI puts to him (BTW people are not compelled to be interviewed by the FBI, they have to volunteer, so Judge is ready to volunteer.)

The investigation is supposed to be "limited in scope" ... I don't know if that means it's limited to Blasey-Ford's allegation or includes other allegations, but it's going to be done in a week. Presumably there will be more information when it's done.

IMHO there's no point in discussing this without further info.

******

SECOND, you have concerns about Kavanaugh's judicial record. Aside from his apparently unique belief that Presidents can't be indicted (or something) what else bothers you?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 11:39 AM

More Brett Kavanaugh Classmates Are Saying He Lied to Congress
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/09/more-brett-kavanaugh-clas
smates-are-saying-he-lied-to-congress/

Of course he lied. A lot. He lied when he got appointed to his current job. We all know that. Why would the Republicans want a known liar on the SCOTUS?

Well, I can think of a few reasons. They are absolutely not mutually exclusive:

He's going to rule in the Executive Branch's favor in the upcoming Gamble v US case, allowing Trump to effectively pardon state crimes.

A sitting SCOTUS justice with a compromised past gives them leverage.

Installing an obviously unqualified SCOTUS justice in a nakedly partisan and corrupt process will erode faith in the court and our institutions in general. This fits the Republican narrative.

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 1:55 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Never fear - the FBI is on the case! I wish I had more trust in the institution, but at least there'll be an investigation.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/29/politics/kavanaugh-fbi-background-inves
tigation/index.html
"... Sen. Jeff Flake, an Arizona Republican, sided with Democrats who had asked the FBI to look into allegations that Kavanaugh sexually assaulted Dr. Christine Blasey Ford when the two were teenagers in Maryland. The investigation will also look into an allegation made by Deborah Ramirez, who accused Kavanaugh of exposing himself to her at a party when they were students at Yale University ..."

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 1:57 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Never fear - the FBI is on the case! I wish I had more trust in the institution, but at least there'll be an investigation.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/29/politics/kavanaugh-fbi-background-inves
tigation/index.html

This is what my previous post was all about. Eroding faith in our institutions, egged on by Russian trolls.

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:03 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

You must mean Russian trolls like CNN and the NYTimes and USAToday.

FBI, Justice Dept. riddled with anti-Donald Trump, pro-Clinton bias
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/15/justice...fbi.../704
815002/
Jun 15, 2018 - When is political bias not political bias? When it is ... “FBI Employee” consoled Attorney 2 that “Trump's supporters are all poor to middle class, ...

F.B.I. Agents Gave Trump a Weapon Against Mueller. Republicans Are ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/.../politics/fbi-ig-report-house-heari
ng-republicans.ht...
Jun 19, 2018 - Though the report focused on the investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server and found no evidence that political bias ...

If you want to know whether Strzok was biased, just look at his texts ...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/opinions/strzok-hearing-bias-opinion...
/index.html
Jul 14, 2018 - FBI agent Peter Strzok's bias against then-candidate Donald Trump is ... political analysts professed to hear nothing new in FBI agent Peter ...
Peter Strzok fired from the FBI - CNNPolitics - CNN.com

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/13/politics/peter-strzok-fired-fbi/index.h
tml
Aug 13, 2018 - The FBI has fired Peter Strzok, an agent who was removed from the ... had an extramarital affair, that could be read as exhibiting political bias.

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:05 PM

No, I'm talking about you, Russian troll.

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 2:15 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
No, I'm talking about you, Russian troll.

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:00 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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This is what my previous post was all about. Eroding faith in our institutions

The institutions themselves are the cause of "eroding faith". When the M$M and the "intelligence" agencies consistently lie to promote war, and our "security state" institutes universal surveillance, and the political parties promote ridiculous conspiracy theories and identity politics and the "wealth gap" ... and we find out about it ... well, then.

I'm not a big believer in blind faith. Our institutions can earn back our trust, but they'll have to stop pandering to the elite in order to do it.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

This is what my previous post was all about. Eroding faith in our institutions
The institutions themselves are the cause of "eroding faith".

You quote zerohedge. Your concept of what is truthful and what is not disqualifies you from making judgements concerning honest institutions. I'll give you a hint. Mainstream means where most people get their information. Why, because they have the highest level of trust even in the worst of times.

You're by far the one who posts the most fake information in these threads. Laughable sig, your opinions are laughable. And I see once again you are quoting and having a conversation with yourself.

T

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:16 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
This is what my previous post was all about. Eroding faith in our institutions, egged on by Russian trolls.

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
You must mean Russian trolls like CNN and the NYTimes and USAToday.

FBI, Justice Dept. riddled with anti-Donald Trump, pro-Clinton bias
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/15/justice...fbi.../704
815002/
Jun 15, 2018 - When is political bias not political bias? When it is ... “FBI Employee” consoled Attorney 2 that “Trump's supporters are all poor to middle class, ...

F.B.I. Agents Gave Trump a Weapon Against Mueller. Republicans Are ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/.../politics/fbi-ig-report-house-heari
ng-republicans.ht...
Jun 19, 2018 - Though the report focused on the investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server and found no evidence that political bias ...

If you want to know whether Strzok was biased, just look at his texts ...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/opinions/strzok-hearing-bias-opinion...
/index.html
Jul 14, 2018 - FBI agent Peter Strzok's bias against then-candidate Donald Trump is ... political analysts professed to hear nothing new in FBI agent Peter ...
Peter Strzok fired from the FBI - CNNPolitics - CNN.com

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/13/politics/peter-strzok-fired-fbi/index.h
tml
Aug 13, 2018 - The FBI has fired Peter Strzok, an agent who was removed from the ... had an extramarital affair, that could be read as exhibiting political bias.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
No, I'm talking about you, Russian troll.

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
You quote zerohedge. Your concept of what is truthful and what is not disqualifies you from making judgements concerning honest institutions. I'll give you a hint. Mainstream means where most people get their information. Why, because they have the highest level of trust even in the worst of times.

You're by far the one who posts the most fake information in these threads. Laughable sig, your opinions are laughable. And I see once again you are quoting and having a conversation with yourself.

T

Maybe you need to have a talk with RF about his serious mistrust in CNN and the NYTimes and USAToday, as agents of Russian propaganda.

THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:18 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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You quote zerohedge. Your concept of what is truthful and what is not disqualifies you from making judgements concerning honest institutions. I'll give you a hint. Mainstream means where most people get their information. Why, because they have the highest level of trust even in the worst of times.

Truth is not determined by who "most people" trust.

At one time, most people trusted the church and believed that the earth was flat. At one time, most people trusted their shamans and believed that disease was caused by a curse. Or, to put it another way ... A billion flies eat shit. Why should I care who "most people" trust?

HOW do we determine what is true and what is not? HOW do we make sense of the welter of conflicting opinions? There is the scientific method. Perhaps you've heard of it?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 7:20 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:
You quote zerohedge. Your concept of what is truthful and what is not disqualifies you from making judgements concerning honest institutions. I'll give you a hint. Mainstream means where most people get their information. Why, because they have the highest level of trust even in the worst of times.
Truth is not determined by who "most people" trust.

At one time, most people trusted the church and believed that the earth was flat. At one time, most people trusted their shamans and believed that disease was caused by a curse. Or, to put it another way ... A billion flies eat shit. Why should I care who "most people" trust?

HOW do we determine what is true and what is not? HOW do we make sense of the welter of conflicting opinions? There is the scientific method. Perhaps you've heard of it?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

The Unbearable Dishonesty of Brett Kavanaugh
by Briahna Gray, Camille Baker

September 29 2018, 6:00 a.m.

Many of us who watched Thursday’s Senate hearing spent much of the time cataloguing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh’s lies. After hours of testimony, during which Dr. Christine Blasey Ford answered questions about her alleged sexual assault, the financing behind her lie-detector test, and whether she was really afraid of flying, viewers were treated to more hours of testimony from Kavanaugh, a federal judge who struggled to give a single straight answer.

Kavanaugh strained credulity when he argued before the Senate Judiciary Committee that the “Devil’s Triangle” — a phrase that appeared on his high school yearbook page — referred to a drinking game, a definition which, before Thursday, you’d have a hard time finding anywhere. (It actually refers to a sex act involving two men and a woman). He also unabashedly claimed that the term “boof” is a reference to “flatulence,” rather than other butt stuff, and that “ralph,” which means to vomit — implicitly from the overconsumption of alcohol — was a reference to Kavanaugh’s weak stomach.

Kavanaugh claimed references to “Renate Alumnius” in his yearbook were allusions to his friendship with classmate Renate Schroeder Dolphin, and not, as many understood, a sexist smear about her promiscuity. (Dolphin told the New York Times days before the hearing: “I can’t begin to comprehend what goes through the minds of 17-year-old boys who write such things, but the insinuation is horrible, hurtful and simply untrue.”) Kavanaugh even claimed to not really know Ford at all, despite her testimony that she “went out with” one of his close friends — someone whose name appeared in his now notorious calendar 13 times.

Kavanaugh’s choice to lie about things that are easily disproved speaks to a kind of hubris, or entitlement, that befits someone of his pedigree.

More at https://theintercept.com/2018/09/29/the-unbearable-dishonesty-of-brett
-kavanaugh/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:24 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
You quote zerohedge. Your concept of what is truthful and what is not disqualifies you from making judgements concerning honest institutions. I'll give you a hint. Mainstream means where most people get their information. Why, because they have the highest level of trust even in the worst of times.
Truth is not determined by who "most people" trust.

At one time, most people trusted the church and believed that the earth was flat. At one time, most people trusted their shamans and believed that disease was caused by a curse. Or, to put it another way ... A billion flies eat shit. Why should I care who "most people" trust?

HOW do we determine what is true and what is not? HOW do we make sense of the welter of conflicting opinions? There is the scientific method. Perhaps you've heard of it?

There is no chance Trolls have heard of it.

OTOH, quite a few people believe in:
Jesus Christ
Global Warming
Prophet Mohammed
AIDS
Dahli Lhama

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Saturday, September 29, 2018 8:38 PM

You guys hear about this one:

"Prove it! Michael Avenatti clears up that whole 4chan rumor thing … or DOES he? "

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/09/25/prove-it-michael-avenatti
-clears-up-that-whole-4chan-rumor-thing-or-does-he/

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 6:32 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Kavanaugh is far too partisan and angry to be on the Supreme Court.

Kavanaugh decided that to have any chance to reach the court, he would have to shed the pretense he was a fair-minded, calm, judicious thinker. He came out in the afternoon filled with venom, screaming at the committee. His life was being ruined, he claimed. This was a Clinton-like smear. His anger was both frightening and unexpected — if you thought he was that intellectual whom conservatives have swooned over. He yelled, and he cried. If you thought he was sincere, one could also appreciate how partisan and emotional he had become.

The shouting didn’t end with his opening statement. He barked at the ranking Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. Then the Republicans got into the screaming act, pushing their outside lawyer Rachel Mitchell aside in favor of histrionics from Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and John Cornyn, R-Texas. If President Donald Trump loved the nasty, male grievance game, the rest of us had reason to wonder if anyone of this temperament — Cornyn, Graham or Kavanaugh — should be in a position of power. If they were women, they would be called “hysterical.”

Kavanaugh, as of this writing, made a couple major errors.

First, he refused to call for an FBI investigation (even when Sen. Richard Durbin of Illinois invited him to ask it of White House counsel Donald McGahn). When Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., questioned about his friend Mark Judge, Kavanaugh slipped and said “you’d have to ask [Judge]”, who of course the Republicans refuse to summon as a witness. The refusal to get the facts is both a telling admission of concern about what they would find and a violation the judicial goal of truth-seeking. It’s a political calculation, exactly what you don’t want to see from a judge.

His anger toward liberals is palpable, his lack of humility bracing. He has the partisan mind-set that opponents are unworthy of respect. His heart is that of a conservative partisan, one who tried so very hard to make himself into Supreme Court material. The mentality of a political operative - willing to go on Fox News, ready to inflame passions, disrespectful toward opponents - is still there. A nonpartisan would ask for, if not demand, an FBI investigation and Judge’s appearance.

More at www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/outlook/article/This-nominee-is-far-t
oo-partisan-and-angry-to-be-13267464.php

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 7:19 AM

... stay crunchy...

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
You must mean Russian trolls like CNN and the NYTimes and USAToday.

FBI, Justice Dept. riddled with anti-Donald Trump, pro-Clinton bias
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/15/justice...fbi.../704
815002/
Jun 15, 2018 - When is political bias not political bias? When it is ... “FBI Employee” consoled Attorney 2 that “Trump's supporters are all poor to middle class, ...

F.B.I. Agents Gave Trump a Weapon Against Mueller. Republicans Are ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/.../politics/fbi-ig-report-house-heari
ng-republicans.ht...
Jun 19, 2018 - Though the report focused on the investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server and found no evidence that political bias ...

If you want to know whether Strzok was biased, just look at his texts ...
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/opinions/strzok-hearing-bias-opinion...
/index.html
Jul 14, 2018 - FBI agent Peter Strzok's bias against then-candidate Donald Trump is ... political analysts professed to hear nothing new in FBI agent Peter ...
Peter Strzok fired from the FBI - CNNPolitics - CNN.com

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/13/politics/peter-strzok-fired-fbi/index.h
tml
Aug 13, 2018 - The FBI has fired Peter Strzok, an agent who was removed from the ... had an extramarital affair, that could be read as exhibiting political bias.

You had all of this ready to post 6 minutes after RF posted? Amazing skill Kiki.

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 7:19 AM

I bet at this point that if he gets sworn in he's going to be the most partisan judge there ever was.

The entire Left has come at him, attacked him and his family, and has viewed him as guilty from the second the accusation was made.

Anybody who has any empathy at all can see that.

And if he does get sworn in, the way this entire thing was handled is going to be one in a growing line of extremely poor decisions the Democrats have made in recent years.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 7:27 AM

... stay crunchy...

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I've seen a lot of different behavior from all kinds of people; after a while you just realize that they're all individuals. - SIGNY

Unless they're part of an Asian Lady Gang you mean. You do see how you just removed their individuality and packaged them into a group so you could dismiss or demean their actions, right? - GSTRING
Well, there was a third Asian woman involved, who provided an allegation with NO DATE AND NO PLACE (Was it the parking lot? The front lobby? Five years ago? Six?) much like Blasey-Ford. (Also, I read the investigation report.)

So, there were three women, all Asian, who would gather in a little group in a private corner of the lab before and after every step of the investigation, looking sideways at XXX if he happened to walk by ... it was pretty obvious what was going on.

They were Asian, they were women, and they ganged up on somebody. Hence Asian lady gang.

Hence, you no longer thought of them as individuals as you bragged about earlier.

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You think "sounding like a bro" is an insult??
PREJUDICED MUCH?

Well, it was meant as one. Are you sure you know what "bro" means?
Yes, totally PREJUDICED against bros and bro behavior. It's childish and embarrassing - it's looks bad on young people and even worse in adults.

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 8:24 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I bet at this point that if he gets sworn in he's going to be the most partisan judge there ever was.

The entire Left has come at him, attacked him and his family, and has viewed him as guilty from the second the accusation was made.

Anybody who has any empathy at all can see that.

And if he does get sworn in, the way this entire thing was handled is going to be one in a growing line of extremely poor decisions the Democrats have made in recent years.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

So, can Kavanaugh decide a case based on the law rather than his feelings? Forty years from now, will Justice Kavanaugh still be bitter at long dead Senators who asked questions? If he can't act judicially during a job interview, when he is suppose to be on his best behavior, it would be a strong indication he won't be doing his best in the future, once he is a Supreme Court justice for life and there is no pressure, except from a Chief Justice to behave well. What is Kavanaugh going to do if the Chief Justice is, heaven forbid, a Democrat? Throw a tantrum?

Saturday Night Live casts Matt Damon as Brett Kavanaugh.

Damon is from Boston and his big breakthrough, Good Will Hunting, vivisected the sort of rich kid prep school alumni/Ivy Leaguer types that populate that city in some of the movie’s most famous scenes. Damon knows these dudes, and in playing Kavanaugh he captured some essential part of the man, in a way that felt a little bit cathartic, even if you think Kavanaugh has been unjustly accused.

The sketch was mostly a collection of real moments from the hearing (including when Kavanaugh asked Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar (played by cameo-ing former SNL star Rachel Dratch) if she had ever drank so much that she blacked out). But it was also just generally an attempt by Damon to capture Kavanaugh’s je ne sais quoi. He snorted and sniffed. He spilled water all over himself. He announced, up top, “I’m gonna start at about an 11, then I’m gonna take it to a 15 real quick!”

More at www.vox.com/culture/2018/9/30/17919106/saturday-night-live-premiere-ma
tt-damon-brett-kavanaugh-cold-open

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 8:44 AM

Art imitating life second. Good post...

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 8:51 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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You had all of this ready to post 6 minutes after RF posted? Amazing skill Kiki.

Why, yes I did, thanks to google! Have you never used it? You should try it sometime! In this case I typed in * fbi biased political * and then copy /pasted the paragraphs from the results page, skipping any with known political leanings, like politico which came up first; or unsubstantiated claims like Strozk denying he was biased, which came up second; ... and so on.

And btw, you should never be amazed that anyone can be better and faster at this than you because - well, you and your cohorts really suck at information-gathering. You truly do. You are abysmal at it. A blind kindergärtner could do better.

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:23 AM

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So, can Kavanaugh decide a case based on the law rather than his feelings?

Tell me a single time that Sotomayor didn't vote along party lines.

The whole Supreme Court is a partisan hack job these days. There hasn't been objectivity there for decades.

I don't have to ask you why you feel it's so important that Kavanaugh's swearing in is blocked. You're the only one here attacking him for legitimate reasons instead of being a part of the Leftist hate mob.

Your answer to this question would have been the same 3 months ago as it is today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:25 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
You had all of this ready to post 6 minutes after RF posted? Amazing skill Kiki.
Why, yes I did, thanks to google! Have you never used it? You should try it sometime! In this case I typed in * fbi biased political * and then copy /pasted the paragraphs from the results page, skipping any with known political leanings, like politico which came up first; or unsubstantiated claims like Strozk denying he was biased, which came up second; ... and so on.

And btw, you should never be amazed that anyone can be better and faster at this than you because - well, you and your cohorts really suck at information-gathering. You truly do. You are abysmal at it. A blind kindergärtner could do better.

It's what happens when you truly believe that your smartphone makes you smarter.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:47 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

OMFingG !!!

I has forgotten about that! THANKS for the lol start of the day!

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 9:54 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

What I'm wondering is ... WHAT IF the FBI investigation shows nothing? Then what? Will facts move anyone's mind an angstrom's worth of distance?

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:04 AM

What I wonder is why Trump is telling the press the FBI has free reign when the FBI is block from talking to all Kavanaugh's accusers. What's up with that shit???The White House gave the FBI a list of who they can speak with. What's up with that shit???

The most ironic thing about all this is that kiki and sig don't realize the people they are shading for believe they are second class citizens. So kiki since I am a man and you are a women you shouldn't be heard here. Your posts are hysterical because you are ruled by emotion and not logic. So, you should listen to what the men are saying and keeping your illogical rantings to yourself.

Watch this wind up as kiki's new signature.
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Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:08 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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What I'm wondering is ... WHAT IF the FBI investigation shows nothing? Then what? Will facts move anyone's mind an angstrom's worth of distance?

There is the obvious fact of Kavanaugh's testimony. Ford was polite and quiet in recounting her accusation against Kavanaugh; he was angry and loud in his denials of the allegations against him.

Both Ford and Kavanaugh fielded questions from senators and the prosecutor. But only Ford made an effort to answer every single question.

Kavanaugh actively dodged questions. He often repeated the same non-answer over and over. Other times, he insisted on answering a question with “context” — which inevitably was a long story about his childhood — but never actually answered the question. Kavanaugh was practically shouting: “If you think I’m angry now, just wait until I get on that Supreme Court because then you’re all going to pay.”

Every time Ford and Kavanaugh did or did not answer a question
https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/1046093510515060745/photo/1

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:35 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Quote:

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/28/652558787/what-difference-would-it-make
-if-the-fbi-were-to-investigate-kavanaugh

The FBI Is Going To Investigate Kavanaugh After All. What Does That Mean?

September 28, 201812:23 PM ET
Philip Ewing

A wild turn of events on Friday flipped a new FBI investigation into Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh from a long shot into a sure thing.

That was one result of an eleventh-hour agreement among the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee after a contentious session of offstage horse-trading.

The panel voted to recommend the embattled Kavanaugh to the full Senate on the condition that the final floor vote not take place until after the FBI conducted a background investigation into allegations of sexual misconduct confronting the nominee.

The inquiry would be "limited in scope" and completed within a week. The White House later Friday ordered the bureau to do just that. The FBI is expected to produce a report for the White House, which the administration would then give the Senate.

The compromise

Democrats and outside groups had been calling for the FBI's involvement since the allegations by Christine Blasey Ford and other women first surfaced that Kavanaugh had assaulted them or committed other such acts — allegations that Kavanaugh strongly denies.

Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., pitched the delay and new investigation to his compatriots, apparently setting that as his condition for ultimately supporting Kavanaugh on the Senate floor.

Republican leaders, who need every vote they can get to confirm the nominee, agreed. Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, had opposed involving the FBI but said Friday he would take up Flake's case. Ultimately he secured an agreement with Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. "We've had a good day today by moving the nominee," Grassley told reporters. "A good day. We're very happy with the progress we've made."

Democrats said the compromise was the right move. "I think it will be better for the country that this FBI investigation occur," Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., told NPR. "I'm not sure what the answers will be. It's possible some of the witnesses won't even agree to talk with FBI. ... But to think we wouldn't even try would be the saddest thing for the country."

What happens next

The new deadline for a Kavanaugh vote is Oct. 5. Grassley asked President Trump to instruct the FBI to spend that week conducting interviews, reviewing documents and looking into the new accusations. The president agreed.

"The supplemental FBI background investigation would be limited to current credible allegations against the nominee and must be completed no later than one week from today," Grassley said.

It wasn't immediately clear whether "current credible allegations" would mean the FBI would interview only people connected with Ford's case or with some of the other women who have come forward with allegations against Kavanaugh.

The FBI is unlikely to open a criminal investigation. Instead, its investigators are expected to pursue the same kind of background inquiry they have conducted on Kavanaugh in the past, focused on the new allegations.

The nominee said in a statement released by the White House that he would go along. "Throughout this process, I've been interviewed by the FBI, I've done a number of 'background' calls directly with the Senate, and yesterday, I answered questions under oath about every topic the Senators and their counsel asked me," Kavanaugh said. "I've done everything they have requested and will continue to cooperate."

At least one key player in this drama also volunteered to talk: Mark Judge — a boyhood friend of Kavanaugh's who has been accused by Ford of being a bystander to her sexual assault and was named in other allegations — said in a letter to the Judiciary Committee that he would cooperate under certain conditions.

Judge renewed his denials about being involved with any sexual misconduct and said that he would "cooperate with any law enforcement agency that is assigned to confidentially investigate these allegations."

Why would the FBI make a difference? It's a crime to lie to Congress, but lying to the FBI is a whole other matter. And there is a practical difference between people in the Kavanaugh case issuing written statements — as Judge and others have done — and actually sitting down with human special agents.

Investigators might glean details from people involved that aren't yet in the public eye. They might discover there are more people, including witnesses or others, than have been a part of the public accounting so far.

But the FBI will not give its own determination about the truthfulness of what witnesses say — one reason Grassley and Kavanaugh both earlier said they opposed activating the bureau. Investigators probably only will conduct interviews and then pass them to the Senate, they said.

Even if the bureau serves only as a gold-plated transcription service in this case, the completeness of those transcripts might exceed the body of evidence that now exists — and it would be evidence obtained from witnesses who could be prosecuted if they lied to the feds.

Democrats and outside groups — and now, Flake — argue that the information that has surfaced recently means the FBI must look into Kavanaugh again.

Ford told the Judiciary Committee she hadn't told anyone about her alleged sexual assault by the 1990s, when Kavanaugh was screened for a job in the Justice Department, or even by the early 2000s, when he was cleared to work in the White House of President George W. Bush.

Many Republicans say the due diligence on Kavanaugh already was complete. Now that the Judiciary Committee has voted to recommend him to the full Senate, they argue, the full chamber must decide.

NPR correspondent Tim Mak contributed to this report.

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:42 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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They were Asian, they were women, and they ganged up on somebody. Hence Asian lady gang. - SIGNY
Hence, you no longer thought of them as individuals as you bragged about earlier.- GSTRING

No, I still think of them as individuals. HOWEVER, in THIS instance they acted together ... colluded ... conspired ... towards a common goal. It would be folly not to recognize that.

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You think "sounding like a bro" is an insult??
PREJUDICED MUCH? - SIGNY

Well, it was meant as one. Are you sure you know what "bro" means? - GSTRING

Yes, I know what "bro" means. My point was that you CLAIM to think of and treat people as individuals, you criticized me for calling a group of conspirators a "gang" and yet, there you are ... castigating an entire CATEGORY of totally unknown individuals.

I mean, would it have been any different if you said "You sound like a Jew"? Isn't lumping people together like that ... in your mind ... an act of prejudice?

Just sayin'.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:50 AM

... stay crunchy...

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Yes, I know what "bro" means. My point was that you CLAIM to think of and treat people as individuals, you criticized me for calling a group of conspirators a "gang" and yet, there you are ... castigating an entire CATEGORY of totally unknown individuals.

I mean, would it have been any different if you said "You sound like a Jew"? Isn't lumping people together like that ... in your mind ... an act of prejudice?

Just sayin'.

Completely different. I'm prejudiced against a behavior that defines a category. Do you think all Jews behave the same? Does a behavior constitute who is a Jew?

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:55 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"I'm prejudiced against a behavior that defines a category."

prej·u·dice
'prej?d?s/
noun
noun: prejudice; plural noun: prejudices

1.
preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.

When a group of particular Asian women in fact get together to professionally persecute targeted individuals, describing them as Asian ladies who gang up on people isn't prejudice - it's a summary of observable facts.

When YOU, OTOH try to claim Signy posts 'like a bro' you're ascribing unevidenced, non-factual, PREJUDICIAL group characteristics to an individual. You are prejudiced.

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 10:59 AM

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 11:02 AM

Mother who backs Trump says men groping women is 'no big deal' in MSNBC interview
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/408691-msnbc-interviews-trump-suppo
rter-who-says-men-groping-women-is-no-big-deal

What a great thing to teach your kids.

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 11:05 AM

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Many Republicans say the due diligence on Kavanaugh already was complete. Now that the Judiciary Committee has voted to recommend him to the full Senate, they argue, the full chamber must decide.

Analytical precision is a big part of the job of a Supreme Court Justice. How should we view a federal judge who seems not to understand that he is not on trial, but at a job interview? Who, due to a lack of understanding, emotes as though the stakes were that of a criminal proceeding. It was concerning to hear a federal judge clamor for “due process” as he sidestepped opportunities to call witnesses, hear evidence, or have his name cleared by the FBI. (Not Kavanaugh but GOP Senator Flake called for the FBI. Trump approved using the FBI only because Flake, all by himself, could have sunk Kavanaugh with a NO vote.)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 11:29 AM

How we know Kavanaugh is lying

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/09/how-we-know-kavanaugh-is-lying

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 12:21 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

The democrats are hoping that this hail Mary pass will save the day. While I'm happy that there'll be at least some type of extra vetting - hail Mary passes rarely work irl. Unless there's some egregious heretofore unnoticed boulder of a problem, I don't think it will change the outcome.

Well, that's what you get when you've lost the Senate and House years ago - and then you lose the Presidency.

tic tac

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 2:12 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
The democrats are hoping that this hail Mary pass will save the day. While I'm happy that there'll be at least some type of extra vetting - hail Mary passes rarely work irl. Unless there's some egregious heretofore unnoticed boulder of a problem, I don't think it will change the outcome.

Well, that's what you get when you've lost the Senate and House years ago - and then you lose the Presidency.

1kiki, you are wrong per your usual. It is Jeffry Flake, the GOP Senator from Arizona who threw this pass, not the Democrats. And Flake only did it because he is retiring and some women who are NOT Democratic Congresswomen lobbied him. If it wasn't for Flake, Kavanaugh would already be on the Supreme Court because it was 11 Republicans, including Flake, versus 10 Democrats on the Justice Committee.

"Jeff Flake barely slept the night before he upended the battle for the Supreme Court. Flake shocked Washington with a dramatic last-minute call to delay the confirmation so that the FBI could spend a week investigating the accusation against Kavanaugh."
www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/flake-kavanaugh-interview
/571735/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 3:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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So, can Kavanaugh decide a case based on the law rather than his feelings?

Tell me a single time that Sotomayor didn't vote along party lines.

The whole Supreme Court is a partisan hack job these days. There hasn't been objectivity there for decades.

I don't have to ask you why you feel it's so important that Kavanaugh's swearing in is blocked. You're the only one here attacking him for legitimate reasons instead of being a part of the Leftist hate mob.

Your answer to this question would have been the same 3 months ago as it is today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Somebody has been paying attention.

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 4:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
You had all of this ready to post 6 minutes after RF posted? Amazing skill Kiki.
Why, yes I did, thanks to google! Have you never used it? You should try it sometime! In this case I typed in * fbi biased political * and then copy /pasted the paragraphs from the results page, skipping any with known political leanings, like politico which came up first; or unsubstantiated claims like Strozk denying he was biased, which came up second; ... and so on.

And btw, you should never be amazed that anyone can be better and faster at this than you because - well, you and your cohorts really suck at information-gathering. You truly do. You are abysmal at it. A blind kindergärtner could do better.

It's what happens when you truly believe that your smartphone makes you smarter.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Most of the time I see smartphones make their owners dumber. Far dumber, but delusioned into believing they are smarter. Troll inability to know context exacerbates this.

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 4:17 PM

Worth quoting

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 4:41 PM

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Worth quoting

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Yup. I knew you were going to enjoy RF's torture porn.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, September 30, 2018 4:42 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
So, can Kavanaugh decide a case based on the law rather than his feelings?

Tell me a single time that Sotomayor didn't vote along party lines.

The whole Supreme Court is a partisan hack job these days. There hasn't been objectivity there for decades.

I don't have to ask you why you feel it's so important that Kavanaugh's swearing in is blocked. You're the only one here attacking him for legitimate reasons instead of being a part of the Leftist hate mob.

Your answer to this question would have been the same 3 months ago as it is today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Somebody has been paying attention.

Pretty much makes me one in a million, if the mindless tribalism on the internet is something to judge the entire population on.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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