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What would it have taken to stop Hitler?

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Monday, October 22, 2018 1:51 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/10/trump-defines-gende
r.hhs/573544
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This hopefully would never come to pass... and if it did- not for long... BUT...
What WOULD it take to stop Twitler??

If you still can't see the analogy between the two, you have learned NOTHING from history...

Oppression of unpopular minorities? Check.




"But when you look back on the history of Germany or Italy or any country that descended into fascism, what do you actually think were the warning signs?"

"The warning signs now will be different from the warning signs then. The warning signs then were the brutalization and militarization of politics, ****leaders of political parties who had no scruples in ordering the murder or the beating up or imprisonment of their opponents*****. You had racial hatred of such an order that it led eventually to the murder of millions. And I include Italy in that, because although Italians were not by and large anti-Semitic, they certainly committed murder on a huge scale when they invaded Ethiopia in 1935 on racial grounds. And I think the fascist project was to remake human beings into a new kind of ruthless, hard, pitiless entity really, and to expunge humanitarianism from the political system and from people’s consciences."


Calling for body slamming or locking up opponents, CHECK.

Provoking other countries until they come at you and then spinning it as "THEIR FAULT WE HAD TO MURDER THEM"

Yeah, that's coming when those migrants do what they gonna do.

When humanitarianism becomes expunged, we will embark on this horrid circle around again...



JSF, 6ix, you still gonna be cheering when the bodies hit your street? How far are you willing to let fascism GO in this country before you see it for what it is???


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Monday, October 22, 2018 5:41 AM

JO753

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It woud hav taken a better version uv sivilization (call it a government if you want).

Ourz may still be good enuf to stop Trump, but wut if he wuznt a total moron?

He gets little credit for getting this far. It wuz mostly the efforts uv otherz that got him elected in spite uv himself and Ryan & McConnel get the credit/blame for keeping him in offis.

Az I understand it, Hitler wuznt an idiot, so I think a modern equivelent coud go even farther here in modern America than Hitler did in Germany.

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Monday, October 22, 2018 8:07 AM

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The Ku Klux Klan deeply affected Adolf Hitler. He explicitly praised the 1924 Immigration Act, which severely limited the number of immigrants allowed to enter the US, as a useful model.

The 1920s and the 1930s was a very fascist time in the United States. You’ve got very patriarchal family values and a politics of resentment aimed at black Americans and other groups as internal threats, and this gets exported to Europe.

So we have a long history of genocide against native peoples and anti-black racism and anti-immigration hysteria, and at the same time there’s a strain of American exceptionalism, which manifests as a kind of mythological history and encourages Americans to think of their own country as a unique force for good. Afterthought: A clever politician can use those ingredients to get into a state's legislature, Congress, or sometimes even the White House.

This doesn’t make America a fascist country, but all of these ingredients are easily channeled into a fascist politics.

More at www.vox.com/2018/9/19/17847110/how-fascism-works-donald-trump-jason-st
anley


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 22, 2018 8:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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JSF, 6ix, you still gonna be cheering when the bodies hit your street? How far are you willing to let fascism GO in this country before you see it for what it is???


Uh oh. Looks like more NPCs chanting "muh Fascism!"



lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 22, 2018 8:22 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Without WW2, would we have a jet engine, inter continental rocketry, atomic power, the space race, satellites, the modern computer and mobile cell phones which we use to communicate?

In the end the Axis powers made so many enemies they were doomed, Hitler was stopped

Here's one question, if Hitler was all about 'Racial Purity' .... as claimed in history books.... then why did he ally himself with other nations like Japanese, Italian Somaliland, Eritrea, Indian Hindu fascist movements, Kingdom of Romania, Ethiopian lands, the Burma puppet government, what was this alliance of the Axis powers? these people don't look very blonde Germanic to me

The arty types and pot smokers many years after WW2 listening to Reggae, would later turn Haile Selassie into some kind of god or messiah?

Stop Hitler? Before he Starts?
sounds like the plot of some video game or was it the movie Iron Sky?



build a time machine?... Go back and tell everyone WW1 is the last war

Tell everyone...the 1930s Italians the Roman Empire was kinda crap and degenerate and sleazy .... Make the Russians, British, French and Germanys all get along with each other...how so? I don't know but there's a possibility the EU trade block maybe NATO has brought some form of stability to the continent of Europe ...maybe forgive Germany its debts so it does not have to pay back millions and millions for WW1? I dunno help Japan a little tell them kamikaze is not cool, tell them their Emperor is a little inbred moron, set them up with some deal for trade and energy and resources, also tell the Japanese not to follow the European way of Empire building, Slavery is wrong, Imperialism is a mistake

Also tell the people of the 1930s Communism is bullshit and Fascism is also another form of bullshit
Tell them Hitler is mostly retarded, he might get the buses and trains to run on time but he's scum, a loser, electing him is not worth it

Now the boogeyman, scapegoat? wandering tribes of religious jews, the judean money lenders writers, the Jewish loaners and Israelite zealots all these tribes of peoples .... they were seen as the cult or islamics or boogeyman of their day

and SOMETIMES not all the conspiracy were wrong

sometimes PirateNews would get things correct
He was paranoid about the Jewish thing tribes in North Africa Spain another group around the Middle East, some lots tribes maybe in India or Somalia and another tribe who migrated across Iran Russia then into Europe... PirateNews would rant A LOT, Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jewish populations certain blood types and certain DNA markers ?...Jews back in their day sometimes behaved much like crazy arab islamists or jihadi, they could be EXTREME, they at times did not fit in and making them fit into European nation states could be like banging a square peg into a round hole


in fact they, these various Jewish groups, probably played a large role in East European revolutions, the rise of the bolsheviks, lennism, stalnism, marxists... A lot of the people involved in these protests and movements were in fact JEWISH and millions died during these times, thanks in part to Jewish influence in these radical movements

Very few history books in the Free United States of America will mention the Jewish role in how millions of their fellow abrahamic religions died, millions killed in Eastern European movements Jews were part of?

Solution would be to go back in time and buy a a chunk of Arabia maybe somewhere near Haifa, Jerusalem, Haifa ... of course that would piss of moslems but the SPOILER here is muslims by way of their Quran or Koran are actually instructed to hate all non-muslim AKA infidels, so they will be pissed off no matter what you do

So let's say randomly buy some island away in the middle of nowhere for a Jew State a Jew Nation, you put Jewish there on a random far away island for their own homeland. Montserrat, Easter Island, Madagascar, Falklands aka Islas Malvinas, Kergullen...even if you gave Jewish their random Israeli state in the middle of nowhere, its possible somebody somewhere could find a reason to start a fight over resources, or buried oil or religious reasons or some crap.

The human species is an intelligent but greedy and a violent creature, they will kill over gold, diamonds, paper, stupid political comments, religious fairytales and just about anything

Humanity does have to evolve
I'm not sure its possible to 'make us' evolve, even if we traveled back in time and tried to force it it possibly would not work, peoples the civilizations have to learn and chose themselves

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Monday, October 22, 2018 8:26 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

JSF, 6ix, you still gonna be cheering when the bodies hit your street? How far are you willing to let fascism GO in this country before you see it for what it is???


Uh oh. Looks like more NPCs chanting "muh Fascism!"

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump has been ranting about the Migrant Caravan. He said a Jew (Soros) and the Democrats are paying for the Caravan, which means he flat out lied his head off. He is in a panic to change the law before they get to the border, laws that have been around for decades. Trump is stirring up in 2018 the same fearful, weak-willed, and directionless "Independents" that voted for him in 2016. He will be their leader. He will give them a purpose in life that they have long sought, but could not find for themselves. He will make them great again.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 22, 2018 8:36 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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JSF, 6ix, you still gonna be cheering when the bodies hit your street? How far are you willing to let fascism GO in this country before you see it for what it is???


Uh oh. Looks like more NPCs chanting "muh Fascism!"

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump has been ranting about the Migrant Caravan. He said a Jew (Soros) and the Democrats are paying for the Caravan, which means he flat out lied his head off. He is in a panic to change the law before they get to the border, laws that have been around for decades. Trump is stirring up in 2018 the same fearful, weak-willed, and directionless "Independents" that voted for him in 2016. He will be their leader. He will give them a purpose in life that they have long sought, but could not find for themselves. He will make them great again.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



You'll see in another thread here that J0 created that I'm skeptical of the caravan. Why now? It does seem rather fortuitous for the Republicans. (October Surprise?)


Where I take issue with your comment here is when you say "changing the law that's been around for decades".

I'm happy we're finally enforcing laws that already exist. You can't just come here with no documentation and claim that it's shitty where you live and leach off the system.

Why don't we just allow people in the inner-city to storm your plantation and make camp there then? At least we know who they are and there is demonstrable proof that they could use a hand. You and people like you have got the money to make it happen.

Put those ill-earned Republican tax breaks you always brag about to some good use.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 22, 2018 8:41 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Not all stuff about Soros is lies or paranoia, he is kinda like the Rockerfeller or J P Moragn of his time. The Media, the global media has certain interests certain investments and Soros himself is into weird shit, I don't think he is part of every conspiracy but some 'conspiracy' about him may be true. He has been in Kosovo with money, various controversial European movements, in Africa, in the Ukraine right about when a War kicked off, and wanted his mother to be part of some kind of commit suicide movement in Portlandia Oregon

Here's a wiki quote


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros
Soros is known as "The Man Who Broke the Bank of England" because of his short sale of US$10 billion worth of Pound sterling, which made him a profit of $1 billion during the 1992 Black Wednesday UK currency crisis.

He is the founder of the Open Society Institute, possibly paid Bill Clinton, Obama, Hillary and others a lot of money, is mentioned in wiki leaks style news stories.


Like any political mudslinging its possible there is another final deception, a final play in all these smoke and mirrors games?

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Monday, October 22, 2018 9:28 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Put those ill-earned Republican tax breaks you always brag about to some good use.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Jesus Christ, 6ix, you keep forgetting Trump cut his own taxes. It was all about him. It was never about me. I'm just an unintended side effect of Trump's schemes to accumulate money for himself. He lied when he said, “It’s not good for me. Believe me.” He lied some more: “the benefits are focused on the middle class, the working men and women, not the highest-income earners,” such as Trump himself.

Trump repeated the message at a speech in Missouri. “It is going to cost me a fortune, this thing,” Trump said, referring to the GOP tax plan. “Believe me, believe me, this is not good for me.”

Yet simply put, tax experts do not believe him.
http://time.com/money/5045078/donald-trump-gop-tax-plan/

Just that one tax bill Trump engineered will give him at least a billion dollars. I can't tell how many more billions because Trump also lied about making the calculation accurately because he won't reveal his numbers as he promised many times, lying many times.
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/nov/27/lloyd-doggett/
how-much-does-trump-family-have-gain-gop-tax-bills
/

If the GOP does not hold on to Congress, Trump will lose that money. He is very willing to lie in 2018 so that his tax laws don't get changed. That would cost him billions.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 22, 2018 9:55 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

Here's a wiki quote

Like any political mudslinging its possible there is another final deception, a final play in all these smoke and mirrors games?

Here is a Trump quote from this morning's news: “Sadly, it looks like Mexico’s Police and Military are unable to stop the Caravan heading to the Southern Border of the United States. Criminals and unknown Middle Easterners are mixed in. I have alerted Border Patrol and Military that this is a National Emergy. Must change laws!”
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1054351078328885248

“Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador were not able to do the job of stopping people from leaving their country and coming illegally to the U.S. We will now begin cutting off, or substantially reducing, the massive foreign aid routinely given to them,” Trump wrote. Trump did not write that he was giving shoot-to-kill orders along the border. He did not order Soros's arrest, so it is all good. Actually, it is not.

More at www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-caravan/trump-calls-u-s-bou
nd-migrant-caravan-a-national-emergency-says-will-cut-aid-idUSKCN1MW1QM


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 22, 2018 10:29 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by second:
The Ku Klux Klan deeply affected Adolf Hitler. He explicitly praised the 1924 Immigration Act, which severely limited the number of immigrants allowed to enter the US, as a useful model.

The 1920s and the 1930s was a very fascist time in the United States. You’ve got very patriarchal family values and a politics of resentment aimed at black Americans and other groups as internal threats, and this gets exported to Europe.

So we have a long history of genocide against native peoples and anti-black racism and anti-immigration hysteria, and at the same time there’s a strain of American exceptionalism, which manifests as a kind of mythological history and encourages Americans to think of their own country as a unique force for good. Afterthought: A clever politician can use those ingredients to get into a state's legislature, Congress, or sometimes even the White House.

This doesn’t make America a fascist country, but all of these ingredients are easily channeled into a fascist politics.

second has again managed to accidentally veer into reality.
Yes, Hitler was a great admirer of Democrats, Slavers, and the Activists of The Democrat Party (Ku Klux Klan). That is why he copied all of their anti-freedom policies. Why Nazis were the Democrats of Germany.

However, the modern day Hitler was Obama and he was term-limited, no matter how many Wars he successfully created. The weak-minded masses seemed pleased to regurgitate all of his AntiConstitutional dogma.

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Monday, October 22, 2018 12:12 PM

REAVERFAN


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

JSF, 6ix, you still gonna be cheering when the bodies hit your street? How far are you willing to let fascism GO in this country before you see it for what it is???


Uh oh. Looks like more NPCs chanting "muh Fascism!"



lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Which Nazi site did you get that from?

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Monday, October 22, 2018 1:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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JSF, 6ix, you still gonna be cheering when the bodies hit your street? How far are you willing to let fascism GO in this country before you see it for what it is???


Uh oh. Looks like more NPCs chanting "muh Fascism!"



lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Which Nazi site did you get that from?



Google Images.

Fucking Silicon Valley Nazis. Am I right?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 22, 2018 1:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Put those ill-earned Republican tax breaks you always brag about to some good use.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Jesus Christ, 6ix, you keep forgetting Trump cut his own taxes.



I didn't forget. I'm not talking about Trump. I'm talking about you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 22, 2018 4:18 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"If you still can't see the analogy between the two, you have learned NOTHING from history"

Baby doll, it's you who doesn't know history.

Trump is not Hitler, not by a parsec.

Aside from the dire economic straits of former middle class Germans starving to death due to war reparations, Hitler came to power because his brownshirts assassinated his rivals both within the party and outside of it; attempted a coup which put him in an undisputed leadership position; and was later appointed Chancellor; and he stayed in power because his secret police aka the Gestapo (and the brownshirts' successor) made sure there was no opposition. It wasn't by accident that Hitler went after the trade unionists and communists first.

When you can show me that Trump has an assassination squad, that has been assassinating political rivals and opposition, that he has planned and attempted a coup, and that he's been appointed into authority by a political power abdicating a title ... you might have a case.

Otherwise, you're deeply out of touch with the facts.



tic tac

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Monday, October 22, 2018 8:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

"But when you look back on the history of Germany or Italy or any country that descended into fascism, what do you actually think were the warning signs?"
Extreme economic collapse, and the failure of the then-government to effectively address the people's distress.

Hyperinflation

Children playing with worthless money


Hunger: Women waiting in line for a chance to buy spoiled meat


Soup kitchens




I know I mentioned this before, but hubby, when he was a young man, used to work for someone who remembers boiling and eating shoe leather when HE was a young man in Weimar Germany.

https://www.facinghistory.org/weimar-republic-fragility-democracy/prim
ary-sources/weimar-economics


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America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Monday, October 22, 2018 8:48 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:


When you can show me that Trump has an assassination squad, that has been assassinating political rivals and opposition, that he has planned and attempted a coup, and that he's been appointed into authority by a political power abdicating a title ... you might have a case.





OHhhhh, so then you're A-OK with everything... right up to the "death squads" part, and THEN it's wrong. Good to know where you draw lines

Congratulations...YOU'RE part of the problem


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Monday, October 22, 2018 8:50 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Extreme economic collapse, and the failure of the then-government to effectively address the people's distress.



Trump is working on that, give him a minute.

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Monday, October 22, 2018 8:57 PM

JO753

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Great cover art!

Deleted a paragraf that wuz stoopid kuz I thot this wuz the chimp in the nuke control room topic!



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Monday, October 22, 2018 9:04 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Uh oh. Looks like more NPCs chanting "muh Fascism!"



Good to see 6ix thinking for himself...Oh wait, I mean that other thing...

You spout one more alt-right buzzword, Nazi Boy, Imma start calling you B.B.- for Brainwashed, Baby! Yeaaah! Scrub a dub dub, no brain cells left to rub!




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Monday, October 22, 2018 9:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol muh Nazi.

Nobody takes you seriously when you say such stupid things.

Sure. I'm a Nazi. I'm alt right.

I don't even agree with half of what JSF says here, and he's not even close to alt-right.

You are an idiot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 22, 2018 9:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"OHhhhh, so then you're A-OK with everything"

You don't make much of a case by being a lying sack of shit.

You were wrong to compare an actual historical figure like Trump to an actual historical figure like Hitler, where there are actual historical facts that can be compared and contrasted. Get a grip - or at least a clue - get over it, and move on.






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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:55 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Nobody takes you seriously when you say such stupid things.

Sure. I'm a Nazi. I'm alt right.

I don't even agree with half....





So which half DO you agree with? The part where white people should play perpetual overlords, or just white males? The part that feels threatened and insecure about any other race or gender of people doing ANYTHING you aren't capable of?
Yeah, It's ok to have feelings, but if you aren't a Nazi you keep the dumber, baser, racist ones to yourself.

You may be just shy of "numbnuts" instead of "malignant" on the Nazi Spectrum, but the point is....... YER ON IT.




Oh, here's the list of people who take have ever taken you seriously.








































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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 2:08 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:


You don't make much of a case by being a lying sack of shit.

You were wrong to compare an actual historical figure like Trump to an actual historical figure like Hitler,



Why so mad Kiki bunny? Defending a tyrant getting old?

Hmm, even the experts on history see the comparison...
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/02/09/hitler-expert-says-preside
nt-trump-pulls-from-mein-kampf-to-normalize-tyranny/21710684
/




THE ONLY DIFFERENCE?

He further notes, "I find the president boorish, peevish, lacking the requisite intellectual curiosity, possessing no appreciation for the institutional memory, who at times embraces a loose association with the truth, ***but that is a far cry from chanting 'Seig Heil' in unison." ***

If Trump ordered the military to open fire on that migrant caravan, how many of his followers would be chanting "Heil Trump" the next day?

How many bloodthirsty ignorant hicks would have a race to fap over the bodies of dead migrants?

Still oblivious as ever, I see.

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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 2:23 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol muh Nazi.

Nobody takes you seriously when you say such stupid things.

Sure. I'm a Nazi. I'm alt right.

I don't even agree with half of what JSF says here, and he's not even close to alt-right.

You are an idiot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

I almost half wondered what alt-right was, then remembered I don't really half care what BungBetty's craziness begets.

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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 2:37 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


How many history experts are there in the US? And how many did you find that made that comparison?

And how many say the opposite?
http://theconversation.com/trump-hitler-comparisons-too-easy-and-ignor
e-the-murderous-history-92394

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/opinion/trump-isnt-hitler-but-the-l
ying.html

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/why-comparing-trumps-ameri
ca-to-nazi-germany-misses-the-point.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ Don't compare Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. It belittles Hitler.


But let's not just total up numbers of experts, shall we? That's 'appeal to authority' and is a false argument.

How about you address the actual - yanno - topic, instead of appealing to authority and indulging in ad hominems like a lying sack of shit?



Tell me, why do those important factual, historic differences between Trump and Hitler not matter?


After you ...




tic tac

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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 2:38 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody takes you seriously when you say such stupid things.

Sure. I'm a Nazi. I'm alt right.

I don't even agree with half....


So which half DO you agree with? The part where white people should play perpetual overlords, or just white males? The part that feels threatened and insecure about any other race or gender of people doing ANYTHING you aren't capable of?
Yeah, It's ok to have feelings, but if you aren't a Nazi you keep the dumber, baser, racist ones to yourself.

You may be just shy of "numbnuts" instead of "malignant" on the Nazi Spectrum, but the point is....... YER ON IT.

Oh, here's the list of people who take have ever taken you seriously.

Are coherency and BungBetty crazy rant mutually exclusive?

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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:01 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
You don't make much of a case by being a lying sack of shit.

You were wrong to compare an actual historical figure like Trump to an actual historical figure like Hitler,


Why so mad Kiki bunny? Defending a tyrant getting old?

Hmm, even the experts on history see the comparison...
https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/02/09/hitler-expert-says-preside
nt-trump-pulls-from-mein-kampf-to-normalize-tyranny/21710684
/


THE ONLY DIFFERENCE?

He further notes, "I find the president boorish, peevish, lacking the requisite intellectual curiosity, possessing no appreciation for the institutional memory, who at times embraces a loose association with the truth, ***but that is a far cry from chanting 'Seig Heil' in unison." ***

If Trump ordered the military to open fire on that migrant caravan, how many of his followers would be chanting "Heil Trump" the next day?

How many bloodthirsty ignorant hicks would have a race to fap over the bodies of dead migrants?

Still oblivious as ever, I see.

Experts on History? From aol? How are they not history embodied?

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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 6:06 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Extreme economic collapse, and the failure of the then-government to effectively address the people's distress. - SIGNY

Trump is working on that, give him a minute. - WISHY



Of course, the fact that the WEALTH GAP ZOOMED OUT OF CONTROL UNDER OBAMA had nothing to do with Trump's election!

Dearie, the NEXT economic collapse was baked into the cake ever since the last economic collapse.

Why? you ask?

Because the LAST economic collapse was set into motion by a mountain of bad debt, and the answer to THAT fiasco (under Obama) was to create and even BIGGER mountain of bad debt to "pay off" the OLD bad debt!

We're going to face a "margin call" the likes of which has never been seen before, and there's only one way out of it: bankruptcy. We (collectively) have an unpayable debt in the form of trillions upon trillions of petrodollars that the Fed kindly printed for us (with interest) and which we spewed all over the world.

This didn't just happen under Trump (unless you have the memory of a goldfish, in which case NOTHING happened two or more years ago!) but under Obama and GWB and Pappy Bush and most of the Presidents all the way back to Eisenhower.

So please get your head into the real world for a change. I'm more concerned about Social Security than I am about ridiculous comparisons of Trump to Hitler.



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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 10:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Nobody takes you seriously when you say such stupid things.

Sure. I'm a Nazi. I'm alt right.

I don't even agree with half....





So which half DO you agree with? The part where white people should play perpetual overlords, or just white males? The part that feels threatened and insecure about any other race or gender of people doing ANYTHING you aren't capable of?
Yeah, It's ok to have feelings, but if you aren't a Nazi you keep the dumber, baser, racist ones to yourself.

You may be just shy of "numbnuts" instead of "malignant" on the Nazi Spectrum, but the point is....... YER ON IT.




Oh, here's the list of people who take have ever taken you seriously.








































.



Says the inbred from Southern Indiana who hates everything that has a penis.

I see your break from the RWED hasn't done anything to cure your malignant disposition Wishy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:33 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Experts on History? From aol? How are they not history embodied?



Hey dumbass, you do realize that that same article is all over the internet, right? I'm sure even Faux news picked it up.

DO you have Alzheimer's or something?? You can't seem to recall things A LOT.

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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:42 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody takes you seriously when you say such stupid things.

Sure. I'm a Nazi. I'm alt right.

I don't even agree with half....


So which half DO you agree with? The part where white people should play perpetual overlords, or just white males? The part that feels threatened and insecure about any other race or gender of people doing ANYTHING you aren't capable of?
Yeah, It's ok to have feelings, but if you aren't a Nazi you keep the dumber, baser, racist ones to yourself.

You may be just shy of "numbnuts" instead of "malignant" on the Nazi Spectrum, but the point is....... YER ON IT.


Oh, here's the list of people who take have ever taken you seriously.


Says the inbred from Southern Indiana who hates everything that has a penis.

I see your break from the RWED hasn't done anything to cure your malignant disposition Wishy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Not quite all with a penis, just the normal ones. Seems she has penchant for the tiny penis that can diddle her Bunghole.

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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:47 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


...I'm more concerned about Social Security than I am about ridiculous comparisons of Trump to Hitler.




You should be, the tax cuts for big business have done more to ensure SS's demise than anything he could have done. I imagine Hitler would have done the same to save his cronies at the expense of everyone else.

Either way, it's becoming clear "The American Dream" is going to include crappy, expensive healthcare and no retirement. Yaaay, US.




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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:51 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Seems she has penchant for the tiny penis



If anyone here would know all about a tiny penis and an even tinier brain, it's you




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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:52 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

I imagine Hitler would have done the same to save his cronies at the expense of everyone else.- WISHY

Wow, you "imagine" what Hitler "would have" done? What is THAT based on? Certainly not any kind of history that anyone else knows!

IMHO, your comparison of Trump to Hitler is based entirely on that ... your own imagination. Well, imagine away, WISHY! Just don't expect us to accept your imaginings as anything other than that.


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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:54 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Says the inbred from Southern Indiana who hates everything that has a penis.




Just the ones that talk out of theirs like you do all the time

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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 1:56 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Wow, you "imagine" what Hitler "would have" done? What is THAT based on? Certainly not any kind of history that anyone else knows!

IMHO, your comparison of Trump to Hitler is based entirely on that ... your own imagination. Well, imagine away, WISHY! Just don't expect us to accept your imaginings as anything other than that.




Me, and the expert from the article...Pretty sure he has more cred than either of us, but only one has the sense to LISTEN.

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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 2:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

the expert from the article.
Appeal to authority. Invalid argument. Indicates that you can't support his contention with facts of your own.

By the way, your link only yields FILE NOT FOUND 404 making it impossible to parse any further than your quote.



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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 3:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


WISHY, you seem to have confused "Nazism" with authoritarianism.

There are all kinds of flavors of authoritarianism, INCLUDING THE DNC's. Their constant promotion of Russia as an enemy (Be afraid! Be very afraid!), characterization of half of the voting public as "deplorables" and promotion of their very own left-wing authoritarianism ....

Out-of-control "political correctness" requirements,
Censorship of the marketplace of ideas,
Innocent until proven guilty unless you're white men accused of a sex crime in which case you're automatically guilty,
Constantly dividing people on the basis of gender, color, age etc
Promotion of "punch a Nazi" and other acts of political violence ...

Well, maybe you really should look in the mirror once in a while! Promoting one kind of authoritarianism while claiming to fight another - that's just counterproductive, isn't it?

Maybe if the Democrats had DONE MORE TO ADDRESS THE ECONOMIC PLIGHT OF AMERICANS INSTEAD OF SUCKING UP TO INTERNATIONAL BANKS AND CORPORATIONS ... they might have done better in the elections. MAYBE IF THE DEMS START REPRESENTING WORKING AMERICANS AGAIN, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO RESORT TO SUCH UNETHICAL AND DIVISIVE MEANS.

I mean, really ... what is WRONG with representing Americans? The Dems avoid it like the plague!

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