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Friday, February 22, 2019 3:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. But it's impossible to get a straight answer from anyone around here.



Especially when they turn tail and run:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62964

You make all of these ridiculous statements, get called out to defend them, and then run away screaming like your hair is on fire.




Unlike you who makes a habit of just completely disappearing when you've been owned, or just throw out a ton of insults and psuedo reasoning so off topic that you change a debate entirely from post to post.

Nobody is running from you, son. You just could never appreciate how difficult it is to be rocking a 3 digit IQ and trying to converse with somebody who's struggling to break 80.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 22, 2019 3:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The question was directed at Marcos. I want to know why he gives a shit about anything else going on in the world right now if he's convinced that we're all dead.



Just putting the blame where it belongs. People in a position to do something are doing nothing, or worse.



Do you or don't you believe that we're all dead? You've said it quite a few times on this thread.

I want to know why you even care about anything else if you actually believe that this is the case.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 22, 2019 11:03 PM

REAVERFAN


There are Dems as stupid as Republicans.

Feinstein can suck my ass.

Watch this. She's disgusting.

Real Dems need to primary her. Get a caring person in there.


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Saturday, February 23, 2019 2:07 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The question was directed at Marcos. I want to know why he gives a shit about anything else going on in the world right now if he's convinced that we're all dead.- SIX

Just putting the blame where it belongs. People in a position to do something are doing nothing, or worse. REAVERBOT

Do you or don't you believe that we're all dead? You've said it quite a few times on this thread.

I want to know why you even care about anything else if you actually believe that this is the case.

Do Right, Be Right. :)- SIX

I hope you realize that you'll never get an answer to this question SIX, because REAVERBOT's programmi... er, brainwashing ... er, ideological possession ... is far too limited to recognize - much less handle- internal logical errors.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 2:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh... I know the drill.

Comes with the territory when you're dealing with people who routinely speak in hyperbole and are hypocritical to the core.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 7:25 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


6IXSTRINGJACK: "Unlike you who makes a habit of just completely disappearing when you've been owned..."

Since I've never been owned that's never happened. I'm right here, dude.

6IXSTRINGJACK: "... or just throw out a ton of insults and psuedo reasoning so off topic that you change a debate entirely from post to post."

Sorry direct reasoning and solid logic throw you off. I'll be more gentle, promise.

6IXSTRINGJACK: "Nobody is running from you, son. You just could never appreciate how difficult it is to be rocking a 3 digit IQ and trying to converse with somebody who's struggling to break 80."

^ That's you running, right there in writing.

All I see from you are insults, deflections and no substance. Let's go - defend your sh*t:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62964

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:13 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Do you or don't you believe that we're all dead? You've said it quite a few times on this thread.

I want to know why you even care about anything else if you actually believe that this is the case.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

My sincere belief is that we're done for. We've got a century left, tops. Our inaction has reaped the whirlwind.

Would it be impossible to limit it to 2 degrees C? Maybe not. I think we should try. I've been trying for 30 years.

But people are comfortably numb. Why go vegan when you can get a cheeseburger for a buck?

The video I posted above illustrates why I think it's too late to save us.


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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:00 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
6IXSTRINGJACK: "Unlike you who makes a habit of just completely disappearing when you've been owned..."

Since I've never been owned that's never happened. I'm right here, dude.

6IXSTRINGJACK: "... or just throw out a ton of insults and psuedo reasoning so off topic that you change a debate entirely from post to post."

Sorry direct reasoning and solid logic throw you off. I'll be more gentle, promise.

6IXSTRINGJACK: "Nobody is running from you, son. You just could never appreciate how difficult it is to be rocking a 3 digit IQ and trying to converse with somebody who's struggling to break 80."

^ That's you running, right there in writing.

All I see from you are insults, deflections and no substance. Let's go - defend your sh*t:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62964



Would you like me to go back and find all the times you disappeared? I'm sure I could queue up a whole ass load of replies I'm waiting on from you then.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:45 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
6IXSTRINGJACK: "Unlike you who makes a habit of just completely disappearing when you've been owned..."

Since I've never been owned that's never happened. I'm right here, dude.

6IXSTRINGJACK: "... or just throw out a ton of insults and psuedo reasoning so off topic that you change a debate entirely from post to post."

Sorry direct reasoning and solid logic throw you off. I'll be more gentle, promise.

6IXSTRINGJACK: "Nobody is running from you, son. You just could never appreciate how difficult it is to be rocking a 3 digit IQ and trying to converse with somebody who's struggling to break 80."

^ That's you running, right there in writing.

All I see from you are insults, deflections and no substance. Let's go - defend your sh*t:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62964



Would you like me to go back and find all the times you disappeared? I'm sure I could queue up a whole ass load of replies I'm waiting on from you then.




Sure, but... funny coincidence: I'm on a week break starting Monday and I am not typing replies on a phone. Line 'em up and I'll get to 'em when get back to a computer.

In the mean time... so about Trump's Fascist view of our Free Press "they are the enemy of the people!" which is an attack on Free speech of a much greater importance than a private company bumping some wing nut off their free service. You don't see that either I suppose? You don't see the liabilities these free services face by allowing people to say anything? Like some crazy believer who posts "Clinton's pedophilia acts in a pizza shop" that encourages someone to go and shoot the place up? What would they be liable for if that f-wad actually killed someone?

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


There won't be any lineup. I'm not going to waste my time because you're either going to ignore them outright or just throw more insults my way. Maybe if I'm bored between workshifts next week I'll dig them up here and there and throw them your way for a chuckle.



As for the second part of your reply. That's all bullshit. What you're talking about is censorship and punishing thought crime.

It's hilarious to me how you can bring up Pizzagate out of one side of your face and yet you're perfectly fine with people like Rachel Maddow doing the exact same thing while she gets paid 7 million dollars a year to do it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Trump can tweet all he wants, he can't do much.

He WOULD do free speech a big favor, tho, if he broke up those giant media and internet monopolies, and maybe we would get some REAL free speech instead of monetized speech for change.

If it's not "free" (as in beer) it's not "free" (as in freedom). Free, as in freedom AND beer, I say!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:52 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:52 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:53 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The dratted "unknown error" quadpost!

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:53 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


There won't be any lineup. I'm not going to waste my time because you're either going to ignore them outright or just throw more insults my way. Maybe if I'm bored between work shifts next week I'll dig them up here and there and throw them your way for a chuckle. I think about as highly of your opinion as I do what my farts think, so I wouldn't hold your breath.



As for the second part of your reply. That's all bullshit. What you're talking about is censorship and punishing thought crime.

It's hilarious to me how you can bring up Pizzagate out of one side of your face and yet you're perfectly fine with people like Rachel Maddow doing the exact same thing while she gets paid 7 million dollars a year to do it.

Youtube content creators cannot be held responsible for what crazy people do. If you break the law, you pay the price.

What your idiots you watch do is much more damaging. They're ripping the country in half.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:54 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


There won't be any lineup. I'm not going to waste my time because you're either going to ignore them outright or just throw more insults my way. Maybe if I'm bored between work shifts next week I'll dig them up here and there and throw them your way for a chuckle. I think about as highly of your opinion as I do what my farts think, so I wouldn't hold your breath.



As for the second part of your reply. That's all bullshit. What you're talking about is censorship and punishing thought crime.

It's hilarious to me how you can bring up Pizzagate out of one side of your face and yet you're perfectly fine with people like Rachel Maddow doing the exact same thing while she gets paid 7 million dollars a year to do it.

Youtube content creators cannot be held responsible for what crazy people do. If you break the law, you pay the price.

What your idiots you watch do is much more damaging. They're ripping the country in half.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:55 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


There won't be any lineup. I'm not going to waste my time because you're either going to ignore them outright or just throw more insults my way. Maybe if I'm bored between work shifts next week I'll dig them up here and there and throw them your way for a chuckle. I think about as highly of your opinion as I do what my farts think, so I wouldn't hold your breath.



As for the second part of your reply. That's all bullshit. What you're talking about is censorship and punishing thought crime.

It's hilarious to me how you can bring up Pizzagate out of one side of your face and yet you're perfectly fine with people like Rachel Maddow doing the exact same thing while she gets paid 7 million dollars a year to do it.

Youtube content creators cannot be held responsible for what crazy people do. If you break the law, you pay the price.

What your idiots you watch do is much more damaging. They're ripping the country in half.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


There won't be any lineup. I'm not going to waste my time because you're either going to ignore them outright or just throw more insults my way. Maybe if I'm bored between work shifts next week I'll dig them up here and there and throw them your way for a chuckle. I think about as highly of your opinion as I do what my farts think, so I wouldn't hold your breath.



As for the second part of your reply. That's all bullshit. What you're talking about is censorship and punishing thought crime.

It's hilarious to me how you can bring up Pizzagate out of one side of your face and yet you're perfectly fine with people like Rachel Maddow doing the exact same thing while she gets paid 7 million dollars a year to do it.

Youtube content creators cannot be held responsible for what crazy people do. If you break the law, you pay the price.

What your idiots you watch do is much more damaging. They're ripping the country in half.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 3:06 PM

REAVERFAN


Neoliberalism has conned us into fighting climate change as individuals

Stop obsessing with how personally green you live – and start collectively taking on corporate power
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/true-north/2017/jul/17/neolibe
ralism-has-conned-us-into-fighting-climate-change-as-individuals?fbclid=IwAR1K0LAb1FfbTJ7eb5ormlAyIwzWCOpACH6M84ndL5aD2QjflaSqS27G8b0

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:37 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There won't be any lineup. I'm not going to waste my time because you're either going to ignore them outright or just throw more insults my way. Maybe if I'm bored between work shifts next week I'll dig them up here and there and throw them your way for a chuckle. I think about as highly of your opinion as I do what my farts think, so I wouldn't hold your breath.



Ha! Like I thought you would.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
As for the second part of your reply. That's all bullshit. What you're talking about is censorship and punishing thought crime.



I have no idea what you're talking about.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's hilarious to me how you can bring up Pizzagate out of one side of your face and yet you're perfectly fine with people like Rachel Maddow doing the exact same thing while she gets paid 7 million dollars a year to do it.



Why does it matter so much to you what she makes? Making up a story about Hillary using a pizza shop as a child sex ring is the same as... what does Maddow do that's the same? Explain that one (Don't worry, I know you won't).

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What your idiots you watch do is much more damaging. They're ripping the country in half.



And yet it's the people of Trump tv and Limbaugh, and Stone and the guy who was just arrested with 15 guns and a hit list of democrats to kill who are calling for civil war.


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Saturday, February 23, 2019 8:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I know you have no idea what I'm talking about. It's like trying to teach physics to a kindergartner.

Maddow's certainly got her prime audience on her hook. There isn't one single way that you are ever going to be convinced that there was no Russian collusion. When that happens, you're all going to turn on Mueller... My prediction is that you'll accuse him of being a Putin puppet too.

And Maddow will keep getting her ratings.


The only thing we agree on is that Limbaugh is a piece of shit.




Here's one from over a year ago. Maybe I'll be bored enough to look for more one day.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62031

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 8:37 PM

REAVERFAN


Rapid Loss of Biodiversity Placing Global Food Supplies at Risk of 'Irreversible Collapse'
"This should be at the top of every news bulletin and every government's agenda around the world."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/02/22/terrifying-rapid-loss-bio
diversity-placing-global-food-supplies-risk-irreversible


According to FAO's study of 91 countries around the world, the loss of thousands of plant and animal species is affecting air and water quality, tree and plant health, and worsening the spread of disease among livestock—all with dangerous implications for the human population and humans' food sources.

"Less biodiversity means that plants and animals are more vulnerable to pests and diseases. Compounded by our reliance on fewer and fewer species to feed ourselves, the increasing loss of biodiversity for food and agriculture puts food security and nutrition at risk," said Jose Graziano da Silva, FAO's director-general.

"Consider biodiversity as a global puzzle," Switzerland's secretary of state for agriculture, Bernard Lehmann, said Friday. "Losing too many pieces makes the picture incomplete. Thus, biodiversity loss for food and agriculture represents a big risk for food security."

Along with the report, FAO shared a video on Twitter outlining the dire implications of biodiversity loss.

"Today only nine crops account for 66 percent of total crop production," the organization said. "Our forests are shrinking. As they disappear so do the plants, insects, and animals they host...Now is the time to act."

Along with the report, FAO shared a video on Twitter outlining the dire implications of biodiversity loss.

"Today only nine crops account for 66 percent of total crop production," the organization said. "Our forests are shrinking. As they disappear so do the plants, insects, and animals they host...Now is the time to act."

There will be a tipping point. We're just about there.

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Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:02 PM

SHINYGOODGUY


The Earth will brush off all that "man" has to offer, like so much dandruff, smile and keep on spinning. We humans might not fare too well, but Mother Earth will keep on spinning.

For her this is a blip on the radar screen. I'm of the mind that a huge asteroid, the global killer, is out there lurking and well on it's way to
our little corner of the universe. We are but a pimple on the ass of the universe, a minor speck of dust in the vastness of space. So, all of this
bullshit doesn't mean a thing in the grand scheme of things.


SGG


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Originally posted by reaverfan:


https://phys.org/news/2010-06-humans-extinct-years-eminent-scientist.h
tml


https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/10/so-many-animals-will-go-extinct
-in-the-next-50-years-that-it-will-take-earth-at-least-3-million-years-to-recover
/

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/10/earths-sixth-mass-
extinction-event-already-underway-scientists-warn


https://medium.com/@Cliffhanger1983/the-collapse-of-civilization-manifesto-2039c6a5327

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/09/21/mit-professor-predi
cts-earths-next-mass-extinction-to-begin-by-2100/#375f64a96e57


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Sunday, February 24, 2019 12:16 AM

REAVERFAN


Alongside this, the problem of malnutrition has gone from being a disease that affects those who don’t have enough to eat to one that affects those who eat more than they need. In 2006, the UN recognised the term ‘Type B malnutrition’ as a way of describing this phenomenon.
https://www.hospitalityandcateringnews.com/2019/02/nutrient-collapse-b
iofortified-food-wont-feed-world/?fbclid=IwAR0STa8GUDtZAHztZ7gckf2KDueLFmeGut0AqrnquLM_jIjjKpsu2vqyFQM


1/3 of Americans are overweight. Another 1/3 are obese.


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Sunday, February 24, 2019 12:41 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Alongside this, the problem of malnutrition has gone from being a disease that affects those who don’t have enough to eat to one that affects those who eat more than they need. In 2006, the UN recognised the term ‘Type B malnutrition’ as a way of describing this phenomenon.

1/3 of Americans are overweight. Another 1/3 are obese.




This isn't an overpopulation problem though. It's really not a money issue either.

I eat extremely cheap compared to your average American, and I never go hungry. 2 years ago I ate like total crap and I was drinking beer by the tanker truck. By all means I should be dead right now. But with a physical job and a huge change in my diet I just got perfect blood work back and my BMI is good.... And that's even after putting on about 10 to 12 pounds I didn't have during the warm months when I was doing a lot of work outside on my days off.


This is really a lazy issue. People are lazy. People like fast food. People like the ease of eating processed and microwave food instead of cooking for themselves.

I don't really care much for cooking, or learning how to cook new things, so my diet is fairly limited right now, but if I were to learn there are many more things I could be adding to my diet that would be good for me that wouldn't break the bank. I make less than $15k per year and I eat better now than I've ever eaten in my life. It is possible, but it's work and a bit of self discipline thrown in for good measure.

And for the love of god, don't drink soda no matter what other crap you're putting in your body.




26 months ago at the peak of my drinking before I quit, I was nearly 225 lbs. A fat sack of shit that had pain all over just from doing nothing. During the summer last year, I was an extremely lean 150 lbs. During the cold months I've bounced around from between 158 and 166 lbs. I've gone from Obese to an athletic build the right way.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, February 24, 2019 5:09 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Red The Marching Moronz.

Not a great story. Not well ritten. Only the bare bonez idea uv a guy from the past saving the day in a world gon stoopid connects it to Idiocrasy.

It wuz orijinally published in 1951. Interesting that Kornbluth forsaw a future uv overpopulation and idiosy that far back. I gess he wuznt the first or only, but for wutever reazon hiz story wuz very influential.

Robocop also haz sum connecting elements. "I'd buy that for a dollar!" on a moronic TV show.

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http://www.7532020.com .

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Sunday, February 24, 2019 6:07 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Not too surprising when you compare it to what Orwell predicted back in 1949. Pretty much the only thing in that book he was wrong about was having any chance of spotting the microphones that were always listening.

Maybe he would have predicted that too, but it would have destroyed some major plot points if Winston couldn't actually see them.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, February 24, 2019 6:36 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I know you have no idea what I'm talking about. It's like trying to teach physics to a kindergartner.



No - you articulation of a point is sh*t.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Maddow's certainly got her prime audience on her hook. There isn't one single way that you are ever going to be convinced that there was no Russian collusion. When that happens, you're all going to turn on Mueller... My prediction is that you'll accuse him of being a Putin puppet too.



Your understanding of the rest of the world is sh*t too. Many of us have already said there may or may not be "collusion." We're not hanging on that. Certainly there was collusion of a kind, but is that kind prosecutable? Probably not. Obstruction though - he's got jail time coming as soon as he's not president. I don't know what Trump loyalists think collusion means. Maybe you can explain. Do you think we're expecting to find a check for his membership dues to Putin's Collusion Club? Do you even understand what it means to be an unwitting asset? I doubt it - prove me wrong. Use all of those iq points you think you have.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Here's one from over a year ago. Maybe I'll be bored enough to look for more one day.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62031



Yep - I was traveling and beating a dead horse lost all it's appeal. My bad.

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Sunday, February 24, 2019 6:51 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Red The Marching Moronz.

Not a great story. Not well ritten. Only the bare bonez idea uv a guy from the past saving the day in a world gon stoopid connects it to Idiocrasy.

It wuz orijinally published in 1951. Interesting that Kornbluth forsaw a future uv overpopulation and idiosy that far back. I gess he wuznt the first or only, but for wutever reazon hiz story wuz very influential.

Robocop also haz sum connecting elements. "I'd buy that for a dollar!" on a moronic TV show.

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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .

The Marching Morons story has a point: We are overclocked hairless apes who are simply not designed to think about or to willingly make significant sacrifices in service of a fuzzy, uncertain hazard that’s decades away. Why would anyone deny this? But unlike in the Marching Morons, it doesn’t necessarily follow that the smarter ape’s only solution is to either deliberately kill off most of the dumber apes or else nature haphazardly kills them. What is the third way?

The United States has reduced per-capita carbon emissions slightly more than Europe, and neither one has managed much reduction at all except when they’re forced to. Nearly all of the reduction since 2000 came during the five-year period when oil prices spiked and the Great Recession killed off economic activity.

In other words, it doesn’t seem as if either the Republican Party or America’s dysfunctional politics is really the problem. So what is? It must be something common to both Europe and the US, and the obvious answer is that we all live in democracies. Roughly speaking, our governments do what the public wants, and the public doesn’t have much interest in reducing carbon emissions. Oh, we say we do, and we’ll support minor things like ETS or CAFE that have a barely noticeable effect on us. We’ll support solar power — if it produces electricity nearly as cheaply as coal. We’ll all buy electric cars — but only when the price comes down and the batteries get better. We’ll check out the energy star rating the next time we buy a new refrigerator. And that’s about it.

A climate plan that requires significant sacrifice might work on planet Vulcan, but not on planet Earth. Assuming otherwise is nonserious. We need a plan that will work with only homo sapiens to carry it out, and that means a plan that takes into account human selfishness and shortsightedness. It means a plan that will appeal to China and India and Brazil and the rest of the world. It means a plan that will somehow reduce atmospheric carbon a lot even while most of us sit around fat, dumb, and happy.

The only such plan I can think of is one that increases global R&D spending on climate mitigation by, oh, 10x or so. Maybe 20x if it’s feasible. This money would be spent on developing new sources of clean energy and energy storage; reducing the price of current sources of clean energy; figuring out ways to remove carbon from the atmosphere; and pretty much anything else that seems remotely useful. The fruits of this research would be turned over to the private sector for free, and they would then compete to sell it all over the globe. This would harness human selfishness instead of fighting it. It’s not guaranteed to work, but unlike the Green New Deal and similar manifestos, at least it’s not guaranteed to fail.

More at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/02/heres-my-super-abridged-green-n
ew-deal
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, February 24, 2019 11:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

No - you articulation of a point is sh*t.



That's not even a sentence. Whatever that is, is shit. Care to try again?

Quote:

Your understanding of the rest of the world is sh*t too. Many of us have already said there may or may not be "collusion." We're not hanging on that. Certainly there was collusion of a kind, but is that kind prosecutable? Probably not. Obstruction though - he's got jail time coming as soon as he's not president. I don't know what Trump loyalists think collusion means. Maybe you can explain. Do you think we're expecting to find a check for his membership dues to Putin's Collusion Club? Do you even understand what it means to be an unwitting asset? I doubt it - prove me wrong. Use all of those iq points you think you have.


Bullshit. You've been towing that Russian line along with all the others in here for two years now. Just because the media is starting to backpedal because it looks like that's not going to happen, don't pretend that you weren't.

We've got two years of your posts in "The Countdown to Impeachment" thread to sift through. You'd better get to deleting all of your comments there if you're going to hide that fact.

And you're cute little "what did you expect us to find" bullshit line is exactly what the media has been saying since the backpedaling started. Way to show that you're not just a Lemming.

Quote:


Yep - I was traveling and beating a dead horse lost all it's appeal. My bad.



You were wrong. I proved you were wrong. You were also a great big Asshole about the whole thing too.

I don't care about your excuses. This is one of a long line of examples of you just disappearing from a thread when I hand your ass to you after you embarrass yourself by behaving like a child.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, February 24, 2019 12:47 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted:
https://phys.org/news/2010-06-humans-extinct-years-eminent-scientist.h
tml


https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/10/so-many-animals-will-go-extinct
-in-the-next-50-years-that-it-will-take-earth-at-least-3-million-years-to-recover
/

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jul/10/earths-sixth-mass-
extinction-event-already-underway-scientists-warn


https://medium.com/@Cliffhanger1983/the-collapse-of-civilization-manifesto-2039c6a5327

https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2017/09/21/mit-professor-predi
cts-earths-next-mass-extinction-to-begin-by-2100/#375f64a96e57

I was always impressed with that promise that 1/3 of the world's population would be dead from AIDS or HIV by the year 1990. None of the circumstances changed by then, either. There was still no cure for either, there has still never been proof that AIDS exists, and the same people who have been dying from the same problems for centuries were obtaining the problems.

You should believe everything your scientist tells you, without question, verification, critique, or scientific method or thought.

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Sunday, February 24, 2019 12:57 PM

REAVERFAN


It is absolutely time to panic about climate change
Author David Wallace-Wells on the dystopian hellscape that awaits us.
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/2/22/18188562/climate-
change-david-wallace-wells-the-uninhabitable-earth



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Sunday, February 24, 2019 12:58 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I was always impressed with that promise that 1/3 of the world's population would be dead from AIDS or HIV by the year 1990. None of the circumstances changed by then, either. There was still no cure for either, there has still never been proof that AIDS exists, and the same people who have been dying from the same problems for centuries were obtaining the problems.

You should believe everything your scientist tells you, without question, verification, critique, or scientific method or thought.

Spoken like a true Russian troll.

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Sunday, February 24, 2019 2:46 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by GEEBERS:
I don't know what Trump loyalists think collusion means.

I don't know what Trump loyalists think collusion means, either. This is what I think it means.
Quote:

col·lu·sion
Dictionary result for collusion
/k?'lo?oZH?n/
noun
noun: collusion
secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
"the armed forces were working in collusion with drug traffickers"
synonyms: conspiracy, connivance, complicity, intrigue, plotting, secret understanding, collaboration, scheming

Quote:

Originally posted by GEEBERS:
Do you even understand what it means to be an unwitting asset?

And being an unwitting asset? isn't in the definition.


tic tac

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Sunday, February 24, 2019 4:06 PM

REAVERFAN


Carbon Emissions Are Now 10x Higher Than When The Arctic Had Crocodiles And Palm Trees
https://www.sciencealert.com/carbon-emissions-today-are-vastly-worse-t
han-earth-s-last-warming-event



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Sunday, February 24, 2019 5:06 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

No - you articulation of a point is sh*t.



That's not even a sentence. Whatever that is, is shit. Care to try again?

Quote:

Your understanding of the rest of the world is sh*t too. Many of us have already said there may or may not be "collusion." We're not hanging on that. Certainly there was collusion of a kind, but is that kind prosecutable? Probably not. Obstruction though - he's got jail time coming as soon as he's not president. I don't know what Trump loyalists think collusion means. Maybe you can explain. Do you think we're expecting to find a check for his membership dues to Putin's Collusion Club? Do you even understand what it means to be an unwitting asset? I doubt it - prove me wrong. Use all of those iq points you think you have.


Bullshit. You've been towing that Russian line along with all the others in here for two years now. Just because the media is starting to backpedal because it looks like that's not going to happen, don't pretend that you weren't.

We've got two years of your posts in "The Countdown to Impeachment" thread to sift through. You'd better get to deleting all of your comments there if you're going to hide that fact.

And you're cute little "what did you expect us to find" bullshit line is exactly what the media has been saying since the backpedaling started. Way to show that you're not just a Lemming.

Quote:


Yep - I was traveling and beating a dead horse lost all it's appeal. My bad.



You were wrong. I proved you were wrong. You were also a great big Asshole about the whole thing too.

I don't care about your excuses. This is one of a long line of examples of you just disappearing from a thread when I hand your ass to you after you embarrass yourself by behaving like a child.




Bull shit on bull shit inside of bull shit. I don't disappear, I give up. There's no point. Like I already told you, I've seen too many people try and school you and get no where. Years even. I should have just kept ignoring you like I did during your bad times. That's the only think I got wrong.

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Sunday, February 24, 2019 6:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Actually, you DO disappear when proven wrong.

And if jack put in the effort to quote and link even a few of those times, and proved you wrong - again - you'd disappear in a heartbeat - again. Like you always do.




tic tac

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Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Actually, you DO disappear when proven wrong.

And if jack put in the effort to quote and link even a few of those times, and proved you wrong - again - you'd disappear in a heartbeat - again. Like you always do.




tic tac




Another good story ruined by an eye witness.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 25, 2019 11:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK




Stay classy, Dianne.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 25, 2019 11:23 AM

REAVERFAN


Trump administration to create panel to deny climate change facts almost all scientists agree on

‘This is like assembling a panel of gravity sceptics who insist it’s safe to jump off tall buildings,’ says Nasa scientist
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-cl
imate-change-global-warming-panel-william-happer-white-house-a8795466.html?utm_source=reddit.com


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Monday, February 25, 2019 12:10 PM

REAVERFAN


The Ocean Is Running Out of Breath, Scientists Warn

Widespread and sometimes drastic marine oxygen declines are stressing sensitive species—a trend that will continue with climate change
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-ocean-is-running-out-of
-breath-scientists-warn
/

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Monday, February 25, 2019 12:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Trump administration to create panel to deny climate change facts almost all scientists agree on

‘This is like assembling a panel of gravity sceptics who insist it’s safe to jump off tall buildings,’ says Nasa scientist
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-cl
imate-change-global-warming-panel-william-happer-white-house-a8795466.html?utm_source=reddit.com




What does that matter? Democrats aren't going to do anything about it either. See Feinstein video above.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 25, 2019 3:33 PM

REAVERFAN


Evidence for man-made global warming hits 'gold standard': scientists
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-temperatures/evidence
-for-man-made-global-warming-hits-gold-standard-scientists-idUSKCN1QE1ZU?utm_source=reddit.com


“Humanity cannot afford to ignore such clear signals,” the U.S.-led team wrote in the journal Nature Climate Change of satellite measurements of rising temperatures over the past 40 years.

They said confidence that human activities were raising the heat at the Earth’s surface had reached a “five-sigma” level, a statistical gauge meaning there is only a one-in-a-million chance that the signal would appear if there was no warming.

Such a “gold standard” was applied in 2012, for instance, to confirm the discovery of the Higgs boson subatomic particle, a basic building block of the universe.

Benjamin Santer, lead author of Monday’s study at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, said he hoped the findings would win over skeptics and spur action.

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Monday, February 25, 2019 3:33 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


New findings reported February 25, 2019 in the journal Nature Geoscience make the case that the effects of cloud loss are dramatic enough to explain ancient warming episodes like the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum — and to precipitate future disaster.

Climate physicists at the California Institute of Technology performed a state-of-the-art simulation of stratocumulus clouds, the low-lying, blankety kind that have by far the largest cooling effect on the planet. The simulation revealed a tipping point: a level of warming at which stratocumulus clouds break up altogether. The disappearance occurs when the concentration of CO2 in the simulated atmosphere reaches 1,200 parts per million — a level that fossil fuel burning could push us past in about a century, under “business-as-usual” emissions scenarios. (Global average atmospheric carbon dioxide in 2017 was 405.0 parts per million (ppm for short), with a range of uncertainty of plus or minus 0.1 ppm.)

In the simulation, when the tipping point is breached, Earth’s temperature soars 8 degrees Celsius, in addition to the 4 degrees of warming or more caused by the CO2 directly.

Once clouds go away, the simulated climate “goes over a cliff,” said Kerry Emanuel, a climate scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. A leading authority on atmospheric physics, Emanuel called the new findings “very plausible,” though, as he noted, scientists must now make an effort to independently replicate the work.

To imagine 12 degrees of warming, think of crocodiles swimming in the Arctic and of the scorched, mostly lifeless equatorial regions during the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum.

More at www.quantamagazine.org/cloud-loss-could-add-8-degrees-to-global-warmin
g-20190225
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, February 25, 2019 8:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


The theoretical basis for global warming was published in the late 1800's. But for the sake of argument, the first instance where global warming might be considered to have been brought to public attention was in 1998. Since then we've had Bill Clinton, GW Bush, and Obama each serve 2 terms as president, and the US hasn't made a dent in its outsized per capita contribution in all that time.

This is a US problem, not a party problem.

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Monday, February 25, 2019 9:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
The theoretical basis for global warming was published in the late 1800's. But for the sake of argument, the first instance where global warming might be considered to have been brought to public attention was in 1998. Since then we've had Bill Clinton, GW Bush, and Obama each serve 2 terms as president, and the US hasn't made a dent in its outsized per capita contribution in all that time.

This is a US problem, not a party problem.




It might not have been mentioned much in the mainstream news sources, but at least in my experience it had been talked about earlier than that.

I grew up in the Chicago suburb public school system. We had a publication in grade school called The Weekly Reader that gave us information about things that were happening in the world. I have vivid memories of stories published in there that were about global warming, and more specifically the holes in the Ozone layer that we had been causing.

I also remember in one of the articles, scientists saying that if the average global temperature went down one degree that it would cause an ice age, but if it went up one single degree that all of the ice caps would melt. I don't know how true that actually is, but I remember that it scared the crap out of me when I read it.

These articles would have predated 1998 by quite a bit. I was already out of High School at that point. I'd say I was reading about this stuff in class as early as 1986 or so.



.......

Shame... I can't seem to find anything on Google in the way of an archive of old weekly readers. If anybody could find them, please post the links.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, February 25, 2019 10:12 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I know you have no idea what I'm talking about. It's like trying to teach physics to a kindergartner.



BAAAH HAA HA. Okay, there's enough irony for me today.


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Monday, February 25, 2019 10:19 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I don't disappear, I give up. There's no point.



Amen. I keep hoping for somewhere to go for intelligent discussions. Don't think they exist on the planet anymore, though.

Wish I knew enough about computers to start my own events discussion site.

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Monday, February 25, 2019 10:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I don't disappear, I give up. There's no point.



Amen. I keep hoping for somewhere to go for intelligent discussions. Don't think they exist on the planet anymore, though.

Wish I knew enough about computers to start my own events discussion site.



Yeah. It's a shame that you grew up in Nilbog, IN and have an IQ of 30.

The internet was a much better place when people of your caliber weren't able to get online. It's a shame that people like me had to go and dumb everything down to the point that people like you can use it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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