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Tuesday, April 23, 2019 2:28 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Anybody who claims that Assange was the conduit for material hacked by "Russians" without ever having either (1)examined the server from which they were copied or (2) interviewing Assange and Craig Murry has NO credible evidence on which to base that allegation.

Signym, we all have seen you run this same play many times. You are a Russian troll. (If you are not, I am sorry . . . that you are crazy.) Everybody knows you are lying. Please sue me so that your true identity is revealed. You promised to sue me.

As a reminder to those who might believe Signym, there was an indictment of 12 Russian military intelligence officials in connection with the 2016 election hacks and the resulting distribution of purloined emails. This was because of the investigation over which the president of the United States fired James Comey as FBI director. This is the investigation Comey confirmed on March 20, 2017, when he told Congress, “I have been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.”

This was also the investigation that multiple Republican controlled congressional committees have spent more than a year seeking to discredit—most recently Thursday, when two House panels hauled the former deputy assistant director of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Department, Peter Strzok, a career FBI agent who worked on the Russia probe, up to Capitol Hill for 10 hours of public, televised, abusive conspiracy theorizing. When the president of the United States derides the Mueller investigation as a “witch hunt,” and when congressional Republicans scream at FBI agents, this is the investigation they are trying to harass out of existence.

It is, therefore, fitting that this indictment of 12 Russian military intelligence officials comes less than one day after the astonishing display House Republicans put on in the Strzok hearing. If Mueller had been trying to remind the public of what the investigation is really about and what the stakes are in it, if he had been trying to make a public statement in response to the Strzok hearing, he could not have timed this action better.

You can read the indictment here:
www.lawfareblog.com/russia-indictment-20-what-make-muellers-hacking-in
dictment


The actual indictment contradicts all the Fake Experts that Signym wants to sell to you as authentic experts. The Signym's Fake Experts just made up a story for computer dummies & internet ignoramuses to believe is true.


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Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Were Julian Assange and Craig Murray, both with first hand knowledge of who provided the files, ever interviewed by USA investigators from any office?

Yes or no?

Were the DNC's computers ever examined by the FBI, or ever in the BFI's possession?

Yes or no?

There was an indictment, but the evidence was provided by "Crowdstrike". And who is "Crowdstrike"? "Crowdstrike" was a private computer security firm. And who was Crowstrike contracted by?

The DNC.

No conflict of interest there, no siree!!!

*****
I'm sure there is nobody in the administration who will look into this particular miscarriage of justice because nobody is interested in defending Julian Assnge, and for sure the Rssians aren't going to present themselves in American court (altho one of the Russian firms HAS showed up to defend itself).

Therefore, this "indictment" will never be tested in court, and is extremely safe to mamake in order to gain political points. So as they say, you can indict a ham sandwich, which is pretty much what happened here.


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Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:08 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Anybody who claims that Assange was the conduit for material hacked by "Russians" without ever having either (1)examined the server from which they were copied or (2) interviewing Assange and Craig Murry has NO credible evidence on which to base that allegation.

Furthermore, the metadata attached to those files (transfer rates, "last modified" timestamps which are always even which is FAT format) both show that the files were transferred to a USB stick and not "hacked" over the internet or emailed https://jamesfetzer.org/2019/03/bill-binney-and-larry-johnson-how-we-k
now-the-dnc-was-not-hacked-by-the-russians
/)
I find it preposterous that anyone would buy into this crock of shit without ever going into the actual evidence, but instead rely on the word of people whose job it is to lie.

www.lawfareblog.com/russia-indictment-20-what-make-muellers-hacking-in
dictment


The 12 Russian names from Mueller’s indictment

1) Viktor Borisovich Netyksho,
2) Boris Alekseyevich Antonov,
3) Dmitriy Sergeyevich Badin,
4) Ivan Sergeyevich Yermakov,
5) Aleksey Viktorovich Lukashev,
6) Sergey Aleksandrovich Morgachev,
7) Nikolay Yuryevich Kozachek,
8) Pavel Vyacheslavovich Yershov,
9) Artem Andreyevich Malyshev,
10) Aleksandr Vladimirovich Osadchuk,
11) Aleksey Aleksandrovich Potemkin, and
12) Anatoliy Sergeyevich Kovalev

2. Defendants were GRU officers who knowingly and intentionally conspired with each other, and with persons known and unknown to the Grand Jury (collectively the “Conspirators”), to gain unauthorized access (to “hack”) into the computers of U.S. persons and entities involved in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, steal documents from these computers, and stage releases of the stolen documents to interfere with the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

3. Starting in at least March 2016, the Conspirators used a variety of means to hack the email accounts of Volunteers and employees of the U.S. presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton (the “Clinton Campaign”), including the email account of the Clinton Campaign’s chairman.

4. By in or around April 2016, the Conspirators also hacked into the computer networks of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic National Committee. The Conspirators covertly monitored the computers of dozens of and DNC employees, implanted hundreds of files containing malicious computer code (“malware”), and stole emails and other documents from the DCCC and DNC.

More at www.lawfareblog.com/russia-indictment-20-what-make-muellers-hacking-in
dictment


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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Were Julian Assange and Craig Murray, both with first hand knowledge of who provided the files, ever interviewed by USA investigators from any office?

Yes or no?

Were the DNC's computers ever examined by the FBI, or ever in the BFI's possession?

Yes or no?

There was an indictment, but the evidence was provided by "Crowdstrike". And who is "Crowdstrike"? "Crowdstrike" was a private computer security firm. And who was Crowstrike contracted by?

The DNC.

No conflict of interest there, no siree!!!

*****
I'm sure there is nobody in the administration who will look into this particular miscarriage of justice because nobody is interested in defending Julian Assnge, and for sure the Rssians aren't going to present themselves in American court (altho one of the Russian firms HAS showed up to defend itself).

Therefore, this "indictment" will never be tested in court, and is extremely safe to mamake in order to gain political points. So as they say, you can indict a ham sandwich, which is pretty much what happened here.

The answer to each of your questions is Fuck You, Signym. Keep that in mind as you ask an endless series of questions anonymously from inside Russia. Or you could sue me as promised and then we'd know where you are from and more about your true motives for stalling, delaying, misdirecting, lying. Who knows? You could actually be a Crazy American like Alex Jones of Infowars. He had your "Experts" on hacking appearing on his show.

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Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:14 PM

SIGNYM

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The answer to each of your questions is Fuck You, Signym- SLOPPYSECONDS
I think YOUR answer tells me that you don't like the obvious/ factual/ truthful answers to the questions that I asked.


You think these people are guilty because the deep state tells you so? The same deep state that brags about lying, cheating, and stealing? The same deep state that told you that Trump was a Russian puppet? The same deep state that showed fake photos of sick children and dead ducks to Trump and blamed the Russians for poisoning them?

There's something missing from the indictment, and that's EVIDENCE. Apparently, you don't know what constitutes EVIDENCE, which is why you'll be fooled over and over and over again.

It's too bad that you seem incapable of applying your business acument to parsing the political world. If you invested like you behave politically, you'd be desititute. If you thought about politics like you invest, you'd be smart man.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You think these people are gulty because the deep state tells you so? The same deep state that told you that Trump was a Russian puppet? The same deep state that showed fake photos of sick children and dead ducks and blamed the Russians for poisoning them?

There's something missing from the indictment, and that's EVIENCE. Apparently, you don't know what constitutes EVIDENCE, which is why you'll be fooled over and over and over again.

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America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

There is no Deep State. But there certainly are many conspiracy theorists making claims about the Deep State without backing those up with anything more than their mouths and their keyboards. You'd think that at least one of the conspiracy theorists would buy a gun and shoot somebody in the Deep State, since it is "evil" then bring the corpse forward as evidence. Never happens. All we ever get is ever more words piled upon words.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_the_United_States

Trump and Steve Bannon, his former chief strategist, have both made allegations about a deep state which they believe is interfering with the president's agenda. In 2018, describing the deep state as an "entrenched bureaucracy", Trump accused the United States Department of Justice "of being part of the 'deep state'" in a statement advocating the prosecution of Huma Abedin. Some Trump allies and right-wing media outlets have alleged that former president Barack Obama is coordinating a deep state resistance to Trump. While the belief in a deep state is popular among Trump supporters, critics maintain that it has no basis in reality, arguing that the sources of the leaks frustrating the Trump administration lack the organizational depth of deep states in other countries, and that use of the term in the U.S. could undermine confidence in vital institutions and be used to justify suppressing dissent.

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Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And I think your attempt to drag the discussion off into whether the deep state exists or not is yet another attempt to avoid acknowledging the questions, let alone anwering them

Were Julian Assnge and Craig Muray, both of whom claim first-hand knowldege of who supplied the files, ever interviewed by any investigator from any office of the USA?

Yes or no?

Were the DNC computers ever examined by the FBI, or ever even in the FBI's possession?

Yes or no?

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www.wired.com/story/mueller-report-donald-trump-useful-idiot/

“We’ve reached a point in the Mueller probe where there are only two scenarios left,” I wrote at the time. “Either the president is compromised by the Russian government and has been working covertly to cooperate with Vladimir Putin after Russia helped win him the 2016 election — or Trump will go down in history as the world’s most famous ‘useful idiot,’ as communists used to call those who could be co-opted to the cause without realizing it. At least the former scenario — that the president of the United States is actively working to advance the interests of our country’s foremost, long-standing, traditional foreign adversary — would make him seem smarter and wilier. The latter scenario is simply a tragic farce for everyone involved.”

Last Thursday’s report made clear which answer we face: tragic farce.

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Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:09 PM

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What do I care what some idiot blathers, SLOPPY?

I see you're still avoiding the questions. You must really hate the answers.

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Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Were Julian Assnge and Craig Muray, both of whem claim first-hand knowldege of who supplied the files, ever interviewed by any investigator from any office of the USA?



I have questions too:

How would the FBI interview Julian Assnge [sic]?

Who the f*ck would trust what he says?

Who the heck is Craig Muray? nm

How would you know if the DNC computers ever examined by the FBI, or ever even in the FBI's possession?

From SIGGY'S It Reallly Makes No Sense Department:
Why would the IMF give Ecuador that much money for Assange? They could have bought him much cheaper. It's Ecuador!

More to the point, just as second says, we all recognize your deflection BS. Right after I post from Mueller's report about just how extensive the Russian Hacking was, you pop in and lay down a misdirection nothing Assange burger. More important than who stole the emails was that only 2 hours after the Access Hollywood "Pussy" tape came out, someone released the stolen emails. Why would the Evil Deep State do that and take the heat off Trump? Your logic is, as usual, Deeply Stupid.

Aren't you amazed at how extensive the Russian Hacking was? At just how many Russians were involved and at so many levels of the Russian Government? I dunno, if I went to that much trouble for someone and was that effective, I sure would want something in return, don't you think?

Cue insults in 3... 2... 1...

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Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:58 PM

SIGNYM

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1) They could have arranged to interview him in the Ecuadorian Embassy, just like Sweden did.

2) Do you really think the FBI operates on trust? If they did, they would NEVER interview suspects. That's stupid question, GSTRING.

3) Who is Craig Murray? How can you be so ignorant? Craig Murray, former UK Ambassador, claims to have met the source of the files personally in a park near Washington University and transmitted them, in person, to Julian Assange. ANYONE with that claim should have been interviewed by any number of investigative agencies, whether they believed him or not. https://theduran.com/clinton-leaks-given-craig-murray-washington-insid
er-clandestine-meeting-former-british-ambassador-claims
/
So, why not?

4) How do I know the FBI never examined the DNC computers? Because the DNC said so https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/312767-fbi-never-examined
-hacked-dnc-servers-report
and Comey said so https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/313555-comey-fbi-did-requ
est-access-to-hacked-dnc-servers


5) Why would the IMF greenlight a $4.2 billion loan? Because time was of the essence (necessary to get Assange in custody before the Mueller report came out) and the Ecuadorian President drove a hard bargain?

From your posts we all recognize your deflection bullshit.

Also, your astonishingly abysmal ignorance of events. Important facts that cross you narrative are to be denied. Given your apparent cluelessness, why should anyone give the slightest credit to your thoughts on this topic?


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Tuesday, April 23, 2019 6:51 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, to make this pellucidly clear, I don't think the intelligence agencies have even established the FACT of "hacking". And if that hasn't been established, how can you make a list of suspects?

I think Mueller indicted a ham sandwich in this case.

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Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:57 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:


From SIGGY'S It Reallly Makes No Sense Department:




Department? Whole damn building...

I keep thinking I could write a book on the sheer masochism of coming here and dealing with these loons. Maybe I just like being mind-boggled??
No, there's stupid out there and IT MUST BE FIXED.

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Wednesday, April 24, 2019 3:01 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, TWITCHY, you seem so certain that you know how things happened. And it's been a while since I looked deeply into that whole "DNC-hacking" thing, so maybe you can tell me, step by step, the evidence that shows that the server was "hacked" by Russia.

Or maybe not.


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Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, TWITCHY, you seem so certain that you know how things happened. And it's been a while since I looked deeply into that whole "DNC-hacking" thing, so maybe you can tell me, step by step, the evidence that shows that the server was "hacked" by Russia.

Or maybe not.

Signym, everybody is familiar with you. Nobody will play your game using your rules.

The growing partnership between Russia's government and cybercriminals

An Obama administration national security official tells 60 Minutes, "Increasingly, you cannot tell which is which when it comes to the criminal and the intelligence agency."
www.cbsnews.com/news/evgeniy-mikhailovich-bogachev-the-growing-partner
ship-between-russia-government-and-cybercriminals-60-minutes
/

Russia’s meddling in the United States’ elections is not a hoax. It’s the culmination of Moscow’s decades-long campaign to tear the West apart. “Operation InfeKtion” reveals the ways in which one of the Soviets’ central tactics — the promulgation of lies about America — continues today, from Pizzagate to George Soros conspiracies. Meet the KGB spies who conceived this virus and the American truth squads who tried — and are still trying — to fight it. Countries from Pakistan to Brazil are now debating reality, and in Vladimir Putin’s greatest triumph, Americans are using Russia’s playbook against one another without the faintest clue.
www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/opinion/russia-meddling-disinformation-fake
-news-elections.html






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Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
blah blah blah... the nonsense I post to deflect from Russian Hacking... most of which is sh*t I can't possibly know... Daddy said I was the prettiest...



fify

See: Firehose of Falsehood


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Wednesday, April 24, 2019 11:00 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

I keep thinking I could write a book on the sheer masochism of coming here and dealing with these loons. Maybe I just like being mind-boggled??
No, there's stupid out there and IT MUST BE FIXED.



Ha! So much of it is inexplicable - maybe the puzzle solving parts of our brain just can't resist? Looking forward to a long, forced break coming up, yeah. Ahhh... serenity!

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‘This is risky’: Trump’s thirst for Mueller revenge could land him in trouble

Trump’s bellicose tweets and public statements in the last few days are potentially exposing Trump to fresh charges of witness intimidation, obstruction of justice and impeding a congressional investigation — not to mention giving lawmakers more fodder for their presidential probes.

“This is risky,” said William Jeffress, a prominent Washington defense attorney who represented President Richard Nixon after he left the White House. “I find it surprising because he’s taking these shots at witnesses who gave information to Mueller, and I think he’s got to be careful because there’s an explicit federal statute punishing retaliation against witnesses.”

www.politico.com/story/2019/04/24/mueller-report-trump-evidence-128879
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Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:


Ha! So much of it is inexplicable - maybe the puzzle solving parts of our brain just can't resist? Looking forward to a long, forced break coming up, yeah. Ahhh... serenity!



Thanks for the heads up. Enjoy the hell out of it.

#vanlife #waitingonaJunebugoutourselves

#RUN!

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Wednesday, April 24, 2019 1:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Ha! So much of it is inexplicable - maybe the puzzle solving parts of our brain just can't resist? Looking forward to a long, forced break coming up, yeah. Ahhh... serenity!



Thanks for the heads up. Enjoy the hell out of it.

#vanlife #waitingonaJunebugoutourselves

#RUN!



#vanlife is great! Van and bus conversion videos are like crack for me.

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In the months before Kirstjen Nielsen was forced to resign, she tried to focus the White House on one of her highest priorities as homeland security secretary: preparing for new and different Russian forms of interference in the 2020 election.

President Trump’s chief of staff told her not to bring it up in front of the president.

Ms. Nielsen left the Department of Homeland Security early this month after a tumultuous 16-month tenure and tensions with the White House. Officials said she had become increasingly concerned about Russia’s continued activity in the United States during and after the 2018 midterm elections — ranging from its search for new techniques to divide Americans using social media, to experiments by hackers, to rerouting internet traffic and infiltrating power grids.

But in a meeting this year, Mick Mulvaney, the White House chief of staff, made it clear that Mr. Trump still equated any public discussion of malign Russian election activity with questions about the legitimacy of his victory. According to one senior administration official, Mr. Mulvaney said it “wasn’t a great subject and should be kept below his level.”

Even though the Department of Homeland Security has primary responsibility for civilian cyberdefense, Ms. Nielsen eventually gave up on her effort to organize a White House meeting of cabinet secretaries to coordinate a strategy to protect next year’s elections.

As a result, the issue did not gain the urgency or widespread attention that a president can command. And it meant that many Americans remain unaware of the latest versions of Russian interference.

https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2019/04/24/official-efforts-to-raise-
alarm-about-russian-threat-to-2020-elections-stymied-by-trump
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Friday, April 26, 2019 1:19 AM

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This article details how Mueller buried the information that the Trump campiagn was targeted by three separate intelligence assets to try an entrap Trump

Quote:

Authored by Larry Johnson via Sic Temper Tyrannis blog,

While President Trump is correct to celebrate the Mueller Report’s conclusion that no one on Trump’s side of the ledger attempted to or succeeded in collaborating or colluding with the Russian Government or Russian spies, there remains a dark cloud behind the silver lining. And I am not referring to the claims of alleged obstruction of justice. A careful reading of the report reveals that Mueller has issued findings that are both disingenuous and dishonest. The report is a failed hatchet job. Part of the failure can be attributed to the amount of material that Attorney General Barr allowed to be released. It appears that Bill Barr's light editing may have been intended to expose the bias and sloppiness of Mueller and his team.

Let us start with the case of trying to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. If you were to believe that the Steele Dossier accurately reported Vladimir Putin's attitude towards Trump, then a Trump real estate deal in Moscow was a slam dunk. According to one of Steele's breathless reports:

The Kremlin's cultivation operation on TRUMP also had comprised offering him various lucrative real estate development business deals in Russia, especially in relation to the ongoing 2018 World Cup soccer tournament. How ever, so far, for reasons unknown, TRUMP had not taken up any of these.

Then there is reality. The impetus, the encouragement for the Moscow project came from one man--Felix Sater.

In the late summer of2015, the Trump Organization received a new inquiry about pursuing a Trump Tower project in Moscow. In approximately September 2015, Felix Sater . . . contacted Cohen on behalf of I.C. Expert Investment Company (I.C. Expert), a Russian real-estate development corporation controlled by Andrei Vladimirovich Rozov.J07 Sater had known Rozov since approximately 2007 and, in 2014, had served as an agent on behalf of Rozov during Rozov's purchase of a building in New York City.30S Sater later contacted Rozov and proposed that I.C. Expert pursue a Trump Tower Moscow project in which I.C. Expert would license the name and brand from the Trump Organization but construct the building on its own. Sater worked on the deal with Rozov and another employee of I.C. Expert. (see page 69 of the Mueller Report).

To reiterate--if the Steele Dossier was based on truthful intelligence then the Trump organization only had to sit back, stretch out their hands and seize the moment. Instead, little Felix Sater keeps coming back to the well. In January 2016, according to the Mueller report.

Sater then sent a draft invitation for Cohen to visit Moscow to discuss the Trump Moscow project,along with a note to "[t]ell me if the letter is good as amended by me or make whatever changes you want and send it back to me."

After a further round of edits, on January 25, 2016, Sater sent Cohen an invitation- signed by Andrey Ryabinskiy of the company MHJ-to travel to"Moscow for a working visit" about the "prospects of development and the construction business in Russia," "the various land plots available suited for construction of this enormous Tower," and "the opportunity to co-ordinate a follow up visit to Moscow by Mr. Donald Trump.


This produced nothing. No deal, no trip. But Sater persisted:

Beginning in late 2015, Sater repeatedly tried to arrange for Cohen and candidate Trump, as representatives of the Trump Organization, to travel to Russia to meet with Russian government officials and possible financing partners. . . .

Into the spring of 2016, Sater and Cohen continued to discuss a trip to Moscow in connection with the Trump Moscow project. On April 20, 2016, Sater wrote Cohen, " [t)he People wanted to know when you are coming?,,

On May 4, 2016, Sater followed up:

“I had a chat with Moscow. ASSUMING the trip does happen the question is before or after the convention. I said I believe, but don't know for sure, that's it's probably after the convention. Obviously the pre-meeting trip (you only) can happen anytime you want but he 2 big guys where [sic) the question. I said I would confirm and revert.”

On May 5, 2016, Sater wrote to Cohen:

“Peskov would like to invite you as his guest to the St. Petersburg Forum which is Russia's Davos it's June 16-19. He wants to meet there with you and possibly introduce you to either Putin or Medvedev, as they are not sure if 1 or both will be there. This is perfect. The entire business class of Russia will be there as well.”

On June 14, 2016, Cohen met Sater in the lobby of the Trump Tower in New York and informed him that he would not be traveling at that time


Why was Felix Sater the one repeatedly identified pushing to arrange deals with the Russians and yet did not face any subsequent charges by the Mueller team? Sater had been working as part of the Trump team since 2003. Why is it that the proposed deals and travel to Moscow came predominantly from Felix Sater? As I noted in my previous piece--The FBI Tried and Failed to Entrap Trump--Sater was an active FBI undercover informant. He had been working with the FBI since 1998. When he agreed to start working as an undercover informant aka cooperator in December 1998 guess who signed off on the deal? Andrew Weissman. You can see the deal here. It was signed 10 December 1998.

An honest prosecutor would have and should have disclosed this fact. He, Sater, was the one encouraging the Trump team to cozy up to Russia. Mueller does not disclose one single instance of Trump or Cohen or any of the Trump kids calling Sater on the carpet and chewing his ass for not bringing them deals and not opening doors in Russia. Omitting this key fact goes beyond simple disingenuity. It is a conscious lie.

The circumstantial evidence indicates that Sater was doing this at the behest of FBI handlers. We do not yet know who they are.

But Sater's behavior and status as an FBI Informant was not an isolated incident. We also have the case of Michael Caputo and Roger Stone being approached by a Russian gangster named Henry Greenberg. According to democratdossier.com:

Greenberg's birth name is Gennady Vasilievich Vostretsov, the son of Yekatrina Vostretsova and Vasliy Vostretsov. He later adopted new names twice as a result of two different marriages and became Gennady V. Arzhanik and later Henry Oknyansky. Henry Greenberg is not a legal alias, but he uses it quite commonly in recent years.

But you would not know this from reading the Mueller report. Mr. Disingenuous strikes again:

In the spring of 2016, Trump Campaign advisor Michael Caputo learned through a Florida-based Russian business partner that another Florida-based Russian, Henry Oknyansky (who also went by the name Henry Greenberg), claimed to have information pertaining to Hillary Clinton . Caputo notified Roger Stone and brokered communication between Stone and Oknyansky.

Oknyansky and Stone set up a May 2016 in-person meeting.260 Oknyansky was accompanied to the meeting by Alexei Rasin, a Ukrainian associate involved in Florida real estate. At the meeting, Rasin offered to sell Stone derogatory information on Clinton that Rasin claimed to have obtained while working for Clinton. Rasin claimed to possess financial statements demonstrating Clinton's involvement in money laundering with Rasin's companies. According to Oknyansky, Stone asked if the amounts in question totaled millions of dollars but was told it was closer to hundreds of thousands. Stone refused the offer, stating that Trump would not pay for opposition research.


How does a guy like Vorkretsov/Greenberg, with an extensive criminal record and circumstantial ties to the Russian mob gain entrance into the United States? Very simple answer. He too was an FBI informant:

In an affidavit, Vostretsov explained to an immigration judge he worked for the FBI for 17 years throughout the world, including in the US, Iran and North Korea. He explained in the same paperwork the FBI granted him several temporary visas to visit the US in exchange for information about criminal activities.

Please take time to read the full dossier at democrat dossier.

This is more than an odd coincidence. This is a pattern. The FBI was targeting the Trump campaign and personnel in a deliberate effort to implicate them in wanting to work with Russians.

And there is more. George Papodopoulus was entrapped by individuals linked to British MI-6 and the CIA with offers to provide meetings with Russians and Putin. The Mueller account is a lie:

In late April 2016, Papadopoulos was told by London-based professor Joseph Mifsud, immediately after Mifsud 's return from a trip to Moscow, that the Russian government had obtained "dirt" on candidate Clinton in the form of thousands of emails. One week later, on May 6, 2016, Papadopoulos suggested to a representative of a foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information that would be damaging to candidate Clinton.

Papadopoulos shared information about Russian "dirt " with people outside of the Campaign, and the Office investigated whether he also provided it to a Campaign official. Papadopoulos and the Campaign officials with whom he interacted told the Office that they did · not recall that Papadopoulos passed them the information. Throughout the relevant period of time and for several months thereafter, Papadopoulos worked with Mifsud and two Russian nationals to arrange a meeting between the Campaign and the Russian government. That meeting never came to pass.


Once again, the Mueller team treats the provocateur--i.e., Joseph Mifsud--as some simple guy with ties to Russia's political elites. Another egregious lie. Mifsud was not working on behalf of Russia. He was deployed by MI-6. Disobedient Media has been on the forefront of exposing Mifsud's ties to western intelligence in general and the Brits in particular.

Mifsud’s alleged links to Russian intelligence are summarily debunked by his close working relationship with Claire Smith, a major figure in the upper echelons of British intelligence. A number of Twitter users recently observed that Joseph Mifsud had been photographed standing next to Claire Smith of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee at Mifsud’s LINK campus in Rome. Newsmax and Buzzfeed later reported that the professor’s name and biography had been removed from the campus’ website, writing that the mysterious removal took place after Mifsud had served the institution for “years.”

WikiLeaks Editor-in-Chief Julian Assange likewise noted the connection between Mifsud and Smith in a Twitter thread, additionally pointing out his connections with Saudi intelligence: “[Mifsud] and Claire Smith of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee and eight-year member of the UK Security Vetting panel both trained Italian security services at the Link University in Rome and appear to both be present in this [photo].”

The photograph in question originated on Geodiplomatics.com, where it specified that Joseph Mifsud is indeed standing next to Claire Smith, who was attending a: “…Training program on International Security which was organised by Link Campus University and London Academy of Diplomacy.” The event is listed as taking place in October, 2012. This is highly significant for a number of reasons.


This is not a mere matter of Mueller and his team "failing" to disclose some important facts. If they were operating honestly they should have investigated Mifsud, Greenberg and Sater. But they did not. Two of the three--Sater and Greenber--alleged Russian stooges have ties to the FBI. And Mifsud has been living and working in the belly of the intelligence community.

When you put these facts together it is clear that there is real meat on the bone for Barr's upcoming investigation of the "spying" that was being done on the Trump campaign by law enforcement and intelligence.
These facts must become a part of the public consciousness. The foreign country that worked feverishly to meddle in the 2016 Presidential election and the subsequent rule of Donald Trump is the United Kingdom. Russia is the patsy.



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
This article details how Mueller buried the information that the Trump campiagn was targeted by three separate intelligence assets to try an entrap Trump

Quote:

Authored by Larry Johnson via Sic Temper Tyrannis blog,

While President Trump is correct to celebrate the Mueller Report’s conclusion that no one on Trump’s side of the ledger attempted to or succeeded in collaborating or colluding with the Russian Government or Russian spies, there remains a dark cloud behind the silver lining. And I am not referring to the claims of alleged obstruction of justice. A careful reading of the report reveals that Mueller has issued findings that are both disingenuous and dishonest. The report is a failed hatchet job. Part of the failure can be attributed to the amount of material that Attorney General Barr allowed to be released. It appears that Bill Barr's light editing may have been intended to expose the bias and sloppiness of Mueller and his team.

Let us start with the case of trying to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. If you were to believe that the Steele Dossier accurately reported Vladimir Putin's attitude towards Trump, then a Trump real estate deal in Moscow was a slam dunk. According to one of Steele's breathless reports:

The Kremlin's cultivation operation on TRUMP also had comprised offering him various lucrative real estate development business deals in Russia, especially in relation to the ongoing 2018 World Cup soccer tournament. How ever, so far, for reasons unknown, TRUMP had not taken up any of these.

Then there is reality. The impetus, the encouragement for the Moscow project came from one man--Felix Sater.

In the late summer of2015, the Trump Organization received a new inquiry about pursuing a Trump Tower project in Moscow. In approximately September 2015, Felix Sater . . . contacted Cohen on behalf of I.C. Expert Investment Company (I.C. Expert), a Russian real-estate development corporation controlled by Andrei Vladimirovich Rozov.J07 Sater had known Rozov since approximately 2007 and, in 2014, had served as an agent on behalf of Rozov during Rozov's purchase of a building in New York City.30S Sater later contacted Rozov and proposed that I.C. Expert pursue a Trump Tower Moscow project in which I.C. Expert would license the name and brand from the Trump Organization but construct the building on its own. Sater worked on the deal with Rozov and another employee of I.C. Expert. (see page 69 of the Mueller Report).

To reiterate--if the Steele Dossier was based on truthful intelligence then the Trump organization only had to sit back, stretch out their hands and seize the moment. Instead, little Felix Sater keeps coming back to the well. In January 2016, according to the Mueller report.

Sater then sent a draft invitation for Cohen to visit Moscow to discuss the Trump Moscow project,along with a note to "[t]ell me if the letter is good as amended by me or make whatever changes you want and send it back to me."

After a further round of edits, on January 25, 2016, Sater sent Cohen an invitation- signed by Andrey Ryabinskiy of the company MHJ-to travel to"Moscow for a working visit" about the "prospects of development and the construction business in Russia," "the various land plots available suited for construction of this enormous Tower," and "the opportunity to co-ordinate a follow up visit to Moscow by Mr. Donald Trump.


This produced nothing. No deal, no trip. But Sater persisted:

Beginning in late 2015, Sater repeatedly tried to arrange for Cohen and candidate Trump, as representatives of the Trump Organization, to travel to Russia to meet with Russian government officials and possible financing partners. . . .

Into the spring of 2016, Sater and Cohen continued to discuss a trip to Moscow in connection with the Trump Moscow project. On April 20, 2016, Sater wrote Cohen, " [t)he People wanted to know when you are coming?,,

On May 4, 2016, Sater followed up:

“I had a chat with Moscow. ASSUMING the trip does happen the question is before or after the convention. I said I believe, but don't know for sure, that's it's probably after the convention. Obviously the pre-meeting trip (you only) can happen anytime you want but he 2 big guys where [sic) the question. I said I would confirm and revert.”

On May 5, 2016, Sater wrote to Cohen:

“Peskov would like to invite you as his guest to the St. Petersburg Forum which is Russia's Davos it's June 16-19. He wants to meet there with you and possibly introduce you to either Putin or Medvedev, as they are not sure if 1 or both will be there. This is perfect. The entire business class of Russia will be there as well.”

On June 14, 2016, Cohen met Sater in the lobby of the Trump Tower in New York and informed him that he would not be traveling at that time


Why was Felix Sater the one repeatedly identified pushing to arrange deals with the Russians and yet did not face any subsequent charges by the Mueller team? Sater had been working as part of the Trump team since 2003. Why is it that the proposed deals and travel to Moscow came predominantly from Felix Sater? As I noted in my previous piece--The FBI Tried and Failed to Entrap Trump--Sater was an active FBI undercover informant. He had been working with the FBI since 1998. When he agreed to start working as an undercover informant aka cooperator in December 1998 guess who signed off on the deal? Andrew Weissman. You can see the deal here. It was signed 10 December 1998.

An honest prosecutor would have and should have disclosed this fact. He, Sater, was the one encouraging the Trump team to cozy up to Russia. Mueller does not disclose one single instance of Trump or Cohen or any of the Trump kids calling Sater on the carpet and chewing his ass for not bringing them deals and not opening doors in Russia. Omitting this key fact goes beyond simple disingenuity. It is a conscious lie.

The circumstantial evidence indicates that Sater was doing this at the behest of FBI handlers. We do not yet know who they are.

But Sater's behavior and status as an FBI Informant was not an isolated incident. We also have the case of Michael Caputo and Roger Stone being approached by a Russian gangster named Henry Greenberg. According to democratdossier.com:

Greenberg's birth name is Gennady Vasilievich Vostretsov, the son of Yekatrina Vostretsova and Vasliy Vostretsov. He later adopted new names twice as a result of two different marriages and became Gennady V. Arzhanik and later Henry Oknyansky. Henry Greenberg is not a legal alias, but he uses it quite commonly in recent years.

But you would not know this from reading the Mueller report. Mr. Disingenuous strikes again:

In the spring of 2016, Trump Campaign advisor Michael Caputo learned through a Florida-based Russian business partner that another Florida-based Russian, Henry Oknyansky (who also went by the name Henry Greenberg), claimed to have information pertaining to Hillary Clinton . Caputo notified Roger Stone and brokered communication between Stone and Oknyansky.

Oknyansky and Stone set up a May 2016 in-person meeting.260 Oknyansky was accompanied to the meeting by Alexei Rasin, a Ukrainian associate involved in Florida real estate. At the meeting, Rasin offered to sell Stone derogatory information on Clinton that Rasin claimed to have obtained while working for Clinton. Rasin claimed to possess financial statements demonstrating Clinton's involvement in money laundering with Rasin's companies. According to Oknyansky, Stone asked if the amounts in question totaled millions of dollars but was told it was closer to hundreds of thousands. Stone refused the offer, stating that Trump would not pay for opposition research.


How does a guy like Vorkretsov/Greenberg, with an extensive criminal record and circumstantial ties to the Russian mob gain entrance into the United States? Very simple answer. He too was an FBI informant:

In an affidavit, Vostretsov explained to an immigration judge he worked for the FBI for 17 years throughout the world, including in the US, Iran and North Korea. He explained in the same paperwork the FBI granted him several temporary visas to visit the US in exchange for information about criminal activities.

Please take time to read the full dossier at democrat dossier.

This is more than an odd coincidence. This is a pattern. The FBI was targeting the Trump campaign and personnel in a deliberate effort to implicate them in wanting to work with Russians.

And there is more. George Papodopoulus was entrapped by individuals linked to British MI-6 and the CIA with offers to provide meetings with Russians and Putin. The Mueller account is a lie:

In late April 2016, Papadopoulos was told by London-based professor Joseph Mifsud, immediately after Mifsud 's return from a trip to Moscow, that the Russian government had obtained "dirt" on candidate Clinton in the form of thousands of emails. One week later, on May 6, 2016, Papadopoulos suggested to a representative of a foreign government that the Trump Campaign had received indications from the Russian government that it could assist the Campaign through the anonymous release of information that would be damaging to candidate Clinton.

Papadopoulos shared information about Russian "dirt " with people outside of the Campaign, and the Office investigated whether he also provided it to a Campaign official. Papadopoulos and the Campaign officials with whom he interacted told the Office that they did · not recall that Papadopoulos passed them the information. Throughout the relevant period of time and for several months thereafter, Papadopoulos worked with Mifsud and two Russian nationals to arrange a meeting between the Campaign and the Russian government. That meeting never came to pass.


Once again, the Mueller team treats the provocateur--i.e., Joseph Mifsud--as some simple guy with ties to Russia's political elites. Another egregious lie. Mifsud was not working on behalf of Russia. He was deployed by MI-6. Disobedient Media has been on the forefront of exposing Mifsud's ties to western intelligence in general and the Brits in particular.

Mifsud’s alleged links to Russian intelligence are summarily debunked by his close working relationship with Claire Smith, a major figure in the upper echelons of British intelligence. A number of Twitter users recently observed that Joseph Mifsud had been photographed standing next to Claire Smith of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee at Mifsud’s LINK campus in Rome. Newsmax and Buzzfeed later reported that the professor’s name and biography had been removed from the campus’ website, writing that the mysterious removal took place after Mifsud had served the institution for “years.”

WikiLeaks Editor-in-Chief Julian Assange likewise noted the connection between Mifsud and Smith in a Twitter thread, additionally pointing out his connections with Saudi intelligence: “[Mifsud] and Claire Smith of the UK Joint Intelligence Committee and eight-year member of the UK Security Vetting panel both trained Italian security services at the Link University in Rome and appear to both be present in this [photo].”

The photograph in question originated on Geodiplomatics.com, where it specified that Joseph Mifsud is indeed standing next to Claire Smith, who was attending a: “…Training program on International Security which was organised by Link Campus University and London Academy of Diplomacy.” The event is listed as taking place in October, 2012. This is highly significant for a number of reasons.


This is not a mere matter of Mueller and his team "failing" to disclose some important facts. If they were operating honestly they should have investigated Mifsud, Greenberg and Sater. But they did not. Two of the three--Sater and Greenber--alleged Russian stooges have ties to the FBI. And Mifsud has been living and working in the belly of the intelligence community.

When you put these facts together it is clear that there is real meat on the bone for Barr's upcoming investigation of the "spying" that was being done on the Trump campaign by law enforcement and intelligence.
These facts must become a part of the public consciousness. The foreign country that worked feverishly to meddle in the 2016 Presidential election and the subsequent rule of Donald Trump is the United Kingdom. Russia is the patsy.






Gee, the very first sentence is wrong - nice job, SIG-for-Brains.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/25/opinion/mueller-trump-campaign-russ
ia-conpiracy-.html


"By the preponderance of evidence standard, the report contains ample evidence to establish conspiracy and coordination with the Russian government, sometimes through intermediaries, other times through a Russian spy."

One can only imagine if right out of the box, with their initial premise being a lie, how many other boners are in that "article." See:

- The Trump Lie Machine Just Keeps Rolling.

- Keep lying until they catch you, then change your story.

- The Firehose of Falsehoods - engage!

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Friday, April 26, 2019 7:07 AM

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This article details how Mueller buried the information that the Trump . . .

Mueller didn't bury information about obstruction. Even Fox News could find it:

Fox News’ Legal Analyst Called Trump’s Obstruction “Immoral, Criminal, Defenseless, and Condemnable”
www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-did-president-trump-ob
struct-justice


“When the president asked his former Deputy National Security Adviser K.T. McFarland to write an untruthful letter to the file knowing the government would subpoena it — that’s obstruction of justice,” Napolitano says. “When the president asked Corey Lewandowski, his former campaign manager, to get Mueller fired — that’s obstruction of justice. When the president asked his then White House counsel to get Mueller fired and then lie about — that’s obstruction of justice. When he asked Don McGahn to go back to the special counsel and change his testimony — that’s obstruction of justice. When he dangled a pardon in front of Michael Cohen in order to keep Cohen from testifying against him — that’s obstruction of justice.”

“So why not charge him?,” he asks. “Because the attorney general of the United States would have blocked such a charge. Because the attorney general of the United States is of the view that obstruction of justice can only occur if you’re interfering with a criminal investigation of yourself. But that’s not what the obstruction statute says. And that’s not what law enforcement believes and that’s not what prosecutors do. Prosecutors prosecute people who interfere with government functions. And that’s what the president did by obstruction.”

“If President Trump had ordered his aides to violate federal law to save a human life or to preserve human freedom, he would at least have a moral defense to his behavior,” Napolitano concludes. “But ordering them to break federal law to save him from the consequences of his own behavior that is immoral, that is criminal, that is defenseless, and that is condemnable.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Rosenstein Says Russia Meddling Even Worse Than You Think

Even after the Mueller report documented Russian interference in the 2016 election, that is only a small part of the story. “The bottom line is, there was overwhelming evidence that Russian operatives hacked American computers and defrauded American citizens, and that is only the tip of the iceberg of a comprehensive Russian strategy to influence elections, promote social discord, and undermine America, just like they do in many other countries,” Rosenstein said.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/04/rosenstein-says-russia-meddling
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Friday, April 26, 2019 8:25 PM

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lol


I'm starting to think that the real Russian trolls are the ones who are doing all the daily fear-mongering that we're already being ran by Russians.

So. How much does Putin pay exactly, Second?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, April 26, 2019 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol


I'm starting to think that the real Russian trolls are the ones who are doing all the daily fear-mongering that we're already being ran by Russians.

So. How much does Putin pay exactly, Second?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

While Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein did confirm that “there was overwhelming evidence that Russian operatives hacked American computers and defrauded American citizens, and that is only the tip of the iceberg of a comprehensive Russian strategy to influence elections, promote social discord, and undermine America,” he didn’t mention that when Kirstjen Nielsen, former head of the Department of Homeland Security, attempted to discuss potential Russian interference in the 2020 election, she was advised to stop raising it with the president.

6ix, Trump won't pay Putin attention.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/rod-rosenstein-donald-trum
p-channeling-anti-media-speech.html


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol


I'm starting to think that the real Russian trolls are the ones who are doing all the daily fear-mongering that we're already being ran by Russians.

So. How much does Putin pay exactly, Second?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

One of the nation's top law enforcement officials said Moscow's meddling in the past has been a 'dress rehearsal' for the 2020 presidential contest.

Russian efforts to influence American public opinion are not confined only to periods around elections, FBI Director Chris Wray said Friday.

"It's pretty much a 365-days-a-year threat. And that has absolutely continued," Wray said.

The FBI chief said it consists of constant use of social media, with "fake news, propaganda, false personas, et cetera, to spin us up, pit us against each other, sow divisiveness and discord, and undermine Americans' faith in democracy."

www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/fbi-chief-wray-russia-works
-365-days-year-undermine-american-n999086


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Saturday, April 27, 2019 7:54 AM

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meh. Whatever.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, May 5, 2019 4:24 PM

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It's posted on Daily Mail.

It just affirms what everyone already knows, Trump and everyone around him lied their asses off. Non-guilty people don't need to lie and delete communications...

Anybody heard of 32,000 emails deleted by the Real Criminal...Hilliary?

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
It's posted on Daily Mail.

It just affirms what everyone already knows, Trump and everyone around him lied their asses off. Non-guilty people don't need to lie and delete communications...

Anybody heard of 32,000 emails deleted by the Real Criminal...Hilliary?



Yeah, why didn’t she ever get prosecuted for that? Trump had a gop controlled congress for nearly 2 years and they couldn’t beat a woman - what happened? Any ideas JSF?

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
It's posted on Daily Mail.

It just affirms what everyone already knows, Trump and everyone around him lied their asses off. Non-guilty people don't need to lie and delete communications...

Anybody heard of 32,000 emails deleted by the Real Criminal...Hilliary?



Yeah, why didn’t she ever get prosecuted for that? Trump had a gop controlled congress for nearly 2 years and they couldn’t beat a woman - what happened? Any ideas JSF?

Trump was concerned about the expense. From today's tweet: Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

After spending more than $35,000,000 over a two year period, interviewing 500 people, using 18 Trump Hating Angry Democrats & 49 FBI Agents - all culminating in a more than 400 page Report showing NO COLLUSION - why would the Democrats in Congress now need Robert Mueller to testify. Are they looking for a redo because they hated seeing the strong NO COLLUSION conclusion? There was no crime, except on the other side (incredibly not covered in the Report), and NO OBSTRUCTION. Bob Mueller should not testify. No redos for the Dems!
11:03 AM - 5 May 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1125098704560689157

Trump is so concerned about the $35 million for Mueller that he didn’t spend all of the $120 Million to fight Russian meddling. He spent $0.
www.nytimes.com/2018/03/04/world/europe/state-department-russia-global
-engagement-center.html


As Russia’s virtual war against the United States continues unabated with the midterm elections approaching, the State Department has yet to spend any of the $120 million it has been allocated since late 2016 to counter foreign efforts to meddle in elections or sow distrust in democracy.

As a result, not one of the 23 analysts working in the department’s Global Engagement Center — which has been tasked with countering Moscow’s disinformation campaign — speaks Russian, and a department hiring freeze has hindered efforts to recruit the computer experts needed to track the Russian efforts.

The delay is just one symptom of the largely passive response to the Russian interference by President Trump, who has made little if any public effort to rally the nation to confront Moscow and defend democratic institutions.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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