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The secret plot to depose Trump

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Friday, October 25, 2019 10:49 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


JUST A REMINDER OF WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT ...
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I created this thread as a place to put all of that information (which will be revealed soon, I think) about the conspiracy against Trump and all who participated in it.

I created a separate thread because there are already multiple posts in multiple threads about social media, M$M, the Clintons, Obama, the FBI/CIA/NSA/DOJ, holdover employees and appointees, foreign governments (not Russian)... it was a wide-ranging conspiracy and in order to understand the full scope, the articles need to be gathered in one thread, and not scattered among many.

THIS IS NOT a defense of Trump. Please don't bring your whines and bitches about Trump and RUSSIA!!!! here! You have a gazillion threads to obssess in; this is something else.



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You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Friday, October 25, 2019 10:57 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



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The DOJ's Russiagate Probe Just Turned Into A Criminal Investigation

What began as an administrative review by the Justice Department into the origins of Russiagate has "shifted" to a criminal inquiry, according to the New York Times, https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/politics/john-durham-criminal-in
vestigation.html
citing two people familiar with the matter.

The move will allow prosecutor John H Durham the power to subpoena documents and witnesses, to impanel a grand jury, and to file criminal charges. Durham's progress has been closely monitored by Attorney General William Barr, who appointed the veteran investigator in May, tasking him with looking into FBI and CIA intelligence gathering operations surrounding the 2016 US election.

As the Daily Caller's Chuck Ross notes, Barr said on April 10 that he believed "spying" had taken place against the Trump campaign, and that he doesn't buy former FBI officials' version of how the collusion investigation began.

Little is known about Durham’s activities so far in the investigation. The Times report said it is unclear when the investigation took on a criminal element, or what specific crime Durham is investigating.

Durham accompanied Barr to Italy late in September as part of an inquiry into U.S. intelligence agents’ activities there during the 2016 campaign. They also inquired about Joseph Mifsud, a mysterious Maltese professor who established contact with Trump aide George Papadopoulos in 2016. -Daily Caller


Just over three weeks ago, the Times also reported that President Trump asked the Australian Prime Minister to help Barr uncover the origins of "Russiagate," a move which Justice Department officials said "would be neither illegal nor untoward for Trump to ask."

And according to NBC News, Durham has set his sights on former CIA Director John Brennan and former national intelligence director James Clapper.

Durham's investigation has been running parallel to a probe by Justice Department Inspector General (and registered Democrat) Michael Horowitz, who told Congress on Thursday that he expects his report to be "lengthy," but able to be made mostly available to the public.

The Durham probe is similar to a Justice Department inspector general’s investigation into the FBI’s surveillance of Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. Michael Horowitz, the inspector general, told Congress on Thursday that the report of that investigation is “lengthy” and that he anticipates most of it will be made public.

Horowitz has been investigating whether the FBI misled the foreign surveillance court in spy applications against Page. Investigators relied heavily on the Steele dossier in the applications, though information in that document was largely unverified. Unlike Durham, Horowitz has not had subpoena power, and cannot use a grand jury as part of his investigation. -Daily Caller


And of course, with Durham's administrative review turning into a criminal probe, the Times has already given away the predictable response from the left; Barr is investigating the Obama intelligence community to help Trump win in 2020. Nothing to see here folks, right?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/doj-russiagate-probe-just-turned-c
riminal-investigation-nyt


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Friday, October 25, 2019 11:02 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I created this thread as a place to put all of that information (which will be revealed soon, I think) about the conspiracy against Trump and all who participated in it.

How "soon" is "revealed soon"? You started this thread Saturday, April 27, 2019 11:32 AM.
On Sunday, it will be 6 months. How soon?

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted today:

“Donald J. Trump is an absolutely historic President already, in less than 3 years in office. His record is there for everyone to look at & to examine and compare. This is an illegitimate effort to overthrow a President, not a formal Impeachment inquiry.” @LouDobbs Thank you Lou
5:54 AM - 25 Oct 2019

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187714024378646531

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 25, 2019 11:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
How "soon" is "revealed soon"? You started this thread Saturday, April 27, 2019 11:32 AM.
On Sunday, it will be 6 months. How soon?




How "soon" is the countdown clock to Trump's impeachment going to "start"?

T started that thread Tuesday, February 14, 2017 12:49 PM.

On Valentine's Day, it will be 3 years. How soon?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 25, 2019 4:07 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Kunstler is always good for a few guffaws.

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THE SOUND OF SHOES DROPPING IN THE NIGHT

It was interesting to watch the Cable News divas go incandescent under the glare of their own gaslight late yesterday when they received the unpleasant news that the Barr & Durham “review” of RussiaGate had been officially upgraded to a “criminal investigation.” Rachel Maddow’s trademark pouty-face got a workout as she strained to imagine “…what the thing is that Durham might be looking into.” Yes, that’s a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, all right… with a sputtering fuse sticking out of it. Welcome to the Wile E. Coyote Lookalike Club, Rache. You’ll have a lot of competition when the Sunday morning news-chat shows rev up.

Minutes later, the answer dawned on her: “It [the thing] follows the wildest conspiracy theories from Fox News!” You’d think that someone who invested two-plus years of her life in the Mueller report, which blew up in her pouty-face last spring, might have felt a twinge of journalistic curiosity as to the sum-and-substance of the thing. But no, she just hauled on-screen RussiaGate intriguer David Laufman, a former DOJ lawyer who ran the agency’s CounterIntel and Export Control desk during the RussiaGate years, and also helped oversee the botched Hillary Clinton private email server probe.

“They have this theory,” Rachel said, “that maybe Russia didn’t interfere in the election….”

“It’s preposterous,” said Mr. Laufman, all lawyered up and ready to draw a number and take a seat for his own grand jury testimony. (Note: Mr. Laufman was also deeply involved in the Brett Kavanaugh fiasco as lawyer to Christine Blasey Ford’s BFF, former FBI agent Monica McLean.)

Over in the locked ward of CNN, Andy Cooper and Jeff Toobin attempted to digest the criminal investigation news as if someone had ordered in a platter of shit sandwiches for the green room just before air-time. Toobin pretended to not know exactly who the mysterious Joseph Mifsud was, and struggled to even pronounce his name: “…Mifsood? Misfood…? You mean the Italian professor?” No Jeff, the guy employed by several “friendly” foreign intelligence agencies, and the CIA, to sandbag Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos, and failed. I guess when you’re at the beating heart of TV news, you don’t have to actually follow any of the stories reported outside your range of thought and experience.

Next Andy hauled onscreen former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper (now a paid CNN “contributor”) to finesse a distinction between the “overall investigation of the Russian interference” and “the counterintelligence investigation that was launched by the FBI.” Consider that Mr. Clapper was right in the middle between the CIA and the FBI. Since he is known to be a friend of Mr. Comey’s and a not-friend of Mr. Brennan’s one can easily see which way Mr. Clapper is tilting. One can also see the circular firing squad that this is a setup for. And, of course, Mr. Clapper himself will be a subject in Mr. Durham’s criminal case proceedings. I predict October will be the last month that Mr. Clapper draws a CNN paycheck — as he hunkers down with his attorneys awaiting the subpoena with his name on it.

The New York Times story on this turn of events Friday morning is a lame attempt to rescue former FBI Director Jim Comey by pinning the blame for RussiaGate on the CIA, shoving CIA John Brennan under the bus. The Times report says: “Mr. Durham has also asked whether C.I.A. officials might have somehow tricked the F.B.I. into opening the Russia investigation.” There’s the next narrative for you. Expect to hear this incessantly well into 2020: “We wuz tricked!”

I wonder if there is any way to hold the errand boys-and-girls in the news media accountable for their roles as handmaidens in what will be eventually known as a seditious coup to overthrow a president. We do enjoy freedom of the press in this land, but I can see how these birds merit charges as unindicted co-conspirators in the affair. One wonders if the various boards of directors of the newspaper and cable news outfits might seek to salvage their self-respect by firing the executives who allowed it happen. If anything might be salutary in the outcome of this hot mess, it would be a return to respectability of the news media.

As for impeachment, ringmaster Rep. Adam Schiff is surely steaming straight into his own historic Joe McCarthy moment when somebody of incontestable standing denounces him as a fraud and a scoundrel… and the mysterious workings of nonlinear behavior tips the political mob past a criticality threshold, shifting the weight of consensus out of darkness and madness. It has happened before in history. Two centuries before Joe McCarthy, the French national assembly suddenly turned on the Jacobins Robespierre and St. Just after their orgy of beheading 17,000 enemies. The two were quickly dispatched themselves to the awe of their beloved guillotine and the Jacobin faction was not heard of again —until recently in America, where it first infected the Universities and then sickened the polity at large almost unto death

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-sound-of-shoes-dropping-in
-the-night
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Saturday, October 26, 2019 4:16 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



Even more excellent posts, now page 5.



Index of posts revealing new reports (of old news which most of us already knew).

#2 - 27 April - Obama White House, Podesta, Biden forcing Ukraine to help with conspiracy.
#3 - 27 April - Comey/Rosenstein.
#10 - 27 April - Mike Whitney.
#17 - 2 May - Nellie Ohr.
#19 - 2 May - Nellie Ohr lying to Congress.
#31 - 3 May - Barr Investigating FBI "Spying"
#32 - 3 May - Azra Turk is first named FBI Spy sent to spy on Trump. Then FBI denied it.
#35 - 3 May - FBI's Honeypot Spytrap against Trump, MSM keeping mum.
#37 - 10 May - FBI, Steele lies are falling apart - link only.
#39 - 11 May - Judgment Day for Brennan


#69 - 14 May - Barr picks Dunham.
#72 - 14 May - Guiliani on Steele and Dossier.
#82 - 17 May - FBI, CIA blaming each other (Comey/Brennan)
#94 - 19 May - James Baker backing away.


#105 - 20 May - Ghost Data finds collusion of Anti-Trump campaign.
#108 - 22 May - Barr closing in on Comey, Brennan
#112 - 23 May - Bucket 5, Gang of 8
#116 - 28 May - from another thread, Trump grants Barr Declassification Authority on documents.
#117 - 28 May - Steele now hiding from Barr & team.
#118 - 30 May - Obama's Crooked Cops & Spies scrambling for cover.
#120 - 31 May - Whistleblower exposes Obama's DOMESTIC Spying program.
#133 - 7 June - Mueller Outright Lie #2.
#134 - 7 June - Mueller Outright Lie #1.
#143 - 16 June - Fake Source of Fake Hacking pretext.
#144 - 16 June - Video of Nunes opening Statement on Mueller Dossier.
#148 - 17 June - Partial transcript of video of Nunes opening statement.


#162 - 22 June - Comey's lies to President, FBI Mole Ferrante in White House.
#165 - 29 July - Weisman had begged Russians for dirt on Trump.
#179 - 30 August - IG Report on Comey and his Crimes.
#184 - 12 September - The innocence of Gen. Mike Flynn.
#185 - 12 September - McCabe indicted.
#187 - 23 September - House Democrat Chairmen not interested in Facts or Truth.
#194 - 19 October - Top Secret Plotters are getting caught up, hiring lawyers.

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Saturday, October 26, 2019 4:18 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I created this thread as a place to put all of that information (which will be revealed soon, I think) about the conspiracy against Trump and all who participated in it.

How "soon" is "revealed soon"? You started this thread Saturday, April 27, 2019 11:32 AM.
On Sunday, it will be 6 months. How soon?

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted today:

“Donald J. Trump is an absolutely historic President already, in less than 3 years in office. His record is there for everyone to look at & to examine and compare. This is an illegitimate effort to overthrow a President, not a formal Impeachment inquiry.” @LouDobbs Thank you Lou
5:54 AM - 25 Oct 2019

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1187714024378646531

For the past 3 years most folk have had a clue. Why haven't you? Are you illiterate? Or just clueless? Or it's twin, a Libtard?

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Saturday, October 26, 2019 4:39 PM

THG


'I feel bad that I left': John Kelly warned Trump he would be impeached

SEA ISLAND, Georgia — John Kelly warned President Trump that hiring a “yes man” to succeed him as White House chief of staff would lead to impeachment and, in hindsight, regrets his decision to resign.

House Democrats launched an impeachment inquiry into Trump less than a year after Kelly departed the administration. The retired, four-star Marine general suggested the blame lies squarely with acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and other advisers who are unable, or unwilling, to keep the president out of trouble.

Kelly, 69, said he privately cautioned Trump during his final days on the job that he would be impeached if he did not tap a chief of staff with the fortitude to check the president’s bad impulses. Kelly said he does not believe the president would be in this predicament had he stayed.

“I said, whatever you do — and we were still in the process of trying to find someone to take my place — I said whatever you do, don’t hire a ‘yes man,’ someone who won’t tell you the truth — don’t do that. Because if you do, I believe you will be impeached,” Kelly recalled, in an interview at the Sea Island Summit, a political conference hosted by the Washington Examiner.

“That was almost 11 months ago, and I have an awful lot of, to say the least, second thoughts about leaving,” Kelly said. “It pains me to see what’s going on because I believe if I was still there or someone like me was there, he would not be kind of, all over the place.”

The House is expected to vote on articles of impeachment by Christmas, with a trial to follow in the Senate to determine whether Trump should be removed from office. The proceedings were sparked by allegations that the president asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to launch an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden, a political rival seeking the Democratic nomination.

Kelly, Trump’s homeland security secretary before being tapped as his second chief of staff, did not validate impeachment or endorse the inquiry. But he indicated that the White House bears some responsibility for the investigation, saying flatly that it was avoidable — contradicting many Trump allies who insist congressional Democrats were going to find any excuse to impeach the president.
“Someone has got to be a guide that tells [the president] that you either have the authority or you don’t; or Mr. President, don’t do it,” Kelly said. “Don’t hire someone that will just nod and say, ‘That’s a great idea Mr. President.’ Because you will be impeached.”

Kelly added, “The system that should be in place, clearly — the system of advising, bringing in experts in, having these discussions with the president so he can make an informed decision, that clearly is not in place. And I feel bad that I left.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/i-feel-bad-that-i-left-john-ke
lly-warned-trump-he-would-be-impeached/ar-AAJpce4?ocid=spartandhp


tick tock

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Saturday, October 26, 2019 4:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Fuck John Kelly.

Swamp draining in process. He's a turd.

Buh-bye, idiot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 26, 2019 10:12 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



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How the FBI entrapped Michael Flynn

Earlier this week, Michael Flynn’s star attorney, Sidney Powell, filed under seal a brief in reply to federal prosecutors’ claims that they have already given Flynn’s defense team all the evidence they are required by law to provide. A minimally redacted copy of the reply brief has just been made public, and with it shocking details of the deep state’s plot to destroy Flynn.

While the briefing at issue concerns Powell’s motion to compel the government to hand over evidence required by Brady and presiding Judge Emmett Sullivan’s standing order, Powell’s 37-page brief pivots between showcasing the prosecution’s penchant for withholding evidence and exposing significant new evidence the defense team uncovered that establishes a concerted effort to entrap Flynn. Along the way, Powell drops half-a-dozen problems with Flynn’s plea and an equal number of justifications for outright dismissal of the criminal charges against Flynn.

What is most striking, though, is the timeline Powell pieced together from publicly reported text messages withheld from the defense team and excerpts from documents still sealed from public view. The sequence Powell lays out shows that a team of “high-ranking FBI officials orchestrated an ambush-interview of the new president’s National Security Advisor, not for the purpose of discovering any evidence of criminal activity—they already had tapes of all the relevant conversations about which they questioned Mr. Flynn—but for the purpose of trapping him into making statements they could allege as false.”

*** ‘The Upper Echelon of the FBI Met to Orchestrate It All’

First came FBI agent Peter Strzok’s text to FBI attorney Lisa Page “as news of the ‘salacious and unverified’ allegations of the ‘Steele dossier’ dominated the media.” “Sitting with Bill watching CNN. A TON more out. . . We’re discussing whether, now that this is out, we can use it as a pretext to go interview some people,” Strzok told his paramour.

Then, quoting from a sealed statement by Strzok, Powell reveals that over next two weeks, there were “many meetings” between Strzok and [FBI Deputy Director Andrew] McCabe to discuss “whether to interview [] National Security Advisor Michael Flynn and if so, what interview strategies to use.” And “on January 23, the day before the interview, the upper echelon of the FBI met to orchestrate it all. Deputy Director McCabe, General Counsel James Baker, Lisa Page, Strzok, David Bowdich, Trish Anderson, and Jen Boone strategized to talk with Mr. Flynn in such a way as to keep from alerting him from understanding that he was being interviewed in a criminal investigation of which he was the target.”

Next came “Comey’s direction to ‘screw it’ in contravention of longstanding DOJ protocols,” leading McCabe to personally call Flynn to schedule the interview. Yet none of Comey’s notes on the decision to interview Flynn were turned over to defense. Even Obama-holdover “Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates candidly opined that the interview ‘was problematic’ and ‘it was not always clear what the FBI was doing to investigate Flynn,” Powell stressed. Yet again, the prosecution did not turn over Yates’ notes, but only “disclosed a seven-line summary of Ms. Yates statement six months after Mr. Flynn’s plea.”

Following Strzok’s questioning of Flynn, he exchanged more texts with Page: “Describe the feeling, nervousness, excitement knowing we had just heard him denying it all. Knowing we’d have to pivot into asking. Puzzle round and round about it. Talk about the funny details. Remember what I said that made Andy laugh and ask if he really said that.”

The texts also confirmed Strzok did not believe Flynn thought he was lying: “Also have some faith in and my assessment. . . . I’m finding it hard to go out on a counterintuitive yet strongly felt ledge with so many competent voices expressing what I feel too: bullsh*t – that doesn’t make sense. [] I made some joke about what F said. Something patriotic or military.” Page responded: “It was clear that you both walked in and felt very strongly, so that obviously counts for something. [] You made a joke about a military band.”

A sealed statement from Strzok confirmed that the “agents did three briefings the day of the interview,” and that Strzok had reported that Flynn “had a sure demeanor, and he was telling the truth or believed he was—even though he did not remember it all.” This led the FBI and DOJ to then write “an internal memo dated January 30, 2017, exonerating Mr. Flynn of acting as an ‘agent of Russia’” and expressing no concern of a possible Logan Act violation.

*** Then the Switch on the 302

But then things change.

“On February 10, 2017, the news broke—attributed to ‘senior intelligence officials’—that Mr. Flynn had discussed sanctions with Ambassador Kislyak, contrary to what Vice President Pence had said on television previously.” Following this leak, “overnight,” Flynn’s 302 was changed—and substantively so. “Those changes added an unequivocal statement that ‘FLYNN stated he did not’—in response to whether Mr. Flynn had asked Kislyak to vote in a certain manner or slow down the UN vote.”

“This is a deceptive manipulation” Powell highlighted, “because, as the notes of the agents show, Mr. Flynn was not even sure he had spoken to Russia/Kislyak on this issue. He had talked to dozens of countries.” The overnight changes to the 302 also included the addition of a line, indicating Flynn had been questioned on whether “KISLYAK described any Russian response to a request by FLYNN.”

But the agent’s notes do not include that question or answer, Powell stressed, yet it was later made into the criminal offense charges against Flynn. And “the draft also shows that the agents moved a sentence to make it seem to be an answer to a question it was not,” Powell added.

Then, the day after those changes were made, Strzok texted Page asking: “Also, is Andy good with F 302?” Page replied: “Launch f302.” Simultaneously, David Laufman in the National Security Division of DOJ, called Flynn’s law firm, Covington and Burling, to pressure them to file the FARA registration form for Flynn Intel Group. Those FARA registration forms would later be used to press Flynn to plead guilty.

*** Ties to Collusion against President Trump

The timeline continued to May 10 when McCabe opened an “obstruction” investigation into President Trump. That same day, Powell writes, “in an important but still wrongly redacted text, Strzok says: ‘We need to lock in [redacted]. In a formal chargeable way. Soon.’” Page replies: “I agree. I’ve been pushing and I’ll reemphasize with Bill [Priestap].”

Powell argues that “both from the space of the redaction, its timing, and other events, the defense strongly suspects the redacted name is Flynn.” That timing includes Robert Mueller’s appointment as special counsel on May 17, and then the reentering of Flynn’s 302 on May 31, 2017, “for Special Counsel Mueller to use.”

That final Flynn 302 shows yet another inconsistency from the notes turned over to Powell. Both agents’ notes state: “Flynn does not remember making four to five calls to Ambassador Kislyak from the Dominican Republic, where he was on vacation, but that if he did so, it was because phone service was poor and he kept getting dropped. ‘I don’t remember making 4-5 calls. If I did lousy place to call.’” Yet, Powell stressed, the final 302 stated the opposite: “Flynn remembered making four to five calls that day about this issue, but that the Dominican Republic was a difficult place to make a call as he kept having connectivity issues.”

Powell pieced together this timeline and this disturbing evidence of a government out to destroy a man only after Flynn pleaded guilty and without benefit of the exculpatory evidence the prosecution was required to provide. And that’s a problem, Powell argues: “Neither Mr. Flynn nor his former counsel had any of these documents or knowledge of the plethora of information discussed above when Mr. Flynn entered his plea.”

Federal prosecutors attempt to sidestep this problem by stressing that Flynn was represented by Covington and Burling, but that does not excuse the government’s withholding of evidence Judge Sullivan had ordered turned over, Powell stresses. As a backstop, Powell highlights that Covington and Burling had a conflict-of-interest that Flynn could not waive.

How Judge Sullivan will rule on Powell’s motion to compel and motion for sanctions is unclear. But as Powell said in the opening of her reply brief, she has “made clear from her first appearance, [that] Mr. Flynn will ask this Court to dismiss the entire prosecution based on the outrageous and un-American conduct of law enforcement officials and the subsequent failure of the prosecution to disclose this evidence— which it had in its possession all along—either in a timely fashion or at all.”




https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/25/sidney-powell-drops-bombshell-sho
wing-how-the-fbi-trapped-michael-flynn
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It looks to me like in two places the FBI changed Flynn's responses from "I don't remember" to "I DO remember", and withheld those notes from his atty. They also withheld their assessment that Flynn was telling the truth, or believed he was telling the truth. This assessment is significant because FBI interviewers are trained to detect lying, that's a large part of their skillset and they take great pride in being human lie detectors.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Sunday, October 27, 2019 3:16 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Sunday, October 27, 2019 12:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


bump to keep this on top

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Monday, October 28, 2019 11:52 AM

THG


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Originally posted by THG:

Anybody else need more evidence six ( jack ) is a racist? I don't...

T


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Apparently Elijah Cummings Died this past week.



Yes. He will be remembered for his legacy of rat infested streets in Baltimore, as well as being a recognized member of the White Power movement, according to the ADL's new rules.





https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/okay-hand-gestur
e


Do Right, Be Right. :)





See Obama's message for elected officials and our own racist Jack at funeral
T






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Monday, October 28, 2019 11:58 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Obama was a lying asshole. I get the creeps every time I hear his self-important professsorial tone, just like I did with GWB's breathy folksy twang. Obama killed at least a half- million people and GWB killed a million. Neither one of them deserves to talk about morality.

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Pity would be no more,
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You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Monday, October 28, 2019 3:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by THG:

Anybody else need more evidence six ( jack ) is a racist? I don't...
T


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Apparently Elijah Cummings Died this past week.



Yes. He will be remembered for his legacy of rat infested streets in Baltimore, as well as being a recognized member of the White Power movement, according to the ADL's new rules.





https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/okay-hand-gestur
e


Do Right, Be Right. :)





See Obama's message for elected officials and our own racist Jack at funeral




Fuck you milksop.

Fuck Elijah Cummings and Obama too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 28, 2019 3:59 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I'm going to make a prediction.

As information comes out about the illegality of the surveillance of the Trump campaign, the officials who did this will defend themselves by saying ... Oh sure, we're the deep state. And oh yeah, we broke the law. But we had good reasons to try and depose an elected President, and we're sure you'll ate with us.

And everything that liberals have been screaming about for the past three years...

Foreign interference in our elections!
Presidents interfering with upcoming elections!
The deep state doesn't exist!
The government is Nazi-like!

... will be dropped from memory and droids will do a 180 without even noticing and safely not their heads in agreement with the deep state.

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Monday, October 28, 2019 5:48 PM

THG


Just pointing out the obvious Jack. Ya know, why you love the racist Trump. You're a racist yourself. It's documented now troll. Ya can't deny it anymore.

T



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Monday, October 28, 2019 5:50 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Just pointing out the obvious Jack. Ya know, why you love the racists Trump.

What are you trying to say? Please unscramble your grammar.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Monday, October 28, 2019 5:51 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Just pointing out the obvious Jack. Ya know, why you love the racists Trump.

What are you trying to say? Please unscramble your grammar.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.



Is that the best you got. Shoo you fucking moron.

T



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Monday, October 28, 2019 6:19 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, you CAN'T unscramble your grammar? Or do you have no idea what you're trying to say? (BTW, your trolling reply ALSO lacks a question mark.)
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Just pointing out the obvious Jack. Ya know, why you love the racists Trump.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
What are you trying to say? Please unscramble your grammar.

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Is that the best you got. Shoo you fucking moron.


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Monday, October 28, 2019 6:45 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So, you CAN'T unscramble your grammar? Or do you have no idea what you're trying to say? (BTW, your trolling reply ALSO lacks a question mark.)
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Just pointing out the obvious Jack. Ya know, why you love the racists Trump.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
What are you trying to say? Please unscramble your grammar.

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Is that the best you got. Shoo you fucking moron.




Do you really think nobody sees how stupid you are. How desperate you are for attention comrade.

tick tock, the clock is ticking down on your heroes impeachment.

T



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Monday, October 28, 2019 7:01 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Just pointing out the obvious Jack. Ya know, why you love the racist Trump. You're a racist yourself. It's documented now troll. Ya can't deny it anymore.

T





I asked you to explain why you think I'm racist or why you think that comment is racist.

Your answer is "you're racist".

You're a fucking idiot.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 28, 2019 7:02 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So, you CAN'T unscramble your grammar? Or do you have no idea what you're trying to say? (BTW, your trolling reply ALSO lacks a question mark.)
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Just pointing out the obvious Jack. Ya know, why you love the racists Trump.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
What are you trying to say? Please unscramble your grammar.

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Is that the best you got. Shoo you fucking moron.




Do you really think nobody sees how stupid you are. How desperate you are for attention comrade.

tick tock, the clock is ticking down on your heroes impeachment.

T




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Monday, October 28, 2019 7:10 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Anybody else need more evidence six ( jack ) is a racist? I don't...
T


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Apparently Elijah Cummings Died this past week.



Yes. He will be remembered for his legacy of rat infested streets in Baltimore, as well as being a recognized member of the White Power movement, according to the ADL's new rules.





https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/okay-hand-gestur
e


Do Right, Be Right. :)





See Obama's message for elected officials and our own racist Jack at funeral




Fuck you milksop.

Fuck Elijah Cummings and Obama too.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


T


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Monday, October 28, 2019 7:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Just pointing out the obvious Jack. Ya know, why you love the racist Trump. You're a racist yourself. It's documented now troll. Ya can't deny it anymore.

T





I asked you to explain why you think I'm racist or why you think that comment is racist.

Your answer is "you're racist".

You're a fucking idiot.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 28, 2019 7:15 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Just pointing out the obvious Jack. Ya know, why you love the racist Trump. You're a racist yourself. It's documented now troll. Ya can't deny it anymore.

T





I asked you to explain why you think I'm racist or why you think that comment is racist.

Your answer is "you're racist".

You're a fucking idiot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)







https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/okay-hand-gestur
e


Do Right, Be Right. :)


Here you go skin head. I know, explain the photos.

T



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Monday, October 28, 2019 7:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


They're self explanatory, idiot.

You explain to me how they're racist in that little pea brain of yours.

I try to put myself in unfortunate people's shoes when engaging with them, but there's no way I can emulate your level of stupid.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, October 31, 2019 8:44 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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How the FBI entrapped Michael Flynn

Earlier this week, Michael Flynn’s star attorney, Sidney Powell, filed under seal a brief in reply to federal prosecutors’ claims that they have already given Flynn’s defense team all the evidence they are required by law to provide. A minimally redacted copy of the reply brief has just been made public, and with it shocking details of the deep state’s plot to destroy Flynn.

While the briefing at issue concerns Powell’s motion to compel the government to hand over evidence required by Brady and presiding Judge Emmett Sullivan’s standing order, Powell’s 37-page brief pivots between showcasing the prosecution’s penchant for withholding evidence and exposing significant new evidence the defense team uncovered that establishes a concerted effort to entrap Flynn. Along the way, Powell drops half-a-dozen problems with Flynn’s plea and an equal number of justifications for outright dismissal of the criminal charges against Flynn.

What is most striking, though, is the timeline Powell pieced together from publicly reported text messages withheld from the defense team and excerpts from documents still sealed from public view. The sequence Powell lays out shows that a team of “high-ranking FBI officials orchestrated an ambush-interview of the new president’s National Security Advisor, not for the purpose of discovering any evidence of criminal activity—they already had tapes of all the relevant conversations about which they questioned Mr. Flynn—but for the purpose of trapping him into making statements they could allege as false.”

*** ‘The Upper Echelon of the FBI Met to Orchestrate It All’

First came FBI agent Peter Strzok’s text to FBI attorney Lisa Page “as news of the ‘salacious and unverified’ allegations of the ‘Steele dossier’ dominated the media.” “Sitting with Bill watching CNN. A TON more out. . . We’re discussing whether, now that this is out, we can use it as a pretext to go interview some people,” Strzok told his paramour.

Then, quoting from a sealed statement by Strzok, Powell reveals that over next two weeks, there were “many meetings” between Strzok and [FBI Deputy Director Andrew] McCabe to discuss “whether to interview [] National Security Advisor Michael Flynn and if so, what interview strategies to use.” And “on January 23, the day before the interview, the upper echelon of the FBI met to orchestrate it all. Deputy Director McCabe, General Counsel James Baker, Lisa Page, Strzok, David Bowdich, Trish Anderson, and Jen Boone strategized to talk with Mr. Flynn in such a way as to keep from alerting him from understanding that he was being interviewed in a criminal investigation of which he was the target.”

Next came “Comey’s direction to ‘screw it’ in contravention of longstanding DOJ protocols,” leading McCabe to personally call Flynn to schedule the interview. Yet none of Comey’s notes on the decision to interview Flynn were turned over to defense. Even Obama-holdover “Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates candidly opined that the interview ‘was problematic’ and ‘it was not always clear what the FBI was doing to investigate Flynn,” Powell stressed. Yet again, the prosecution did not turn over Yates’ notes, but only “disclosed a seven-line summary of Ms. Yates statement six months after Mr. Flynn’s plea.”

Following Strzok’s questioning of Flynn, he exchanged more texts with Page: “Describe the feeling, nervousness, excitement knowing we had just heard him denying it all. Knowing we’d have to pivot into asking. Puzzle round and round about it. Talk about the funny details. Remember what I said that made Andy laugh and ask if he really said that.”

The texts also confirmed Strzok did not believe Flynn thought he was lying: “Also have some faith in and my assessment. . . . I’m finding it hard to go out on a counterintuitive yet strongly felt ledge with so many competent voices expressing what I feel too: bullsh*t – that doesn’t make sense. [] I made some joke about what F said. Something patriotic or military.” Page responded: “It was clear that you both walked in and felt very strongly, so that obviously counts for something. [] You made a joke about a military band.”

A sealed statement from Strzok confirmed that the “agents did three briefings the day of the interview,” and that Strzok had reported that Flynn “had a sure demeanor, and he was telling the truth or believed he was—even though he did not remember it all.” This led the FBI and DOJ to then write “an internal memo dated January 30, 2017, exonerating Mr. Flynn of acting as an ‘agent of Russia’” and expressing no concern of a possible Logan Act violation.

*** Then the Switch on the 302

But then things change.

“On February 10, 2017, the news broke—attributed to ‘senior intelligence officials’—that Mr. Flynn had discussed sanctions with Ambassador Kislyak, contrary to what Vice President Pence had said on television previously.” Following this leak, “overnight,” Flynn’s 302 was changed—and substantively so. “Those changes added an unequivocal statement that ‘FLYNN stated he did not’—in response to whether Mr. Flynn had asked Kislyak to vote in a certain manner or slow down the UN vote.”

“This is a deceptive manipulation” Powell highlighted, “because, as the notes of the agents show, Mr. Flynn was not even sure he had spoken to Russia/Kislyak on this issue. He had talked to dozens of countries.” The overnight changes to the 302 also included the addition of a line, indicating Flynn had been questioned on whether “KISLYAK described any Russian response to a request by FLYNN.”

But the agent’s notes do not include that question or answer, Powell stressed, yet it was later made into the criminal offense charges against Flynn. And “the draft also shows that the agents moved a sentence to make it seem to be an answer to a question it was not,” Powell added.

Then, the day after those changes were made, Strzok texted Page asking: “Also, is Andy good with F 302?” Page replied: “Launch f302.” Simultaneously, David Laufman in the National Security Division of DOJ, called Flynn’s law firm, Covington and Burling, to pressure them to file the FARA registration form for Flynn Intel Group. Those FARA registration forms would later be used to press Flynn to plead guilty.

*** Ties to Collusion against President Trump

The timeline continued to May 10 when McCabe opened an “obstruction” investigation into President Trump. That same day, Powell writes, “in an important but still wrongly redacted text, Strzok says: ‘We need to lock in [redacted]. In a formal chargeable way. Soon.’” Page replies: “I agree. I’ve been pushing and I’ll reemphasize with Bill [Priestap].”

Powell argues that “both from the space of the redaction, its timing, and other events, the defense strongly suspects the redacted name is Flynn.” That timing includes Robert Mueller’s appointment as special counsel on May 17, and then the reentering of Flynn’s 302 on May 31, 2017, “for Special Counsel Mueller to use.”

That final Flynn 302 shows yet another inconsistency from the notes turned over to Powell. Both agents’ notes state: “Flynn does not remember making four to five calls to Ambassador Kislyak from the Dominican Republic, where he was on vacation, but that if he did so, it was because phone service was poor and he kept getting dropped. ‘I don’t remember making 4-5 calls. If I did lousy place to call.’” Yet, Powell stressed, the final 302 stated the opposite: “Flynn remembered making four to five calls that day about this issue, but that the Dominican Republic was a difficult place to make a call as he kept having connectivity issues.”

Powell pieced together this timeline and this disturbing evidence of a government out to destroy a man only after Flynn pleaded guilty and without benefit of the exculpatory evidence the prosecution was required to provide. And that’s a problem, Powell argues: “Neither Mr. Flynn nor his former counsel had any of these documents or knowledge of the plethora of information discussed above when Mr. Flynn entered his plea.”

Federal prosecutors attempt to sidestep this problem by stressing that Flynn was represented by Covington and Burling, but that does not excuse the government’s withholding of evidence Judge Sullivan had ordered turned over, Powell stresses. As a backstop, Powell highlights that Covington and Burling had a conflict-of-interest that Flynn could not waive.

How Judge Sullivan will rule on Powell’s motion to compel and motion for sanctions is unclear. But as Powell said in the opening of her reply brief, she has “made clear from her first appearance, [that] Mr. Flynn will ask this Court to dismiss the entire prosecution based on the outrageous and un-American conduct of law enforcement officials and the subsequent failure of the prosecution to disclose this evidence— which it had in its possession all along—either in a timely fashion or at all.”


https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/25/sidney-powell-drops-bombshell-sho
wing-how-the-fbi-trapped-michael-flynn
/
It looks to me like in two places the FBI changed Flynn's responses from "I don't remember" to "I DO remember", and withheld those notes from his atty. They also withheld their assessment that Flynn was telling the truth, or believed he was telling the truth. This assessment is significant because FBI interviewers are trained to detect lying, that's a large part of their skillset and they take great pride in being human lie detectors.

Anybody notice Deep State DoJ Lawyer David Laufman was deeply embroiled in Railroading Mike Flynn, and is now the Expert for Perpetually Perplexed Rachel Madcow who explains that he really really really is not the Man Behind The Curtain?
See Sig's post above regarding Madcow.

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Friday, November 1, 2019 1:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I made a prediction that as the walls cloed in on the deep state, the narrative would change from "there is no such thing as a deep state" to "Yes, there is a deep state and thank god it is there to depose an elected Presdient", and sure enough ...




Quote:

"Thank God For The Deep State": Intel Agents Admit They Want To "Take Out" Trump

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/thank-god-deep-state-intel-traitor
s-admit-they-want-take-out-trump


I also predicted that flea-brained liberals would do a 180 on the topic of the deep state, right long with the media, and never notice that they have (once again) been taken for yet another ride. There is no memory so short as one that can be willingly erased.



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Friday, November 1, 2019 4:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


They'd already done that months or even years ago.

Democrats have never been the party of coming to the defense of the Alphabet Agencies until this presidency.


John Bolton himself is just about one step away from being a 2019 Democrat hero. (Which I've already predicted could happen)

Crazy times we're living in.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, November 1, 2019 6:10 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I know I've mentioned this many times already - but the first time I was dumbstruck about how willing Americans are to be shilled was after 9/11 - when dubya decided bin Laden wasn't important anymore, and just about the whole country pivoted frictionlessly - like a well-oiled weather vane in the slightest zephyr - to Hussein. It's not like it was something done in secret, or subtly over a long time. It was brazen, right there in the open, and in-your-face.

To this day, even having noticed it in real time, and having seen it repeated over and over since then, I still don't get how people are so brainless.

SURELY - I keep thinking with wonderment - they'll remember what they were so hot about just last week! and notice that it's mysteriously vanished.

But apparently their memories are as long as a news item, and their thoughts as shallow as the breathless narratives poured into their ears.

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Monday, November 4, 2019 12:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


In the now NOT so "secret" deep-state/M$M war against Trump ...

Quote:

> [Lt.Col. Vindman] told lawmakers that he was deeply troubled by what he interpreted as an attempt by the president to subvert U.S. foreign policy and an improper attempt to coerce a foreign government into investigating a U.S. citizen. < - WaPo


Quote:

SUBVERT: verb
To overthrow or destroy (a government or an established order or authority). synonym: overthrow.
To undermine, overturn, or render ineffective (a rule or an established notion, such as a stereotype, for example).
transitive verb
To cause to serve a purpose other than the original or established one; commandeer or redirect.



Uh, is it not the President's authority to SET foreign policy?? How can a President "subvert" something that s/he is supposed to have control over? WaPo should have pointed that out! But since they're against Trump, they apparently agree with the idea that it's the deep state that should set foreign policy.

Similar in NYT
Quote:

> Any involvement by Mr. Patel in Ukraine issues would signal another attempt by Mr. Trump’s political loyalists to go around American policymakers to shape policy toward Kiev. - NYT<


Hello? WHO, exactly, are the "American policymakers", if not the President?

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

Talk about shaping a narrative!!







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Monday, November 4, 2019 3:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Speaking of shredding the Constitution ... since when did unelected employees make policy? Didn't the framers of the Constitution create a three-headed system whereby they restrain each other? If so, who restrains the deep state?

Do you want the deep state to win?

Be careful what you wish for.

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Tuesday, November 5, 2019 8:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I thought I'd put this here, since it's an indisputable example of the deM$M united in a singular goal:

Sen. Rand Paul Corrects Reporter: It Is Not Illegal For Media To Name The Whistleblower

REPORTER: The whistleblower laws protect the whistleblower. You know it's illegal to out a whistleblower?

SEN. RAND PAUL: Actually, you see you've got that wrong too.

REPORTER: No, we don't.

RAND PAUL: You should work on the facts. The whistleblower statute protects the whistleblower from having his name revealed by the inspector general. Even The New York Times admits that no one else is under any legal obligation.


The other point, and you need to be really careful if you really are interested in the news, is the whistleblower actually is a material witness completely separate from being a whistleblower because he worked for Joe Biden at the same time Hunter Biden was receiving $50,000 per month. So the investigation into the corruption of Hunter Biden involves this whistleblower because he was there at the time.

Did he bring up the conflict of interest? Was there a discussion of this? What was his involvement with the relationship between Joe Biden and the prosecutor? There are a lot of questions the whistleblower has to answer.




https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/11/05/sen_rand_paul_corre
cts_reporter_it_is_not_illegal_for_media_to_name_the_whistleblower.html?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation&spotim_referrer=recirculation








A billion flies eat shit.

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Tuesday, November 5, 2019 8:29 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I also spent some time looking up the "whistleblower" specifically.

This may be a reprise of Signy's earlier post.
Quote:




Eric Ciaramella

Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016

Further, Ciaramella (pronounced char-a-MEL-ah) left his National Security Council posting in the White House’s West Wing in mid-2017 amid concerns about negative leaks to the media. He has since returned to CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. “He was accused of working against Trump and leaking against Trump,” said a former NSC official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

Also, Ciaramella huddled for “guidance” with the staff of House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, including former colleagues also held over from the Obama era whom Schiff’s office had recently recruited from the NSC. Schiff is the lead prosecutor in the impeachment inquiry.

And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. “He knows her. He had her in the White House,” said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

Documents confirm the DNC opposition researcher attended at least one White House meeting with Ciaramella in November 2015. She visited the White House with a number of Ukrainian officials lobbying the Obama administration for aid for Ukraine.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/whistleblo
wer_exposed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html


read the full story at the link above


Meanwhile, the news compiler ZH posted both summarized and additional information, with active links to sources.
Quote:

Sperry's revelations:
-> Ciaramella, a registered Democrat and Obama White House holdover, "helped initiate the Russia "collusion" investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election."

-> Ciaramella was detailed over to the National Security Council from the agency in the summer of 2015, working under Susan Rice, President Obama’s national security adviser. He also worked closely with the former vice president.

-> He worked with DNC operative Alexandra Chalupa - inviting her to the White House. Chalupa, "a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government," writes Sperry (which has been documented by Politico and journalist Lee Stranahan). "He knows her. He had her in the White House," said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

-> Documents confirm the DNC opposition researcher attended at least one White House meeting with Ciaramella in November 2015. She visited the White House with a number of Ukrainian officials lobbying the Obama administration for aid for Ukraine.

-> Biden's office invited Ciaramella to an October, 2016 state luncheon hosted for Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi. "Other invited guests included Brennan, as well as then-FBI Director James Comey and then-National Intelligence Director James Clapper."

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/anti-trump-cia-whistleblower-invit
ed-meddling-dnc-operative-obama-white-house-2015

read the entire article at the link above



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Tuesday, November 5, 2019 9:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-ukraine-whistleblower-sudden
ly-wont-testify-lawyers-break-negotiations-house-amid


Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify; Lawyers Break Off Negotiations Amid New Revelations

A CIA officer who filed a second-hand whistleblower complaint against President Trump has gotten cold feet about testifying after revelations emerged that he worked with Joe Biden, former CIA Director John Brennan, and a DNC operative who sought dirt on President Trump from officials in Ukraine's former government.

On Thursday, a top National Security Council official who was present on a July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky testified that he saw nothing illegal about the conversation. "I want to be clear, I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed," said Tim Morrison, former NSC Senior Director for European Affairs who was on the July 25 call between the two leaders.



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-ukraine-whistleblower-agrees
-answer-written-questions-gop-calls-sunday-narrative


Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Agrees To Answer Written Questions; GOP Calls 'Sunday Narrative Ambush'

According to the report, however, Congressional Republicans, say the whistleblower's new offer was nothing more than a ploy to make headlines in a "Sunday narrative ambush" timed for discussion on national morning shows. "I have never received that offer, and I'm the lead Republican," said House minority leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), noting that Nunes hadn't notified him of any letter as of Sunday morning.



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Tuesday, November 5, 2019 11:42 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


The Whistleblower lite a flaming bag of dog poop for Trump to step on.




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Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:40 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




A billion flies eat shit.

Some like it so much, they even post about it.

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Wednesday, November 6, 2019 7:16 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:


A billion flies eat shit.

Some like it so much, they even post about it.

Four very long years ago Trump was promising to make his tax returns available to the public after the auditor was finished, but now he is going to the Supreme Court to keep his tax returns secret. That is why a federal court ruled Trump stepped on a flaming bag of dog poop:

The case concerns a subpoena to Mr. Trump’s accounting firm, Mazars USA. On Monday, the federal appeals court in Manhattan rejected Mr. Trump’s request to block the subpoena, which seeks eight years of his personal and corporate tax returns.
www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/us/politics/trump-tax-returns-supreme-court
.html


Mr. Trump has fought hard to shield his tax returns from scrutiny, for reasons that have been the subject of much speculation. In a footnote to Monday’s decision, Chief Judge Robert A. Katzmann, writing for a unanimous three-judge panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, said that Mr. Trump’s break with his predecessors’ practice was significant.

“We note that the past six presidents, dating back to President Carter, all voluntarily released their tax returns to the public,” Judge Katzmann wrote. “While we do not place dispositive weight on this fact, it reinforces our conclusion that the disclosure of personal financial information, standing alone, is unlikely to impair the president in performing the duties of his office.”

When the case was argued last month, Judge Katzmann said that he did not expect his court to have the last word. “This case seems bound for the Supreme Court,” he said since Trump stepped on a flaming bag of dog poop.

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Wednesday, November 6, 2019 7:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Four very long years ago Trump was promising to make his tax returns available to the public after the auditor was finished, but now he is going to the Supreme Court to keep his tax returns secret.
Is the auditor finished?

SLOPPY doesn't just eat shit, he likes it so much that he flings it here at this board for other flies to eat.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:06 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Four very long years ago Trump was promising to make his tax returns available to the public after the auditor was finished, but now he is going to the Supreme Court to keep his tax returns secret.
Is the auditor finished?

SLOPPY doesn't just eat shit, he likes it so much that he flings it here at this board for other flies to eat.

Signym, do you really believe every tax return Trump has filed is still being audited? Then Vote Trump!

"Four ways Trump’s tax returns could come to light"
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-taxes-explainer/four-ways-trumps-
tax-returns-could-come-to-light-idUSKBN1XF1L6


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Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:30 AM

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Donald Trump made calls from his cellphone to a former candidate on “The Apprentice” around the same time she says he sexually assaulted her, according to phone records made public Tuesday.

The excerpts from Trump’s Verizon bills over a three-month period show that Trump exchanged calls with Summer Zervos on at least six occasions, including on a day that Trump’s private calendar showed he was at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

That hotel stay is a key part of Zervos’ defamation lawsuit against Trump in New York State Supreme Court. Zervos says that Trump forced himself on her with unwanted kissing and groping while she visited him for lunch in his hotel room.

The records “corroborate (Zervos’) account of the sexual assaults with even more granularity and with a degree of precision that (Zervos) could not have known were she not telling the truth …,” said her lawyer, Mariann Wang.

www.politicususa.com/2019/11/05/trump-phone-records-summer-zervos.html

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Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




A billion flies eat shit.

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Saturday, November 9, 2019 3:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
A billion flies eat shit.

Is Sloppy Seconds still flinging sh!t at the wall of serious threads?
Isn't that what 2-year-olds do?

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Wednesday, November 13, 2019 8:12 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-ukraine-whistleblower-sudden
ly-wont-testify-lawyers-break-negotiations-house-amid


Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Suddenly Won't Testify; Lawyers Break Off Negotiations Amid New Revelations

A CIA officer who filed a second-hand whistleblower complaint against President Trump has gotten cold feet about testifying after revelations emerged that he worked with Joe Biden, former CIA Director John Brennan, and a DNC operative who sought dirt on President Trump from officials in Ukraine's former government.

On Thursday, a top National Security Council official who was present on a July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelensky testified that he saw nothing illegal about the conversation. "I want to be clear, I was not concerned that anything illegal was discussed," said Tim Morrison, former NSC Senior Director for European Affairs who was on the July 25 call between the two leaders.



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-ukraine-whistleblower-agrees
-answer-written-questions-gop-calls-sunday-narrative


Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Agrees To Answer Written Questions; GOP Calls 'Sunday Narrative Ambush'

According to the report, however, Congressional Republicans, say the whistleblower's new offer was nothing more than a ploy to make headlines in a "Sunday narrative ambush" timed for discussion on national morning shows. "I have never received that offer, and I'm the lead Republican," said House minority leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA), noting that Nunes hadn't notified him of any letter as of Sunday morning.

Why won't folk just take what Deep State clowns say at face value?

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Wednesday, November 13, 2019 11:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Epstein didn't commit suicide.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 3:11 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 3:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/11/13/the-latest-false-news-on-t
he-trump-impeachment
/

Why are the Democrats serving up hearsay information?

Trump’s Justice (sic) Department is going to sell him out, and democracy in America will be the casualty.

Neither political party wants the profitable swamp drained.

http://www.stationgossip.com/2019/11/ukrainian-officials-release-recor
ds-of.html

New memos released because of a FOIA lawsuit filed by award-winning investigative reporter John Solomon show Burisma Holdings contacted the Obama State Department several times during the 2016 election to discuss ending the probe.
In fact, Burisma Holdings actually name-dropped Hunter Biden when requesting help from the State Department.
According to CD Media last week former Ukrainian official Oleksandr Onyshchenko said Hunter Biden was receiving “off the books” payments from Burisma in the millions.
On Tuesday CD Media posted leaked records of payments to Hunter Biden from Burisma Holdings totaling millions.
The documents show 46 payments to Hunter Biden’s company from Novembe 2014 to November 2015.
There were 38 payments for $83,333 totaling more than $3.1 million.

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Thursday, November 14, 2019 3:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

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Why are the Democrats serving up hearsay information?



My simple answer to this question would have just been "Because they know no other way." and left it at that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:09 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Apparently Elijah Cummings Died this past week.



Yes. He will be remembered for his legacy of rat infested streets in Baltimore, as well as being a recognized member of the White Power movement, according to the ADL's new rules.





https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/okay-hand-gestur
e


Do Right, Be Right. :)




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