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No collusion* between Trump and Russia. Do you feel better now?

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 20:24
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Saturday, May 11, 2019 12:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Okay, let me get this out of the way: I told you so. The whole RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!COLLUSION!! was a complete hoax, and Maddow and MSNBC, Anderson Cooper and CNN, WaPo, NYT and most of the other legacy M$M were spouting nonsensical tin-foil-hat conspiracy theories nonstop for two and a half years... and you fell for it!

YOU'VE BEEN PWNED.


Take a moment to reflect on what all of that means ... that the media constantly pushed a narrative with critical real-world effects that even they (in private conversation) admitted was a "nothing burger". That dozens of DOJ/WH/NSA/FBI "staffers" leaked fake news to the press. That our security agencies and DOJ diligently engaged in malicious spying and prosecution for political purposes.

Just like the runup to GWB's Iraq invasion and the runup to Obama's Libya invasion, this was a complete psyops on the American people.

And ... YOU'VE BEEN PWNED.

Parts of the malfeasance should come out in the months to come, timed, I'll bet, to influence the 2020 election. It will be one giant clusterfuck of corruption and collusion*, this time between the security agencies, the Obama WH, foreign governments and the DNC.

You should ask yourself how far this collusion* extended, and whether or not this represents a shadow government/deep state/media conspiracy and - most importantly- WHY they would work so hard and so long to depose a sitting President, pushing a story they knew was fake, for years.

And more importantly, you should ask yourself how you got taken in by hysterical fabrication that was relentlessly pushed into your ears 24/7. Was it your partisanship that caused you to believe something that was clearly fake? Your hatred of Trump that lowered your resistance to an obviously bogus narrative? Your general aversion to insisting on EVIDENCE ... indeed, your lack of understanding what "evidence" is, and your inability to distinguish between accusation and fact? Your desire to live in a bubble, where all of your biases are confirmed?

Whatever it was, I hope you take a lesson from it so you don't get fooled again. EVEN IF there is another full-blown propganda campaign launched at us and "everyone" is yammering the same thing at us 24/7.

There are plenty of areas to disagree with Trump's policies, a lot about his personality to be concerned about and his ethics to dislike. But RUSSIA!!!! isn't one of them.

Can we got on with REAL Real World Events now?


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Saturday, May 11, 2019 12:52 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...



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Saturday, May 11, 2019 1:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


OMG!!! Putin sings the Russian National Anthem!!!
Is that somehow significant - to you?

*****

I guess REAL Real World Events are still too much for you to handle? Your head still in Fakeland?
Come back when you feel better.


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Saturday, May 11, 2019 1:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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It has been a rough month, hasn't it?

1.5 Billion has been secured from the Pentagon for the border wall.

Trump is polling at 45% on the aggregate for the first time since April 2017.

CNN's viewership down so hard that they lay off 100 people.

Democrat hopefuls still can't find a single message that isn't "We're Not Trump!" Those that do are so fringe left that they'll never get a single vote from anybody undecided if they were to run against Trump in 2020.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 11, 2019 4:04 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Okay, let me get this out of the way: I told you so. The whole RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!COLLUSION!! was a complete hoax, and Maddow and MSNBC, Anderson Cooper and CNN, WaPo, NYT and most of the other legacy M$M were spouting nonsensical tin-foil-hat conspiracy theories nonstop for two and a half years... and you fell for it!

YOU'VE BEEN PWNED.


Take a moment to reflect on what all of that means ... that the media constantly pushed a narrative with critical real-world effects that even they (in private conversation) admitted was a "nothing burger". That dozens of DOJ/WH/NSA/FBI "staffers" leaked fake news to the press. That our security agencies and DOJ diligently engaged in malicious spying and prosecution for political purposes.

Just like the runup to GWB's Iraq invasion and the runup to Obama's Libya invasion, this was a complete psyops on the American people.

And ... YOU'VE BEEN PWNED.

Parts of the malfeasance should come out in the months to come, timed, I'll bet, to influence the 2020 election. It will be one giant clusterfuck of corruption and collusion*, this time between the security agencies, the Obama WH, foreign governments and the DNC.

You should ask yourself how far this collusion* extended, and whether or not this represents a shadow government/deep state/media conspiracy and - most importantly- WHY they would work so hard and so long to depose a sitting President, pushing a story they knew was fake, for years.

And more importantly, you should ask yourself how you got taken in by hysterical fabrication that was relentlessly pushed into your ears 24/7. Was it your partisanship that caused you to believe something that was clearly fake? Your hatred of Trump that lowered your resistance to an obviously bogus narrative? Your general aversion to insisting on EVIDENCE ... indeed, your lack of understanding what "evidence" is, and your inability to distinguish between accusation and fact? Your desire to live in a bubble, where all of your biases are confirmed?

Whatever it was, I hope you take a lesson from it so you don't get fooled again. EVEN IF there is another full-blown propganda campaign launched at us and "everyone" is yammering the same thing at us 24/7.

There are plenty of areas to disagree with Trump's policies, a lot about his personality to be concerned about and his ethics to dislike. But RUSSIA!!!! isn't one of them.

Can we got on with REAL Real World Events now?

Once the Low-Information Voter of 2018 comes to realize that they were completely duped and they Voted foolishly because they were gullible (and predictably so), how much do you think this will affect the voting in 2020? Nationally, locally, "news" coverage, viewership of Real News and/or now-proven Fake News? Backlash? Pendulum swinging? Boomerang?

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Saturday, May 11, 2019 6:56 PM

JONGSSTRAW


The Trump Era of peace and prosperity is upon us. Hey, I just bought a new car! Oooh that new car smell! .. smells like another Trump victory!

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Saturday, May 11, 2019 8:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Well... I wouldn't go that far.

In reality, everything sucks just about as hard as it did in the Obama years. Nobody is going to turn the ship around in only two years that has been sailing the wrong way for at least 16 years before it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 11, 2019 9:25 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Okay, let me get this out of the way: I told you so. The whole RUSSIA!!RUSSIA!!COLLUSION!! was a complete hoax, and Maddow and MSNBC, Anderson Cooper and CNN, WaPo, NYT and most of the other legacy M$M were spouting nonsensical tin-foil-hat conspiracy theories nonstop for two and a half years... and you fell for it!

YOU'VE BEEN PWNED.


Take a moment to reflect on what all of that means ... that the media constantly pushed a narrative with critical real-world effects that even they (in private conversation) admitted was a "nothing burger". That dozens of DOJ/WH/NSA/FBI "staffers" leaked fake news to the press. That our security agencies and DOJ diligently engaged in malicious spying and prosecution for political purposes.

Just like the runup to GWB's Iraq invasion and the runup to Obama's Libya invasion, this was a complete psyops on the American people.

And ... YOU'VE BEEN PWNED.

Parts of the malfeasance should come out in the months to come, timed, I'll bet, to influence the 2020 election. It will be one giant clusterfuck of corruption and collusion*, this time between the security agencies, the Obama WH, foreign governments and the DNC.

You should ask yourself how far this collusion* extended, and whether or not this represents a shadow government/deep state/media conspiracy and - most importantly- WHY they would work so hard and so long to depose a sitting President, pushing a story they knew was fake, for years.

And more importantly, you should ask yourself how you got taken in by hysterical fabrication that was relentlessly pushed into your ears 24/7. Was it your partisanship that caused you to believe something that was clearly fake? Your hatred of Trump that lowered your resistance to an obviously bogus narrative? Your general aversion to insisting on EVIDENCE ... indeed, your lack of understanding what "evidence" is, and your inability to distinguish between accusation and fact? Your desire to live in a bubble, where all of your biases are confirmed?

Whatever it was, I hope you take a lesson from it so you don't get fooled again. EVEN IF there is another full-blown propganda campaign launched at us and "everyone" is yammering the same thing at us 24/7.

There are plenty of areas to disagree with Trump's policies, a lot about his personality to be concerned about and his ethics to dislike. But RUSSIA!!!! isn't one of them.

Can we got on with REAL Real World Events now?

You have asterisk in your title, but no matching asterisk with explanation in your OP.

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Saturday, May 11, 2019 9:26 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well... I wouldn't go that far.

In reality, everything sucks just about as hard as it did in the Obama years. Nobody is going to turn the ship around in only two years that has been sailing the wrong way for at least 16 years before it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


When the Donald is in the White House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then Trump will guide the country
And Hillary will be behind bars.

This is the dawning of the Age of Trumpquarius
Age of Trumpquarius
Trumpquarius!
Trumpquarius!

No harmony or understanding
No sympathy, no trust abounding
A lot more falsehoods and derisions
Libtards living dreams of visions
Mueller's no collusion revelation
And the media's hilarious exasperation.

Trumpquarius!
Trumpquarius!

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Saturday, May 11, 2019 9:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

You have asterisk in your title, but no matching asterisk with explanation in your OP.
Oh, that's because liberaloids here object to the term "collusion" (as in. "there's no such crime as 'collusion'") despite the fact that they'e been using the term since whenever.

I use "collusion" as shorthand for "conspire or coordinate".

*****

JONGSSTRAW: Very clever!
I have a ?? for you: Who is your avatar? I feel like it's somebody I should know, but can't remember.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Tuesday, May 21, 2019 6:47 AM

REAVERFAN


Russian documents reveal desire to sow racial discord — and violence — in the U.S.
The revelations come as U.S. intelligence agencies have warned of probable Russian meddling in the 2020 election.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-documents-reveal-desire-sow
-racial-discord-violence-u-s-n1008051


Sieg heil, comrade.

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Saturday, May 25, 2019 1:46 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


MORE made-up shit from the M$M? You didn't have enuogh made-up shit already with the previous "dossier"?

From your link, REAVERBOT:

Quote:

The documents were obtained through the Dossier Center, a London-based investigative project funded by Russian opposition figure Mikhail Khodorkovsky. NBC News has not independently verified the materials, but forensic analysis by the Dossier Center appeared to substantiate the communications.
Oh yeah, these "documents" from the "dossier center" are true because ... the "dossier center" tells us so!



Quote:

The documents contained proposals for several ways to further exacerbate racial discord in the future, including a suggestion to recruit African Americans and transport them to camps in Africa “for combat prep and training in sabotage.” Those recruits would then be sent back to America to foment violence and work to establish a pan-African state in the South, particularly in South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana.
Seriously??? Do you have a "gullibility" subrountine that kicks in any time someone posts a story that's so outrageously improbable that it should be immediately laughed off the internet?

Jeez, you're stupid. It's hard to believe that you aren't some sort of pro-Trumper masquerading as a liberal because you do such a great job discrediting the liberloid POV.

For god's sake, ask for an upgrade. And stop posting about serious topics like climate change because with YOUR record of stupidity nobody could possibly take you seriously.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Tuesday, May 28, 2019 8:24 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
MORE made-up shit from the M$M? You didn't have enuogh made-up shit already with the previous "dossier"?

From your link, REAVERBOT:
Quote:

The documents were obtained through the Dossier Center, a London-based investigative project funded by Russian opposition figure Mikhail Khodorkovsky. NBC News has not independently verified the materials, but forensic analysis by the Dossier Center appeared to substantiate the communications.
Oh yeah, these "documents" from the "dossier center" are true because ... the "dossier center" tells us so!
Quote:

The documents contained proposals for several ways to further exacerbate racial discord in the future, including a suggestion to recruit African Americans and transport them to camps in Africa “for combat prep and training in sabotage.” Those recruits would then be sent back to America to foment violence and work to establish a pan-African state in the South, particularly in South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana.
Seriously??? Do you have a "gullibility" subrountine that kicks in any time someone posts a story that's so outrageously improbable that it should be immediately laughed off the internet?

Jeez, you're stupid. It's hard to believe that you aren't some sort of pro-Trumper masquerading as a liberal because you do such a great job discrediting the liberloid POV.

For god's sake, ask for an upgrade. And stop posting about serious topics like climate change because with YOUR record of stupidity nobody could possibly take you seriously.

The flavor of Koolaid you drink is apparently not the same as what they serve in Russia to these Trolls.

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