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Jeffrey Epstein, Billionaire Accused of Molesting, Is Charged with Human Trafficking of Minors

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Sunday, July 14, 2019 7:49 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


It’s not surprising to see the sprawling Epstein case recast as one more arena for Republicans and Democrats to take potshots at one another, but it’s a confirmation of how easily horrific crimes against women are weaponized for political score-settling.

Noah Shachtman of the Daily Beast, one of the first outlets to report Epstein’s arrest, issued a cynical tweet : “I’m seeing lots of folks on the left and the right who seem absolutely sure that Epstein is going to give up their political enemies. Hot tip: he’s just as likely to give up your allies.”

Predictably, Fox News personalities have been so eager to blame Epstein’s sweetheart plea deal on Barack Obama that they haven’t bothered to check whether he was president at the time. (Spoiler: He was not.)

Epstein’s indictment may end up implicating big names other than the ones we already know. The fact that people on “the other side” may have been enablers of and participants in Epstein’s crimes does not make enablers and participants on “our side” any less guilty — and vice versa.

www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/which-side-does-the-epstein-case-benefi
t-more-who-cares/2019/07/12/27e23c3c-a35d-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, July 14, 2019 8:57 AM

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Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:35 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
blah blah blah ... both sides are sharpening their knives ... more blah blah blah ... not Obama ... blah blah ... might be some democrats ...

fify

Getting everyone ready for some democrats to go down?




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:42 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


The Aircraft numbers
Also the Maxwell woman is moving stuff by boat and has a Submarine drivers permit, WTF a Submarine

This is getting weird like the bads guy from a Bond movie

Judge Berman?
Epstein filed a motion to seal his submitted financial records. The prosecution had no objections and the judge granted it immediately.

Alan Dershowitz on Jeffrey Epstein: "I was introduced to him by the lady Rothschild"
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=of57iKZMobg

https://invidio.us/watch?v=of57iKZMobg

a Billionaire that no one on Wall Street had any knowledge of. He never invested with the big funds and only one major investor of his was ever identified. It's much more likely he was right through blackmail.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/hedge-funders-have-some-thought
s-on-what-epstein-was-doing.html


...this is possibly connected to some big players, possibly Israeli and Mossad, the Temple is setting off a bunch of Freemason Conspiracy and of course you have business people, hollywood and the British Connection, you have Saudi and Qatar near the sleaze, a French model group and a guy abusing minors, a bunch of Russian East European girls trafficked and Big Money the Crown Family and a Perverted Prince Andrew ...who would want to cover it up and have the power to suppress info?

The locals, some possibly working illegally, they have called it 'Pedo Island' for many years

Aircraft Tail Numbers are a Finger Print, there are No Two Alike

and yet there are 3 aircraft with the same tail number, a Larger Aircraft, a smaller Airplane and a Helicopter on that island?
Flight logs for Epstein were posted on Gawker.

The article:

https://gawker.com/flight-logs-put-clinton-dershowitz-on-pedophile-bil
lio-1681039971


The flight manifests:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifes
ts.html


If you search at the FAA site, you can find information based on a plane's tail number ID.

https://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/

An August 6, 2002 flight lists a plane with the ID: N474AW.

Serial Number 155488 Certificate Issue Date 10/21/1997 Manufacturer Name ROCKWELL Mode S Code (base 8 / oct) 51350013 Model OV-10D Mode S Code (base 16 / hex) A5D00B Year Manufacturer None Cancel Date 05/14/2010 Reason for Cancellation Cancelled Export To None Type Registration Government

Aircraft Registration prior to Deregistration Name UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE Street 1038 S PATRICK DR # 985 City PATRICK AFB State FLORIDA Zip Code 32925-3516 County BREVARD Country UNITED STATES

Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, who has been accused of trafficking underage females.... https:// www. youtube. com / watch?v=vgNCKBXNwaQYouTube, shared the tail number of his Bell Long Ranger 206L3 helicopter (tail number N474AW) with a U.S. State Department OV-10D Bronco.

According to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) registration database, Epstein’s Bell helicopter and the Bronco owned by the U.S. State Department and contracted to the private military company Dyncorp for “counter-insurgency” and “counter-narcotics” operations in Larandia, Colombia used the same N474AW tail number.

Search “Dyncorp” - http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief2.aspx?ev_id=20001212X
20545&ntsbno=MIA00GA083&akey=1
/ http://archive.is/IGqas

According to a flight manifest filed by Epstein’s pilot David Rodgers on August 6, 2002, the Bell helicopter (N474AW) flew from Epstein’s Zorro Ranch in New Mexico to the Double Eagle II airport outside of Albuquerque.

Complicating matters, is the fact that a Cessna Model P210N aircraft also uses tail number N474AW. That aircraft, according to FAA records, was registered with the tail number N474AW on August 1, 2014 and is owned by Centurion Aviation LLC, 677 Greentree Lane, Ada, Michigan.

The previous plane listed by the FAA as a “Multiple Record” N474AW assignee was the Bronco used by Dyncorp under contract to the owner: “United States Department of State, 1038 S. Patrick Drive #985, Patrick Air Force Base, Brevard County, Florida 32925-3516.” The Bronco was reported by the FAA to be registered on October 21, 1997 and de-registered on May 14, 2010. However, the Bronco registered as N474AW crashed while flying a drug eradication mission in Colombia on February 6, 2006. The name of the pilot, who survived but was badly injured after ejecting, was not released due to “national security” reasons.

Rodgers’s manifest for August 6, 2002 lists the Bell helicopter flight from Epstein’s Zorro Ranch to Double Eagle II as flying under the tail number of N474AW. It is also noteworthy that unlike other Epstein planes piloted by Rodgers and which included as passengers Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, model Naomi Campbell, Clinton economic adviser Ira Magaziner, actor Kevin Spacey, Sandy Berger, and Larry Summers, no passengers are listed on the Zorro to Double Eagle one-way helicopter flight.

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?omni=Home-N-
Number&nNumberTxt=N474AW
/ http://archive.is/728wp

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifes
ts.html
/ http://archive.is/Of47V

FAA records and Epstein’s pilot’s flight manifest indicate that Epstein’s Bell helicopter used the same tail number of N474AW. This was the same tail number used until 2006 by State Department contractor Dyncorp for counter-insurgency operations in Latin America.

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Harpazo, I've found an anomaly ~ JE's flight logs ~ one of the characters on that list - Daniel Bodini (coincidentally, helicopter pilot & frequently flew JE & Elite Guests between airport & Pedo Isle).

N474AW

Anomaly: Tail No used MULTIPLE AIRCRAFT

SINCE BEEN GOOGLE SCRUBBED
Here's the RUB:

That tail number - N474AW - corresponds to the following:

Epstein's, Bell Long Ranger Helicopter model 206L3, @ Zorro Ranch
Cesna (piston, reciprocating)
US State Dept., Air Bronco (tasked to Bosnia Theater, 2000-2002)
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1149424067654619137.html
SAME TAIL NUMBER ~ ALL!!
Photo 1 - Cesna
Photo 2 - Air Bronco

TASKED TO BOSNIA through DYNCOR!!!!!!!
Photo 3 - Bell Long Ranger

Now, here is where it gets WEIRD:

This was NOT the helicopter used to transport Dignitaries (like WJC or Tom Hanks) ~ this was the low budget affair used to transport the hired help (kids) and the Males 1, 2, 3 and Females 1,2,3,4~

The disappeared.
So, I've been trying to reconcile these IMPOSSIBLE FACTS & I ran into this:

According to FAA - Cesna Model P210N officially uses the tail # N474AW.

It looks like the 'plates have been switched' [common Mafia Tactic ].


https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/forums/amp/OtherGround/Theory-That-Ep
stein-Was-an-FBI-or-CIA-Asset:2781165-6

The congruence of Epstein's Bell N474AW and Dyncorp's Bronco N474AW is noteworthy. In 2002, the year Epstein's aircraft fleet stands accused of flying underage teen girls, some between the ages of 12 and 15, coincides with Dyncorp's trafficking in underage females between the ages of 12 and 15 from Kosovo and Bosnia in the Balkans. One Dyncorp whistleblower reported to The Washington Times's Insight magazine's Kelly O'Meara in 2002 the following on one Dyncorp employee in Bosnia: "[he] owned a girl who couldn't have been more than 14 years old. It's a sick sight anyway to see any grown man [having sex] with a child, but to see some 45-year-old man who weighs 400 pounds with a little girl, it just makes you sick."

https:// steemit.com /pizzagate/ @rebelskum/ aircraft-n-number-n474aw-shared-by-jeffrey-epstein-dyncorp-the-state-department-and-the-cia
A special report on Occurrences: Foreign and Domestic identifies the fact that one of Jeffrey Epstein's suspected trafficking aircraft shared the same tail number (N474AW) as a State Department Bronco used under contract by DynCorp. The use of this tail number by the Department of State and DynCorp can be corroborated by official government records


Jean Luc Brunel supplied models, Kevin Spacey (again), Woody Allen? Chris Tucker
Les Wexner, model / clothling Stock market crash? Leslie Wexner, founder and CEO of L Brands, parent company of Victoria's Secret, saw his net worth shrink by $53 million ... is there something connecting, the island again? models and Epstein?
The Kubrick Conspiracy, Eyes Wide Shut Stuff? Victoria’s Secret was some kind of sex trafficking business front as well?

George Aref Nader is a Lebanese-American businessman, lobbyist, and convicted sex offender. He has acted as an unofficial liaison between Washington politicians and Middle Eastern officials.
Nader is an adviser to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan of the United Arab Emirates and a consultant to Blackwater founder Erik Prince.

Nader has been charged with multiple crimes involving the sexual exploitation of minors, and convicted of several of them. A 1985 charge of receiving from the Netherlands films and magazines depicting pre- and post-pubescent boys engaged in sexual acts, was dismissed due to an invalid search warrant. A federal court in Virginia in 1991 gave him a six-month sentence on a felony charge of transporting from Germany, pornographic videotapes of boys about 13 or 14 years old. Prosecutors agreed to put the case under seal "due to the extremely sensitive nature of Mr. Nader’s work in the Middle East."

In 2003, he was convicted in Prague, Czech Republic for sexually abusing ten boys, for which he served one year in prison

On June 3, 2019, Nader was arrested by federal agents for possession of child pornography as well as bestiality

Kit Laybourne worked for Nickelodeon, and Geraldine Laybourne created Nickelodeon and later became president of Disney are both listed on the Jeffrey Epstein flight logs.

https://twitter.com/SavingAmerica4U/status/1148595745345482752

On 16 April 2019, a new accuser, Maria Farmer, went public and filed a sworn affidavit in federal court in New York, saying that she had been sexually assaulted and her then-15-year-old sister had been molested by Epstein and his companion, Ghislaine Maxwell, in 1996

The weird temple from Babylon?
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/whats-the-deal-with-the-bizarre-t
emple-like-structure-on-jeffrey-epsteins-private-island
/

Epstein had ties to a children's art camp in Michigan:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-had-his-own-lodge-at-int
erlochens-prestigious-arts-camp-for-kids-in-michigan


Sam Hyde post
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz18lnFgpQC/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/12/trump-issues-jeffrey-ep
stein-challenge-press-find
-/
Trump issues Jeffrey Epstein challenge to press: 'Find out the people that went to the island'

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Sunday, July 14, 2019 11:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:
blah blah blah ... both sides are sharpening their knives ... more blah blah blah ... not Obama ... blah blah ... might be some democrats ...

fify

Getting everyone ready for some democrats to go down?




Any day that a politician of any flavor gets theirs is a happy day for me.

This should be all sorts of fun to watch.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:10 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Sunday, July 14, 2019 1:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SIX
It's not just the politicians who need to have an investigatory expedition up their asses, it's the deep state: Those CIA/State Department/ semi-official mercs/spec ops/ NSA and foreign intelligence assets who run drugs, money, weapons, and (apparently) children to fund their black ops. The politicians are just there to distract us with their Punch n Judy show.

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JAYNZETOWN
It would help if you would put some effort into collating your posts into a readable narrative instead of dumping confetti.

If I understand your tail number posts correctly, it goes like this:

1997-2010
There was one plane, registered with the State Dept, Patrick AFB, FL. A Rockwell OV-10D Bronco twin turboprop with a distinct "stirrup" tail structure, normally used as a light combat and observation plane. This plane was found to be in Bosnia 2000-2002 used by DynaCorp (which IIRC was a subsidiary of Halliburton), and Dynacorp was revealed to have been buying and selling young girls at its operations. The plane next comes into view as having crashed in Colombia in 2006 during "antidrug" operations. The plane was officially deregistered in 2010.

2002
During this time period, a Bell Helicopter with the same tail number was manifested as having flown from Epstein's Zorro Ranch in NMto Double Eagle.

2014 A Cessna P210N was registerd with the same tail number is August of that year.

Now, I don't know if the FAA "recycles" its tail numbers, or permanently retires them once a plane is deregistered, but given the small number of characters in the tail number format, my guess is that they recycle them. So the Cessna is probably not at all connected with any of this other stuff, and it just a legitimate registration with a number that has an unfortunate history.

The fact that Epstein helicopter used a tail number in 2002 that was already in use (in Bosian at the time) is a little hard to explain. I understand "switching plates", but why use a plate from an aircraft that was already implicated in one crime (in Bosnia) for (potentially) the commission of another crime? Instead of hiding the identity of the aircraft with the duplicate tail number, haven't you just created a link bewteen criminal operators?

In any case, I'd be interested in knowing why it took so long to deregister that number (2010) when the aircraft supposedly crashed in 2006. Bureaucratic intertia? Something else? Would be interesting to know if that number was used any time between 2006 and 2010.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Sunday, July 14, 2019 3:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX
It's not just the politicians who need to have an investigatory expedition up their asses, it's the deep state: Those CIA/State Department/ semi-official mercs/spec ops/ NSA and foreign intelligence assets who run drugs, money, weapons, and (apparently) children to fund their black ops. The politicians are just there to distract us with their Punch n Judy show.



Well yeah... but that's never going to happen.

The only reason this is all going down now is because either he's no longer necessary, or they're sacrificing him to get to a bigger fish. If that fish is Trump, who knows who else they're going to be willing to throw under the bus by the time this is done.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


My thoughts:

I think Acosta got 'the word' many years ago to go lightly on Epstein, and he was being a good soldier now by resigning.

The biggest logic gap for me in the sequence of events is why Epstein got away with it for so long. It's not as if he was some unknown, isolated figure with few associates operating in complete obscurity. Epstein was a high profile, high level, well connected, international figure.

And many countries and states (like NY) could have gone after Epstein. After all he was located in Florida, in NY and in the (US) Virgin Islands; the girls were from all over the planet; and so were Epstein's 'guests', like Prince Andrew. It wasn't ALL up to the Feds/Florida and ONLY the Feds/Florida; and nobody else.

The fact that he was untouched for so long by literally every other legal system on this entire planet speaks volumes to me. If not Mossad, then there is some other quasi/international involvement and agreement to keep dirty laundry hidden.

I forget who suggested his business was extortion, but I agree. But I've also heard the theory (and it makes sense to me) that the Bohemian Grove, Epstein's island, and similar places are places by design where politicians and leaders are compromised, to yoke them to the will of others. Call it extortion with a power payoff.

I have little hope that anybody involved will see justice from this. All the machinery will be hidden, the protected will still be protected ... but the targets will be hung from the yardarm as examples of awful individuals, individually-acting on their individual perversions, absent a larger scheme.


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Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:17 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Who was backing him?

I have read all kinds of rumors from Freemasons to the British Crown / Prince to Israel / Mossad to some kind of dark wicked underground 'Deep State'

A 4 yr old article by the Guardian mentions the Prince
Quote:


Jeffrey Epstein: inside the decade of scandal entangling Prince Andrew
This article is more than 4 years old
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/10/jeffrey-epstein-decade-s
candal-prince-andrew

How a telephone call set off a cascade of FBI investigations, secret plea deals and lawsuits from Palm Beach, Florida, to Buckingham Palace as questions resurface over whether the disgraced financier used his wealth and power to elude justice


Seemed to connect with most of the fashion world
https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-scoops/jeffrey-epstein-child-sex-
trafficking-president-trump-les-wexner-links-1203217625
/
According to court documents released by the U.S. District Court of the Southern District of New York, Epstein, who was arrested on July 6, is being charged with one count of sex trafficking of minors and one count of conspiracy to engage in sex trafficking of minors between 2002 and 2005 in New York and Florida. If convicted, he faces a maximum prison sentence of 45 years.

While information on Epstein’s business ventures and earnings are scant so far, the money manager and former Wall Street trader had many dealings within the fashion and media spaces, notably with Victoria’s Secret owner Leslie H. Wexner. Epstein managed Wexner’s finances for more than two decades, along with those of Jean-Luc Brunel, who has been accused of supplying underage girls through his modeling agency, MC2, to Epstein in a 2015 lawsuit against Epstein by a victim.

What Is The Lolita Express?
https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-lolita-express-bill-clinton-f
light-logs-1448367

Before the Lolita Express had its nickname, Epstein drew the attention of the media by hosting former president Bill Clinton, along with actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker, on a 2002 tour of Africa with stops in South Africa, Nigeria, Ghana, Rwanda and Mozambique associated with work for the Clinton Foundation. Afterwards, Epstein described Clinton as "the world's greatest politician." Clinton offered a similarly glowing appraisal of Epstein in the same New York Magazine article featuring Trump's famous quote regarding Epstein's predilection for girls "on the younger side."

In 2015, Gawker released the flight logbooks for Epstein's Gulfstream and the Lolita Express 727. Bill Clinton is among the prominent people listed in the flight logs, having took several trips on the Lolita Express with a softcore porn actress listed under "massages" in Epstein's address book, also published by Gawker. Clinton shared eleven flights aboard the Lolita Express with Maxwell and Epstein's former assistant Sarah Kellen, who has been accused in court filings of recruiting young girls, acting as a pimp on Epstein's behalf. On multiple flights, additional women, listed in the flight logs by their first name or the simple descriptor "female," joined Clinton aboard Epstein's plane. A statement released by Clinton's office acknowledges only the African tour

What We Know About Jeffrey Epstein’s Private Jet, the ‘Lolita Express’

Who flew on Epstein’s jet?
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The flight logs, which detailed trips taken between 1997 and 2005, featured several prominent names as well as ones that were misspelled or missing a surname. Some of these included former president Bill Clinton, former national security adviser Sandy Berger, former Colombian president Andrés Pastrana, Naomi Campbell, and former Harvard president Larry Summers, among others. Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s associate and former girlfriend, who is accused of helping to recruit the underage girls, was also present during many of his trips.



https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-lolita-express.html

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Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:39 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

2014 A Cessna P210N was registerd with the same tail number is August of that year.



Thanks for trying to make sense of the stuff I was pulling from feeds and blogs

I knew guys who were in shipping, in aircraft maintence or involved in government / embassy stuff and involved in military, talking to people I am almost certain across this world No Two Aircraft Tail Numbers are A Like

Or No 2 Tail Number Should be the same, it is like a Fingerprint

Yet maybe just maybe there could be a group I don't know let's say the Mi6, a big global military 'Mafia' group, the KGB, Mossad, they might be able to get info. Someone rings them up says that old Yellow Green Aircraft well that's going to be grounded in the hanger for a while, let's use that Tail Number for our moving operation today
Epstein seems to be connected to some high ups
maybe even Corrupt People INSIDE the United States government

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack

The only reason this is all going down now is because either he's no longer necessary



Why does he want house arrest, he has already pissed off some people saying he will name some names. Maybe he can not suicide himself while under survey inside the jail?


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
My thoughts:

I think Acosta got 'the word' many years ago to go lightly on Epstein, and he was being a good soldier now by resigning.



So perhaps somebody above Acosta, a lobbying group, more powerful? Told him to back off? People now wonder who could that be, or what group

US judge unseals files in case of girl, 17, ' forced to have sex with Prince Andrew '
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-judge-unseals-files-in-case-of-g
irl-17-forced-to-have-sex-with-prince-andrew-9f0v6db5d


Epstein scandal explodes in Israel as ties to former prime minister under scrutiny
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article232658477.html

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Monday, July 15, 2019 7:56 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


So i did a little digging it seems perhaps some type of speculated flight logos or some draft of flight logs have been leaked on the internet,
they were leaked on fringe or kind of conspiracy sites.
I'm not sure if the logs are real but some of the names in them are the very same names we have seen on previous real news articles, some of the names were names seen on conspiracy gossip blogs and some names a new names, people which we have not seen mentioned before. It doesn't mean the Logs are real but it does not mean they are fake either, its just a post or posts like this are going viral on the interwebs


Netanyahu clashes with Barak over Epstein sex trafficking ... the scandal seems to have caused shockwaves inside Israeli internal politics
Jeffrey Epstein was Israeli Intelligence or a Mossad Blackmail scam?

Or the British Royal family was paying out money?

Who are the business people, political elite and celebs. There is a former Colombian ~President named.

Epstein ties to ex-prime minister stir up Israeli politics | Miami Herald
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article232658477.html

It's also possible people might have taken a ride on the Epstien plane but did they fly to the island, maybe not, maybe they went to New York or hitched a ride to Florida or some other place.
I would be suspicious of anyone who was on the plane a lot and or anyone who was still hanging around with Epstein after his conviction as an abuser and sex offender.

Epstein was a regular feature on the gossip site crazy days and nights, ever since Weinstein broke crazy days has all been about abuse, human trafficking, rape all kinds of weird stuff in hollywood and around the world.

I'm pretty sure this list or a list like it will be going viral on gossip forums and twitter etc
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/EPSTEIN-S-TORTURE-ISLAND/5-2237973/

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/218692334/

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message4088502/pg1

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Here allow me to type them out

Jeffery Epstein
Ghislaine Maxwell
Bill Clinton
Kevin Spacey
Chris Tucker
Woody Allen
Larry Summers
Doug Band
Ron Burke
Jean Luc BRUNEL
Andres Pastrana( for Columbia president)
EHUD BARAK
Lawrence Krause
BILL MURRAY
Bill Hammond
Sarah Kellen
Ray Barzanna
Sandy Burger
Andrea Mitrovich
Peter Marino
Shelly Lewis
Paul Hala
Tom Pritzker
Kelly Spamm
Tiffany Gramza
Claire Hazel
Paula Epstein
Mark Epstein
Ralph Ellison
Sophie Biddle
Audrey Raimbault
Shelley Harrison
Melinda Luntz
Gwendolyn Beck
Alberto Pinto
Linda Pinto
Gary Roxbury
Mandy Ellison
Jean Michelle Gathy
VIRGINIA ROBERTS(currently why he was arrested)

Kirsty Rodgers
Greg Holbert
Alyssa Rogers
Juliette Bryant
Heather Mann
Ed Tuttle
Glen Dubin
Ellen Spencer
Chris Wagner
Casey WASSERMAN
Laura WASSERMAN
Paul Mellon
Oliver Sachs
Henrey Rosivsky
LYNN FORESTER DE ROTHCHILD
Joe pagino
NAIOMI CAMPBELL
Nicole Junkermann
Rodney Slater
Natalie Blachon(De Perrier)
Svetlana Griaznova
Emmy Tayler
Larry Visoski
Teala Davies
Juan Pablo Molyneux
Freya Wissing
Adam Perry Lang
Fleur Perry Lang
Caren Casey
Hank Coller
Cindy Lopez
Mark Lloyd
ALAN DERSHOWITZ
SETH GREEN
JAMES GUNN
DAM SCHNEIDER
STEVEN SPIELBERG
TOM HANKS
STEVEN COLBERT
JIMMY KIMMEL

BARAK OBAMA

KATHY GRIFFEN
OPRAH WINFREY
SHAWN CARTER
BEYONCÉ KNOWLES
ANTHONY KIEDAS
JOHN LEGEND
CHRISSY TEIGAN
JIM CARREY
STEVEN TYLER
BEN AFFLECK
STEPHEN COLLINS
WILL FERREL
AKON(Aline damask Badara Thiam)
MARSHALL MATHERS III
JEFFERY JONES
VICTOR SLAVA
MARK COLLINS RECTOR
CHARLIE SHEEN
TYLER GRASHAM
MADONNA CICCONE
KATHERYN HIDSON
STEPHANIE GERMANOTTA
GWEN STEFANI
JAMES FRANCO
WILL SMITH
JOHN CUSACK
ANDERSON COOPER
DEMI MOORE
BRIAN AFFLECK
MERYL STREEP
WANDA SYOES
CHELSEA HANDLER
MICHELLE WOLF
DAVID YAROVESKY( YARVO!)
PHARREL WILLIAMS
QUENTIN TARANTINO
ROBERT DOWNEY JR
COURTNEY LOVE
ALEC BALDWIN


....
the paste bin link has an alphabetical list

Adam Perry Lang
Alan Dershowitz
Alberto Pinto
Alyssa Rodgers
Andrea Mitrovitch
Andres Pastrana
Audrey Raimbault
Bill Clinton
Bill Hammond
Bill Murray
Caren Casey
Casey Wasserman
Chris Tucker
Chris Wagner
Cindy Lopez
Claire Hazel
Doug Band
Ed Tuttle
Ehud Barak
Ellen Spencer
Emmy Tayler
Fleur Perry Lang
Freya (Willemoes) Wissing
Gary Roxburgh
Ghislaine Maxwell
Glenn Dubin
Greg Holbert
Gwendolyn Beck
Hank Coller
Heather Mann
Henry Rosovsky
Jean Luc Brunel
Jean Michelle Gathy
Jeffrey Epstein
Joe Pagano
Juan (pablo) Molyneux
Juliette Bryant
Kelly Spamm
Kevin Spacey
Kristy Rodgers (Kristina R Rodgers)
Larry Summers
Larry Visoski
Laura Wasserman
Lawrence Krauss
Linda Pinto
Lisa Summers
Lynn Forester (de Rothschild)
Magali Blachon (Deperrier)
Mandy Ellison
Mark Epstein
Mark Lloyd
Melinda Luntz
Naomi Campbell
Nicole Junkermann
Oliver Sachs
Paula Epstein
Paul hala
Paul Mellon
Peter Marino
Ralph Ellison
Ray Barzanna
Ricardo Legoretta
Rodney Slater
Ron Burkle
Sandy Burger
Sarah Kellen
Shelley Harrison
Shelley Lewis
Sophie Biddle
Svetlana Griaznova
Teala Davies
Tiffany Gramza
Tom Pritzker
Virginia Roberts
Woody Allen

https://pastebin.com/uA9sg8V1




I think its possible some of the names leaked might be from the 'Black Book' which were not Flight Log but a list of high profile contacts, telephones he had saved.

https://archive.org/stream/EpsteinFlightLogsLolitaExpress/JE-Logs-1-20
_djvu.txt


More Pieces To The Global Deep State Puzzle
https://beforeitsnews.com/v3/blogging-citizen-journalism/2019/2629978.
html


https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/01/blind-item-10-island-update
.html


https://newspunch.com/jeffrey-epstein-the-billionaire-paedophile-with-
links-to-bill-clinton-kevin-spacey-robert-maxwell-and-prince-andrew
/

Over the years, the casually-dressed, globe-trotting financier, who was said to log more than 600 flying hours a year, has been linked with Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker and Manhattan-London society figure Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the late media titan Robert Maxwell.

Epstein reportedly flew Tucker and Spacey to Africa on his private jet as part of a charitable endeavour. Clinton, meanwhile, flew on multiple occasions in the same plane to Epstein’s private Caribbean island, Little St James, between 2002 and 2005 as he developed his philanthropic post-presidential career. It would later be alleged in court that Epstein organised orgies on that same private island in the US Virgin Islands.’


Inside the Victoria’s Secret pipeline to Jeffrey Epstein — “It changed me for life,” she said. “I thought I lived in a hateful world. It was shocking to realize that if I wanted to be a model in America, I was expected to work as a prostitute.”
https://nypost.com/2019/07/14/inside-the-victorias-secret-pipeline-to-
jeffrey-epstein
/

https://nypost.com/2016/10/09/the-sex-slave-scandal-that-exposed-pedop
hile-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein
/
In a 2006 court filing, Palm Beach police noted that a search of Epstein’s home uncovered two hidden cameras. The Mirror reported that in 2015, a 6-year-old civil lawsuit filed by “Jane Doe No. 3,” believed to be the now-married Giuffre, alleged that Epstein wired his mansion with hidden cameras, secretly recording orgies involving his prominent friends and underage girls. The ultimate purpose: blackmail, according to court papers.

...

According to a 2011 court filing by alleged Epstein victim Virginia Roberts Giuffre, she saw Clinton and Prince Andrew on the island but never saw the former president do anything improper. Giuffre has accused Prince Andrew of having sex with her when she was a minor, a charge Buckingham Palace denies.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/who-is-jeffrey-epste
in-a-study-of-the-man-linked-to-worlds-of-celebrity-politics-and-royalty-9954397.html



Acosta's out, and apparently Epstein had ties to a children's art camp in Michigan:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jeffrey-epstein-arrested-for-sex-traffic
king-of-minors.58174/page-32


Jeffrey Epstein’s New Mexico ranch linked to investigation
https://the-fringe.com/thread-jeffrey_epstein_has_been_arrested_for_se
x_trafficking_of_minors?page=59


According to Inside Edition, Chauntae Davies was Epstein’s personal masseuse and became increasingly concerned when she noticed a number of underage girls flying alongside her.
https://www.insideedition.com/what-woman-says-she-saw-while-working-je
ffrey-epsteins-private-jet-54272

“On almost every trip that I did go on there were young girls around,” she said.

Jeffrey Epstein: the billionaire paedophile with links to Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, Robert Maxwell – and Prince Andrew

Many A-list celebrities broke off links with the businessman after he was conviction of having sex with an underage girl

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Monday, July 15, 2019 11:28 AM

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"who are the potential co-conspirators left unnamed and immunized in Epstein's 2007 non-prosecution agreement?"
https://www.newsweek.com/eyes-wide-shut-missing-footage-epstein-kubric
k-death-1449108

In 'Eyes Wide Shut' Stanley Kubrick captured horrors of Jeffrey Epstein era

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Monday, July 15, 2019 2:32 PM

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I worked for a retired politician who had dirt on all sorts of people back when I was 20. I didn't know the exact in's and out's of everything at that time. I was just a kid that was getting paid very well and I didn't ask any questions and just observed. There were times where my boss asked me to take this brown leather bag he had home with me because he didn't want his wife to find it. I never told any of my friends about it, and wouldn't even be talking about it to this day if "they" hadn't already ended the guy's life many years ago.

Inside the bag was a lot of pictures. Pictures of drunk old men living it up on party buses and party boats. Buses and boats that were full of scantily clad younger women from such locations as Costa Rica. Pictures of drunk old men smiling and posing for these pictures with a tit in their mouth, or something else rather juvenile to be actually taking "selfies" of years before smartphones were a thing. It was all played off to me as innocent fun that people with too much money can afford to have, but even as a dumb kid I knew potential blackmail when I saw it.

None of the pictures were explicit beyond topless nudity. No sex tapes or anything like that. But certainly enough evidence to ruin every one of these drunk old POWERFUL men's political careers.

Yes. I recognized every single man in these pictures at the time. Many of them I had met, shook their hand and knew by name.

Were the girls there underage? I'd guess probably not. They certainly weren't underage in Costa Rica or any of the other jurisdictions that these "sports fishing" trips would occur. But as far as blackmail is concerned, that doesn't really matter here. What was in these photographs would be enough to end any one of their lives as they knew it either way and they'd all be working as WalMart greeters today.

But my boss was a junkie on his own drug too. He knocked up one of those girls in Costa Rica. That's a HUGE racket down there. He didn't know he had until one time the next year he was down there he had his passport confiscated, had to submit to a DNA test to verify the child was his, then was only able to leave the country with his passport after signing a whole bunch of ironclad legal documents as the father of the child that came with agreeing to send a whole lot of money that way. I don't know how long he was able to hide that from his first family here, but I'd imagine after all of his assets were frozen and he went to white collar prison for a while, the payments probably stopped and they found out. Up until that day, they had blackmail on him.

Now... why did he go down? He wasn't tied in with the Big Fish they were trying to get at the time. He certainly had some dirt they were interested in and gave him a much shorter sentence than he would have gotten in the twilight of his life for playing ball. (It was actually funny reading the papers back in the early 2000's and watching names of people I had met falling on each other like dominoes).

I'm thinking he pissed off the wrong people. I'm thinking he got a little too big for his britches and somebody wanted to knock him down a peg or two and this was the most convenient way of doing it. Or maybe, it had been rumored that he had some dirt on a particular individual that was a real slippery fish, and by taking my boss out they could get that info and either protect the person in question or ruin them.

Who knows? It's all speculation on my part at this point. I didn't ask any questions back then, even though I wasn't stupid and I had an idea of what was going on. Most of my "knowledge" on this subject came from other high ranking employees of the business that I kept in contact with after that all fell apart, or just from newspaper articles I had read at the time.


In relation to Epstein though, I would say that either he has outlived his usefulness, pissed off the wrong powerful person, or they've decided that there is a real slippery fish of their own they want to catch and they're willing to shut down this particular Blackmail Farm to catch him.

And it's not as if the name Jeffrey Epstein is little known these days. It's probably not a household name, but there are enough people on both sides of the aisle who know it and don't hold it in high regard. Sacraficing this Blackmail Farm for a larger goal will also have the side-benefit of a large PR win for somebody as well.

And let's face it... There is nothing unique or special at all about Jeffrey Epstein or his island. There's plenty of other Epstein's and there are plenty of other islands.

If they're not already fully operational and haven't been for decades already, you can bet your ass that they're already building them as we speak to fill the void.

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‘SHE’S HOT’ Unearthed NBC Footage Appears to Show Trump and Epstein Rating Women’s Looks

Trump is desperately attempting to distance himself from Epstein — but the footage shows them having a good time together.

www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-unearthed-nbc-footage-appears-to
-show-trump-and-epstein-rating-womens-looks-at-1992-party


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Wednesday, July 17, 2019 12:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Yup. Trump and every other stinking politician out there.

It's going to take some solid evidence to bring Trump down using the Epstein card (Remember Russiagate?)

It is possible though. I've said so a few times in this thread that this may be why the Blackmail Farm of Pedophile Island might be sacraficed here.

There is an upside to it though. Trump might just finally follow through on one if his campaign promises and put the Clintons and quite a few other politicians in jail over this. Yanno, draining that swamp. There's no way that Trump would be the only one going down here. If that's the end goal of all of this, the Democrats (or the Deep State) want Trump out so bad they've gone to the non-nuclear nuclear option.

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Wednesday, July 17, 2019 12:29 PM

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Steven Pinker said about Epstein's dirt rubbing off on Pinker:

The annoying irony is that I could never stand the guy, never took research funding from him, and always tried to keep my distance. Friends and colleagues described him to me as a quantitative genius and a scientific sophisticate, and they invited me to salons and coffee klatches at which he held court. But I found him to be a kibitzer and a dilettante — he would abruptly change the subject ADD style, dismiss an observation with an adolescent wisecrack, and privilege his own intuitions over systematic data. I think the dislike was mutual—according to a friend, he “voted me off the island,” presumably because he was sick of me trying to keep the conversation on track and correcting him when he shot off his mouth on topics he knew nothing about. But Epstein had insinuated himself with so many people I intersected with (Alan Dershowitz, Martin Nowak, John Brockman, Steve Kosslyn, Lawrence Krauss) and so many institutions he helped fund (Harvard’s Program in Evolutionary Dynamics, ASU’s Origins Project, even Harvard Hillel) that I often ended up at the same place with him. (Most of these gatherings were prior to the revelation of his sex crimes, such as the 2002 plane trip to TED with Dawkins, Dennett, the Brockmans, and others, but Krauss’s Origins Project Meeting came after he served his sentence.) Since I was often the most recognizable person in the room, someone would snap a picture; some of them resurfaced this past week, circulated by people who disagree with me on various topics and apparently believe that the photos are effective arguments.

Pinker has more to say about Epstein at https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2019/07/12/tarring-steve-pink
er-and-others-with-jeffrey-epstein
/

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Wednesday, July 17, 2019 12:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Sounds to me like this Pinker guy is just trying to distance himself from Epstein like Trump is.

Can't say I blame him, given the current circumstances. Can't say I care to read anything he has to say about it either though.

Just keep in mind, Second, that any argument that you might agree with Pinker on that just because there are photos of them together doesn't mean anything works both ways.

You can't pick and choose who is guilty by association via photographic evidence. Either everybody is or nobody is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 17, 2019 12:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


It occurs to me that maybe none of my predictions here are right. There is another option I didn't put into consideration. Not that this option would immediately discount any of the other options. It could still very well be that powerful people are offering up the Blackmail Farm as a sacrificial lamb to get at Trump here as well.


But...

What do you think Epstein's odds of surviveability are at this point? Is he even going to make it to his court date without some tragic illness striking, or the pressure of it all consuming him and leading to hanging by his own shoe laces?

If we're really talking some real-life Eyes Wide Shut stuff going on here, how many names of powerful people does he know that we've never even heard of?



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Wednesday, July 17, 2019 1:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

If we're really talking some real-life Eyes Wide Shut stuff going on here, how many names of powerful people does he know that we've never even heard of?

Trump already had his real-life Eyes Wide Shut moment and it didn't leave a mark on him: Michael Cohen orchestrated hush money payments to two women who alleged affairs with Trump “in coordination with and at the direction” of the president. Cohen was sentenced Wednesday to three years in prison for several crimes, including the payments to adult film star Stephanie Clifford and model Stephanie McDougal, which prosecutors argued were campaign donations that exceeded the federal limit. Trump fought back Thursday, tweeting that he “never directed Michael Cohen to break the law.”
www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-michael-cohens-sentencing-means-for
-trump


Non intimidating Michael Cohen went to jail because no prosecutors were afraid of him. Trump, on the other hand, has no prosecutors brave enough to take him on, at least while he is President.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, July 17, 2019 2:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Fucking hookers isn't an Eyes Wide Shut moment.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 17, 2019 4:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Fucking hookers isn't an Eyes Wide Shut moment.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

This is Eyes Wide Shut Plot(and Trump did know women who overdosed, but nobody can prove he paid for their drugs, although he paid for something or other):
Quote:

Plot Eyes Wide Shut
Bill reads the news about a beauty queen's death from an overdose, goes to the morgue and identifies her as Mandy. He is then summoned by Ziegler, who reveals he was a guest in the orgy and identified Bill through his connection with Nick. Ziegler claims the secret society's warnings are only intended to scare Bill from speaking about the orgy. However, he implies the society is capable of acting on their threats. Bill asks about Nick's disappearance and Mandy's death, correctly identifying her as the masked orgy participant who sacrificed herself for him. Ziegler insists that Nick is safely back home in Seattle, and the punishment was part of the same charade of intimidation and had nothing to do with Mandy's death. He also says Mandy was a hooker and addict who had died from another accidental drug overdose. Bill does not know whether Ziegler is telling the truth about Nick's whereabouts or Mandy's death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyes_Wide_Shut#Plot

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Wednesday, July 17, 2019 11:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Fucking hookers was certainly a plot point in Eyes Wide Shut.

But if that's the only thing you got out of the movie then you should watch it again.

Kubrick was a little deeper than that. If you want to watch any movies with parallels to Trump's sexual escapades, might I suggest anything directed by Jim Clark (aka Jim Buckley).

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Friday, July 19, 2019 4:41 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


George Nader, Witness in Mueller Probe, Hit With New Charges of Sex Trafficking

George Nader, who was a key witness in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, has been hit with new federal charges of child pornography, sex trafficking, and obscenity, according to a person familiar with the case.
The charges come on top of separate child-porn charges leveled by the same prosecutors last month. The new indictment is set to be unsealed Friday morning in the Eastern District of Virginia, according to the person.
The Department of Justice did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Nader’s attorneys declined to comment. Nader is expected to enter a plea on the charges this morning.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/george-nader-witness-in-mueller-probe-hi
t-with-new-charges-of-sex-trafficking?source=articles&via=rss


Nader, a 60-year-old Lebanese-American businessman with deep political and financial ties to the United Arab Emirates, was a key cooperator in Mueller’s probe of foreign influence in the 2016 election. Nader met several times with individuals associated with the Trump campaign throughout the election and into the early days of the administration. He spoke with officials and advisers on matters ranging from a pitch by a foreign firm for the campaign to use social-media manipulation to regime-change in Iran. (He met with Donald Trump Jr. and other campaign advisors about the plan, which included a proposal to use fake avatars to garner support for Trump, but Trump officials deny they ever considered it.)

He also helped broker a key meeting between Erik Prince, the former Blackwater CEO, and Kirill Dmitriev, the head of one of Russia’s sovereign wealth funds, in the Seychelles in January 2017. That meeting came under intense scrutiny by Mueller’s team and was described in its report as one of the ways the Russians tried to influence the incoming Trump administration.
Federal prosecutors in Virginia argued last month in court that Nader should be held in jail before trial, based in part on his prior criminal history. That history includes a 2003 conviction in the Czech Republic on charges of abusing minors, including a charge of transporting of a minor boy to the U.S. for sexual purposes. Federal prosecutors said Nader has had “hands-on contact with more than a dozen minor boys.” Nader’s lawyers called the U.S. government’s argument weak because he was later acquitted of the Czech sex-trafficking charge.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Fucking hookers was certainly a plot point in Eyes Wide Shut.

But if that's the only thing you got out of the movie then you should watch it again.

Kubrick was a little deeper than that.

Was Kubrick this deep? "This intimately focused updating by Kubrick and Frederic Raphael of Arthur Schnitzler’s beautifully observed 1926 novella “Dream Story” remains remarkably faithful to its source while also trading in familiar Kubrick concerns such as paranoia, deception, the literal and figurative masks people wear, and the difficulty for even intelligent human beings to transcend the base and self-destructive impulses that drive the species."
https://variety.com/1999/film/reviews/eyes-wide-shut-1117742974/

Intelligent human's inability "to transcend the base and self-destructive impulses that drive the species" describes Epstein and Trump. It also describes every overweight patient on "My 600-pound Life". That's why that show exists. That's why Epstein and Trump are infamous.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_600-lb_Life

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, July 19, 2019 5:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX
It's not just the politicians who need to have an investigatory expedition up their asses, it's the deep state: Those CIA/State Department/ semi-official mercs/spec ops/ NSA and foreign intelligence assets who run drugs, money, weapons, and (apparently) children to fund their black ops. The politicians are just there to distract us with their Punch n Judy show.

*****

JAYNZETOWN
It would help if you would put some effort into collating your posts into a readable narrative instead of dumping confetti.

If I understand your tail number posts correctly, it goes like this:

1997-2010
There was one plane, registered with the State Dept, Patrick AFB, FL. A Rockwell OV-10D Bronco twin turboprop with a distinct "stirrup" tail structure, normally used as a light combat and observation plane. This plane was found to be in Bosnia 2000-2002 used by DynaCorp (which IIRC was a subsidiary of Halliburton), and Dynacorp was revealed to have been buying and selling young girls at its operations. The plane next comes into view as having crashed in Colombia in 2006 during "antidrug" operations. The plane was officially deregistered in 2010.

2002
During this time period, a Bell Helicopter with the same tail number was manifested as having flown from Epstein's Zorro Ranch in NMto Double Eagle.

2014 A Cessna P210N was registerd with the same tail number is August of that year.

Now, I don't know if the FAA "recycles" its tail numbers, or permanently retires them once a plane is deregistered, but given the small number of characters in the tail number format, my guess is that they recycle them. So the Cessna is probably not at all connected with any of this other stuff, and it just a legitimate registration with a number that has an unfortunate history.

The fact that Epstein helicopter used a tail number in 2002 that was already in use (in Bosian at the time) is a little hard to explain. I understand "switching plates", but why use a plate from an aircraft that was already implicated in one crime (in Bosnia) for (potentially) the commission of another crime? Instead of hiding the identity of the aircraft with the duplicate tail number, haven't you just created a link bewteen criminal operators?

In any case, I'd be interested in knowing why it took so long to deregister that number (2010) when the aircraft supposedly crashed in 2006. Bureaucratic intertia? Something else? Would be interesting to know if that number was used any time between 2006 and 2010.

I got the impression that the implication was that, with several of the aircraft being used by covert agencies, they may have been shuffling the numbers, using more than one at the same time, to give the record of birds being in places where they were not.
As well as implying that Epstein was involved with numerous covert agencies, meaning powerful government folk.
I did wonder if that supposed crash outside the U.S. during some covert mission was actually carrying some of those girls who were making a fuss. Hilliary doesn't need any new ways to suicide people. But they did use a plane to cover their Ron Brown killing/suicide, or whatever they called that bullet to the brain before killing the entire planeload to cover it up.

Normally, Bureau Serial Numbers and Tail Registration Numbers are unique, not repeated or multiple.
With 5 numbers and 2 letters, this would allow for 67,600,000 unique numbers. Have there been that many built? With 7 alphanumeric characters, it is much more - 36 ^7. Which is more than 83.44 billion. I'm not certain if that many aircraft have been manufactured, yet.


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Friday, July 19, 2019 11:40 PM

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[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Fucking hookers was certainly a plot point in Eyes Wide Shut.

But if that's the only thing you got out of the movie then you should watch it again.

Kubrick was a little deeper than that.

Was Kubrick this deep? "This intimately focused updating by Kubrick and Frederic Raphael of Arthur Schnitzler’s beautifully observed 1926 novella “Dream Story” remains remarkably faithful to its source while also trading in familiar Kubrick concerns such as paranoia, deception, the literal and figurative masks people wear, and the difficulty for even intelligent human beings to transcend the base and self-destructive impulses that drive the species."
https://variety.com/1999/film/reviews/eyes-wide-shut-1117742974/

Intelligent human's inability "to transcend the base and self-destructive impulses that drive the species" describes Epstein and Trump. It also describes every overweight patient on "My 600-pound Life". That's why that show exists. That's why Epstein and Trump are infamous.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_600-lb_Life

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Let's make a top ten list of what makes Second hard.

1. My 600 lb life. (TV show)
2. Donald Trump.
3. Texas Republicans.
4. Ruining people's lives because of their political beliefs.
5. Talking about how much money he has.


Feel free to add to the list.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, July 20, 2019 8:40 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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That didn't take long, did it?

Less than 8 hours after my post last night, he already put this in the thread for Democrats only:

Quote:

Originally posted by second:

A Republican President will make me richer than a Democrat. The extra money Trump sends my way in reduced taxes and regulations will ease my disappointment that he is reelected. And if Trump causes the economy to crash, like Bush did in 2008, I will be buying American real estate and stocks at a huge discount, just like I did during the Bush crash. Eventually, the economy will turnaround after a Republican caused crash, as it did under Obama and Bill Clinton and, going way back, FDR.



Second's nothing, if not entirely predictable.

#2 and #5 down, and the day's just hardly begun. He came dangerously close to #3 if you take the inference he made earlier in the post, but I chose not to argue that yet since I'm sure he'll just flat out say it at some point today.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, July 20, 2019 8:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Can I borrow that list?

I think it would make a handy - and funny! - scorecard for SECOND's posts.

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Saturday, July 20, 2019 8:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


It's all yours.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, July 20, 2019 8:43 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Epstein had a house in Paris France, one of the most up market posh most expensive areas of Paris, slowly names are coming out connecting to groups who might have trafficked under age Eastern European models to the islands in the Carribean.

Royalty from Arabia might also connect and a lot of celebrity names inside that 'Little Black Book'

Past Epstein ties may expose worst British royal family scandal yet
https://tube.poal.co/watch?v=DQ1JQvi3GSA

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=DQ1JQvi3GSA

Mossad? Former CIA officer Philip Giraldi says the affair has all the hallmarks of a major espionage case, possibly tied to Israel: the filming procedure smacks of a sophisticated intelligence service compiling material to blackmail prominent politicians and other public figures
A former CIA and military intelligence officer, Robert David Steele, also believes Epstein is linked to the Mossad.
Dr. Steve Pieczenik a former US State department spoke on the Mossad - Epstein connection, says Israelis use pedophilia for blackmail.


Graydon Carter refutes/disputes? scrubbing sexual abuse claim from Vicky Ward's 2003 Vanity Fair article
https://wwd.com/business-news/media/graydon-carter-jeffrey-epstein-pro
file-vicky-ward-accusations-1203224153
/

Lex/Les Wexner / Epstein connection - VOX article. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/7/10/20689134/jeffrey-epstein-les-w
exner-l-brands-victoria-secret-limited
Lex gave Epstein the $77 million mansion in NYC that was just raided by police, the NYC mansion full of weird eyeballs and disturbing photos and CDs possibly of blackmail all dated, named, catalogued.


Ex-IT guy: Epstein's Island has a secret cove he called “the grotto"
the island also seems to have tunnels, a weird temple and other strange stuff going on
https://nypost.com/2019/07/18/jeffrey-epsteins-private-island-always-h
ad-topless-girls-ex-it-guy
/


Jeffrey Epstein Documentary Halted Because His Life Was Too Disturbing
https://truepundit.com/jeffrey-epstein-documentary-halted-because-his-
life-was-too-disturbing
/

Jeffrey Epstein Documentary Scrapped: Too "Distasteful" for Hollywood
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporter/jeffrey-epstein-do
cumentary-scrapped-distasteful-hollywood-1225029?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

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Saturday, July 20, 2019 10:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


"Too distasteful for Hollywood"???

Still trying to wrap my mind around that one. Those words don't belong in a sentence together.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 26, 2019 3:53 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


I wonder if it will blow out, the names explode ... it could include EVERYTHING, the human traffickers of South America, Europe and Arabia, the Roman Catholics, elites of hollywood and the business world, the Jewish Mafia, the British Royal family

That Temple looks odd

it could even involve corrupt police, the CIA or M I 6 or other groups like Mossad?

Coming to a theater near you. Tarantino Billboards Hijacked in L.A. to Slam Epstein, Polanski and "Pedowood"
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tarantino-billboards-hijacked-l
a-slam-epstein-polanski-pedowood-1227227


an old post on 4chan pol

Full text of a 2002 book about Epstein's child procuror's Dad Anonymous (ID: O9d/xyoh) BL 07/16/19(Tue)10:09:43 No.219656043 Archived?>>219656202 >>219657137 >>219662987 >>219669089

"Robert Maxwell, Israel's Superspy" by Gordon Thomas:
https://archive.is/7D7v0
https:// mega. nz /#!Ms0WwQBB!UUVICWUCBNnJ_SOeoBQeFkejr4OJe3XuCE_n207xvEw

Please reupload. They already took it off voat.

>>


> Their business was prostitution, drug running, traffic in humans. When MI5 discovered how Mogilevich earned his money, they informed the Home Office which expelled him from Britain and publicly branded him as 'one of the most dangerous criminals in the world'. It is hard to believe that Robert Maxwell did not know that. Yet he continued to be drawn ever deeper into the dark and evil empire Mogilevich operated. A number of people who had crossed his path had been disposed of into the Moscow River or in one of the city's back streets. He had his own team of killers never further away than a phone call.

Lawmaker says she’s been told to back off call for probe of Jeffrey Epstein’s work release
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article233102457.html

zerohedge links to a wired report

While anybody even remotely familiar with the Epstein story knows that his actions were irredeemably heinous, there are other characters in Epstein's orbit - characters who may have participated in what appears to be a global sex-trafficking ring - who are more complicated.

One of those characters is a 32-year-old model named Nadia Marcinko. Marcinko, who was once described in court documents as Epstein's "in-house sex slave" was ferried out of Slovakia on Epstein's private jet when she was just 15, and lived with the billionaire for years after, Wired reports.

Now working as a commercial pilot, Marcinko is clearly hoping the media will gloss over her involvement with Epstein. She refuses to talk to reporters, and even uses a slightly modified version of her last name (she was once known as Nadia Marcinkova).

A reporter at Wired tried to look into Marcinko's past to parse whether she was a willing, or unwilling, participant in Epstein's crimes, and whether she was also one of his youngest victims. Some of Epstein's other victims told police that Marcinko pressured them to sleep with both her and Epstein. Though her history of flying with Epstein is harder to pin down due to Epstein's record-keeping practices (he only recorded the first names of underage girls in flight logs, if at all), but it's become clear that during her first decade in the country, from roughly 2000 to the beginning of Epstein's prison sentence, she frequently flew between Epstein's properties in New York, Palm Beach, Monterey, Columbus, Ohio and the Azores. A pilot who once worked for Epstein testified that she had flown with him hundreds of times.

Marcinko's relationship with Epstein presumably ended when she was given immunity from prosecution in 2008 after being named an accomplice. It's still not entirely clear how she came to live with Epstein. Was she 'sold' to him by family members in Bratislava? Or did she run away with him willingly, hoping for a more glamorous life?

Whatever happened, as Wired claims, Marcinko is part of a small group of people who are both victims of Epstein and possible abusers.

Her testimony could again be useful. That is, if she ultimately avoids being implicated as a 'rape facilitator'.

Has this pilot suddenly deleted her social media accounts
did she only have an instagram / youtube post only up to a few days ago

Now they burn the social media accounts?

and Maxwell, still at those social events but her media account is another gone private?

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/26/prosecutors-investigating-others-in-je
ffrey-epstein-sex-traffic-case.html

Prosecutors in Jeffrey Epstein sex traffic case investigating 'uncharged individuals': Court filing

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Saturday, July 27, 2019 7:05 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


It seems to have made world news ... but not official world news

One bunch of guys want you to blame this Team-B
The other 2nd bunch of guys want you to blame Team B yet

...someone is trying to keep the pressure cooker closed...they more they push down the more it will blow, equal and opposite reactions

So I had a look online to see if anyone is chatting about this and there is A LOT of chat, on facebook groups, social media like bitchute, minds etc

but very little from Western Media, you know US news, official French, Italian, Jewish papers, British news papers, mainstream papers, global corporate media .... very little info ... they have some info but it is limited with their own verison of local spin

yet people are chatting, putting the pieces together like a series of jigsaw puzzles and without the help of those almost zombie robotic talking heads on tv that parrot news sound bites....the people they are talking in S.America, they are talking in Asia, in Russia, in European and American social media the gossip flows

These Russian blogger say something like
Quote:


'Maybe it is some occultic orgies mountains of cocaine. Perhaps even everything was neatly recorded film for subsequent pressure on the characters.'

...

[ talk in Russian language ]



https://log2stas.livejournal.com/1013915.html
The Japanese writers and bloggers note how Epstein's tentacles are
everywhere
Quote:


'Tentacles all around, even arrived in Hollywood he was still around big players even after the conviction and crimes he made' [ Japanese language ]



https://altervista.org/

The Spanish Bloggers and Latin Media

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1148242948536115200
Otros nombres sospechosamente vinculados a Epstein son el del actor Kevin Spacey (ya ha enfrentado cargos por abusos a menores); el príncipe británico Andrew (duque de York); el humorista Chris Tucker...
Quote:


https://latribunadeespana.com/

ÚLTIMA HORA: El hijo de José María Aznar entre los visitantes de la Isla de las Lolitas del pedófilo Epstein: Kissinger, Soros, Trump, Clinton y Rothschild y la perotección de El Mossad. Artículo de Alfredo Jalife

https://www.lavanguardia.com/

El magnate que fue amigo de Donald Trump y Bill Clinton ha sido acusado de tráfico sexual de menores
0
Jeffrey Epstein, que ha prestado su jet a Bill Clinton y paseado con Andrés de Inglaterra, se enfrenta a una pena de 45 años



and there is other talk, offline, maybe at some game bowling thing, maybe at a pub, maybe people talk in other places

the guy is in jail, maybe near other criminals, talking, perhaps their is a power fault on that cell door and he's getting beat up, talking more

and now in the prison house, perhaps even the lowest level scum from the Russian mob, the Latin gangs, the Asian Mafia, the Italian mobsters will have almost the very same info that these blackmail groups and alphabet clown agency thought secret.

and the Hackers, the 4chan people, they have been deep into their 'conspiracy' and leaks stuff for years, the hackers they got even more exposure


The media won't keep a lid on this one, its too big

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:30 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I'm sure there are an awful lot of well-known and/or powerful people walking around with a knot in their stomaches right now.

Epstein was found partially conscious with marks around his neck. He had been housed with a ginormous cop-killer. Why wasn't he in isolation?

I wonder if he'll make it to trial. Maybe this will be the 126th Clinton "suicide". We should start a betting pool.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


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America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


I thought I heard that Epstein's lawyer said he wasn't assaulted?

Not that I trust lawyers... even less so than I do the media, but do we actually know at all what happened?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 10:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Sound's like Epstein was just suicided.

Somebody should probably ask the Clintons what their alibi is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 10:54 AM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Sound's like Epstein was just suicided.

Somebody should probably ask the Clintons what their alibi is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



HA! The Clinton crime family will be sure not to leave any clues.

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 2:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
"FBI-NYPD Crimes Against Children Task Force"

Jeez, what took so long? And why didn't some other country get to him first? He was an obvious person to investigate.

And ... if anything that PN posted is any indication of how things go ... there's a lot of people who'd like to see Epstein definitively quiet. I wonder how nervous he is at the moment, not about the police, but about his 'clients'.



The second post in the entire thread. I wondered if he'd make it to trial. And one way or another, I won me a nickel from myself.

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Saturday, September 7, 2019 6:47 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, speaking of rolling over in their graves - I imagine Jeff's parents doing just that:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-06/epstein-buried-unmarked-grav
e-wealthy-jewish-cemetery
Quote:

Epstein's body was buried at the IJ Morris Star of David cemetery in West Palm Beach, the Mirror reports. He was buried next to his parents, Seymour and Paula.

To make it harder for vandals to defile his grave, Epstein was placed in an unmarked grave. Also, the names of his parents were removed from their tombstones.

Asked about his brother's burial
Quote:

Mark reportedly responded: "It's nobody's f**king business. It's a private family matter, you got that? I'm not going to answer your question."
Those brothers are a class act, all the way.

/snark

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Sunday, September 8, 2019 4:01 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I knew I had read somewhere that Epstein was a Billionaire. I guess this was it, having read the title dozens of times.

Somebody else claims he was only a half-Billionaire.

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Monday, September 9, 2019 10:11 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Finally - someone is asking IN PRINT the questions I and a lot of other people have been asking:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-09/how-deep-rot-americas-instit
utions


... please explain how 1) the NSA, CIA and FBI didn't know what Jeffrey Epstein was up to, and with whom; 2) Epstein was free to pursue his sexual exploitation of minors for years prior to his wrist-slap conviction and for years afterward; 3) Epstein, the highest profile and most at-risk prisoner in the nation, was left alone and the security cameras recording his cell and surroundings were "broken."

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Saturday, September 21, 2019 10:00 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


This guy wasn't on Epstein's epic level. But the same question applies: 'what took so long'?

Homeless men called Democratic donor Ed Buck ‘Dr. Kevorkian.’ Why did his arrest take so long?
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-20/after-arrest-of-ed
-buck-a-k-a-dr-kevorkian-some-ask-what-took-so-long


And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Friday, November 8, 2019 2:46 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.





Tactical Ops Brewing in Fresno, California is printing the message “EPSTEIN DIDNT KILL HIMSELF” on the bottom of beer cans, according to local Fox affiliate KMPH.
I'll drink to that!

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