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Sunday, October 13, 2019 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Precrime.

Thoughtcrime.

You heard it here, folks.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, you would not do well as a cop. You have someone who has never been convicted of a crime, and yet you jail them then place them on trial. And all the while, they are completely innocent of any crime. It is outrageous! Trump is completely innocent until proven guilty! To impeach him is to prejudge him as guilty.

All those times he broke the law but has not gone to jail will count for nothing. All those tens of thousands of lies he has told will count for nothing. All that tax cheating is nothing. He is innocent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump
www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/fals
e
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www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump

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Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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There is something fundamentally wrong with how Americans solve crime. If the criminal won't confess, the system can't solve the crime. There is a sociopath who went on a 40 year murder spree. Only now, when the old fool is talking about his exploits, will the system be able to solve 96 murders. But if the system would look at how the man lived his life during those 40 years, the system would not have waited until he was fat, old, slow and stupid to catch him. Trump is getting fat, old, slow and stupid. The system might catch him, too, but there were many instances in his past that indicated he is a sociopath who should have been locked up.- SECONDRATE
Wow, a crazy person calling someone else crazy. How crazy is THAT???

Quote:

All those times he broke the law but has not gone to jail will count for nothing. All those tens of thousands of lies he has told will count for nothing. All that tax cheating is nothing. He is innocent.
And then it doubles down on delusion. Crazier still!



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Wow, a crazy person calling someone else crazy. How crazy is THAT???

Quote:

All those times he broke the law but has not gone to jail will count for nothing. All those tens of thousands of lies he has told will count for nothing. All that tax cheating is nothing. He is innocent.
And then it doubles down on delusion. Crazier still!

Trump’s Ghostwriter calls him a Sociopath
www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/07/18/trump-s-ghostwriter-he-s-a-soc
iopath


Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, says Trump is a sociopath
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-trump-knew-
wrong-make/story?id=59815550


Retired Harvard clinical psychiatrist Dr. Lance Dodes classified Trump as "an extremely successful sociopath".
www.salon.com/2019/08/26/nuking-the-hurricane-diagnosing-trumps-appare
nt-mental-illness-isnt-the-point
/

70,699 mental health professionals call Trump a sociopath.
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/former-bush-official-puts-trump-on-the
-couch-a-10-out-of-10-narcissist/2019/05/15/28d4a46e-7742-11e9-bd25-c989555e7766_story.html


Signym, Trump might be a sociopath. Signym, please use your analogy about the million flies can't be wrong, because I'm sure Trump is covered with flies.

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Sunday, October 13, 2019 12:45 PM

SIGNYM

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SECONDRATE is a sociopath. Someone told me so, so it must be true.

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Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:06 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SECONDRATE is a sociopath. Someone told me so, so it must be true.

Sorry to tell you, but you have to get a little closer to me. I eagerly await the lawsuit you and 1kiki have promised to file against me. (Are you copying Trump's silly habit of threatening to sue everybody?) That will be your opportunity to know me better and then your diagnosis might have some real weight in the world. I missed a story about Trump:

"What Happens When the Walls Finally Close in on Trump?"

Mental health experts say his narcissism could make him capable of just about anything. “People like Donald Trump who have severe narcissistic disturbances can’t tolerate being criticized, so the more they are challenged in this essential way, the more out of control they become. They change reality to suit themselves in their own mind.” It creates a vicious cycle: The more out of control Trump becomes, the more reason others have to challenge him, which only makes him more out of control. I have always wanted to see how crazy Trump, Signym, 1kiki and 6ix can get. Is there some upper limit? I sure hope not.

www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mental-he
alth-754139
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Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:11 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"I eagerly await the lawsuit you and 1kiki have promised to file against me."

Nope, not against you. Against SOMEBODY. Or, maybe, several somebodies. Maybe all at once. Maybe not. At a time of my choosing. For reasons you won't know.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:23 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
"I eagerly await the lawsuit you and 1kiki have promised to file against me."

Nope, not against you. Against SOMEBODY. Or, maybe, several somebodies. Maybe all at once. Maybe not. At a time of my choosing. For reasons you won't know.

Do you realize that sounds completely Trump crazy?

As the pressure mounts — as it likely will with a Democratic House investigating the Trump syndicate — the situation will only continue to deteriorate. “The more desperate he is, the more aggressively and the more recklessly he’s going to lash out — and not just lash out on Twitter, but really lash out in ways that are destructive to the bones of our institutions. So, he’ll try to declare criminal investigations on his enemies or anyone who criticizes him. He’ll fire everyone involved in the Mueller investigations. He’ll fire Sessions” —which, of course, he actually did last Wednesday. “He’ll ramp up his attack on civil liberties and the rule of law. He’ll escalate his incitement to violence, whether it’s supporting white nationalists or demonizing minority populations. Things that we think, ‘Oh, he could never do that, because that would be so outrageous,’ he can and he will. There’s no restraints here. There’s nothing he won’t do. And if it’s enormously destructive, that’s not actually a negative for him, that’s a positive.”

www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mental-he
alth-754139
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Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:25 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECONDRATE, THIS is what Trumps ghostwrtier said about Trump


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Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All

Hmm... no mention of sociopathy there

Quote:

Trump only takes two positions. Either you’re a scummy loser, liar, whatever, or you’re the greatest.

He told Trump that if he would give him half the advance and half the book’s royalties he’d take the job.

Such terms are unusually generous for a ghostwriter.

He asked Trump to describe his childhood in detail. After sitting for only a few minutes in his suit and tie, Trump became impatient and irritable. He looked fidgety, Schwartz recalls, “like a kindergartner who can’t sit still in a classroom.”

“It’s implicit in a lot of what people write, but it’s never explicit—or, at least, I haven’t seen it. And that is that it’s impossible to keep him focussed on any topic, other than his own self-aggrandizement, for more than a few minutes, and even then . . . ” Schwartz trailed off, shaking his head in amazement. He regards Trump’s inability to concentrate as alarming in a Presidential candidate. “If he had to be briefed on a crisis in the Situation Room, it’s impossible to imagine him paying attention over a long period of time,” he said.

rump’s short attention span has left him with “a stunning level of superficial knowledge and plain ignorance.” He said, “That’s why he so prefers TV as his first news source—information comes in easily digestible sound bites.” He added, “I seriously doubt that Trump has ever read a book straight through in his adult life.”

There was not a single call that Trump deemed too private for Schwartz to hear. “He loved the attention,” Schwartz recalls. “If he could have had three hundred thousand people listening in, he would have been even happier.”

Trump seemed driven entirely by a need for public attention.

“He lied strategically. He had a complete lack of conscience about it.” Since most people are “constrained by the truth,” Trump’s indifference to it “gave him a strange advantage.”

insatiable hunger for “money, praise, and celebrity.”

“He’d like people when they were helpful, and turn on them when they weren’t. It wasn’t personal. He’s a transactional man—it was all about what you could do for him.”



He told Trump that if he would give him half the advance and half the book’s royalties he’d take the job.

Such terms are unusually generous for a ghostwriter.

None there either. And altho my "find in page" function doesn't work for that article on that site, I read thru most of it and nowhere did I find either the word, or any description that would indicate sociopathy.

Somebody is lying about the content of the article.
Gee.
Who would that be?


You have claimed over and over that Trump is a "narcissist" and a "sociopath" but my opinion ... which I posted ... is that Trump has a bad case of adult ADHD, and he's obviously had it all of his life. That's prolly why he doesn't do drugs.

You've never dealt with a kid with ADHD, have you? It's a whirlwind of constant activity and Look at me! Look at me! and motor-mouthing. It's almost as if they can't pay attention to something unless someone is paying attention to THEM paying atention to something. They love being in chaotic situations because all of the shiny bits of events are very attention-grabbing.

If I had to peg Trump with something, that would be it.

Unlike Hillary, who's just a creepy hag who loves killing people and who sold her soul for power.




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Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:31 PM

1KIKI

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
"I eagerly await the lawsuit you and 1kiki have promised to file against me."

Nope, not against you. Against SOMEBODY. Or, maybe, several somebodies. Maybe all at once. Maybe not. At a time of my choosing. For reasons you won't know.

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Do you realize that sounds ...

... like I'm correcting the lies you tell? Well - yes you DO lie!! And I'm correcting them! I have never

promised

(to)

sue

you personally

or anybody

or nobody

and anything else you post - well, that's a lie.

UNLIKE YOU, when I post, I pick my words carefully; I do my best to say EXACTLY what I mean - no more, no less.

Still, best to keep that lawyer paid and ready to go, just in case.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:32 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh BTW SECONDRATE, you've been outed by your own posts. You're obviously a sick twisted fuck who is filled with hate. You lie to yourself constantly, and shovel contradctory shit onto the board which you proceed to misrepresent. (ie. LIE about), have fired people for political reasons and insinuated that violence is the solution to your grotch.

Yanno, like you lied about what Trump's ghostwriter said.

What, you thought no one would read the article that you linked?



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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Somebody is lying about the content of the article.
Gee.
Who would that be?

The title is:
"Trump’s Ghostwriter: He’s a Sociopath"

I don't think that means the Ghostwriter is the Sociopath.
www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/07/18/trump-s-ghostwriter-he-s-a-soc
iopath


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Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:38 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Somebody is lying about the content of the article.
Gee.
Who would that be?

The title is:
"Trump’s Ghostwriter: He’s a Sociopath"

I don't think that means the Ghostwriter is the Sociopath.
www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/07/18/trump-s-ghostwriter-he-s-a-soc
iopath


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No, you stupid fuck. I even quote the REAL title for you. The New Yorker title is

Quote:

Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All
“The Art of the Deal” made America see Trump as a charmer with an unfailing knack for business. Tony Schwartz helped create that myth—and regrets it.



THAT is the title of the article.

Everything I read in the article about Donald Trump does NOT describe sociopathy. The ghostwriter refers over and over again to Trump's extremely short attention span. It refers to his need for attention and his desire to live in a buzz saw of activity; all hallmarks of ADHD. CLEARLY the writer wouldn't know a sociopath from a pig.

Which is why I posted that "someone" called you a sociopath, so it must be true: a clinical diagnosis from my dogcatcher is meaningless, as is the "diagnosis" of his ghostwriter and in this case his "diagnosis" is most probably wrong.

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Sunday, October 13, 2019 1:39 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


SLOPPY,

You stupid shit.

You realize that the publication writes the title, not the author - RIGHT?

And that if you follow the link to the ORIGINAL article the title is completely different - RIGHT?

JEEZE, what a dumb fuck you are.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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I can see clear signs that 1kiki and Signym will crack up. Trump is starting to crack, too.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Where’s Hunter? He has totally disappeared! Now looks like he has raided and scammed even more countries! Media is AWOL.
7:15 AM - 13 Oct 2019
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1183385881320853509

One reply was "Where’s Creepy Eric Trump who stole charity money from kids with cancer? He held a fundraiser at the Trump National Golf Club in New York and pocketed almost $100K that he raised from others when he claimed that he donated all of it. Skimming over the top from cancer kids? Evil."
https://twitter.com/eugenegu/status/1183389104060260354

The story is true!
Eric Trump Lied About His Foundation's Expenses
www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2018/01/12/new-filing-shows-eric-tru
mp-raised-millions-lied-about-his-foundations-expenses
/

Let's impeach Fathers for what Sons do.


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Sunday, October 13, 2019 2:04 PM

SIGNYM

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can see clear signs that 1kiki and Signym will crack up.- SECONDRATE
More nuttiness from our local crazy-person. SECONDRATE is



*****

Yanno, just as an aside .... I've known some crazy people. For some of them, a touch of madness is a touch of genius. Calling SECONRATE crazy is disrespectful to crazy people.

The thing that makes SECONDRATE particularly abhorrent is that he's VOLUNTARILY crazy. He clings to his hate, which fuels his delusions, which fuels his lies, which fuels his hate.

Stop the cycle, SECOND, please, I beg you. Come back to sanity. Stop living in a world of hate.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Yanno, just as an aside

Just as an aside about crazy people having problems . . . The next door neighbor, Larry, called me many times the best neighbor he ever had. Larry, and his family, supported Trump through all his travails. That kind of blindness to what is wrong with Trump could be a problem for a family's survival, if that blindness extends to other problems. And it did: Levi the son is in jail for stealing from Larry. Linda died from ethylene glycol (accident? suicide? murder? Unknown to Baytown police), Lance the other son sued Larry for half of his mother's estate after he was released from a 10 year prison sentence on a charge of homicide and drunken driving. Finally, Larry's problems were getting solved, with one son in jail and the other banished, but Larry died from a stroke. Between family and Trump, it was too much for him. His blood pressure was too high. Larry's house was sold in March. Take care Signym, 1kiki, and 6ix that Trump's problems don't kill you. For me, the worse it gets for Trump, the more I laugh. Schadenfreude can't kill me, can it? I worry because I expect to get more every week, maybe too much.

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Sunday, October 13, 2019 2:54 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I can see clear signs that 1kiki and Signym will crack up. Trump is starting to crack, too.




All that hot air + cracking

This is what I think every time I scroll through the news and it has Trump blustering...





If only, if only....

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Sunday, October 13, 2019 3:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Just as an aside about crazy people having problems . . . Take care Signym, 1kiki, and 6ix that Trump's problems don't kill you. For me, the worse it gets for Trump, the more I laugh. Schadenfreude can't kill me, can it? I worry because I expect to get more every week, maybe too much.

I was JUST going to post that you've entered WISHY territory - and speak of the devil! Your insanity must have spoken to hers.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I was JUST going to post that you've entered WISHY territory - and speak of the devil! Your insanity must have spoken to hers.

Trump threatened on Saturday night to sue top congressional Democrats Rep. Adam Schiff and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi amid the House impeachment inquiry into the President.

Trump, who has a long track record of calling for lawsuits against his critics and not following through, said, "We're going to take a look at it. We're going after these people. These are bad, bad people."

Trump said he spoke to his lawyers about Schiff and told them, "Sue him anyway, even if we lose, the American public will understand." Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence committee, is spearheading the impeachment inquiry.

"And sue Nancy Pelosi," Trump continued. "Or maybe we should just impeach them, because they're lying and what they're doing is a terrible thing for our country." Members of Congress cannot be impeached, according to the US Constitution.

www.cnn.com/2019/10/12/politics/trump-threatens-sue-schiff-pelosi/inde
x.html


Trump's lawyers will ignore him, but if 1kiki wants to sue, please do.

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Sunday, October 13, 2019 6:01 PM

1KIKI

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The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

Trump could get impeached over abandoning the Kurds. He won't be able to show it was not about his money in Turkey. And the longer he delays imposing sanctions on Turkey, the more likely it was only about his money. Expect him to deny it, repeatedly.

Last week, Donald Trump announced the unilateral withdrawal of American forces in northern Syria in order to allow Turkey’s armed forces to enter the country.

Trump’s decision to retreat was widely seen as a green light for the ongoing Turkish incursion. The largely Kurdish SDF and Americans who fought alongside them say the decision was a betrayal, and struggle to see even in terms of cold realpolitik what the benefit to US interests could be.

Some are turning to the Trump family’s significant business interests in Turkey as an explanation for the decision.

A Syrian politician who was reportedly dragged from her car and murdered by Turkish-backed paramilitaries yesterday is fast becoming a symbol of US failures in the Middle East.

Lindsey Graham wrote, “It is imperative that we stop the bloodshed and stabilize northeastern Syria to prevent the reemergence of ISIS and the rise of Iran.”
https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1183500474684772352

Donald J. Trump wrote, “Dealing with @LindseyGrahamSC and many members of Congress, including Democrats, about imposing powerful Sanctions on Turkey. Treasury is ready to go, additional legislation may be sought. There is great consensus on this. Turkey has asked that it not be done. Stay tuned!”
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1183376270731763714

Retired Marine Gen. John Allen: 'There is blood on Trump's hands for abandoning our Kurdish allies'
www.cnn.com/2019/10/13/politics/syria-marine-general-john-allen-trump/
index.html


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Sunday, October 13, 2019 7:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Precrime.

Thoughtcrime.

You heard it here, folks.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

6ix, you would not do well as a cop. You have someone who has never been convicted of a crime, and yet you jail them then place them on trial. And all the while, they are completely innocent of any crime. It is outrageous! Trump is completely innocent until proven guilty! To impeach him is to prejudge him as guilty.

All those times he broke the law but has not gone to jail will count for nothing. All those tens of thousands of lies he has told will count for nothing. All that tax cheating is nothing. He is innocent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump
www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/fals
e
/
www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly





That's not what you said. You said a person, regardless if they were Trump or not, who has exhibited what you deem to be sociopathic behavior should be locked up.

You would do wise not to throw stones in that glass house of yours.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, October 13, 2019 8:03 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


You would do wise not to throw stones in that glass house of yours.




Shit, that's all you DO all day long

Sit around bitching about women in Star Wars and gay people and then profess how you are soo full of empathy.

Only Trump is a bigger fucking hypocrite than you are


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Monday, October 14, 2019 12:43 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


When have I bitched about gay people.

Show me the quote.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 14, 2019 1:31 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
When have I bitched about gay people.

Show me the quote.




It's bitching about Star Wars and (making fun of) gay people.


Either way, I'm sure you meant this in a good-natured way, and not just jumping on the "deride the gays" bandwagon, ehh?




Quote:

What'sss your favorite planet, honey?

Mine is Uranussssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Don't worry about those Klingonssssssssssssssss, sssssweetie.

I've got a Vulcanized Particle Weapon just itching to get in on that action.

Heya Lonessssssssstar!

I ssssssseeeee your sssssschwartzsssssssssss isssssssss asssssssss big assssssss mine.

Nobody here is bashing gays, faggot.










Yep, not a Nazi in the slightest.

You wanna do a thread making fun of Jews or disabled people next??

Hey, you already did a half dozen threads using the word nigger every other sentence back in the day, so let's skip that one, 'K? Or should I say "KKK"?

Oh, and the no more anchor babies from yesterday. That was about white anchor babies, right??

Come to think of it, when HAVE you ever made fun of straight white guys, hmmmm?

Not so funny to you????

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Monday, October 14, 2019 8:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


lol

What a dumb broad.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 14, 2019 9:11 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's not what you said. You said a person, regardless if they were Trump or not, who has exhibited what you deem to be sociopathic behavior should be locked up.

You would do wise not to throw stones in that glass house of yours.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Better than locking up a sociopath, maybe letting the sociopath work in the White House would be the best treatment? There are all those people around to look after the sociopath, keep him from harming himself or others. It has only been 8 days since Trump's amazing phone call with the President of Turkey. Unfortunately, nobody stopped Trump from giving Turkey permission to kill Kurds, America's allies. I guess the staff in the White House did not see it as classic sociopathic behavior. It is okay because it is a phone call. Trump is not actually shooting people directly is what the White House staff was thinking. But nobody in the Secret Service would allow Trump to hold a gun. He might hurt somebody.

Unfortunately, there is a video of Trump acting out his killer impulses. A video showing a likeness of President Donald Trump shooting, stabbing and brutally assaulting members of the news media and his political opponents has prompted calls for the White House to denounce the violence after it was reportedly shown at a meeting of Trump supporters at his Miami resort.

www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/report-internet-meme-showing-trump-shooti
ng-media-political-opponents-shown-n1065641


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, October 14, 2019 11:00 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
It has only been 8 days since Trump's amazing phone call with the President of Turkey. Unfortunately, nobody stopped Trump from giving Turkey permission to kill Kurds, America's allies. I guess the staff in the White House did not see it as classic sociopathic behavior. It is okay because it is a phone call.
t.




Where are Kiki and Sig wailing for all those poor brown people?

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Monday, October 14, 2019 11:03 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: A giant nothingburger and general waster of broadband.






I have a tagline for you.

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Monday, October 14, 2019 11:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

That's not what you said. You said a person, regardless if they were Trump or not, who has exhibited what you deem to be sociopathic behavior should be locked up.

You would do wise not to throw stones in that glass house of yours.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Better than locking up a sociopath, maybe letting the sociopath work in the White House would be the best treatment?



I could think of worse things.

Let's take a look of before and after shots of our last three presidents...







Nope. That doesn't look like a fun job.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:00 AM

THG


No, the Trump impeachment inquiry is not a coup

There were four coups attempted in 2019. Trump supported one of them. The Trump administration backed a bona fide coup attempt in Venezuela in 2019

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/10/15/no-trump-impeachmen
t-inquiry-is-not-coup
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T


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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:03 AM

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Most Americans Want Donald Trump to Cooperate with Impeachment Inquiry: Poll

The survey of 2,495 Americans between October 8-11 by CBS News and YouGov found that 63 percent believed that President Donald Trump's White House should cooperate with the impeachment probe, while 37 percent opposed the idea.
It also found that a combined 53 percent majority of Americans "strongly" or "somewhat" approved of the Democratic Party's decision to start an impeachment inquiry, while a combined 46 percent "strongly" or "somewhat" disapproved.
A further majority of 69 percent of polled Americans said they were paying "a lot" or "some" attention to the House's unfolding impeachment probe, while 57 percent said Trump's dealings with Ukraine were "something that few or no other presidents have done with foreign countries.

More than six in ten (61 percent) of those polled recognized that a U.S. president asking another country for help with "campaigns and political efforts" was something they "should not" do.

tick tock

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:38 AM

THG


Trump has been choosing foreign intelligence over our own intelligence agencies. He has been attacking our entire legal system. He calls our dedicated and professional government officials deep state and corrupt.

Trump has been telling them not to testify at his impeachment hearings. They are showing up anyway and telling what they know that makes the case for Trumps impeachment. Did Trump really think these people would cover for him?

tick tock Trump

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 11:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

More than six in ten (61 percent) of those polled recognized that a U.S. president asking another country for help with "campaigns and political efforts" was something they "should not" do.



But taking a 1 million dollar birthday gift from the Prince of Qatar is cool.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 12:19 PM

THG


Career U.S. diplomat testifies at House impeachment inquiry on Trump's Ukraine dealings

WASHINGTON — The Democratic-led U.S. House of Representatives' impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump on Tuesday questioned George Kent, a U.S. career diplomat who has spent much of his career fighting corruption in Ukraine and elsewhere.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/career-us-diplomat-testifies-a
t-house-impeachment-inquiry-on-trumps-ukraine-dealings/ar-AAIObYa?ocid=spartandhp


I know the reason why some of us here have to keep telling others i.e. including Jack, that representing oneself in court by claiming, it's ok you broke the law because others do too, is not a winning argument. It is the argument put forth by the guilty.

It's the argument made here over and over again by sig kiki jack jsf and others. Never do they present evidence of Trumps innocents. I'll add, it's monic for them to think their posts are perceived any way other than, a stupid defense put forth by defenders of the guilty and indefensible.




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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 12:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It's not incumbent on me to provide anybody with any evidence of innocence.

It is, however, incumbent upon Democrats and the Legacy Media to provide evidence of Trump's guilt.

They have been remiss in these duties. The ONLY evidence they have of anything that could even be laughingly called wrongdoing is the Billy Bush tapes.


But please, impeach away. I agree with the impeachment proceedings.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 1:59 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The ONLY evidence they have of anything that could even be laughingly called wrongdoing is the Billy Bush tapes.



Boy, when you're wrong...

https://www.needtoimpeach.com/impeachable-offenses/

"TRUMP'S 10 IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES

1. Obstructing Justice

The trail of evidence starts with Trump’s attempt to get Comey to drop an investigation into National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn.
When he refused, Trump fired James Comey, the FBI director responsible for overseeing the investigation into Trump’s relationship with Russia during the 2016 election.
Trump made two more attempts at stopping the investigation by trying (unsuccessfully) to fire Robert Mueller, Comey’s predecessor. Then, Trump ordered White House Counsel Don McGahn to create a false record indicating that no attempts took place – McGahn refused.
Trump has repeatedly attempted to intimidate or influence witnesses in proceedings against him.
In all, Robert Mueller’s investigation revealed multiple instances where there was “very substantial” evidence that Trump had committed obstruction of justice.
Read more about Donald Trump’s obstruction here.

2. Profiting from the Presidency

The Constitution’s Foreign Emoluments Clause prohibits the president from accepting personal benefits from any foreign government or official.
Trump has retained his ownership interests in his family business while he is in office.
Thus, every time a foreign official stays at a Trump hotel, or a foreign government approves a new Trump Organization project, or grants a trademark, Trump is in violation of the Constitution.
Trump has repeatedly pushed his properties as avenues to secure his favor, and multiple foreign officials have stayed at his properties while lobbying his administration.
Saudi officials, and an Iraqi Sheik stayed at his hotel when lobbying for their interests.
China approved multiple trademarks for his family’s brands while negotiating trade policies.
Trump attempted to promote his club in Doral Florida for the 2020 G-7 Conference.
And every time he goes to golf at a Trump property, he funnels taxpayer money into his family business—violating the Domestic Emoluments Clause.
To date, Trump has spent over $100 million taxpayer dollars to golf and vacation at his own properties.

3. Collusion

In the middle of the 2016 election, Trump’s son was invited to meet with a Russian national regarding “information that would incriminate Hillary and…would be very useful to” Donald Trump. Donald Trump Jr. was told it was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort took the meeting.
Federal law prohibits campaigns from soliciting or accepting anything of value from a foreign national.
Paul Manafort and Rick Gates met with Konstantin Kilimink, likely a Russian spy, multiple times in the summer of 2016 to provide him with internal campaign polling data detailing the Trump campaign’s midwestern strategy. Manafort lied about these meetings to the FBI even after pleading guilty to other crimes.
This relationship between the Trump team and multiple Russian nationals raises questions of whether the campaign aided a hostile foreign power’s active operation against the United States.

4. Advocating Political & Police Violence

When Trump gave cover to the neo-Nazis who rioted in Charlottesville and murdered a protester, he violated his obligation to protect the citizenry against domestic violence.
When Trump encouraged police officers to rough up people they have under arrest, he violated his obligation to oversee faithful execution of the laws.
Trump and his rhetoric have been cited in numerous criminal proceedings as being the inspiration and justification for political violence.
When faced with impeachment in the House, Trump has alluded to his supporters engaging in insurrection to keep him in power – a rallying cry readily picked up by his supporters.

5. Abuse of Power

President Trump threatened to withhold aid from Ukraine if its Prime Minister did not investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son. Using taxpayer dollars to manipulate an important ally against Russia and attack a political rival is a clear abuse of presidential power.
Furthermore, this administration tried to conceal the whistleblower complaint that brought this corruption to light and label the civil servant who filed it as partisan.
In addition, Trump’s decision to pardon Joe Arpaio, who was convicted for contempt of court after ignoring a court order that he stop detaining and searching people based on the color of their skin, amounted to an abuse of the pardon power that revealed his indifference to individual rights, equal protections, and the separation of powers.
Pardoning this conviction goes against the Fifth Amendment, which allows the judiciary to issue and enforce injunctions against government officials who flout individual rights.

6. Engaging in Reckless Conduct

High-ranking administration officials involved in foreign affairs have signaled that Trump does not have the capacity to make informed decisions in the event of a military crisis.
Even worse, his actions could spark a needless confrontation stemming from misunderstanding or miscalculation.
We see this in full effect every time Trump tweets or makes a public statement taunting and threatening the North Korean regime.
The president may be the “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,” but that does not give him the right to behave in reckless or wanton ways that put millions of lives at risk.
If he is unfit to perform his duties as Commander in Chief, he cannot be allowed to remain in the position.

7. Persecuting Political Opponents

President Trump has repeatedly pressured the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate and prosecute political adversaries like Hillary Clinton; now, the DOJ has reopened the Clinton email investigation in an attempt to scandalize his opponents.
This is not based in concerns with national security, law enforcement, or any other function of his office—it is an attempted power play, plain and simple.
Trump also pressured the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden, his potential opponent in the general election, by leveraging US military aide to help his reelection prospects.
Trump and Attorney General Barr have asked foreign intelligence agencies to assist in an investigation to discredit Robert Mueller, hoping to undermine the credibility of the damning Mueller Report.
There’s no question that these actions constitute an outrageous and inappropriate abuse of executive branch powers and serve as clear grounds for impeachment.

8. Attacking the Free Press

President Trump has repeatedly attacked the concept of an independent press.
He’s called critical coverage “fake news” and journalists “the enemy of the American people,” made threats to change libel laws and revoke licenses, and his battles with CNN led him to try to interfere in the AT&T/Time Warner merger.
His Administration has repeatedly and baselessly revoked press credentials for critical coverage.
He has dismissed the murder of a critical journalist, citing the economic partnership the US has with the offending nation.
This demonstrates his unwillingness to respect and uphold the Constitution, and disdain for the crucial foundations to our free society.
Thanks to Free Speech for People, whose white paper, ‘The Legal Case for a Congressional Investigation on Whether to Impeach President Donald J. Trump,’ served as the basis for this list.

9. Violating Immigrants' Right to Due Process

Enforcing its new “zero tolerance” policy, the Trump administration separated as many as 3,000 immigrant children from their parents at the southern border. This policy was meant to deter families from attempting to cross the border.
The children and their families have been held in internment camps and cages with what lawyers call “inhumane conditions.”
Due to negligence, the Trump administration has no plan to reunite all children with their families, even deporting some parents while their children remain detained.
Currently, the Trump administration is in court trying to enforce a policy allowing the administration to detain migrants indefinitely in violation of their constitutional rights.
Thanks to Free Speech for People, ‘New ground for impeachment hearings: cruel and unconstitutional imprisonment of children and their families,’ served as content for this impeachable offense.

10. Violating Campaign Finance Laws

Donald Trump knew disclosure of his extramarital affairs with Stephanie Clifford (A.K.A. Stormy Daniels) and Karen McDougal could hurt his chances at winning the 2016 election.
At the direction of Trump, Michael Cohen and American Media, Inc. (AMI), the publisher of the National Enquirer bought the rights to the women’s stories and forced them to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements to prevent them from going public for the purpose of protecting his campaign.
Cohen admitted to making illegal, hush-money payments to hide Trump’s affairs in the fall of 2016, just weeks before the election.
Federal prosecutors, and Trump’s co-conspirators Cohen and AMI, all say that Cohen made the payments at Trump’s direction, “in concert with the campaign,” and with the intention of helping Trump win.
Trump made illegal reimbursements to Michael Cohen for this crime while President, discussing the illegal scheme while in the Oval Office.
Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator because he directed Cohen to “cause an unlawful corporate contribution” and an “excessive campaign contribution” by paying the two women hush money with the intent to influence the election.
Thanks to Free Speech for People, whose white paper, ‘The Legal Case for a Congressional Investigation on Whether to Impeach President Donald J. Trump,’ served as content for this impeachable offense."

I don't agree with all of the supporting points, but it's a far cry from grabbing P being the ONLY Impeachable offense.

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's not incumbent on me to provide anybody with any evidence of innocence.

It is, however, incumbent upon Democrats and the Legacy Media to provide evidence of Trump's guilt.

They have been remiss in these duties. The ONLY evidence they have of anything that could even be laughingly called wrongdoing is the Billy Bush tapes.


But please, impeach away. I agree with the impeachment proceedings.




It is if you chose to declare him innocent of something. Lord knows you've done a lot of that here. One example, you suggesting he does not deserve impeachment. The next few years are going to be an oh well moment for you and others, as all he tried to block the voters from finding out, one by one is overruled by the courts and we find out. Trump is now being flayed and this is not going to stop with his impeachment.

tick tock sucker. And you are a sucker.

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:12 PM

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Can't wait for Bolton to be subpoenaed. He said he wants to get a chance to make his case against Trumps claims against him.

tick tock tick tock

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:21 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


a billion flies eat shit

As every single talking head says, impeachment is a POLITICAL process, not a judicial one. Whether or not Trump is impeached, and whether or not he's removed, has nothing to do with guilt or innocence, it's a political shitshow ... exactly the same way the Iraq War wasn't a military decision, it was a political shitshow. And, yanno - a billion flies eat shit.

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:26 PM

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Shoo comrade troll

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

a billion flies eat shit

As every single talking head says, impeachment is a POLITICAL process, not a judicial one. Whether or not Trump is impeached, and whether or not he's removed, has nothing to do with guilt or innocence, it's a political shitshow ... exactly the same way the Iraq War wasn't a military decision, it was a political shitshow. And, yanno - a billion flies eat shit.



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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 3:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Can't wait for Bolton to be subpoenaed. He said he wants to get a chance to make his case against Trumps claims against him.

tick tock tick tock

T






There it is. :)

Exactly what I was waiting for.

Let's add Bolton to the list of T's personal heroes.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:03 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

There it is. :)

Exactly what I was waiting for.

Let's add Bolton to the list of T's personal heroes.




Nice try!

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The ONLY evidence they have of anything that could even be laughingly called wrongdoing is the Billy Bush tapes.

https://www.needtoimpeach.com/impeachable-offenses/

"TRUMP'S 10 IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES

1. Obstructing Justice

The trail of evidence starts with Trump’s attempt to get Comey to drop an investigation into National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn.
When he refused, Trump fired James Comey, the FBI director responsible for overseeing the investigation into Trump’s relationship with Russia during the 2016 election.
Trump made two more attempts at stopping the investigation by trying (unsuccessfully) to fire Robert Mueller, Comey’s predecessor. Then, Trump ordered White House Counsel Don McGahn to create a false record indicating that no attempts took place – McGahn refused.
Trump has repeatedly attempted to intimidate or influence witnesses in proceedings against him.
In all, Robert Mueller’s investigation revealed multiple instances where there was “very substantial” evidence that Trump had committed obstruction of justice.
Read more about Donald Trump’s obstruction here.

2. Profiting from the Presidency

The Constitution’s Foreign Emoluments Clause prohibits the president from accepting personal benefits from any foreign government or official.
Trump has retained his ownership interests in his family business while he is in office.
Thus, every time a foreign official stays at a Trump hotel, or a foreign government approves a new Trump Organization project, or grants a trademark, Trump is in violation of the Constitution.
Trump has repeatedly pushed his properties as avenues to secure his favor, and multiple foreign officials have stayed at his properties while lobbying his administration.
Saudi officials, and an Iraqi Sheik stayed at his hotel when lobbying for their interests.
China approved multiple trademarks for his family’s brands while negotiating trade policies.
Trump attempted to promote his club in Doral Florida for the 2020 G-7 Conference.
And every time he goes to golf at a Trump property, he funnels taxpayer money into his family business—violating the Domestic Emoluments Clause.
To date, Trump has spent over $100 million taxpayer dollars to golf and vacation at his own properties.

3. Collusion

In the middle of the 2016 election, Trump’s son was invited to meet with a Russian national regarding “information that would incriminate Hillary and…would be very useful to” Donald Trump. Donald Trump Jr. was told it was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort took the meeting.
Federal law prohibits campaigns from soliciting or accepting anything of value from a foreign national.
Paul Manafort and Rick Gates met with Konstantin Kilimink, likely a Russian spy, multiple times in the summer of 2016 to provide him with internal campaign polling data detailing the Trump campaign’s midwestern strategy. Manafort lied about these meetings to the FBI even after pleading guilty to other crimes.
This relationship between the Trump team and multiple Russian nationals raises questions of whether the campaign aided a hostile foreign power’s active operation against the United States.

4. Advocating Political & Police Violence

When Trump gave cover to the neo-Nazis who rioted in Charlottesville and murdered a protester, he violated his obligation to protect the citizenry against domestic violence.
When Trump encouraged police officers to rough up people they have under arrest, he violated his obligation to oversee faithful execution of the laws.
Trump and his rhetoric have been cited in numerous criminal proceedings as being the inspiration and justification for political violence.
When faced with impeachment in the House, Trump has alluded to his supporters engaging in insurrection to keep him in power – a rallying cry readily picked up by his supporters.

5. Abuse of Power

President Trump threatened to withhold aid from Ukraine if its Prime Minister did not investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son. Using taxpayer dollars to manipulate an important ally against Russia and attack a political rival is a clear abuse of presidential power.
Furthermore, this administration tried to conceal the whistleblower complaint that brought this corruption to light and label the civil servant who filed it as partisan.
In addition, Trump’s decision to pardon Joe Arpaio, who was convicted for contempt of court after ignoring a court order that he stop detaining and searching people based on the color of their skin, amounted to an abuse of the pardon power that revealed his indifference to individual rights, equal protections, and the separation of powers.
Pardoning this conviction goes against the Fifth Amendment, which allows the judiciary to issue and enforce injunctions against government officials who flout individual rights.

6. Engaging in Reckless Conduct

High-ranking administration officials involved in foreign affairs have signaled that Trump does not have the capacity to make informed decisions in the event of a military crisis.
Even worse, his actions could spark a needless confrontation stemming from misunderstanding or miscalculation.
We see this in full effect every time Trump tweets or makes a public statement taunting and threatening the North Korean regime.
The president may be the “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,” but that does not give him the right to behave in reckless or wanton ways that put millions of lives at risk.
If he is unfit to perform his duties as Commander in Chief, he cannot be allowed to remain in the position.

7. Persecuting Political Opponents

President Trump has repeatedly pressured the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate and prosecute political adversaries like Hillary Clinton; now, the DOJ has reopened the Clinton email investigation in an attempt to scandalize his opponents.
This is not based in concerns with national security, law enforcement, or any other function of his office—it is an attempted power play, plain and simple.
Trump also pressured the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden, his potential opponent in the general election, by leveraging US military aide to help his reelection prospects.
Trump and Attorney General Barr have asked foreign intelligence agencies to assist in an investigation to discredit Robert Mueller, hoping to undermine the credibility of the damning Mueller Report.
There’s no question that these actions constitute an outrageous and inappropriate abuse of executive branch powers and serve as clear grounds for impeachment.

8. Attacking the Free Press

President Trump has repeatedly attacked the concept of an independent press.
He’s called critical coverage “fake news” and journalists “the enemy of the American people,” made threats to change libel laws and revoke licenses, and his battles with CNN led him to try to interfere in the AT&T/Time Warner merger.
His Administration has repeatedly and baselessly revoked press credentials for critical coverage.
He has dismissed the murder of a critical journalist, citing the economic partnership the US has with the offending nation.
This demonstrates his unwillingness to respect and uphold the Constitution, and disdain for the crucial foundations to our free society.
Thanks to Free Speech for People, whose white paper, ‘The Legal Case for a Congressional Investigation on Whether to Impeach President Donald J. Trump,’ served as the basis for this list.

9. Violating Immigrants' Right to Due Process

Enforcing its new “zero tolerance” policy, the Trump administration separated as many as 3,000 immigrant children from their parents at the southern border. This policy was meant to deter families from attempting to cross the border.
The children and their families have been held in internment camps and cages with what lawyers call “inhumane conditions.”
Due to negligence, the Trump administration has no plan to reunite all children with their families, even deporting some parents while their children remain detained.
Currently, the Trump administration is in court trying to enforce a policy allowing the administration to detain migrants indefinitely in violation of their constitutional rights.
Thanks to Free Speech for People, ‘New ground for impeachment hearings: cruel and unconstitutional imprisonment of children and their families,’ served as content for this impeachable offense.

10. Violating Campaign Finance Laws

Donald Trump knew disclosure of his extramarital affairs with Stephanie Clifford (A.K.A. Stormy Daniels) and Karen McDougal could hurt his chances at winning the 2016 election.
At the direction of Trump, Michael Cohen and American Media, Inc. (AMI), the publisher of the National Enquirer bought the rights to the women’s stories and forced them to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements to prevent them from going public for the purpose of protecting his campaign.
Cohen admitted to making illegal, hush-money payments to hide Trump’s affairs in the fall of 2016, just weeks before the election.
Federal prosecutors, and Trump’s co-conspirators Cohen and AMI, all say that Cohen made the payments at Trump’s direction, “in concert with the campaign,” and with the intention of helping Trump win.
Trump made illegal reimbursements to Michael Cohen for this crime while President, discussing the illegal scheme while in the Oval Office.
Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator because he directed Cohen to “cause an unlawful corporate contribution” and an “excessive campaign contribution” by paying the two women hush money with the intent to influence the election.
Thanks to Free Speech for People, whose white paper, ‘The Legal Case for a Congressional Investigation on Whether to Impeach President Donald J. Trump,’ served as content for this impeachable offense."

I don't agree with all of the supporting points, but it's a far cry from grabbing P being the ONLY Impeachable offense.

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 8:07 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Wile reading the 10 offensez, I had an idea!

After the senate GoPs let Trump off the hook in the impeachment, everybody boycotts 5th Avenue! The premiis iz that they dont want to get shot by Trump or anybody associated with him, including hiz idiot voterz.

And not just 5th Avenue in NYC, but EVERY 5th Avenue in the nation!



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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Wile reading the 10 offensez, I had an idea!

After the senate GoPs let Trump off the hook in the impeachment, everybody boycotts 5th Avenue! The premiis iz that they dont want to get shot by Trump or anybody associated with him, including hiz idiot voterz.

And not just 5th Avenue in NYC, but EVERY 5th Avenue in the nation!



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http://www.7532020.com .




The City of Gary, IN might take issue with that, since 5th Ave is the main drag and where most of their (Democrat) political offices and taxing authorities are located.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 15, 2019 10:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

There it is. :)

Exactly what I was waiting for.

Let's add Bolton to the list of T's personal heroes.




Nice try!

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The ONLY evidence they have of anything that could even be laughingly called wrongdoing is the Billy Bush tapes.

https://www.needtoimpeach.com/impeachable-offenses/

"TRUMP'S 10 IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES

1. Obstructing Justice

The trail of evidence starts with Trump’s attempt to get Comey to drop an investigation into National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn.
When he refused, Trump fired James Comey, the FBI director responsible for overseeing the investigation into Trump’s relationship with Russia during the 2016 election.
Trump made two more attempts at stopping the investigation by trying (unsuccessfully) to fire Robert Mueller, Comey’s predecessor. Then, Trump ordered White House Counsel Don McGahn to create a false record indicating that no attempts took place – McGahn refused.
Trump has repeatedly attempted to intimidate or influence witnesses in proceedings against him.
In all, Robert Mueller’s investigation revealed multiple instances where there was “very substantial” evidence that Trump had committed obstruction of justice.
Read more about Donald Trump’s obstruction here.

2. Profiting from the Presidency

The Constitution’s Foreign Emoluments Clause prohibits the president from accepting personal benefits from any foreign government or official.
Trump has retained his ownership interests in his family business while he is in office.
Thus, every time a foreign official stays at a Trump hotel, or a foreign government approves a new Trump Organization project, or grants a trademark, Trump is in violation of the Constitution.
Trump has repeatedly pushed his properties as avenues to secure his favor, and multiple foreign officials have stayed at his properties while lobbying his administration.
Saudi officials, and an Iraqi Sheik stayed at his hotel when lobbying for their interests.
China approved multiple trademarks for his family’s brands while negotiating trade policies.
Trump attempted to promote his club in Doral Florida for the 2020 G-7 Conference.
And every time he goes to golf at a Trump property, he funnels taxpayer money into his family business—violating the Domestic Emoluments Clause.
To date, Trump has spent over $100 million taxpayer dollars to golf and vacation at his own properties.

3. Collusion

In the middle of the 2016 election, Trump’s son was invited to meet with a Russian national regarding “information that would incriminate Hillary and…would be very useful to” Donald Trump. Donald Trump Jr. was told it was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort took the meeting.
Federal law prohibits campaigns from soliciting or accepting anything of value from a foreign national.
Paul Manafort and Rick Gates met with Konstantin Kilimink, likely a Russian spy, multiple times in the summer of 2016 to provide him with internal campaign polling data detailing the Trump campaign’s midwestern strategy. Manafort lied about these meetings to the FBI even after pleading guilty to other crimes.
This relationship between the Trump team and multiple Russian nationals raises questions of whether the campaign aided a hostile foreign power’s active operation against the United States.

4. Advocating Political & Police Violence

When Trump gave cover to the neo-Nazis who rioted in Charlottesville and murdered a protester, he violated his obligation to protect the citizenry against domestic violence.
When Trump encouraged police officers to rough up people they have under arrest, he violated his obligation to oversee faithful execution of the laws.
Trump and his rhetoric have been cited in numerous criminal proceedings as being the inspiration and justification for political violence.
When faced with impeachment in the House, Trump has alluded to his supporters engaging in insurrection to keep him in power – a rallying cry readily picked up by his supporters.

5. Abuse of Power

President Trump threatened to withhold aid from Ukraine if its Prime Minister did not investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son. Using taxpayer dollars to manipulate an important ally against Russia and attack a political rival is a clear abuse of presidential power.
Furthermore, this administration tried to conceal the whistleblower complaint that brought this corruption to light and label the civil servant who filed it as partisan.
In addition, Trump’s decision to pardon Joe Arpaio, who was convicted for contempt of court after ignoring a court order that he stop detaining and searching people based on the color of their skin, amounted to an abuse of the pardon power that revealed his indifference to individual rights, equal protections, and the separation of powers.
Pardoning this conviction goes against the Fifth Amendment, which allows the judiciary to issue and enforce injunctions against government officials who flout individual rights.

6. Engaging in Reckless Conduct

High-ranking administration officials involved in foreign affairs have signaled that Trump does not have the capacity to make informed decisions in the event of a military crisis.
Even worse, his actions could spark a needless confrontation stemming from misunderstanding or miscalculation.
We see this in full effect every time Trump tweets or makes a public statement taunting and threatening the North Korean regime.
The president may be the “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States,” but that does not give him the right to behave in reckless or wanton ways that put millions of lives at risk.
If he is unfit to perform his duties as Commander in Chief, he cannot be allowed to remain in the position.

7. Persecuting Political Opponents

President Trump has repeatedly pressured the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate and prosecute political adversaries like Hillary Clinton; now, the DOJ has reopened the Clinton email investigation in an attempt to scandalize his opponents.
This is not based in concerns with national security, law enforcement, or any other function of his office—it is an attempted power play, plain and simple.
Trump also pressured the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden, his potential opponent in the general election, by leveraging US military aide to help his reelection prospects.
Trump and Attorney General Barr have asked foreign intelligence agencies to assist in an investigation to discredit Robert Mueller, hoping to undermine the credibility of the damning Mueller Report.
There’s no question that these actions constitute an outrageous and inappropriate abuse of executive branch powers and serve as clear grounds for impeachment.

8. Attacking the Free Press

President Trump has repeatedly attacked the concept of an independent press.
He’s called critical coverage “fake news” and journalists “the enemy of the American people,” made threats to change libel laws and revoke licenses, and his battles with CNN led him to try to interfere in the AT&T/Time Warner merger.
His Administration has repeatedly and baselessly revoked press credentials for critical coverage.
He has dismissed the murder of a critical journalist, citing the economic partnership the US has with the offending nation.
This demonstrates his unwillingness to respect and uphold the Constitution, and disdain for the crucial foundations to our free society.
Thanks to Free Speech for People, whose white paper, ‘The Legal Case for a Congressional Investigation on Whether to Impeach President Donald J. Trump,’ served as the basis for this list.

9. Violating Immigrants' Right to Due Process

Enforcing its new “zero tolerance” policy, the Trump administration separated as many as 3,000 immigrant children from their parents at the southern border. This policy was meant to deter families from attempting to cross the border.
The children and their families have been held in internment camps and cages with what lawyers call “inhumane conditions.”
Due to negligence, the Trump administration has no plan to reunite all children with their families, even deporting some parents while their children remain detained.
Currently, the Trump administration is in court trying to enforce a policy allowing the administration to detain migrants indefinitely in violation of their constitutional rights.
Thanks to Free Speech for People, ‘New ground for impeachment hearings: cruel and unconstitutional imprisonment of children and their families,’ served as content for this impeachable offense.

10. Violating Campaign Finance Laws

Donald Trump knew disclosure of his extramarital affairs with Stephanie Clifford (A.K.A. Stormy Daniels) and Karen McDougal could hurt his chances at winning the 2016 election.
At the direction of Trump, Michael Cohen and American Media, Inc. (AMI), the publisher of the National Enquirer bought the rights to the women’s stories and forced them to sign Non-Disclosure Agreements to prevent them from going public for the purpose of protecting his campaign.
Cohen admitted to making illegal, hush-money payments to hide Trump’s affairs in the fall of 2016, just weeks before the election.
Federal prosecutors, and Trump’s co-conspirators Cohen and AMI, all say that Cohen made the payments at Trump’s direction, “in concert with the campaign,” and with the intention of helping Trump win.
Trump made illegal reimbursements to Michael Cohen for this crime while President, discussing the illegal scheme while in the Oval Office.
Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator because he directed Cohen to “cause an unlawful corporate contribution” and an “excessive campaign contribution” by paying the two women hush money with the intent to influence the election.
Thanks to Free Speech for People, whose white paper, ‘The Legal Case for a Congressional Investigation on Whether to Impeach President Donald J. Trump,’ served as content for this impeachable offense."

I don't agree with all of the supporting points, but it's a far cry from grabbing P being the ONLY Impeachable offense.




Did you quote the wrong thing when you made this reply?

I don't see how it has any relevance to T becoming a Bolton fan (like I said many weeks ago would happen).


Sorry, bub. There's only one Bolton who is awesome, and his first name ain't Johnny.





BTW... none of those bullet points are legit. Either they are flat out not criminal "offenses" (which only some people are even offended by), but the rest of them are hearsay and/or anonymous claims with no actual evidence to back them up.

Feelz aren't prosecutable. Sorry.

But by all means, impeach away. Nothing stopping the Dems from doing it.

This will be hilarious.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 16, 2019 1:46 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:


7. Persecuting Political Opponents

President Trump has repeatedly pressured the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate and prosecute political adversaries like Hillary Clinton; now, the DOJ has reopened the Clinton email investigation in an attempt to scandalize his opponents.
This is not based in concerns with national security, law enforcement, or any other function of his office—it is an attempted power play, plain and simple.
Trump also pressured the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden, his potential opponent in the general election, by leveraging US military aide to help his reelection prospects.
Trump and Attorney General Barr have asked foreign intelligence agencies to assist in an investigation to discredit Robert Mueller, hoping to undermine the credibility of the damning Mueller Report.
There’s no question that these actions constitute an outrageous and inappropriate abuse of executive branch powers and serve as clear grounds for impeachment.



I keep thinking even his slimy base has to get tired of being pointed at the persona non grata of the week, then I remember they LIKE being told who to hate.
I mean, "Supremacy" is the Sudoku of the Republican party.





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Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:39 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Key witnesses are ignoring Trump and delivering bombshell testimony in Democrats’ Ukraine investigation.

Donald Trump's impeachment blockade has collapsed.

On Wednesday, Michael McKinley, who abruptly resigned last week as a top aide to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, intends to testify before lawmakers.

On Thursday, lawmakers are expected to hear from Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union whose text messages revealed by lawmakers indicated he was aware of efforts to pressure Ukrainian officials to investigate Biden. Sondland reportedly is ready to deflect any blame onto Trump about whether there was a quid pro quo involving military aid to Ukraine or a meeting between Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart in Washington.

On Friday, Congressional investigators will hear from Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense Laura Cooper, who oversees Russia- and Ukraine-related matters at the Pentagon.

More at www.politico.com/news/2019/10/15/donald-trump-impeachment-ukraine-inve
stigation-046915


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, October 16, 2019 9:09 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
BTW... none of those bullet points are legit. Either they are flat out not criminal "offenses" (which only some people are even offended by), but the rest of them are hearsay and/or anonymous claims with no actual evidence to back them up.



What a great debating strategy! "Nuh-uh!" Waving that big red "Clueless" flag again.

Clearly, Trump's Ukraine phone transcript is evidence at the very least of abuse of power. I suppose you can go turtle and keep saying "nuh-uh!" about everything though - have at it.

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