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Prizon or execution?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:28 AM

JO753

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My opinion iz that its better to keep sum criminalz alive for future reserch. At least for books & moviez, but also sientific study.

Trump and hiz co-conspiratorz are a good exampl.

On the other hand, it may be nesusary for the future helth uv the nation to make an exampl uv them. Treazon = a speedy path to execution.

The entire Trump administration and top campane officialz. Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, all the GoP congressmen and senatorz that are helping with the coverup, Hannity and all the propagandists.

A clean sweep to show future jenerationz that Uncle Sam takes betrayal seriously.

Then therez the compromize option. Sumthing that works better in the real world.

Execute Trump, Pence, Kushner, Don Jr, and all thoze directly involved in the conspirasy. Everybody hoo just partisipated in the coverup get very long prizon termz, depending on their level uv partisipation. And maybe sum slammer time for all the dedbeat Demz for deriliction uv duty.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:31 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I read your title and I thought - Who is he writing about? Epstein? Brennan? Mueller? and then I read your text and I thought: Another one - gone down the rabbit hole.

Jeez, JO, what happened to you? The only conspiracy that I see is the conspiracy to try and entrap Trump. Even Mueller couldn't find one. In your humble opinion, is everyone in league with Trump???

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:24 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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wow

Never thought we'd be adding JO to the list.



Is this what you see for your future, Captain?

This might be why T has already largely tuned out. I don't think he's on board with any of this.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:31 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:


Execute Trump, Pence, Kushner, Don Jr, and all thoze directly involved in the conspirasy. Everybody hoo just partisipated in the coverup get very long prizon termz, depending on their level uv partisipation. And maybe sum slammer time for all the dedbeat Demz for deriliction uv duty.



What I just don't get is the sudden love for fascism. I mean, we still make people take some history, right? Do they really think it'll finally go well for the hundredth time, or what???

To WANT to achieve that level of OCD about what everyone else is doing is just... epic insanity...

I just don't get it









Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:35 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
wow

Never thought we'd be adding JO to the list.




Then you haven't been paying atten...I mean... OF COURSE you don't pay attention. Silly me.

When every person that has two brain cells firing has denounced Trump and you're still oblivious, maybe it's time to consider THE PROBLEM HERE IS YOU.






Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:43 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

When every person that has two brain cells firing has denounced Trump



JO just called for his execution.

Second is calling for his assassination.

Go to dictionary.com and tell me what the definition of denounce is.





While you're at it, you should look up the word fascism. Maybe if you knew what it means you'd stop practicing it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 8:01 AM

SECOND

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

When every person that has two brain cells firing has denounced Trump



JO just called for his execution.

Second is calling for his assassination.

Go to dictionary.com and tell me what the definition of denounce is.

While you're at it, you should look up the word fascism. Maybe if you knew what it means you'd stop practicing it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Have you ever watched Firefly? The entire cast, the production crew at FOX, the Firefly writers, and the executive producer Joss Whedon were calling for instantaneous executions of people who were annoying or in the way of Mal. Where were the judges for the poor people about to die? Where was the jury? When was the sentencing phase by a compassionate judge? None of that was on Firefly. Mal, Zoe, Jayne and River were always skipping over all those intermediate steps and going directly to execution in less than a minute after the soon to be dead man offended the sensibilities of the crew of Serenity. On the other hand, Trump has had a lot more than a minute to annoy people. It's time to make up your mind about Trump, take careful aim at him, then pull the trigger. Or vote against Trump, whichever action pleases you more. Do it to memorialize Firefly!

Just now I remembered that Trump has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. He is only an actor playing a part. If anybody kills him, there will be fake blood. Then he will stand up and the camera crew will shoot the next scene.

"I Am Donald Trump’s Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and I’ve Seen Enough. It’s Time for Impeachment."
https://slate.com/culture/2019/04/donald-trump-star-hollywood-walk-of-
fame-impeachment.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 8:02 AM

JO753

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Az I sed - I favor putting them in prizon.

But think about the future, lets say 2060, and another Trumpish candidate iz prezented with an offer to steal the election by Vladimir Putin III, Emperor uv the Soviet Union.

If he thinks 'wuts the worst that can happen? Life in a cushy prizon sell and they will make a bunch uv moviez about me' therez not much to deter him. He will be remembered az a villian, but its better than not being remembered at all.


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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 10:19 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
wow

Never thought we'd be adding JO to the list.

Is this what you see for your future, Captain?

This might be why T has already largely tuned out. I don't think he's on board with any of this.




Where's Mr. Free Speech now? Yep, didn't think so.

Can't believe I'm going to say this... I'm with James Comey and Nancy P. in one respect: it would be better for the country if he was voted out of office over impeachment. We need to see we can defeat someone like him democratically for the very reason Jo is discussing - namely the future.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 11:06 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So JO ... you still convinced, beyond all LACK of evidence ... that Trump was some sort of Manchurian candidate? Is THAT his major crime, IYHO?

*****

WISHY, have you ever watched Serenity? What was the Alliance's major crime? Killing a planet-full of people in order to make a perfect world? If you recall that, then you'll understand your big problem.

*****

SECOND, calling for the assasination of a President, like defamation, is still illegal but potentially a LOT more consequential. Keep doing that and the Secret Service just might take an interest in you. There is a lot of the Alliance in the USA ... Joss said he based the Alliance on America ... and much needs to be corrected. But the only way you're going to correct the problems and make it stick is when a LOT of people decide to do something. I agree with CC about that. Otherwise, it's just your brand of personal terrorism/jihad.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 11:48 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So JO ... you still convinced, beyond all LACK of evidence ... that Trump was some sort of Manchurian candidate? Is THAT his major crime, IYHO?



He literally, on tv, in front of the world, asked Russia to help him reduce Clinton's chances. "Russia, if you're listening..."
His son, in a now public email, literally asked for Russian assistance to defeat Clinton.

Just 2 examples of explicit, guilty as fuk evidence.

People who keep saying "no evidence," just believe it's better to lie when they're guilty. Just like lying about the Mueller Report exonerating him, or "I was down at the scene of 9/11," and on and on and on and on...

Hard to believe so many people defend this lying sos, like there's nothing better.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 11:53 AM

JONGSSTRAW


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
wow

Never thought we'd be adding JO to the list.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


Surprising yes, but as they say, once a libtard, always a libtard. Oh well, chalk up another victim of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:03 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:


So JO ... you still convinced, beyond all LACK of evidence ... that Trump was some sort of Manchurian candidate? Is THAT his major crime, IYHO

He literally, on tv, in front of the world, asked Russia to help him reduce Clinton's chances. "Russia, if you're listening..."= CC

Jesus Christos, son it was a joke! Look at him! He's smiling! As humor-deficient as I am, even I recognized it was a joke!

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His son, in a now public email, literally asked for Russian assistance to defeat Clinton.-CC
Who was he emailing? Putin? LINKS PLEASE


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:36 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:


So JO ... you still convinced, beyond all LACK of evidence ... that Trump was some sort of Manchurian candidate? Is THAT his major crime, IYHO

He literally, on tv, in front of the world, asked Russia to help him reduce Clinton's chances. "Russia, if you're listening..."= CC

Jesus Christos, son it was a joke! Look at him! He's smiling! As humor-deficient as I am, even I recognized it was a joke!





Literally the worst defense eva. "I was joking your honor!"

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

His son, in a now public email, literally asked for Russian assistance to defeat Clinton.-CC
Who was he emailing? Putin? LINKS PLEASE



Wow, gee golly! You never heard of the meeting he had with a number of Russian representatives offering dirt on Hillary?
You slip into liar/stupid deflection mode so effortlessly...

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Even a judge would recognize it as a joke! Only someone with a stick up their ass would force a joke so far out of context. And besides, this had nothing to do with the DNC emails, it was about Hillary's subpoenaed, bleach-bitted emails. It was a slam on Hillary, a reminder of her illegal (obstruction of justice) activity and a reference to the FBI's ongoing investigation of her emails, not an "ask" for help.

Yes, I've heard of the meeting. A Russian (who BTW spent a lot of time meeting with Fusion GPS, the same group that worked with Steele to provide the now-discredted "dossier") offered dirt but then did a "bait and switch". Given this Russian's meetings with Fusion GPS's Glenn Simpson both before and after the meeting in Trump Tower, this looks like another setup/ entrapment. And since nothing was produced that could possible help Trump, there's no "quid pro quo" over which Trump owes anybody anything.

But what about that EMAIL that you referred to? Where is it?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 12:55 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Where's Mr. Free Speech now? Yep, didn't think so.



Did I call for censorship? Did I go running to Haken to "make the bad people stop"?

No. I didn't.

I'm making commentary on the sick state of things right now. You've also got lefty jurnos now claiming that if Trump gets re-elected it will be the beginning of the 2nd Civil War in America too.

Of course, that's not going to happen either. The only people who think like the ones who are apparently losing their minds are the very small userbase in America who watches the MSM or reads Vox everyday, and even then I would imagine it's just a small fraction of that demographic.



Thanks for keeping your sanity more or less. I hope you still have it when Trump wins in 2020.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:29 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:



WISHY, have you ever watched Serenity? What was the Alliance's major crime? Killing a planet-full of people in order to make a perfect world? If you recall that, then you'll understand your big problem.




They had a 100 worlds. I would still take out a planet full of fascist lovers and sleep well at night

So would Mal. That's what he was FIGHTING A WAR AGAINST. Yanno, the kind of thing you hate??

BTW, Mal's big speech in Serenity WAS ABOUT FIGHTING FASCISM. "Making people better" was about controlling people. Controlling ACTIONS. Slavery. The horror of Miranda is that they were trying to control the people and they controlled them to death. You only see the dead and NOT that they were poisoning an entire population.

We don't want to control people, we want them to NOT CONTROL OTHERS.

Ends justifies the means.

EVERY TIME.












Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:



WISHY, have you ever watched Serenity? What was the Alliance's major crime? Killing a planet-full of people in order to make a perfect world? If you recall that, then you'll understand your big problem.




They had a 100 worlds. I would still take out a planet full of fascist lovers and sleep well at night

So would Mal. That's what he was FIGHTING A WAR AGAINST. Yanno, the kind of thing you hate??

BTW, Mal's big speech in Serenity WAS ABOUT FIGHTING FASCISM. "Making people better" was about controlling people. Controlling ACTIONS. Slavery. The horror of Miranda is that they were trying to control the people and they controlled them to death. You only see the dead and NOT that they were poisoning an entire population.

We don't want to control people, we want them to NOT CONTROL OTHERS.

Ends justifies the means.

EVERY TIME.












Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!




"WE WILL FIGHT FASCISM WITH FASCISM!!!!" ~Nilbog, Misery

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Az I sed - I favor putting them in prizon.

No JO, you didn't. You proposed execution. In fact, you proposed MASS execution. Though I fail to see any mention of charges, trials, and convictions, before sentencing. Just straight to the executions. Right JO?
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
But think about the future, lets say 2060, and another Trumpish candidate iz prezented with an offer to steal the election by Vladimir Putin III, Emperor uv the Soviet Union.

If he thinks 'wuts the worst that can happen? Life in a cushy prizon sell and they will make a bunch uv moviez about me' therez not much to deter him. He will be remembered az a villian, but its better than not being remembered at all.


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http://www.7532020.com .

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
My opinion iz that its better to keep sum criminalz alive for future reserch. At least for books & moviez, but also sientific study.

Trump and hiz co-conspiratorz are a good exampl.

On the other hand, it may be nesusary for the future helth uv the nation to make an exampl uv them. Treazon = a speedy path to HERE execution.

HERE The entire Trump administration and top campane officialz. Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, all the GoP congressmen and senatorz that are helping with the coverup, Hannity and all the propagandists.

HERE A clean sweep to show future jenerationz that Uncle Sam takes betrayal seriously.

Then therez the compromize option. Sumthing that works better in the real world.

HERE Execute Trump, Pence, Kushner, Don Jr, and all thoze directly involved in the conspirasy. Everybody hoo just partisipated in the coverup get very long prizon termz, depending on their level uv partisipation. And maybe sum slammer time for all the dedbeat Demz for deriliction uv duty.






And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

When every person that has two brain cells firing has denounced Trump

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

JO just called for his execution.

Second is calling for his assassination.

Go to dictionary.com and tell me what the definition of denounce is.

While you're at it, you should look up the word fascism. Maybe if you knew what it means you'd stop practicing it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)


Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Have you ever watched Firefly? The entire cast, the production crew at FOX, the Firefly writers, and the executive producer Joss Whedon were calling for instantaneous executions of people who were annoying or in the way of Mal. Where were the judges for the poor people about to die? Where was the jury? When was the sentencing phase by a compassionate judge? None of that was on Firefly. Mal, Zoe, Jayne and River were always skipping over all those intermediate steps and going directly to execution in less than a minute after the soon to be dead man offended the sensibilities of the crew of Serenity. On the other hand, Trump has had a lot more than a minute to annoy people. It's time to make up your mind about Trump, take careful aim at him, then pull the trigger. Or vote against Trump, whichever action pleases you more. Do it to memorialize Firefly!

Just now I remembered that Trump has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. He is only an actor playing a part. If anybody kills him, there will be fake blood. Then he will stand up and the camera crew will shoot the next scene.

"I Am Donald Trump’s Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and I’ve Seen Enough. It’s Time for Impeachment."
https://slate.com/culture/2019/04/donald-trump-star-hollywood-walk-of-
fame-impeachment.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



SLOPPY SECONDS has GOT to be participating in some coordinated 'get out of jail free' scheme going on here along with WHIZZY with the pretense of insanity.

I have no other interpretation for this ridiculous attempt to equate a fiction about someplace that never existed and never will exist, with the real world and his real world posts about assassinating Trump.




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
wow

Never thought we'd be adding JO to the list.

Is this what you see for your future, Captain?

This might be why T has already largely tuned out. I don't think he's on board with any of this.

He may have better legal advice, as does CC after all his libelous posts got 'accidentally' scrubbed from the database.
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Where's Mr. Free Speech now? Yep, didn't think so.

Can't believe I'm going to say this... I'm with James Comey and Nancy P. in one respect: it would be better for the country if he was voted out of office over impeachment. We need to see we can defeat someone like him democratically for the very reason Jo is discussing - namely the future.

And if that DOESN'T happen? What will you propose then?




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

They had a 100 worlds. I would still take out a planet full of fascist lovers and sleep well at night

So would Mal. That's what he was FIGHTING A WAR AGAINST. Yanno, the kind of thing you hate??

BTW, Mal's big speech in Serenity WAS ABOUT FIGHTING FASCISM. "Making people better" was about controlling people. Controlling ACTIONS. Slavery. The horror of Miranda is that they were trying to control the people and they controlled them to death. You only see the dead and NOT that they were poisoning an entire population.

We don't want to control people, we want them to NOT CONTROL OTHERS.

By killing everyone to keep them from being 'controlled'? Is that how you 'rescue' them?
Quote:

Ends justifies the means.
You mean, ensuring peoples' freedom by killing them?
Quote:



EVERY TIME.
Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!






And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:28 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Thanks for keeping your sanity more or less. I hope you still have it when Trump wins in 2020.



When the day comes and you have a wife and kids and a steady job and a house... and you are a bit older... IF that is what you want... then you might realize the people on this board that have such intense dislike for that lying pos are the sane ones. Did you see where he just claimed in front of an audience of 9/11 first responders that he was, "down there, I was down there a lot."

Trump won't hurt me personally as much as he hurts the country. I already said his moment in the sun - f*cking sh*t up - will only make us stronger.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I agree that the lot should be imprisoned. Hilliary, Clapper, Comey, Lynch, Obama, Juh, Kerry, Lois Lerner, McCabe, Stzrok, Page, Rosenstien, Mueller, Yates, Brennan, Abadeem, Willis, every member of the Mueller Witch-Hunt Team, et al.
And they should be on display, for visitors to view, like in a zoo. But no communication, no further feces flinging.




Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
WISHY, have you ever watched Serenity? What was the Alliance's major crime? Killing a planet-full of people in order to make a perfect world? If you recall that, then you'll understand your big problem.

They had a 100 worlds. I would still take out a planet full of fascist lovers and sleep well at night

So would Mal. That's what he was FIGHTING A WAR AGAINST. Yanno, the kind of thing you hate??

BTW, Mal's big speech in Serenity WAS ABOUT FIGHTING FASCISM. "Making people better" was about controlling people. Controlling ACTIONS. Slavery. The horror of Miranda is that they were trying to control the people and they controlled them to death. You only see the dead and NOT that they were poisoning an entire population.

We don't want to control people, we want them to NOT CONTROL OTHERS.

Ends justifies the means.

EVERY TIME.



Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

"WE WILL FIGHT FASCISM WITH FASCISM!!!!" ~Nilbog, Misery

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Is that the motto of the Antifa Fascists? Seems about right.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 3:54 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Even a judge would recognize it as a joke! Only someone with a stick up their ass would force a joke so far out of context.



You mean like someone who would threaten a lawsuit for being name called on an empty scifi forum???? I think you just blew your case, counselor. Careful where you sit. "We were joking!"

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And since nothing was produced that could possible help Trump, there's no "quid pro quo" over which Trump owes anybody anything.



How do you know what was or wasn't produced? Because Jarod said so? NPR?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Even a judge would recognize it as a joke! Only someone with a stick up their ass would force a joke so far out of context.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
You mean like someone who would threaten a lawsuit for being name called on an empty scifi forum???? I think you just blew your case, counselor. Careful where you sit. "We were joking!"

Well THAT's a deflection if I ever saw one! Where did you learn that trick?
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And since nothing was produced that could possible help Trump, there's no "quid pro quo" over which Trump owes anybody anything.

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
How do you know what was or wasn't produced? Because Jarod said so? NPR?

No, because MUELLER said so, you nitwit!



What.

You don't trust Mueller now?


The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/ rinse/ spin/ repeat/ cycle they mistake for the real world.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:14 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Can't believe I'm going to say this... I'm with James Comey and Nancy P. in one respect: it would be better for the country if he was voted out of office over impeachment.



We need to do both.

If the Democrats do not impeach, they will kill voter enthuziazm for their party. 75%+ uv the reazon peepl vote for either party iz to keep the other party out uv offis. If they arent going to uze the power we giv them, they are useless.

Good for me, but too little too late. The GoPs & the GRU are going to be working furiously 24/7 to rig the next election.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:35 PM

JO753

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So JO ... you still convinced, beyond all LACK of evidence



Still going with that?

Normal peepl dont lie if they know that the person they are tokking to knowz the truth. Trump haz sum sort uv mental defect that makes him do it all the time. Now the GoPs do it az a regular part uv their propaganda.

I am beginning to think therez a closer relation between the GRU (or iz the FSB?) and the GoP than anybody realized.

Quote:


... that Trump was some sort of Manchurian candidate? Is THAT his major crime, IYHO?



IMBO, yes. Treazon iz the main charj. But I also boldly claim therez a jiant freighter load uv crimez going back 40 yirz that the treazon iz based on.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:51 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So JO ... you still convinced, beyond all LACK of evidence

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Still going with that?

Do you have any evidence to back up your suppositions that there's some colossal hidden scheme?
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Normal peepl dont lie if they know that the person they are tokking to knowz the truth. Trump haz sum sort uv mental defect that makes him do it all the time.

JO, you're scrambling your narrative and inventing suppositions to justify your lack of facts. Here you're saying Trump lies because it's in his nature, that it's an individual mental defect.
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Now the GoPs do it az a regular part uv their propaganda.
And here you're supposing it's not about the individual mental defect of one person, but a planned, intentional choice of many.
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I am beginning to think therez a closer relation between the GRU (or iz the FSB?) and the GoP than anybody realized.

Based on WHAT, JO? WHAT evidence?
I'm sorry to see you've given free reign to a paranoid part of your thinking, and have failed to adequately challenge it with facts, or their lack.
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
... that Trump was some sort of Manchurian candidate? Is THAT his major crime, IYHO?

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
IMBO, yes. Treazon iz the main charj.

WHAT treason, JO? Specifically, WHAT FACTS support your 'feelz'? WHAT instances do you claim?
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
But I also boldly claim therez a jiant freighter load uv crimez going back 40 yirz that the treazon iz based on.

Such as WHAT, JO? What freighter load of crimes do you know of?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:17 PM

WISHIMAY

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Quote:


Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:



"WE WILL FIGHT FASCISM WITH FASCISM!!!!"





FASCISM IS VIOLENCE PERSONIFIED. The only way to fight violence IS WITH BIGGER VIOLENCE.

They control your food supply, they control the availability of ALL information, they control where you work and what you work for. They control breeding. They control CHOICE!

I understand how someone as clueless as you, who doesn't even know what to do with himself on any given day could LIKE that idea, but some of us HAVE BRAINS and can THINK FOR OURSELVES.

You wanna go start a Volunteer Fascist Society, please, GO ELSEWHERE AND DO IT. And good riddance!








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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:21 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

FASCISM IS VIOLENCE PERSONIFIED.

I guess that makes you a fascist.


And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:22 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:


I have no other interpretation for this ridiculous attempt to equate a fiction about someplace that never existed and never will exist, with the real world and his real world posts about assassinating Trump.




Aww, poor thing is so lost she's forgotten WHAT FAN SITE SHE'S ON.

And she knows she'd lose, so let's do the "I'm not gonna play your game" dance.





Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:26 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

I guess that makes you a fascist.




You started it by supporting ultra-violence FIRST. I promise, you keep going... I'LL END IT.





Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

FASCISM IS VIOLENCE PERSONIFIED. The only way to fight violence IS WITH BIGGER VIOLENCE.



WE WILL FIGHT FASCISM WITH ULTRA-SUPER-DUPER-FASCISM!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
You started it by supporting ultra-violence FIRST.

Where's that quote?


The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the SPIN/ wash/ rinse/ repeat/ cycle they mistake for the real world.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:44 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Such as WHAT, JO? What freighter load of crimes do you know of?



Morons like you think Gotti was REALLY only guilty of tax evasion

I would say the only thing Trump has been marginally effective at is covering up his shit AFTER he's been accused of it. It's really his only power...

Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:47 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Where's that quote?





I just pictured you typing that with a malicious little twinkle in your eye.

Funny, I don't NEED a "quote" to understand you support Russia. A silent vote for fascism is all I need to convict.

GUILTY!

Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 6:59 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


WE WILL FIGHT FASCISM WITH ULTRA-SUPER-DUPER-FASCISM!!!




You got a better idea, I, and all the rest of strategists and philosophers throughout history would LOOOOVE to hear it.

Go on, I'm waiting...






Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:17 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Actually, starting a volunteer fascist society isn't a half bad idea. Maybe I'm on to something....

You people who really like having someone else make all your major decisions for you should start your own hive mind project somewhere.

I'm sure you'll be forced to have lots of children, because it won't be a popular way of life, but if the Amish can do it for hundreds of years SO CAN YOU.

Seriously, this could be the solution you are looking for!






Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:25 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


PSS. Apologies to Jo for jacking your post, but the root of the problem here is that they don't think Chump is a fascist -or if he is- that that isn't a bad thing because they think people need to be controlled.

If people like being controlled, go somewhere else and be controlled. I won't take your mindless shit here.

Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:42 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
PSS. Apologies to Jo for jacking your post, but the root of the problem here is that they don't think Chump is a fascist -or if he is- that that isn't a bad thing because they think people need to be controlled.

If people like being controlled, go somewhere else and be controlled. I won't take your mindless shit here.

Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!



WHO EXACTLY is Trump controlling?

Be specific.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


WE WILL FIGHT FASCISM WITH ULTRA-SUPER-DUPER-FASCISM!!!




You got a better idea, I, and all the rest of strategists and philosophers throughout history would LOOOOVE to hear it.

Go on, I'm waiting...



Show me one single strategist or philosopher that says the only way to fight fascism is with fascism.

I won't even honor your question with a reply until you do.

Go on, I'm waiting...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


After claiming I somehow 'started it' (with threats no less) ...
Quote:

Originally posted by WHIZZY:
You started it by supporting ultra-violence FIRST. I promise, you keep going... I'LL END IT.

... and then being unable to come up with even one example how I 'started it' ...
Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

Funny, I don't NEED a "quote" to understand you support Russia. A silent vote for fascism is all I need to convict.

WHIZZY declares me GUILTY ...
Quote:

Originally posted by WHIZZY:
GUILTY!

... of not posting anything.

In other words WHIZZY - all you seem to be able to do is make yourself look like an unhinged idiot.


And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:47 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Where's that quote?





I just pictured you typing that with a malicious little twinkle in your eye.

Funny, I don't NEED a "quote" to understand you support Russia. A silent vote for fascism is all I need to convict.

GUILTY!

Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!


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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

I guess that makes you a fascist.




You started it by supporting ultra-violence FIRST. I promise, you keep going... I'LL END IT.





Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!


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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:51 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, I didn't want to let this get lost in WHIZZY's tripe. I hope you have a thought-out reply, JO, in this thread or the other. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&p=20
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So JO ... you still convinced, beyond all LACK of evidence

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Still going with that?

Do you have any evidence to back up your suppositions that there's some colossal hidden scheme?
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Normal peepl dont lie if they know that the person they are tokking to knowz the truth. Trump haz sum sort uv mental defect that makes him do it all the time.

JO, you're scrambling your narrative and inventing suppositions to justify your lack of facts. Here you're saying Trump lies because it's in his nature, that it's an individual mental defect.
Quote:

Now the GoPs do it az a regular part uv their propaganda.
And here you're supposing it's not about the individual mental defect of one person, but a planned, intentional choice of many.
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I am beginning to think therez a closer relation between the GRU (or iz the FSB?) and the GoP than anybody realized.

Based on WHAT, JO? WHAT evidence?
I'm sorry to see you've given free reign to a paranoid part of your thinking, and have failed to adequately challenge it with facts, or their lack.
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
... that Trump was some sort of Manchurian candidate? Is THAT his major crime, IYHO?

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
IMBO, yes. Treazon iz the main charj.

WHAT treason, JO? Specifically, WHAT FACTS support your 'feelz'? WHAT instances do you claim?
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
But I also boldly claim therez a jiant freighter load uv crimez going back 40 yirz that the treazon iz based on.

Such as WHAT, JO? What freighter load of crimes do you know of?

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 8:35 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

Quote:


Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:



"WE WILL FIGHT FASCISM WITH FASCISM!!!!"





FASCISM IS VIOLENCE PERSONIFIED. The only way to fight violence IS WITH BIGGER VIOLENCE.

They control your food supply, they control the availability of ALL information, they control where you work and what you work for. They control breeding. They control CHOICE!

I understand how someone as clueless as you, who doesn't even know what to do with himself on any given day could LIKE that idea, but some of us HAVE BRAINS and can THINK FOR OURSELVES.

You wanna go start a Volunteer Fascist Society, please, GO ELSEWHERE AND DO IT. And good riddance!









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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 8:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


WE WILL FIGHT FASCISM WITH ULTRA-SUPER-DUPER-FASCISM!!!




You got a better idea, I, and all the rest of strategists and philosophers throughout history would LOOOOVE to hear it.

Go on, I'm waiting...






Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!


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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 8:43 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It's a little horrifying to watch ordinary people become looney-tunes.

WISHY, who has said more than once that she would willingly kill a million - or a billion! - innocent people, accuses someone else (with a straight face and absolutely no self-reflection whatsoever) of advocating violence. She's SURE of it, even tho she can't find a quote anywhere to back that up.

And JO. He's convinced that there is a conspiracy between Russia and the entire Republican party ... and few Democrats too! ... plus media people and (if he thinks about this long enough) since none of the intelligence agencies have found hide nor hair of this vast conspiracy ... well. They must be on on it, too!



The facts don't matter with them. You can't argue them out of their paranoia. I suggest we just leave them alone with a little quiet time and maybe they'll come to their senses in a few years.

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Tuesday, July 30, 2019 9:27 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I've only ever had long-standing real world experience with one other person who had some deeply unhelpful mental quirks, kind of like JO. I did dispute them and that seemed helpful, because when that person eventually fell apart - jobless, friendless, sleeping in the mud at night - they came to me, and took my advice and got help.

I'm not sure how NOT pointing out to JO the flaws in his thinking will help him.



As for WHIZZY, I don't believe she's this irrational and still allowed to be out on her own in the world. This smells like a scheme she's cooked up.

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