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Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail

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Tuesday, June 29, 2021 10:38 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump will be fine.


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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Tuesday, June 29, 2021 10:49 AM

THG



Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Every story I've read indicates

TRUMP WILL NOT BE CHARGED.

I have a hard time figuring out how Trump will go to jail when he's not being charged.

You should be having a hard time with that, too.




The difference between comrade kiki and I is I am posting current goings on and understand what is happening, while kiki is posting misleading headlines. Trumps business enterprise is about to be indicted. kiki would have us believe thee is nothing of importance in that.

tick tock comrade...

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Experts Break Down Looming Trump Organization Charges





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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 10:59 AM

THG


Tomorrow Trumps CFO gets indicted. It starts...

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump will be fine.

Trump disbelieves you. He is worried and wrote this week: Having politically motivated prosecutors, people who actually got elected because they will “get Donald Trump,” is a very dangerous thing for our Country. In the end, people will not stand for it. Remember, if they can do this to me, they can do it to anyone!

Trump is worried that, in the end, people will be pleased to see Trump in jail.

www.donaldjtrump.com/news/statement-by-donald-j-trump-45th-president-o
f-the-united-states-of-america-on-radical-left-new-york-political-prosecutors-06.28.21-02


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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 11:21 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Every story I've read indicates
TRUMP WILL NOT BE CHARGED.
I have a hard time figuring out how Trump will go to jail when he's not being charged.
You should be having a hard time with that, too.

Quote:

Trumps (sic) business enterprise is about to be indicted.
But AS I POSTED, TRUMP WILL NOT BE CHARGED.
Quote:

kiki would have us believe thee (sic) is nothing of importance in that.
That's not at all what I posted.

Do you remember the title of this thread? Here it is, if case you forgot: Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail

Maybe you need to put a little thought into the question: if Trump isn't getting charged, how will he end up going to jail?

Because - yanno - HERE IN AMERICA, being charged, having a trial, being found guilty by a jury of your peers, and getting sentenced to jail, is the only pathway to the Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail outcome.

But maybe you never knew that about us HERE IN AMERICA.


THUGGER is an idiot. it's that simple.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 12:50 PM

THG


It's you who do not understand the process comrade kiki. This is how it starts. And I will enjoy reposting all your and Jacks comments as it unfolds.

tick tock

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Thursday, July 1, 2021 6:49 AM

THG


WaPo: Grand jury files charges against Trump Organization, CFO Weisselberg

The Washington Post reports that a Manhattan grand jury has filed criminal indictments against Trump's company and its longtime CFO, Allen Weisselberg.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wapo-grand-jury-files-charges-
against-trump-organization-cfo-weisselberg/vi-AALEmEB?ocid=msedgntp


Trump Organization and Its Chief Financial Officer Have Been Indicted: Reports
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-organization-and-its-chi
ef-financial-officer-have-been-indicted-reports/ar-AALE3qZ?ocid=msedgntp




It begins...Trumps organization indicted. Trumps CFO surrenders to authorities. Trump will not be fine.

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Thursday, July 1, 2021 7:08 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail

Since this is supposed to be a thread about Trump going to jail, I can't help but wonder if any charges have been filed against Trump yet.

What's that? No, you say?

Then what HAVE you been posting about all this time?




THUGGER is an idiot. It's that simple.

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Thursday, July 1, 2021 8:04 AM

THG




There are many investigations going on that encompass Trump comrade Kiki. Indictments are being filed. Your protests here show you to be a mental case incapable of living in reality. If Trumps organization is indicted than he is directly involved and his burdens intensify. From here they get progressively worse.

tick tock


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Thursday, July 1, 2021 8:10 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump will be fine.



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Thursday, July 1, 2021 1:09 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:


There are many investigations going on that encompass Trump comrade Kiki. Indictments are being filed. Your protests here show you to be a mental case incapable of living in reality. If Trumps organization is indicted than he is directly involved and his burdens intensify. From here they get progressively worse. Like the one below.

tick tock

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Prosecutors open criminal investigation of Trump phone call





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Thursday, July 1, 2021 10:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Q: Who watches CNN in 2021?

A: Nobody.


Trump will be fine.



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Thursday, July 1, 2021 11:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Trump will be fine.

Trump Is Preparing for the Worst

“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked.

“Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.”

“What brought it on?”

“Friends,” said Mike. “I had a lot of friends.”


— Ernest Hemingway, The Sun Also Rises

Like Hemingway’s Mike Campbell, the Trump Organization is confronting troubles that accumulated gradually and have coalesced suddenly. And once again, friends are at the bottom of it.

A grand-jury indictment of Donald Trump’s business and its chief financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, unsealed this afternoon in New York, alleges tax evasion arising from an attempt to pay Weisselberg and other Trump Organization executives extra money “off the books.” Prosecutors charge that Weisselberg and others received rent payments and other benefits without paying the appropriate taxes on them. Weisselberg and the Trump Organization have said they will plead not guilty.

So far, the danger is to Trump’s friends and his business, not the former president himself. But the danger could spiral, because Trump knew only so many tricks. If Trump’s company was bypassing relatively moderate amounts of tax on the income flows to Trump’s friends, what was it doing with the much larger income flows to Trump and his own family? Even without personal testimony, finances leave a trail. There is always a debit and a credit, and a check issued to the IRS or not.

An early indication that things may end badly for Trump is the statement released today from the Trump Organization. “Allen Weisselberg is a loving and devoted husband, father and grandfather who has worked for the Trump Organization for 48 years. He is now being used by the Manhattan District Attorney as a pawn in a scorched earth attempt to harm the former President. The District Attorney is bringing a case involving employee benefits that neither the IRS nor any other District Attorney would ever think of bringing. This is not justice; this is politics.”

Here is what is missing from that statement: “I’m 100 percent confident that every investigation will always end up in the same conclusion, which is that I follow all rules, procedures, and, most importantly, the law.” That’s the language used by former Trump Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke when he was facing ethics charges in 2018. Likewise, when Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe was accused of violating campaign-finance laws in 2016, he too was “very confident” that “there was no wrongdoing.” Plug the phrases very confident and no wrongdoing into a search engine and you will pull up statement after statement by politicians and business leaders under fire. For some, their matter worked out favorably; for others, not so much. Either way, everybody expects you to say that you’re confident you didn’t do anything wrong. It’s the thing an innocent person would want to say. So it’s kind of a tell when it goes unsaid.

An earlier statement from Trump himself likewise omitted an affirmative defense of his company and its employees, and instead attacked the professional prosecutors as “radical Left” (not to mention “rude, nasty, and totally biased”). The key line in Trump’s own statement is an anticipation of the possibility that one or another of his friends might flip: “They”—the prosecutors—continue to be “in search of a crime; and will do anything to frighten people into making up the stories or lies that they want.”

One of Trump’s skills as a politician is preparing the battlefield in advance. In the case of his first impeachment, he chose to argue outright innocence—“it was a perfect call”—and no matter how mountainous the evidence of wrongdoing, that was the line he maintained to the end.

This time, though, Trump is not claiming that “all taxes were paid” or that “it was a perfect tax return.” He’s readying his supporters for bad revelations about his company’s taxes and directing them to a fallback line that singling him out as a tax scofflaw is politically unfair.

That line of defense may well rally Trump’s supporters. It will not do him much good in court. It’s impossible for tax collectors to scrutinize every return. Selecting high-profile evaders and holding them to account is how tax laws are enforced. And if a former president numbers among those high-profile evaders, that makes the case for targeting him stronger, not weaker. It sends the message that the tax authorities most want to send: Everybody has to pay, especially powerful politicians.
In 1974, former President Richard Nixon faced a review of his taxes that ultimately presented him with a bill equal to half his net worth at the time. Members of Congress have faced indictment for tax evasion, as have high-profile state and local officials.

Trump and his team already appear to expect that the law will be against him. They are counting on that fact not to matter very much—not enough to overcome the political hullabaloo they hope to raise in Trump’s defense.

Trump worked all his life on the theory that law can be subordinated to political favors and political pressures. That theory has carried him this far—and it’s pretty far, all things considered. We are now about to see a mighty test, before the country and the world, of whether that theory will carry him the rest of the way home.

www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-preparing-for-the-worst/ar-AA
LFSTx


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Friday, July 2, 2021 12:22 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump will be fine.



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Friday, July 2, 2021 12:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump will be fine.

Al Capone wasn't fine. He went to jail over a mere $215,000 in back taxes. Sad how Al died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Capone#Failing_health_and_death

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Friday, July 2, 2021 12:38 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump will be fine.



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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Friday, July 2, 2021 12:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump will be fine.

You are not trying hard enough. This person is trying and has reached Peak MAGA: https://imgur.com/gallery/ytDmvmV

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Friday, July 2, 2021 7:53 AM

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Friday, July 2, 2021 7:56 AM

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tick tock

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They Have The Goods’: Charges Are Bad News For Trump Org.





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Friday, July 2, 2021 8:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump will be fine.



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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Saturday, July 3, 2021 8:45 AM

THG


tick tock

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Tax Scheme In Weisselberg Indictment Echoes NYT Reporting On Ivanka Trump Payouts




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Saturday, July 3, 2021 9:09 AM

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Trump's Business Was Just Labeled A 'Criminal Organization'





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Saturday, July 3, 2021 9:14 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump will be fine.




P.S. Send me an article so I can debunk what you say.



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Saturday, July 3, 2021 9:30 AM

THG


This post is to keep the dummies here up to date. The state filed charges are federal offences so now the Feds are forced to get involved. This is a game changer. Trump is now being destroyed and with each and every news bite I get to say yea and I told you so.

For five years I've been telling you so. I can't begin to count the number of posts by Jack=ass, Signym and Kiki proclaiming Trumps innocence. Posts that I can reconstitute by tacking news bits to them of Trump being proven to be criminal. All while he is losing his fortune and being picked apart by law enforcement. My patience has paid off. The Trump saga continues and I could not be happier.


tick tock tick tock Oh my tick tock

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Saturday, July 3, 2021 9:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump isn't even talking about it. He must not be worried.



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Sunday, July 4, 2021 6:58 AM

THG


Trump appears to acknowledge tax schemes while questioning whether alleged violations are crimes

As Trump criticized the investigation, he appeared to acknowledge the tax schemes while questioning whether the alleged violations were in fact crimes.

“They go after good, hard-working people for not paying taxes on a company car,” he said at a rally in Sarasota, Fla. “You didn't pay tax on the car or a company apartment. You used an apartment because you need an apartment because you have to travel too far where your house is. You didn't pay tax. Or education for your grandchildren. I don't even know. Do you have to? Does anybody know the answer to that stuff?”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-appears-to-acknowledge-t
ax-schemes-while-questioning-whether-alleged-violations-are-crimes/ar-AALKqI5?ocid=msedgntp




Dummy...

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Sunday, July 4, 2021 8:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Trump appears to acknowledge tax schemes while questioning whether alleged violations are crimes

As Trump criticized the investigation, he appeared to acknowledge the tax schemes while questioning whether the alleged violations were in fact crimes.

WATCH: Trump Tells Rally Goers That You Don’t Have to Pay Taxes on Company Cars or Apartments
https://hillreporter.com/watch-trump-tells-rally-goers-that-you-dont-h
ave-to-pay-taxes-on-company-cars-or-apartments-105834


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Sunday, July 4, 2021 10:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


To both of the idiots above...

He's got a tax team that takes care of that stuff.

I'm sure he's referring to the fact that you can use company vehicles and apartments used for work as tax write offs when you own a business.



Trump will be fine.



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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Sunday, July 4, 2021 10:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
To both of the idiots above...

He's got a tax team that takes care of that stuff.

I'm sure he's referring to the fact that you can use company vehicles and apartments used for work as tax write offs when you own a business.



Trump will be fine.

Tax experts have said prosecutions centered on fringe benefits are rare, but some have compared the charges to the case against Leona Helmsley, a New York real estate developer who was convicted of evading $1.2 million in taxes in the 1980s. Rudy Giuliani sent Trump business rival Leona Helmsley to prison for tax fraud.
https://theweek.com/donald-trump/1002220/rudy-giuliani-sent-trump-busi
ness-rival-leona-helmsley-to-prison-for-tax-fraud


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Sunday, July 4, 2021 11:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
To both of the idiots above...

He's got a tax team that takes care of that stuff.

I'm sure he's referring to the fact that you can use company vehicles and apartments used for work as tax write offs when you own a business.



Trump will be fine.

Tax experts have said prosecutions centered on fringe benefits are rare, but some have compared the charges to the case against Leona Helmsley, a New York real estate developer who was convicted of evading $1.2 million in taxes in the 1980s. Rudy Giuliani sent Trump business rival Leona Helmsley to prison for tax fraud.
https://theweek.com/donald-trump/1002220/rudy-giuliani-sent-trump-busi
ness-rival-leona-helmsley-to-prison-for-tax-fraud


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Don't care.

Not part of your original argument.

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Sunday, July 4, 2021 11:59 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SECONDRATE: Tax experts have said prosecutions centered on fringe benefits are rare
And, in this case, politically-motivated.




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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And, in this case, politically-motivated.

Trump’s lawyers have called the charges petty and contend they are politically motivated. As a tax professor, I see them as a fantastic opportunity to talk about tax policy and the cat-and-mouse games that people play to avoid paying their fair share. While these charges may seem relatively minor given the larger allegations of tax fraud associated with Trump’s statements to borrowers and tax authorities about the value of his various properties, they amount to serious violations of the basic tax rules . . .

More at The Charges Against the Trump Organization Are a Master Class in Tax Evasion
https://slate.com/business/2021/07/trump-organization-allen-weisselber
g-charges-tax-evasion-fringe-benefits.html


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Sunday, July 4, 2021 3:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And, in this case, politically-motivated.

Trump’s lawyers have called the charges petty and contend they are politically motivated. As a tax professor, I see them as a fantastic opportunity to talk about tax policy and the cat-and-mouse games that people play to avoid paying their fair share. While these charges may seem relatively minor given the larger allegations of tax fraud associated with Trump’s statements to borrowers and tax authorities about the value of his various properties, they amount to serious violations of the basic tax rules . . .



He started off so well...

No. They are NOT serious violations of the basic tax rules.

All the shenanigans that he was able to get away with on his taxes were the exact same shenanigans that ALL rich people are LEGALLY able to get away with on their taxes.

The absolute worst thing he might be guilty of at this point is opening his non-professional mouth about his taxes, because hes' NOT the one who files them and idiots like you are going to take his layman speak as gospel.

Funny that, huh? You haven't believed a single thing he said in the last FIVE YEARS, but NOW you're going to believe him.

You're a partisan wack job and a Trumptard, Second.


Get a fuckin' life.

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Sunday, July 4, 2021 5:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And, in this case, politically-motivated.

Trump’s lawyers have called the charges petty and contend they are politically motivated. As a tax professor, I see them as a fantastic opportunity to talk about tax policy and the cat-and-mouse games that people play to avoid paying their fair share. While these charges may seem relatively minor given the larger allegations of tax fraud associated with Trump’s statements to borrowers and tax authorities about the value of his various properties, they amount to serious violations of the basic tax rules . . .



He started off so well...

No. They are NOT serious violations of the basic tax rules.

All the shenanigans that he was able to get away with on his taxes were the exact same shenanigans that ALL rich people are LEGALLY able to get away with on their taxes.

The absolute worst thing he might be guilty of at this point is opening his non-professional mouth about his taxes, because hes' NOT the one who files them and idiots like you are going to take his layman speak as gospel.

Funny that, huh? You haven't believed a single thing he said in the last FIVE YEARS, but NOW you're going to believe him.

You're a partisan wack job and a Trumptard, Second.


Get a fuckin' life.

You are blaming Trump's accountants. Al Capone defended himself by blaming his accountants. There is another parallel: Trump and Capone both knew they had paid no taxes. Another: both retired to Florida, Capone after he was released from prison for income tax evasion and Trump after he lost an election.

Due to his "failing" health and excellent lawyers, Capone was released from prison on November 16, 1939 for the treatment of paresis (caused by late-stage syphilis), died January 25, 1947. Capone spent the last seven years of his life at his mansion in Palm Island, Florida, spending time with his wife and grandchildren. Trump should be so lucky.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Capone#Failing_health_and_death

President Trump paid no income taxes for 10 of the 15 years before he was elected president, and just $750 a year in 2016 and 2017.
https://fortune.com/2020/09/27/trump-paid-no-income-taxes/

Trump dismissed the report as “fake news” and maintained he has paid taxes, though he gave no specifics. He also vowed that information about his taxes “will all be revealed,” but he offered no timeline for the disclosure and made similar promises during the 2016 campaign on which he never followed through.

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Sunday, July 4, 2021 7:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SIGNYM:
And, in this case, politically-motivated.

SECONDRATE: Trump’s lawyers have called the charges petty and contend they are politically motivated. As a tax professor, I see them as a fantastic opportunity to talk about tax policy Trump



Trump ... Trump... Trump.Trump.Trump...Trump ...

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Sunday, July 4, 2021 8:48 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SIGNYM:
And, in this case, politically-motivated.

SECONDRATE: Trump’s lawyers have called the charges petty and contend they are politically motivated. As a tax professor, I see them as a fantastic opportunity to talk about tax policy Trump



Trump ... Trump... Trump.Trump.Trump...Trump ...

Do you realize that Trump could absolutely destroy all those horrible people who doubt he paid all his taxes by simply making his tax returns public information?

He promised that he would, over and over, but he has not released even one return.

Surely there is ONE year where he paid all his taxes? Maybe all four years he was President!

Every other President released their taxes, but NOT Trump:

Tax History Project
Presidential Tax Returns
https://www.efile.com/historic-1040-income-tax-returns-of-us-president
s-and-candidates
/



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Sunday, July 4, 2021 9:51 PM

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Daniel C. Dennett, Philosopher, asked the question:
How can an aggregation of trillions of selfish, myopic cells discover the unwitting teamwork that turns that dynamic clump called Trump into a person who can love, notice, wonder, and keep a promise?
www.edge.org/response-detail/27449

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Sunday, July 4, 2021 10:13 PM

SIGNYM

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Originallly posted by SECONDRATE:
Trump.

Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump ...
trumptrumptrumptrumptrump... TRUMP!
Trump.
Trump.

Also, Trump.
And TRUMP!
trumptrumptrumptrumptrump...

HAHAHAHA! You're funny!


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Sunday, July 4, 2021 10:14 PM

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Jesus Christ you are sick.

Get some help.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Monday, July 5, 2021 7:55 AM

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To both of the idiots above...

He's got a tax team that takes care of that stuff.

I'm sure he's referring to the fact that you can use company vehicles and apartments used for work as tax write offs when you own a business.



Trump will be fine.

Tax experts have said prosecutions centered on fringe benefits are rare, but some have compared the charges to the case against Leona Helmsley, a New York real estate developer who was convicted of evading $1.2 million in taxes in the 1980s. Rudy Giuliani sent Trump business rival Leona Helmsley to prison for tax fraud.



How the Trump Org. charges could open the indictment floodgates

There are several clues in the indictment that others are cooperating against Weisselberg and the Trump Organization. One of the clues is pretty overt: the indictment states that Weisselberg lied to his tax preparer about his status as a New York City resident. It’s never a good sign when a defendant’s tax preparer seems to be cooperating with prosecutors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-the-trump-org-charges-coul
d-open-the-indictment-floodgates/ar-AALMRVx?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531




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Monday, July 5, 2021 8:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:

Do you realize that Trump could absolutely destroy all those horrible people who doubt he paid all his taxes by simply making his tax returns public information?

He promised that he would, over and over, but he has not released even one return.

Surely there is ONE year where he paid all his taxes? Maybe all four years he was President!

Every other President released their taxes, but NOT Trump:






Except he can't because he has lied on his taxes forever. Of course you know that.

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Monday, July 5, 2021 8:17 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originallly posted by SECONDRATE:
Trump.

Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump. Trump ...
trumptrumptrumptrumptrump... TRUMP!
Trump.
Trump.

Also, Trump.
And TRUMP!
trumptrumptrumptrumptrump...

HAHAHAHA! You're funny!

It has been a regular theme of mine that all the Trumptards I know in the real world struggle to stay in the middle class. I can't say the rule is true universally, but it sure as hell is true in Texas. The exception to the rule is rich Trumptard Texans. The Texas Trumptards who are rich have some mental characteristics that the poorer Trumptards lack, and it is NOT wealth. There is really no point in explaining what kind of thinking they can do that makes their lives easy which Signym, 1kiki, and 6ix can't do, but I know you don't have it because I read the thread "In the Garden and Rain" http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=58882

Anyway, the rich Texas Trumptards are concerned that Trump is a tax-cheating incompetent lazy businessman and the poorer Trumptards are either unaware or don't care. That unaware and don't care is why the poorer Trumptards struggle to stay in the middle class. It is also why Trump almost won reelection despite
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Trump presided over an out-of-control pandemic that killed hundreds of thousands of people and caused the American economy to collapse. He humiliated the nation’s top public health officials and ridiculed basic safety measures like mask wearing; threatened to crush mass demonstrations with military force; outlined no agenda for his second term; . . .
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-america-s-politics-are-stubbornly-
fixed-despite-momentous-changes/ar-AALKOXJ


There is more that is wrong with Trump than just tax cheating. Trump on climate change? He is pure craziness on climate but Trumptards would vote for him anyway because he makes them feel better about themselves. He tells them they are right when they are dead wrong. Trumptards love Trump for telling them it is not their fault that they struggle. Instead, blame Democrats for your difficulties and never admit being crazy is the true reason your life went where it did.

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Monday, July 5, 2021 9:34 AM

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Trump will be fine.



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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Monday, July 5, 2021 10:02 AM

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SECONDRATE: It has been a regular theme of mine that all the Trumptards I know in the real world struggle to stay in the middle class... There is really no point in explaining what kind of thinking they can do that makes their lives easy which Signym, 1kiki, and 6ix can't do.
If wealth is a measure of intelligence then blacks must be abysmally stupid.

That's raciss!



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Monday, July 5, 2021 10:06 AM

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Well...

Second is no stranger to throwing around the N word and accusing black people of being too stupid to vote because they can't find a the polling places.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Monday, July 5, 2021 10:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

SECONDRATE: It has been a regular theme of mine that all the Trumptards I know in the real world struggle to stay in the middle class... There is really no point in explaining what kind of thinking they can do that makes their lives easy which Signym, 1kiki, and 6ix can't do.
If wealth is a measure of intelligence then blacks must be abysmally stupid.

That's raciss!







It’s sad the way some here respond to posts with gibberish. I don’t see where you mention blacks second? I only see where you mention the middle class.

Always, Jack=ass Kiki and Signym post a defense of Trump without acknowledging his reported wrongdoings. Their need to post requires them to post something I guess. So they repeat themselves constantly without realizing it is an acknowledgement of their idiocy.


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Monday, July 5, 2021 10:31 AM

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Trump will be fine.



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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Monday, July 5, 2021 10:56 AM

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Trump is asking random Mar-a-Lago visitors to recommend lawyers to help with his legal issues

Insider's C. Ryan Barber and Tom LoBianco reported in April that, with the big law firms shying away, Trump calls on a stable of lawyers, many of whom were involved in his efforts to challenge the 2020 election result.

Some of the legal threats over Trump have begun to take shape.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-asking-random-mar-a-l
ago-visitors-to-recommend-lawyers-to-help-with-his-legal-issues-wolff-book-says/ar-AALNnsL?ocid=msedgntp




Poor donnie...

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Tuesday, July 6, 2021 10:20 AM

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Ivanka Trump could be the next target for Manhattan's district attorney, according to a former federal prosecutor

Ivanka Trump could be the next target of Manhattan District Attorney's criminal investigation into Donald Trump and his family, a former federal prosecutor said.

Cynthia Alksne, a legal analyst for MSNBC and a former Assistant District Attorney in the Brooklyn, NY District Attorney's office, said Monday that the indictment presented in Weisselberg's case indicated that Ivanka Trump could be next to face charges.

"This is an opening salvo," Alksne told MSNBC's Alicia Menendez on Monday

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ivanka-trump-could-be-the-next
-target-for-manhattan-s-district-attorney-according-to-a-former-federal-prosecutor/ar-AALPGSw?ocid=msedgntp




tick tock

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Tuesday, July 6, 2021 10:21 AM

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Ivanka Trump might flip on her dad because she has more to lose, Mary Trump says: 'Her husband's family is legitimately very wealthy'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ivanka-trump-might-flip-on-her
-dad-because-she-has-more-to-lose-mary-trump-says-her-husband-s-family-is-legitimately-very-wealthy/ar-AALPBxe?ocid=msedgntp




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