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new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 7:53 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
JSF, thanks for the updates!

They are really just snapshots, with time stamps. It is so hard to find snapshot data with such a fast-moving event. These snapshots are what are statistically known as "instantaneous" data as opposed to "end of the event summary" data, or averaged data. I've noticed a lot of folk here do not understand any of that.

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 7:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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My old man said that last night there was only one bottle of Purel left on Amazon going for $60.

I guess people are just going to have to wash their hands with soap like normal human beings for now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Not only is hand sanitizr missing, so is rubbing alcohol (the active ingredient). There's a lot of misinformation "out there" which results in people buying or making sanitizers with ineffective concentrations of alcohol, which is a great way to waste alcohol

Sanitizer is great for situations where you can't leave your work station (like assembly line), for high-contact jobs like receptionists, fast food, and cashiers, where you have close minute-by-minute contact with lots of people (like caregivers, EMTs etc) and aren't always near a sink or can't wash your hands every minute.

Same goes for masks (not even respirators) which at least keeps those people from touching their faces. Everyone who MUST work with a lot of people should have a mask and sanitizer at their work station. It just seems like a job requirement nowadays.

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!




It's more important for people who are doing a bathroom remodel from the 60's or 70's to have a mask.

How many bathrooms were remodeled this week where the workers were exposed to asbestos and who knows what because they couldn't buy any?

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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There's no point in trying to hide from it.

Might as well get it now and let the dust settle.

We're a year and a half away from having a vaccination that a lot of people are going to refuse to take anyhow.

I guess if you want to live the hermit life like me until it all blows over, then be my guest. Maybe it will morph into a version that is more agreeable with the host than this one is.

If that's why you'd put yourself through all this, I get it, but otherwise you're just postponing the inevitable.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:14 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-11-20-
intl-hnk/index.html


World Health Organization declares coronavirus a pandemic





There goes those pandemic bonds!

Any surprise the Stocks jumped into Bear Market?

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Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:32 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I had tried to keep trakc of the early stages of the case spread for several reasons.

Now it is out-of hand.

But, as far as I can tell, US has not had any cases which resulted from contact with a person who we airlifted out of a hellhole hotspot.

If we brought them back to America, and then quarantined them, nobody got sick from them after that.

Sure, folk that we airlifted were infected beforehand, and then some developed symptoms afterwards (while in quarantine/isolation), but no fresh cases from those that we saved by evacuating.

Assuming my information about this is correct, I find that very impressive.
And an excelent model of how to effectively (and, really, perfectly) control the spread. having a perfect score/record in this endeavor is very telling.
I do welcome updates about any exceptions to this - if we find that any new cases have been found from contact with one of these evacuees.

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Friday, March 13, 2020 3:31 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


No exception that I know of, but cases are spreading with unknown origins.

Ohio has had five detected cases, and it closed the schools. Because of the extremely high R-naught of unconstrained coronavirus, these five people wandering around undetected for three weeks, infecting people who have in turn infected others, leaves Ohio officials to estimate that there are as many as 110,000 cases of undetected coronavirus in Ohio right now.

Some people might call school closure jumping the gun; I call it incredibly foresighted and proactive.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ohio-schools-closed-for-3-weeks-to-s
top-spread-of-coronavirus-statewide-confirmed-cases-rises-to-5/ar-BB116OeR


I hear you on the updates. There are SO MANY "firsts" for SO MANY nations and states: First case. First cluster. First death. First community-acquired. First 100 cases. First 1000 cases. First 100 deaths. First lockdown .... It's impossible to keep track of them all, it would be a full-time job. At some point, you just acknowledge that it's a clusterfucked, terrible situation and just do your best to get thru it.

I WILL say, tho, that something very different seems to be going on in Italy and Iran. Their case fatality rates are way way higher (>6%) than any other regions except maybe China, and even China was only reporting about 2.1% (altho there is evidence that they were fudging their figures quite a bit). If this is a case of a different strain in those regions, and those strains spread, then this really will be like something out of the movie Contagion.

BTW, if you have any spare time I think you should watch it; aside from the usual excessive Hollywood flourishes it starts out with a bat virus in China. But it's really well-imagined and the progression of the pandemic follows a similar course to COVID19, which starts out slowly with individual cases and contact-tracing and winds up with too many cases to treat, let alone track.

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Friday, March 13, 2020 3:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Some oddball events surrounding the coronavirus

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MMA trainer pleads for help as he’s forced to wait with dead body of sister for 36 HOURS in coronavirus-hit Italy

“I had to force them to come and do the test. I’ve had to put myself in self-isolation. I might have the virus. To keep my sister alive, I tried to give her mouth to mouth resuscitation and no one cared, no one is calling me. We are ruined, Italy has abandoned us. But we must give each other strength.”

The trainer-turned-actor later confirmed that his sister, who had a form of epilepsy, had tested positive for Covid-19.

He said he had been forced to wait for 36 hours with her body at home – where elderly relatives were also staying – as he desperately sought funeral services who would come and take her body away for burial.
http://www.instagram.com/p/B9exJ8_D4Ix/





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Massive Monkey Gangs Are Fighting For Food On Thailand Streets As Tourist Food Disappears





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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Friday, March 13, 2020 11:56 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


see latest post for most recent figures

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Friday, March 13, 2020 1:09 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Average age of deaths from Coronavirus in the US: 80

Total young and middle aged deaths from Coronavirus in the US: 0

More than half of those died in a single old folks home in Washington State.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 13, 2020 1:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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This is starting to look more and more like a big nothing burger to me.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 13, 2020 2:21 PM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This is starting to look more and more like a big nothing burger to me.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

SIX, I'll do you a favor and mentally shit-can all of your posts about the coronavirus. Just because something is happening in a foreign nation - like Italy - or to people who are older than you doesn't mean that it isn't happening.

If this turns out to be a big nothing-burger, it will be BECAUSE the Federal government, states, cities, and individuals made it so. If it DOES turn out to be a big nothing-burger, as we all hope it will be, then be happy that Trump can take the win.

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Friday, March 13, 2020 2:54 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Jack sure is willing to flush old people down the toilet. Because ... yanno ... old. Or maybe more like ... not his age.

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Friday, March 13, 2020 2:57 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


see latest post for most recent figures

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Friday, March 13, 2020 3:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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If you've managed to live into your 80's and don't feel that you've lived a full life, maybe it's time to get with God or something.

We're all going to get it. Every single one of us. It's inevitable at this point.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 13, 2020 3:58 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Anyway Signy, to put the numbers in perspective: at the time that the country was recording ~150 cases, UCLA estimated there were ~9000. I read the study and it was EXTREMELY conservative in the number of potential sources of infection it DIDN'T count.

Literally all it counted were the number of people coming to the US from Wuhan after the outbreak but before any checks were put in place. It didn't count repatriated people, or cruise ship people, or anyone who traveled after temperature checks were put in place anywhere. And it assumed a very low number of people who were infected.

So that's a factor of 60 undercounted.

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Friday, March 13, 2020 3:59 PM

SIGNYM

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Jack sure is willing to flush old people down the toilet. Because ... yanno ... old. Or maybe more like ... not his age.

SIX is willing to flush up to 30 pct of the population
.. all while wringing his hands about 'people" getting hurt because of "panic".

It's hard to understand whether SIX is really concerned about people or only SOME people, or only SOME victims, and willing to flush a whole lot of others.



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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Friday, March 13, 2020 4:34 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Jack sure is willing to flush old people down the toilet. Because ... yanno ... old. Or maybe more like ... not his age.

SIX is willing to flush up to 30 pct of the population
.. all while wringing his hands about 'people" getting hurt because of "panic".

It's hard to understand whether SIX is really concerned about people or only SOME people, or only SOME victims, and willing to flush a whole lot of others.



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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!





I've always been about flushing 33% or more of the population of the planet.

This virus isn't going to be how it happens though.

I'll be busy working on my house and a few side jobs in the mean time. Life is going on and I don't have time to take a vacation like Hollywood and the NBA does.

Have fun in your bunkers. See you when this all blows over.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, March 13, 2020 4:49 PM

BRENDA


Mrs Trudeau is positive which is why she and the Prime Minister are in isolation. She had just come back from a trip to England which is where she picked it up.

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Friday, March 13, 2020 5:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



This site
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
now says 9% of Active Cases are critical/serious, 7% of Closed cases are fatal.


16th ranked Diamond Princess cases have 7 deaths. 325 recovered, 32 serious/critical.

Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, UK, Japan have surpassed Diamond Princess.

US is in 8th place, with 2,269 cases and 31 recoveries. 48 deaths.

Canada is 25th place, with 188 cases, 11 recoveries. 1 death.




I would like to point out that Japan and Brazil join the following group: of locations on this list with more than 100 cases, US, Canada, and Maylaysia have the lowest per capita cases.

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Saturday, March 14, 2020 2:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Separately, Here in WI we have 2 new cases, up from 0 active. In Pierce Co and Dane Co (Madison.) Both cases are from traveling in America.

In Pierce County, River Falls is a University of Wisconsin campus in the far west of the state, near Minneapolis.
These 2 cases were from travelling in unspecified locations in America, but both were in spots with current community spread (CA, WA, NYC).


Yesterday 3 more cases in WI. 2 in Fond Du Lac County (south end of Lake Winnebago) and 1 in Waukesha Co (western suburbs of Milwaukee, and wealthiest County in WI - a Firefly restaurant is there.) 1 of the FDL cases was from travel in US, the other 2 were from international travel to known hot spots.

Today 2 more cases, in Dane Co, both having contact with the 2nd WI case, found earlier this week in Dane Co (Madison).




But this warms my heart.
https://www.tmj4.com/news/national/coronavirus/wisconsin-national-guar
d-mobilized-to-transport-37-wisconsinites-on-board-grand-princess-cruise-ship

Saving Wisconsinites from the horrors of California.

On Friday, the WI cases jumped from 7 to 18 active, 19 total.


Skeletor Gov Evers has announced he will close all schools in WI, both public and private, but at this critical time he needs to give them 5 more days to infect as many others as possible, so school closing will start next week on Wednesday.



New cases reported Friday:
1 more in Dane Co - UW-Madison Vet School person who just returned from a country with widespread cases.
2 in Milwaukee Co - the first (downtown) had close contact with another confirmed case, the second (North Shore) had just traveled in Europe, had close contact with a confirmed case.
1 in Racine Co (south border of Milwaukee Co) - just traveled internationally.
3 in Sheboygan Co (east border of FDL Co, 2 counties north of Milwaukee).
4 more in Fond Du Lac Co.


WI still has no identified cases of "community spread" - just some cases from States with community spread.


I heard rumor that 3 of the new FDL cases were in Oshkosh. That would be the southern city of the Fox Cities which populate the north end of Lake Winnebago (such as Appleton, Menasha, Neenah, Kimberly, Kaukauna, Greenville, Grand Chute) - and which extend to within 6 miles of Green Bay.


https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/outbreaks/index.htm

https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/covid-19/index.htm

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Saturday, March 14, 2020 3:04 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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On Friday, the WI cases jumped from 7 to 19 total.



Getting dangerously close to the combined IQ of Nilbog, TWO and T combined.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 14, 2020 4:10 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN



This site
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
now says 8% of Active Cases are critical/serious, 7% of Closed cases are fatal.


16th ranked Diamond Princess cases still at 7 deaths. 325 recovered, 32 serious/critical.

Belgium, Austria are poised to surpass Diamond Princess.

US is in 8th place, with 2,499 cases and 49 recoveries. 55 deaths.

Canada is 23rd place (tied with Finland), with 225 cases, 11 recoveries. 1 death.




I would like to point out that Japan and Brazil join the following group: of locations on this list with more than 100 cases, US, Canada, and Maylaysia have the lowest per capita cases.

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Saturday, March 14, 2020 4:25 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


see latest post for most recent figures

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Saturday, March 14, 2020 4:27 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


see latest post for most recent figures

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Saturday, March 14, 2020 4:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I'd like to point out a possible summary or outlook. This may be controversial, and perhaps even 6ix may disagree.

I will specify several assumptions as baseline. If these concepts are disruptive to your chosen religion, please do not bother reading past it.

1. Human Immunodeficiency Virus exists, and has for centuries.
2. HIV does not cause AIDS, in the Real World.
3. HIV is spreadable thru intimate contact, such as fluid exchange.
4. COVID-19 has 4 insertions of section of HIV sequence spliced into the DNA/RNA. 3 of the insertions are from one strain of HIV, and one insertion is from another strain of HIV. These insertions spliced into the genome of COVID-19 provide for great recognition and docking characteristics for the virus to infect human host cells.



If all of the above is true, it is foreseeable that COVID-19 will enjoy widespread infection of the human population.
It will become common, like the common cold or common flu.
With known cases, America has proven that it can be controlled and treated - the problems in America have been the unknown cases, the community spread cases, the cases that CDC refused to test for until autopsy.
In America, the known and treated cases have had a ZERO percent fatality rate. The only deaths are from those who carried the virus for a while before getting tested, and mostly also infected others as well. None of the cases that we airlifted in have perished, nor have they infected others once here.

So, Like HIV, it can spread easily, but with a larger target population than HIV. Spread of HIV does not cause a spread of AIDS, and spread of COVID-19 might not cause a spread of raging deaths, unless they are untreated.
More than 80% of those infected with COVID-19 are merely carriers (and are apparently under age 80). They do not get violently ill, critically or seriously ill. An overburdened Health care system does not need to deal with these mild cases.
The seriously ill can get the therapy needed, and then once over it, on to the next case.

How many of these, what percent of the population which become serious cases, and whether they health care system can, if triaged properly, handle them, is not yet answered. This could be overburdening, but then it will have passed, perhaps.


I'm not sure how much of this will play out, but it seems a possibility.
Hope I explained it well enough.

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Saturday, March 14, 2020 5:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I'd like to point out a possible summary or outlook. This may be controversial, and perhaps even 6ix may disagree.

I will specify several assumptions as baseline. If these concepts are disruptive to your chosen religion, please do not bother reading past it.

1. Human Immunodeficiency Virus exists, and has for centuries.



No arguments so far. HIV is real.

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2. HIV does not cause AIDS, in the Real World.


Yes. HIV doesn't magically create diseases that aren't real.

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3. HIV is spreadable thru intimate contact, such as fluid exchange.


Yup.

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4. COVID-19 has 4 insertions of section of HIV sequence spliced into the DNA/RNA. 3 of the insertions are from one strain of HIV, and one insertion is from another strain of HIV. These insertions spliced into the genome of COVID-19 provide for great recognition and docking characteristics for the virus to infect human host cells.


Maybe.


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If all of the above is true, it is foreseeable that COVID-19 will enjoy widespread infection of the human population.
It will become common, like the common cold or common flu.
With known cases, America has proven that it can be controlled and treated - the problems in America have been the unknown cases, the community spread cases, the cases that CDC refused to test for until autopsy.
In America, the known and treated cases have had a ZERO percent fatality rate. The only deaths are from those who carried the virus for a while before getting tested, and mostly also infected others as well. None of the cases that we airlifted in have perished, nor have they infected others once here.

So, Like HIV, it can spread easily, but with a larger target population than HIV. Spread of HIV does not cause a spread of AIDS, and spread of COVID-19 might not cause a spread of raging deaths, unless they are untreated.
More than 80% of those infected with COVID-19 are merely carriers (and are apparently under age 80). They do not get violently ill, critically or seriously ill. An overburdened Health care system does not need to deal with these mild cases.
The seriously ill can get the therapy needed, and then once over it, on to the next case.

How many of these, what percent of the population which become serious cases, and whether they health care system can, if triaged properly, handle them, is not yet answered. This could be overburdening, but then it will have passed, perhaps.


I'm not sure how much of this will play out, but it seems a possibility.
Hope I explained it well enough.




Yup. I'm not trying to be a dick when I tell people that they will get it.

They will get it. Everyone will get it.



Facemasks aren't going to help you unless you live in a bunker with 20 years of food stocked up and while you're down their a nuclear war kills everything on the surface.


Play ball, I say.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, March 14, 2020 11:40 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51875871

Coronavirus: Can the US catch up on testing?

Why did the US lag on testing?

There are several factors at play.

§ The World Health Organization approved a coronavirus test in January - but the US decided against using it, and instead had the CDC develop its own test.

§ In February, the CDC despatched testing kits across the US - but some of them didn't work properly, and led to inconclusive results.

§ The fact that the US has a "siloed" healthcare system, with various public and private health providers and laboratories, has also made testing more complicated, says Susan Butler-Wu, an associate professor at the Keck School of Medicine of USC, and a laboratory director in Los Angeles. "There is not a co-ordinated clinical response that can be rolled out, like there was in South Korea. We have no such thing as a national plan for testing."
Instead, many large laboratories have had to develop their own laboratory tests and seek emergency clearance from US regulators, which can be an "onerous" process, she says. Meanwhile, smaller laboratories do not have the equipment or space required to run laboratory tests - instead, they tend to rely on a simpler test, known as a sample-to-answer test - but the devices for such tests are awaiting approval from the FDA, Dr Butler-Wu says.
As a result, laboratories like Dr Butler-Wu's can collect samples, but then need to send them to a commercial reference laboratory for testing and results, which can slow down the process.

§ A US pathologist, who asked not to be named, also described the process as fragmented: "We don't have a national healthcare system so we don't have the ability to co-ordinate across hospitals..."

§ According to lawmakers who attended a briefing on Thursday, there were also problems with the supply chain for testing kits, with stocks of cotton swabs and gloves running low.

§ And earlier this week, the director of the CDC told a congressional hearing: "There's not enough equipment, there's not enough people, there's not enough internal capacity. ...The truth is... we've underinvested in the public health labs."



A different article I read was more explicit when it comes to the fragmented, isolated testing.

Because there isn't a national health system, there's no large-scale testing capacity that can handle thousands or tens of thousands of samples at a time.

What there is instead are isolated autonomous facilities where individual laboratories have myriad different combinations of pieces of instrumentation and equipment, reagent kits, and procedures. So there's no standardization that would enable a single test to be rolled out across the country.

Then within each laboratory for this kind of 'specialty' testing there are small-scale and by-hand setups, that can do at most 5 samples a day.

There's a lot of systemic limitations in the system that can't be expanded to accommodate a crisis.


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Sunday, March 15, 2020 5:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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The mere idea of a "National Health System" should terrify you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 7:37 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


lol

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 7:45 AM

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Yeah. lol

I mean it's worked out so well for our National School System, right?


There's never enough funding for what now amounts to a nation-wide baby sitting service that teaches kids a retarded math system that makes them adult retards in a global economy while propagandizing them with a Federally Mandated Curriculum that will now include the 1619 Project as "Fact".



Yeah. Let's centralize Health too.

Maybe your medicine won't be destroyed or lost by the same diversity hires that can't seem to deliver our mail right anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 9:43 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


lol

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 9:49 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


see latest post for most recent figures

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 9:52 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


see latest post for most recent figures

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 9:56 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/14/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-spr
ead/index.html


Infected people without symptoms might be driving the spread of coronavirus more than we realized

For weeks, federal officials have emphasized that asymptomatic transmission can happen, but have said that it's not a significant factor in the spread of the virus.

I've always thought that asymptomatic people might be driving the spread, and have been harping on the need for testing for weeks.
Quote:

But it appears that a Massachusetts coronavirus cluster with at least 82 cases was started by people who were not yet showing symptoms, and more than half a dozen studies have shown that people without symptoms are causing substantial amounts of infection.

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:03 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




CX: FRANCE NOW PUSHING EPIDEMIC LEVEL. All restos, cafés, non-essential stores closed. MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVID?19 CASES IN CRITICAL CONDITION IN FRANCE ARE UNDER 60; France has 4,500 cases, which doubled in the past 72 hours, said head of French health service. Replaces: pic.twitter.com/DQFmigQYFE
— Rachel Donadio (@RachelDonadio) March 14, 2020



"Today there are between forty and fifty corona patients in critical condition on Dutch intensive care units. “More than half of those patients are under fifty years old. There are also young people. "" That says chairman of the Dutch Association for Intensive Care (NVIC) Diederik Gommers, in an interview with this site." -AD.nl

Over half of the coronavirus patients in intensive care in the Netherlands are under 50 years old

h/t @Momo_x5xhttps://t.co/FFkYTRXzox
— Steve Lookner (@lookner) March 14, 2020


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Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
lol



Not sure why this COVID-19 scare has you willing to go full Government Control over everything.

I suppose everyone has their price and they found yours.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 10:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:


CX: FRANCE NOW PUSHING EPIDEMIC LEVEL. All restos, cafés, non-essential stores closed. MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVID?19 CASES IN CRITICAL CONDITION IN FRANCE ARE UNDER 60; France has 4,500 cases, which doubled in the past 72 hours, said head of French health service. Replaces: pic.twitter.com/DQFmigQYFE
— Rachel Donadio (@RachelDonadio) March 14, 2020



"Today there are between forty and fifty corona patients in critical condition on Dutch intensive care units. “More than half of those patients are under fifty years old. There are also young people. "" That says chairman of the Dutch Association for Intensive Care (NVIC) Diederik Gommers, in an interview with this site." -AD.nl

Over half of the coronavirus patients in intensive care in the Netherlands are under 50 years old

h/t @Momo_x5xhttps://t.co/FFkYTRXzox
— Steve Lookner (@lookner) March 14, 2020




Okay. Sure.

Even though that's against everything that's been reported everywhere so far.

Ratings must be down. We need to scare young people so they buy more car insurance.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 1:47 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


lol

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 1:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

1KIKI:
CX: FRANCE NOW PUSHING EPIDEMIC LEVEL. All restos, cafés, non-essential stores closed. MORE THAN 50% OF THE 300 #COVID?19 CASES IN CRITICAL CONDITION IN FRANCE ARE UNDER 60; France has 4,500 cases, which doubled in the past 72 hours, said head of French health service. Replaces: pic.twitter.com/DQFmigQYFE
— Rachel Donadio (@RachelDonadio) March 14, 2020
"Today there are between forty and fifty corona patients in critical condition on Dutch intensive care units. “More than half of those patients are under fifty years old. There are also young people. "" That says chairman of the Dutch Association for Intensive Care (NVIC) Diederik Gommers, in an interview with this site." -AD.nl

Over half of the coronavirus patients in intensive care in the Netherlands are under 50 years old h/t @Momo_x5xhttps://t.co/FFkYTRXzox
— Steve Lookner (@lookner) March 14, 2020



SIX: Okay. Sure.
Even though that's against everything that's been reported everywhere so far.
Ratings must be down. We need to scare young people so they buy more car insurance.


CAR INSURANCE??? Why would anyone want to buy car insurance if they're driving LESS?? Jeez, that's one of the stupider things you posted since you stopped drinking. I'm with KIKI on this: Who are you, and what have you done with SIX?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 1:59 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just pointing out

On March 7 the total number of cases was approx* 375
On March 15 (two weeks plus one day) approx* 3000.

Almost a factor of ten.

*Differences between sites dues to update-time differences.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yanno, if I can't get intelligent discussion here then I'll just talk to myself. At least I'll be in good company.

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Italy has not turned the corner. Day-on-day new cases are still rising.
Quote:

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-2-03-15-2
0-intl-hnk/index.html


Italy has reported 3,497 new novel coronavirus cases and 175 deaths on Saturday, the highest number of new cases reported in a single day since the outbreak began.

Italy has now confirmed 21,157 cases, second highest in the world after China.

The Italian Ministry of Health said Saturday evening that 1,966 people have recovered from the virus and 1,441 have died. The ministry said 1,518 are being treated in intensive care units.




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Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:CAR INSURANCE??? Why would anyone want to buy car insurance if they're driving LESS?? Jeez, that's one of the stupider things you posted since you stopped drinking. I'm with KIKI on this: Who are you, and what have you done with SIX?



You're still going to need to drive your car, and in most states it's a requirement to have auto insurance. Whether you drive 15 miles in the next six months or 15,000, it makes no matter.

But fine. Boner pills. Whatever they're selling on ad breaks now, if you're honestly trying to tell me that they've stopped selling car insurance on CNN.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just pointing out

On March 7 the total number of cases was approx* 375
On March 15 (two weeks plus one day) approx* 3000.

Almost a factor of ten.

*Differences between sites dues to update-time differences.



It's exactly a factor of 8.

So cool.

We'll have 24,000 cases by March 22nd.

We'll have 192,000 cases by March 29th.

We'll have 1,536,000 cases by April 5th.

We'll have 12,288,000 cases by April 12th.

We'll have 98,304,000 cases by April 19th.

And two weeks before Cinco De Mayo we'll have enough COVID-19 to go around to give every American and illegal the virus 2 or 3 times.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 2:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Italy has not turned the corner. Day-on-day new cases are still rising.
Quote:

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-2-03-15-2
0-intl-hnk/index.html


Italy has reported 3,497 new novel coronavirus cases and 175 deaths on Saturday, the highest number of new cases reported in a single day since the outbreak began.

Italy has now confirmed 21,157 cases, second highest in the world after China.

The Italian Ministry of Health said Saturday evening that 1,966 people have recovered from the virus and 1,441 have died. The ministry said 1,518 are being treated in intensive care units.






There is zero chance that 53.6% of Italians are dying of the virus and only 56.4% of them are recovering.

I recommend that whatever publication put that lie into your head you go right on ahead and cancel your membership to it right now.

Go on. Git!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 3:02 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


snicker

You goofed. I'll let you figure out how, if you can.

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 3:04 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Keep spreading the panic, Maddow.


Cause there's zero chance that over 14.5% of Italians that got it have died either.

For every person who's been tested, there's 10 to 100 people who haven't been because they didn't even know they were sick or they're not pussies that go to the doctor every time they get the sniffles.


More like 1.4%, max. Even more likely 0.14% or less.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, March 15, 2020 3:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I'm going to get ready to do my shopping.

See if you idiots bought out what I want to eat for dinner tonight, and see if I can get a laugh when the toilet paper section is wiped out.

Not that I don't already have 6 months of toilet paper, but it's going to piss me off seeing that I couldn't buy it if I did.


Make sure to wash your hands after you wipe your ass. Especially if you don't have any TP on hand.



Ahhhhh... wordplay

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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