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The "placebos", or at least a good portion of them were poison intended to kill the victims and give the desired results.

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Most of their jobs are no less superfluous than checkout register attendees if it weren't for the fact that people aren't yet comfortable with computers dolling out their pills instead of a human.

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You do understand that providing the standard of medical care is more than just handing out trial pills, right?

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The "placebos", or at least a good portion of them were poison intended to kill the victims and give the desired results.

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That's a crazy thing to say, right there with PN.

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So, you are saying that the people who put these studies together are deliberately poisoning the control group?

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Yet Biden has DOUBLED the Deaths of Trump?

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That's the nature of anything that grows exponentially, whether it's a fire, a nuclear explosion, or a contagion. One starts out with very low numbers, but the bigger it gets, the faster it grows.

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Yet Biden has DOUBLED the Deaths of Trump?

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That's the nature of anything that grows exponentially, whether it's a fire, a nuclear explosion, or a contagion. One starts out with very low numbers, but the bigger it gets, the faster it grows.

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So, you are saying that the people who put these studies together are deliberately poisoning the control group?

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I'm saying that somebody is.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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So, you are saying that the people who put these studies together are deliberately poisoning the control group?

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I'm saying that somebody is.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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My feeling is that all successes are merely temporary.

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Or as I've said for quite some time, it won't be eradicated anywhere until it's eradicated everywhere.

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JSF" If they had the option of getting HCQ and being out of the hospital in hours, or being left to die in this study, what kind of fatalist nimrods chose to die for science? Or die for stupidity's sake?

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'Not Supposed To Happen': US State With Highest Vaxx Rate Sees Record Surge In COVID Cases

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Hmmm... 7/10 are vaccinated. but 4/10 new cases are vaccinated. That means that the vaccinated are getting sick at a MUCH lower rate than the unvaccinated.

Also, Vermont, altho experiencing a peak of "new cases" compared to its own history, is near the bottom (on a per capita basis) compared to other states, and similarly near the bottom of "new deaths" per capita compared to other states in the nation.

So I wouldn't exactly label Vermont as a failure in terms of reducing cases and deaths from Covid because they, and their vaccination policy, seem to be doing better than most other states.

Just as an FYI, Vermont's Delta caseload, like pretty much everyone else's, has peaked and is now declining.

I pisses me of when authors write up phony statistics. THEY know what they're doing, but the unwary reader won't catch on.

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If you're referring to the new antiviral, it wasn't HCQ. And if you ARE referring to the new antiviral, I suggest you learn to read.

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If you're referring to the new antiviral, it wasn't HCQ. And if you ARE referring to the new antiviral, I suggest you learn to read.

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hcq HAS BEEN CURING FOLK ON DEATH'S DOOR FROM COVID SINCE mARCH 2020.

The new study offered patients the opportunity to be in the control group and be left to die, for the good of science.


So their choice was to get well from HCQ, or try the new pill in the study.

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OOPS!

Too little fact!


Just fyi - for those who do get infected, they carry the same amount of virus. But most people don't get infected.

That's something your 'sources' failed to let you know.

compilation of studies from around the globe

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/how-much-protection-covid-19-
vaccines-give-you-against-the-delta-variant-according-to-the-best-available-data/ar-AALURZQ

Scottish study
the test-negative analysis to estimate vaccine effectiveness in preventing RT-PCR-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection showed that, compared to those unvaccinated, at least 14 days after the second dose, BNT162b2 (Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine) offered very good protection: 92% (95% CI 90–93) S gene-negative (alpha variant), 79% (75–82) S gene-positive (delta variant). Protection associated with ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccine) was, however, substantial but reduced: 73% (95% CI 66–78) for S gene-negative cases versus 60% (53–66) for those S gene-positive

Qatar study
BNT162b2 (Pfizer) effectiveness against any Delta infection, symptomatic or asymptomatic, was 64.2% (95% CI: 38.1-80.1%) =14 days after the first dose and before the second dose, but was only 53.5% (95% CI: 43.9-61.4%) =14 days after the second dose in a population in which a large proportion of fully vaccinated persons received their second dose several months earlier. (ie waned over an extended time)
Corresponding effectiveness measures for mRNA-1273 (Moderna) were 79.0% (95% CI: 58.9-90.1%) and 84.8% (95% CI: 75.9-90.8%), respectively.

UK study
the effectiveness of BNT162b2 and ChAd0x1 against any infections (new PCR positives) and infections with symptoms or high viral burden is reduced with the Delta variant. A single dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine had similar or greater effectiveness compared to a single dose of BNT162b2 or ChAdOx1 (Oxford vaccine). Effectiveness of two doses remains at least as great as protection afforded by prior natural infection. The dynamics of immunity following second doses differed significantly between BNT162b2 and ChAdOx1, with greater initial effectiveness against new PCR-positives but faster declines in protection against high viral burden and symptomatic infection with BNT162b2.

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Also, Vermont, altho experiencing a peak of "new cases" compared to its own history, is near the bottom (on a per capita basis) compared to other states, and similarly near the bottom of "new deaths" per capita compared to other states in the nation.

So I wouldn't exactly label Vermont as a failure in terms of reducing cases and deaths from Covid because they, and their vaccination policy, seem to be doing better than most other states.

Just as an FYI, Vermont's Delta caseload, like pretty much everyone else's, has peaked and is now declining.

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Are you in denial?


Although actual figures are nonexistent in that story, or in any of it's links, the story does still quite clearly state the highest hospitalizations since last Jan, the second most deadly month since the pandemic began, and the record level number of case.

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... in Nature’s survey, more than two-thirds of researchers reported negative experiences as a result of their media appearances or their social media comments, and 22% had received threats of physical or sexual violence. Some scientists said that their employer had received complaints about them, or that their home address had been revealed online. Six scientists said they were physically attacked (see Supplementary information for survey data tables).

Coordinated social-media campaigns and threatening e-mails or phone calls to scientists are not new: topics such as climate change, vaccination and the effects of gun violence have drawn similar attacks in the past. But even scientists who had a high profile before COVID-19 told Nature that the abuse was a new and unwelcome phenomenon tied to the pandemic. Many wanted the extent of the problem discussed more openly. “I believe national governments, funding agencies and scientific societies have not done enough to publicly defend scientists,” one researcher wrote in their survey response.

Some researchers say that they have learnt to cope with the harassment, accepting it as an unpleasant but expected side effect of getting information to the public. And 85% of survey respondents said that their experiences of engaging with the media were always or mostly positive, even if they were harassed afterwards (see ‘Media experiences’). “I think scientists need training for how to engage with the media and also about what to expect from trolls — it’s just a part of digital communication,” one wrote.

But Nature’s survey suggests that even though researchers try to shrug off abuse, it might already have had a chilling effect on scientific communication. Those scientists who reported higher frequencies of trolling or personal attacks were also most likely to say that their experiences had greatly affected their willingness to speak to the media in the future (see ‘Chilling effect?’).

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Researchers have succeeded in identifying the proteins in the coronavirus that can damage blood vessels

... Now, for the first time, a team of experts led by Tel Aviv University has been able to identify 5 of the 29 proteins that make up the virus that are responsible for damaging blood vessels. The researchers hope that the identification of these proteins will help develop targeted drugs for COVID-19 that reduce vascular damage.


... "We see a very high incidence of vascular disease and blood clotting, for example stroke and heart attack, among COVID patients," says Dr. Ben Maoz. "We tend to think of COVID as primarily a respiratory disease, but the truth is that coronavirus patients are up to three times more likely to have a stroke or heart attack. All the evidence shows that the virus severely damages the blood vessels or the endothelial cells that line the blood vessels. However, to this day the virus has been treated as one entity. We wanted to find out which proteins in the virus are responsible for this type of damage."

The novel coronavirus is a relatively simple virus -- it comprises a total of 29 different proteins (compared to the tens of thousands of proteins produced by the human body). The Tel Aviv University researchers used the RNA of each of the COVID-19 proteins and examined the reaction that occurred when the various RNA sequences were inserted into human blood vessel cells in the lab; they were thereby able to identify five coronavirus proteins that damage the blood vessels.

"When the coronavirus enters the body, it begins to produce 29 proteins, a new virus is formed, that virus produces 29 new proteins, and so on," explains Dr. Maoz. "In this process, our blood vessels turn from opaque tubes into kind of permeable nets or pieces of cloth, and in parallel there is an increase in blood clotting. We thoroughly examined the effect of each of the 29 proteins expressed by the virus, and were successful in identifying the five specific proteins that cause the greatest damage to endothelial cells and hence to vascular stability and function. In addition, we used a computational model developed by Prof. Sharan which allowed us to assess and identify which coronavirus proteins have the greatest effect on other tissues, without having seen them 'in action' in the lab."

According to Dr. Maoz, the identification of these proteins may have significant consequences in the fight against the virus. "Our research could help find targets for a drug that will be used to stop the virus's activity, or at least minimize damage to blood vessels."

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Pfizer Shares Surge After Release Of 'Miracle' COVID Pill That Is 89% Effective At Preventing Hospitalization
Friday, Nov 05, 2021 - 07:27 AM

Thursday was a rough day for Moderna shares after the company released revenue figures and FY guidance that deeply disappointed Wall Street expectations (potentially destroying the reputation of financier Steve Weiss, arguably Moderna's biggest promoter on Wall Street, in the process). But on Friday, Pfizer - Moderna's biggest rival - rubbed Moderna's nose in it by announcing a revolutionary new oral COVID antiviral similar to the Merck 'miracle pill' that won approval from UK regulators yesterday.

The news sent Pfizer's stock surging, while Moderna and Merck shares tumbled, during premarket trade. Pfizer shares were trading up 11%+:

The key takeaway from the Pfizer announcement is this: Pfizer said studies showed its COVID-19 pill reduced hospitalizations and deaths in high-risk patients by 89%. That's even higher than the 50% reduction in hospitalizations and deaths shown by the Merck pill. Again, like Merck, Pfizer said that it was no longer taking new patients in a clinical trial of the treatment "due to the overwhelming efficacy" of the drug, which it now plans to submit its findings to the FDA for emergency authorization (just like Merck is doing). Yesterday, Merck won approval for its new COVID antiviral, molnupiravir, from regulators in the UK, and it's pushing to wrack up as many EUAs as possible from regulators from all over.

Pfizer is already planning to seek approval emergency approval from the US government because, according to the numbers, its drug is even more effective than molnuiravir. According to the headline numbers, Pfizer's new antiviral is even more effective than the rival pill from Merck. Pfizer’s pill, which will be sold under the brand name Paxlovid, cut the risk of hospitalization or death by 89% when taken within three days after symptoms emerge (the number for Merck's drug was it needed to be taken within 5 days of infection).

“The results are really beyond our wildest dreams,” said Annaliesa Anderson, a Pfizer executive who led the drug’s development. She expressed hope that Paxlovid “can have a big impact on helping all our lives go back to normal again and seeing the end of the pandemic.”

It's expected the new drug will be made available in the US at least but in limited quantities at first.

Criticisms have also been made about the cost of molnupiravir, and Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla already affirmed on CNBC that a course of the drug will cost insurers or customers around $700 (though the firm says it intends to sell the drug at a "discounted" prices to "poorer countries".

Per the NYT:

The U.S. government has been in negotiations with Pfizer for enough pills for 1.7 million courses of treatment, with an additional option for 3.3 million, according to a senior administration official. That is about the same quantity that the United States has ordered from Merck. The government expects to pay about $700 per treatment course for both drugs, the official said.

Both the Pfizer and Merck pills are both geared toward patients regarded as high-risk, including those above the age of 60 or with conditions like obesity that make them more susceptible to severe consequences from COVID.

But while experts again touted the drug's safety profile, several scientists have spoken out about potential safety risks tied to molnupiravir, the Merck drug.

Another important question: what does this mean now for President Biden's increasingly coercive vaccine mandate?

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Pfizer is currently working on multiple studies to investigate the safety and effectiveness of Paxlovid. The so-called EPIC studies, which stand for Evaluation of Protease Inhibition for Covid-19, are split into different types.

There is EPIC-SR, which looks at standard-risk patients with a confirmed COVID infection; EPIC-PEP, which looks at healthy adults who live in the same household as someone with COVID; and EPIC-HR, which looks at non-hospitalized high-risk patients with a confirmed COVID infection.

Pfizer's announcement on Friday follows early analysis of the ongoing EPIC-HR study involving data from hundreds of adults who were enrolled by September 29. Each patient in the study was randomized to receive Paxlovid or a placebo orally every 12 hours for five days within three days of symptom onset.

The data from the study so far looked at patients 28 days after they were randomized. In the Paxlovid group, in which there were 389 people, three ended up being hospitalized and none of them died.

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Europe is facing a potentially devastating winter that could see half a million people die with Covid-19, the World Health Organization (WHO) warned on Thursday ...
Much of Europe is battling spikes in infections, with Germany on Thursday reporting its highest number of daily new cases since the pandemic began.

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Just wait until they start releasing the data on how much Cancer the vaccinations cause.

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