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Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:04 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by THG:

Correct Second. Can't wait till election day myself.

tick tock

It might be as historic as Herbert Hoover vs FDR in 1932 with FDR being steadily smarter than Hoover. Or it might be Bush vs John Kerry in 2004 where an incompetent President was reelected. It was pretty obvious that Bush would get stupider the longer he ruled. Remember second term Hurricane Katrina and the Iraq Insurgency and the Financial Crisis of 2007–08? Trump will get stupider the longer he rules, same as Bush did.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



You 2 are waaaay too confident. You seem all too ready to underestimate the ignorance and hatred of the voting public and the skill and determination of Ruskie hackers.

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 5:01 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by THG:

Correct Second. Can't wait till election day myself.

tick tock

It might be as historic as Herbert Hoover vs FDR in 1932 with FDR being steadily smarter than Hoover. Or it might be Bush vs John Kerry in 2004 where an incompetent President was reelected. It was pretty obvious that Bush would get stupider the longer he ruled. Remember second term Hurricane Katrina and the Iraq Insurgency and the Financial Crisis of 2007–08? Trump will get stupider the longer he rules, same as Bush did.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



You 2 are waaaay too confident. You seem all too ready to underestimate the ignorance and hatred of the voting public and the skill and determination of Ruskie hackers.

I can see your point. Republicans, and even Democrats, are NOT acting as if Trump is obviously crazy. They will probably vote as if this is an ordinary sporting contest between two teams. Tens of millions don't have a strong enough opinion about Trump's insanity to go to the bother of voting.

Many Democrats act as if Trump is only mildly peculiar: More than 2,000 people have already died and Anthony Fauci estimated this morning that the final death toll would be 100-200,000. In the midst of this, Trump is busy insulting the CEO of GM; fighting with governors he doesn’t like; dithering about the Defense Production Act; declining to bother with a plan to tell manufacturers of medical goods where to ship their stuff; explicitly warning that people have to treat him nicely or they won’t get any federal assistance; claiming that he’s going to quarantine New York and then backing off; lying endlessly about the state of testing; and now bragging about the ratings of his press briefings.

From any other human being on the planet this would be considered deranged behavior. Can you imagine what we’d be saying if it were Saddam Hussein bragging about his TV ratings in the middle of a pandemic? But from Trump it’s just normal.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, March 29, 2020 7:02 PM

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Many Democrats act as if Trump is only mildly peculiar...




Many Democrats act as if Biden is only mildly demented.

#WHERESBIDEN



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From any other human being on the planet this would be considered deranged behavior. Can you imagine what we’d be saying if it were Saddam Hussein bragging about his TV ratings in the middle of a pandemic? But from Trump it’s just normal.




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 30, 2020 3:51 AM

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CC:
You 2 are waaaay too confident. You seem all too ready to underestimate the ignorance and hatred of the voting public and the skill and determination of Ruskie hackers.

I think CC got a tickler memo from his handlers not to forget RUSSIA!RUSSIA! and to work it into any current posts as soon as possible.

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Monday, March 30, 2020 9:44 AM

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CC:
You 2 are waaaay too confident. You seem all too ready to underestimate the ignorance and hatred of the voting public and the skill and determination of Ruskie hackers.

I think CC got a tickler memo from his handlers not to forget RUSSIA!RUSSIA! and to work it into any current posts as soon as possible.




What happened to "I'm putting you on ignore again?"


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Monday, March 30, 2020 9:53 AM

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The missing six weeks: how Trump failed the biggest test of his life

The president was aware of the danger from the coronavirus – but a lack of leadership has created an emergency of epic proportions

When the definitive history of the coronavirus pandemic is written, the date 20 January 2020 is certain to feature prominently. It was on that day that a 35-year-old man in Washington state, recently returned from visiting family in Wuhan in China, became the first person in the US to be diagnosed with the virus.

On the very same day, 5,000 miles away in Asia, the first confirmed case of Covid-19 was reported in South Korea. The confluence was striking, but there the similarities ended.

In the two months since that fateful day, the responses to coronavirus displayed by the US and South Korea have been polar opposites.

One country acted swiftly and aggressively to detect and isolate the virus, and by doing so has largely contained the crisis. The other country dithered and procrastinated, became mired in chaos and confusion, was distracted by the individual whims of its leader, and is now confronted by a health emergency of daunting proportions.

More at www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-
health-disaster


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, March 30, 2020 10:01 AM

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Monday, March 30, 2020 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by second:
The missing six weeks: how Trump failed the biggest test of his life

The president was aware of the danger from the coronavirus – but a lack of leadership has created an emergency of epic proportions

When the definitive history of the coronavirus pandemic is written, the date 20 January 2020 is certain to feature prominently. It was on that day that a 35-year-old man in Washington state, recently returned from visiting family in Wuhan in China, became the first person in the US to be diagnosed with the virus.

On the very same day, 5,000 miles away in Asia, the first confirmed case of Covid-19 was reported in South Korea. The confluence was striking, but there the similarities ended.

In the two months since that fateful day, the responses to coronavirus displayed by the US and South Korea have been polar opposites.

One country acted swiftly and aggressively to detect and isolate the virus, and by doing so has largely contained the crisis. The other country dithered and procrastinated, became mired in chaos and confusion, was distracted by the individual whims of its leader, and is now confronted by a health emergency of daunting proportions.

More at www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/28/trump-coronavirus-politics-us-
health-disaster





Fwiw I read that South Korea was widely criticized for it's poor response to the Ebola scare, and that was a big reason why their response to c-19 was so aggressive.

I don't blame Trump - he's a f*cking idiot.

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Monday, March 30, 2020 12:49 PM

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So...

Question: Who believes that China has only had 82,198 cases and after the 3,308 deaths and 75,923 people recovered they only have 2,967 people in the entire country still infected?

Answer: Nobody. Nobody in the entire world believes that.


China is even more full of shit than Second is.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, March 30, 2020 2:33 PM

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You 2 are waaaay too confident. You seem all too ready to underestimate the ignorance and hatred of the voting public and the skill and determination of Ruskie hackers.

I think CC got a tickler memo from his handlers not to forget RUSSIA!RUSSIA! and to work it into any current posts as soon as possible.




What happened to "I'm putting you on ignore again?"




I'll say this about the elections G. Soon enough we'll see the airwaves full of Trump videos. All the lies and all the fuckups. Trump saying, I never said that, and then him saying it.

Like the Coronavirus is fake news; a hoax. Like he never disbanded Obamas pandemic committee, then him explaining why he did it. At which point we'll have tens of thousands dead and dying. God help us, perhaps a hundred thousand or more. I'm hearing now best case is 1 to 2 hundred thousand dead. Holy shit G, holy shit.

tick tock G tick tock

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Monday, March 30, 2020 2:36 PM

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CC:
You 2 are waaaay too confident. You seem all too ready to underestimate the ignorance and hatred of the voting public and the skill and determination of Ruskie hackers.

I think CC got a tickler memo from his handlers not to forget RUSSIA!RUSSIA! and to work it into any current posts as soon as possible.




What happened to "I'm putting you on ignore again?"




I'll say this about the elections G. Soon enough we'll see the airwaves full of Trump videos. All the lies and all the fuckups. Trump saying, I never said that, and then him saying it. Like the Coronavirus is fake news; a hoax. At which point we'll have tens of thousands dead and dying.

tick tock G tick tock

T


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T just sitting there with nothing to do but hope and wish and pray that a lot of people will die because that's the only way that Trump loses the election in November.

Little does he know that Trump still isn't going to lose in November, regardless.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_app
roval-6179.html


https://www.oddsshark.com/politics/presidential-election-betting-props

That clock can't tick fast enough.





Go ahead and tell everyone how much you want to see me dead again, idiot.




Oh, BTW...

#WHERESBIDEN


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Monday, March 30, 2020 3:32 PM

BRENDA


First case I have heard of Covid-19 on a reservation. It comes from Washington State. Puyallup nation. Band offices being deep cleaned. Band member is in the hospital.

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Monday, March 30, 2020 4:35 PM

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First case I have heard of Covid-19 on a reservation. It comes from Washington State. Puyallup nation. Band offices being deep cleaned. Band member is in the hospital.



It's spreading to places that you would think might be spared either because of their remoteness or their isolation - this thing is so fast. And it just takes one mistake.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/delaware-county-prison-employee-coronaviru
s-cases-pennysylvania
/

A Delaware County prison employee at the George W. Hill Correctional Facility in Glen Mills, Pennsylvania has tested positive for COVID-19. It is one of the first reported cases of coronavirus in the world as of Saturday, March 13. The prison says it has quarantined 11 of its 1883 inmates that it has capacity for.
A prison employee at George W. Hill Correctional Facility in Delaware County tested positive for coronavirus Friday, leading to a quarantine of 11 inmates.

The unnamed employee has not been in the Glen Mills, Pa. facility for seven days, The Delaware County Daily Times reported early Saturday. It is one of the first reported cases of coronavirus at a prison in the world. There was another one Friday in Seattle, where the positive test also came from a staff member.

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Monday, March 30, 2020 9:32 PM

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Monday, March 30, 2020 11:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
First case I have heard of Covid-19 on a reservation. It comes from Washington State. Puyallup nation. Band offices being deep cleaned. Band member is in the hospital.



It's spreading to places that you would think might be spared either because of their remoteness or their isolation - this thing is so fast. And it just takes one mistake.

https://www.phillyvoice.com/delaware-county-prison-employee-coronaviru
s-cases-pennysylvania
/

A Delaware County prison employee at the George W. Hill Correctional Facility in Glen Mills, Pennsylvania has tested positive for COVID-19. It is one of the first reported cases of coronavirus in the world as of Saturday, March 13. The prison says it has quarantined 11 of its 1883 inmates that it has capacity for.
A prison employee at George W. Hill Correctional Facility in Delaware County tested positive for coronavirus Friday, leading to a quarantine of 11 inmates.

The unnamed employee has not been in the Glen Mills, Pa. facility for seven days, The Delaware County Daily Times reported early Saturday. It is one of the first reported cases of coronavirus at a prison in the world. There was another one Friday in Seattle, where the positive test also came from a staff member.



You would think CC but all it takes is for 1 person to leave the reservation and come into contact with someone infected and bring it back. That looks like this case to me. Even being on a reserve isn't going to be safe.

As for a prison someone picked up before everything really hit the fan and a prison or jail is an incubator. No real surprise there.

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Tuesday, March 31, 2020 9:44 AM

THG


It's going to get much much worse; River Tam...

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Tuesday, March 31, 2020 10:08 AM

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U.S. Suffers Deadliest Day Of Coronavirus Outbreak Thus Far


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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 3:31 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I think Tom Luongo (or was it Peter Lavelle?) summed up the net effect of the bailout best by saying that smalll and medium-sized businesses would go under while the big businesses would be ready to buy them up: an era of consolidation of money at the top as has never happened before in US history.

I need to go thru the provisions of the bailout bill to get an idea of who is getting more money than whom. But I suspect that it will be the big businesses (like SECOND's gas=fracking operation) that will get the hundreds of thousands of dollars while regular people and small businesses will get pennies, comparatively. Because the elite ... they can always find a way to profit from catastrophe, even if it's one they created themselves (a la 2008).

It may take a while, but eventually some people will catch on that they've been drained dry, again, while the elites get away clean. Again.

What people forget is that Occupy started in 2011...three years into Obama's first term ... as a protest against the wealth inequality that Obama's policies engendered. The same will go for Trump, if this turns out to be just another giveaway to the wealthy.

A lot of people are predicting that "the way we do business" will be changed "forever". That the globalist agenda is dead, not to return. That we will revive manufacturing and return to a more normal, less financialized and debt-burdened economy.

Well, I doubt it. If the western elites and the general public have anything to say about it, things would return to "normal" asap, no matter how dysfunctional "normal" might be. It's fun to spend the world's reserve currency and pile up debt without ever thinking that you're going to have to pay it off. People like a lot of stuff with no work ... when Iceland was borrowing at a rate 3X the national GDP, they were the happiest people on earth (by global poll, literally the happiest). Change, when change comes to the USA, will be forced from the outside, not by reform from the inside because the elites have a stranglehold not only our our politicians but also on our media, whether it's broadcast, cable, internet, or satellite.

Some day, the Chinese or the Canadians or the EU is going to refuse to accept the dollar, and that will do more to change "the way we do business" than any number of pandemics.

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:18 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I need to go thru the provisions of the bailout bill to get an idea of who is getting more money than whom. But I suspect that it will be the big businesses (like SECOND's gas=fracking operation) that will get the hundreds of thousands of dollars while regular people and small businesses will get pennies, comparatively. Because the elite ... they can always find a way to profit from catastrophe, even if it's one they created themselves (a la 2008).

The CARES Act passed by Congress last week prohibits banks from foreclosing on any federally backed mortgages until May. If the homeowner faces economic difficulties due to COVID-19, then banks must offer forbearance for 360 days.
www.skadden.com/insights/publications/2020/03/cares-act-provides-much-
needed-stimulus#real


Forbearance was NOT a GOP idea. The Democrats crammed it down the Republicans' throats: this either goes into the bill or the bill will not pass in the House of Representatives.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 10:53 AM

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 11:23 AM

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It can't be. People were dying around the world and he said it was a hoax the democrats started to hurt his reelection. Anybody remember that?

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 11:29 AM

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 1:50 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I guarantee, nobody will remember this by election day. And if they're reminded, they'll just get pissed off.

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 2:27 PM

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I guarantee, nobody will remember this by election day. And if they're reminded, they'll just get pissed off.



Wait until it hits middle America. You know, those who went to Trump rallies and believed him when he said it was a hoax so they didn't take precautions. You know, those who's parents and grandparents are now dead. You know, when family members regardless of age who had other medical concerns are now dead

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 2:37 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


We'll see. So far the hardest-hit areas are urban, and tightly-connected suburbs (like NYC, New Jersey, and Connecticut). I'm not sure it'll have a big impact on small towns, villages, and isolated farms. And I'm pretty cynical about Americans' abilities to empathize with others, or their abilities to remember beyond a couple of weeks.

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 2:55 PM

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Mike Barnicle: Deconstructing Government Is Not The Answer


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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 3:31 PM

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We'll see. So far the hardest-hit areas are urban, and tightly-connected suburbs (like NYC, New Jersey, and Connecticut). I'm not sure it'll have a big impact on small towns, villages, and isolated farms. And I'm pretty cynical about Americans' abilities to empathize with others, or their abilities to remember beyond a couple of weeks.



Kiki reservations are somewhat isolated and I just reported of a case in Washington state on a reserve. So, no I do not think that even small communities will be immune.

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 4:30 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I hope you don't think I'm being dismissive of anybody.

I've just been looking at the hardest hit places and I think I see a pattern - basically where lots of highly mobile people intermingle in dense conditions (NYC Grand Central Station, Wuhan wet-market) and live in dense conditions (like large apartment buildings in NYC and/ or multi-generation households like Bergamo).

So, I'm not saying small places are immune; but geographically, maybe not as wildly impacted as NYC(New Jersey, Connecticut), which is the hardest hit and most densely populated, as well as most highly interconnected, place in N America.

Meanwhile, here in SoCal, the very definition of where everything is dispersed, the virus is spreading, but more slowly.

I think places like reservations or small towns can be individually hard-hit, in the sense they can be each like a small NYC. Everybody connects to everybody. At the moment, though, I don't see the rampant spread across the US or Canada like in Wuhan, Bergamo, or NYC.

But I could be wrong. Time will tell.

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 9:34 PM

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Fox Viewers Still Believe the Risk of Coronavirus Is Exaggerated. There’s more: 39 percent believe the virus was developed in a lab—presumably a Chinese bioweapons lab. It’s been astonishing to see just how far Fox will go to turn nearly anything into a partisan issue.

More at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/04/fox-viewers-still-believe-risk-
of-coronavirus-is-exaggerated
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 9:43 PM

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Key Medical Supplies Were Shipped From U.S. Manufacturers to Foreign Buyers, Records Show

April 1 2020, 2:10 p.m.

While much of the world moved swiftly to lock down crucial medical supplies used to treat the coronavirus, the U.S. dithered, maintaining business as normal and allowing large shipments of American-made respirators and ventilators to be sold to foreign buyers.

The foreign shipments, detailed in dozens of government records, show exports to other hot spots where the pandemic has spread, including East Asia and Europe.

The records show dozens of shipments of respirator equipment, medical garments, medical masks, oxygen concentrators, and ventilators sent abroad over the last two months.

The U.S. government has placed no restrictions on exports of medical supplies while continuing to impose financial penalties on the import of personal protective gear, protective goggles, pulse oximeters, hand sanitizer, and other medical products from China.

“An ideal policy,” Webb said, “would demand corporations give the U.S. government and U.S. health care entities the right of first refusal for PPE and related equipment during a national emergency.”

More at https://theintercept.com/2020/04/01/coronavirus-medical-supplies-expor
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Fox Viewers Still Believe the Risk of Coronavirus Is Exaggerated. There’s more: 39 percent believe the virus was developed in a lab—presumably a Chinese bioweapons lab. It’s been astonishing to see just how far Fox will go to turn nearly anything into a partisan issue.

More at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/04/fox-viewers-still-believe-risk-
of-coronavirus-is-exaggerated
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



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Fox News Claims It Never Called COVID-19 a Hoax


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Wednesday, April 1, 2020 11:54 PM

BRENDA


KIKI, I see where you are going with this and you are right. The clusters that we are seeing BC are as I stated in long term care facilities because people who are infected come in and visit, pass it on to their loved one. The loved one is in a confined environment anyways and so it spreads.

I don't think you are being dismissive. As I said I can see where you are going with everything you said.

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 1:31 AM

SIGNYM

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It’s been astonishing to see just how far [you] will go to turn nearly anything into a partisan issue.


Yanno, like the RUSSIA!RUSSIA! hoax.
The "golden showers" hoax.
The "Russia hacked our elections" hoax.
The Ukraingate hoax.
The "Covington student beats up Native elder" hoax.
The RAPE!RAPE! [Kavanuagh] hoax.
The "Assad gassed his own peole" hoax
The "Juan Guaido is President of Venezuela" hoax.

If nobody believes the M$M, it's entirely the M$Ms fault.

Nobody believes you, either, and that's your fault too.

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 7:52 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND -
Quote:

It’s been astonishing to see just how far [you] will go to turn nearly anything into a partisan issue.


Yanno, like the RUSSIA!RUSSIA! hoax.
The "golden showers" hoax.
The "Russia hacked our elections" hoax.
The Ukraingate hoax.
The "Covington student beats up Native elder" hoax.
The RAPE!RAPE! [Kavanuagh] hoax.
The "Assad gassed his own peole" hoax
The "Juan Guaido is President of Venezuela" hoax.

If nobody believes the M$M, it's entirely the M$Ms fault.

Nobody believes you, either, and that's your fault too.

Philosophically, I deal with Trump-like characters all the time in Texas. I am sorting lies from truth all day long. But, Signym, with your kind of thinking, it would follow that these two stories must be unbelievable and false and the M$M is entirely at fault:

1) COVID-19 vaccine candidates: 6 front-runners
More at https://abcnews.go.com/Health/covid-19-vaccine-candidates-front-runner
s/story?id=69881230


2) A new type of vaccine using RNA could help defeat COVID-19

We’re currently developing novel vaccine candidates for Zika, and have successfully developed a potential protective antibody-based treatment – in 90 days – to stop that viral disease. Fast-track “sprints” like these are part of the Pandemic Protection Platform Program run by the Defense Advanced Research Agency of the U.S. Department of Defense to help us identify and deploy protective antibody treatments against viral outbreaks, such as SARS-CoV-2. Now other colleagues of ours are working on expediting a new type of vaccine for COVID-19.

Instead of the standard vaccines where viral proteins are used to immunize, an mRNA vaccine provides a synthetic mRNA of the virus, which the host body (that means you, the vaccinated person) then uses to produce the viral proteins itself.

The biggest advantage of the mRNA vaccines is that they can bypass the hassle of producing pure viral proteins (in a pharmaceutical factory), sometimes saving months or years to standardize and ramp up the mass production.

The mRNA vaccines basically mimic the natural infection of the virus, but they contain only a short synthetic version of the viral mRNA which encodes only the antigen protein. Since the mRNA used in vaccination cannot become part of the person’s chromosomes, they are safe to use. Such mRNA vaccines would also be safer than the weakened viral or protein-based vaccines because they do not carry the risk of the injected virus becoming active, or a protein contamination.

An mRNA vaccine for COVID-19 to undergo trial.

Using this strategy, biotechnology firm Moderna Inc. announced on Feb. 24 that it had rapidly developed an experimental COVID-19 mRNA vaccine called mRNA-1273, ready for clinical trials in humans. This vaccine candidate is funded by the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations, in collaboration with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. The mRNA-1273 encodes for a stable form of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.

More at https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-a-new-type-of-vaccine-using-rn
a-could-help-defeat-covid-19-133217


www.google.com/search?q=mRNA-1273

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 8:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND -
Quote:

It’s been astonishing to see just how far [you] will go to turn nearly anything into a partisan issue.


The RAPE!RAPE! [Kavanuagh] hoax.

If nobody believes the M$M, it's entirely the M$Ms fault.

Nobody believes you, either, and that's your fault too.

The Senate's Kavanaugh vote clearly shows that he ought NOT to be on the Supreme Court.
www.politico.com/interactives/2018/brett-kavanaugh-senate-confirmation
-vote-count
/

What should have happened to Kavanaugh, Brett is that he stays off the Supreme Court, which is what happened to Miers, Harriet and Bork, Robert H.
www.senate.gov/legislative/nominations/SupremeCourtNominations1789pres
ent.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsuccessful_nominations_to_the_Supreme_
Court_of_the_United_States


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Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:12 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNY:
SECOND -
Quote:

It’s been astonishing to see just how far [you] will go to turn nearly anything into a partisan issue.


Yanno, like the RUSSIA!RUSSIA! hoax.
The "golden showers" hoax.
The "Russia hacked our elections" hoax.
The Ukraingate hoax.
The "Covington student beats up Native elder" hoax.
The RAPE!RAPE! [Kavanuagh] hoax.
The "Assad gassed his own peole" hoax
The "Juan Guaido is President of Venezuela" hoax.

If nobody believes the M$M, it's entirely the M$Ms fault.

Nobody believes you, either, and that's your fault too.

SECOND: Philosophically, I deal with Trump-like characters all the time in Texas.

Doubtful. Trump is from NYC not Texas, and they're not at all alike. What you're dealing with is TEXANS, who you like to think are like Trump, but aren't, really.

Quote:

I am sorting lies from truth all day long.
Doubtful. You tell yourself some pretty big whoppers, and you believe them.

That's about as far as I got with your post, which is prolly farther that I get with most of your posts bc why should I waste my time wading thru endless bullshit?

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:48 AM

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Signym, Trump like characters, businessmen who lie, sue you when they don't keep their contractual promises, cheat their suppliers, employees, customers and investors are very common in Texas. Why someone like Trump became your "loose cannon" I will never know.

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:50 AM

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The Far Right Is Looking for Miracles and Scapegoats to Bail Us Out of the Coronavirus Crisis

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/far-right-conspiracy-fauci
-security-miracle-cure-scapegoat-coronavirus.html


The U.S. government is now providing a security detail for infectious-diseases expert Dr. Anthony Fauci because, as his stature has grown as one of the pillars of the American response to the pandemic, so have the rumblings of the far right, conspiracy theory wing of President Donald Trump’s support.

The right wing sees Fauci carefully disagree with Trump on a national stage and artfully try to bring the president of the United States back into the fold of reasoned decision-making and Trumpistas see a deep state plant. Trump wants a vaccine, a drug of any sort, a miracle cure that will take the place of the difficult decisions that he was elected to make.

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Signym, Trump like characters, businessmen who lie, sue you when they don't keep their contractual promises, cheat their suppliers, employees, customers and investors are very common in Texas. Why someone like Trump became your "loose cannon" I will never know.

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Every time sig posts lists claiming Trump didn't do any of it, you know sig is a troll because he did all of it. Sig is a Russian troll whose opinions are irrelevant.

T


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Thursday, April 2, 2020 11:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Every time sig posts lists claiming Trump didn't do any of it, you know sig is a troll because he did all of it. Sig is a Russian troll whose opinions are irrelevant.



She's definitely a troll/agitator. She is constantly going on and on about Russia. Same sh*t, different day.

second - thanks for the news about a potential vaccine. Almost any news about treatment is good news. It's the one thing I try and share with friends to lift them up a bit, "there are scads oif teams working on this day and night, triple over time." The best part is they know the underlying logic is really solid - and that's because it's based on Greed. We all know how powerful that is. The mountain of cashy money waiting for the group that gets a treatment and/or vaccine ready could dwarf Fuji.

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 11:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Every time sig posts lists claiming Trump didn't do any of it, you know sig is a troll because he did all of it. Sig is a Russian troll whose opinions are irrelevant.

T


Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

A Signym quote from this page: "Change, when change comes to the USA, will be forced from the outside, not by reform from the inside because the elites have a stranglehold not only our our politicians but also on our media, whether it's broadcast, cable, internet, or satellite." It is such a load of Signym bullshit -- Signym has read too much dialectical materialism. The actual American situation is far simpler -- the Republican Party has the stranglehold. The voters in some states, not all, gave it to the GOP. Until those particular voters stop giving the GOP power with their votes, the wealthy GOP "elite" will continue strangling and squeezing out money.

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

second - thanks for the news about a potential vaccine. Almost any news about treatment is good news. It's the one thing I try and share with friends to lift them up a bit, "there are scads oif teams working on this day and night, triple over time." The best part is they know the underlying logic is really solid - and that's because it's based on Greed. We all know how powerful that is. The mountain of cashy money waiting for the group that gets a treatment and/or vaccine ready could dwarf Fuji.

The company testing the mRNA-1273 vaccine, Moderna, was selling 6 months ago for $15/share and today is $31. Money will be made if its vaccine goes on sale.

www.google.com/search?q=moderna+stock+price
www.modernatx.com/modernas-work-potential-vaccine-against-covid-19



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Thursday, April 2, 2020 11:59 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

THUGR:
Every time sig posts lists claiming Trump didn't do any of it, you know sig is a troll because he did all of it. Sig is a Russian troll whose opinions are irrelevant.

CC: She's definitely a troll/agitator. She is constantly going on and on about Russia. Same sh*t, different day.

The person who goes on and on about Russia is YOU, cc, with THUGR a close second. Because, yanno, KIKI actually did a thread count and you come out the clear winner. All I want to know is: Who's your handler?

I'M going on and on about our M$M and our monied elites, who have captured both parties.

What SECOND fails to recall is that Occupy occurred in 2011, three years into the Obama administration, to protest his protecting the powerful and feeding the rich. As I recall, Obama was a Democrat.

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

What SECOND fails to recall is that Occupy occurred in 2011, three years into the Obama administration, to protest his protecting the powerful and feeding the rich. As I recall, Obama was a Democrat.

If Occupy Wall Street had been serious rather than a clown show, Wall Street bankers would have needed bullet-proof vests and bomb-proof limousines. But Occupy wasn't serious in the least and spilled not a single drop of their own blood or Wall Street Banker blood. Revolution? Cannot be done with only talking and protesting. American's Wall Street will not be changed by passive resistance. MLK Junior is glorified, and even has a monument in Washington DC, but all the credit and a monument should rightly go to the inglorious rioters, murderers and arsonists that actually motivated LBJ to change voting rights laws.
http://occupywallst.org/

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 12:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

Every time sig posts lists claiming Trump didn't do any of it, you know sig is a troll because he did all of it. Sig is a Russian troll whose opinions are irrelevant.

T


Deep state describes dedicated, educated professionals.

A Signym quote from this page: "Change, when change comes to the USA, will be forced from the outside, not by reform from the inside because the elites have a stranglehold not only our our politicians but also on our media, whether it's broadcast, cable, internet, or satellite." It is such a load of Signym bullshit -- Signym has read too much dialectical materialism. The actual American situation is far simpler -- the Republican Party has the stranglehold. The voters in some states, not all, gave it to the GOP. Until those particular voters stop giving the GOP power with their votes, the wealthy GOP "elite" will continue strangling and squeezing out money.

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Absolutely Second. And she thinks we don't see right through her. We do; she's a commie troll. And as I said. What she posts is irrelevant. It's garbled truths and facts (confused and distorted; unclear.) That are meant to influence a conversation in a dishonest way.

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 1:29 PM

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Is Donald Trump Criminally Responsible for Coronavirus Deaths?

Deaths from Covid-19 continued to mount this week as the U.S. surpassed 200,000 confirmed cases, more than any other country in the world. Experts increasingly point to President Donald Trump’s willful negligence as a primary cause of the pandemic’s intensity, but MSNBC legal analyst Glenn Kirscher takes things a step further, arguing controversially that Trump could be legally liable for coronavirus deaths after he leaves office. He makes the case to Mehdi Hasan on this week’s podcast.

https://theintercept.com/2020/04/02/is-donald-trump-criminally-respons
ible-for-coronavirus-deaths
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Thursday, April 2, 2020 1:51 PM

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Is Donald Trump Criminally Responsible for Coronavirus Deaths?

Deaths from Covid-19 continued to mount this week as the U.S. surpassed 200,000 confirmed cases, more than any other country in the world. Experts increasingly point to President Donald Trump’s willful negligence as a primary cause of the pandemic’s intensity, but MSNBC legal analyst Glenn Kirscher takes things a step further, arguing controversially that Trump could be legally liable for coronavirus deaths after he leaves office. He makes the case to Mehdi Hasan on this week’s podcast.

https://theintercept.com/2020/04/02/is-donald-trump-criminally-respons
ible-for-coronavirus-deaths
/

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Trump now says he knew the virus ‘could be horrible’ when he was saying things like ‘it’s going to disappear’

Trump’s answer basically came down to: He did not want to deliver the bad news about how serious the virus could be. What’s more, he said he knew ahead of time it could be this bad (or even worse, killing millions with no government intervention whatsoever), but he did not want to tell Americans that at the time.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-now-says-he-knew-the-vir
us-could-be-horrible-when-he-was-saying-things-like-it-s-going-to-disappear/ar-BB121FyX?ocid=msedgntp


Yes, he is.

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 3:22 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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The Senate's Kavanaugh vote clearly shows that he ought NOT to be on the Supreme Court.
www.politico.com/interactives/2018/brett-kavanaugh-senate-confirmation
-vote-count/

Snicker. What the vote showed was CLEARLY an extremely partisan divide. And that's all it showed. ...

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Thursday, April 2, 2020 3:26 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Signym, Trump like characters, businessmen who lie, sue you when they don't keep their contractual promises, cheat their suppliers, employees, customers and investors are very common in Texas. Why someone like Trump became your "loose cannon" I will never know.

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Every time sig posts lists claiming Trump didn't do any of it, you know sig is a troll because he did all of it. Sig is a Russian troll whose opinions are irrelevant.

T


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Thursday, April 2, 2020 3:29 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

She is constantly going on and on about Russia. Same sh*t, different day.
And yet - YOU'RE the one who's started 6X more posts with Russia in the title than the next person down the list, and has the highest percentage posts in Russia-titled threads, compared to everyone else.

Why are YOU going on and on about Russia? Same sh*t, different day.

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