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Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:43 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Yanno, JACK, if you REALLY want to make a case about how doing nothing about COVID-19 is such a great idea, work on telling us what's great about Brazil.

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:45 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Yanno, JACK, if you REALLY want to make a case about how doing nothing about COVID-19 is such a great idea, work on telling us what's great about Brazil.




Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

take over Hong Kong
not America
Quote:

push the US out of Afghanistan
not America

And let me add a few more to the list out of many.

Syria - not America
Iran - not America
Iraq - not America
Venezuela - not America

And for historic context there's this.

S Vietnam - not America




Added to the list:

Brazil - not America

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:52 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Brazil is your ideal, isn't it?

And it should be the very best-case scenario for COVID-19 do-nothing policy.

The population is young, it's highly exposed to contagious diseases which means they have highly-activated immune systems, and they don't have lots of old people in care-homes to drag down the averages.

It's a JACK-do-nothing heaven.



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Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:33 AM

THG


Coronavirus cases rose by nearly 50 percent last month, led by states that reopened first

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-cases-rose-by-nearly-50-
percent-last-month-led-by-states-that-reopened-first/ar-BB16ehiT?ocid=msedgdhp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:34 AM

THG


Coronavirus Live Updates: U.S. Reports Nearly 50,000 New Cases, Another Single-Day Record

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-live-updates-u-s-reports
-nearly-50-000-new-cases-another-single-day-record/ar-BB16dYtN?ocid=msedgdhp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:37 AM

THG


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Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:37 AM

THG


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Thursday, July 2, 2020 7:45 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


U.S. buys up world stock of key Covid-19 drug remdesivir as the pandemic in the US is spiraling out of control.

The US has bought up virtually all the stocks for the next three months of one of the two drugs proven to work against Covid-19, leaving none for the UK, Europe or most of the rest of the world.

Experts and campaigners are alarmed both by the US unilateral action on remdesivir and the wider implications, for instance in the event of a vaccine becoming available. The Trump administration has already shown that it is prepared to outbid and outmanoeuvre all other countries to secure the medical supplies it needs for the US.

“They’ve got access to most of the drug supply [of remdesivir], so there’s nothing for Europe,” said Dr Andrew Hill, senior visiting research fellow at Liverpool University.

Remdesivir, the first drug approved by licensing authorities in the US to treat Covid-19, is made by Gilead and has been shown to help people recover faster from the disease. The first 140,000 doses, supplied to drug trials around the world, have been used up. The Trump administration has now bought more than 500,000 doses, which is all of Gilead’s production for July and 90% of August and September.

“President Trump has struck an amazing deal to ensure Americans have access to the first authorised therapeutic for Covid-19,” said the US health and human services secretary, Alex Azar. “To the extent possible, we want to ensure that any American patient who needs remdesivir can get it. The Trump administration is doing everything in our power to learn more about life-saving therapeutics for Covid-19 and secure access to these options for the American people.”

The drug, which was invented for Ebola but failed to work, is under patent to Gilead, which means no other company in wealthy countries can make it. The cost is around $3,200 per treatment of six doses, according to the US government statement.

The deal was announced as it became clear that the pandemic in the US is spiraling out of control.

More at www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/30/us-buys-up-world-stock-of-key-
covid-19-drug


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Yanno, JACK, if you REALLY want to make a case about how doing nothing about COVID-19 is such a great idea, work on telling us what's great about Brazil.




Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

take over Hong Kong
not America
Quote:

push the US out of Afghanistan
not America

And let me add a few more to the list out of many.

Syria - not America
Iran - not America
Iraq - not America
Venezuela - not America

And for historic context there's this.

S Vietnam - not America




Added to the list:

Brazil - not America

Do Right, Be Right. :)


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Brazil is your ideal, isn't it?

And it should be the very best-case scenario for COVID-19 do-nothing policy.

The population is young, it's highly exposed to contagious diseases which means they have highly-activated immune systems, and they don't have lots of old people in care-homes to drag down the averages.

It's a JACK-do-nothing heaven.





So Kiki's not-America logic only works when it suits her agenda.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 9:51 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


U.S. COVID-19 death toll may be 28 percent higher than officially thought

www.newsweek.com/u-s-coronavirus-death-toll-may-higher-officially-thou
ght-1514911


The researchers estimated the number of undocumented COVID-19 fatalities by counting what are known as "excess deaths." This is a common way for experts to measure the impact of a new infectious pathogen, such as a pandemic flu, when there is a lack of comprehensive testing, according to the team.

They did this by calculating a baseline number of expected deaths in the U.S. between March 1 and May 30 in years prior to 2020. They then subtracted the expected number of deaths each week from the documented deaths between March 1 to May 30, 2020, when the COVID-19 pandemic had hit.

Daniel M. Weinberger, associate professor of epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health, and colleagues included 48 states and the District of Columbia in the study, but excluded North Carolina and Connecticut due to issues with data.

The data accessed on June 12, 2020 revealed approximately 781,000 people died in the U.S. between March 1 to May 30, 2020, including 122,300 excess deaths compared to previous years.

There were 95,235 excess deaths attributed to COVID-19, meaning that 28 percent of the 122,300 excess deaths from any cause have not been attributed to the disease.

The team noted that the National Center for Health Statistics, from where they drew some of the data, could be incomplete due to delays in reporting.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 1:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

So Kiki's not-America logic only works when it suits her agenda.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It was specifically for where US troops are protecting 'America's' interests.

You've turned into SECOND and THUGGER combined, complete with taking quotes out of context, from different threads, AND off topic.


You're become a complete asshole, JACKSHIT.


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Thursday, July 2, 2020 1:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

So Kiki's not-America logic only works when it suits her agenda.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It was specifically for where US troops are protecting 'America's' interests.

You've turned into SECOND and THUGGER combined, complete with taking quotes out of context, from different threads, AND off topic.


You're become a complete asshole, JACKSHIT.






Why bring up Brazil?

Why not look at any of the states here doing just fine?

There are plenty of them. And we're not all wearing masks.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:50 PM

BRENDA


Travel advisory being lifted between Northern Alberta and Saskatchewan.

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:19 PM

BRENDA


Looks like Nunavut isn't going to come out of this unscathed. It has logged its first presumptive case of Covid-19. Worker at a mining camp. The person came in from outside the territory for work. They and all contacts are in isolation.

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Thursday, July 2, 2020 11:22 PM

BRENDA


BC is now starting to have the same problem Alberta did last month. Americans getting around the loophole in the border closure by saying that they are travelling through to Alaska. Only they aren't, they are VACATIONING HERE. Which I have stated before THEY SHOULD NOT BE DOING.

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Friday, July 3, 2020 12:47 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


If you thot he sound wuz bad in that last vid, it got worse now. Almost totally gon so I had sum fun with it in the title and description:



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Friday, July 3, 2020 12:51 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Same here, read the description under the video:



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Friday, July 3, 2020 9:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You sir, have an awesome work shop.

There has got to be a good job out there for a man with your talent.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 3, 2020 10:01 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Thanks, man.

Tested the mask this morning:



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Monday, July 6, 2020 3:30 PM

THG


South Dakota governor, exposed to virus, joined Trump on jet

Shortly after fireworks above Mount Rushmore disappeared into the night sky on Friday, South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem accompanied President Donald Trump aboard Air Force One despite having had close contact with Trump’s son’s girlfriend, who had tested positive for the coronavirus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/south-dakota-governor-exposed-
to-virus-joined-trump-on-jet/ar-BB16pbfV?ocid=msedgntp


Oops...

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 6, 2020 3:41 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Thanks, man.

Tested the mask this morning:




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JO you're amazing. If I heard right you shot the video at 1:55 am. I hope you've rested up since then.

JO for president.

T


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Monday, July 6, 2020 5:55 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
South Dakota governor, exposed to virus, joined Trump on jet

Shortly after fireworks above Mount Rushmore disappeared into the night sky on Friday, South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem accompanied President Donald Trump aboard Air Force One despite having had close contact with Trump’s son’s girlfriend, who had tested positive for the coronavirus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/south-dakota-governor-exposed-
to-virus-joined-trump-on-jet/ar-BB16pbfV?ocid=msedgntp


Oops...

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.



If the Governor of South Dakota turns up positive I call it poetic justice. This woman threatened to take several bands of Dakota to court to get them to drop their check points for people wanting to cross through their reserves.

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Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:23 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Trump spent the day yesterday exhorting state and local authorities to open their schools in the fall regardless of the circumstances, saying that he planned to apply a lot of pressure to get it done. He didn't offer any federal support for this demand, clearly not having even thought about the possible complications for teachers, administrators and families.

According to CNN's Daniel Dale, Trump said in an interview that there's a lot of time to figure it all out, apparently unaware that in many districts school would normally start in as little as six or seven weeks from now.
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1280702722346561547?s=20

It's curious that someone who clearly doesn't care about education is so adamant about this subject, but the likeliest explanation is that he believes the only reason state and local officials are reluctant to reopen schools because they want to hurt him politically. In other words, even the issue of how to conduct the school year during a raging pandemic is all about him.

www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-safely
-reopening-americas-schools
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, July 8, 2020 5:01 PM

THG


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


Fox News consistently reports lies and reports unverified information as fact. Their “coverage” of Covid19 has revealed just how low they are willing to go to remain in Trump’s good graces.


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Wednesday, July 8, 2020 5:52 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


As Fred Trump Jr. lay dying of a cardiac condition the family waited a week before seeking medical help. Decades later, Mary Trump says she sees the dysfunction she witnessed as a young member of the Trump clan playing out on a national scale during the pandemic. Instead of acting swiftly to address Covid-19, the President has refused to take responsibility for early mistakes or to meaningfully adjust as things grew worse. Incapable of facing even a hint of failure, he has offered distractions and denials until he has seemed to lose interest. Recently the Washington Post reported that the White House may be hoping people just get used to the illness and death.

"While thousands of Americans die alone, Donald touts stock market gains," Mary Trump writes. "As my father lay dying alone, Donald went to the movies. If he can in any way profit from your death, he'll facilitate it, and then he'll ignore the fact that you died. ... The fact is that Donald is fundamentally incapable of acknowledging the suffering of others. Telling the stories of those we've lost would bore him."

www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/opinions/mary-trump-book-dangerous-donald-danto
nio/index.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 9, 2020 7:38 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Do countries with female leaders truly fare better with Covid-19?

“What do countries with the best coronavirus responses have in common? Women leaders” Forbes heralded on April 13, about a month after the first lockdown orders hit the US. “Countries led by women have fared better against coronavirus. Why?” The Hill puzzled just five days later.

The idea that female world leaders were outperforming male ones was based on several high-profile anecdotes. By early June, New Zealand, led by 39-year-old prime minister Jacinda Ardern, seemed to have rid its shores of the virus. Taiwan’s president Tsai Ing-wen has been praised by others around the world for her strong response to the crisis, and for the low infection rate in her country. And in Germany, chancellor Angela Merkel’s Covid-19 response has won her high approval ratings.

But most of these reports don’t reference any data to support their narrative. A recently released study (pdf) finally tests the idea that women heads of state have excelled at handling the crisis. The research, conducted by two economists at UK universities, suggests this phenomenon is more than just anecdote.

Leading the Fight Against the Pandemic: Does Gender ‘Really’ Matter?
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3617953

Abstract

Since the start of the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, the relationship between national female leaders and their effectiveness in handling the COVID-crisis has received a lot of media attention. In this paper we scrutinise this association more systematically. We ask if there is a significant and systematic difference by gender of the national leader in the number of COVID-cases and deaths in the first quarter of the pandemic. We also examine differences in policy responses by male vs. female leaders as plausible explanations for the differences in outcomes. Using a constructed dataset for 194 countries, a variety of socio-demographic variables are used to match nearest neighbours. Our findings show that COVID-outcomes are systematically better in countries led by women and, to some extent, this may be explained by the proactive and coordinated policy responses adopted by them. We use insights from behavioural studies and leadership literature to speculate on the sources of these differences, as well as on their implications. Our hope is that this article will serve as a starting point to illuminate the discussion on the influence of national leaders in explaining the differences in country COVID-outcomes.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, July 9, 2020 11:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
The idea that female world leaders were outperforming male ones was based on ... anecdotes.



I've heard all I need to hear.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 9, 2020 5:03 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Update video:



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Thursday, July 9, 2020 5:14 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Fox News consistently reports lies and reports unverified information as fact. Their “coverage” of Covid19 has revealed just how low they are willing to go to remain in Trump’s good graces.



Assclownz.

Wut I dont get iz why, out uv the millionz uv gun toting ijits hoo woc Fox, nobody haz lost a family member due to bleeving the misinformation, woken up from their Fox indused stupor and gon there to shoot the plase up.

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Thursday, July 9, 2020 5:34 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Fox News consistently reports lies and reports unverified information as fact. Their “coverage” of Covid19 has revealed just how low they are willing to go to remain in Trump’s good graces.



Assclownz.

Wut I dont get iz why, out uv the millionz uv gun toting ijits hoo woc Fox, nobody haz lost a family member due to bleeving the misinformation, woken up from their Fox indused stupor and gon there to shoot the plase up.

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There're dying now. I see evidence they're waking up. Look at the polls JO.

T


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Thursday, July 9, 2020 5:51 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


MASK. UP.

WASH. YOUR. HANDS. AFTER. HANDLING. YOUR. MASK.

What's there to think about?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Thursday, July 9, 2020 9:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Fox News consistently reports lies and reports unverified information as fact. Their “coverage” of Covid19 has revealed just how low they are willing to go to remain in Trump’s good graces.



Assclownz.

Wut I dont get iz why, out uv the millionz uv gun toting ijits hoo woc Fox, nobody haz lost a family member due to bleeving the misinformation, woken up from their Fox indused stupor and gon there to shoot the plase up.

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http://www.7532020.com .



That's because the amount of people who have lost a family member is much, much lower than the Legacy Media is lying about.

Much lower.

Much, much, much lower.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 9, 2020 9:38 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


And if a person needs a pandemic around to wash their hands, Darwin should have probably taken them out a long time ago.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 10, 2020 6:34 AM

THG


Trump attacks his own CDC scientists over how to reopen schools safely

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-attacks-his-own-cdc-scientists
-over-how-to-reopen-schools-safely/ar-BB16ylNj?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, July 10, 2020 6:34 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Fox News consistently reports lies and reports unverified information as fact. Their “coverage” of Covid19 has revealed just how low they are willing to go to remain in Trump’s good graces.



Assclownz.

Wut I dont get iz why, out uv the millionz uv gun toting ijits hoo woc Fox, nobody haz lost a family member due to bleeving the misinformation, woken up from their Fox indused stupor and gon there to shoot the plase up.

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http://www.7532020.com .



That's because the amount of people who have lost a family member is much, much lower than the Legacy Media is lying about.

Much lower.

Much, much, much lower.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, July 10, 2020 6:38 AM

THG


Kazakhstan: Chinese officials warn of new 'unknown pneumonia' that is deadlier than coronavirus

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kazakhstan-chinese-officials-warn
-of-new-unknown-pneumonia-that-is-deadlier-than-coronavirus/ar-BB16yZ3C?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Friday, July 10, 2020 6:51 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Yikes!

I just rerote the fundrazr campane text and it touchez on just this possibility!

https://fundrazr.com/61fp20?ref=ab_f9FQj8

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Friday, July 10, 2020 8:19 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted:
For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!
7:39 AM · Jul 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281206354334625793

Trump wrote "For the 1/100th time" but what he meant was the 1,000th time. Somebody should ask Trump: "Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" Give him a minute to think before he answers. If his answer is anything other than "No" he is too stupid to be President.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 11, 2020 4:40 PM

BRENDA


The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.

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Saturday, July 11, 2020 5:03 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.



In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Saturday, July 11, 2020 11:46 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.



In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.



That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 1:18 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Except that's not what happened at all.

Ted only reads headlines. Don't believe anything Ted has to say about literally anything.

SPOILER ALERT: It was a very bad ruling on the ability to try somebody who is American Indian who murdered or raped another for murder or rape they committed in Eastern Oklahoma. It's not as if any of the 1.8 million residents in eastern Oklahoma who aren't Indian are going to have their property seized and given to natives. This isn't South Africa. Thank God.


Among those who will not be prosecuted and/or have their cases thrown out even if already found guilty in the past because of this ruling is a man who killed his girlfriends ex husband and cut off his balls, and another man who raped a 4 year old girl on the Creek reservation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:50 AM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Except that's not what happened at all.

Ted only reads headlines. Don't believe anything Ted has to say about literally anything.

SPOILER ALERT: It was a very bad ruling on the ability to try somebody who is American Indian who murdered or raped another for murder or rape they committed in Eastern Oklahoma. It's not as if any of the 1.8 million residents in eastern Oklahoma who aren't Indian are going to have their property seized and given to natives. This isn't South Africa. Thank God.


Among those who will not be prosecuted and/or have their cases thrown out even if already found guilty in the past because of this ruling is a man who killed his girlfriends ex husband and cut off his balls, and another man who raped a 4 year old girl on the Creek reservation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Can you link in the story Jack. I'm going to have to read this.

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 4:35 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.

Sadly, this is not a US Nunavut judicial moment. It's not as if the US government suddenly woke up and said - you know that land that we signed a treaty about, where we said it was yours forever but we took it anyway? That land really is yours.

That didn't happen.

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 6:59 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Back to COVID-19 an interesting demonstration -

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebd7M2SXsAA-IV5?format=jpg&name=360x36
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Sunday, July 12, 2020 7:01 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


And I thought this was funny!


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Sunday, July 12, 2020 7:52 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Walt Disney World’s Re-Opening Video Didn’t Go Over So Well

Neither the dystopian vibes of the promo nor the possible risks of visiting an amusement park during a pandemic were lost on the internet at large, and the video will now live on forever in a million parodies. Some people took advantage of the fact that you can dub anything you’d like over footage of someone wearing a mask, since their lips aren’t visible. This trick came in simple public service varieties like this one:

More at https://slate.com/culture/2020/07/walt-disney-world-reopens-florida-co
ronavirus-welcome-home-video-inspires-parodies.html




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 10:10 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.



In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.

T



That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.



It's been a mess Brenda. This country is supposed to be a work in progress. This is a step forward in a period that's been 3 steps backward.

T

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 10:15 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Walt Disney World’s Re-Opening Video Didn’t Go Over So Well

Neither the dystopian vibes of the promo nor the possible risks of visiting an amusement park during a pandemic were lost on the internet at large, and the video will now live on forever in a million parodies. Some people took advantage of the fact that you can dub anything you’d like over footage of someone wearing a mask, since their lips aren’t visible. This trick came in simple public service varieties like this one:

More at https://slate.com/culture/2020/07/walt-disney-world-reopens-florida-co
ronavirus-welcome-home-video-inspires-parodies.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Fingers crossed...


T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 11:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.



In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.

T



That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.



It's been a mess Brenda. This country is supposed to be a work in progress. This is a step forward in a period that's been 3 steps backward.

T


"The Supreme Court today kept the United States' sacred promise to the Muscogee (Creek) Nation of a protected reservation," the tribe said in a statement.

It is NOT a “sacred promise”. There is nothing sacred. By next week, Congress could rescind the promise, assuming the Democrats in the House decide to join with Republicans in the Senate and Trump to rescind. The court's decision hinged on the question of whether the Creek reservation continued to exist after Oklahoma became a state.

"Today we are asked whether the land these treaties promised remains an Indian reservation for purposes of federal criminal law. Because Congress has not said otherwise, we hold the government to its word," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.

More at www.npr.org/2020/07/09/889562040/supreme-court-rules-that-about-half-o
f-oklahoma-is-indian-land


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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