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Sunday, July 12, 2020 11:10 AM

THG


Think pleasant thoughts second. Happiness can not prevail in negativity.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 11:11 AM

THG


Fauci is sidelined by the White House as he steps up blunt talk on pandemic

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/fauci-is-sidelined-by-the-white-h
ouse-as-he-steps-up-blunt-talk-on-pandemic/ar-BB16CJoa?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 11:18 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Think pleasant thoughts second. Happiness can not prevail in negativity.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

The Supreme Court is not about happiness or pleasant thinking or negativity. The decision made it crystal clear, at least to me, that Congress botched the drafting of the law:
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(b) Congress has since broken more than a few promises to the Tribe. Nevertheless, the Creek Reservation persists today. Pp. 6-28.

(1) Once a federal reservation is established, only Congress can diminish or disestablish it. Doing so requires a clear expression of congressional intent. Pp. 6-8.

(2) Oklahoma claims that Congress ended the Creek Reservation during the so-called “allotment era”—a period when Congress sought to pressure many tribes to abandon their communal lifestyles and parcel their lands into smaller lots owned by individual tribal members. Missing from the allotment-era agreement with the Creek, see 31 Stat. 862-864, however, is any statute evincing anything like the “present and total surrender of all tribal interests” in the affected lands. And this Court has already rejected the argument that allotments automatically ended reservations. Pp. 8-13.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-9526_9okb.pdf

If Congress wants Oklahoma criminal law to apply to everyone in Oklahoma, including the parts of Oklahoma in the Creek Reservation, then Congress needed to state that. But Congress failed to make it law, therefore Federal criminal law, not Oklahoma criminal law, will apply. As the Supreme Court helpfully pointed out to those idiots in Congress:
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Congress remains free to supplement its statutory directions about the lands in question at any time. Pp. 36-42.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 11:42 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Except that's not what happened at all.

Ted only reads headlines. Don't believe anything Ted has to say about literally anything.

SPOILER ALERT: It was a very bad ruling on the ability to try somebody who is American Indian who murdered or raped another for murder or rape they committed in Eastern Oklahoma. It's not as if any of the 1.8 million residents in eastern Oklahoma who aren't Indian are going to have their property seized and given to natives. This isn't South Africa. Thank God.


Among those who will not be prosecuted and/or have their cases thrown out even if already found guilty in the past because of this ruling is a man who killed his girlfriends ex husband and cut off his balls, and another man who raped a 4 year old girl on the Creek reservation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Can you link in the story Jack. I'm going to have to read this.




Yes. I'm trying to be extremely careful when giving any sources on this one though. Because, like everything else in 2020, almost nobody wants to report facts on either side and everything is opinion based.

Although it doesn't go into specific gory case detail of crimes, this is probably the most factual account I've found of the ruling overall:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scotus-rules-much-eastern-ok
lahoma-native-reservation-180975289
/

In fact. I've learned something too by trying to find as politically neutral an account on the issue that I could when posting a link to you as well. The two Native Indian men I mentioned aren't necessisarily getting away with rape of a child and murder and mutilation. They will be re-tried in Federal court rather than state court.

And even if for some reason those crimes were to be put on trial and handled by Indian reservations, I can't imagine that there would be any reason why they wouldn't be punished harshly for what they did.


The most important bits of the article, as always, being at the bottom I will quote here:

Quote:

Kevin Gover, director of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of the American Indian, acting under secretary for museum and culture, and a citizen of the Pawnee Tribe of Oklahoma, tells Smithsonian magazine that the court’s decision is a “welcome” one because it upholds the principle that Native American treaties should be honored unless Congress explicitly revokes them. Still, he preaches caution in interpreting the ruling, pointing out that it centers on jurisdiction, not land ownership.

“The headlines are wrong,” says Gover in an emailed statement. “The Court did not give eastern Oklahoma back to the Tribes. Nobody will lose their land or their home. The decision simply means that Indians in that part of the state are subject only to the criminal jurisdiction of the Tribes and the United States, as is true on Indian reservations in many other states.”

Jimcy McGirt, a member of the Seminole Nation who in a state trial was convicted of sex crimes against a child, brought the case at the center of the ruling to the Supreme Court. Because the crime occurred on tribal land, McGirt argued that he should be re-tried in a federal court.

Per the Post, both McGirt and Patrick Murphy, a member of the Creek Nation convicted of murder in 1999 and the subject of a related case called Sharp v. Murphy, will now receive new federal hearings.

Jonodev Chaudhuri, a tribal ambassador for the Creek Nation, tells Kolby KickingWoman of Indian Country Today that the ruling is a huge win for the tribe. “Many folks are in tears,” he says. “Despite a history of many broken promises, as is true with many tribal nations, the citizens feel uplifted that for once the United States is being held to its promises.”

Summarizing the ruling’s overall significance for Vox, Ian Millhiser concludes, “The primary impact of McGirt is that Oklahoma loses much of its power to enforce certain laws against members of Native American tribes within the borders of tribal lands. But the decision will have far less impact on non-Native Americans.”




As you can clearly see though... This ruling has nothing at all to do with land ownership, or anything other than how the jurisdiction works when prosecuting criminal cases. Which is something that you couldn't be blamed for believing it was if all you read was a headline of an article by CNN or Vox.

If they actually did give land back to Natives here, it would be the first step in doing that all over the country until everybody's homes and land were confiscated by the government and redistributed as they see fit.

The anarchists, Bernie Bros, Antifa and AOC devotees would love that. But that's never going to happen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:25 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by Brenda:

The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.



In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.

T



That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.



It's been a mess Brenda. This country is supposed to be a work in progress. This is a step forward in a period that's been 3 steps backward.

T


"The Supreme Court today kept the United States' sacred promise to the Muscogee (Creek) Nation of a protected reservation," the tribe said in a statement.

It is NOT a “sacred promise”. There is nothing sacred. By next week, Congress could rescind the promise, assuming the Democrats in the House decide to join with Republicans in the Senate and Trump to rescind. The court's decision hinged on the question of whether the Creek reservation continued to exist after Oklahoma became a state.

"Today we are asked whether the land these treaties promised remains an Indian reservation for purposes of federal criminal law. Because Congress has not said otherwise, we hold the government to its word," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.

More at www.npr.org/2020/07/09/889562040/supreme-court-rules-that-about-half-o
f-oklahoma-is-indian-land


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



White man speak with forked tongue. Your government is still very capable of breaking treaties as I said to Kiki basically.

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:28 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.

Sadly, this is not a US Nunavut judicial moment. It's not as if the US government suddenly woke up and said - you know that land that we signed a treaty about, where we said it was yours forever but we took it anyway? That land really is yours.

That didn't happen.



I know that. Your government has whittled away at many a reservation down there over the years.

Still breaking treaties then remaking them to suit your use.

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:32 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.



In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.

T



That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.



It's been a mess Brenda. This country is supposed to be a work in progress. This is a step forward in a period that's been 3 steps backward.

T



In regard to relations with Native Americans don't make me laugh THG.

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 3:41 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Except that's not what happened at all.

Ted only reads headlines. Don't believe anything Ted has to say about literally anything.

SPOILER ALERT: It was a very bad ruling on the ability to try somebody who is American Indian who murdered or raped another for murder or rape they committed in Eastern Oklahoma. It's not as if any of the 1.8 million residents in eastern Oklahoma who aren't Indian are going to have their property seized and given to natives. This isn't South Africa. Thank God.


Among those who will not be prosecuted and/or have their cases thrown out even if already found guilty in the past because of this ruling is a man who killed his girlfriends ex husband and cut off his balls, and another man who raped a 4 year old girl on the Creek reservation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Can you link in the story Jack. I'm going to have to read this.




Yes. I'm trying to be extremely careful when giving any sources on this one though. Because, like everything else in 2020, almost nobody wants to report facts on either side and everything is opinion based.

Although it doesn't go into specific gory case detail of crimes, this is probably the most factual account I've found of the ruling overall:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scotus-rules-much-eastern-ok
lahoma-native-reservation-180975289
/

In fact. I've learned something too by trying to find as politically neutral an account on the issue that I could when posting a link to you as well. The two Native Indian men I mentioned aren't necessisarily getting away with rape of a child and murder and mutilation. They will be re-tried in Federal court rather than state court.

And even if for some reason those crimes were to be put on trial and handled by Indian reservations, I can't imagine that there would be any reason why they wouldn't be punished harshly for what they did.


The most important bits of the article, as always, being at the bottom I will quote here:

Quote:

Kevin Gover, director of the Smithsonian’s National Museum of the American Indian, acting under secretary for museum and culture, and a citizen of the Pawnee Tribe of Oklahoma, tells Smithsonian magazine that the court’s decision is a “welcome” one because it upholds the principle that Native American treaties should be honored unless Congress explicitly revokes them. Still, he preaches caution in interpreting the ruling, pointing out that it centers on jurisdiction, not land ownership.

“The headlines are wrong,” says Gover in an emailed statement. “The Court did not give eastern Oklahoma back to the Tribes. Nobody will lose their land or their home. The decision simply means that Indians in that part of the state are subject only to the criminal jurisdiction of the Tribes and the United States, as is true on Indian reservations in many other states.”

Jimcy McGirt, a member of the Seminole Nation who in a state trial was convicted of sex crimes against a child, brought the case at the center of the ruling to the Supreme Court. Because the crime occurred on tribal land, McGirt argued that he should be re-tried in a federal court.

Per the Post, both McGirt and Patrick Murphy, a member of the Creek Nation convicted of murder in 1999 and the subject of a related case called Sharp v. Murphy, will now receive new federal hearings.

Jonodev Chaudhuri, a tribal ambassador for the Creek Nation, tells Kolby KickingWoman of Indian Country Today that the ruling is a huge win for the tribe. “Many folks are in tears,” he says. “Despite a history of many broken promises, as is true with many tribal nations, the citizens feel uplifted that for once the United States is being held to its promises.”

Summarizing the ruling’s overall significance for Vox, Ian Millhiser concludes, “The primary impact of McGirt is that Oklahoma loses much of its power to enforce certain laws against members of Native American tribes within the borders of tribal lands. But the decision will have far less impact on non-Native Americans.”




As you can clearly see though... This ruling has nothing at all to do with land ownership, or anything other than how the jurisdiction works when prosecuting criminal cases. Which is something that you couldn't be blamed for believing it was if all you read was a headline of an article by CNN or Vox.

If they actually did give land back to Natives here, it would be the first step in doing that all over the country until everybody's homes and land were confiscated by the government and redistributed as they see fit.

The anarchists, Bernie Bros, Antifa and AOC devotees would love that. But that's never going to happen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



I do see that from what you posted. Yes, even if he was tried in a reservation court he would receive a harsh punishment.

I learned something as well. When I think of the Trail of Tears, I always think of the Cherokee. But I didn't know that the US government also moved the Seminole from Florida as well.

Which was the whole point of Oklahoma in the beginning. It was originally set up to be an Indian state. A good number of tribes were meant to be moved there to contain us. But when something useful was found or during the expansion phase that idea was dropped and the Cherokee were marched back to their original homeland. Some stayed in Oklahoma and obviously some of their other tribes did as well.

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 6:01 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.



In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.

T



That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.



It's been a mess Brenda. This country is supposed to be a work in progress. This is a step forward in a period that's been 3 steps backward.

T


"The Supreme Court today kept the United States' sacred promise to the Muscogee (Creek) Nation of a protected reservation," the tribe said in a statement.

It is NOT a “sacred promise”. There is nothing sacred. By next week, Congress could rescind the promise, assuming the Democrats in the House decide to join with Republicans in the Senate and Trump to rescind. The court's decision hinged on the question of whether the Creek reservation continued to exist after Oklahoma became a state.

"Today we are asked whether the land these treaties promised remains an Indian reservation for purposes of federal criminal law. Because Congress has not said otherwise, we hold the government to its word," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.

More at www.npr.org/2020/07/09/889562040/supreme-court-rules-that-about-half-o
f-oklahoma-is-indian-land


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



White man speak with forked tongue. Your government is still very capable of breaking treaties as I said to Kiki basically.



Every culture lies Brenda. Don't play the victim to the past. When speaking of the human race history shows no culture is any better than the next.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Sunday, July 12, 2020 7:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


The Canadian courts did the most remarkable thing in recent history and ruled - in response to a lawsuit - that

Yanno, that treaty that Canada broke? You're right. We owe the First Nations something for our bad faith.

And created Nunavut. Check out a map sometime to see what that means.

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Monday, July 13, 2020 12:00 AM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.



In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.

T



That is a win because the US government is well known for taking back land that was granted to the tribes by treaty.



It's been a mess Brenda. This country is supposed to be a work in progress. This is a step forward in a period that's been 3 steps backward.

T


"The Supreme Court today kept the United States' sacred promise to the Muscogee (Creek) Nation of a protected reservation," the tribe said in a statement.

It is NOT a “sacred promise”. There is nothing sacred. By next week, Congress could rescind the promise, assuming the Democrats in the House decide to join with Republicans in the Senate and Trump to rescind. The court's decision hinged on the question of whether the Creek reservation continued to exist after Oklahoma became a state.

"Today we are asked whether the land these treaties promised remains an Indian reservation for purposes of federal criminal law. Because Congress has not said otherwise, we hold the government to its word," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.

More at www.npr.org/2020/07/09/889562040/supreme-court-rules-that-about-half-o
f-oklahoma-is-indian-land


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



White man speak with forked tongue. Your government is still very capable of breaking treaties as I said to Kiki basically.



Every culture lies Brenda. Don't play the victim to the past. When speaking of the human race history shows no culture is any better than the next.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.



I know that too THG. I'm not which is why I used that phrase. It still holds meaning today.

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Monday, July 13, 2020 8:17 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


How did the rezervation stuff get mixed in here?

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Monday, July 13, 2020 11:42 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
How did the rezervation stuff get mixed in here?

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All stupidity can usually be traced back to Ted. That is the case here.



I figure I should add to that statement by saying that I'm not referring to the subject matter, but to the fact that it's in this thread.

I believe it's safe to speak for everyone when I say the only reason that we didn't call him out on his stupidity like usual and discussed it here was out of respect for Brenda.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 13, 2020 12:24 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


"Hey hey hey. Dont be mean, peepl. You dont haf to be mean."

Bak on topic:




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Monday, July 13, 2020 1:34 PM

BRENDA


Right now I think we should be happy for the Navajo who finally have this virus under control on their reserves.

The entire state of Arizona could learn a thing or two from them.

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Monday, July 13, 2020 3:18 PM

THG


JO, the sound is off. Can't hear your video but I guess that's intentional. Not to worry though, I still watched it. Bravo...

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 13, 2020 3:49 PM

THG


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.


Trump Was Wrong on Reopening Economy and Schools


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Monday, July 13, 2020 4:35 PM

THG


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.



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Monday, July 13, 2020 5:44 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
And I thought this was funny!



I like that.
When considering aerosol, I recall learning that every breath that a human takes this year contains at least one molecule of the last dying breath of Julius Caesar.

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Monday, July 13, 2020 5:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted:
For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!
7:39 AM · Jul 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281206354334625793

Trump wrote "For the 1/100th time" but what he meant was the 1,000th time. Somebody should ask Trump: "Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" Give him a minute to think before he answers. If his answer is anything other than "No" he is too stupid to be President.

Do you have to try really, really, really hard to make yourself this stupid?

"Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" would be an adequate analogy if Trump had said "Would there be half as many Covid Deaths if there were half as many Covid tests available?"
For those who can read (which obviously excludes you), this is not a new concept because 6ix has been repeating this for months and months now.
But Trump did not say this.

For Trump saying "Would there be half as many confirmed Covid cases if there were half as many Covid tests available?" then the adequate analogy would be "Would there be half as many known pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?"

You are such an ass. As well as dumbass.

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Monday, July 13, 2020 7:42 PM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
JO, the sound is off. Can't hear your video but I guess that's intentional. Not to worry though, I still watched it. Bravo...



Not intentional. Unfortunately, the Apeman action cam haz an intermitant sound problem.

Had fun with it with the title and video description.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 7:09 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Virus explodes inisde Brazil and India now?



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-global/who-sound
s-alarm-as-coronavirus-cases-rise-by-one-million-in-five-days-idUSKCN24E1US

WHO sounds alarm as coronavirus cases rise by one million in five days

Two months after infection, COVID-19 symptoms persist | Almost 90 percent still have at least one symptom long after the virus has gone.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/two-months-after-infection-cov
id-19-symptoms-persist
/

https://www.sciencealert.com/smoking-may-explain-why-1-in-3-young-adul
ts-are-at-risk-of-severe-coronavirus

One in Three Young Adults at Risk of Severe Coronavirus Infections, Study Finds

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 7:46 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted:
For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!
7:39 AM · Jul 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281206354334625793

Trump wrote "For the 1/100th time" but what he meant was the 1,000th time. Somebody should ask Trump: "Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" Give him a minute to think before he answers. If his answer is anything other than "No" he is too stupid to be President.

Do you have to try really, really, really hard to make yourself this stupid?

"Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" would be an adequate analogy if Trump had said "Would there be half as many Covid Deaths if there were half as many Covid tests available?"
For those who can read (which obviously excludes you), this is not a new concept because 6ix has been repeating this for months and months now.
But Trump did not say this.

For Trump saying "Would there be half as many confirmed Covid cases if there were half as many Covid tests available?" then the adequate analogy would be "Would there be half as many known pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?"

You are such an ass. As well as dumbass.

Covid tests are needed to decide who should be in quarantine, but Trump doesn't like massive Covid-19 testing because it shows that the pandemic is growing faster and faster, which makes his reelection less and less likely. Is there a better explanation for why Trump tweeted this?

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
This is why we have so many “cases” for the media to constantly refer to!
Under @realDonaldTrump’s leadership, over 40 MILLION coronavirus tests have been conducted with nearly 730,000 tests yesterday alone.
11:10 PM · Jul 13, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1282890085483061248

Trump does not want the media to know that the number of cases is growing faster and faster. With fewer tests, the media would know less and Trump could smoothly be reelected. You should look at a chart of the number of cases, which can be found here:
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-states?country=G
BR~USA


The chart makes Trump look bad. If there was less testing, the chart couldn't be drawn, which would be advantageous for Trump's campaign.


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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump tweeted:
For the 1/100th time, the reason we show so many Cases, compared to other countries that haven’t done nearly as well as we have, is that our TESTING is much bigger and better. We have tested 40,000,000 people. If we did 20,000,000 instead, Cases would be half, etc. NOT REPORTED!
7:39 AM · Jul 9, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1281206354334625793

Trump wrote "For the 1/100th time" but what he meant was the 1,000th time. Somebody should ask Trump: "Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" Give him a minute to think before he answers. If his answer is anything other than "No" he is too stupid to be President.

Do you have to try really, really, really hard to make yourself this stupid?

"Would there be half as many pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?" would be an adequate analogy if Trump had said "Would there be half as many Covid Deaths if there were half as many Covid tests available?"
For those who can read (which obviously excludes you), this is not a new concept because 6ix has been repeating this for months and months now.
But Trump did not say this.

For Trump saying "Would there be half as many confirmed Covid cases if there were half as many Covid tests available?" then the adequate analogy would be "Would there be half as many known pregnancies if there were half as many pregnancy tests available?"

You are such an ass. As well as dumbass.




Yup. Second is a dumbass.

And yup... I have been saying that about the testing for months and months now.

Even Sigs is pretending like I haven't been right about this virus since the beginning.

She's conflating my trolling of Kiki with the legit stuff I had been saying since the beginning and the predictions I was making. She's also ignoring the fact that Kiki has ALWAYS attacked me first, and whenever I tried to be nice to her and go back to how we used to get along it only took a day or two before she'd attack me again.



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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:54 AM

THG


Former CDC chiefs rebuke Trump for ‘undermining’ agency’s guidelines

By Quint Forgey 1 hr ago

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POLITICO logoFormer CDC chiefs rebuke Trump for ‘undermining’ agency’s guidelines

Four former heads of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Tuesday implicitly rebuked President Donald Trump, arguing the “extraordinary” efforts by him and other administration officials to diminish the public health agency’s guidance was contributing to a resurgence of coronavirus cases across the United States.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/former-cdc-chiefs-rebuke-trump-for-u
ndermining-agency-s-guidelines/ar-BB16ICLE?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 9:58 AM

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Only there isn't much of a resurgence, is there?

Remember those predictions that 2 to 4 million people were going to die in the US?

Even with the extremely fluffed numbers, we're not anywhere near those, are we?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:00 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Virus explodes inisde Brazil and India now?



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-global/who-sound
s-alarm-as-coronavirus-cases-rise-by-one-million-in-five-days-idUSKCN24E1US

WHO sounds alarm as coronavirus cases rise by one million in five days

Two months after infection, COVID-19 symptoms persist | Almost 90 percent still have at least one symptom long after the virus has gone.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/two-months-after-infection-cov
id-19-symptoms-persist
/

https://www.sciencealert.com/smoking-may-explain-why-1-in-3-young-adul
ts-are-at-risk-of-severe-coronavirus

One in Three Young Adults at Risk of Severe Coronavirus Infections, Study Finds

Look at the countries that are exploding with Covid.
What do they have in common?
Fascist, authoritarian leaders who ignore science and couldn't care less about their own people.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Go back to your hole, deep in Second's demented psyche, faggot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:03 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Go back to your hole, deep in Second's demented psyche, faggot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Still resorts to name calling when he gets destroyed and exposed as the little Nazi he is. XD

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Dude. Everybody is a Nazi to you. You've abused that word so much it is meaningless in 2020.

You haven't destroyed shit except for whatever trashcans you've been setting on fire that were keeping you from posting here.

Nobody cares.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:29 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude. Everybody is a Nazi to you. You've abused that word so much it is meaningless in 2020.

You haven't destroyed shit except for whatever trashcans you've been setting on fire that were keeping you from posting here.

Nobody cares.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Nope. The vast majority of people aren't Nazis at all. In fact, most people hate Nazis, and for good reason.

Just people like you who openly hate others, can't think critically, and use all the code words like "normies" and "cuck."

You give yourself away, little Nazi boy. I knew what you were from the git go.

THG's sig line tells the whole story.


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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 3:13 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
How did the rezervation stuff get mixed in here?

All stupidity can usually be traced back to Ted. That is the case here.


I figure I should add to that statement by saying that I'm not referring to the subject matter, but to the fact that it's in this thread.

I believe it's safe to speak for everyone when I say the only reason that we didn't call him out on his stupidity like usual and discussed it here was out of respect for Brenda.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

All true.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 3:24 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
How did the rezervation stuff get mixed in here?

----------------------------
DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early

http://www.7532020.com .



Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:

The Navajo seem to have Covid-19 under control now on their reserves. Last time I looked at their web page they had had 38 new cases.




In a decision being hailed as a win for tribal sovereignty, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large portion of eastern Oklahoma remains a reservation.

T



That's how JO. I knew this news would be appreciated by Brenda so I threw it into a response to one of her posts.

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 3:28 PM

THG


Three U.S. states account for about one-fifth of the world's new coronavirus cases

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/three-u-s-states-account-for-abou
t-one-fifth-of-the-world-s-new-coronavirus-cases/ar-BB16JauZ?ocid=msedgntp


T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 4:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude. Everybody is a Nazi to you. You've abused that word so much it is meaningless in 2020.

You haven't destroyed shit except for whatever trashcans you've been setting on fire that were keeping you from posting here.

Nobody cares.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Nope. The vast majority of people aren't Nazis at all. In fact, most people hate Nazis, and for good reason.

Just people like you who openly hate others, can't think critically, and use all the code words like "normies" and "cuck."

You give yourself away, little Nazi boy. I knew what you were from the git go.

THG's sig line tells the whole story.




lol

There are no Nazis, you fucking retard.

Isn't there still a trashcan in your city that still hasn't been set on fire by you masked terrorists?

You better get on that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 6:03 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude. Everybody is a Nazi to you. You've abused that word so much it is meaningless in 2020.

You haven't destroyed shit except for whatever trashcans you've been setting on fire that were keeping you from posting here.

Nobody cares.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Nope. The vast majority of people aren't Nazis at all. In fact, most people hate Nazis, and for good reason.

Just people like you who openly hate others, can't think critically, and use all the code words like "normies" and "cuck."

You give yourself away, little Nazi boy. I knew what you were from the git go.

THG's sig line tells the whole story.




lol

There are no Nazis, you fucking retard.

Isn't there still a trashcan in your city that still hasn't been set on fire by you masked terrorists?

You better get on that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Like THG said, stupid people don't realize they're stupid.

Of course there are Nazis, dipshit. They're the #1 terrorists in the country, and you love and fellate them with your idiocy.

It takes a very low IQ to be a Nazi. You qualify.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 6:34 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Covid-19 has exposed the world’s greatest democracies, Britain and the US, as victims of prolonged self-harm; it has also demonstrated that countries with strong state capacity have been far more successful at stemming the virus’s spread and look better equipped to cope with the social and economic fallout.

South Korea rolled out testing at ‘walk-in’ booths all over the country, then used credit card records and location data from mobile phones to trace the movements of infected people – a tactic Britain has failed to master after months of effort. Other East Asian countries such as Taiwan and Singapore are also faring much better. Vietnam swiftly routed the virus. China managed to curb its spread and has since dispatched medics and medical supplies around the world.

Anglo-America’s dingy realities – deindustrialisation, low-wage work, underemployment, hyper-incarceration and enfeebled or exclusionary health systems – have long been evident. Nevertheless, the moral, political and material squalor of two of the wealthiest and most powerful societies in history still comes as a shock to some. In a widely circulated essay in the Atlantic, George Packer claimed that ‘every morning in the endless month of March, Americans woke up to find themselves citizens of a failed state.’ In fact, the state has been AWOL for decades, and the market has been entrusted with the tasks most societies reserve almost exclusively for government: healthcare, pensions, low-income housing, education, social services and incarceration.

More at "Flailing States"
www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n14/pankaj-mishra/flailing-states

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 7:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude. Everybody is a Nazi to you. You've abused that word so much it is meaningless in 2020.

You haven't destroyed shit except for whatever trashcans you've been setting on fire that were keeping you from posting here.

Nobody cares.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Nope. The vast majority of people aren't Nazis at all. In fact, most people hate Nazis, and for good reason.

Just people like you who openly hate others, can't think critically, and use all the code words like "normies" and "cuck."

You give yourself away, little Nazi boy. I knew what you were from the git go.

THG's sig line tells the whole story.




lol

There are no Nazis, you fucking retard.

Isn't there still a trashcan in your city that still hasn't been set on fire by you masked terrorists?

You better get on that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Like THG said, stupid people don't realize they're stupid.

Of course there are Nazis, dipshit. They're the #1 terrorists in the country, and you love and fellate them with your idiocy.

It takes a very low IQ to be a Nazi. You qualify.




You don't know what a Nazi is, fucktard.

I've smoked away more IQ points than you were born with.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 7:28 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Covid-19 has exposed the world’s greatest democracies, Britain and the US, as victims of prolonged self-harm; it has also demonstrated that countries with strong state capacity have been far more successful at stemming the virus’s spread and look better equipped to cope with the social and economic fallout.

South Korea rolled out testing at ‘walk-in’ booths all over the country, then used credit card records and location data from mobile phones to trace the movements of infected people – a tactic Britain has failed to master after months of effort. Other East Asian countries such as Taiwan and Singapore are also faring much better. Vietnam swiftly routed the virus. China managed to curb its spread and has since dispatched medics and medical supplies around the world.

Anglo-America’s dingy realities – deindustrialisation, low-wage work, underemployment, hyper-incarceration and enfeebled or exclusionary health systems – have long been evident. Nevertheless, the moral, political and material squalor of two of the wealthiest and most powerful societies in history still comes as a shock to some. In a widely circulated essay in the Atlantic, George Packer claimed that ‘every morning in the endless month of March, Americans woke up to find themselves citizens of a failed state.’ In fact, the state has been AWOL for decades, and the market has been entrusted with the tasks most societies reserve almost exclusively for government: healthcare, pensions, low-income housing, education, social services and incarceration.

More at "Flailing States"
www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n14/pankaj-mishra/flailing-states

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




You'd love if any of that were true, wouldn't you Second? Marxist, fascist, Legacy Media bot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:00 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You'd love if any of that were true, wouldn't you Second? Marxist, fascist, Legacy Media bot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

How many times have you repeated your nervous twitch, 6ix? The twitchy phrases Trump repeats are LAW & ORDER! and The Silent Majority will reign! What a dopey guy.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1282892191082385408
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1282669015794618373

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 8:49 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted
I've smoked away more IQ points than you were born with.

In reality you've probably drunk away more IQ points than you've smoked away. In any case, I wouldn't brag about it if I were you, because killing your IQ by drinking and smoking, and then bragging about it, both seem kinda dumb.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted
I've smoked away more IQ points than you were born with.

In reality you've probably drunk away more IQ points than you've smoked away. In any case, I wouldn't brag about it if I were you, because killing your IQ by drinking and smoking, and then bragging about it, both seem kinda dumb.



The point being, I had plenty to spare.

I still have zero problems matching wits with self-proclaimed geniuses.

Namely you.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You'd love if any of that were true, wouldn't you Second? Marxist, fascist, Legacy Media bot.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

How many times have you repeated your nervous twitch, 6ix? The twitchy phrases Trump repeats are LAW & ORDER! and The Silent Majority will reign! What a dopey guy.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1282892191082385408
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1282669015794618373

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly





Don't you dare ask me about repetition.

How many times are you going to brag (see: lie) about being rich?

How many times are you going to say you won't be voting for Trump but lie that you'll be happy because of the huge tax breaks you're lying about?

How many times will you quote somebody and put in a 10 paragraph reply that has nothing to do with the quote?

How many times will you pass off a story as your own and not use quote brackets?

How many times will you go an entire days worth of posts without a single one not having the word Trump in it?

How many times will you bring up Trump's taxes that the IRS already knows?


I could go on, for a long time, but I'm bored with you tonight.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted

The point being, I had plenty to spare.

I still have zero problems matching wits with self-proclaimed geniuses.

Namely you.



Considering all you do is make completely unsupported claims, troll, and lie, it doesn't seem like you have enough brains to do more than that.

You need to up your game if you want people to think of you as anything other than a common idiot.


I apologize to everyone for starting a thread to keep up with facts about SARS-COV-2, and driving JACK over the edge with too much reality.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:22 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Your behavior has been gross since you bought into The Coomph panic.

Don't blame your Karenisms on me.

They deserve nothing more than my trolling.

And like with just about anything else, time will prove me right about this one too.


I'm a patient man.


In the mean time, go ahead and insult me if it makes you feel better. It's fun knowing that everyone who does happens to wear a mask for one reason or the other.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.





I apologize to everyone for starting a thread to keep up with facts about SARS-COV-2, and driving JACK over the edge with too much reality.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You apologize for your own shitty behavior, Karen, and leave the choice of whether or not to apologize for any of my own up to me.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:43 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




I apologize to everyone for starting a thread to keep up with facts about SARS-COV-2, and driving JACK over the edge with too much reality.

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Tuesday, July 14, 2020 11:31 PM

BRENDA


Border closure between Canada and the US has been extended AGAIN. This time to Aug. 21st.

Washington State just logged another day of over 500 cases of Covid-19.

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Wednesday, July 15, 2020 12:10 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Meanwhile, Trudeau just let's those Muslims in as fast as Soros can ship them.

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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